Game of Thrones: War of the Five Kings - Battles of Green Fork and Whispering Wood
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Our animated documentary series on the Game of Thrones and the World of Ice and fire continues with a story from the war of the Five Kings and the battles of Green Fork and Whispering Wood, during which the forces of Robb Stark and Tywin Lannister fought for the dominance over the Riverlands. This campaign showed the strategic brilliance of the Young Wolf and gave the Lions of Lannister plenty to think about.
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I want you to translate into Arabic
..Thank you
Do more GOT
Since you do the same scerie as Basbatlle, you could work together, that would be great .
BazBattles has beaten you to this topic by just one day or two. :-P
Excellent battle to cover my king, now all you have to cover is middle earth and it will be complete
This Robb guy seems pretty smart, he’ll probably win.
Yes GRRM can't kill the good guys 😂
At this point it's kinda obvious.
And he seems so honorable. I'm sure he's unable to break a promise.
Oh my sweet summer child
They have Jaime Lannister as their prisoner! I'm sure they'll do something smart with their newly acquired captive.
If only HBO at the time had the budget to film the battle at Whispering Wood, would have looked so amazin :(
Agreed!
In fairness, in the books we see it only from catelyns perspective, who can only hear it, not see it really. She sees the occasional thing through the trees.
And I won't searched this battle in kings and generals channel
For a multibillion dollar company, they always seem to run out of money
They did the same with Rome. Chickened out and cancelled the show early after showing 2 battles
They didn't have a budget like that for GOT till season 2
BazBattles and Kings and Generals uploading in the same DAY! I must be getting lucky 🍀🥳
and the same battle :)
Eduard CG not good :(
The new season is comming
But the war is here
Yes but its game of thrones..its a tv show..who cares about that? I really like this channel but when i see video like that it pisses me off..
When winter comes…
You’ll hear no lions roar…
No stags grazing the fields…
No roses growing in the meadows…
No snakes in the sand…
The krakens will freeze where they swim…
The flayed men will rot and wither…
No trouts swimming in the river and no falcons flying in the air…
Not even the dragon’s breath will warm you in your halls.
You shall hear only the wolves howl…
And then you will know. Winter has come.”
Winter is coming!
Kamal nafe yea... for one night 😔😔
from which chapter is this amazing quote?
@@rollercoaster478 Fans writed
Copy pasta num num nom.
Rob was brilliant as a battle commander but he was a terrible politician
just like his dad :)
ned never lost a battle and he has quite a score , just like robb
TBH he get baited by his own family, everybody around him advised him to fix his relation with the frey
Winning every battle doesn't matter if you lose the war
@@finnheisenheim8274 it does tho.
what did winning the war with robb gave tywin ?
lannisters and freys became most hated amongst faith and smallfalk .
he left his house in hands of cersei that will ruin everything he cared for . his legacy
(ok theres tyrion who killed him and ,maybe gerion devan and jaime but i doubt they will all get tp live)
there is very little chance any house will trust them .
on other hand robb left his house to jon snow . his wife is most likly on the run with his child .
he goes out as s martyr and a symbol for the northmen
im not even gonna menion freys .when the old ferrot dies they all gonna kill eachother
And he owed a lot from the knowledge, experience and counsel of the Blackfish
If only Jaime had 20 elite Good men
The northmen are much better fighters, don't @ me.
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Br?
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@@joaomiguelkojin Claro meu consagradíssimo
I love how rich game of thrones lore and history is..... it's a masterpiece of fantasy.
Agreed!!
I 100% agree
Can we just appreciate the artwork for a second? Like 2:24 is a pretty damn fine art of Aerys
That was early in his reign, when he was still a pretty decent and idealist ruler. He let madness and envy get to him, unfortunately.
We know no king but the King in the North whose name is Stark
FOR THE KING OF THE NORTH!
For the Winter King!
*laughs in Greyjoy*
Next season, DA QUEEN IN DA NORF, SANSA STARK!
There is only one King in Westeros, Stannis the Mannis with the Plannis of House Baratheon, King of the Andals, the Rhoynar, and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms, Protector of the Realm, the Besteros in Westeros
It's kind of insane how GRRM has managed to create a story that feels like actual history. ASOIF has a chaotic and unpredictable nature that you don't normally see in fiction.
"Hear our Documentary" These are the words of the great noble house Kings and Generals of Kings Mount.
This video shows how professional you guys are. Better expleined then the series itself. What a remarkable job!!
Thank you for saying so, my friend. Sometimes it's hard to know whether my own writing is concise enough to explain things correctly, and I'm glad to know you thought it was : )
I agree. I've read the books and watched the show. This video really trims the fat and explains things very clearly.
The battle of the Green Fork is a huge blow for Tywin. His strategy relied on his left flank collapsing, luring the northmen into chasing, and then pinning the whole army to the river, but the mercenaries and clansmen over-performed and ruined his plan, allowing the rest of the enemy army to retreat in good order. So while they won the field, their plan failed and they failed to achieve their intended goal. It was a tactical victory, but a strategic defeat.
Mate, what is the difference between strategy and tactic? I always fail to understand those concepts apart :/
Tactics is basically what you can improvise in the moment of a competition. Strategy is more long term planning and goals. Tactics deals with the details of how to make a successful plan into reality.
@@KriegerdammerungTactics win battles, strategy wins wars they say
The Lannister Army is not disciplined enough to fake a retreat without it becoming the real deal.
17:20
"THEY HAVE MY SON!!!" -Tywin Lannister
Get out! All of you.
Not you, Tyrion! You stay! ... and no more wine!
@Mr.Denton The Starks are honorable men. It's both a strength and a weakness.
@@felixtamola319 In a world like GoT, honor and kindness is a huge weakness
@@DukeOfSummerset well the starks rule westeros now. I guess it's not at all a weakness
There is only one King in Westeros, Stannis the Mannis with the Plannis of House Baratheon, King of the Andals, the Rhoynar, and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms, Protector of the Realm, the Besteros in Westeros
I loled
he's good as a lord of some remote manor but NOT as a king of 7 kingdoms
@@ruksharalam173 manor? lolol
Rukshar Alam no definitely the best king out of the original 5 and the kings at the end of ADWD.
Robb: good commander but makes many political mistakes that cost more soldiers than his actual battle losses, e.g letting Rivermen go home to their own keeps causing chaos and losses, loses the Frey’s for marrying Jenye and the Karstarks by killing their lord.
Joffrey: shit head bastard who only succeeds because of Tywin and Tyrion. Makes mistakes such as killing Ned and pissing off everyone.
Balon: doesn’t care about Westeros only his islands and whatever he cans steal. Only becomes king so he can take advantage of the war.
Renly: he is a man with friends and power, but lacks good qualities such as leadership or battle experience. He has no claim and only wants to be king because he thinks he will be a good one, which he isn’t. His popularity gives him support,
Stannis: cares for the realm (as described by Davos by putting the horse before the cart rather than cart before the horse) and the White Walkers. Judges people on their actions rather than status, is fair and honest yet hard and stern. Good commander and his men adore him compared to the lords. Becomes King because it is his duty.
By the end of ADWD there is some more claimants:
Euron: sadistic, murdering, brutal psychopath. No claim and is insane.
Aegon: a brand new King who has been trained to be a good king by the Golden Company, however he, unlike Stannis, only wants the realm because of his claim like Dany.
Tommen: too young and really just a tool for people to get power, as shown by Cersei. Cares more for his cats than the realm
@@duckboiii4441 Perfect summary.
this man literally just summarized the entire 2 books and it was beautiful
Quite sad to read that, there is so much more in these books.
@@robertsmith8734 you dont say
@@I_am_a_cat_ ??
@@robertsmith8734 that's why it's called a summary
Pretty sure ive read all of this in 1 book not 2?
Baz Battles beat you by one day 😂😂 still a great video btw
Ours is bigger, hence better :-)
Kings and Generals nah Baz did it better, with the map and battle scenes
NarooluCA Both of their channels are great, and cover their respective topics in different but equally as interesting manners. The videos they uploaded today just highlights that, imo
@@KingsandGenerals Baz Batlles is all about the battles though, you're more like documentarianism innit.
@@KingsandGenerals thats how i live !
So between the Hundreds Years War and War of the Roses there was War of the Five Kings. Right?
huh
It's important to note that this is the books version of events and not the TV series which is different.
Yeah because the TV series is not fleshed out enough for such videos.
Whoever is doing all this artwork deserves much more recognition. I wanna see the whole of Westeros/Essos drawn by this guy/gal!
Thank you very much!
Alternate Scenario;
- Tywin isn’t stopped by Tully men at crossroads on the Trident, allowed to approach 15,000 strong Tully force near Riverrun.
- Riders from Kings Landing pleading for help miss Tywin and arrive to Harrenhal on deaf ears.
- Stannis’ assault goes to plan, despite heavy losses as a result of Tyrion’s wildfire plan, the city is taken and sacked for all it is worth. Varys and Tyrion escape through the complex Targaryen era tunnel system, and Sansa leaves with the Hound.
- However, Cersei and Joffrey are burnt at the stake by Melisandre, who arrives shortly after the battle is won.
- Tywin smashes Edmure’s force, however the encirclement tactic as well as the brotherhood without banners ensures heavy casualties for the Lannister’s. It is at this point Tywin and his depleted ~20,000 bannermen hear of the Battle of Blackwater Bay and hurriedly March on the Capital.
- Robb re-enters the Riverlands to join up with the remaining Tully forces and attend Hoster Tully’s funeral, marrying Roslin Frey to secure more levies for his march on Casterly Rock. But not before he retakes Harrenhal and captures the mountain.
- Stannis’ forces are replenished by various peasants in the city as well as the remaining gold cloaks, fending off the siege from Tywin Lannister, who is severely maimed in the battle.
- Stannis declares war with the Kingdom of the North, now that the Lannister-Tyrell alliance has collapsed, with Dorne declaring for Dany Targaryen/Aegon Targaryen (whoever is there at the moment) and the Vale declaring for the North, while Stannis commands the Storm and Crown lands.
- The Westerlands, attended by an ailing Tywin is ruled de facto by Kevin Lannister who bends the knee to Stannis along with Mace Tyrell, however both choose neutrality in the war between the North and South.
ah thank you for this alternate scenario
Alternative Scenario:
- Robb doesn’t become “Da King In Da Norf/Da King of Da Trident”, meaning Robb and co. argue over Renly and Stannis. Robb being the tie breaker, declares for King Stannis.
- Catelyn arrives at Dragonstone to pledge fealty to King Stannis. Stannis brings her with him to The Stormlands to negotiate/deal with Renly.
- Robb hears of Ser Stafford’s army and moves West to both destroy it and lure Tywin West. Robb wins The Battle of The Oxcross.
- Stannis and Catelyn arrive in The Stormlands to negotiate with Renly. Renly turns down his offer, he dies, army defects, Brienne most likely dies.
- Tywin moves West in pursuit of Robb as Robb raids The West but Tywin being Tywin commits war crimes again The Riverfolk. Edmure is forced to act.
- Roose Bolton takes Harrenhal sends half of his men (5,000) East to assist in the siege of KL. Meanwhile, Ironborn raid The North but without Theon, Winterfell still stands.
- Tywin’s gets whooped by Edmure and the messengers arrive. Tywin moves East but Edmure pursues Tywin alongside the other half of Roose Bolton’s host. Robb heard and quickly moves Southeast, down The Gold Road to cut Tywin off.
- As Tywin enters The Reach, he faces off against Robb. Robb hits him in the front but then both Edmure and Roose’s men arrive and hit Tywin in his rear, killing him and demolishing half his host.
- Stannis assaults KL but suffers a set back. Luckily, The Northerners arrive and besieges KL. With the city garrison pre-occupied and divided, Stannis and his host cross the bridge and are able to take The Mud Gate with some resistance.
- Stannis’ attacks The Red Keep. Part of the city is sacked. Cersei, Lancel, and Joffrey are captured, Tyrion and Varys escape to Essos. Sansa is saved. The people hate Stannis and in order to keep the peace, Stannis punishes those who either robbed or raped, either by burning them or guiding them.
- Rosby turns Tommen over. Robb arrives with Jaime and Kevan as his prisoners: Jaime, Cersei, Joffrey, Lancel, Kevan, and Tommen are burned by Melisandre. Stannis forms his small council: Davos as Hand, Mel as Master of Whisperers, Salladhor Saan as Master of Ships. He offers Master of Laws to Robb but Robb turns it down. House Lannister of Lannisport gets Casterly Rock unless Stannis wants to give it to House Florent.
- Robb and his host besiege Moat Cailin, Arya arrives at the camp and the family reunites. With help from the combined host of Rodrim Cassel, Howland Reed, and Ramsay Bolton, Moat Cailin is retaken. The North’s strong holds are liberated.
- The Wall calls for aid and Robb moves North with The Northmen as The Riverlords return home with some hope of financial recovery.
- Robb reunites with Jon and the two fens of The Wildlings. Eventually, Robb agrees to make an alliance with Mance to stand against The Others.
- Balon dies. Euron takes over and raids The Reach and West. Stannis commands The Royal Fleet alongside Paxter Redwyne and they battle Euron and destroy The Iron Fleet (battle of Trafalgar style). With The Iron Fleet gone, Stannis invaded The Iron Islands alongside Robb. There’s a last second coup de tate and Yara bends the knee and Euron is executed.
- Stannis prepares The Realm for The Long Night but then both Dany and Aegon arrive (with Varys around and a not so bitter Tyrion, I think the two are able to form a coalition) and land in Dorne with 10,000 Swords of The Golden Company, 8,000 Unsullied, and the three teenage dragons. Dorne supports the two and moves North into The Stormlands. Whoever wins either ends up wining is unknown.
@@gfilmer7150 wow that’d be the ideal ending lmao
@@samdoesvids1339 Thanks. Robb’s downfall was his crowning as King but that was Renly’s fault (if Renly sided with Stannis, there wouldn’t be that issue of the two Kings and Robb joins Stannis). I do believe Stannis was the best fit to be King but Aegon and Daenerys show a lot of good potential and would make good if not decent rulers. Stannis dying would be sad but The Realm would be in the hands King Aegon and Queen Dany who could parallel Aegon and Visenya. Also Robb might die but I think he’d survive and remain as Warden of The North and without The Horn of Winter, The Others don’t stand a chance.
Kevan :P
Next level stuff right here. Martin writes a world so real it's incorporated into a history channel with details so rich. Just epic stuff.
Long live Stannis Baratheon! The one true king of Westeros!
High King Mannis will rise from the ashes of wildfires and returning or reclaim his right!
Long may he reign
how is he the true anything? because his brother had a big hammer and stole the throne that wasnt his?
@@godemperorofmankind3.091 the Targaryens lost their right to the Throne the second Lyanna Stark was taken and when Aerys burned Lord Stark and Brandon. They unjustly violated the rights of their vassals so it was within the Vassals rights to rebel. The Baratheons also have Targaryen blood but unlike them, they are not incest born abominations.
Nah b Patchface
Just think how much chaos Petyr Baelish made..
RobTekoz he was the best at the ladder
I never get what was the ladder about?
@@jekesan4221 His famous phrase: "Chaos is a ladder"
@@RobFera I know but what does it mean by that??
@@jekesan4221 It means that he uses chaos to "climb" and get more powerful. When there is chaos, great houses are weakened and need him more. "Chaos isn't a pit. Chaos is a ladder. Many who try to climb it fail and never get to try again. The fall breaks them."
This makes a lot of the disjointed feeling events make way more sense. Great video!
Thank you very much!
I'm still waiting for a video of my greatness.
You will shine before you fall my excellence! Wait for the upcoming video on this serie 😊
Soon your grace, soon.
They will bend the knee or our loyal army shall bring them onto them. Let them play their tricks and schemes, that is the only way they can win against your excellence. These Tyrell turncloaks, pyromaniac Lannisters and torture using, cutthroat Boltons
You will emerge victorious at the battle against the Bastard of Bolton and his turncloak allies
Is that coincidence that both you and bazzbattles post the same topic 1 day in a row? :)
Yep. We don't coordinate our schedules
and same sponsor
It might not be coordinated, but neither is it a coincidence. Many, many channels are doing GoT videos this week, on a wide variety of topics, in order to capitalize on the season premiere.
@@TheRealMichaelH Kings and Generals and BazBattles are still the best channels in YT, imo.
They might have been paid by Game of Thrones to make these videos tbh
This is based on the ambush outside Bergerac in 1345 by Henry of Lancaster. I can recommend Clifford J. Rogers' fantastic article on this battle.
Link?
Link?
@@goldenbrown22 “The Bergerac Campaign (1345) and the Generalship of Henry of Lancaster,” Journal of Medieval Military History 2 (2004): 89-110.
You can find it in this book. www.amazon.com/Essays-Medieval-Military-History-Revolutions/dp/0754659968
Jaime Lannister: "Three victories don't make you a conqueror." :P
Robb Stark: "It's better than three defeats." ;)
Me: "But apparently it's not as good as Jeyne Westerling's/Talisa Maegyr's fat arse." xD
That is very specific... :-)
Oh, please leave out that ridiculous Talisa Maegyr name. Such a silly change and pointless to boot.
@@Genarii I still don't understand why they did that
@@will2brown50 SJWism to show Robb didn't marry from a high house but a commoner
Rob fucked her like it was his last day which it was
There is a theory that even at this moment Roose was sabotaging Robb, he probably hasn't yet been in an allience with Tywin but he sent rivel houses on a suicide attack... Lord Hornwood was killed for example, which gave an opportunity to siege his lands by Ramsey...
Man what an incredible series. I learned a lot about the events before the show and this episode summarized a lot of the first couple seasons in one video.
Thanks!
Will you cover the untimely demise of rightful heir and One True King Stannis at the hands of Sir Twenty of House Goodmen?
Stannis the Mannis is not dead yet!
Probably not, they seem to be sticking to the books, where the One True King of Westeros is still in the fight.
@@justafaniv1097 And, as far as we know, very strong looking.
As soon as the Book plays out the battle they probably will. Personally I think Stannis will fail due to a red wedding move by the boltons. Weren't the Umbers split between Stannis and the Boltons ? Yeah I think they are truly Bolton Bannermen now and the moment Stannis trust's them, they will sabotage and slaughter his army. Because let's be honest, fighting on open field against Stannis Baratheon is a death sentence.
@@_Woody_ idk, the Theon sample chapter seems to imply Stannis knows full well who is on his side and not.
Spoiler for Winds of Winter sample chapter...
I think once they watch the Karstarks burn, they will think twice even if they are planning a betrayal, and it's far more likely the Manderlys turn on the Freys and Ramsay once Stannis springs his trap at the Crofters Village.
Tbh, this makes me to want to replay CK2 GoT mod again.
Idk. I kinda found it underwhelming tbh. Played as Stannis to get maximum difficulty out of it but was done reconquering westeros in 15 minutes of gameplay :/
I hope it really gets fleshed out some say
Rex Galilae Play as someone smaller then in one of the earlier time periods. The game isn’t about painting the map it’s about the story you craft.
Sir Devil exactly, being a traitorous Greatjon Umber that ends up exiled unto the Riverlands taking over Mooton lands while I see Gregor Clegane becoming Prince of Dorne is funny af story.
Btw I choked Roose, castrated Ramsay, sold Theon to slavery and killed Robb in single combat
Whats CK2?
@@Biostasis5x7 Crusader Kings II
The king in the north Robb Stark
#teamstark
Absolutely loved your video on the Blackfyre rebellion btw yours is the best channel on RUclips
A northerner fool.
@@MrTheenDx How many 16 year old's can do what Robb did? Fighting on two fronts and beating Tywin himself at every battle on the field. He only married because Stannis the real fool was suppose to weaken or beat the Lannisters. Robb was the best King and tactician in the war.
@@spiral8003 I totally agree Robb stark was the best king . He's way better than jon. In the books goose could of ambush the lannisters . Cause he had a nights match on them but choose to lineup his troops rather than ambush the sleeping lannisters .
Love GOT, thanks for the back story of the lore and I hope you guys continue this work.
Love how respectful you are of GoT lore
Well, part of the reason why Roose Bolton's right flanks crushed so easily by Lannister's ragtag forces is that Sir Ten Good Men was there too
this is so perfect you gotta keep doing more of these!!!!
More on the way!
as always, i have to say once again that video quality is superb
Just got to say this is amazing! And you guys should really do a whole series on The Dance of the Dragons.
The Trees Speak Northerner...
We need a Total War game based in game of thrones
Or just release proper mapping tools for any of the recent total wars.... And you know, let the fans make mods for that and even LotR too while they are at it - as a proper game feel? Back when they actually cared to, we got great things like both GoT and LotR campaigns and awesomeness in Med2; but now they never release competent modding tools and don't care about the modding community much anymore.
Modding communities are still being used and people still uses to playing it. Warhammer's got zombies and dragons that contents is good enough to establish a Game of Thrones total war and an expansion of Essos or Valyrian Freehold Campaign, even a DLC like the Nine Free cities.
@@Brandonhayhew
Being used, but don't try and compare it and say it is what it was. No, before, you could add new campaigns, add maps, add cities, and do far fucking more than you can right now. 'Modding communities are still being used' is rather like saying you still have an RC car, where before you can go down the street in your motorcycle.
Unless we get some of the things they won't release in their mod tools for the newer games, we could never do a Third Age Total War or a GoT mod campaign. We just couldn't.
Crusader kings 2 has a mod for got
I just...i just love this channel. I know it takes time to put videos out, but selfishly I wish it was one every fricking day!!! then the narrator is the truthhhhhh man perfect combination.
Cleganebowl is soon upon us friends!
WHAT IS HYPE MAY NEVER DIE
Your narration is beautiful, the art is absolutely stunning, and your animations are first class. I hope you keep doing what your what your doing because it is simply amazing. Love the videos and appreciate all of the time and effort you must put into them to make them at such a high quality!
I must say, if your made a comic book series with this quality of art work, I would buy it in a heart beat, especially if it was based off of histories and battles from A Song of Ice and Fire.
The show should have had one of the Direwolves give a loud Howl after a battle... Thats a simple and cool thing that happened in the books that the show never attempted to recreate:(
Thank you for this, now I truly understand the storyline.
loving this matter of fact account of the wars, superb!
kings and generals and baz battles releasing battle of te wispering woods in the same day
and a conflict was inevitable
We all knew that day would come
Aerys II descended into madness after what befell in Duskendale.
There isn't any evidence of Aerys II madness prior to Duskendale. Would be really interesting if some infectious disease caused his descent into madness.
This was so creative guys! Can’t wait for more!!
Never understood the war scenes at GoT. This gave a rather detailed yet understandable account since I love playing war strategy games
2 great channels made 2 great videos on the same topic.
Winner is me because I enjoyed them both greatly. Im happy.
Thanks!
I really hope you don't get copyright restrictions for the music. This is a masterpiece
HBO should have sought your help in making the tactical moves of every kingdom and the wars clearer, thanks to you I understand this part of the story much better.
Finally, you did Whispering Wood battle's video
I LOVE YOU SO MUCH
Thanks :-)
In the show they said it was 2000 stark men at that battle but maybe the books have it at 17k . But that’s a huge difference
Robb left the north with 20,000. But roose had command of 17,000 . And Robb had the rest in form of cavalry .
@@scaldon2 Robb left the North with 18000 men
He then picked up 4000 more at the Twins. He gave the majority of his foot which was 16000 men to Roose Bolton while he remained with 6000 who were mostly cavalry
he had 18 thousand plus 3k Frey's. He gave Bolton control of 10k foot and took his cavalry to Riverrun.
he then had about I think 11k Riverland foot and 2k horse.
sorry 4k Frey's. 3k foot and 1k horse.
Rose Bolton seems like a valuable ally to Robb, nice to see these type of people on the Stark side!
He's a type of guy that you use as Cannon and try to get rid off
The fact that they can make a war analysis about this just as detailed as real battles is testament to good fiction
That was brilliant! Now I could actually see how it happened!
Will you cover The One True King Stannis Baratheon's campaigns in the North?
We will. 3 more episodes planned.
@@KingsandGenerals excellent! I look forward to those and your Three Kingdoms videos
@@KingsandGenerals Will you reference the show or the books for the campaign? Winds of Winter will probably have a very different and, in my humble opinion, a much more interesting result. Problem is its not out yet. Either way I really appreciate the vids on ASOIAF.
@@grandadmiralzaarin4962 yeah I watched it. If you're a stannis fan they are going by TV show not books .
I'm robb fan and I get cringed every time people talk about stannis. I don't even really care for book stannis but sometimes I wanna smash my phone 😩
@@caf3in323 I don't particularly have anything against Robb myself. I can see why people like him, he's trying to do what he thinks is right and he's a brilliant tactician in addition to being fairly caring and charismatic, so you won't get cringed by me for backing him(now if you were a Balon or Ramsay guy THEN we'd have issues). Plus he doesn't know that Stannis is actually the true claimant since Ned never got to spill the beans on that and in the show he only has Stannis word on it, which from Robb's view looks like a justification for seizing the Throne. So I don't even fault his choice of trying to secede as to him, it's about justice and protecting the North from Southern exploitation. The main issues I have with Robb are that while he's arguably the best tactician in Westeros, he's probably the worst strategist(Though Balon Greyjoy is pretty horrible in that regard too) and that Robb has a tendency to blame subordinates for his own mistakes rather than owning up to them. Blaming Edmure for showing initiative at the Mummers Ford doesn't make sense because the plan was not explained to Edmure, so he seized a tactical opportunity at strategic expense. That's not really his fault, it's Robb's for not communicating his intent to Edmure. Then regarding the Karstarks and his mother, both had expressed clearly their intent before their actions, keeping them away from camp should have been his first order of business, but instead he left them right next to their problem issues, then blamed them for acting on those impulses.
Again, his main faults are that he's green and doesn't think things through to their conclusion. If Robb had lived and gotten more experience he could have developed into a fine Lord and commander for the long term possibly. I am a Stannis supporter largely because of his record and I think he'd be the best man for the job burning out that scheming nest of vipers that is the political slime of Kings Landing. He's unlikeable, I'd never want to hang out for a weekend with Stannis lol but for a leader he's somebody I respect a lot.
This battle illustration is so dope ♡
Amazing as always.
Crazy war 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
BazBattles & K&G on the same day?
I must be blessed.
Great video and now we have to good reasons to look forward to Sundays! Thx guys!
Thanks for watching :-)
Game of Thrones battles from both my favorite RUclips channels Baz and kings?! It is a good day today 😁👍
long live the true king pycel the wise holder of the knowledge chains, king of the andals and the first men and lord protector of the seven kingdoms
I'm a little sad we didn't see an overview description if the Battle of the Camps (it's very detailed and well thought out in the books) but great video nonetheless.
Wow. Another Kings and Generals GoT video, on my birthday! This is just too good to be true, you guys are the best!
Happy birthday and all the best!
@@KingsandGenerals Thank you so much! And keep up the great work :)
You and Baz Battles are the best 👌🏾👍🏾
BazBattles and K&G cover the same battles on the same day? This is gonna be fun
"There sits the only king I'll kneel to. The King in The North!"
patsfreak Exactly
The king in the north
I love, the George has written a book so rich, with detail that you can fully believe it is history.
great content guys, love your channel
Ah when battle had stratergy.
Can you do a series of Lord of the Rings battles throughout the 1st, 2nd and 3rd age?
Love the Total War: Medieval 2 sound effects, so appropriate! Dunno how my feed started this, i don't need to listen to any of this- pretty sure everyone who hasn't even read the books knows 95% this, but I do appreciate the effects lol. I'm sure this video is good reference for those who need refreshing.
It couldn't get any better..K&G and Bazbattles uploaded the same title..kudos to them!
What kind of Cartel is this between you and Baz Battles....lol
total war should make the got games
LotR first. I want to get a proper sequel to the awesomeness that was the original Third Age Total War, which made it to the #1 overall any game mod on moddb a couple years there back in the day. Now everything about that game is dated, and instead of doing what the fans made an epic thing, they decided to make warhammer instead of doing the LotR mod justice...
in just 18 minutes i understand the stories of GOT..thank you kings and generals,you saved my time.
I love this channel so much ❤️
Yesterday BazBattles uploaded about the same battle, what a coincidence, are you guys on a race?LOL!
Kings and Generals the best
so i basically saw this yesterday on bazzbattles im sad :(
@@9and7 bc i really like these 2 channels so i would prefer if they dont cover the same topic at the same time, regardless im thankful in general these things happen.
The visual arts in this video are gorgeous ❤️
Thank you very much!
You can check the 2 other videos about GoT on the channel
Awesome!!!.... Keep them coming!!!
Why do all the generals in the game of thrones universe fight like the AI in Rome total war 2?
If Robb was smarter at intrigue and diplomacy he could of definitely won the war of the 5 kings. He wasn't as good with people as many other leaders such as the tyrells, lannisters, and even baratheons. His main mistake was being too trustful and honorable just like his father.
BlueDragon257 but honor is what the Starks will use to win
Damn this Roose Bolton is one loyal vassal, he was willing to face Tywin as bait so Robb could take the glory. I hope he and Robb wins together in the end.
😂😂🤣
He's a bit creepy but I'm sure he's actually a great guy once you get to know him. Look he's so nice to Jaime and....oh....oh no.
- My reaction upon reading A Storm of Swords
Tq so muchhhh.... I really appreciate your videos....
Between this and BazBattles video my hype train is FULL LOCO for GOT
50% of the comments: BazBattles beat you by one day!
40% of the comments: I love GoT & 14 of April!
10% of the comments: Random GoT fact!
Great job, excellent video.
Robb, the young wolf in the north! my favourite character by far!
I have one request would u plz make the books as the full reference.
Still waiting for ottoman series 😘
I just found out you made these types of videos and I'm hooked
ruclips.net/channel/UCwqY9GjXBdSYeUZiinbFXyQ
this is so awesome.