Natural Beauty vs Cosmetic Surgery: Is There Middle Ground? | Middle Ground
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Id like to think the doctor just lives in his uniform in day-to-day life
Regular jackets are for people who didn't spend 8 years in medical school
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZE
I think the producers ask medical professionals to wear their scrubs/ work attire:)
We don't lol
ryanchampagne1 met students wear their white coats everywhere, it’s so funny but they should be proud, it’s not easy but you can tell they just wanna be asked, are you a doctor
Girls: don’t take offense to this
Me:*expects something rude
Girl: you’re gorgeous
Ikr. But I think she thought that she would get mad at her for saying it was easier for her to love her body because she was good looking because that makes it sound like she's invalidating her mental health. (Sorry if I typed that weird I'm not that good at getting my point across in text form)
@@WitchDetective you didn't type that weird at all! It made total sense to me, and I completely agree
The second line is usually the opposite for me lol.
People can be offended by compliments too. I appreciate how the girl acknowledged that before telling the other girl she was gorgeous.
@@WitchDetectivethat was put perfectly and I was going to say the same
i firmly believe that you can advocate for natural beauty while having zero issue with cosmetic surgery
ツatlas me too
That’s my perspective too! I can completely see both sides, I just know that having cosmetic surgery wouldn’t fulfil me personally
People who do plastic surgery are self obsessed
Meeeee ❤️ cuz I’m pro happiness and pro choice and all for self care.
That's a contradiction
How ironic people in the comment section are talking about how everyone should learn to love themselves and complaining about society being judgemental, yet mock and insult Nicole for her appearance despite the fact that she loves herself
Mhm
I agree 100%
Louder for the people in the back
Double standards smh
I think it’s because some people believe that getting unneeded cosmetic surgery means you truly didn’t love yourself *shrugs*
"You can be 50 and look 50, or you can be 50 and look like a 28 year old lizard" -bill burr
Ty Guy lmao
Love him XD
LOL😂😂😂
YESS!! I was thinking this quote the entire video
Ty Guy I mean, Nicole Kidman is in her fifties but she looks beautiful (and not lizardlike at all btw), I think she probably had cosmetic surgery done; anything that makes you feel beautiful you should do.
My mans actually wore his coat to this 😂
Nice catch👌
Bruh🤣🤣🤣
Second hand embarrassment 💀
Fatima Hernandez 😂😂😂😂😂
Viewers would doubt his authenticity otherwise.
Aging is a wonderful thing. We shouldn't try and stop it. It means you've lived
Livia E I wish more people thought like this.
Me too. Aging is just another stage of life! Not something we're supposed to avoid!
Yeah.. Every year brings more knowledge and wisdom.
I mean true until u look like a rasin 😭
But not sayin u it's just in general
“Aging is a gift denied to many.”
This really hit deep. I personally have never wanted to look younger than I am(maybe because I'm in my twenties that looks like a pre teen lol) but those words really are powerful. Many view that looking older than one is or simply being at an "old" age is seen as a negative thing when in reality, it's an observation of the gift of life to live for such years that unfortunately, many don't make it through many years
I know this is 3 months late, but I have a similar quote:
"Aging is a beautiful thing and a privilege some don't get."
✌🏾♥️🙏🏽
Let's be real - aging is not a gift. Aging makes us more unattractive on the outside and more bodily frail on the inside. It's obviously not a good thing.
@@frutigermetroboomin That’s not the point. Aging is a beautiful thing because you get to experience the world; the memories, the new discoveries you made, learning about yourself, relationships etc. Not all of us look at everyone for their appearance only 🙄
You know what I realized I love about these videos? There’s no pressure to draw a final conclusion. It’s just discussion.
one of the biggest flaws of modern debate is that it is Debate and not Conversation. I think in high schools (at least in America, I can't speak for other places) place way too much emphasis on Winning. I remember part of the learning experience included debating a side you don't necessarily agree with with the goal of winning, even if you didn't believe in it yourself. it's absurd.
@@frecklefreckles I completely agree. I personally saw a debate in my university and what I recognised was that the students in the debate tried too hard to win or at least, appear tough and decisive. Instead of achieving knowledge and understanding, they seemed more interested, or they were probably coached to focus on strategies such as finding the flaws of the opponents rather than understanding the different points of view.
Except for the vaccine one. Functioning people will draw the correct conclusion within 30 seconds of the video
I didn't even notice that before! It's so true!
Grace Power right, it isn’t about winning some argument
We should replace “I wish I looked like that” with “I wish I loved myself like that”
Daniela Achury this comment needs more attention👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
PERIOD !
Laura Avella aw thanks 🙏 that’s sweet
Aha
Optimistic and partially true. Most pretty people don't love themselves.
The girl with vitiligo isn't "cute" shes absolutely stunning.
Her red lips stole my hearts
@@77l96 you blind or something?
@@77l96 just shush
@@77l96 who do you think you are? you’re disgusting on the inside and unfortunately that’s what really counts.
@@77l96 why would I ever praise you. I literally don’t care what ppl look like and I don’t comment on it either. you definitely are jealous of her in some way-whether you know it or not. bringing someone down isn’t the way to go. you need to grow up and mature before you even THINK about leaving a comment anywhere.
This episode reminded me the greatest quote I ever heard in my life
"Even though I look like a burnt chicken nugget, I still love myself"
xD
YESSIR!
That’s the most amazing quote ever. 😆
@you're totally right working on it☺
Truly touching🤧💖
Nobody:
Plastic surgery moms: 👁👄👁
LMFAO
Lol
I can’t 😂😂😂
*I-* 😂😂
STO P IM WHEEZING
When your face no longer looks like your face, it's time to stop.
When your face no longer looks like A FACE, you should have stopped a long time ago.
lolev Just because it doesn’t affect us doesn’t mean we aren’t allowed to care. That’s like saying “Why do you care that they beat their kids it’s THEIR kid.” Or “Why do you care that they are injuring themself, it’s THEIR body.” People are going to care when something isn’t good for someone.
@@kiera1209 at first I sided with lolev, then I read this and now I can see it being the way it is both ways, thank you!
Kiera facts
It's how you feel. If I want to make my face look like Mark Zuckerberg's alternate lizard identity, why should I be judged for it? I'm not even kidding. But if it becomes a stressful fixation to impress anyone but yourself, I would advise that person to stop because I don't want to see others unhappy.
“I’m beautiful for making others feel beautiful”
Damn, that’s so *beautiful*
Lol
@@amosp9411 LMAO deadass died at this reply
I cried. I mean, if you're 45 and you're getting plastic surgery to look younger so your husband doesn't leave you, than it's your husband. She nailed that comment. We all have imperfections and that's what makes us beautiful.
Well he married her for something she doesn't have anymore. She married him for something he's still got. Not fair.
@@mostpassiveuser8904 He married her for her looks and sex. It's hard to pass up a 20 yr old with an as* like an apple, no sagging breast, no stretch marks (from the kids she provided him), plus that won't have opinion. I didn't realize how of a big deal it is until I started watching 90 Day Fiance. You could say it's just a show, but we all know it happens and the reasons why.
@@mostpassiveuser8904 how do you know she married him for money?
@@andiestone Exactly, marriage is for people that fall in LOVE with each other, otherwise it's just a shallow deal.
@@boi4367 Better?
0:38 “I’m a cosmetic surgeon in Beverly Hills”
This guy must be so rich he can eat his money for dinner everyday
He is cute, young, RICH, well-spoken, highly educated and classy. Mmm.. just perfect ;)
@@503zzach k....
stressfield it has begun
Ms. จารุณี you obviously want a rich young man to support your needs. Females these days
@@OnlyyCdot ikr
There should be no shame in calling men beautiful, too.
Edit: y'all really took this and ran far with it, huh.
Autumn Smith no one said that though...
@@marthab-c5226 lol IKR 🤷♀️
I was so happy that woman said that!!❤
Why would there be? I call men beautiful all the time!
Most prefer the word Handsome but essentially yeah we deserve compliments on our physical appearance.
i wish the conversation could shift from "everyone is beautiful and nobody is born ugly" to "sometimes you're just ugly and that doesn't make you less worthy of love and respect". telling someone who is insecure about their appearance that they're beautiful does absolutely nothing to help them overcome that, because the focus stays on appearance rather than their qualities as a person. if we could just take the power away from our external qualities and shift it towards the internal, i think everyone would be more relaxed. i don't always have to "look my best" i just have to enjoy life. go camping every once in a while with no mirrors anywhere, you'll be surprised to see how much better you think of yourself when you're not constantly reminded of your appearance or the pressure to look a certain way. it's kind of a pipe dream but oh well
Yea but unfortunately in this world, people like physically attractive people more, being physically beautiful comes with alot of benefits. Also its a biologically ingrained thing as well, humans prefer attractive people more than ugly people :/
But that conversation would be damaging too
- im so ugly
- yeah, but you are friendly :)
xD see how bad it sounds?
But who decides that you’re ugly? Someone could call you ugly but someone else could think you’re pretty
YESSSSS! THANK YOU!
You hit the nail on the head. For me this mindset helps immensely get over feeling shitty about the way I look. For others it might not be the right mindset. It’s so individual what both helps us and hinders is. Not black and white at all.
Why is no one talking about how respectful everyone was towards each other
We can talk 'bout it now 😉
I love when I meet people who are honest but manage to keep respect for one another. Nowadays, it’s likely that honesty can turn into bullying, you know? Opinions are shut down often and this channel really helps everyone understand everyone’s perspective.
@@mysticalcuriousities3610 yeah I completely agree.
Thank you! Some of these debates get so heated.
Having deformities is not the same as disliking your nose
Henny Bal Lector I feel this
a hooked nose is a deformity.
Nikolai Basic am I deformed 😱
Henny Bal Lector it still isn’t one..I don’t like my nose but i would never compare that to someone that actually has a deformity.
Body dysmorphia is a real mental disorder that need to be addressed more. Many people who go through great lengths and countless painful procedures to change their appearance may have it. It may not be a deformity but it is a mental health issue that people rarely talk about. Everyone likes to judge people for getting surgery but no one ever ask why they're that way to begin with.
The lady that lost like 150 pounds, I don’t find anything wrong with having a surgery to get rid of loose skin after her weight lost journey.
@@kennagilbert8 she's not wrong.
+ NEFEL She's not wrong. AND she's entitled to an opinion without you making assumptions about what she "took" from this video or didn't
edit: typo's
Right? Lmao i think its extremely dangerous to be an advocate for plastic surgery while looking like that
@@kennagilbert8 idk. It's pretty positive to take away that one can go too far
But its what she want to look like , and what she likes , and if she didnt like what she looked like before I'm sure she likes what she looks like now .
Everyone’s talking about hating a judgemental society but the same comments are shaming Nicola smfh
THIS.
@Arman The Doll lmAO you sure- 🤢
@@sol7476 Yeah I actually do find her pretty what do u have to say about that?
@@Tiffany-ov2jf get glasses
@@nela_7595 everyone gets judged deal with it. And you have a more right to be judged if it's an action you do by choice rather than if she was naturally like that. Now dont reply bevayse I actually dont want to argue lmao like fuck
I am dark skinned Indian (a country where fair is beautiful for women), i am quite healthy and tall and also curvy, my nose is very big and round, my lips are small and not at all pink, my hair is rough and black... And i have lots of things that do not match this toxic beauty standard . But i love myself. I am just 15 and i have mastered the art of self love and i always propogate this. Many people call me ugly or buffalo everyday but it doesn't matter anymore because i love myself. All that matters is my opinion and i accept myself. I hope that all the people start loving themselves and do not have to go through mental and physical torture to mach themselves with the beauty standard.
Thanks for reading. Have a nice day and love yourself!!
You are SO mature for your age at 15! I didn't even know the meaning of self love during my late teens when i needed it the most.😔 DO NOT listen or believe to those shallow comments even for a second. Know you are beautiful by God's Standard.😎
Sorry queen you dropped this 👑
@@edensirgu3191 BEST COMMENT
Lmaoo why do you have to mention "Curvy" tho lmaooo 😂....I don't know maybe it's just me but I found that kinda weird lol ..and also awkward since you are a minor ☠💀
@@edensirgu3191 ❤️
The irony.. People get plastic surgery to "preserve" the way they look, but they end up looking exactly like every other person who has had plastic surgery; and NOT themselves.
Achieved enlightenment
So true
Exactly
walinton not all people, with some people you can’t see the plastic surgery at all
Redgucci Shoes that’s cause they didn’t have dramatic plastic surgery
The girl with vitiligo is actually so beautiful.
I disagree that insecurity is inherent, beauty standards are societal standards
There are biological explanations for many beauty traits.
Yeah. No small children hate themselves or their looks until they've been told they're wrong.
Freja Havn false, that is the case because humans have evolved to believe in oneself until death, depression is the exception. Furthermore what we think is beautiful is evolution. Large glutes look good, because the glutes are used in running and everyday tasks, indicating athleticism. A big jaw for males indicates high testosterone. Muscles generally are attractive, but when a male is too muscular, your brain is designed to fear them, as you believe they are stronger than you.
I'm currently studying evolutionary biology, any questions, please ask
@@ethanbravin894 true.
@@ethanbravin894 what do you mean by "believing in oneself until death", im a foreigner so it might be a language issue but I dont understand what you mean by that.
If a man leaves you or cheats on you he didn't love you in the first place.
💯
idk about leaves you
It's not that he never loved you, it couls be, but it could also be that he didn't love or respect you enough. I don't really know which is worse.
“I am beautiful, not for my looks but for the things that I do” IM NOT CRYING U R 🤧
but actually tho that’s so inspiring
I really wish everyone could stop feeling the pressure to look young. Aging doesn't make people ugly in my opinion, like yes, some people might stop being attracted to you in the same way, but there is still beauty in wrinkles and grey hair.
Girl im a teen and i still look ugly
@@whatisgacha8188 I honestly think everyone has their own beauty. Not everyone can be considered attracted by everyone, but everyone is beautiful in some way. Instead of looking in the mirror and think about what you don't like in your looks, try to look into the mirror and look for things you do like. Might sound silly but it works for a lot of people, and it can help with confidence, and confidence is one of the most attractive things. Also I know your comment was meant as a joke but I can't help myself 😩 I just want everyone to love themselves💕
wait until you're old
@@yihaw149 it is very likely that I'll dislike the wrikles and grey hair but I also think my mindset about this is pretty set. Not everyone hates getting old and maybe I'll be one of those who don't really care.
Thank you! All this nonsense of people using cosmetic surgery as an attempt at "eternal youth and beauty," as though any measure they take will actually be permanent, really gives me a headache. I know it's the culture we live in and all, but shouldn't we all be able to love each other and ourselves as we are? Beauty "standards" are just trends, same as what clothes or music are cool.
god really gave vitiligo queen natural contouring like that
edit: omg thank you for all the likes !! also i didn't capitalize "god" bc i don't believe in god. no disrespect intended, i just meant it as a figure of speech.
God*
@@Daraling1 exactly
Dara Adeleke ?
My postman has vitiligo Gentle man
No god. Only ⚛
the comments: everyone is beuatiful uwu
also the comments: judging and commenting about the participants appearence
it’s messed up.
@@what-iw5dv Nothing's more messed up than Nicola's face.
Hotobu and you care why? It’s her face her business why are you in it
To be fair though, I'm pretty sure the people commenting negatively about Nicola are NOT the ones spreading body positivity. I wholeheartedly champion Nicola as much as any of the other people on that episode. Love yourself and be kind to others.
There is more then one person in the comments.?
I honestly love being called ma’am by younger individuals and I love that I’m getting older. Aging is a gift. I hope I live long. I don’t care if one day I’m no longer attractive to anyone because I live for my family and for myself.
Ive seen fairly beautiful older women before
Thats true maturity. Truth is she she's just using her age as one of her insecurity to have surgery.
yes, aging is great and swag and plastic surgery too, dont be disrespectful :)
@@rungistico9584 reread it again. I Disrespected no one. Spoke about myself... you ok?
I love that.
I wanna see an episode where someone switches sides mid interview.
Avery Seymour 😀
Avery Seymour same!!!!!!!!
I am waiting for that too
That has happened in the spectrum
ProJared did!! Lol
Why do people not understand the process of ageing? Everyone ages. It's tough but it's natural.
I somehow understand, aging means time is running up, means death comes closer. It is scary. Of course filling your lips and lifting your face doesn't stop that process. but if it makes them feel better let them do so
yeah its whatever, im not even 21 yet and im experiencing my hairline noticeably receding, but its ok
some people are too attached to themselves they wont give up
@@sosoki638 Well in your comment it says that ageing means closer to death. Even tho it's true you need to consider the amounts of car crashes, heart attacks, murders etc. there are. So in alot of cases age doesn't matter, it's all just luck.
Aging is fine a 50 year old woman can look great
Those two women bonding over recovering from bulimia was beautiful. Not the bulimia, obviously, but the bonding over recovery. And Nicola was very well spoken.
You can't tell me the cosmetic surgery field doesn't play off of insecurities
I don't care if you're a cosmetic surgeon, that's fine- at least admit it
Exactly .
People go and do surgery for the sole reason being their insecurities. Whether that's a nose job or excess skin removal . No matter what cosmetic surgery one gets , it's purely due to insecurities.
That's the ONLY reason.
yep it 100% feeds off the insecurities of mainly woman and woman of colour
@@queenb9668 okay so whats the problem its not affecting you
this is exactly like saying "the hospital industry benefits from injuries"
@@angel-jq5di I mean... it does. And off of disease, but hospitals aren't actively creating such things in order to profit. The cosmetic surgery industry DOES create problems by inflating insecurities with billboards, advertising, etc. for profit
“.. my name is tanesha, aka vitiligo queen” I WANT THIS CONFIDENCE. YES.
You can tell she really loves herself.
Same what a queen
Does that make me a vitiligo peasant?🤔
She's so beautiful and confident 👐
Anaïs You are a queen too. Just a different kingdom.
I was wondering why men look so good without makeup - then I realised that no one told them that they looked bad without it.
Edit: Yes, I do realise that men are judged for their looks and it can often be the opposite for them - they want to wear makeup but will be ridiculed for doing so. I’m just commenting about men who fit into the mould society sets for them.
Sim Singh so true
Larry McMyler ye
Idk about you but Ive never heard anyone tell a girl that she NEEEDS makeup though, like thats not something that people just go around saying. However what your saying does make sense.
👏👏👏
Rico Ealy I thought that for a long time, but then someone told me that many women aren’t respected in work if they don’t wear makeup because people think they are lazy and not put together. It’s less of literally being told to wear makeup and more of being told through actions
Loose skin is the worst! I can't imagine going through an entire weight loss journey only time be left with mass amounts of skin that can take years to get rid of.
Joyce s that’s why you work out too
@@Sevren_ even people who lose weight naturally can be left with loose skin if they lose a lot of weight at once
Joyce s then they suffer
@@Sevren_ Or get excess skin removed. Why do you care?
I'm sorry but Tanesha the Vitiligo Queen is gorgeous bye.
Don’t say they’re gorgeous until ur willing to date someone with vitiligo
@@hughjnus4256 what’s ur point? I would have NO problem dating someone with vitiligo. People with vitiligo are STUNNING. ur point of view is quite disappointing
@venerable asura yes she is, you’re clearly blind. There’s no need for you to be rude. She’s just expressing herself. Wtf
@venerable asura but I never said you should find her “stunning” too, I just said that you were rude to her comment, and that was her opinion. If she finds her stunning that’s on her. Don’t compare yourself with her, you can be stunning in your own way.
@venerable asura okay, perhaps I was rude with the blind thing, and am sorry for that. Anyways my intention is not to discuss.
people who get the typical brow(any) lifts, nose jobs, lip injections, etc constantly all start to look exactly the same. they have creepy skin, bubbly cheeks, and off-putting cat eyes.
sarbear agreed
amen
I agree
Okay, and why do you care?
So what?
Anyone else wanna see what Nicola looked like before all the cosmetic surgery.
Stephen Driller Knight I strongly believe that she would have looked better than she does now. So many people like Nicola go over the top and end up looking very unnatural.
Looking like Steven Tyler rn
Overdosed on vanity.
i bet she looks much more beautiful than now...
@@SushimaruRen who cares if she looked more beautiful. The thing that matters is of the herself is more comfortable of who she is now.
no one is born with insecurties tho, we are told to be.... by who? the cosmetic industry and beauty industry
I think it’s also just society and people comparing themselves to others.
It's actually cuz of society. A 10 y/o kid doesn't looks at the cosmetic industry and goes "oh there's this and that wrong with me" it's usually the adults that bring us down and tell us what we should be insecure about.
@@puthypicasso640 The beauty industry sets the standard, though, by influencing public opinion. Those adults grew up on certain messages fed by the beauty industry.
Our parents lmao
@@puthypicasso640 they do actually, many do. The beauty industry does not spare children - calling children ugly for multiple reasons is a problem from internet to kid's shows. And from there it goes to bullies.
Not a single man in there who talks about his insecurities in regard to the way he looks. That's really sad because those men also exist. In this, it looks as if beauty is a women's problem only.
Omg Thats so true
Because we generally don't care. It's usually women who battle a big deal about their appearances.
@@AJ-lm5dl That's nonsense. You have simply no idea what you are talking about and obviously no clue what other men think about behind closed doors.
Idgaf how I look I’m ugly af and idc 😂 I’m still in the mix
@Badbitchesonly Girls Which is the biggest problem
instagram really changed the perception on this subject to be honest
Ig models be like
Yeah so true thats why i stopped going on the explore page and also unfollowed some ig influencers (aka fashion nova chicks) . It was so unhealthy comparing myself i took a break from ig and i felt better about my natural looks
Instagram is a marketing platform for plastic surgery
I think people just need to understand how photoshopped and edited those photos are. Social media is a highlight reel.
Natural is beautiful
The thing is...
No one is born ugly
We just live in a judgmental society.
~ Kim Namjoon
(edit): I didn't think this comment would get THIS much attention! I forgot who made the quote, so thanks to the people who knew for informing me. Coming from a non-kpop fan, this man, Kim Namjoon, is very wise! I wish more people were like him.
I apologize if there are any typos, English isn't my first language. But I hope I got the message across clearly regardless!
our president is wise
kim namjoon
Brooklyn EXACTLY! I wish this was stressed more in this video. I feel like they were saying it’s healthy or acceptable to change yourself to be what other people expect you to be and that rubbed me the wrong way. People don’t need to be beautiful in order to deserve love or self respect
MaRiahh Tuner / Political-Makeup some people get surgery not for others/society but for themselves, because they aren’t satisfied personally with how they look
Ash Lynx I think it’s important to examine why you feel that way though… Is it because you think people around you have it and you don’t, or because somebody said something to you about it, or because you notice it’s just not like something that you like on someone else? I’m not saying I’m against plastic surgery, because I’m definitely not, and I think people should do whatever they want to make themselves happy. I just believe people should examine why they’re doing it first, and I think most people don’t do that.
Would love a part 2 that goes into men’s body image issues, since women aren’t the only ones who get plastic surgery or feel the need to change how they look.
same!!
"Do you wanna look 52 when you're 52 or like a 28-year-old lizard?" - Bill Burr
haha yeees kweeen lets bring eachother downn just for physical appearence and because its not right with YOU and not with them and you dont know theem YAAASS
@@rungistico9584 stop
@@rungistico9584 I mean, it's called common sense. Look at Donatella Versace and TELL ME that's healthy.
@@rungistico9584 bruh it's a Bill Burr joke. He's a comedian. Chill out
@@rungistico9584 Yaaaas!
Nicole is dead wrong... that mentality just reduces us to accessories. We are more than just our appearance. Sure younger me was a bit hotter but current me is far more accomplished, wiser and confident. I would not go back to my 20s
I wish i could go back to my 7's that way i dont have to give a fuck about anything and just fuck around all day
Agreed. Besides, maturity has its own appeal - the wisdom and confidence that comes with experience is so much sexier to me than physical appearance. Most people associate young=hot, but a lot of people actually get MORE attractive as they age.
jinx86 fr😂
It is not just to be beautiful. Some ppl get triggered to see their face older. And this affects their productivity. Please don't forget some people really care about their appearances.
@@bilgegunlu3229 I agree
I feel like there should be a middle ground for teachers/educators and students just for their outlook on the education system.
Or home educators (please not the lowest of the low, there are great examples) and teachers.
Eff, yea😊😋
One of my teachers from middle school told us he hated his job and literally did little to nothing in class he just gave us computers and told us to go ham lmfao
It would be cool to see a public school vs private school one!
The thing however, is that the teachers have no say in changing the school system whatsoever. that’s the school system and state law who can change school itself. So doing this middle ground situation with teachers and students wouldn’t make any sense mainly because most teachers agree that the school system is whacky and bad but are in it because they love teaching and want to educate, alongside the factor of money.
I have hyper-mobility syndrome, so I have these super wicked stretch marks on my back. It legit looks like I’ve been whipped. But you know what? I don’t give a crap! Honestly, it looks kinda cool. Most people probably wouldn’t think so but, I’m still me. Society says it’s ugly, but I say it’s beautiful so I’m all good.
If anyone asks , tell them your mistress punished you for breaking the rules. Please and thank you.
Hobestly thats weird
You just have some tiger stripes :)
tiger stripes are gorgeous :) 🐯🐅
@@chongahloi69 lol no stretch marks aren't weird
I see comments that say beauty is in the eye of the beholder, that no one is ugly and that it's just societal standards of beauty, etc. And then the next comments are insulting a woman for her looks. Y'all r pricks.
I will always sympathize with people who get plastic surgery because I know it most likely came from a place of deep insecurity and self hatred. Why would you judge people for that?
HYDRATED COW, MY HERO :D
u should never judge someone. but i in general find it so admirable if someone has these insecurities but still accepts this challenge to accept & love himself/herself the way he/she is. thats rlly strong🌻
The truth is that there are multiple other introspective ways to deal with insecurities. Cosmetic Surgery does not fix the problem, rather the consequence. If you have a tendency to hate parts of your body, you'll likely do it post surgery too. I'm not saying all patients are like this but a good chunk of them are. The only thing that needs to be done is to work on the mind first, then once the mind has been fixed one can truly think about surgery. And I think you'll agree with me insecurities foster more insecurity which is precisely why I'm against surgery as a ready solution, I would rather people use it as a last resort
I feel like the pro surgery people were using outlier examples of traumatic deformities instead of actually talking about the fact that most people get plastic surgery for frivolous reasons
They even say it before that a lot of women come in so that they’re husband stays with them 👁instead of maybe relying on themselves for support and getting a better husband?
@VKRGFAN where did you get that from? That is not true. Narcissistic Personality Disorder is a specific diagnosis that you are nowhere near qualified to blanket over such a large group of people.
Unnamed oh yeah yeah I approve of your comment all the way
Yeah but you can argue basically the same thing about people who are pro-choice for abortions, most of their arguments are that women get raped or get put into difficult situations when most abortions are basically just birth control. A lot of debates are like this.
Unnamed oh yeah yeah
Those women that she talked about, who worry about their husbands leaving them for younger prettier women, that says a lot. Those women put all of their stock into their looks and they are with men who only care about them for that reason. They married for money, not love. To me that is sad.
I know... I had to pause it and digest her comment.
It's actually so true for so many women. It's awful to think that...
Maybe the "problem" are the husbands? The pressure...
Michèle S but you also got to think about how those women did marry for money ? It’s both sides that play on each other .
A good cosmetic surgeon won't operate on someone like that. I've had my breasts done myself and have multiple friends who have had procedures done. A good cosmetic surgen will always go and dig in a person to figure out WHY they are doing this to themselves. A good cosmetic surgeon will and can turn down the wrong patient.
I kinda feel sad that Nicole feels that she need to still look young when she’s old. We all age, it’s the natural process of life.
Imagine how uncomfortable the doctor was
Maybe not uncomfortable, but out-of-place imo
The surgeon was lovely but more men should’ve been casted, women have crazy beauty standards to uphold but men have insecurities and are expected to look a certain way as well. Right now it looks like ONLY women feel insecure about their looks which isn’t true.
He probably went to film right after work
Woman are more insecure then men that’s why woman go trough plastic surgery more then men.
finally, someone said it
Chase 16
But men with insecurities still exist.
Chase 16 Women and men both have insecurities the same, women are highlighted more
I’m happy about my face . I just want to have nice skin.
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Me too, I realy hate my adult acne
Edit: I added "my".
Omg same
Preach girl
No like really 😫😫
Why can't people just let other people do smh if they feel happier with surgery, great, so happy for them. If they're happier with their natural look, awesome!
thank you!
It's not about "letting people do that they want" , it's about making sure they are in the right mindset for happiness. For some people surgery is just another excuse for happiness just as chasing money fame etc... Sometimes happiness is in simpler things and one needs to be reminded constantly of that.
If only it was that simple. You're forgetting about the people who think they'll be happier after surgery and end up spending the best part of their lives and a lot of money chasing an unattainable dream. Nicola herself admitted that a lot of women are trying to 'preserve' their bodies for their rich husbands. How can that be considered healthy?
I love how everyone in this one actually respected each other and agreed on a lot of stuff
Vitiligo is the most stunning condition. It makes people look like actual art.
Daniel Feds I full heartedly agree. Vitiligo is just such a beautiful condition. Like when she first walked in I was like wow. What a beautiful and unique person.
Yeah vitiligo is beautiful
I agree but i wouldn't try to glorify it either
It sometimes look cool, but it sucks so much that people think they can get it by touching you.
I have vitiligo and i hate it. People don't shake my hands on job interviews, many don't let their children near me etc.
I agree! But i kinda feel sad for michael jackson, he got vitiligo and yet people still bashing him for ‘bleaching’ his skin which he was clearly didnt.
Aging is part of life. People shouldnt be ashamed of the natural way they look.
@Dingus Dangus being content and desiring more are mutually exclusive things, no?
Dingus Dangus To be content is to lack desire. Those two terms are indeed mutually exclusive.
Filet Mignon is a type of steak.
Aaron Jefferson But what good is being content when you can benefit from improving your condition.
I feel like often times, those who try to reverse aging end up looking older
I agree. But society puts so much emphasis on youth and so many people feel obligated to look young. Ageism.
This really shouldn’t be an argument. It’s really just personal choice. If you want surgery, go ahead. Want to look natural? Sure! Yes the industry can exploit people and can be toxic but most industries can. You should accept yourself, but if you want to get plastic surgery to make that acceptance easier then go ahead. We should be working to break down why people feel insecure about themselves to the point where they feel this is necessary if they don’t really want to get surgery. It’s a big thing that we need to look and act and be a certain way, so we should be focusing on that before fighting an industry that allows people to accept themselves (usually), like when they help reconstruct people who were in accidents or to help with confidence.
Do not bring up people who go through accidents. Massive difference between that and an insecure old hoebag who turns herself into Dorris from Shrek.
@@925263 yup I agree
@@925263 exactly.
Find it disheartening the people saying “people should look the way they are and doctors should be ashamed for exploiting customers insecurities and ugly is a societally constructed idea” but then say the surgery advocate girl is ugly and the girl with red lipstick is pretty...... you’re doing exactly what you said was bad??
She’s not ugly she just has such a classic plastic surgery look that she almost doesn’t look human anymore
She’s not ugly at all; she just looks incredibly uncanny which is why so many people are put off by her appearance. Kinda like the human ken doll.
It’s her body and if she likes how she looks then all the power to her. But if she’s one of those types that are addicted to getting plastic surgery then she may need help. Contrary to popular belief being supportive is NOT always the right thing to do.
@@rebecadonadon5275 to you, thats your opinion and keep it to yourself, dont comment on other peoples physical images my god
@@rungistico9584 Oh I'm sorry it's almost as if this was the comments section OH WAIT-
The doctor is smiling cause he’s the only one getting paid that good money 😂
Trust me, the PA is making money too.
Uchiha 😂😂
Cosmetic Doctors That Work Specifically With Insecure People That Want2Change The Way They Look Are Just There2Exploit Those People!!
Cosmetic Surgery Lady:What If You Have A Big Nose,Think Lips,Or Pale Skin?? Wouldn’t You Have2Change4Da Societal Views No Matter How You Feel About Yourself?? Smart Girl:No!!
@@ryangemellaro2856 Exactly. He's a vulture pretending to be a nice person.
if only people on the internet could be this mature when expressing their opinions
Why would they
The Internet makes us feel big and powerful because we barely know them and we are not talking to them faced to face
Schfs Hchs Because hopefully they were raised correctly
shisuk that’s why I love this show
YESSSSS
Cosmetic surgery is not just for people who want to change something. There are people who need it. So to put the entire industry under the same roof is a bit weird to me.
It’s a generalization for a reason, there’s more people getting plastic surgery just to change things than there are people that actually need it.
If you put that as the condition, people would start hurting themselves just so they can have surgery for it
Please don't take this as disrespect.. but I'd honestly like to know :
Who 'needs' cosmetic surgery?
Please tell me.
I've never heard of such a bold statement. And it makes no sense.
Surgery in general for health issues , YES.
But *'needing'* cosmetic surgery?
For what?
There's no such thing.
Cosmetic surgery is to enhance ones looks , it is not to improve their health . So in what case would someone need it?
Sorry if I sound ignorant . I'd actually like to know .
@@queenb9668 example someone has such a small nose it's hard for them to breathe so they get plastic surgery to make it easier to breathe
@@queenb9668 someone born with small malformations...like i was born with malformation of my outer ear and the cartilage was not formed so my outer ear bent infront and its over protruding ears....i can hear perfectly but my ear hurts while wearing headphones, spectacles as its little over bent
I don't see anything wrong with getting plastic surgery or going natural. Not everyone has the privilege of being born into the a body they love and that's okay. People also don't have to get surgery to be beautiful because they already are. You can do whatever you want 💕
It’s complicated, though. Because there is no going back.
Loving your body isn’t a privilege it’s something you train and come to terms in time
@@currandero It isn't a privilege, but depending on who the people in your life are and how you grow up, you can love yourself ever since you are a child. But in this society, it's getting harder and harder to because of all that discrimination.
@@mysticalcuriousities3610 oh yes, discrimination and unhealthy standards. I know exactly what you mean
But thats the point, you have to learn to accept your body instead of changing it. Im just sharing my opinion i have nothing against people with plastic surgery tho!!
If your afraid of becoming the “2nd wife” because your wealthy husband might go off and find someone younger or “hotter” than you then I think the issue isn’t trying to get plastic surgery to compete, it’s the relationship...also you should not be competing with young girls when your middle aged. Everyone gets old and aging is beautiful. I’m not against plastic surgery but getting it in order to compete with a group you don’t even belong to doesn’t seem like a good idea at all
The sad truth is that wealthy men have all the options in the world. And if a girl married into that kind of wealth it would be kinda hard to go back imo. I'd likely do whatever I could to keep that position. It's really messed up...but that's kinda just how things are sadly.
They could leave and find someone who loved them for who they are. But that person may not be as wealthy or as desirable as the men who have the option to get a new younger wife on a whim.
Complex Ez because people love money?
Elijah Martin I’m not like that. As a female I’d rather keep my integrity instead of sell myself for some rich guy who doesn’t love me. Also, I plan on supporting myself I don’t ever want to depend on someone else financially
Right. Just don't sign that prenup and move on to the next guy when he starts humping some little young thang.
I find it hard to comprehend how you can be in a relationship where you aren't valued to the point you could be replaced like that.
It’s really disappointing that they kept mentioning only women within this video... women aren’t the only ones who have plastic surgery.
LeeAnn Eun but they are the vast majority.
@@symmylynn by a huge margin so its a true representative of how women are more fed these beauty lies/expectations to look a certain way
It’s cause men don’t give one and we’re not pussies
also that men have insecurities too, there should have been another dude
I made dis account 2 comment I dont Need no subs Most men don’t get plastic surgery, nor do they even think about it
I’m going to put it this way: although I do not find cosmetic surgery attractive, it doesn’t mean I will treat them rudely and judge them. As long as they are happy with themselves, I’m happy
I love how everyone is listening to everyone’s ideas and all them are being so nice. This is the one of the calmest ones I’ve seen!
This is genuinely sweet and not cut throat
Your comment got many likes and that’s tea
Personally I think that getting excess skin removal surgery or fixing a cleft palette is a lot different from lip fillers and botox. Excess skin and cleft palette affects everyday like for people, meanwhile having tiny lips does nothing to your everyday life.
Exactly. There are elective surgeries and more necessary ones. Burn victims and other trauma victims need cosmetic surgery.
@@leahwalker9151 And even if they don't NEED cosmetic surgery, it can help them heal emotionally and move past whatever terrible thing happened to them.
Agreed. When it does affect every day life, then cosmetic surgery is fine in those situations.
factsss
But for some people it does affect their everyday life. Dysphoria is a real thing that can take a toll on you.
Society: You should be happy with the way you look!
You: Doesnt get plastic surgery
Also Society: Damn... You should try losing weight....you should try this product for your pimples... Uhh her nose is so ugly
You: Gets plastic surgery
(Plastic Surgery makes you look better)
Society: Wow you look gorgeous... But you shouldve been happy with the way you looked! You are setting a bad example for young girls... You aren't beautiful its the plastic surgery
(Plastic Surgery Fail)
Society :Uhh.... She looks so ugly and old..... Look at her face
(Gets more plastic surgery)
Society : Damn the woman has had so much plastic surgery... She isnt beautiful
>Proceeds to make fun of their appearance while preeching others to be positive and happy
If you need to lose weight you could, you know, use the legit way? And the way that you wrote it didnt suggered people were judging you, rather suggesting ways to make yourself look better, help you
@@BigGainer98 Yes and no. Eating disorders are very deadly, and many people die losing weight. If you're too short or too tall, at least people don't look at you as a lazy slob because of it. Nobody tells you that it's your own fault you're short, and you should get tall or die trying. You know?
society sucks
Society does not care about anyone but we think everyone around is judging.
@@iwiilbe4329 fr jajaja
This is one of the most wholesome videos I've seen!! Every just wants to feel beautiful
this was the first time I watched a middle ground and didn’t feel stressed
Lmaoo yes!
RIGHT!!!
true lol
Audrey Violet SAME
Audrey Violet Yes, everyone seemed super chill.
This I think is the most peaceful middle ground i’ve seen
Edit: Thanks a lot for 768 likes that means a lot
Indeeed!!
2.3k....
Lmao how does some likes on a comment mean a lot ?
that’s what i thought! they were so calm and peaceful
2.6k
That group was sooo nice to each other! so satisfying
I've never felt ugly or needed plastic surgery in my entire 24 years. I feel that I'm so pretty and there are people who'd make fun of me because I feel like that, but I feel so pretty and I love my face and body and I don't care what others say or think
I don’t understand how it’s attractive to have your face not move when you talk. It looks so robotic
Exactly Lol
Ashley Berniche if u had commons sense that really does not happen kid
@@rs3331 Ikr lol
Some have a kink for that just as much as others love feet. As long as THEY think they're attractive, it's not another case that needs to be in the public.
As long as the person is happy, we shouldn’t be worrying about it
Never invalidate another person's struggle.
thats beautiful
Facts
Yes! They were talking about “Oh she’s so pretty, she must not struggle at all.” Which is so false
Claire Bailey exactly! so what would be the healthiest way of accepting and loving yourself?
surely not changing your appearance rather than learning to accept you! like, “oh ‘your’ nose is so beautiful” “thanks but i mean, it’s not ‘my’ nose”
i agree with both sides but i love how obvious who's on what side
I really like how in this debate it’s so even like usually it’s so aggressive and argumentative but this is just so genuine and just a conversation and they understand each other and aren’t just stuck in their own opinions
When you got a jubilee interview at 8 but have to be in the OR by 9
looooooool
Okay but this is honestly hilarious, you deserve way more likes 😭😂😂
LMFAOO I JUST GOT WHAT YOU MEANT OMGGG
When the goal is to look 'different' and 'young' and the result is looking like every other person is ironic.
Edit: thanks for the likes lovelies.
It was really beautiful to see these people genuinely connect from both sides. Probably one of the best videos on this channel.
People always tell me about buying creams, concealer, sleep, eat healthy because of my dark circles. It makes me sick to hear it. I know I have them, can’t even cover them with concealer. I recently got fillers, it’s still visible but it makes me so much happier because I can go outside without hearing any comments of asking about my wellbeing or drinking at night... it’s so sad, but society is one of the reasons I want to get a surgery in 3 years to get rid of them forever
i hate the plastic look. i think there’s something so beautiful about human naturalness. but to each their own. no judgement here- just a personal hot take 💕
People who get plastic all end up looking the same ( big lips, small nose,filler ect...) where’s the uniqueness in that?
Furious Angel it only looks the same in one nation it’s different for every country for sure
I hate the natural look. I think there is something so beautiful about the plastic face. But to each their own. No judgement here 😕
I feel like you kinda missed the point of the video
I for one find beauty in the plastic, and in the fillers. I absolutely adore it. I would never get it myself, nor do I think that is perfection, I just really appreciate both sides
IN MY OPINION:
Natural beauty side: they have learnt how to appreciate themselves, and how to be themselves, love themselves
Cosmetic beauty side: they take an extra step to loving themselves. they take action to make themselves more “perfect” under their own eyes. they are working towards self-love
both groups are valid. the only people who aren’t valid are the people who encourage the “no cosmetic surgery = not pretty” concept. Both groups have self-love, and self-love is key
this needs more likes
Striving for perfection doesn't come from a place of self-love. It's the people who never feel good enough who are trying to achieve perfection. A person who truly loves themselves and their body wouldn't risk the medical risks of getting cosmetics surgery, just to look better (temporary). Trust me, when you truly love yourself you don't care about society's beauty standards anymore. That's when you take action you live your best life, being your best self, giving value to society and stop caring about superficial things like beauty or other's opinions.
EXACTLY!
hoesmad 100% agree
So true. People can accept the way they are born and others don't. We shouldn't shame people for their type of self love.
This is probably my fav one in this series. Everyone was just lovely, nice and happy with each other.
That doctor is litterally sitting next to cash
The vitiligo gal is soooo pretty that lipstick suits her so so much what a queen
I think people with vitiligo are so beautiful. Like it’s an attractive trait for me for some reason. Like when I was 21 I remember wishing that I had it because I think it’s so beautiful. But at the same time I do believe in being comfortable in your own skin and self love
@@destinydunham103 i know, I wish Michael Jackson never fully bleached his skin to be honest
IKR!! it definitely complements her hair and outfit too!!
Isingsometimess yea! She reminds me of an elegant koi fish
Isingsometimess her lipstick compliments her skin so well! It gives her such a nice pop of color!
I'm genuinely amazed with this entire group. All of them had relevant things to say, all of them respected each others opinion and I really feel like I understand so much more of both sides, even the side that I was on before watching this video. Great job Jubilee for finding these people and providing such amazing content!
Absolutely, it brings warmth to my heart to see people talk about something respectfully and come out well informed and not feeling beaten up or worn down
@okay then that does that have to do anything?
@okay then And they all understand that body image is a sensitive topic among most women.
Im all for “natural beauty” but it should be on your terms and not just your “god given body”. If you feel more confident with a procedure, go get that procedure. If you feel more confident with a no makeup look, you go do that. You do you.
Yes we should teach people and let them know the importance to love what they have, but we shouldn’t make someone feel insecure for just wanting to feel more confident with themselves.
This!!!!
@cake well, it's not the case here, i suppose it can always help, but the person having it should see someone who can help them, if they receive the diagnostic, i suppose it's already the case.
It's nice how civilly they are able to talk about this.
In my opinion plastic surgery procedures is based on "one" type of beauty standard and it just produces copies of one person I feel like.
Well said
facts
I agree 100% usually people who undergo plastic surgery look similar not exactly identical but really similar looking features. But when it comes to natural beauty, diverse features stand out more and that's not a bad thing either.
True that
@@Kelvin-iy6vy Your comment just reveals that you're a degenerate
honestly this wasn't even tea. this was like sweet juice because they were all being so sweet to each other omfg😭😭
omg finn
You wanted beef 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@mvzv3913 Ikr
@@mvzv3913 I don't think he wanted beef, but at least more truth..more strength in that room would've been sooo good, but it almost seems like everyone was broken, weak, and poorly educated. Well, that's what I saw...
Sweet juice? You mean Koolaid?! ❤️🍷
This such a calm discussion from both sides!
When they walked in I knew who was on what side before they even said anything 😂😂