see this I agree with wholeheartedly. I think one of my strengths is getting multiple useable/unique images bc I'm a wedding photographer and that's always the final goal. Jared's strengths are definitely having more patience than me in getting a single image nailed really well.
Loved the fact that they referenced you, when I need a review in Sony world, Jared is my go to guy but I look to you for Canon related stuff! Love your work Peter!
I just ''upgraded.'' I am a ''noobie'' photographer, still learning, was using Nikons D7500 and recently sold it with both of my lenses and I bought a used 1DXll for 2,400 EUR along with the 100-400mm... The difference in my photos is absolutely huge and I didn't change the way I shoot, I only ''upgraded'' to a better camera. The amount of options, settings and just overall freedom and control that I have over my photos is not even comparable to when I was using the D7500... The difference is night and day. The ''it's not the camera, it's the photographer'' goes only as far as your camera allows - with low end gear, you will eventually hit a wall with settings/image quality, no matter how good you are but with better camera, there's no wall to hit, the sky is the limit...
Posing for client use: Vanessa. Posing for artistic expression: Jared. Gotta give it to The Fro! They do make a dynamic duo, though, and would make any of their solo shoots even better if they worked together. Better photography through interpersonal chemistry?
@@froknowsphoto thing with noise attached, right?? lol, that old Nikon is still a great camera for that kind of work.. if you can get a battery that works.. lol I just love the shutter sound on those old cameras too... like my old Canon 1d..that thing sounds like a tank! (built like one too!)
I follow the fro-man, but I actually enjoy it when he goes away from the review person and goes into photographer mode. He did wonders with that old tank of a Nikon lol
I disagree, a T7i (or any crop sensor) with a fixed 50mm and manual focus is a relatively inexpensive combo and one that many people would see as "budget." However I find that photos in the snow, on an overcast day, with a professional model is cake. If they had to pose a first-time subject that was nervous, on a sunny day at noon, that would have been much harder. Overall great job though.
I wasn't dissing it at all, in fact I said that Jared had a handicap with his camera. I've shot with this camera ton and love it. Though I do like the newer m50mkii better
@@monkeywizard77 no pain at all with my beloved Nikon D700 bought 2008, still the only digital camera I own next to my analogue Nikon F4s and I don`t miss anything
I have to give the vote to Jared for the more artistic framing through the railing. Bonus points for using a camera that's 18 years older than your challengers. For a real challenge use a Kodak dcs420 on the next shootout
Vanessa, your first photo is bang-on tack sharp. Gorgeous framing and a beautiful image. Jared's photos, I would say won. His compositions really won me over. This is not to say that neither of you are bad, the two of you are beyond professional. It was a great video and it shows both of you had a lot of fun. That's where it really counts, is the fun factor.
I think Jared one, but not by a lot. Also, I think Vanessa had the advantage with the newer gear. Next time, could you guys shoot with old entry level cameras like the t2, t3, etc.
I appreciate how Jared proves, again, that it is not the equipment that matters as much as the knowledge. I have been told so many times that because I have a 16 mega pixel crop sensor camera I can not print larger than 11×14 prints. Jared has shown how good and how big (his metal prints at his home) you can print, and here he is showing what a next to nothing amount of pixels can do!! Thank you both. I learn a lot by watching both of your videos!!
I am going to cough my COVID on you. This statement is legendary and iconic I laughed so hard. I was no expecting this high level of humor from Vanessa. ❤❤👍👍
Jared won this. Vanessas shots are nice, but they just look like standard instagram photos without standing out. But the framed shot that Jared took is unique, the smile is great and the editing is really cool. I like this video series already!
Jared for Single shot based Sharpness and focus, Vanessa for the Wedding style, album time shots. Combined I'd say both, but since Jared didn't have Live View, I'd say He gets an extra point.
I like seeing this version of Jared-the “Fro” facade can be a bit much-and I liked that he was involved with discussing composition instead of the usual gear talk on his channel.
Jared wins this one with overall journalistic style Vanessa's brick portrait was excellent Very entertaining content, really enjoyed banter and technical remarks
I'm gonna go with the FRO!!!! Vanessa's is too safe, too classic magazine standard. Jared is more artistic, fun and whimsical. Plus way too much skin smoothing is Vanessa's pic. Also Jared got the highlights in the model's hair.
I admire vannesa for being able to pose but my style is probably more like Jared in this case because us people who can't pose have to look for great composition lol
Jared, that’s the first time I’ve seen you with your hair ”down”...I like it. Great job both of you! You just proved that it’s not about the gear, though modern technology sure makes the job easier! 🤗
It’s are great it’s hard to decide it depends on taste. Fros is more unique looking and hers is more fun photos. It all comes down to what your preference is. Is one better than the other quality wise I’ll have to say no. Which is surprise from a old digital camera to one that came out about 5 years ago. If we are voting on who was challenged the most fro wins but that’s reaching if we are just voting on who’s camera is the oldest lol. Great video ‼️
Using a t7i was a huge advantage It's like if Jared had a d5600 The t7i is like a 700 dollar camera, so easily 1k+ with a nice prime or 2 It's a realistic set up for many newer hobbiests, but idk if I'd call it a challenge when compared to a nikon d1
This was good fun but I have to go with Jared that single photo was just great and been taken with such an old sensor and camera is just amazing. Thanks for putting this together Vanessa.
Both of you did a great job and I found both single last shots hit the target . Despite the tech , I still use single focus point and whilst I might miss a few out of focus . I engage emotion from model and get them to imagine a scene and can instil humour to get those winning smiles . And , I no longer do pro work, but love great images and know that the gear does not matter; but it can help for sure. Great video
Both are solid... I’m going with Jared only because of the brighter expression on the model! Both were executed very very well. This was a fun video to watch!
Jared single photo (First) is the Best! , but the best part is watching Jared with a Nikon wearing an Alpha (Sony) jacket :) Both are amazing photographers!
I liked that Vanessa picked a Canon Rebel with the nifty fifty. Arguably the most common interchangeable lens camera you might come across in America with a super popular and inexpensive lens.
It's great to see how on next to no budget you can get great results with enough experience and technical experience thanks to both of you for doing this.
What a fun "competition!" My favorite photo overall was Vanessa's close-up portrait of the model but I preferred Jared's entries as a whole over Vanessa's. Great concept you can tweak to highlights cameras, presets, editing, posing, etc!
Gotta go with Jared on this one. Great shots all around though! A little while back I took some portrait shots of my kids with my old Nikon D40 and was also very pleasantly surprised. Great vid!👍
I really try to learn from the photographers. They both have their own style of shooting and enjoyed what they both captured. It makes me think outside the box and be more creative. The winner is the photographers watching this video. I follow both Fro and my girl Vanessa you both rock playing different kinds of music!!!!!!
I have the T7i. I can't decide if I am happy or sad that Vanessa had trouble with the focusing. Does this mean I may not be as bad a photographer as I thought? Does it mean I should buy a R6?
I or should I say we win. We get a good video showing we don’t need new gear, just practice our craft and it’s likely what we have is good enough. And it made me laugh. You two can be so funny together! Thanks for the education and the laugh
Great video on 2 different styles and hardware. I think both did a very good job and both have different take on the same theme. I like both sets of Images
Well done guys. This is the video I've been waiting to see. More pro photographers should be reviewing old or secondhand camera gear, showing how you can still take amazing shots on old kit. I started out with an old Canon 5D mkII. All my lenses are about 10 years old, secondhand, but perfect quality. You can do great photography but still not break the bank.
Loving this new series! Vanessa wins for me, but I sympathize with Jared in that I'm a candid photographer, so it's hard when the situation calls for a model to be posed, and with a time limit.
Love this video of you two, lol!..I would have to say it's a tie. I like both shots. I myself started on a "Canon T6i" and most of my magazine shots were taken with it. I loved it, but eventually stepped up to the Canon Mark series of cameras. Excellent video. Cheers!
Vanessa wins the thumbnail - no contest - and better final set of photos, but Jared's single shot was better.
see this I agree with wholeheartedly. I think one of my strengths is getting multiple useable/unique images bc I'm a wedding photographer and that's always the final goal. Jared's strengths are definitely having more patience than me in getting a single image nailed really well.
I agree.
Speaking of thumbnails, what up with the nailpolish Vanessa??? LOL!!
I totally agree
Yup, this. :) Vanessa no fancy light swirls or at home thingamabobs to add flair?!! Lolz. This was a great collab!
So much fun!
"That's called the Peter McKinnon" kicking snow for no reason :D
Aw thanks Peter!!
Loved the fact that they referenced you, when I need a review in Sony world, Jared is my go to guy but I look to you for Canon related stuff! Love your work Peter!
oh yes it was
can you try the T7i peter?... 🤔 newbs want to see what a pro can do with these cameras 📸
Jared used the much older gear and nailed that shot, so my vote for him.
Exactly
My vote is for Jared. Liked his composition a little better. His shot through was the best of the best with honors.
I love how savage Jared is: “Yeah, I don’t like that at all” 🤣
well he is the critic-ky ma criticarson guy.
He also recently sent an email about turning 40 and being single. I think I might have some insight... no crystal ball involved.
He must have Dutch genes :-)
I like both equally... Vanessa has that portrait pretty style and Jared has an artistic perspective and journalistic approach
Lesson here: gear makes things easier but talent trumps all.
PREACH!!!
@@VanessaJoy hallelujah!
As Chris Brooks stated. The same is true for other skills: for example cooking fine food, making espresso.
I just ''upgraded.'' I am a ''noobie'' photographer, still learning, was using Nikons D7500 and recently sold it with both of my lenses and I bought a used 1DXll for 2,400 EUR along with the 100-400mm... The difference in my photos is absolutely huge and I didn't change the way I shoot, I only ''upgraded'' to a better camera. The amount of options, settings and just overall freedom and control that I have over my photos is not even comparable to when I was using the D7500... The difference is night and day. The ''it's not the camera, it's the photographer'' goes only as far as your camera allows - with low end gear, you will eventually hit a wall with settings/image quality, no matter how good you are but with better camera, there's no wall to hit, the sky is the limit...
Posing for client use: Vanessa. Posing for artistic expression: Jared. Gotta give it to The Fro! They do make a dynamic duo, though, and would make any of their solo shoots even better if they worked together. Better photography through interpersonal chemistry?
Jared I’m not a real photographer, I just play one on the internet, LOL 😆.
winning
@@froknowsphoto always 😁
@@froknowsphoto for not being a real photographer, you sure did take some great photos. I’m gonna put my vote for the noob.
@@froknowsphoto thing with noise attached, right?? lol, that old Nikon is still a great camera for that kind of work.. if you can get a battery that works.. lol I just love the shutter sound on those old cameras too... like my old Canon 1d..that thing sounds like a tank! (built like one too!)
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
I follow the fro-man, but I actually enjoy it when he goes away from the review person and goes into photographer mode. He did wonders with that old tank of a Nikon lol
Jared using Nikon wearing a Sony alpha jacket, LOL 😆.
that is true lol.
@@froknowsphoto lol
@@froknowsphoto smacking sony or nikon?
I guess the money truck didn’t stop by this week. Little subliminal messaging to the lizard people.
It's because Jared is a Nikon boy at heart.
I never thought I’d say this, but, overall, Fro- however, V’s photo where the model is snuggled into her turtle neck is incredible.
The fro knows! I pick Jared's shots, I'm a huge fan of "shoot through" photos.
I love how the T7i is being portrayed as an old, crappy camera. It's literally from 2019 before the T8i came out in 2020
Point wasn't "old and crappy", the title says BUDGET with literal capital letters.
I disagree, a T7i (or any crop sensor) with a fixed 50mm and manual focus is a relatively inexpensive combo and one that many people would see as "budget." However I find that photos in the snow, on an overcast day, with a professional model is cake. If they had to pose a first-time subject that was nervous, on a sunny day at noon, that would have been much harder. Overall great job though.
Vanessa spent the whole time dissing on a camera better than what most of her viewers probably have.
@@riotrob That's what happens when you have access to whatever tier of camera, you become really fussy.
I wasn't dissing it at all, in fact I said that Jared had a handicap with his camera. I've shot with this camera ton and love it. Though I do like the newer m50mkii better
For me: Jared wins for composition, Vanessa for the post production! Nice collaboration video! ;)
Both win the contest, Vanessa's has more commercial feel while Jared's has more of journalistic style portrait
This is a great series please keep it going. This episode was relatable because I still shoot with a canon T1i.
absolutely will! one a month!
I feel your pain, I had been using one for 10 years, then finally got the R5.. just a touch of an upgrade! :-D
@@monkeywizard77 my T1i is my workhorse and does me very well but I see an R6 purchase coming very soon.
T3i here
@@monkeywizard77 no pain at all with my beloved Nikon D700 bought 2008, still the only digital camera I own next to my analogue Nikon F4s and I don`t miss anything
I love the colors in Jared's images & his 4 chosen shots in general. Her's are better posed. He wins for the camera gear used.
I have to give the vote to Jared for the more artistic framing through the railing. Bonus points for using a camera that's 18 years older than your challengers. For a real challenge use a Kodak dcs420 on the next shootout
Vanessa, your first photo is bang-on tack sharp. Gorgeous framing and a beautiful image. Jared's photos, I would say won. His compositions really won me over. This is not to say that neither of you are bad, the two of you are beyond professional. It was a great video and it shows both of you had a lot of fun. That's where it really counts, is the fun factor.
Jared: I’m using a Nikon (etc)
Vanessa: (Dance, Dance the Dance of Life!!!)
I love Jared and his crazy style......but, VANESSA WINS!!! HANDS DOWN!!! I can't wait for the next episode!!!
I think Jared one, but not by a lot. Also, I think Vanessa had the advantage with the newer gear. Next time, could you guys shoot with old entry level cameras like the t2, t3, etc.
I like both. I like the kick in the snow from Vanessa and the one through the rail from Jared.
I prefer Jared's photos overall, but Vanessa's had more personality to them.
Lol!!! Vanessa.... you killed me bombing behind the fro!!!!
Vanessa "Get out of my way" Jared: *Doesn't Move* Vanessa: "I'm going to cough my Covid on you" LOL
I appreciate how Jared proves, again, that it is not the equipment that matters as much as the knowledge. I have been told so many times that because I have a 16 mega pixel crop sensor camera I can not print larger than 11×14 prints. Jared has shown how good and how big (his metal prints at his home) you can print, and here he is showing what a next to nothing amount of pixels can do!! Thank you both. I learn a lot by watching both of your videos!!
I am going to cough my COVID on you. This statement is legendary and iconic I laughed so hard. I was no expecting this high level of humor from Vanessa. ❤❤👍👍
It’s incredible to see and hear two very talented photographers face off and talk about what there thought process was while taking their photos.
Jared - "Doesn't that look good? That looks so good!"
Vanessa - "That DOES look good. Get out of my way...."
Jared won this. Vanessas shots are nice, but they just look like standard instagram photos without standing out. But the framed shot that Jared took is unique, the smile is great and the editing is really cool.
I like this video series already!
Jared’s shoot-through “halo” shot won it for me!
Me too
Only when cropping the bottom 1/3rd.
@@jenningsford8961 crop away!
Jared for the compositions. Venessa for capturing the beauty.
I've been schlepping with a t1i for 10 years.. I'd love to have seen Vanessa use that.
Ha! I just upgraded from my t1i to a Sony A7R3 this past fall! HUGE difference in gear. The old t1i actually made some great images though.
Gotta love how she is basically trash talking the camera I was so proud to have bought. 👍
Not trashing it... I own it too. Pointing out differences. Not trashing something I actually own too.
@@VanessaJoy I have the T6i and the viewfinder AF is horrible.
Jared for Single shot based Sharpness and focus, Vanessa for the Wedding style, album time shots. Combined I'd say both, but since Jared didn't have Live View, I'd say He gets an extra point.
I like seeing this version of Jared-the “Fro” facade can be a bit much-and I liked that he was involved with discussing composition instead of the usual gear talk on his channel.
I’m going to have to go with Jared who had some more interesting compositions. I think we need more videos with two though!
I did a video about my old Nikon D5200 on my channel a few weeks back, amazed how good the quality of those old entry level cameras still are!
Jared won, and major props to him for breaking out the D1!
Both wins! You are both great photographers at what you do and every image captures mood, expression, and a story behind it. Awesome!
I'd say a tie. Jared has the more interesting composition but I like Vanessa's edit more.
This is a riot. I'm a fan of you both and you both need to do more videos like this. Lots of fun.
Both photographers did a great job but I'm giving the edge to Vanessa for her clean classic style.
i give it to jared, the t7 is still sold, compared to the nikon D series lol
Ike u get outta here and go shoot a live in the struggle studio, No but Seriously where are the baddies???😂😂😂
Jared wins this one with overall journalistic style Vanessa's brick portrait was excellent
Very entertaining content, really enjoyed banter and technical remarks
I'm gonna go with the FRO!!!! Vanessa's is too safe, too classic magazine standard. Jared is more artistic, fun and whimsical. Plus way too much skin smoothing is Vanessa's pic. Also Jared got the highlights in the model's hair.
Vanessa Joy gets my VOTE! Love you Jared
I admire vannesa for being able to pose but my style is probably more like Jared in this case because us people who can't pose have to look for great composition lol
Jared, that’s the first time I’ve seen you with your hair ”down”...I like it. Great job both of you! You just proved that it’s not about the gear, though modern technology sure makes the job easier! 🤗
Thanks so much!!
2:00 I have a Canon T6 😢 That’s still better than my camera 😂
Started with the t6... now I have the rp.
I say Jared, the older tech really shows off his skills.
This was cool to watch especially jared with that old camera.
"I'm gonna caugh my covid on you" 🤭😂BTW... Jared's images.
lol couldn't help myself bc he wasn't moving!!!
@@VanessaJoy I still love your images. I loved the idea behind this video.
@@blonko86 happy to hear it :-)
Jared wins. Creative composition, framing.
That D1h looks amazing. I have a bunch of film cameras on a shelf for decoration… might start adding old digital cameras to that mix.
It’s are great it’s hard to decide it depends on taste. Fros is more unique looking and hers is more fun photos. It all comes down to what your preference is. Is one better than the other quality wise I’ll have to say no. Which is surprise from a old digital camera to one that came out about 5 years ago. If we are voting on who was challenged the most fro wins but that’s reaching if we are just voting on who’s camera is the oldest lol. Great video ‼️
Using a t7i was a huge advantage
It's like if Jared had a d5600
The t7i is like a 700 dollar camera, so easily 1k+ with a nice prime or 2
It's a realistic set up for many newer hobbiests, but idk if I'd call it a challenge when compared to a nikon d1
This was good fun but I have to go with Jared that single photo was just great and been taken with such an old sensor and camera is just amazing. Thanks for putting this together Vanessa.
Both of you did a great job and I found both single last shots hit the target .
Despite the tech , I still use single focus point and whilst I might miss a few out of focus . I engage emotion from model and get them to imagine a scene and can instil humour to get those winning smiles . And , I no longer do pro work, but love great images and know that the gear does not matter; but it can help for sure.
Great video
Vanessa’s image is clean and technically spot on, but Jared’s is unique. For this, I give it to him for such a different shot.
Your sweatshirt AND the snow were a mirror image of what Austin and the hill country looked like this past week. Love the video.
haha ironic right?
Both are solid... I’m going with Jared only because of the brighter expression on the model! Both were executed very very well.
This was a fun video to watch!
Jared single photo (First) is the Best! , but the best part is watching Jared with a Nikon wearing an Alpha (Sony) jacket :) Both are amazing photographers!
Both photographers did very well in this challenge. Love Jared's honesty about posing ability. Awesome idea.
I liked that Vanessa picked a Canon Rebel with the nifty fifty. Arguably the most common interchangeable lens camera you might come across in America with a super popular and inexpensive lens.
It's great to see how on next to no budget you can get great results with enough experience and technical experience thanks to both of you for doing this.
that's the idea! Glad you like :-)
exactly........I won!!!
What a fun "competition!" My favorite photo overall was Vanessa's close-up portrait of the model but I preferred Jared's entries as a whole over Vanessa's. Great concept you can tweak to highlights cameras, presets, editing, posing, etc!
Gotta go with Jared on this one. Great shots all around though! A little while back I took some portrait shots of my kids with my old Nikon D40 and was also very pleasantly surprised. Great vid!👍
I really try to learn from the photographers. They both have their own style of shooting and enjoyed what they both captured. It makes me think outside the box and be more creative. The winner is the photographers watching this video. I follow both Fro and my girl Vanessa you both rock playing different kinds of music!!!!!!
To fun and I really enjoyed both your images. But based on the final 2 images you shown I love the expression Jared got and the creative framing.
Both are great. You can see how every personality is different.
Both are 🔥 but that final photo from Jared is the best out of all of them. Stunning.
Great video yall! I enjoy both of your channels and content. Also the banter was hilarious between you both! Love this concept
Glad you like’! Episode two is up :)
Both of you WON !!!
Vanessa, thank you for this series it's extremely entertaining.. yet informative.
I like both equally.. you both win..
I’m so glad you like it! Thanks for watching ☺️
So much fun to watch. Thanks Vanessa and Jared!!
You know, both are great. I can't pick which one, because they both offer such a different feel! Well done to you guys! Thanks for the fun video!
Our pleasure!
Just love the Jared photos so much
Dont know which one to choose! both images are great! i love how gared was able to put that off with a camera so old! that is impresive!
Both did amazing!
Props to Vanessa for going against Fro.
Not an easy task.....
I just learned that live view will give me better/clearer shots. 🤯. I will definitely be using this more in my photography.
I'm liking Jared's shots better here. I like the composition and color palette used for post better in his selections.
I have the T7i. I can't decide if I am happy or sad that Vanessa had trouble with the focusing. Does this mean I may not be as bad a photographer as I thought? Does it mean I should buy a R6?
I or should I say we win. We get a good video showing we don’t need new gear, just practice our craft and it’s likely what we have is good enough. And it made me laugh. You two can be so funny together! Thanks for the education and the laugh
My vote goes for Fro's picture. Love the composition and the way the blurred foreground frames the models face.
Vanessa and Jared videos are the best!!! Great content and really fun!!!! ahahah best chemistry, do more videos with Jared :) !!
More to come I'm sure!
Fros artistic picture did it for me. But Vanessa has a winning show. Can't wait for the next one.
I love you guys together!! More please 🙏🏻
Love Jareds shot the most!
Jared definitely won! Way to go, FRO!!!
@JaredPolin has my vote for this challenge.
Great video on 2 different styles and hardware.
I think both did a very good job and both have different take on the same theme.
I like both sets of Images
Jared's shot through the fence/ ? , was really good 👍. Vanessa's post production on the snow kick was lovely. Enjoyed the banter too.
Never saw the Fro on this one. Vanessa is a ray of sunshine and a hoot!
Well done guys. This is the video I've been waiting to see. More pro photographers should be reviewing old or secondhand camera gear, showing how you can still take amazing shots on old kit. I started out with an old Canon 5D mkII. All my lenses are about 10 years old, secondhand, but perfect quality. You can do great photography but still not break the bank.
More to come!
Loving this new series! Vanessa wins for me, but I sympathize with Jared in that I'm a candid photographer, so it's hard when the situation calls for a model to be posed, and with a time limit.
Love this video of you two, lol!..I would have to say it's a tie. I like both shots. I myself started on a "Canon T6i" and most of my magazine shots were taken with it. I loved it, but eventually stepped up to the Canon Mark series of cameras. Excellent video. Cheers!
I can’t choose an all out winner. Both of you Did great.
Oh my gosh- I’ve never seen Jared’s curls like that!!!!! I love this so much! 😍
I liked Jared's 'halo' shot. Vanessa's sidewalk version with her model turning away was a great shot as well. Good work, you two.