Everything Wrong With Escape Room: Tournament Of Champions in 23 Minutes Or Less

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  • Опубликовано: 29 дек 2021
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    The first Escape Room was kind of fun. Escape Room: Tournament of Champions veers hard into bonkers territory. It's got sins, y'all.
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  • @CinemaSins
    @CinemaSins  2 года назад +182

    Outtakes are here: ruclips.net/video/HCkZD3_EEHQ/видео.html

  • @vanillio69
    @vanillio69 2 года назад +730

    Missed Sin: If Ben survived drowning in the beach room, what happened to Nathan? Did Nathan float down to whatever room Ben ended up in and MINOS was all like " Fuck, wrong guy "

  • @XX-lr2iu
    @XX-lr2iu 2 года назад +330

    I asked the NYC subway authority if I could borrow one of their trains to use as an elaborate escape room game complete with dozens of death traps but they said no

    • @tobiasuretheworld1434
      @tobiasuretheworld1434 2 года назад +1

      Saidly no video prove xD

    • @coolboss999
      @coolboss999 Год назад +3

      Yeah you have to get permission from the NYC MTA to use of their trains and stuff in movies. It's a bit crazy but hey

    • @DonoZeek
      @DonoZeek Год назад +1

      Because you're not rich or powerful.

  • @niagaskin1054
    @niagaskin1054 2 года назад +650

    Imagine my surprise and confusion watching this video to find out the extended cut isn’t even extended it’s a completely new plot/ movie about halfway through! I had to go watch the actual version, I wasn’t even aware of the Amanda plot 😭 I liked the extended cut much better though

    • @saraha1514
      @saraha1514 2 года назад +1

      where did you find the original

    • @wolfezekiel
      @wolfezekiel 2 года назад +2

      where did you find the original cut

    • @blackhalo7026
      @blackhalo7026 2 года назад +30

      I wasn't even aware there were different versions of this movie so I was super confused when I started watching this video - what the hell?!

    • @militantproduct
      @militantproduct 2 года назад +32

      I was SOOO confused a few seconds into this video. Like who the heck is the therapist...and what scene was Amanda in!? lol. I feel like i saw the better version based on the recap i saw here.

    • @TheBlackDorothyZbornak
      @TheBlackDorothyZbornak 2 года назад +1

      Ditto, I'd never seen this version

  • @Nightlark100
    @Nightlark100 2 года назад +984

    Momentary confusion when this one has a completely different beginning and ending to the version I saw

    • @lyricjones1554
      @lyricjones1554 2 года назад +131

      Yeah it doesn't help that there are two very different versions.

    • @JC_Cali
      @JC_Cali 2 года назад +29

      @@lyricjones1554 I felt the same way as @nightlark100 but @Lyric Jones I actually think it's pretty cool how there's 2 versions. Testament to ingenuity and freshness and ability, cuz last movie I recall releasing multiple versions of Clue.

    • @Bramblestar9339
      @Bramblestar9339 2 года назад +4

      @@JC_Cali and The Turning

    • @dramamole
      @dramamole 2 года назад +17

      @@Bramblestar9339 The Turning has multiple endings?!
      Wait let me rephrase... The Turning has an ending?!

    • @EmiPellegrinoMusic
      @EmiPellegrinoMusic 2 года назад +45

      I was SO CONFUSED ! Why is it called extended cut when it should just be called version 1 or 2 ?!?!

  • @jdzspace33
    @jdzspace33 2 года назад +756

    What upsets me most about this is that I watched the extended version with a completely different ending, so now I need to watch this movie AGAIN.thanks a ton CS

    • @jrb9191
      @jrb9191 2 года назад +61

      I loved it. The first 15 minutes are totally different too. I was shocked . Usually it is like an extra sentence here and there

    • @knightmare5097
      @knightmare5097 2 года назад

      Leave

    • @lil.beanie0395
      @lil.beanie0395 2 года назад +6

      where can you find the extended version? I'm now intruiged and wanting to watch it

    • @jrb9191
      @jrb9191 2 года назад +12

      @@lil.beanie0395 red box blue ray. I watched it at my moms and thought I had a stroke. The first 15 min I was confused af

    • @skillfulstar
      @skillfulstar 2 года назад +19

      Same I thought that was the main movie so the first 15 mins of this video I was like wtf is going on

  • @hvpice
    @hvpice 2 года назад +843

    I just think this movie fell into a common sequel trap. “Hey the first movie did pretty well, let’s just go ahead and make another one and take things to absolute ridiculous levels to the point where the audience can no longer buy into the concepts that made the first movie enjoyable for the sake of money.”

    • @NoobMaster-rg5ho
      @NoobMaster-rg5ho 2 года назад +19

      sounds like the matrix resurrection

    • @cudak888
      @cudak888 2 года назад +13

      *John Wick franchise has entered the chat*

    • @hvpice
      @hvpice 2 года назад +12

      @@cudak888 a rare exception

    • @Ancano
      @Ancano 2 года назад +14

      Fast and Furious wants to know where you live.

    • @Alejandro-dk2gk
      @Alejandro-dk2gk 2 года назад +23

      First movie was dumb as hell as well

  • @lisanx5388
    @lisanx5388 2 года назад +1893

    The extended cut, in my opinion, is superior. It's a completely different film, but it makes more sense. It's such a shame they changed it.

    • @audreysfunny
      @audreysfunny 2 года назад +170

      Agreed. It makes much more sense than having Amanda return for no particular reason (and for having minimal clues in the first movie).

    • @kaseyrolow
      @kaseyrolow 2 года назад +34

      What are the differences plot wise? Just curious

    • @jedobson00
      @jedobson00 2 года назад +199

      @@kaseyrolow the alternative version has a different beginning and no therapist scenes. It is also completely different after Zoey escapes the acid rain puzzle and ends differently.

    • @jonahsilverman7079
      @jonahsilverman7079 2 года назад +125

      @@jedobson00 bro what the fuck, I literally watched the movie (this version) and didn’t know there even was an extended version. Where is the other version streaming?

    • @sandek9714
      @sandek9714 2 года назад +364

      I watched the extended cut version. I literally didn't know there was an AMANDA version till i watched this video

  • @Arcanis_07
    @Arcanis_07 2 года назад +703

    You missed the fact that at the end of the first movie, the only reason Ben and Zoey survived is because they killed the game master, who was killing the last survivor. So how are there other survivors when they kill all there winners? And yes the movie brings up this plot hole in the elevator scene, but is ignored with a comment that doesn’t answer the question. So they knew about the plot hole, addressed the plot hole, and then ignored the plot hole hoping we wouldn’t notice. Well I noticed… I noticed.

    • @musiclover48576
      @musiclover48576 2 года назад +220

      In the extended version of the movie Claire says Zoey was the first person who truly beat them and people liked it and wanted an encore so they started letting people win so they could build their “tournament of champions”

    • @RuberDildo
      @RuberDildo 2 года назад +6

      EXACTLY.

    • @miyannaadams7492
      @miyannaadams7492 2 года назад +2

      this!

    • @ItsAv3rageGamer
      @ItsAv3rageGamer 2 года назад +35

      Zoey was the only person who actually won.
      There's a scene where Claire tells her they let the other winners win on purpose.

    • @gemstar7286
      @gemstar7286 2 года назад +12

      Yeah I wish it was explained more how the other people survived their games aswell . Ben only survived because Zoe saved him, and Zoe survived because she used the oxygen mask. It's like they wanted to keep us guessing or keep it a mystery.Were the other surviviors just lucky?, as there always has to be 1 surivivor and it seems all of them must have been the 1 survivor in their own game.

  • @audreysfunny
    @audreysfunny 2 года назад +432

    The movie’s main problem was that they made Minos too powerful. What kind of fictional antagonist plots out every possible decision that the complex human mind is going to make and somehow comes up with intelligent and lethal designs in time for the heroes to experience them?

    • @blueismylove3128
      @blueismylove3128 2 года назад +70

      Exactly. For me the movie is no fun when they make the villain way too powerful.

    • @ashtonmcfarlane481
      @ashtonmcfarlane481 2 года назад +8

      the extended cut makes way more sense

    • @reginaphellangie6632
      @reginaphellangie6632 2 года назад

      @@ashtonmcfarlane481 the one with claire in it?

    • @gemstar7286
      @gemstar7286 2 года назад +13

      Minos or Claire depending on which version you watched, but the room i really hated was the acid one . it was rigged for Rachel & Brianne to fail . I still don't think the theory /idea of them rolling under the taxi would have saved them from the rain, Minos or claire probably would have had some type of trap under the taxi to crush their bodies or hurt them in someway. I hate how the little shop/store is locked and can't be accessed for them to shelter from the rain. Like what is the point in having a dumb little shop there just to torture them some more??.

    • @gemstar7286
      @gemstar7286 2 года назад +8

      And i also thought at the time why didn't Zoe hold the taxi door open for Brianne & Rachel to get it ???? *smh* , It felt like everyone instantly became rookies playing an escape room for the first time ever. Even Rachel or Brianne could have reminded her to hold the door but nope nothing , They just watch Zoe jump in the taxi , and Zoe seems to forget that this game instantly blocks exit doors /escape holes etc . Seeing her try and break the strong glass with her feet was silly aswell , it was never going to break .

  • @JTGallant
    @JTGallant 2 года назад +166

    13:40 - "I bet that fridge is our way out" was actually one of my favorite things about this film because lots of basic escape rooms DO use a locked fridge as a secret door out of the room. Good little in joke, and for two rooms I've done, that was the case. I even made that joke the second time and was right.

    • @Klm49
      @Klm49 2 года назад +12

      I also felt like, because these people had already all gone through a Minos death escape room thing, of course they would be able to assume what Minos might do for an exit. But I'm happy to know they did a little research and did something that is relevant to real life escape rooms. Is there anything else like that in the movies??

  • @ViewerOnline101
    @ViewerOnline101 2 года назад +1267

    My biggest problem with this movie was that in the first one, the puzzles were solvable and capable of being solved. In this one, most of the puzzles are so outlandishly BS that the way to solve them are such leaps in logic and are so incapable of being solved that the fact that they figured them out at all is ridiculous, let alone in the short timeframe given to them. Still an enjoyable watch.

    • @GAshoneybear
      @GAshoneybear 2 года назад +84

      Yeah, that is one of the main reasons I didn't enjoy this. I like a logical progression to escape rooms and it takes the fun out of it when it can't really be solved without movie plot armor. The other was Minos was far too powerful and omniscient to suspend my disbelief.

    • @nunureds837
      @nunureds837 2 года назад +10

      @@GAshoneybear totally agree. Too angry to even enjoy the ride lol

    • @mhktraining7746
      @mhktraining7746 2 года назад +11

      Puzzles would be made more complicated because it’s literally called “Tournament of Champions”
      The movie sucked though.

    • @Sushi_219
      @Sushi_219 2 года назад +12

      Exactly, the first one was so realistic, but the sequel was so fake the way they reached a conclusion of how the puzzle should be solved had no logic to it, the train had zero logic and all fantasy.

    • @moonlitxangel5771
      @moonlitxangel5771 Год назад +12

      @@Sushi_219 I disagree. The train is really the only one that has some logical sense to it and a way that it could realistically be solved. An argument could be made for the bank one, but the rest? Definitely not. Also they made all the escape rooms in the first one (aside from the drugs room) solvable for the most amount of people to survive (and there'd be a way around it I imagine) - in this one there's no way anyone besides one person could have survived the city one without knowing for certain what was going to happen. It was also really contrived cuz it's clear that it was set up specifically for Zoey to survive, but she survives out of pure dumb luck. If Rachel or Brianna had been the one to go check the taxi, Zoey would have died in the acid and the whole rest of the movie no longer works.
      And that's for both versions. Claire set out to get Zoey to help her solve the puzzle keeping her trapped (which the guy she feigned interest in could have solved and Zoey wasn't even needed - you can't tell me the genius behind all these escape rooms couldn't have figured out that "different perspective" thing and had someone go park it in the corner). Amanda and Minos obviously lured Zoey to the end to try and force her to make puzzles for the next game. Also if Ben's alive does that mean Nate is too? Cuz that whole "if you didn't see it, it didn't happen" nonsense should have applied to him too.

  • @raydunakin
    @raydunakin 2 года назад +1415

    Missed sin: There should be two locks on each of the safe deposit boxes. Real safe deposit boxes require TWO keys -- your key, plus the bank's key.

    • @BEEFCAKESMASH
      @BEEFCAKESMASH 2 года назад +89

      Not a real bank. It’s an escape room. No sin here.

    • @MyGamerstudios
      @MyGamerstudios 2 года назад +17

      Sinning everything wrong with. *ding*

    • @hhprincess647
      @hhprincess647 2 года назад +59

      real banks don't have lasers either

    • @theDecent60
      @theDecent60 2 года назад +22

      Not all banks require a 2nd key. My old bank didn't.

    • @SA80TAGE
      @SA80TAGE 2 года назад +20

      Nope, that differs from bank to bank. Some do, some don't.... and at any rate, this isn't a real bank, nor is it a movie version of a real bank, it's a death trap disguised as a bank.

  • @jjgaminghd3471
    @jjgaminghd3471 2 года назад +172

    About 9 minutes into this video, one of the sins is that Zoey says that her group was all lone survivors, but ‘zoey and Ben aren’t lone survivors and nobody questions that’. She was simply referring to the fact that she was the only survivor from her plane crash, and Ben was the only survivor from his car crash

    • @Bramblestar9339
      @Bramblestar9339 2 года назад +25

      Am glad I’m not the only one who noticed this. Everyone in their group was a sole survivor/tragedy

    • @UnboxingAlyss
      @UnboxingAlyss 2 года назад +11

      They used the phrase "sole survivor", but it's the same thing. Not sure why Jeremy sinned this. It was actually accurate, unless he meant the "lone survivors" if their game? That makes even less sense to me, when taking the context of the conversation into account.

    • @jeffjeffries8924
      @jeffjeffries8924 2 года назад +14

      @@UnboxingAlyss Cinema Sins is extremely hit or miss with this stuff. There's a lot of shit that flies right over his head.

    • @DonoZeek
      @DonoZeek Год назад +2

      Cinema Sins doesn't review accurately. The dude is ridiculous which is the point.

  • @jaktrapt
    @jaktrapt 2 года назад +560

    One thing that bugged me about this movie is if Ben survived the quicksand, I feel like Nathan should have also survived

  • @AndrewBromby
    @AndrewBromby 2 года назад +195

    So, This isn't the version on the movie I saw and I need an explanation! The version I watched didn't have Amanda come back at all, it was the bubble girl who was the secret villian

    • @katey-anneothen2017
      @katey-anneothen2017 2 года назад +51

      Apparently there was an extended cut for home release and then a different one for movie theatres. I saw the one without Amanda too

    • @alexisvivar1084
      @alexisvivar1084 2 года назад +38

      I was about to say this was a whole completely different movie than the one I saw, because I swear minos isn't alive anymore and the daughter is the new villain

    • @Duffman1800
      @Duffman1800 2 года назад +11

      @@katey-anneothen2017 I saw this in theaters and this was the same movie I saw, they actually showed different movies in different theaters around the country.

    • @Samsaknight
      @Samsaknight 2 года назад +13

      Yea same, I wonder which ending they’re gonna adapt tho? I’ve see a lot of hate on the original ending, and a lot of praise on the other version

    • @Zeldagirlartist
      @Zeldagirlartist 2 года назад +5

      @@Samsaknight I read up after watching the movie today. Supposedly it’s confirmed that the theater version with Amanda is supposed to be the true story

  • @deepseastonecore3017
    @deepseastonecore3017 2 года назад +287

    A star walks into a black hole but doesn't seen phased.The black hole then turns to the star and says, "I don't think you understand the gravity of this situation."

    • @_sun_god_nika_1288
      @_sun_god_nika_1288 2 года назад +18

      I’m angry that this is funny

    • @randomnessltd
      @randomnessltd 2 года назад +5

      I'm actually surprised at how well executed that was.

  • @itzmeavery9854
    @itzmeavery9854 2 года назад +554

    A few missed sins:
    On the train, Rachel pulls the emergency brake but the handle comes off. A minute or two later, we see the same handle somehow reattached to the emergency brake.
    On the beach, why not just untie the rope attaching the anchor to the mechanism under the sand?
    The entire “angle holding a key” clue in the city room is just f*cking stupid
    Brianna figured out that the fridge is their escape from the beach because the power cord is missing, which seems very unlikely
    Zoey looks into the beach shack and somehow immediately comes to the conclusion that the fridge is their escape.
    One sin should be removed for the escape taxi in the city having drop down barriers on the bottom to prevent the players from hiding underneath it
    (Not necessarily a sin but) everyone hates on Nate for not listening to everyone to stop guessing which tiles were correct during the bank scene, but if he hadn’t they probably wouldn’t have escaped the room. The papers wouldn’t have burnt and Rachel wouldn’t have been led to the conclusion that the papers weren’t the answer.
    Ben’s immediate conclusion to seeing a beach with tons of sand is landmines, and NOT F*CKING QUICKSAND.
    Nate diving in to save Rachel is completely pointless, seeing as he dies anyway and they would’ve had the same amount of people if he hadn’t tried to save her.
    How tf did Minos put Tesla coils in the thin ass roof of a subway car? Those would be way too big to fit in there!
    Also, nobody noticed the Minos corporation making big changes to one of the train cars? Nobody noticed them installing whole Tesla coils? Or putting subway tokens inside the handles? Or making a f*cking hole in the floor of it?
    The counters become rigged to the lasers in the bank when the deposit boxes are opened. So what would’ve happened if everyone went over the counters and they couldn’t go back over them after the boxes were opened?
    (There is definitely more, if I find more I’ll share them here)

    • @emmanw3l
      @emmanw3l 2 года назад +4

      💯 fax

    • @randomnessltd
      @randomnessltd 2 года назад +7

      Okay your first "sin" is actually legit. All the others are blatant whining. CinemaSins subscribers!

    • @williamsummerson1204
      @williamsummerson1204 2 года назад +7

      @@randomnessltd don't disrespect my favorite channel or the subs.🤬

    • @randomnessltd
      @randomnessltd 2 года назад +4

      Landmines can be small enough to be hidden by sand, so your point is??

    • @itzmeavery9854
      @itzmeavery9854 2 года назад +27

      @@randomnessltd the danger of the room always has something to do with the theme of the room, landmines have nothing to do with a beach

  • @KatieMaddalena
    @KatieMaddalena 2 года назад +56

    "Underlying fear of flying."
    Girl that fear is front and center. It's literally your whole character.

  • @micah4029
    @micah4029 2 года назад +47

    I was super confused in the beginning when Jeremy hinted Amanda would be back since I'd already seen the movie. It wasn't until later, when he mentioned there are two versions, that I realized I'd unknowingly watched the extended cut.

  • @Romayf11
    @Romayf11 2 года назад +60

    missed a sin:
    where the news reporter was speaking, the tab underneath said 4 bodies were found even though 2 literally melted to death. there should be only 2 discovered.

    • @thebrightdiamondtp7871
      @thebrightdiamondtp7871 2 года назад +17

      You can still classify a pile of skin and bones as a body if it looks humane to match someone or not.

  • @taygettem580
    @taygettem580 2 года назад +64

    I saw the extended version 1st where it was the game makers daughter who made the traps. Didn't even know this version of the movie existed till now. Let's just say the extended version was a better ending that tied things up. This version is a clear cash grab at a 3rd movie with this ending

  • @AwesomeMusicLady
    @AwesomeMusicLady 2 года назад +70

    Some of the other contestants escape rooms sound really interesting. Wish we could have seen those. That way I’d care more about these other contestants

    • @Klm49
      @Klm49 2 года назад +7

      Right!! I hope instead of continuing other sequels they go back and make movies for the other tournament of champions! Even knowing they make it, it would still be interesting to see how.

    • @justsomeoneontheinternet8327
      @justsomeoneontheinternet8327 Год назад +4

      @@Klm49 I was hoping they would add like, little scenes of their rooms when they mentioned what their room was like.

    • @W3Slots
      @W3Slots Год назад +1

      Exactly. Like dude in the first scene. He seemed cool

    • @jamesliggins891
      @jamesliggins891 11 месяцев назад

      i mean that almost never happens. this isn't a superhero universe, even if cinema sins compared it to one. most films don't do this -- including the hunger games, which this story takes a lot from lol. in the second hunger games, when they brought back all of the winners, we hadn't seen all of their games / known who they were before then. same for plenty of other stories.

    • @oranphillips6940
      @oranphillips6940 7 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@jamesliggins891 I still think it would've been nice to see influencer girl's exploding hall of mirrors. Even as a traumatic flashback.

  • @Bramblestar9339
    @Bramblestar9339 2 года назад +57

    They weren’t Lone Survivors of their escape room, everyone in their escape room were lone Survivors of an accident. Like the plane the MC was on crashed and everyone and her mother died. That was the theme of their escape room.

  • @BlackestVulture
    @BlackestVulture 2 года назад +18

    The acid rain scene is so confusing to me. If the exit is inside the Taxi the bottom of the taxi should be solid, but nobody notices that even though they enter the scene from a manhole just beside the taxi. Also how can you bang on the taxi glass covered in metal-melting acid without any problem?

    • @friggincanvee
      @friggincanvee 9 месяцев назад

      You're not at an eye level at the manhole for very long. And you wouldn't see it stood up. Not to mention the stress levels... So that's hardly a fair sin.

  • @caitlinrix294
    @caitlinrix294 2 года назад +40

    What I found _really_ weird about this film was that it wasn't the sequel hook the end of the first one showed. It looks like the sequel hook at the end of the first one is for the _third_ film, assuming a third one is made. Bizarre.

    • @panicatthegasstation
      @panicatthegasstation 2 года назад +4

      Fingers crossed there isn't a third one.

    • @Samsaknight
      @Samsaknight 2 года назад +3

      What? Lol

    • @Samsaknight
      @Samsaknight 2 года назад +4

      @@panicatthegasstation If they adapt the other ending (aka the better one) it could acc be a decent movie, like the first one

    • @panicatthegasstation
      @panicatthegasstation 2 года назад +2

      @@Samsaknight I just can't get past the basic premise and the unbelievable plot for some reason. It's almost insulting.

    • @Samsaknight
      @Samsaknight 2 года назад

      @@panicatthegasstation For which cut?

  • @screamingbean7509
    @screamingbean7509 2 года назад +244

    I didn’t even know they had released a sequel. The first one was fine and I had fun with with it, but it definitely doesn’t need a sequel it was just fine as a stand alone

    • @thecunninlynguist
      @thecunninlynguist 2 года назад +23

      they're gonna milk it like SAW. Especially after the revelation in this film.

    • @DavidKen878
      @DavidKen878 2 года назад +5

      If the first one was fine and you had fun with it, why wouldn't they make a sequel?

    • @smittywerbenjagermanjensen4737
      @smittywerbenjagermanjensen4737 2 года назад +15

      Lol did you just ignore the ending of the first one then? I mean they clearly left it open for a sequel

    • @everyonegetselfears1444
      @everyonegetselfears1444 2 года назад +3

      Honestly this one ruins the original. Having Amanda be alive is utter bull. It’d be better to just ignore the first one’s ending and don’t watch this and have a better time.

    • @shawklan27
      @shawklan27 2 года назад +1

      @@thecunninlynguist oh boy

  • @jadagirl69
    @jadagirl69 2 года назад +34

    Hmm.... Well. I did not see this version. I saw the version mentioned where the Game Master's daughter made the mazes ((and *spoilers* was the antagonist in the end)). Didn't even know they had brought back Amanda! And Ben captured was different.... Ahh well

  • @C00LB0Y4999
    @C00LB0Y4999 2 года назад +24

    Dear CinemaSins, would you ever do a part 2 for the "extended cut"/Puzzle Master's daughter version of this movie? I had no idea the theatrical version was so different.

  • @TheAlan136
    @TheAlan136 2 года назад +17

    I actually figured out the “blind love” sea shell thing pretty early. That was the easiest one to figure out.

    • @DocStewie77
      @DocStewie77 2 года назад +7

      Right?!? Like, the shells are obviously not supposed to be there, so I automatically assumed that they were placed there with a purpose.

  • @thatblackfeller4067
    @thatblackfeller4067 2 года назад +37

    Been waiting for this movie to get sinned, I love the escape room series but love the cinemasins escape room series even more

  • @rmannayr2129
    @rmannayr2129 2 года назад +10

    I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY DID 2 DIFFERENT ENDINGS! One with Amanda still being Alive and One with Claire being the Person who created The Rooms.

  • @TheTrueJevil
    @TheTrueJevil 2 года назад +5

    9:00 when she said she were lone survivors, she meant that all of the people who participated in the first game were lone survivors of some accident/disaster.

  • @PantMal
    @PantMal 2 года назад +162

    To add another sin: Rachel says she can't feel physical pain. Doesn't this mean she could have carried the team in the earlier puzzles, especially the first one?

    • @The_Archer-he2ft
      @The_Archer-he2ft 2 года назад +106

      she may not be able to feel the pain, but the damage would be real, which i would understand not wanting to risk making yourself crippled in that situation

    • @DavidKen878
      @DavidKen878 2 года назад +70

      Being electrocuted is more than just physical pain. Not only that, her damaging her body isn't no big deal just because she can't feel what's happening.

    • @fuzzyapple
      @fuzzyapple 2 года назад +88

      Rachel is actually in bigger danger than anyone else, because she doesn't know when she's in trouble, if none of her other senses tell her

    • @vizthex
      @vizthex Год назад +3

      @@fuzzyapple ikr

    • @daryissaplayz2312
      @daryissaplayz2312 Год назад

      Uh no? She'd still be injured or dead if she got electrocuted or cut by a laser.

  • @kinglowtier
    @kinglowtier 2 года назад +23

    I'm SO confused. I didn't see this version (I saw the gamemaster's daughter version) so now I have to go back and find this cut of the movie and watch the end of it AGAIN... Ugh!

    • @ForeverUrLeo
      @ForeverUrLeo 2 года назад +2

      Me and you both I’m so lost right now

    • @billborrowed3939
      @billborrowed3939 2 года назад +2

      I too saw the game master version. What’s up with the version discussed here? Wasn’t orphan-in-vacuum-room not bad enough?

    • @UnboxingAlyss
      @UnboxingAlyss 2 года назад +1

      @@billborrowed3939 This was the version released in (US) theaters, so it is the version most Americans know. I'm assuming this is why Jeremy chose it. I saw the alternate because I bought the blu-ray, but most people haven't.

    • @jimjam4082
      @jimjam4082 2 года назад

      both versions are available on amazon streaming

    • @Zeldagirlartist
      @Zeldagirlartist 2 года назад

      @@UnboxingAlyss it’s possible this version was chosen because it’s supposedly the true story that they wanted to follow so they could keep milking the franchise. The director or whoever wanted his version to be the story which made the series end though it made a lot more sense in that way. I read it online when the vid came out idk if it’s true or not but that’s maybe why Jeremy chose this version, because it’s what will be following the storyline

  • @Samsaknight
    @Samsaknight 2 года назад +5

    I’m glad u guys decided to do the original cut cuz I couldn’t find it on yt, since streaming services show a whole completely diff story

  • @kamoiyag5674
    @kamoiyag5674 2 года назад +15

    The escape room tournament of champions that I watched had a completely different ending I thought I was going crazy. I was like how do I not remember Amanda coming back???? I prefer this ending and wish I had seen this one instead.

  • @jrb9191
    @jrb9191 2 года назад +17

    I way prefer the alternate version. The first 15 minutes and last 15 made it literally a different movie

  • @Igorcastrochucre
    @Igorcastrochucre 2 года назад +17

    You know that last Alien movie where some parts were explained in an exclusive web short that you had to watch prior to seeing the movie? It seems like this movie should have had something like that.

  • @HandlelessTML
    @HandlelessTML 2 года назад +10

    I was 3 minutes into this video before I realized Escape Room had a sequel.

  • @MrShisuto
    @MrShisuto 2 года назад +26

    I’ve been waiting eagerly for this one since they predicted it.

  • @registereduser
    @registereduser 2 года назад +5

    Love it when you do movies I wasn’t going to watch! I only know what happened in the first ER from the video here.

  • @aubreywright9834
    @aubreywright9834 2 года назад +9

    The one sin I expected to see and didn’t is that by making it so that the characters we don’t “see” die aren’t actually dead they ruin the idea behind the escape rooms in the first place. That and why there are so many survivors if they all get strangled at the end like the game master was going to do Ben.

  • @Darthpuffi_Sub_Pls
    @Darthpuffi_Sub_Pls 2 года назад +11

    I saw the extended cut and I was beyond confused why Amanda was there

  • @ryansharp9550
    @ryansharp9550 2 года назад +17

    6:18 the subway car represented here is the R68A, which does have cabs at both ends. However only one of those cabs is the full width of the car, which they should both of them to be. In reality, the other cab is just a corner cab with just enough space for the Train Operator or Conductor. They got many things right with this whole subway situation, but there a few things that stand out to me (besides the cab thing) that I can't ignore. One, the tunnels. They did very well with them, and they look very realistic, but are far too bright. The signal that they had was a simple 2 aspect green-red signal, when in reality, it should have been two 3 aspect green-orange-red signals, one on top of the other. Two, the cars' signage. The only end-of-car signs that exist are on the No. 1 end of the A cars (in this case,, the trailing end of the car that the characters are in)
    A final thing, there would also be something called a "tripcock" which would trip the car's brakes as a safety precaution to keep trains safely spaced, so the emergency brakes would have realistically been tripped soon after they disconnected from the other 7 cars of the train.

  • @jvluv3322
    @jvluv3322 2 года назад +3

    at 20:40 the rooms are placed correctly cuz if you remember the subway had an elevator that led down to the bank, then the bank was pretty much next to the beach. The NYC room had to be above the beach because Zoey and Rachel climb a ladder to get up. And then Zoey falls down to the bedroom room which is why it was above.

  • @yashv5555
    @yashv5555 2 года назад +4

    At this point, I prefer this commentary over the movies rather than just the plain movies

  • @hopelesslag
    @hopelesslag 2 года назад +33

    I've been waiting for this. Please tear that cheating company apart.

  • @samanthabarbara2027
    @samanthabarbara2027 2 года назад +15

    YES I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR SO LONG

    • @Melodious-X
      @Melodious-X 2 года назад

      SAME I JUST JUMPED OUT OF MY SEAT WITH EXCITEMENT

  • @GAshoneybear
    @GAshoneybear 2 года назад +38

    As someone who has never seen the extended cut, does the difference in story explain the illogical design of the puzzles? My main complaint was the suspension of disbelief is ruined having the rooms practically set up to fail yet having the characters solve them when there would be no logical reason for them to get to those conclusions to solve the puzzles.

    • @isabelgarcia8652
      @isabelgarcia8652 2 года назад +16

      I think with that issue, the extended cut makes way more sense because it explains why

    • @3xavior17
      @3xavior17 2 года назад +13

      Unless I missed something I wouldn't say a huge amount. Instead of Amanda being part of Minos it sets up a game maker and his daughter. The beginning replace the part with the therapist with a backstory about the game maker and his daughter with his wife dying in a puzzle room in their house. Current day has them try to fly but Zoe freaks out before they get on the plane and leads to them driving. The movie played out the same for all of the game segments I believe then once Zoe gets out of the acid room there is a different ending. She is in the game maker's house and helps the game maker's daughter escape a room that she has been locked in since she was little. You find out some more about their back story. It also does explain the why behind every room, but doesn't really explain how they managed to luck out of every room vs having actual clues.
      I felt it still left many questions to be answered.

    • @seasnek7024
      @seasnek7024 2 года назад +3

      Yeah the extended cut completely explains it all better and makes way more sense too

    • @island_girl_shan
      @island_girl_shan Год назад +3

      @@3xavior17 Oh yeah, I forgot I had watched a woman trying to escape a sauna scene instead of that therapy session here 😅

  • @RuberDildo
    @RuberDildo 2 года назад +6

    Wtf, this is a completely different movie from the one I saw. Amanda wasn't even in it, it was the Puzzle maker's daughter.
    I didn't even get to see a plane escape room because Zowey chickened out right before going onboard.
    I DEMAND A PLANE ESCAPE ROOM.

  • @Kuraiuta
    @Kuraiuta 2 года назад +5

    For the train conductor door, some trains do have two. The trains in my city have two conductor cars on each end of the train and at the end of the line they go to the other car so they don't have trade the cars every 1 and half.

  • @AnbuGreenShinobi
    @AnbuGreenShinobi 2 года назад +3

    I literally just watched this for the first time last night. Perfect timing Jeremy!

  • @TardRepellent
    @TardRepellent 2 года назад +17

    I almost re-watched this last night to see if it was as bad as I remember. I really liked the first movie, this one straight pissed me off. I remember watching it thinking holy shit I can't wait until CinemaSins rips this one

    • @AL3X1KUS
      @AL3X1KUS 2 года назад

      You do know they "sin" every movie ever as a joke, right? Everything that Jeremy says in these is just pure humour.

    • @TardRepellent
      @TardRepellent 2 года назад +1

      @@AL3X1KUS why yes I am aware. what leads you to believe I did not know this?

  • @dilana9337
    @dilana9337 2 года назад

    i have been waiting for this video for SO LONG

  • @BEEFCAKESMASH
    @BEEFCAKESMASH 2 года назад +4

    I’ve only seen the unrated extended cut, so I was quite surprised to see the huge difference to the storyline here. Guess I have to watch the theatrical version now. Haha

  • @gyroscope915
    @gyroscope915 2 года назад +35

    The people that made this movie have definitely never played an escape game.
    None of the clues match what you need to do.
    It's all about random guesses and just being right

    • @Shuizid
      @Shuizid 2 года назад +4

      To be fair, this is what you have to expect if your operation runs on forcing people with severe trauma and just a boatload of other mental-health issues after surviving a deathgame, to design another deathgame.

    • @gyroscope915
      @gyroscope915 2 года назад

      @@Shuizid that's a fair point

  • @rbelobrov
    @rbelobrov 2 года назад +15

    The Deborah Ann Woll return in this movie is completely shocking to me... This isn't the movie I saw. The movie I saw was the guy who's running this Daughter designed all the traps and tricked the girl to help free her. What is happening right now?

    • @Duffman1800
      @Duffman1800 2 года назад +1

      I saw this in theaters and this was the same movie I saw, they actually showed different movies in different theaters around the country.

    • @jeffjeffries8924
      @jeffjeffries8924 2 года назад

      There are two versions of the film. This is the theatrical cut. For whatever reason, when this movie started circulating the web, it was the extended cut. Quite frustrating, but you can get both of them now. Personally, I liked the theatrical cut so much more than the extended cut.

    • @Zeldagirlartist
      @Zeldagirlartist 2 года назад

      @@jeffjeffries8924 from what I read the theatrical cut will continue the story and is true to the storyline

    • @jeffjeffries8924
      @jeffjeffries8924 2 года назад

      @@Zeldagirlartist That makes sense. I definitely feel like a lot of the content they cut out (from the theatrical) was necessary for the continuation of the story.

  • @prophetofmoresheth
    @prophetofmoresheth 2 года назад +4

    You should do a Sin episode with the extended version as well, cause there were a few scenes in that that were painful to watch

  • @BadV00d00z
    @BadV00d00z 2 года назад +1

    I worked on septa PA transit subway cars. They do have conductor front and back since they are interchangeable. Basicly drive forward get to the end switch then go backwards. Each one exactly the same and they just mismatch them for routes

  • @Phoenix-bi9bn
    @Phoenix-bi9bn 2 года назад +10

    While I appreciate a film that is SO clever you can't see things coming, this film also would require the characters to be smarter than Einstein to win, and they don't even struggle

  • @junkonatsumizaka5149
    @junkonatsumizaka5149 2 года назад +3

    I LOVE this guy. 13:54 WHY is this dialogue = me during SO much movie dialogue. This is one of my favorite channels because he always points out everything (and more) that I was thinking while watching! Love how he never holds back his analytical side and just SAYS IT LIKE IT IS. 👌 Thank you so much for every video you make!

  • @romiarkan450
    @romiarkan450 2 года назад +3

    When I first saw the movie title I was like "Is this some kind of reality game show?"

  • @broomstix1
    @broomstix1 2 года назад +2

    The moon exit was to get back at Zoey for finding a loophole in the last movie. They knew she’d try to use the “another way out” logic again.

  • @SkyThom3
    @SkyThom3 2 года назад +7

    After watching the first movie i was in complete denial that they'd make a second film.

  • @maxbracegirdle9990
    @maxbracegirdle9990 2 года назад +4

    Thanks. I like when you put alot of the plot into the videos so I can watch shitty movies vicariously through you. 💜

  • @Kidkinsey
    @Kidkinsey Год назад +1

    Minos might be the most sinned person in sin history. The amount of “but how” this movie franchise glosses over is crazy

  • @SoleLawd
    @SoleLawd 2 года назад +2

    From living in NYC yes there is 2 different conductor booth on a single car they are mostly intercom rooms for the assistant conductor who announces the stops but driving the train no… but on one singular train there is two conductor driving booth on one train.

  • @Antrod
    @Antrod 2 года назад +3

    Here it is!! I was waiting on this one! As soon as I started watching it, I knew Cinema Sins was going to have a field day. Grabbing my popcorn for this one.

  • @Awstenx
    @Awstenx 2 года назад +5

    Now I love these films, but mostly because of my huge crush on Logan Miller (Ben), but the thing bothered me the most was Amanda and the fact she never mentioned a daughter in the first film. Clearly if she had a daughter in the first one she would of tried harder to "survive" in the upside down room.

    • @UnboxingAlyss
      @UnboxingAlyss 2 года назад

      This is partially why the (US) theatrical version was trash. It doesn't make sense to brig her back. I disagree with the fact that she would have "tried harder" to survive if she had a daughter. Having a kid doesn't necessarily make you want to survive more. We all have loved ones we care about.

  • @chriswitmer9754
    @chriswitmer9754 2 года назад

    At first I didn’t think I was watching too many CS videos but I did watch this last night, and I did call at least a few.

  • @dervakommtvonhinten517
    @dervakommtvonhinten517 7 месяцев назад +2

    was wondering the same thing regarding how they got these exact people into the train

  • @wandergaming7936
    @wandergaming7936 Год назад +3

    I honestly loved this movie. The suspense and scares of some of the rooms were great

  • @tyrone5969
    @tyrone5969 2 года назад +19

    Am I alone in feeling like the past few years have been an Escape Room movie?

  • @marlepeace9844
    @marlepeace9844 Год назад

    It’s been a while since I’ve watched Cinemasins but man, this sounds like some genuine rage and frustration at this movie XD

  • @CodingItWrong
    @CodingItWrong 2 года назад

    The "draining" joke is one of my favorite Cinema Sins jokes ever 😄

  • @NajarinPrime
    @NajarinPrime 2 года назад +3

    The way CinemaSins solves the puzzles makes me want to say: CinemaSins would be excellent at Cinema Summary

  • @yuedarkangel1
    @yuedarkangel1 2 года назад +18

    Wait they released two wildly different versions of this movie, at the same time? Guess I watched the extended version of this (the one with the daughter) and was getting confused about the therapist scene until the narrator talked about the two versions. Who Does That? +100 sins for releasing wildly different versions of a film at the same time.

  • @xandercronje1950
    @xandercronje1950 2 года назад

    Been waiting so long

  • @thomastheterrific3051
    @thomastheterrific3051 2 года назад +1

    Nice video bro

  • @jacktucker9032
    @jacktucker9032 2 года назад +5

    what I don't understand, is when Ben won the first escape room, the game master tried to kill him, and the only reason that he survived was because of Zoey, so how did everyone else live assuming the same thing happened and Minos tried to have them killed?

    • @UnboxingAlyss
      @UnboxingAlyss 2 года назад +4

      When the others mentioned that they were able to go home, Ben asked that very question. I think the game started then, so there was no explanation.

  • @elliesaint1984
    @elliesaint1984 2 года назад +11

    "my dad found a silver dollar with one of those once, it was worth a dollar"
    Really?, a silver dollar that was actually worth a dollar?, 😱 wow my head is about to explode... 😑 jesus christ

    • @beno1129
      @beno1129 2 года назад

      A silver dollar is actually a collectible that can be traded for a tidy sum of money (10s to 100s of actual dollars), so the quote does make sense.

    • @nunureds837
      @nunureds837 2 года назад

      I know lol the dialogue in this movie 🤦🏽‍♀️

  • @ladyj2552
    @ladyj2552 2 года назад +2

    I find myself saying roll credits for every movie title I watch.. I know that's not the way it's used on your channel but now, it's what I do..
    Roll credits..❤

  • @udop2
    @udop2 2 года назад

    IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE

  • @randomram3491
    @randomram3491 2 года назад +3

    when zoey said amanda sacrificed herself for them she didn't know amanda was still alive so technically you need to give yourself a sin, like at that moment she didn't know it took her a few months to know that.

  • @crystalmistry6754
    @crystalmistry6754 2 года назад +8

    I'm curious to see which ending they'll use for a 3rd movie (if they make one) since the plan scene isn't in the extended version.

    • @danieldang5366
      @danieldang5366 2 года назад

      probably the dvd one since people hated the Amanda version

    • @Zeldagirlartist
      @Zeldagirlartist 2 года назад +1

      @@danieldang5366 I’ve read they will go based of their theatrical version for the storyline. While the extended cut was possibly more of what the director wanted to do he wasn’t really allowed to and had to do the version with Amanda. So that’ll most likely be the one that carries on into the 3rd movie

  • @GREENF0X17
    @GREENF0X17 Год назад +1

    The fact he counted a sin because a random smartphone didn't capitalize a letter is the exact reason I'm going to binge every @CinemaSins video this week

  • @thefluffyman761
    @thefluffyman761 2 года назад +1

    holy cow i saw the extended cut without realizing and seeing the normal one is so confusing. the puzzle makers daughter makes more sense

  • @kevinbcannell
    @kevinbcannell 2 года назад +5

    Wtf, I didn’t know there’s two different versions of this movie, I watched the extended cut thinking it would have more scenes. Not an entirely different outcome!

  • @entelechy00
    @entelechy00 2 года назад +3

    What if it is very unusual for someone to actually die in the escape rooms? Minos recruits from its old players (and possibly cons "outsiders" that the games are legit, like a modern Candid Camera style show), and if we didn't see it, it didn't happen, so the first 3 players to "die" in the first movie didn't get invitations, the first death with a body was after Zoey took out some cameras (Did she accidentally prevent Minos from saving a person?). The second death with a body was unintentional and may have been preventable had there been a third person pretending to be drugged, but wasn't. The third death with a body was the game master who may have been trying an intense interrogation. After all, it seemed unusual that Ben solved the last room, did it quickly, and was so sure he solved it that he was upset that he was still going to be killed (insider knowledge to rig a game for the "dark horse"?).
    So the purpose of this in the mind of Minos is to 1: recruit Zoey, and 2: find out who tip off Ben to the solutions?

  • @josephhart7661
    @josephhart7661 2 года назад

    Happy new year

  • @michaelsimmons8613
    @michaelsimmons8613 Год назад

    Haven't seen this movie at all but this video did make me want to see an internet short about the janitor who has to go back through and reset these escape rooms. Maybe had an episode or two in the NYC room where the architect fucked up and set off the acid rain trap while it was still being assembled killing his an assistant or two forcing him to try and talk a temp worker into the job haha.

  • @UlshaRS
    @UlshaRS 2 года назад +5

    The background that a high profile social media personality is they lost that many followers over a scar and didn't become a instant viral superstar because of the secondary backlash over abandoning her over being shallow, thus likely gaining her millions of more virtue signaling followers, means the writers don't understand a single thing about prediction of social behaviors and how they can be manipulated or subverted WHICH IS THE ENTIRE FUNCTION OF ESCAPE ROOMS!

  • @squimpy22
    @squimpy22 2 года назад +10

    When the title doesn’t say how long the video is

    • @squimpy22
      @squimpy22 2 года назад +2

      @Yurika💋 Shut up bot

  • @Beandonuts
    @Beandonuts Год назад +1

    All the cars in my city have conductor booths on both ends, so any car can drive going either way down the track.

  • @jamesm.sullivan6928
    @jamesm.sullivan6928 2 года назад

    There is a conductor booth at each end of the subway train, just like on a regular train. The direction that it is traveling is the active one, since trains can't really turn around, you need an engine at each end.

  • @frisky1552
    @frisky1552 2 года назад +8

    Theres 2 endings to this movie and i think thats funny

  • @aaronmazur8056
    @aaronmazur8056 2 года назад +40

    I really appreciate Jeremy. He saves a lot of people the torment of sitting through shitty movies. I come to him and Lee, CinemaWins, to decide if a movie is worth watching.

  • @JTGallant
    @JTGallant 2 года назад +1

    5:49 - Jeremy reveals he is not a New Yorker. Those pole dancing subway ads are pretty on point, because that is exactly what street performers do with them.

    • @Leshka147
      @Leshka147 2 года назад

      I almost had my head kicked by one of those subway dancers. That ad, while not the actual ad, looks enough like the real ad to give me flashbacks.

  • @dai985
    @dai985 2 года назад +2

    I didn't see this version. The version I saw was after the acid rain in NYC Zoey meets up with a girl named Claire. Claire was the reason why Zoey is back because she wanted Zoey to help her escape a complex room that her father trapped her in. Her father, Henry, isn't Minos but is one of the higher-ups in Minos. So, then Claire saved Ben and used him as leverage for Zoey to help her escape. But instead of Ben drowning, Henry found out where Ben was and used him in the final room that Claire designed from when her mother was killed. Then, in the end, we, the audience, find out that all the escape rooms used in the entire movie were based on Claire's life and the reason why her father trapped her in the room was that she wasn't okay mentally. In the end, she killed her father, because he basically took all the credit for making the rooms when it was actually Claire's designs.