Cory Sandhagen on Striking, Range & Stance | Joe Rogan | JRE MMA Show 138
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UFC Bantamweight Mixed Martial Artist, Cory Sandhagen, teaches Joe Rogan the approach to MMA Striking, Stance, managing distance and controlling range that helped in his recent fight against Chito Vera. This podcast clip is taken from the JRE MMA Show 138 with Cory Sandhagen, a spin-off of The Joe Rogan Experience Podcast, dedicated to MMA fighters and UFC interviews.
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Joe Rogan is joined by Cory Sandhagen, a professional mixed martial artist competing in the UFC's Bantamweight Division.
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Guest: Cory Sandhagen - @CorySandhagenMMA
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Host: Joe Rogan - @JoeRogan
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Producer: Young Jamie - @JamieVernon
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Guns are for people running away
The natural way a kid locks in in his first fight that's it !
Cory vs Petr was one of the best technical standup striking battles out there, hope they run it back one day
That division has so many fights I could watch over and over again
That was fight of the year for me over Gaethje Chandler. 5 rounds of beautiful striking
Wait till Cory vs Suga. Much better
@@blablablaa14No petr is more Technical.
@@walterbarros1854 How?
Finally we have real nerds in mma, not jocks and meatheads. Any kid that wants to excell fast should seek sandhagen out even before he becomes a full time coach. The right understanding is about the most important thing you can get
Fighters are slowly becoming more rounded and the general public doesnt even realize it. Big dudes are gonna be getting thrown around in the bar on the regular these days.. I mean.. as long as the big guys start it first lol. You don't know who you're messing with anymore.
@@JREGreatestHitswhat if the big dude trains too ? You're a midget ha ha 😢👈
Fuck yeah! Finally! Someone should go tell that macho man Royce Gracie from that family of innovat- uhhh ...I mean haters
@@JREGreatestHits that pretty much been that way for decades lol Ufc 1-2-3-4-5 kinda proved this with BJJ alone v actual trained big dudes. 2023 guys make ufc 1-5 guys look like total untrained bum bums though
Jon Jones
Sandhagen will be a great coach, he has the vision and comprehension, however once he creates solid conclusions he will be able to explain the sweet science to upcoming fighters for generations to come.
Interesting, he still has to figure those conclusions out for himself before he can be successful you're saying? Makes sense.
“However” is just a fancy word for “but”. The two points you made are both positive things with no contrast, so “and” as opposed to “however” would have made a lot more grammatical sense
@@CLairsoftFTW shut up nerd
@@CLairsoftFTWYeah I was looking at the however expecting something completely different after lol
He can barely string a coherent sentence together. Coaches need to be succinct and precise in their language.
I have been a long time Tekken player and now am a black belt in Kyokushin karate a well as been training Kickboxing for over 6 years. The biggest things I learnt after I built a solid foundation in martial arts was from Tekken. I always tried to react to things and be faster but as I got older I learnt very fast I wasn't as fast as I thought. I had so much trouble dealing with fast and tricky fighters. But Tekken taught me about 'option select' which in the game was basically using movement and spacing to understand the range of risks that could be thrown at you at a given spacing so you have to calculate the least amount of options in your brain and predict moves and counter appropriately. This changed the way I fight because it's easy to be overwhelmed in a fight when the person is fast and tricky. But understanding the relationship between the space and the strike reduces that feeling and allows you to reduces your sensory overload, thus reducing fatigue, thus increasing efficiency. When I paired 'option select' with 'whiff punishing' and 'challenging' I noticed my fight IQ really grew and my success went up. Don't get me wrong reactions are still essential in combat Sports but it's not everything it's made to be. Sometimes reacting to a combo isn't just the 'physical' reaction, it's reading the space and conditioning of the opponent that made the opponent's settup readable. Once you've committed to the educated low energy mental decisions you commit to the counter with 'confidence'. And the more confident you are in your reads the less taxing the body movement will be. In theory the better your deduction skills under pressure the better you are at effectively fighting.
I made this comment on a GSP video a while back where he commented about a fighter he knew would count frames just like in a fighting game and used priciples from fighting games to help build his IQ. This really connected with me about 5 years ago. Though I'd put this comment here for people to see because it might help you and sort of connects to what Cory is saying.
aewsome
I started playing street fighter 6 pretty recently (my first fighting game) and I’d felt this too. Obviously things are very exaggerated in a video game, but just like you mentioned I’ve found that the general approach to strategy within the game such as spatial control and awareness, knowledge of frame data, enemy conditioning, and even just using trickery and mind games is all really similar to a real fight.
It honestly blew my mind because I felt like my strategy in actual fighting has been getting better since I started playing, but I haven’t mentioned it to any of my friends cuz I feel like they wouldn’t believe me 😂 glad I’m not alone in this experience and that even some pros can see it.
Whats your favorite fighter in tekken?
@Ebb0Productions Been playing Bryan for 12 years.
@@FGCTekken Heck yeah, Bryan is so cool!
Podcasts are the best thing to happen to Athlete's fanbases.
It's crazy how many people I'm a fan of without even knowing their work lol.
This is why Sandhagen is my favorite fighter, the way he speaks about his art is just amazing.
When did he become your favorite fighter?
@@JREGreatestHits After the Frankie Edgar KO I went back and watched his previous bouts, fell in love with his style after that.
@@allenbackbone Awesome, thanks for watching and commenting Allen!
My favorite is Lawler; I know it's a different weight class but he moved very well.
You know when Joe just shuts up and listen that wise words are being spoken.
He does that a lot lately, he understands conversation in a way most people never will, and its funny watching people judge him for it without understanding.. "He never pushes back" "that joke went over his head"
No - he just knows when adding words isn't going to help anything and he knows what will throw a wrench in a conversation.
@@JREGreatestHits indeed.
Cory vs. Yan was so beautiful to see. A rematch with a full camp for Cory this time would be interesting to see.
Reminds me of my fencing days. Measure, move, time and find the advantage. It is not about what you see. You look for what is possible and in the blink of an eye you strike. Either attack, parry or counter but find an opening your opponent is not aware of yet.
Nice! We don't hear about fencing much.
@@JREGreatestHits Modern fencing (post 1896) is a very fast and accurate sport. The speed of an experienced fencer can surprise you. Very hard to catch on camera let alone to dissect with the eyes.
Queensbury stance was based upon fencing, right?
The Queensbury Stance must have roots in European combat, which includes fencing. Thing is, through the ages there have been many schools and methods. Exact origins are difficult to find.
In the uk we use fencing as a example for Olympic boxing always
True artist in the game.
He'll be around for awhile caleb!
Shoutout Nonito Donaire
Had to look him up! I recognize the nickname now. "The Filipino Flash"
The way he talks about fighting is a science
Absolutely, one day it's how everyone will be talking about fighting.
a battle for space and awareness on position. People have different attacks for their different stance. Striking is a game of hitting the target that uses the eyes a lot more so then feel like it is with grappling.
What's the best way to learn?
@@JREGreatestHits Hard Spar for 45 min weekly and dont miss a day of training. If practice is cancelled training is never. For every tick you gain a tack.
@@humbertopedraza147 that’s silly, you gon get brain damage hard sparring everyday. Why don’t you jump rope, footwork drills, shadow boxing, and bag work, then maybe spar at a working pace with a good partner
@@humbertopedraza147 you could also pick up bjj if you wanna go hard, because you’re less likely to hurt yourself that way, plus Royce showed bjj beats everything!
Yes
Finally an intelligent conversation on strategy
Cory is just such a refreshing guy to listen to. There’s such knowledge and willingness to learn more just flowing out of him man.
He worded everything so beautifully.
Not only is switching stances great, but it's a great way to display feints also. It really comes down to if someone is ambidextrous.
Corey deserves the next shot
Definitely re watching this 🔥
Thanks Anthony!
Well that was a joy to listen to.
Glad you liked it! I'm looking forward to another episode too. Thanks for commenting.
I was high watching this and I was literally thinking he was talking about the neutral game in For Honor
Sticking is so much harder to grasp than grappling ( coming from grappler) there is just so much to interpret.
I evolved as a striker by listening to this.
I wanna see Strickland talk about this he has some of the best defense in the ufc.
I swear he is making something simple sound so much more complicated 😂
Max Holloway mastered everything Corey is talking about
Great clip! This is my favorite subject and I’ve rarely heard discussions about it
Thats the reason I made this channel my friend! Ever since Joe went over to Spotify I haven't been seeing the types of JRE clips that I wanted on RUclips so I figured I would start doing it myself. There just haven't been a lot of chances for MMA clips since I started, Cory was the first good episode; but I'm here forever now haha.
as i understood he says the the distance is measured as time for you to react not as literal distance
I think I get what Cory is trying articulate. When I boxed I always described it as high stakes chess. Which is I think similar to what Cory means when he talks about a battle for space.
What if your opponent pushes through your stance switch?
I love when I come to this level of truly understanding a topic.. Like the point where you thought you knew something already but suddenly you see the same exact thing but in a whole new light or from a different angle/view than before. However trying to explain your thoughts and views and comprehension of that subject out loud to another human is usually quite difficult.. as we see here in this video😂.
GSP said the same thing when he fought BJ Penn the second time. Overloading the opponents brain will information will overload there central nervous system. No matter how focused it just throws some people off
Don't know much of him. He is right at everything he said, but the pace. Never underestimate pace. The one who controls the pace will always be favorite
He should’ve been what Sean o malley is.granted still top 5 fighter in his division
It’s weird though. Like a street fight you don’t really have a “ patient” fighter like organized fighting
You can tell that he thought he was struggling to explain what is in his head but he actually explained it BEAUTIFULLY. He's coming for that Bantam strap...Yan n Sterling got the best of him once, I don't think they'll do it again.
To be an effective striker you need to understand 3 things. Distance, Target and Timing. Remove any of these and you will not be effective. Think about it....
Does movement fall under distance? I would say theres are situations where movement may be different than distance..but maybe not I guess.. depends on how picky you wanna be with the logistics lol.
@@JREGreatestHits Movement could be distance. The distance I'm talking about is striking distance. You must understand how to use movement to close the distance to be in striking range/distance. if the punch doesnt have the correct distance its too short. Hope that makes sense?
He's talking chinese classical writing on fighting. No one dishonored the traditional arts as much as traditional martial artists. These concepts were all writing down 100 years ago and older.
Going for
Chino and wanting Chino to win,
That was frustrating to watch.
What did you think about the judging?
Who is the boxer he mentions at 4:56? something like menido dumor but nothing showed up
Are you talking about the Filipino flash?
I can't reference the video right now but a lot of people have been shouting out the Filipino flash from this clip.
Nonito Donaire great phillipino boxer
Who’s the fighter he mentioned? Tried spelling it in google as best I could and didn’t get results
Nonito Donaire, boxer
@@gashiraw3288 Thanks!
Thanks Gashira!
Bro is trying to put words to an impossible situation. You either understand from experience and feeling or you don't at all.
So many things in life are like this and I guess you can't really know it for sure until you actually have the experience. There's a lot of parallels with teaching poker when I think about it.
Thats just not true. Some people learn by feeling situations, some people learn by breaking down situations. Obviously you need both for optimal training, but you'll lean towards learning better from one of those two for sure.
Chino never got started
These guys always bring it regardless though, off days suck. Imagine being a fighter and having an off day, no choice but to fight anyway.
Yeah most people don’t, it shows when all the people that thought izzy was out of commission after two rounds of leg kicks speak up.
Most people dont what? Sorry maybe I misunderstood what you were commenting to.
@@JREGreatestHits oh I’m reference to What Corey is saying at the beginning of the video about not understanding striking at all
Ahh yes! Thank you for clarifying. I agree! Whats even funnier is people who think they understand grappling. People just don't understand fighting period lol.
Conor understood space better than anyone ever in his prime... Am I wrong?
Stance switching is like fighting two different people
If your not well verse on how to match both stances with your own you will indeed get fried
My money is on Rob Font
unlucky
I bet Sandhagen would be a decent chess player.
I've always been interested in how that game works but I'll probably never start.. I don't think I'd put the time into it that I need to in order to make myself good enough to actually want to play.
Gamers and dancers make great fighters js
People that can think and people that can use their bodies as tools. Makes sense. A gaming dancer turns into GSP.
His brain 🧠
He'll be a great coach when he's done kneeing people in the head!
Fluid striking at its highest level
Shout out the Filipino Flash!!!
Never heard of him! Were they talking MMA? I cant remember from the clip exactly. Must not have been MMA?
@@JREGreatestHits Nonito Donaire had a lightning left hook! I believe he had KOTY in 2011 vs Fernando Montiel. fantastic KO -- check it out sometime!
It wasnt mma was it?
@@JREGreatestHits No. Nonito Donaire is a boxer
I see Yoda 🤯
Yoda Sandhagen?
@@JREGreatestHits Yoda Sandman Sandhagen. Future Champion 🙏🙏🙏
I look at Sandhagen and think of a 90s sitcom like Maclom in the Middle. Wtf is happening?
hahaha you just ruined sandhagen for me. I'm gonna see Malcoms random cousin every time now.
Cory is an artist
Time, space, mass, speed, velocity.
Speed and acceleration. Speed and velocity are redundant.
Velocity can mean a couple things, at least that I can think of anyway.
No. Velocity has a specific definition, it doesn't mean a few things.
@@Kankudai It absolutely does, I could tell you another meaning for velocity that has nothing to even do with striking. The word isn't even a striking word, striking borrowed it bro.
@@JREGreatestHits no, you can't just make up multiple new definitions for a well-defined term.
Not much space if you get chocked out by Aljamain Sterling in a min and 30. Also lost to fighters nobody else has problems with.
This dudes fight IQ is even higher than I thought before watching this video.
Not to disagree
Roberto Duran would use touch and feel for his striking.
Same as Loma uses tactile stuff.
Though eyes are 99% for striking.
What part would you have changed of what he said? and thanks for sharing!
Your experience is limited by the formation of your structure. Formation and experience change if you change your neural connections or you lose a leg or you move. Why did the chicken cross the road?
Because by changing the formation of its structure its experience changed for the better. In this case the wrong formation can result in lights out. That’s what he really wanted to say I think
Bro what's with all of you strikers talking in the comments in ways that aren't making sense to me. Care to re explain? I don't get the words you guys are putting together lol.
Maybe you SHOULD study some philosophy, bro. It might teach you to convey your ideas in a more coherent way.
@@TheReservoirduck he's too deep for us lol, we'll figure it out eventually.
If you don’t understand him then you don’t understand the space
high level gaming have so many similarities
interesting, how so?
Dominic Sandhagen
Haha right on, hopefully he takes a bit of a different late route than dom did.
@@JREGreatestHits for sure!
@@NateDoggit thanks for watching have a good one Mr. Cheeks. lol.
@@JREGreatestHits lol no problem, I like here it's very interesting! And have a good one as well!
Thanks bud! I'm just getting started but I'll be consistently releasing clips every episode. I was noticing a lot of people missing clips on RUclips so I decided to start too.
Pilipino Flash.
Nonito Donaire!
What happens when Aljo grabs him ….
Isn't that answer already video taped? lol
v=d/t
ambidextrousness is correlated with schizophrenia.
He gave too much of the game away.
Nah, theres an unlimited amount of dialogue online - the biggest thing that will always stop people is action.
Lol no. He is talking about concepts. Its like talking about having perfect shooting form in basketball. People rarely have it.
These things still have to be drilled and applied. And most things that develop that “game” are too “boring” for most people to stick to for more than 10mins lol
Cerebral...
He has a special mind for a fighter
He is describing the basic principles of fighting games, not very eloquently though.
Who describes it best?
Do it better then bro. And also fight better.
@@pussyhammer6969 basic and asenine schoolyard "argument" i never said he was a bad fighter or that I was good or even better at fighting than him.
I understand striking.
That is why I think it is superior to grappling (grappling is great for self-defence when you can't run).
When I watch grapplers, I feel like I would survive in a real grappling exchange.
When I watch strikers, I can see how they can literally kill me with the right blow.
You don't need to make a lot of mistakes or a big mistake for a striker to leave you unconscious.
In comparison, to get choked out, you must do a lot of things wrong.
That's how I see MMA.
LOL
Im afraid I believe you're mistaken my friend. Have you ever grappled with someone who knows what they're doing? It would open your eyes immensely to go to a BJJ class or 2. Watching grappling is... just forget about that, you need to experience it with someone who KNOWS grappling at the level youd expect a striking expert to know striking. There is nothing anyone can do when against someone like that. Anyone can knock someone out with a lucky catch, but NOBODY can submit a black belt in BJJ if they don't have training. They can't even touch them. That's my opinion but I think it would be, and has been, proven true.
You definitely never have trained or fought
@@Badfella23
"You definitely never have trained or fought"
No.
But guess what, I have not trained or practised medicine, but I can tell when somebody is sick.
I may not know the exact disease, but I can tell the sick person, "you are not well!"
LOL
It goes pretty much the other way when you train. Striking is just a little bit more intuitive, where in grappling, if you are lost, you ARE LOST.
@@luishoutet4954
It depends.
I have never trained grappling, but from watching UFC fights, I can tell that if you tie up the grappler and you don't attempt to change positions, then you are pretty safe.
For example, often when Anderson Silva was taken down, he would just close his guard, pull the opponent's head towards his chest, and just maintain that position.
He didn't try to change his position, and he remained pretty safe that entanglement.
In comparison, if you stand in front of Anderson Silva doing nothing, then you could eat a kick to the face like ViTRTor.
LOL
Got my ass kicked the other day. Getting pieced up by heavy combinations. Just smiled at him and said "oh you think that's what striking is?". Guy was an amateur
But was he better than you or not? Im confused by this statement lol.
😑
I mean you did give some mixed signals lol
Yeah I got knocked out the other day . Dude hit me with a good combination. Before he slept me I thought ,” you think that was striking is?”. Dude Was an amateur.
Was this supposed to be profound or something lol?
Huh?
What's the question bud?
It was directed at Sandhagens explanation. Sarcasm.
@@BonySopraneaux Fair enough lol. Is he off on some stuff?
@@JREGreatestHits I wouldnt say he is off, I would just say he understands the stuff he is talking about as a concept in his head, but he articulated it very poorly. Im guessing its just random thoughts that he gets subconsciously through training, and its hard for people who dont train to know what he is talking about (my opinion at least)
@@GWilly-nf8ur yeah I got that vibe too lol. Whenever I try to explain a technique or break it down to a friend or even to a sparring partner, I just can’t seem to articulate it I have to actually act it out infront of them or else it just won’t make sense coming out in words. I feel like a lot of people that train have that problem sometimes too, he probably has the same issue.
Damn he's hard to listen to. Sounds like he's about to cry at all times, with cottonmouth.
lol look at chuck liddells remarks on head movement. no wonder he got knocked out often
What are Chuck's remarks? Don't do it? lol.
New age Dom. Cruz without doubt
Doms a weird one, that Jon Jones loss (that I think was a win) got him stuck in some weird place in the middle that he can't escape from. Imagine if he beats Jones that night.
Jesus, I just hit send and realized I made an entire comment about the wrong Dom, nevermind hahaha.
He is talking about distance, not space. I think they just smoked a blundt.
Space. Got it. 🫡
I wonder if Corey could guck Joe up. I'm thinking yes?
Oh yah I don't think Joe would argue with that.
*fuck
Lol I never even thought of that, I just accepted that guck was a word you could use in that situation.
This guy is talking 😴 😴 nonsense
Most people seem to understand it, what part do you think is nonsense?