To bad Smith & Wesson will not bring back classics like these type of guns with a few upgrades like a rail. Image a 10mm updated to todays upgrades. Great video. Thank You
Meh, S&W's pisspoor attempt at a 10mm is the main thing that turned the FBI off of the caliber and rendered us 10mmophiles loony outliers in the gun community. Their continued reluctance to issue the M&P in the caliber makes me think they just want to stay with their .40 substitute caliber to the bitter end. I'm not too keen on S&W, as a result. There are plenty of enthusiastic 10mm gunmakers. No need to push S&W into something they already had a shot at and failed.
The issue with the 10mm that arose within the FBI had little to do with the performance of their S&W pistols. A number of agents found the snappy recoil of full power 10mm rounds to be a bit unpleasant. Eventually, this would lead to their adoption of the less potent .40 S&W round.
They can bring them back but they won't sell as many. Plastic is cheaper and that's what they sell. You want a real gun buy a Korth they don't use plastic yet !
Smith and Wesson should bring the model 659 back in it's Classic Line like they have done with their revolver line. A brushed aluminum frame ought to lighten the weight and be a welcome upgrade.
As much as I wish they would also, I know they won’t. Steel is expensive and they are making tons of money off polymer frame handguns, which are way cheaper and easier to mass produce. Even they brought back a limited run of these, I would be first in line. These firearms just feel more durable and remind of times when people didn’t cry about the extra ounces when carrying. Now everyone is soft and act like their body is going to give out if they have to carry a steel pistol all day.
Owned a 659 Smith for years...From day one it ran flawless with any factory ammo and was more accurate than 99% of shooters can manage to this day...I'll take flawless performance any day when the chips are down...
I'd like to add that I believe the ability to easily get into single action mode, without firing, simply by means of cocking the hammer, is an asset not fully appreciated by most shooters. In law enforcement, we are often trained to address either the long shot or the very precise shot placement during, for example, a hostage situation. Each of these scenarios requires single action precision shooting which striker fired pistols struggle to accomplish. Furthermore, the ability to de-cock the pistol and restore its safer double action mode is something else which striker fired pistols cannot accomplish. In other words, the DA/SA pistol is more versatile and more safe than striker fired pistols. Furthermore, my Smith 40S&W caliber pistol will outlive me and my grandchildren too! I'm not so sure polymer pistols will be so durable.
Love your comment steel guns are better then polymer guns - now they selling for the same price !!! Great video as usual from the Truth Teller of Weapons -
What I actually said was, "Polymer guns are not better than all steel guns. They are simply cheaper to produce. (But I like the way you think I said it. 😉)
My first semi-auto was a S&W SW40F. When I bought it in the mid-1990s, right when they came out, it was the new thing. I was a S&W fan. My first handgun was a S&W 629 Classic with which I have taken a lot of deer. My father was also from the Springfield, MA area. So, I wanted a S&W. The thing about the SW40F was that it was the new thing in the new caliber. Remember the craze for the .40 S&W cartridge at the time? I really liked the metal frame S&W semi-autos, but the SW40F was about half the price. Another consideration. Frankly, it has worked out fine for me, although I now have lots of other handguns. I have been seeing lots of 59 series and even 69 series S&Ws on sites like Aim Surplus lately. I am really considering it.
I agree The smith & Wesson 1st 2nd and 3rd generation pistols are awesome And definitely under rated these days. I have a 59, 659, 469 nickel, 645, 6906 and a 1006. Anytime I see one of these I buy it if I can. I truly believe these are going to become collectible in the near future and I think the prices will reflect that.
All these old metal frame Smiths fetch a good price now. More than a new M&P, depending on condition. I have a mint 915 passed down from my uncle. It’s a keeper.
I am a big fan of the S&W "All Metal" autos, I currently have a 1st generation model 59, three 2nd generation guns including a model 645, a 469 and a 459 that I inherited from my Father who got it new in 1989.
Been waiting to come across a surplus lot or a good deal on a used one of these or more specifically this guns successor the 5906. Solid and classic guns.
Call it like it is - they promote and manufacture polymer pistols because they're cheaper to make and they can still demand a high price. But, your last line on handling and shooting an all steel pistol making you feel a little better about things was priceless.
I had a 659 for years sold it when I got out of nine, Fast forward back into nine and I found a new in box 5906 with 3 S&W 15rnd stainless mags....Happy Camper I'll never sell it.
Back in the 90’s I carried one while serving in an auxiliary police role. Being a dyed in the wool .45acp guy, I was not impressed by the nine millimeter cartridges at the time. Eventually I traded it away for something else. Wish now I had kept it, of course.
My go to pistols: Bersa.380ACP, Beretta 92LTT 9mm, SW 4013TSW .40S&W are all DA/SA. I like this type of action and practicing with one is good for the others. Though my SW4013 is SS Slide/BBL and alloy frame, I have put thousands of .40SW through it. Same goes for the other two. All are my carry choices, and the Beretta is my sporting steel choice as well. These are awesome guns, and I believe they are superior to the "Plastak" version. Thanks for sharing.
A friend one mine called me one day. A neighbor had died and his wife wanted to get rid of her husband's handguns. She didn't want any money, she said, just get them out of my sight! So I picked up three handguns and two rifles, which I sold, one for about a grand and the other for $760. The handguns were a S&W 36, a S&W 6906 9mm and a brand new Browning Hi-Power. I still have all three and none of them looked like they've been fired. Both autos came with extra magazines and this before they started making 10-shot mags, the sale of hi-cap mags are now banned in my state. Talk about the blessings of heaven falling from above! I love S&W autos, and now have, besides the 6906, two 659s which I only fired one once, a 5906, 3906 and 645, the last I got from my dad. When I die, I'm going to leave them to people I like. The Smiths are great guns and were they to make 659s and 5906s today, the prices would top a grand. The price of steel and workmanship today are such that most companies are just making plastic guns. I've never liked the Colt .45 autos much and think the 659 are far better designed. I've seen the Colt .45s jam on occasion, but I've just never seen a Beretta 92, or S&W 659/5906 jam. In the first military tests years ago, the Beretta (which I also have) jammed on an average of once every 2,000 rounds, and the 459 jammed on an average of once every 952 rounds, and these when dirty and subjected to harsh environs. The Colt GI issue, which nitwits like Jeff Cooper wanted to keep in the military, jammed so often they couldn't keep records on! There Beretta suffered from slide failures due to metallurgical problems. And Taurus, which made Beretta clones, actually had better metallurgy in its slides than the damn Beretta! People who own these S&W autos (and non-military Berettas) should treasure these older guns. Especially the 659. I like it better than the 5906, in fact.
One thing i thought you would surely bring out in the video is the recessed slide stop pin cut on the right side of the firearm. Small details like this that S&W paid attention to makes this rank up there on the tail end of my list of all metal wonder 9's, included in that list of course is the CZ-75B, Browning Hi-Power, Ruger's P Series & Walther P-38. I appreciate their contribution to the gun world! Sidenote: I'm interested in your opinion of the new XDM10 ELITE COMPACT just released. Got it last Saturday, installed dragonfly red dot this Friday, and absolutely love it as a compact 10mm!!! I have other 10mm's but this is pure AWESOME power in a compact format.
I had a "interm" model with some 3rd gen features on it. Like 3rd gen sights, 3rd gen one-piece wrap around grips and it did not have the bushel bearing, but the pistol was marked 659.
Try 200 grain lead round nose ! That is what I shoot in mine and I get lots of bullseye's ! It's what granddaddy use and he was a police officer back in the 1940s
Thank you for explaining the whole plastic scenario. For the price I'm getting these.. I do like the Turkish made da/sa generic pistols, excellent price points. To me those plastic guns click like a 110 camera. Showing my age with that sentence.
The only thing I dont like about these types of S&W models is that Phillips head screw they use on the safety, makes it look like some one replaced it from a hard ware store
Acquired one from my uncle, have to clean it up and replace grips. Which grips are those as I’d like to stick with the black rather than wood hogue grips
I love this series of Smith and wesson semiautomatics. I bought the 5906 first and lucked into a 659 recently. A bulldog of a pistol and dead reliable. Wouldn't trade them for 50 polymers. Outside of weight reduction, polymer guns just don't appeal to me.
@@benjimenfranklin7650 the only polymer gun I've ever bought, was a SCCY gen2. It was ok reviewed very well, is accurate and SCCY even sent me a missing magazine. However being not whatsoever my cup of tea, it's been given to a good friend
I would welcome the older designs but now that polymer frames and stamped steel have become the accepted norm and people are willing to pay as much or more than we were paying for all steel or steel and aluminum just imagine what S&W would charge to make the 659 or the 5906. The forged or cast frames and machined inner parts would probably make them more expensive than the average person could afford.
How much would it cost S&W to produce the 659 today? I see 1911s selling for more than a grand. Clearly, the 659 would not command that today; however, producing one might be an otherwise different proposition. I simply hate striker-fired pistols. I'm leery of using a plastic automatic that has the same basic design that my Raven .25ACP and Jennings J-22. Yes, they go bang every time I use them, but I just like my guns to have hammers. The 659 has all the bells and whistles, but if you have one that's never been fired (like one I have), it is quite clunky. Shoot it fifty to 100 times and it starts settling in, and some recommend 200 rounds. My other S&W autos are nice and smooth. I suspect it would be prohibitively expensive even if (or especially) if sold in large quantities today. It has all the features a double-action Colt .45 would have.
Yes, handguns like this are somewhat expensive to make. Not as profitable to manufacture when compared to polymer guns - so no, you won't ever see these being made again. 😢
While I'm not a fan of stainless steel guns (it's a personal thing, just don't like the look) I will mirror your statement regarding all metal frames. Nothing feels as good in my have as a CZ 75 does, I don't care what it's up against.
I had a progenitor of the 659, a 459. Anodized aluminum frame and blue steel slide. I blame myself and buying cheap ammo for its poor accuracy. I was happy to be rid of the 9mm and get .45 ACP in a 1911 design. I also went for a Smith in .45, the next generation, 4506 DA/SA. It's with me six days a week. I wouldn't call it a tack driver, but I do much better with it than I could with the 459.
I carried a Smith and Wesson model 5906 (DAO as per the NYPD) My Lord, I HATED that freaking handgun. Way to heavy and nothing special about it. It was not more accurate than my Hi-Power, Sig 226, Colt Government and Commander. I did change over to a Glock 19 (and I am not a fan !!) after a short time. **** I am not saying that it's not a robust firearm or it was lacking in quality. WHAT I'm saying is that it's needlessly heavy for a duty weapon. The 9mm does not have appreciable recoil, so the weight factor is not appropriated. ** The Smith M&P is BETTER than the 59 series and much more comfortable than the Glock. Just my opinion
@@Icarryone - Yes sir, it certainly has. My first job, at 16, was in John Jovino's (go and look that up). I've been involved with firearms realistically, all my life. Like you, Glocks (though wonderfully reliable) deserve the moniker of "combat tupperware". Being objective, the Smith 59 series has lousy ergonomics. The 39/52 series feels phenomenal. I've done my time in uniform. I'm no longer running towards gunfire. Now, I've reverted back to a 1911(Sig model RCS). I now live off a dirt road, comfortably away from a big city.
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Built like a tank and runs like a champ
Yeah buddy!
To bad Smith & Wesson will not bring back classics like these type of guns with a few upgrades like a rail. Image a 10mm updated to todays upgrades. Great video. Thank You
I would love a 1066
Meh, S&W's pisspoor attempt at a 10mm is the main thing that turned the FBI off of the caliber and rendered us 10mmophiles loony outliers in the gun community. Their continued reluctance to issue the M&P in the caliber makes me think they just want to stay with their .40 substitute caliber to the bitter end. I'm not too keen on S&W, as a result. There are plenty of enthusiastic 10mm gunmakers. No need to push S&W into something they already had a shot at and failed.
@@texasbeast239 the Sig P220 is close to it, but it might have been nice to see what they would come out with. More 10mm pistols is always better.
The issue with the 10mm that arose within the FBI had little to do with the performance of their S&W pistols. A number of agents found the snappy recoil of full power 10mm rounds to be a bit unpleasant. Eventually, this would lead to their adoption of the less potent .40 S&W round.
They can bring them back but they won't sell as many. Plastic is cheaper and that's what they sell. You want a real gun buy a Korth they don't use plastic yet !
Smith and Wesson should bring the model 659 back in it's Classic Line like they have done with their revolver line. A brushed aluminum frame ought to lighten the weight and be a welcome upgrade.
I emailed Smith & Wesson asking the same thing. Email them to keep the demand going.
Yeah, I'll go along with this! 👍
As much as I wish they would also, I know they won’t. Steel is expensive and they are making tons of money off polymer frame handguns, which are way cheaper and easier to mass produce. Even they brought back a limited run of these, I would be first in line. These firearms just feel more durable and remind of times when people didn’t cry about the extra ounces when carrying. Now everyone is soft and act like their body is going to give out if they have to carry a steel pistol all day.
I think this process is going to start with a new CSX and go from there..
Yes thank you I thought I was the only one. There is so many old school semi auto s&ws i would buy.
Picked one of these up 5yrs ago for $450. Still my absolute favorite.
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You have to admire the quality and craftmanship of the old school handguns
Totally agree!
The 659 abd 5906 used to be my dream pistols as a child in the 90s.
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I still enjoy my all steel handguns over the polymer ones. Yes i do shoot both types and dont own a 1911
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Awesome《☆》I had a chance to buy a 659 from a Buddy about 10 years ago. It was his Dads NYPD service pistol. I have a Kahr MK9 that I like alot🖖🤓🏈
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Owned a 659 Smith for years...From day one it ran flawless with any factory ammo and was more accurate than 99% of shooters can manage to this day...I'll take flawless performance any day when the chips are down...
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Another well appreciated video and discussion.
Thank you!
I'd like to add that I believe the ability to easily get into single action mode, without firing, simply by means of cocking the hammer, is an asset not fully appreciated by most shooters. In law enforcement, we are often trained to address either the long shot or the very precise shot placement during, for example, a hostage situation. Each of these scenarios requires single action precision shooting which striker fired pistols struggle to accomplish. Furthermore, the ability to de-cock the pistol and restore its safer double action mode is something else which striker fired pistols cannot accomplish. In other words, the DA/SA pistol is more versatile and more safe than striker fired pistols. Furthermore, my Smith 40S&W caliber pistol will outlive me and my grandchildren too! I'm not so sure polymer pistols will be so durable.
Love your comment steel guns are better then polymer guns - now they selling for the same price !!! Great video as usual from the Truth Teller of Weapons -
What I actually said was, "Polymer guns are not better than all steel guns. They are simply cheaper to produce. (But I like the way you think I said it. 😉)
Think so go buy a CZ shadow 2 and see how the old wallet looks !
Polymer sucks! 😫
I was issued one back in1989, a fantastic pistol.i love them all both polymer and steel.
Same here!
My first semi-auto was a S&W SW40F. When I bought it in the mid-1990s, right when they came out, it was the new thing. I was a S&W fan. My first handgun was a S&W 629 Classic with which I have taken a lot of deer. My father was also from the Springfield, MA area. So, I wanted a S&W. The thing about the SW40F was that it was the new thing in the new caliber. Remember the craze for the .40 S&W cartridge at the time? I really liked the metal frame S&W semi-autos, but the SW40F was about half the price. Another consideration. Frankly, it has worked out fine for me, although I now have lots of other handguns.
I have been seeing lots of 59 series and even 69 series S&Ws on sites like Aim Surplus lately. I am really considering it.
These were great handguns, I wish Smith would bring them back. Great video.👍🇺🇸
Yes, that would be cool.
Another awesome video Icarryone!Thanks Slim.
My pleasure Slim!
Nice piece!👍🏽😀❤️🇺🇸
It is indeed!
This makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. Thanks!
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Love my 59👍
Yeah buddy!
thanks for sharing that fine pistol sir
My pleasure!
love your channel. Thank you
Glad you enjoy it!
Did exactly what you stated about a week ago. Threw my 910s in the bag to shoot with my other plastics. Man I love that gun!
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Fine pistol. They should get this one back.
Agreed. 👍
What a nice gun!
It is indeed.
Wish i can find one. Your collection is incredible sir. It just cannot get better.
I keep adding and refining it all the time. It's just my thing, I suppose.
I agree The smith & Wesson 1st 2nd and 3rd generation pistols are awesome And definitely under rated these days. I have a 59, 659, 469 nickel, 645, 6906 and a 1006. Anytime I see one of these I buy it if I can. I truly believe these are going to become collectible in the near future and I think the prices will reflect that.
At some point in the future, they will become more collectable.
I like mine it's very accurate too.
Just before my time.....when we transitioned from revolvers....my 1st semi was the off spring of these.....the 5906
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Love my 39-2!
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Very nice! I had my 4006 TSW out yesterday. She's an old CHP trade in. Such a sweet shooter!
Yes, excellent well made handguns from days gone by. 👍
All these old metal frame Smiths fetch a good price now. More than a new M&P, depending on condition. I have a mint 915 passed down from my uncle. It’s a keeper.
I am a big fan of the S&W "All Metal" autos, I currently have a 1st generation model 59, three 2nd generation guns including a model 645, a 469 and a 459 that I inherited from my Father who got it new in 1989.
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I really enjoy your channel, wish you would put out more content. Thanks for the look on this beautiful Smith & Wesson
I try to upload as often as time permits.
@@Icarryone I totally get it. Life is busy
I love the design of that rear sight,ears protect it ,much higher profit margin in a polymer,expensive to make a fine gun like this....
True! The higher manufacturing cost became their demise.
Been waiting to come across a surplus lot or a good deal on a used one of these or more specifically this guns successor the 5906. Solid and classic guns.
Keep looking - there are a few out there yet to be discovered.
I have this model 659 in BG. KY looking to sale or trade.
Call it like it is - they promote and manufacture polymer pistols because they're cheaper to make and they can still demand a high price. But, your last line on handling and shooting an all steel pistol making you feel a little better about things was priceless.
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I had a 659 for years sold it when I got out of nine, Fast forward back into nine and I found a new in box 5906 with 3 S&W 15rnd stainless mags....Happy Camper I'll never sell it.
Back in the 90’s I carried one while serving in an auxiliary police role. Being a dyed in the wool .45acp guy, I was not impressed by the nine millimeter cartridges at the time. Eventually I traded it away for something else. Wish now I had kept it, of course.
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Yes sir, I agree with you 100%. I am sure hoping Springfield decides to produce the SA-35 in stainless!
You and me both!
First one here!!! November 6th 2021 see ya in the future!
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That's a beauty! One might say, "ya buddy"... :-)
Definitely!
Love the old steel smith guns. I have 2 ... 4013 and 5906
Excellent!
Yes. Before the polymer guns there were metal guns. I am lucky having experienced the 70s, 80s, and 90s handguns. Some good guns came and went.
Sadly true about the came and went part.
My go to pistols: Bersa.380ACP, Beretta 92LTT 9mm, SW 4013TSW .40S&W are all DA/SA. I like this type of action and practicing with one is good for the others. Though my SW4013 is SS Slide/BBL and alloy frame, I have put thousands of .40SW through it. Same goes for the other two. All are my carry choices, and the Beretta is my sporting steel choice as well. These are awesome guns, and I believe they are superior to the "Plastak" version. Thanks for sharing.
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A friend one mine called me one day. A neighbor had died and his wife wanted to get rid of her husband's handguns. She didn't want any money, she said, just get them out of my sight! So I picked up three handguns and two rifles, which I sold, one for about a grand and the other for $760. The handguns were a S&W 36, a S&W 6906 9mm and a brand new Browning Hi-Power. I still have all three and none of them looked like they've been fired. Both autos came with extra magazines and this before they started making 10-shot mags, the sale of hi-cap mags are now banned in my state. Talk about the blessings of heaven falling from above!
I love S&W autos, and now have, besides the 6906, two 659s which I only fired one once, a 5906, 3906 and 645, the last I got from my dad. When I die, I'm going to leave them to people I like. The Smiths are great guns and were they to make 659s and 5906s today, the prices would top a grand. The price of steel and workmanship today are such that most companies are just making plastic guns.
I've never liked the Colt .45 autos much and think the 659 are far better designed. I've seen the Colt .45s jam on occasion, but I've just never seen a Beretta 92, or S&W 659/5906 jam. In the first military tests years ago, the Beretta (which I also have) jammed on an average of once every 2,000 rounds, and the 459 jammed on an average of once every 952 rounds, and these when dirty and subjected to harsh environs. The Colt GI issue, which nitwits like Jeff Cooper wanted to keep in the military, jammed so often they couldn't keep records on! There Beretta suffered from slide failures due to metallurgical problems. And Taurus, which made Beretta clones, actually had better metallurgy in its slides than the damn Beretta!
People who own these S&W autos (and non-military Berettas) should treasure these older guns. Especially the 659. I like it better than the 5906, in fact.
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One thing i thought you would surely bring out in the video is the recessed slide stop pin cut on the right side of the firearm. Small details like this that S&W paid attention to makes this rank up there on the tail end of my list of all metal wonder 9's, included in that list of course is the CZ-75B, Browning Hi-Power, Ruger's P Series & Walther P-38. I appreciate their contribution to the gun world!
Sidenote: I'm interested in your opinion of the new XDM10 ELITE COMPACT just released. Got it last Saturday, installed dragonfly red dot this Friday, and absolutely love it as a compact 10mm!!! I have other 10mm's but this is pure AWESOME power in a compact format.
Agreed. As to your side note - I haven't had a chance to take a look at one of those yet.
I had a "interm" model with some 3rd gen features on it. Like 3rd gen sights, 3rd gen one-piece wrap around grips and it did not have the bushel bearing, but the pistol was marked 659.
That's odd!? Wonder if someone had a later generation slide adapted to a 659 frame?
They are truly a classic. If you can find one buy it.
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I have a S&W 457. It's a compact 45 ACP. Bought it used in 2005. Also, the Phillips head screw looks weird on a gun.
That screw is original equipment and does it's job rather well.
Great video
Just did some target practice with my Colt official police, shots were a bit high but still got a good group.
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Try 200 grain lead round nose ! That is what I shoot in mine and I get lots of bullseye's ! It's what granddaddy use and he was a police officer back in the 1940s
Mr. Pink's gun in reservoir dogs
Thank you
You're welcome!
Thank you for explaining the whole plastic scenario. For the price I'm getting these.. I do like the Turkish made da/sa generic pistols, excellent price points. To me those plastic guns click like a 110 camera. Showing my age with that sentence.
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********** I agree with you 100% I do own the 669 Same, but aluminum frame !! :-) :-) ***********
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Yes mine is a bit older I think it has different sights and a round trigger guard. It the most accurate hand gun I have ever had.
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I have had a 659 since new. Love it. Excellent pistol.
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While I don't own any S&W automatics, all of my 9mm's are all metal, DA/SA, hammer fired pistols.
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Smith and Wesson brought back a 10mm recently 2 days ago. They did it with M&P 2.0 10mm, it comes in a 4 inch and 4.6 inch barrel
I'm going to look into that a little bit.
The only thing I dont like about these types of S&W models is that Phillips head screw they use on the safety, makes it look like some one replaced it from a hard ware store
That screw is OEM and it's been doing the job for decades.
would love to have one of these stainless babies
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Thank you for saying what I been telling. Polymer isn't better, just cheaper. And now this high dollar plastic is almost the only guns beings made
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In the 25 years I've owned one it's never jammed, misfired, failed to eject, etc.
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Reminds me of the 5906 I used to have.
Yes, they were similar.
Acquired one from my uncle, have to clean it up and replace grips. Which grips are those as I’d like to stick with the black rather than wood hogue grips
I love this series of Smith and wesson semiautomatics. I bought the 5906 first and lucked into a 659 recently. A bulldog of a pistol and dead reliable. Wouldn't trade them for 50 polymers. Outside of weight reduction, polymer guns just don't appeal to me.
For a while I was collecting 2nd and 3rd Gen Smiths in 9mm
I have kept my 469, 669, 3904 and 3906
I Will Not Buy Anything Polymer
I know a lot of people who feel the same way.
I had a few polymer (plastic) guns and they did not impress me at all. They are mostly ugly and don't have the prestige of a all metal and wood gun .
@@benjimenfranklin7650 the only polymer gun I've ever bought, was a SCCY gen2. It was ok reviewed very well, is accurate and SCCY even sent me a missing magazine. However being not whatsoever my cup of tea, it's been given to a good friend
3914 is my edc
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With Beretta's success in revitalizing and reviving the 92 series, you'd think Smith and Wesson would do the same with their 6000 series.
I wish they would.
I would welcome the older designs but now that polymer frames and stamped steel have become the accepted norm and people are willing to pay as much or more than we were paying for all steel or steel and aluminum just imagine what S&W would charge to make the 659 or the 5906. The forged or cast frames and machined inner parts would probably make them more expensive than the average person could afford.
You would likely be looking at a $1000.00+ price point.
A fool and his money are soon parted !
@@Icarryone I agree. Lots of high quality machined parts are expensive to produce
Plastic Fantastic prices are high now a days for sure.
Agreed!
Which one considers better pistol, the 659 or the 5906. Your opinion would help me a lot
I personally favor the 659.
Thank you so much for answering my doubt. I wanted to know your valuable opinion because I'm after a 659 very soon
Haha I start feeling better with steel in the hand as well sir
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My first pistol when I turned 21. Like a dummy I traded it. 😣
Oops!
How much would it cost S&W to produce the 659 today? I see 1911s selling for more than a grand. Clearly, the 659 would not command that today; however, producing one might be an otherwise different proposition. I simply hate striker-fired pistols. I'm leery of using a plastic automatic that has the same basic design that my Raven .25ACP and Jennings J-22. Yes, they go bang every time I use them, but I just like my guns to have hammers.
The 659 has all the bells and whistles, but if you have one that's never been fired (like one I have), it is quite clunky. Shoot it fifty to 100 times and it starts settling in, and some recommend 200 rounds. My other S&W autos are nice and smooth. I suspect it would be prohibitively expensive even if (or especially) if sold in large quantities today. It has all the features a double-action Colt .45 would have.
Yes, handguns like this are somewhat expensive to make. Not as profitable to manufacture when compared to polymer guns - so no, you won't ever see these being made again. 😢
This pistol is a american tank I like it
While I'm not a fan of stainless steel guns (it's a personal thing, just don't like the look) I will mirror your statement regarding all metal frames. Nothing feels as good in my have as a CZ 75 does, I don't care what it's up against.
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I had a progenitor of the 659, a 459. Anodized aluminum frame and blue steel slide. I blame myself and buying cheap ammo for its poor accuracy. I was happy to be rid of the 9mm and get .45 ACP in a 1911 design. I also went for a Smith in .45, the next generation, 4506 DA/SA. It's with me six days a week. I wouldn't call it a tack driver, but I do much better with it than I could with the 459.
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I wish I had never sold my 645. But the Ruger P-90? Good riddance.
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En español
Mi español no es tan bueno.
I carried a Smith and Wesson model 5906 (DAO as per the NYPD)
My Lord, I HATED that freaking handgun. Way to heavy and nothing special about it.
It was not more accurate than my Hi-Power, Sig 226, Colt Government and Commander.
I did change over to a Glock 19 (and I am not a fan !!) after a short time.
**** I am not saying that it's not a robust firearm or it was lacking in quality. WHAT I'm saying is that it's needlessly heavy for a duty weapon. The 9mm does not have appreciable recoil, so the weight factor is not appropriated. ** The Smith M&P is BETTER than the 59 series and much more comfortable than the Glock.
Just my opinion
Taking all into consideration, the firearms market has indeed changed quite a bit since these handguns were first introduced - several decades ago.
@@Icarryone - Yes sir, it certainly has. My first job, at 16, was in John Jovino's (go and look that up). I've been involved with firearms realistically, all my life. Like you, Glocks (though wonderfully reliable) deserve the moniker of "combat tupperware". Being objective, the Smith 59 series has lousy ergonomics. The 39/52 series feels phenomenal.
I've done my time in uniform. I'm no longer running towards gunfire. Now, I've reverted back to a 1911(Sig model RCS). I now live off a dirt road, comfortably away from a big city.