The Plastic Surgery Debate | Heather Peto, Julia Long, Miles Berry
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2019
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Should we embrace cosmetic transformation as a way of becoming closer to who we really are, or who we might wish to become?
We think being authentic is about remaining true to who we are, and many of us consider plastic surgery as a the preserve of tabloid celebritis rather than people like us. But from Caitlin Jenner to Chelsea Manning, plastic surgery is now seen as a means to ensure our bodies reflect authentic inner lives. Should we embrace cosmetic transformation as a way of becoming closer to who we really are, or who we might wish to become? Or should we be seeking to end society's obsession with appearance?
Julia Long: Dr Julia Long is a radical lesbian feminist activist and the author of Anti-Porn: The Resurgence of Anti-Pornography Feminism
Heather Peto: Heather Peto is trans activist and 2017 Labour parliamentary candidate for Rutland and Melton.
Miles Berry: Miles Berry is an aesthetic surgeon and one of the field leaders in reconstructive surgery. His expertise is in abdominoplasty, breast augmentation, face lift, blepharoplasty, mastopexy, breast reduction, secondary breast surgery, liposuction, labiaplasty and transgender surgery, as well as a host of other non-surgical treatments.
#transgender #cosmetic #beauty
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These topics have nothing to do with lesbians
Julia Long, the only one who spoke with authenticity. Thank you for you being you & tirelessly raising the issues against women again and again.
If gender identity/trans activism is all about simply "allowing people to present as who they actually are", Heather Peto, why on earth would they need or require plastic surgery at all?
Because a person who looks like a man in a dress will be assaulted in the street...
Plastic surgery, is a necessary tool used by transwomen to increase their level of security.
@@gaelleflorack3630 no because feminine men need to be accepted not converted
@@gaelleflorack3630 but they are men what’s a pretend vagina do
@@gaelleflorack3630 people get assualted in the street regardless of their gender all the time?
@@hospitalsgivingpatientsdan8894 no, they're not merely feminine men...they are men who feel like women. Feminine men have to find away to manage this hold being a man whilst having feminine attributes, but it's not the same thing.
Well done Dr. Julia Long. Sane perspective .
She most certainly does hold a doctorate.
Your ignorance is showing. You might want to stop now before you embarrass yourself further.
@stay home doh now you’re making less sense, the person above told you to stop before you embarrassed yourself even more
@G.S l do not need phd to know feminine man no woman
What an oxymoron," plastic surgery enabling people to be who they are" Is like saying that plastic flowers are really authentic"
Radiohead - Fake plastic trees
Gender is the cultural wing of male domination, male-dominated society.
~~Dr Julia Long
Except for the part where reality doesn't follow your perceptions.
😂
She is delusional
Julia makes so much sense. I can't believe anyone would think gender is an inner self and not something imposed on us by society and culture.
The guy next to Julia looks so confused and lost, like he's wondering why he's there!
Actually, I read his body language as projecting some real disrespect to Julia. He keeps his large body turned toward the other two men even while Julia speaks, as if either .pretending she's not there and trying to shut her out of their little in-group.Although perhaps he's more insecure than anything (perhaps), in the end his behavior is just really quite rude.
What endocrinologist Dr. Malone says is manipulating our physical reality to fit our ideas of it is utter hubris. He is polite. I call it nuts.
Who is Dr Malone?
Well done Julia Long! Pro Woman =/= anti-trans. Present however you like just stop telling people what they have to believe or say.
Thank you, Julia! Brilliant work!
Just because she doesn't want to have surgery, she wants other women to not have surgery "because it's dangerous".
How can waring makeup be empowering?? When it does, you bought into the lie that you are not good enough without it smeared on your face. You believe you need to be altered to more acceptable by society. I don’t wear makeup, and that is accepting of oneself and is also very freeing; saves a lot of time and money too, that I can spend on things I think are more important to me. I guess I have an different idea of what empowering is.i think self acceptance is more empowering than the angst of not being good enough without makeup on.
Wearing make up is high lighting your facial features actually.
That's you. Try being in other people's shoes.
Some trans women wear make up and change their bodies to feel congruent with their insides, its as simple as that. It's not about your relationship with make-up
I don't question whether I am my authentic self. I am simply me. I had a breast reduction 20 yrs ago, not to be my authentic self, but because my very real DD cup breasts were too large for my frame, physically uncomfortable, and required that nearly every dress I wore be subject to an expensive alteration at the tailor to fit. The resulting smaller breasts (my surgeon was a woman) didn't make me more authentic, just happier because my life was easier in every respect. Having a breast reduction was never about self acceptance; it was about being able to buy a $15 bra at Walgreen as opposed to an $80 chest harness at Macy's. I wanted to be able to go on a 10 miles run without developing friction burns on the underside of my breast and to be able to sleep at night without having to adjust my breast every time I turn over.
Great reply. Common sense 👍
Julie Long, what a brilliant women, great discussion! You have to ask yourself when society talks obsessively about "being yourself"and the solution comes through aggressive surgeries, who is getting the benefit?
According to the American Society of Plastic Surgeons (ASPS), almost 18 million people underwent surgical and minimally invasive cosmetic procedures in the United States in 2018. This total means that there were almost a quarter of a million more procedures in 2018 than in 2017.Mar 17, 2019
Wow! Julia Long is so inspirational!
I want to watch the full interview, unfortunately the one on the website loads very slowly.
You are your body, reality always bats last and when I'd listened to what all had to say I couldn't help agreeing with a lot of what Julia said compared with Heather.
I'm not even a feminist, but this woman is speaking pure facts.
Im pro plastic surgery and i dont like buying label clothes and label bags but i love plastic surgery, i prefer to spend on a filler than on a bag.
Julia Long is completely right.
Ok but does anyone looking at Red believe for one minute that he is a woman, or that kardasians but is no longer her own nor her lips nor her face for that matterfor that matter humans have an uncanny ability to playing sesame streets Which one of these things just dosent belong here. It dosent matter what you do to your body but to try and force everyone to co-sign and change the narrative of your own body dysmorphia into demanding we accept it is a huge endeavor. Wouldn’t it be easier to for an individual to take the hormones that match your genitalia, to accept the body you were born with as is. This is just sad, i cant help but feel that what the trans community wants is for everyone to accept their body dysmorphia it is so wrong in so many ways
why does miles look so confused
So strange that an issue of female exploitation has three men and only one woman … Definitely needs more female perspective and experience rather an male emotion and feeling
Oh, wow. Julia Long is sharp.
I don't see that there is such a thing as the patriarchy. But she is undeniablly outstanding.
She's brilliant.
She doens't want people to have surgery, because "Men will benefit". What sense did she speak?
Well the patriarchy exists
I'm guessing you watch porn? Jerk off to sex trafficked girls while convincing yourself they're doing it willingly. No patriarchy? Sure jan.
plastic surgery makes you more authentic?
I ❣️ JULIA LONG
Heather reminds me of Steve Coogan.
I always love when they invite men and trans women (that is, again, biological men) to speak about mostly women's issues. It's a miracle they even invited Julie...
The Host Speaker sounds like an English Ben Shapiro lol!
Thank you Julia
It's too broad...
its already bias from the start
highly qualified *white* people.
So long as we exist in a society of ascetics and sexuality we will attempt to objectify ourselves to the approval of the opposite gender (assuming we're straight).
Yes, and there is nothing wrong with that. We shouldn't have any Drs trying to interfere into us getting more beautiful.
So because women chose to have cosmetic surgery 9 out of ten times, this becomes a gender issue. Are we going to completely bypass the fact that they CHOSE to do it?
Ah, no... It's a "gender" issue because one of the speakers is a man who forces the rest of society to participate in his little "I'm totally a woman - honest, guise!" LARP on pain of possible prosecution. He's far from alone, for that matter.
@@lidahall5928 feminine men will never be woman
Ohhh these comments don't pass the vibe check. If you're not trans don't comment on trans bodies. That's it.
I’m trans masculinised woman aren’t men
OK, this solved absolutely nothing. Less than 15% of the time was the topic actually debated. TERF has a cool shirt, that's about it.
You're gross
@@paintitblack6728 LMAO
T.E.R.F. = transactivists erasing real females.
Truth Exposing Radical Feminist.
TERF is hate speech. TERF is a slur. You’ve been reported.