I own a 90D and love the flip screen. I have shot in the rain and it just keeps a ticking, no worries there. The camera works well shooting wild life, you just got to experiment with the menu. The winner for me the 90D
The 90d is a bit more expensive to be fair at least used. Although if you can afford the extra few hundred go for it! 32mp with a great af system along with it being a newer body I believe is amazing.
90D *Autofocus Adjustment Functions* are in the Custom Functions :) regarding 4:22 Custom Functions II: Autofocus. *Tracking Sensitivity* (C.Fn II-1): Related to the AI Servo AF mode; this setting controls how much the autofocus system reacts when an object other than your subject enters the focusing area or when your subject strays from the focusing points. Accel./Decel. Tracking (C.Fn II-2): This one is also related to AI Servo AF mode; the default setting is designed for subjects moving at a fixed speed. The other settings are geared to subjects that are moving erratically. AF Point Auto Switching (C.Fn II-3): This sets the AF point switching sensitivity when tracking moving objects. In other words, you can control how responsive the system is when it needs to switch AF points. AI Servo 1st Image Priority (C.Fn II-4): When you use one of the Continuous Drive modes and AI Servo AF mode, this setting determines whether the camera takes the first shot as soon as the shutter button is pressed, even if focus is not yet achieved. You can tell the camera to wait for focusing to occur (choose the Focus Priority setting) or to go ahead and take the shot (choose Release Priority). The default, Equal Priority, tries to achieve a balance between the two. AI Servo 2nd Image Priority (C.Fn II-5): This function controls what happens for shots taken after the first shot when you’re using Continuous shooting and AI Servo AF mode. Choose Shooting Speed Priority to make achieving the maximum frames per second rate the priority; choose Focus Priority to restrict the camera to taking the shot after focus is achieved. The default setting gives equal priority to both concerns. Select AF Area Selection Mode (C.Fn II-7): By default, the 90D rotates through all five AF Area Selection Modes when you press the AF Area Selection Mode button when using the viewfinder. You can customize this by removing those you don’t want to see from this rotation. The only exeption (you knew there was going to be one!) is Manual Selection: 1-Point AF. It stays, whether you want to see it or not. Limit AF Methods (C.Fn II-8): Like the previous function, this setting limits the AF methods you can use, only when you are shooting in Live View. Orientation Linked AF Point (C.Fn II-10): Normally, the AF Area mode you select, as well as the AF point or zone you choose, remain in effect whether you orient the camera horizontally or vertically. If you change this setting to Select Separate AF Points, the camera remembers the settings you choose while holding the camera horizontally, vertically with the grip on top, and vertically with the grip on the bottom. Then when you rotate the camera, it automatically shifts to those settings. *Initial Servo AF* (C.Fn II-11): This option controls which AF point the AI Servo AF or Servo AF uses when the AF Area Selection mode is set to Automatic Selection AF for the viewfinder or the AF Method is set to Face+Tracking in Live View. By default, the system selects whichever AF point it thinks is best. However, you can change this behavior and pre-select an AF point to start on, whether preset or the last one you used. AF Point Selection Movement (C.Fn II-13): By default, when you’re selecting an autofocus point, you hit a wall when you reach the edge of the grid of autofocus points. If you change this menu option to Continuous, the selection instead wraps around the viewfinder by jumping to the point on the opposite side. This function applies to viewfinder shooting only.
This was a great video. Hard to find such a non-flashy, objectively based review video that really focus on REAL world pros/cons - and just not just pro/cons for youtubers/vloggers! Thank you very much.
Thank you very much for the comparison between these both cameras in terms of wild life photography. Concerning the autofocus issue of 90d (lost the Focus of bird) I want to comment that from technical point of view many Canon cameras like 1dxmii, 7dmii, 80d, 90d,... are using one and the same parameters in order to configure the autofocus performance. These parameters are so called "Tracking sensitivity", "Accel./Decel tracking" and "AF pt Auto switching". The SW algo using these parameters as input is in every camera the same, I guess. Only the hardware is different. As far as I know the autofocus HW module for the optical view finder of 90d is a new development derived from the one of 1dxmii. Thus, I wonder why the performance of 90d in terms of tracking birds shall be worse than 7dmii. For sure the 7dmii as well as the 1dxmii are capable to offer pre-configured autofocus settings in its menu so called case1...case6. Which allows to access different focus situations very quickly. But these pre-configurations do only use the three parameters mentioned above in different combinations. Thus, I recommend to configure the 90d in the same way as the 7dmii in order to compare the bird tracking capability. When I have a look to the pre-configurations, I would prefer to use case 2 for bird photography. The parameters are set as follows: "Tracking sensitivity = -1", "Accel./Decel tracking = 0" and "AF pt Auto switching = 0". I assume the Tracking sensitivity value is in this case the root cause for losing the focus in the 90d. Thus I recommend to change this value to minus one in the 90d CFn.II autofocus menu. Whereby “-1” means that the focus remains longer on the motif and doesn’t change to other items appearing in the image behind or in front of the original motif.
Hi Konny, thanks for watching my video. You are absolutely correct. You can finde adjust your AF functions in the green menu and really improve it drastically, however, that feature is a bit hidden away.
Bueno, eso quiere decir que el video de análisis no fue realmente "en profundidad". Quiero comprar una cámara para naturaleza y creo que antes ver videos, es mejor descargar los manuales. Saludos desde Perú.
A year ago I got a Canon 100-400 zoom and I almost bought a 90D as a second body for it (I already had an 80D). I came across this video and saw that the 7Dii autofocus was much better than 80/90D, so I bought a new 7Dii and grip instead at a very good price. I confirm that this video is spot on, the 7Dii blows the 80D into the weeds on quickly changing autofocus for birds. I also find the 7Dii much better in other ways; faster, quieter, better sealed, better exposition with and without flash, and the CF card is way faster copying off onto a PC than an SD card. Thanks again for the excellent advice!
Autofocus tracking sensitivity IS AVAILABLE on the 90D.. just not as a separate menu item but you can register the individual tracking items in the MY Menu. Also: Autofocus tracking for BIF is made better by disabling the Face and ITR (also in the setup menus). You didnt' mention any of this in your review.
Also annoying she said the 7D mkii wins for auto focus points because it beats the cross type viewfinder by 20 points, yet says nothing about the 5481 points available in live view along with the WAY more advanced iTR AF it has. You can customize the AF insanely on this camera, just doesn't have a designated page to do it. Everything's in the custom modes menu. I dunno, I appreciate reviews to get opinions of real world issues and comparisons but blindly reading off basic spec info from Best Buy's web page doesn't cut it.
Had the chance of handling a friend's 90D and discovered that there is a Autofocus chapter in the menu of 90D as well, similar to those of 7D ii or 5D iv. I don’t know if It's exactly same as those of single digit cameras', but fine tuning of AF tracking sensitivity /responsiveness, acceleration/deceleration etc are available in 90D as well.
upgraded my set up from a t5 to a used 7d mkii recently and I have to say that I am blown away that a camera that old is so fast and reliable. From my experience buying a used 7d mkii for a budget nature photography setup if you can find them in good condition for cheap enough is a great option.
I too "upgraded" to a 7D mk II recently and the sharp focus is really amazing! I tend to do a lot of bird photography, and the 7D mk II has not disappointed!!!!!
This comparison video was ABSOLUTELY OUTSTANDING! I am a basketball photographer here in Japan and have been contemplating these two for some time. Thank you very much...and I’ve subscribed.
Hi, thanks so much for watching my video. Really really appreciate. We have been trying to get more new gear up here to the Chobe but were unfortunately stopped by all the quarantine. Stay safe!
Some corrections out of my experience: 1. the 90D does have a comprehensive autofucus menu, with all of the options she claimed were missing and more! 2. The tracking of the optical view in the 90D is superior to the live view's one, at least for wildlife photography, as it's faster 3.the high pixels density of the 90D requires the use of high revolving lenses (100-400 ii is a great choice) and higher than usual shutter speed- once these two are utilized the result would be far superior to the 7d ii I appreciate the time spent on making this video and do consider it's release date which was close to the 90D release but the 90D is a far superior camera to the 7D mark ii, not even mentioning its video capabilities which are fantastic!
Hi Janine, THX for your vid. On 3 July 2020, I order a Canon 90 D. So far so good. Then I read your chapter about 90d vs 7dii. On 18 July 2020, I order a NEW Canon 7 D ii. Now I must learn a lot, but the menus are simple. I learn also from RUclips, and I net. My last CANON was a Canon FTb, that was in 1972. After that, I use LUMIX and NIKON and LEICA. The sound from the Mirror makes me Happy again! Still, I look to the NEW Canon R 5 and the new lenses 600- and 800- mm. Cheers, Frits from Thailand *_* [65-year friendship with the Shutter]
Hi Jeanine. I have been debating on whether I should buy the 70-200 iii. Or the 70-200 II. But been also looking at the 100-400mm II and or the 150-600mm sigma. I will be using on the canon 90d. I want you to help me decide or narrow it down. Since the 90d it’s a bit picky because of the 32.5 mg pixel. Sorry it’s a big question. If you already have those comparisons let me know so I can check it out. Thank you 🙏 for all the wisdom you have shared with us all so far.
Hi Malinois, that really depends on what you want to be photographing. the 70-200mm will mostly come short when you want to shoot birds or wildlife... the 100-400mm or the 150-600mm will be better suited for that... However, if you mostly shoot in low light conditions with closer subjects the 70-200 F2.8 is brilliant and one of the sharpest lenses I know - cheers Janine
Janine, first off, your AMAZING at helping teach me good photo tips and tricks and instructional videos on my wildlife shooting. I only wish I could afford one of your Pangolin photo safaris!!! Keep up the amazing job!
Very informative and real world review....scoring made sense without discouraging either model...just a very neat and well presented review... thank you....looking forward to watching more reviews....live in the Rockies and looking forward to some nice nature shots this spring. I must say, with all due respect, you are an absolute pleasure to look at.
Good review. A minor misinformation around 12:30 that Canon single digits cameras do not have flip screens. In reality Canon 6D Mark II has a flip vari-angle screen.
I clicked on this video mostly because it is Janine. Such an elegant beauty 😮😍. I'll stop typing now so I can concentrate on enjoying the eye candy.......
Many thanks for review! I am "wildlife" heavy trucks photographer in automotive magazine, and have used 7d more than 12 years day by day with only one repair. So, now i have choosen 7d mark ll, cause often im working in really tough weather conditions like rain, snow, dirty roads etc. And l need to have very fast camera, to make shots like running through the snow. So, my choice in 2022 is 7d mark ll
Hi Michael, thanks for watching my video. It is a fantastic camera!!! A little note on the side that I hadn't mentioned in the video. You can fine adjust your AF functions in the green menu and really improve it drastically. Enjoy playing with it and stay safe...
@@janinekrayer2499 Thanks for saying that because I have the 90D and one can fine tune this camera just like the 7D. Sensor in 90D is also bigger, newer, and they both have the dual focus system. I vote 90D.
I am a Nikon shooter,. but this review is very helpful for me as well.I think we all have our own favorites in cameras and lenses, each of us is an individual who prefers a different type of photography .So there is always something for everyone.As long as you are happy :). We also have dreams of buying a better gear, but not always we can simply afford.But I tried to make the best of whatever I have , I need to appreciate.Thank you very much Janine for your great review on both cameras in such a spectacular garden.Very helpful and useful.
Hi Margaret, thanks so much for watching my review and I am glad it helped. Even if we cannot afford certain gear (I am facing the same problem often)... it helps to understand the potential and limitations of our own cameras. That being said: there has been some great deals out there for the 7Dii since the 90D came out.
Well, there are detailed settings for the AF system in Custom Function II. I wish reviewers spent some time to get to know the equipment before the review.
I loved the video and comparison between 7Dii and 90D. Started out with a 400D, then 7D and now the 7Dii. It is a great camera only let down by the AA filter which does effect IQ. I wish canon would do a firmware update to squeeze more performance outfit the hardware, or offer some internal hardware upgrade. As the 7Dii still has a very large owner following who have not, and probably will not upgrade to a newer body.
Great video. I used to shoot with the 7Dii but felt really restricted by the limitations on using high ISO. I didn't like pushing the 7Dii above ISO1000. It was for that reason I actually moved to the 5Div which as a full frame gives me a much better ISO performance and I don't feel I have lost the reach from the cropped sensor.
Thank you Janine Krayer, we purchased a new 7D mk11 (G) because of your review and we love it, it is a classic camera, (the Mercedes Benz of Crop Cameras), we know all about how great new "mirror-less" cameras are but there is something special about these older cameras,
I have owner both the 7D and the 7dMK2. Hands down the mk2 is the best I’ve owned. Performance overall is top notch. Started with the early digital rebel 20d, 5d mk1,40d, 7D and now the mk2. Favorite lens 135 f2 and 100-400mm mk1. Had the 85mm f1.2 but sold it as it wasn’t being used much. Cheers
Very fair review - so difficult to compare what are virtually home computers for photography in 5 points and I have no problem with the conclusions. I would like to add however, that in addition to 4k video, blue-tooth compatibility and various other modern additions, the 90D includes focus bracketing software. For quality images I tend to use my 5D mIV (wonderful camera) but I got the 90 D for versatility and reduced weight in the field. The focus bracketing works with my Canon macro lens, my 100-400mm and the 24-105 mm lenses. So focus bracketing can have the widest possible application.
Getting ready to upgrade from my Canon Rebel T5 i and I was considering the 7D MK ii. Mainly because the lenses I own and have been using are compatible and it will save me from having to purchase new lenses. I use my camera for multiple purposes such as outdoor sporting events, indoor concerts, weddings, nature, and wildlife.
I recently picked up a 7D Mark ii and it is a solid performer. If you don't think you will need the flip out screen or are not pining for 4K video then it is a strong performer. I think it will feel much more robust and flexible and a much better performer for sports and wildlife than the T5i.
My T5i is a real workhorse. Been shooting with it since 2015. Of course there are better cameras but the lenses are the heart of the image as much as a persons eye. I think I’m going to purchase the 90D. Enough of an upgrade for me.
@@machia0705 I ended up getting a 90D also. I think the 7D Mark II is still a great camera for this kind of wildlife or sport photography usage. However I too had been used to a T3i and so the flip out screen and eventually my desire for 4K became a motivation. If going mirrorless is still a ways off and you've invested in EF(-S) lenses then yes I think the 90D might be the one.
Thank you for your info. As a 7DII user since it came out many years ago, I was curious how the 90D would compare. Given that I rented one and shot with it Feb 5 - 12th in Sanibel, Florida. I agree with virtually all your thoughts. Some add'l insights are: * 90D doesn't have a dual back button focus. Dual Back Button is important to me depending on BIF or still shot * 90D with 1.4TC and 100-400 II Image quality outperformed the 7DII with the same lens configuration * 90D AF initially for BIF in Flight was "very bad". After making multiple AF adjustments the AF system went from "very bad" to almost good enough In conclusion, for me, if there was a 7DIII with flip screen, Touch screen, Dual Back Button, 32MB sensor, and most of all equal or better than 7D II AF system I would consider buying. But for now, I can't justify the 90D
Hi Ken. Thanks for your very useful comments re 7DII vs 90D. I want to upgrade from my 450D and I do Sports, Aviation and Birds, so focus tracking is really important for me. As I don't forsee Canon doing a 7DIII I have a choice to make - get a 7DII or 90D? Jury is split 7DII with great focus tracking , weather sealed or 90D with its updated processing and features? Jury is still undecided..
Hi Ken, thanks so much for watching my video. I can only agree with all your added insights. I would suggest to just weight a few more weeks. The big step from Canon has been announced. No more professional DSLRs will be released. I am dying to get my fingers on the new mirrorless cameras
@@mroc48 it’s a gut feeling that Canon won’t release anything like the 7D series in a mirrorless format, instead they want you to go full frame. Instead I feel they will offer a 90D equivalent in mirrorless.
Having shot both, I recently choose the 90D for the better overall image quality & High ISO capabilities when shooting larger animals. Use my 1Dx Mark II or 5D Mark IV for birds in flight.
Great review. I've been thinking of upgrading my 7D mark 1. I do a lot of dog photography so AI servo is absolutely vital for me. 7DII seems a much better option for my usage. Cheaper too!
Hi Neil, thanks so much for your feedback. If you shoot the dogs mostly in good light conditions I would go with the 7Dii as it has adopted the focus of the former 1Dxi. It is fantastic. However, if you do struggle with light conditions you will not be happy to shoot the 7Dii with much more than ISO2000/2500
In Wildlife photography, I see my future not just for hobby but in this I want to take a lens so that I can start with that lens by taking the best picture.
There’s an important difference between the two cameras and although it’s not relevant in every scenario, it may make a difference in the final output, that’s metering accuracy. I’ve tested both cameras and noticed that 7DMKII prevents blown out highlights in contrasting backgrounds better than 90D. If there’s a white or bright object in the scene, and you’re using the optical viewfinder, it’s more than likely that it will be blown out by the 90D, it only happens in rare occasions when shooting with the 7D MKII under the same conditions.
Thank you very much for the video. Very appreciated. I would only mention that even 90D has the option to tune the autofocus in regarss tracking sensitivity and stickyness, but it's hidden in the custom functions, C.Fn II :Autofocus. Well, I know 7DII's more customizable and better, but 90D has some degree of customization too.
Sorry that you missed that the 90 d has allmost the same degree of customization of the autofocus. You can easily change the tracking sensitivity for exampel..so it would be interesting to see a new test of the autofocus
The 90D is much harder to customize than any of the higher end bodies so much so that one is less likely to do it, especially in the field. How easy something is to do in the menu is a big deal, which is the reason I avoid Sony cameras.
G L - given that the 90D is missing AF options like 4 and 8-point expansion, and no easy way to change between AF modes on the fly, during action, the 90D is just not equipped to do what the 7D2, and all higher end Canon bodies, do. It is not just a matter of tracking since once you lose the subject, it is unlikely that you will get it back if it is a fast moving bird or other animal. That is why the higher end bodies have those additional feature which are not in the 90D. It is meant for a different type of shooter, and it’s price reflects this.
Hi Pogi, you must enjoy it fully. A little note on the side that I hadn't mentioned in the video. You can finde adjust your AF functions in the green menu and really improve it drastically. Enjoy playing with it
I have both the 90D and 7D Mark II but I really can't say which one I like better for wildlife photography. The 7D Mark II is definitely designed for outdoors and the 90D has newer technology......so I can't decide. I use both of them for wildlife photography, as well as my 5D Mark IV.
I just wanted to comment on your statement re 7dii battery life.. My first outing with my 7dii was to an airshow, I had a new n battery and a 32gb Transcend Cf card inserted initially. I decided I would change the card when the first battery started to switch off the camera due to low power. I had filled that card with over 3500 jpegs on a single battery. Admittedly GPS was disabled and image preview set to only a few seconds. I was shooting in long bursts but I was also turning the camera off when I wasnt shooting.
Hi Ian, thanks so much for watching my video. We are often many hours in the bush shooting wildlife without access to any power sources and therefore it makes a big difference at the end. But you are right, it is much better in comparison to a lot of mirroless cameras
Help an amateur out here please: With all the focus points that it looks like you have to manually select, how on earth do you find the time to switch between them while shooting something as dynamic as a bird in motion? Are you really shooting, pausing briefly, adjusting the point manually and then shooting again? If so is there a way to leave the focus points up on the LCD while shooting for quicker alteration?
You'll generally just use the camera's autofocus, but if the camera selects the wrong subject you can use the AF point select to give the camera's AF system some help as to what you are trying to focus on. Suppose you were focusing on a bird in a tree - quite a few of the AF points would be in focus, so you want to tell the camera that the bird is the thing you are interested in by selecting that AF point. Then when the bird flies away and you track it, the camera will maintain the focus on the bird even if it moves to a different AF point. At least, in theory. You can also select AF area rather than points, which can be useful for larger subjects. You can select AF points using your right thumb on the joystick with your eye pressed to the viewfinder, it's not hard.
I guess that she just didn't know the correct place in the menu for those settings in 90D. Strange thing with Canon is that in different models same settings can be located in totally different menu location. I upgraded my 80D to 90D, and even between those two models some settings have been relocated. Very confusing. Took some time to find the setting to enable AF-overdrive for my STM lenses. For a moment I thought that my 90D was broken / had FW bug. 7D Mk II has more focusing points, no question about it. But also 90D seems to work quite nicely when focusing on targets. Specially AF in LiveView is like a dream. Big step forward vs 80D I say. All in all, these photo tutorial videos from pangolin are cute, me like a lot!
She had the same mindset with mine. I prefer 90D is because of the image quality and IS in videos. But as for tracking and brust mode. 7Dii stands out because of the CF card. In terms for wildlife, i will prefer the 7Dii, however if you want a camera with general purpose 90D is better.
Love my 7D2 paired with a Sigma 150-600 for wildlife. Such a beast setup at a reasonable cost without spending too much for a far reach setup. Works great for airplanes and airshows also. I will likely never get rid of my 7D2 even if it is long in the tooth. Its a great camera and still relevant.
Just got my Mk II today, after trading in my beloved 7D. Really looking forward to putting it through its paces. The first lens I put on it was my 24-105.
@@amardaman3371 It's a fantastic pairing! The 24-105 has become my favorite, go-to lens, and it works beautifully with my 7D Mk II, as well as my 1DX Mk III. It's also been great on my new R6 Mk II, using the EF > RF adapter. Just an all-around excellent and versatile lens.
I have used the 250D for a while and I get really annoyed at the autofocus going wrong with the sigma 18-35 when using the optical viewfinder. Maybe an old 7D may solve that problem.
I don't have the 'battery life' differences that you mention, shooting with a 7d MkII since it first came out, the very first day. Are you comparing LP-E6 battery to the LP-E6N that comes with the newer cameras come with?
5d iv if you want great details. 90d is new camera, with fully articulating screen, more battery life, 32.5 mp crop sensor. You can buy 90d if you will not be sooo much hard-core in photography. Otherwise go for 5div
Very nice real world review, it's great to hear from people who really use them so make real comments. I have the 80D and the weight and bulk is a real benefit for climbing / hiking - where you need a 400 5.6, 70-200 2.8 and a wide zoom with you and you don't want a big bag! My wife has the 760D and this is too small for me -I have no idea how I'd manage with a small mirrorless, especially with a 400 / 500mm lens - the 760D is ok with 400 but to small for 500. Mirrorless battery life is also a concern for me and the real viewfinder is great - tried EVF for 2 days and din't get a feel for it. However you have a more "pro" viewpoint and it's clear the 7D has big advantages, the weight is the only issue. I'm rarely above iso 1600, but the 80D is ok up to 3600, above is never so nice. A great review which got me listenning and thinking - more please - the best out there!
Hi Andrew, thanks so much for watching my video. I believe the new mirrorless are ergonomically quite nicely build. After Canon's recent announcement I cannot wait to test them! They have been watching everyone else pave the way so I am expecting a big bang
Your still images always appear to be pin sharp. Do you turn off the image stabilising system on you cameras and lenses when using a tripod and/or monopod. Thank you for the excellent videos. Alun
I've been thinking if I should upgrade from the 7D to the 7D mark ii ? I don't have the Budget for the New R7 Mirrorless and while the Animal eye tracking sounds like it would be a blessing , I have hold of a friends R7 and found it's Small size would be a curse for my large male hands! After using the 7d for a while now I find as long as you get the exposure pushing to the right and get a clean shots at fast shutter speeds I can clean up the High ISO noise in software just means a longer workflow later in post....
an opinion on the Canon EOS 7D Mark ii and the 6D MARKII? ... THANK YOU.....I was told that my 7d with 18Mpixels does not have enough detail for bird photos, I have a 70/200 2.8 lens with 2x duplicator and I have noticed lack of sharpness when I zoom to 100% and defined outlines, I don't know what to do can give me an opinion please thanks
Hi Joao, I would definitely go for the much newer and full frame 6d... but you will lack reach regardless... 200mm is just often not enough for bird photography... it id not your 7Dmkii that is the problem here but your focal range... cheers Janine
Great review. I've been using the 7Dmkii for 5 years, have travelled the world with it and still love using it today. Just ordered a Tamron 150-600mm G2 as I'm really getting into wildlife photography. Wish they'd do a 7Dmkiii as I like the professional camera but don't want to go full frame.
first of all this is hands down the best comparison video on here, ive owned my 7dmkii for around 4 years now and its took an absolute beating and its still going strong to this day. i also use a battery grip on mine so i get the extra shots without having to mess around swapping them out
There's a great bird photographer with a channel in RUclips, I forget his name, sorry. He compared the D500 with a Sony A9 and had a fairly comparable hit rate. There were differences like the D500 images had more detail due to the lens being magnified by the crop sensor, the A9 being cleaner in low light. I found the video. Search "Nikon D500 VS Sony A9 - Bird Photography - Best Experience to Date!" His name is Mark Smith.
Great contribution, after the failure with the Eos RP on moving objects I decided on the 90D together with the Sigma lenses 18-35 (Landscape, Street) 150-600Contemporary with 1.4 teleconverter and the 70-200 Sport with 2-fold teleconverter, let's see if I can get the 7DMKII as a used body at a good price she can then move in, Greetings from Germany, Markus
Thank you, great review ! I have been looking at the 90 D but its less rugged body is my main reason to hesitate. The better noise level at 6400 ISO is a definite plus and also the flip out screen, I think Canons main reason for not incorporate it in its "single figure models" is that its much easiier to break or damage that compared to the solid screens. I have the 70 D since many years, think I bought it 2013 when my old 7D mk 1 broke down and its ok but then when 7D mk2 came out that was soo much better, I still use that mostly for wildlife/ nature photography in northern Sweden ´(Lapland). That great noise at 6400 Iso is my reason to still consider 90 D seriously. so thanks for showing that so clear. Still hoping for a 7D MK 3... Bo Nilsson Sweden
Hi Bo, thanks so much for watching my video. The new Canon announcement has been very exciting. We will see a replacement for the 7Dmkiii but definitely not a DSLR anymore. We were supposed to test the new gear now in April, however, in the current situations it has sadly been postponed. Despite my reluctance with mirrorless I believe the lenses are absolutely outstanding and the image quality often improved due to the shorter distance between the lens mount and the sensor. Excited for the new stuff!!!... Stay safe
I have been using the 7DII since 2014, mainly for wildlife but its very capable in all areas of photography, I've used it in tandem with my full-frame shooting weddings. People seem to have it in their minds its a wildlife camera only. I have found it is the great for all kinds of photography. I turned off the GPS and never had an issue with battery life.That said I dont like to take it over ISO 3200 so thats when I will use my 5DIII. I personally find my 7DII more fun to use. As for the 90D I think I prefer the bodies of the 7DII and 5DIII so I probably wont go to any double number canon camera
Hi Julie, thanks so much for watching my video. I have also used the 7Dmkii for plenty of other occasions and it is great. The lighter body of the 90D can be nice especially if you have to work through an entire wedding but I like the robustness of it.
I am struggling mightily to get focused motion pictures of birds in flight. I seem to be able to get all of my dog playing in the backyard clear as a bell, but when I head to the field it all blows up. I have a 7d MkII and am using a 70-300mm II USM lens. It seems that anything I zoom into at 300 mm is a waste. Never clear. It’s hard for me to believe that it’s the camera and lens combination since I know you shoot this as well. My settings generally are AI servo, 2500-3200 shutter speed. 5.6 ap and auto ISO. I welcome any input. Enjoy your channel very much. Look forward to hearing back. Thanks, Rick M.
Have you checked if your camera is maybe not focussing properly? Might be back or front focusing? This will have a big impact on smaller subjects. Watch this: ruclips.net/video/ReC-xnYPX3Q/видео.html. Let us know how you get on.
Great video, and what a beautiful spot for photos!! Great comparison, thank you for uploading, it was good to hear about the buffer etc. I recently found out that tracking sensitivity on 90D can be adjusted in customer controls. Canon has a live chat now and they can guide through the camera settings if required.
What a super comparison video, straight to the point on both cameras and makes me happy I bought the 7D Mark II. I also like knowing the 7D has built in GPS, Intervalometer, and decent enough ISO performance. Yet the 90D sounds strong in many other areas, especially the flip screen ( had one on my Canon G3 a century ago ) and they are very nice for composition. Hard to decide best.
Merci beaucoup pour ce comparatif. Je fais de la photo animalière et j'hésitais beaucoup entre ces deux modèles. Finalement j'opte pour le le 7 D Marck ii.
Wow, you must be strong seeing how you're handling those bulky cameras with ease. I was struggling with the tiny Sony A6400 while shooting for a couple of hours.
Dear Janine, i am a canon user and want to upgrade from a 77D, for better image quality with a variety of uses (birds, landscape, etc.). I was considering this 90D, but it seems the focus tracking and ‘stickyness’ isn’t all we might hope for. But the new R6 supposedly is better for that, and it should have lower noise and better dynamic range. Might you be planning to test it anytime soon? And, do you have any hesitancies due to its comparatively low megapixel level? Thanks much, Craig
HI I have a Question in regards to which camera has the Quieter shutter sound? From what I can find out the 90D is Quieter in liveview mode but that is not very practical to me!
I have only just found this review and thoroughly enjoyed watching it. I have a 7D MkII and have already replaced the top part of the body as a result of rain ingress. I wouldn't fit the large battery pack as it increases the weight too much. I just carry a couple of batteries in my pocket. Hand holding any large digital camera with a heavy lens on a pelagic trip (8 hours) overall weight is a significant consideration as you quite rightly pointed out. I also can't understand why Canon doesn't have the flip screens on their pro bodies. I noticed the new Sony mirrorless cameras have them. Janine, If you have time I would be very interested to find out how you have your Autofocus tracking sensitivity set up on your cameras, please.
Hi John, I usually have my tracking sensitivity set on very unresponsive so that I don't loose my subject too fast once I pick it up. However, I have it in my custom menu and change it when the scenario requires it
I am really confused between Canon 7D Mark II and Nikon D7500 to purchase now. Which one should I get for bird and wildlife photography and fantastic image quality? Please reply. PLEASE
Hi there, Nice review however i have a small remark. 😊 You are off in the comparison in regards to the AF. The 90D’s AF is way better. It’s true in the 7DM2 is a separate AF menu. But each and every setting can be made also in the 90D. There is no menu with cases. But one can create easy a customised AF menu in the green section with exact the same as in the 7DMII. The technical details of the AF for the 90D are way better😏 btw i own both bodies.
Hi Boschtra, thanks for watching my video. Yes you are right as you can fine adjust your AF functions in the green menu and really improve it drastically. However, it doesn't match the 7Dmkii remotely in my eyes.
You mentioned that Canon doesn't have a flip screen in the single-digit models. Well, the 6D Mark II as a full frame single digit camera has a flip-screen and some other interesting features. Did you ever had a look on this camera?
What is your “dream” camera body and lens combo for wildlife photography? Let us know in the comments below...
Dream? Probably an A9ii with a 600mm F4 but realistically a 200 2.8 for my G9
@@JoeMaranophotography that would be a great combo... but you will definitely need a shorter zoom lens with that 600mm fix.
@@janinekrayer2499 Most of my shots are at the long end of my Panasonic Leica 100-400 so that's 800mm reach :)
A 90d with the 7D ii focus system :-)
@Russell Wood Pants. It's DSLR and dead tech. It can do wildlife and pretty much just that at an insane price.
I own a 90D and love the flip screen. I have shot in the rain and it just keeps a ticking, no worries there. The camera works well shooting wild life, you just got to experiment with the menu. The winner for me the 90D
these people also keep forgetting to account its price as well
90D 👎....foco melhora utilizando apenas obturador eletrônico!
The 90d is a bit more expensive to be fair at least used. Although if you can afford the extra few hundred go for it! 32mp with a great af system along with it being a newer body I believe is amazing.
I sold my 90D and purchased the 7D MK II and now I am much happier. Focus nailed every time.
90D só melhora o foco um pouco utilizando obturador eletrônico!
I could listen to you talk all day. So intelligent and articulate. Wonderful review, Janine.
90D *Autofocus Adjustment Functions* are in the Custom Functions :) regarding 4:22
Custom Functions II: Autofocus.
*Tracking Sensitivity* (C.Fn II-1): Related to the AI Servo AF mode; this setting controls how much the autofocus system reacts when an object other than your subject enters the focusing area or when your subject strays from the focusing points.
Accel./Decel. Tracking (C.Fn II-2): This one is also related to AI Servo AF mode; the default setting is designed for subjects moving at a fixed speed. The other settings are geared to subjects that are moving erratically.
AF Point Auto Switching (C.Fn II-3): This sets the AF point switching sensitivity when tracking moving objects. In other words, you can control how responsive the system is when it needs to switch AF points.
AI Servo 1st Image Priority (C.Fn II-4): When you use one of the Continuous Drive modes and AI Servo AF mode, this setting determines whether the camera takes the first shot as soon as the shutter button is pressed, even if focus is not yet achieved. You can tell the camera to wait for focusing to occur (choose the Focus Priority setting) or to go ahead and take the shot (choose Release Priority). The default, Equal Priority, tries to achieve a balance between the two.
AI Servo 2nd Image Priority (C.Fn II-5): This function controls what happens for shots taken after the first shot when you’re using Continuous shooting and AI Servo AF mode. Choose Shooting Speed Priority to make achieving the maximum frames per second rate the priority; choose Focus Priority to restrict the camera to taking the shot after focus is achieved. The default setting gives equal priority to both concerns.
Select AF Area Selection Mode (C.Fn II-7): By default, the 90D rotates through all five AF Area Selection Modes when you press the AF Area Selection Mode button when using the viewfinder. You can customize this by removing those you don’t want to see from this rotation. The only exeption (you knew there was going to be one!) is Manual Selection: 1-Point AF. It stays, whether you want to see it or not.
Limit AF Methods (C.Fn II-8): Like the previous function, this setting limits the AF methods you can use, only when you are shooting in Live View.
Orientation Linked AF Point (C.Fn II-10): Normally, the AF Area mode you select, as well as the AF point or zone you choose, remain in effect whether you orient the camera horizontally or vertically. If you change this setting to Select Separate AF Points, the camera remembers the settings you choose while holding the camera horizontally, vertically with the grip on top, and vertically with the grip on the bottom. Then when you rotate the camera, it automatically shifts to those settings.
*Initial Servo AF* (C.Fn II-11): This option controls which AF point the AI Servo AF or Servo AF uses when the AF Area Selection mode is set to Automatic Selection AF for the viewfinder or the AF Method is set to Face+Tracking in Live View. By default, the system selects whichever AF point it thinks is best. However, you can change this behavior and pre-select an AF point to start on, whether preset or the last one you used.
AF Point Selection Movement (C.Fn II-13): By default, when you’re selecting an autofocus point, you hit a wall when you reach the edge of the grid of autofocus points. If you change this menu option to Continuous, the selection instead wraps around the viewfinder by jumping to the point on the opposite side. This function applies to viewfinder shooting only.
Thank you!
Thanks for this detailed information on 90D's AF!!
Thanks for this - ive just bought a 90D.
This was a great video. Hard to find such a non-flashy, objectively based review video that really focus on REAL world pros/cons - and just not just pro/cons for youtubers/vloggers! Thank you very much.
Thank you very much for the comparison between these both cameras in terms of wild life photography. Concerning the autofocus issue of 90d (lost the Focus of bird) I want to comment that from technical point of view many Canon cameras like 1dxmii, 7dmii, 80d, 90d,... are using one and the same parameters in order to configure the autofocus performance. These parameters are so called "Tracking sensitivity", "Accel./Decel tracking" and "AF pt Auto switching". The SW algo using these parameters as input is in every camera the same, I guess. Only the hardware is different. As far as I know the autofocus HW module for the optical view finder of 90d is a new development derived from the one of 1dxmii. Thus, I wonder why the performance of 90d in terms of tracking birds shall be worse than 7dmii. For sure the 7dmii as well as the 1dxmii are capable to offer pre-configured autofocus settings in its menu so called case1...case6. Which allows to access different focus situations very quickly. But these pre-configurations do only use the three parameters mentioned above in different combinations. Thus, I recommend to configure the 90d in the same way as the 7dmii in order to compare the bird tracking capability. When I have a look to the pre-configurations, I would prefer to use case 2 for bird photography. The parameters are set as follows: "Tracking sensitivity = -1", "Accel./Decel tracking = 0" and "AF pt Auto switching = 0". I assume the Tracking sensitivity value is in this case the root cause for losing the focus in the 90d. Thus I recommend to change this value to minus one in the 90d CFn.II autofocus menu. Whereby “-1” means that the focus remains longer on the motif and doesn’t change to other items appearing in the image behind or in front of the original motif.
Thanks Konny for the useful tip
Thank you so much.
Hi Konny, thanks for watching my video. You are absolutely correct. You can finde adjust your AF functions in the green menu and really improve it drastically, however, that feature is a bit hidden away.
Bueno, eso quiere decir que el video de análisis no fue realmente "en profundidad". Quiero comprar una cámara para naturaleza y creo que antes ver videos, es mejor descargar los manuales. Saludos desde Perú.
A year ago I got a Canon 100-400 zoom and I almost bought a 90D as a second body for it (I already had an 80D). I came across this video and saw that the 7Dii autofocus was much better than 80/90D, so I bought a new 7Dii and grip instead at a very good price. I confirm that this video is spot on, the 7Dii blows the 80D into the weeds on quickly changing autofocus for birds. I also find the 7Dii much better in other ways; faster, quieter, better sealed, better exposition with and without flash, and the CF card is way faster copying off onto a PC than an SD card. Thanks again for the excellent advice!
Autofocus tracking sensitivity IS AVAILABLE on the 90D.. just not as a separate menu item but you can register the individual tracking items in the MY Menu. Also: Autofocus tracking for BIF is made better by disabling the Face and ITR (also in the setup menus). You didnt' mention any of this in your review.
Yes, she missed this point
90d works like 7d mark 2? i mean autofocus
Chaim is correct.
The 90D does NOT have a 50mp sensor its 32MP a mistake on the review also.
Also annoying she said the 7D mkii wins for auto focus points because it beats the cross type viewfinder by 20 points, yet says nothing about the 5481 points available in live view along with the WAY more advanced iTR AF it has. You can customize the AF insanely on this camera, just doesn't have a designated page to do it. Everything's in the custom modes menu.
I dunno, I appreciate reviews to get opinions of real world issues and comparisons but blindly reading off basic spec info from Best Buy's web page doesn't cut it.
I wish Canon would release a 7D mkIII (I just love how indestructible the 7D cameras are)... But nowadays it's all about mirrorless.
Roberto Prestigiacomo i wish bro, with photo burst 15 fps,
they did mention it in the rumors, however, they launched 90D instead.
Boo mirrorless!
well there’s a rumoured aps-c RF mount camera coming called R7 that looks to be an awesome mirrorless 7D replacement
Noel Chignell yes a mirrorless 7D replacement would be even better 👌
bedankt voor de tip
Had the chance of handling a friend's 90D and discovered that there is a Autofocus chapter in the menu of 90D as well, similar to those of 7D ii or 5D iv. I don’t know if It's exactly same as those of single digit cameras', but fine tuning of AF tracking sensitivity /responsiveness, acceleration/deceleration etc are available in 90D as well.
Yes it's just not in a dedicated menu
As well as the 80D.
upgraded my set up from a t5 to a used 7d mkii recently and I have to say that I am blown away that a camera that old is so fast and reliable. From my experience buying a used 7d mkii for a budget nature photography setup if you can find them in good condition for cheap enough is a great option.
I too "upgraded" to a 7D mk II recently and the sharp focus is really amazing! I tend to do a lot of bird photography, and the 7D mk II has not disappointed!!!!!
Just bought a used one. Gonna get a used EF 400mm f/5.6 with it.
@@birbs4life174 I’m struggling trying to find ones in good condition with low shutter counts. Where did u find yours?
@@cbgnet, off eBay. I got lucky; the one I received had a shutter count of 1,000.
This comparison video was ABSOLUTELY OUTSTANDING! I am a basketball photographer here in Japan and have been contemplating these two for some time. Thank you very much...and I’ve subscribed.
Hi, thanks so much for watching my video. Really really appreciate. We have been trying to get more new gear up here to the Chobe but were unfortunately stopped by all the quarantine. Stay safe!
Some corrections out of my experience:
1. the 90D does have a comprehensive autofucus menu, with all of the options she claimed were missing and more!
2. The tracking of the optical view in the 90D is superior to the live view's one, at least for wildlife photography, as it's faster
3.the high pixels density of the 90D requires the use of high revolving lenses (100-400 ii is a great choice) and higher than usual shutter speed- once these two are utilized the result would be far superior to the 7d ii
I appreciate the time spent on making this video and do consider it's release date which was close to the 90D release but the 90D is a far superior camera to the 7D mark ii, not even mentioning its video capabilities which are fantastic!
Hi Janine,
THX for your vid.
On 3 July 2020, I order a Canon 90 D. So far so good.
Then I read your chapter about 90d vs 7dii.
On 18 July 2020, I order a NEW Canon 7 D ii.
Now I must learn a lot, but the menus are simple.
I learn also from RUclips, and I net.
My last CANON was a Canon FTb, that was in 1972.
After that, I use LUMIX and NIKON and LEICA.
The sound from the Mirror makes me Happy again!
Still, I look to the NEW Canon R 5 and the new lenses 600- and 800- mm.
Cheers, Frits from Thailand *_* [65-year friendship with the Shutter]
Hi Jeanine. I have been debating on whether I should buy the 70-200 iii. Or the 70-200 II. But been also looking at the 100-400mm II and or the 150-600mm sigma. I will be using on the canon 90d. I want you to help me decide or narrow it down. Since the 90d it’s a bit picky because of the 32.5 mg pixel. Sorry it’s a big question. If you already have those comparisons let me know so I can check it out. Thank you 🙏 for all the wisdom you have shared with us all so far.
Hi Malinois, that really depends on what you want to be photographing. the 70-200mm will mostly come short when you want to shoot birds or wildlife... the 100-400mm or the 150-600mm will be better suited for that... However, if you mostly shoot in low light conditions with closer subjects the 70-200 F2.8 is brilliant and one of the sharpest lenses I know - cheers Janine
Janine, first off, your AMAZING at helping teach me good photo tips and tricks and instructional videos on my wildlife shooting. I only wish I could afford one of your Pangolin photo safaris!!! Keep up the amazing job!
12:22 - We can. The only single digit (and full frame at the same time) DSLR model to have flip screen is *6D Mark II* .
Very informative and real world review....scoring made sense without discouraging either model...just a very neat and well presented review... thank you....looking forward to watching more reviews....live in the Rockies and looking forward to some nice nature shots this spring. I must say, with all due respect, you are an absolute pleasure to look at.
Hi John, thanks so much.. we have been in lock down for so long that we struggle to get gear in unfortunately
Good review. A minor misinformation around 12:30 that Canon single digits cameras do not have flip screens. In reality Canon 6D Mark II has a flip vari-angle screen.
Hi, thanks for the info! That is great to know
I clicked on this video mostly because it is Janine. Such an elegant beauty 😮😍. I'll stop typing now so I can concentrate on enjoying the eye candy.......
Do you realize how creepy you sound?
Many thanks for review! I am "wildlife" heavy trucks photographer in automotive magazine, and have used 7d more than 12 years day by day with only one repair. So, now i have choosen 7d mark ll, cause often im working in really tough weather conditions like rain, snow, dirty roads etc. And l need to have very fast camera, to make shots like running through the snow. So, my choice in 2022 is 7d mark ll
I own the 90D, and it is an impressive piece of equipment, and for me, it is my go to camera.
Hi Michael, thanks for watching my video. It is a fantastic camera!!! A little note on the side that I hadn't mentioned in the video. You can fine adjust your AF functions in the green menu and really improve it drastically. Enjoy playing with it and stay safe...
Hey,am in Rwanda, i wish camera and I prefer photography but am poor I cant buy my own camera,😓😓😢😢😢😢
@@janinekrayer2499 Thanks for saying that because I have the 90D and one can fine tune this camera just like the 7D. Sensor in 90D is also bigger, newer, and they both have the dual focus system. I vote 90D.
I am a Nikon shooter,. but this review is very helpful for me as well.I think we all have our own favorites in cameras and lenses, each of us is an individual who prefers a different type of photography .So there is always something for everyone.As long as you are happy :). We also have dreams of buying a better gear, but not always we can simply afford.But I tried to make the best of whatever I have , I need to appreciate.Thank you very much Janine for your great review on both cameras in such a spectacular garden.Very helpful and useful.
Thank you so much for the positive feedback Margaret. The great thing about photography is that there is 'something for everyone'. 😀
Hi Margaret, thanks so much for watching my review and I am glad it helped. Even if we cannot afford certain gear (I am facing the same problem often)... it helps to understand the potential and limitations of our own cameras. That being said: there has been some great deals out there for the 7Dii since the 90D came out.
Well, there are detailed settings for the AF system in Custom Function II. I wish reviewers spent some time to get to know the equipment before the review.
Hi, you are absolutely correct!
I loved the video and comparison between 7Dii and 90D. Started out with a 400D, then 7D and now the 7Dii. It is a great camera only let down by the AA filter which does effect IQ. I wish canon would do a firmware update to squeeze more performance outfit the hardware, or offer some internal hardware upgrade. As the 7Dii still has a very large owner following who have not, and probably will not upgrade to a newer body.
A real "real world review" by someone who is wildlife photography! Good work! You should try the M6 Mk II too!
yes, but it lacks the weather and dust proofness, so I think it would not really be suitable for wildlife / safaris.
Awesome video and great review! Just subscribed!
Thanks for being such a loyal supporter of our channel... cheers Janine
Great video. I used to shoot with the 7Dii but felt really restricted by the limitations on using high ISO. I didn't like pushing the 7Dii above ISO1000. It was for that reason I actually moved to the 5Div which as a full frame gives me a much better ISO performance and I don't feel I have lost the reach from the cropped sensor.
Hi, yes, you can definitely not compare it to a full frame camera. The 5Dvi is a really fine piece of work!!!
Thank you Janine Krayer, we purchased a new 7D mk11 (G) because of your review and we love it, it is a classic camera, (the Mercedes Benz of Crop Cameras), we know all about how great new "mirror-less" cameras are but there is something special about these older cameras,
Great to hear! Thank you.
both are nice cameras. If you were moving to a new camera would you stay with a mirrored camera or go mirrorless?
I have owner both the 7D and the 7dMK2. Hands down the mk2 is the best I’ve owned. Performance overall is top notch. Started with the early digital rebel 20d, 5d mk1,40d, 7D and now the mk2. Favorite lens 135 f2 and 100-400mm mk1. Had the 85mm f1.2 but sold it as it wasn’t being used much. Cheers
Its a very good camera body!
Very fair review - so difficult to compare what are virtually home computers for photography in 5 points and I have no problem with the conclusions. I would like to add however, that in addition to 4k video, blue-tooth compatibility and various other modern additions, the 90D includes focus bracketing software. For quality images I tend to use my 5D mIV (wonderful camera) but I got the 90 D for versatility and reduced weight in the field. The focus bracketing works with my Canon macro lens, my 100-400mm and the 24-105 mm lenses. So focus bracketing can have the widest possible application.
Great combo of primary and secondary bodies you have there!
@@PangolinWildlife yes, very lucky :)
Getting ready to upgrade from my Canon Rebel T5 i and I was considering the 7D MK ii. Mainly because the lenses I own and have been using are compatible and it will save me from having to purchase new lenses. I use my camera for multiple purposes such as outdoor sporting events, indoor concerts, weddings, nature, and wildlife.
I recently picked up a 7D Mark ii and it is a solid performer. If you don't think you will need the flip out screen or are not pining for 4K video then it is a strong performer. I think it will feel much more robust and flexible and a much better performer for sports and wildlife than the T5i.
My T5i is a real workhorse. Been shooting with it since 2015. Of course there are better cameras but the lenses are the heart of the image as much as a persons eye. I think I’m going to purchase the 90D. Enough of an upgrade for me.
@@machia0705 I ended up getting a 90D also. I think the 7D Mark II is still a great camera for this kind of wildlife or sport photography usage. However I too had been used to a T3i and so the flip out screen and eventually my desire for 4K became a motivation. If going mirrorless is still a ways off and you've invested in EF(-S) lenses then yes I think the 90D might be the one.
I wish canon to make 7d mark iii with articulating screen with 24 mp it would be wonderful.
Me too, me too
@@ScottPrincePhotography hi hmmmm hgj
wishes yes. i wonder whether a mark 3 would ever come ... seeing their development on the RF lens. and mirrorless bodies
I think there will be no new DSLRs models from Canon. But for me personally it okay.
@@SachinSawhney no there won't be a 7Dmkii .. however, the R6 is taking over a lot of the amazing features of the 7D plus it is a full frame body
Outstanding honest comparison, thanks a lot!
Glad you liked it!
Thank you for your info. As a 7DII user since it came out many years ago, I was curious how the 90D would compare. Given that I rented one and shot with it Feb 5 - 12th in Sanibel, Florida. I agree with virtually all your thoughts. Some add'l insights are:
* 90D doesn't have a dual back button focus. Dual Back Button is important to me depending on BIF or still shot
* 90D with 1.4TC and 100-400 II Image quality outperformed the 7DII with the same lens configuration
* 90D AF initially for BIF in Flight was "very bad". After making multiple AF adjustments the AF system went from "very bad" to almost good enough
In conclusion, for me, if there was a 7DIII with flip screen, Touch screen, Dual Back Button, 32MB sensor, and most of all equal or better than 7D II AF system I would consider buying. But for now, I can't justify the 90D
Hi Ken. Thanks for your very useful comments re 7DII vs 90D. I want to upgrade from my 450D and I do Sports, Aviation and Birds, so focus tracking is really important for me. As I don't forsee Canon doing a 7DIII I have a choice to make - get a 7DII or 90D? Jury is split 7DII with great focus tracking , weather sealed or 90D with its updated processing and features? Jury is still undecided..
Hi Ken, thanks so much for watching my video. I can only agree with all your added insights. I would suggest to just weight a few more weeks. The big step from Canon has been announced. No more professional DSLRs will be released. I am dying to get my fingers on the new mirrorless cameras
@@mroc48 it’s a gut feeling that Canon won’t release anything like the 7D series in a mirrorless format, instead they want you to go full frame. Instead I feel they will offer a 90D equivalent in mirrorless.
Having shot both, I recently choose the 90D for the better overall image quality & High ISO capabilities when shooting larger animals. Use my 1Dx Mark II or 5D Mark IV for birds in flight.
Hi Mike, the 1Dxii is obviously in a different league ... same with the 5DIV ... I would probably not go back to the 90 D then.
Such a helpful review. I am one year late but it's still good to watch this comparison :)
Hi, some cameras just stay evergreen for a long time and there is no expiry date. Thanks so much for watching - cheers Janine
Great review. I've been thinking of upgrading my 7D mark 1. I do a lot of dog photography so AI servo is absolutely vital for me. 7DII seems a much better option for my usage. Cheaper too!
Hi Neil, thanks so much for your feedback. If you shoot the dogs mostly in good light conditions I would go with the 7Dii as it has adopted the focus of the former 1Dxi. It is fantastic. However, if you do struggle with light conditions you will not be happy to shoot the 7Dii with much more than ISO2000/2500
In Wildlife photography, I see my future not just for hobby but in this I want to take a lens so that I can start with that lens by taking the best picture.
Yes, a good lens is very important
There’s an important difference between the two cameras and although it’s not relevant in every scenario, it may make a difference in the final output, that’s metering accuracy. I’ve tested both cameras and noticed that 7DMKII prevents blown out highlights in contrasting backgrounds better than 90D. If there’s a white or bright object in the scene, and you’re using the optical viewfinder, it’s more than likely that it will be blown out by the 90D, it only happens in rare occasions when shooting with the 7D MKII under the same conditions.
Thank you very much for the video. Very appreciated. I would only mention that even 90D has the option to tune the autofocus in regarss tracking sensitivity and stickyness, but it's hidden in the custom functions, C.Fn II :Autofocus. Well, I know 7DII's more customizable and better, but 90D has some degree of customization too.
Great tip, thank you RennsportDoc. We appreciate you taking the time to share.
Sorry that you missed that the 90 d has allmost the same degree of customization of the autofocus. You can easily change the tracking sensitivity for exampel..so it would be interesting to see a new test of the autofocus
Michael the maven has a video where he shows the best setup for the autofocus. Turn off facedetection when mot shooting people
The 90D is much harder to customize than any of the higher end bodies so much so that one is less likely to do it, especially in the field. How easy something is to do in the menu is a big deal, which is the reason I avoid Sony cameras.
G L - given that the 90D is missing AF options like 4 and 8-point expansion, and no easy way to change between AF modes on the fly, during action, the 90D is just not equipped to do what the 7D2, and all higher end Canon bodies, do. It is not just a matter of tracking since once you lose the subject, it is unlikely that you will get it back if it is a fast moving bird or other animal. That is why the higher end bodies have those additional feature which are not in the 90D. It is meant for a different type of shooter, and it’s price reflects this.
Thanks, very informative. I just bought the 90D today and arriving tomorrow and so excited...
Hi Pogi, you must enjoy it fully. A little note on the side that I hadn't mentioned in the video. You can finde adjust your AF functions in the green menu and really improve it drastically. Enjoy playing with it
I have both the 90D and 7D Mark II but I really can't say which one I like better for wildlife photography. The 7D Mark II is definitely designed for outdoors and the 90D has newer technology......so I can't decide. I use both of them for wildlife photography, as well as my 5D Mark IV.
Thanks for sharing!
I just wanted to comment on your statement re 7dii battery life..
My first outing with my 7dii was to an airshow, I had a new n battery and a 32gb Transcend Cf card inserted initially. I decided I would change the card when the first battery started to switch off the camera due to low power. I had filled that card with over 3500 jpegs on a single battery. Admittedly GPS was disabled and image preview set to only a few seconds. I was shooting in long bursts but I was also turning the camera off when I wasnt shooting.
Hi Ian, thanks so much for watching my video. We are often many hours in the bush shooting wildlife without access to any power sources and therefore it makes a big difference at the end. But you are right, it is much better in comparison to a lot of mirroless cameras
Useful presentation and comparison. Thanks.
Thanks for watching Borislav
Thanks for the video. I like to take sport fotographi. What should i buy wit low budget for tele lens? I need 300mm lens
Help an amateur out here please: With all the focus points that it looks like you have to manually select, how on earth do you find the time to switch between them while shooting something as dynamic as a bird in motion? Are you really shooting, pausing briefly, adjusting the point manually and then shooting again? If so is there a way to leave the focus points up on the LCD while shooting for quicker alteration?
You'll generally just use the camera's autofocus, but if the camera selects the wrong subject you can use the AF point select to give the camera's AF system some help as to what you are trying to focus on. Suppose you were focusing on a bird in a tree - quite a few of the AF points would be in focus, so you want to tell the camera that the bird is the thing you are interested in by selecting that AF point. Then when the bird flies away and you track it, the camera will maintain the focus on the bird even if it moves to a different AF point. At least, in theory. You can also select AF area rather than points, which can be useful for larger subjects. You can select AF points using your right thumb on the joystick with your eye pressed to the viewfinder, it's not hard.
The 90D has the capacity for 'stickiness'. Perhaps this was added with a recent update to the camera?
I guess that she just didn't know the correct place in the menu for those settings in 90D.
Strange thing with Canon is that in different models same settings can be located in totally different menu location. I upgraded my 80D to 90D, and even between those two models some settings have been relocated. Very confusing. Took some time to find the setting to enable AF-overdrive for my STM lenses. For a moment I thought that my 90D was broken / had FW bug.
7D Mk II has more focusing points, no question about it. But also 90D seems to work quite nicely when focusing on targets.
Specially AF in LiveView is like a dream. Big step forward vs 80D I say.
All in all, these photo tutorial videos from pangolin are cute, me like a lot!
She had the same mindset with mine. I prefer 90D is because of the image quality and IS in videos.
But as for tracking and brust mode. 7Dii stands out because of the CF card. In terms for wildlife, i will prefer the 7Dii, however if you want a camera with general purpose 90D is better.
Love my 7D2 paired with a Sigma 150-600 for wildlife. Such a beast setup at a reasonable cost without spending too much for a far reach setup. Works great for airplanes and airshows also. I will likely never get rid of my 7D2 even if it is long in the tooth. Its a great camera and still relevant.
Can you please make a video on Pentax k 70 and canon 7dmk2 comparison video regards same points mentioned in this video
We can try.
Just got my Mk II today, after trading in my beloved 7D. Really looking forward to putting it through its paces. The first lens I put on it was my 24-105.
How you getting on with the camera and 24-105 combo
@@amardaman3371 It's a fantastic pairing! The 24-105 has become my favorite, go-to lens, and it works beautifully with my 7D Mk II, as well as my 1DX Mk III. It's also been great on my new R6 Mk II, using the EF > RF adapter. Just an all-around excellent and versatile lens.
@@adude394 brilliant. I use it with my 80d. Mines f4
I have used the 250D for a while and I get really annoyed at the autofocus going wrong with the sigma 18-35 when using the optical viewfinder.
Maybe an old 7D may solve that problem.
I always looking forward to your videos, thank you 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🌹
Hi Sana, thanks so much for watching my videos. I really appreciate.
I don't have the 'battery life' differences that you mention, shooting with a 7d MkII since it first came out, the very first day. Are you comparing LP-E6 battery to the LP-E6N that comes with the newer cameras come with?
Excellent comparo, thank you Janine.
Perfect ! many thanks of comparison
Please suggeste to go with the best over 5d mark 4 and 90d. I wanted to buy the best to become a photographer
5d iv if you want great details.
90d is new camera, with fully articulating screen, more battery life, 32.5 mp crop sensor.
You can buy 90d if you will not be sooo much hard-core in photography. Otherwise go for 5div
Very nice real world review, it's great to hear from people who really use them so make real comments.
I have the 80D and the weight and bulk is a real benefit for climbing / hiking - where you need a 400 5.6, 70-200 2.8 and a wide zoom with you and you don't want a big bag!
My wife has the 760D and this is too small for me -I have no idea how I'd manage with a small mirrorless, especially with a 400 / 500mm lens - the 760D is ok with 400 but to small for 500. Mirrorless battery life is also a concern for me and the real viewfinder is great - tried EVF for 2 days and din't get a feel for it.
However you have a more "pro" viewpoint and it's clear the 7D has big advantages, the weight is the only issue.
I'm rarely above iso 1600, but the 80D is ok up to 3600, above is never so nice.
A great review which got me listenning and thinking - more please - the best out there!
Hi Andrew, thanks so much for watching my video. I believe the new mirrorless are ergonomically quite nicely build. After Canon's recent announcement I cannot wait to test them! They have been watching everyone else pave the way so I am expecting a big bang
Your still images always appear to be pin sharp. Do you turn off the image stabilising system on you cameras and lenses when using a tripod and/or monopod. Thank you for the excellent videos. Alun
I've been thinking if I should upgrade from the 7D to the 7D mark ii ? I don't have the Budget for the New R7 Mirrorless and while the Animal eye tracking sounds like it would be a blessing , I have hold of a friends R7 and found it's Small size would be a curse for my large male hands! After using the 7d for a while now I find as long as you get the exposure pushing to the right and get a clean shots at fast shutter speeds I can clean up the High ISO noise in software just means a longer workflow later in post....
an opinion on the Canon EOS 7D Mark ii and the 6D MARKII? ... THANK YOU.....I was told that my 7d with 18Mpixels does not have enough detail for bird photos, I have a 70/200 2.8 lens with 2x duplicator and I have noticed lack of sharpness when I zoom to 100% and defined outlines, I don't know what to do can give me an opinion please thanks
Hi Joao, I would definitely go for the much newer and full frame 6d... but you will lack reach regardless... 200mm is just often not enough for bird photography... it id not your 7Dmkii that is the problem here but your focal range... cheers Janine
Great review.
I've been using the 7Dmkii for 5 years, have travelled the world with it and still love using it today. Just ordered a Tamron 150-600mm G2 as I'm really getting into wildlife photography.
Wish they'd do a 7Dmkiii as I like the professional camera but don't want to go full frame.
first of all this is hands down the best comparison video on here, ive owned my 7dmkii for around 4 years now and its took an absolute beating and its still going strong to this day. i also use a battery grip on mine so i get the extra shots without having to mess around swapping them out
Have you ever compared the Nikon D 500 with these for wildlife?
There's a great bird photographer with a channel in RUclips, I forget his name, sorry. He compared the D500 with a Sony A9 and had a fairly comparable hit rate. There were differences like the D500 images had more detail due to the lens being magnified by the crop sensor, the A9 being cleaner in low light.
I found the video. Search "Nikon D500 VS Sony A9 - Bird Photography - Best Experience to Date!" His name is Mark Smith.
Hi Nicolas, thanks for watching my video. I haven't done a direct comparison at this stage. I am sorry...
@@cooloox Yes,I have seen it. Even the Nikon 850 performs well with good glass. Its capacity to grab a subject and hold in makes it excellent
Great contribution, after the failure with the Eos RP on moving objects
I decided on the 90D together with the Sigma lenses 18-35 (Landscape, Street) 150-600Contemporary with 1.4 teleconverter and the 70-200 Sport with 2-fold teleconverter, let's see if I can get the 7DMKII as a used body at a good price she can then move in, Greetings from Germany, Markus
Excellent review. Thank you...
Glad it was helpful!- cheers Janine
Thank you. Super helpful.
What mm lens do you use?
Thanks Janine for an honest review by the master of the craft. Hope to learn a lot from you in future.
Thank you, great review ! I have been looking at the 90 D but its less rugged body is my main reason to hesitate. The better noise level at 6400 ISO is a definite plus and also the flip out screen, I think Canons main reason for not incorporate it in its "single figure models" is that its much easiier to break or damage that compared to the solid screens. I have the 70 D since many years, think I bought it 2013 when my old 7D mk 1 broke down and its ok but then when 7D mk2 came out that was soo much better, I still use that mostly for wildlife/ nature photography in northern Sweden ´(Lapland). That great noise at 6400 Iso is my reason to still consider 90 D seriously. so thanks for showing that so clear. Still hoping for a 7D MK 3... Bo Nilsson Sweden
Hi Bo, thanks so much for watching my video. The new Canon announcement has been very exciting. We will see a replacement for the 7Dmkiii but definitely not a DSLR anymore. We were supposed to test the new gear now in April, however, in the current situations it has sadly been postponed. Despite my reluctance with mirrorless I believe the lenses are absolutely outstanding and the image quality often improved due to the shorter distance between the lens mount and the sensor. Excited for the new stuff!!!... Stay safe
The EOS 7D MkII has built in GPS. A major benefit over the EOS 90D. The AF toggle switch is a really neat feature on the EOS 7D MkII.
Hi Daniel, thanks for watching my video, that is very true. I generally have it turned off due to poaching reasons though.
Outstanding presentation and comparison. Pleasant delivery. Thanks.
I have been using the 7DII since 2014, mainly for wildlife but its very capable in all areas of photography, I've used it in tandem with my full-frame shooting weddings. People seem to have it in their minds its a wildlife camera only. I have found it is the great for all kinds of photography. I turned off the GPS and never had an issue with battery life.That said I dont like to take it over ISO 3200 so thats when I will use my 5DIII. I personally find my 7DII more fun to use. As for the 90D I think I prefer the bodies of the 7DII and 5DIII so I probably wont go to any double number canon camera
Hi Julie, thanks so much for watching my video. I have also used the 7Dmkii for plenty of other occasions and it is great. The lighter body of the 90D can be nice especially if you have to work through an entire wedding but I like the robustness of it.
I am struggling mightily to get focused motion pictures of birds in flight. I seem to be able to get all of my dog playing in the backyard clear as a bell, but when I head to the field it all blows up. I have a 7d MkII and am using a 70-300mm II USM lens. It seems that anything I zoom into at 300 mm is a waste. Never clear. It’s hard for me to believe that it’s the camera and lens combination since I know you shoot this as well. My settings generally are AI servo, 2500-3200 shutter speed. 5.6 ap and auto ISO. I welcome any input. Enjoy your channel very much. Look forward to hearing back.
Thanks, Rick M.
Have you checked if your camera is maybe not focussing properly? Might be back or front focusing? This will have a big impact on smaller subjects. Watch this: ruclips.net/video/ReC-xnYPX3Q/видео.html. Let us know how you get on.
How would the 70D compare with a mirrorless today 2020 for wildlife photography?
Great video, and what a beautiful spot for photos!! Great comparison, thank you for uploading, it was good to hear about the buffer etc. I recently found out that tracking sensitivity on 90D can be adjusted in customer controls. Canon has a live chat now and they can guide through the camera settings if required.
Glad you enjoyed it
Very interesting and rare video, thank you! Best regards).
Thanks so much
What a super comparison video, straight to the point on both cameras and makes me happy I bought the 7D Mark II. I also like knowing the 7D has built in GPS, Intervalometer, and decent enough ISO performance. Yet the 90D sounds strong in many other areas, especially the flip screen ( had one on my Canon G3 a century ago ) and they are very nice for composition. Hard to decide best.
Merci beaucoup pour ce comparatif. Je fais de la photo animalière et j'hésitais beaucoup entre ces deux modèles. Finalement j'opte pour le le 7 D Marck ii.
Wow, you must be strong seeing how you're handling those bulky cameras with ease. I was struggling with the tiny Sony A6400 while shooting for a couple of hours.
Hi Pravin, thanks so much for watching my video. I live in the bush so it is my workout :)
Dear Janine, i am a canon user and want to upgrade from a 77D, for better image quality with a variety of uses (birds, landscape, etc.). I was considering this 90D, but it seems the focus tracking and ‘stickyness’ isn’t all we might hope for. But the new R6 supposedly is better for that, and it should have lower noise and better dynamic range. Might you be planning to test it anytime soon? And, do you have any hesitancies due to its comparatively low megapixel level? Thanks much, Craig
Hi Craig. janine is in The Delta at the moment but will see this when she has signal again. Probably in a couple of weeks.
Pangolin, Thanks, i appreciate the update. Craig
What lens are you using? I brought the 90d
Thank you for an excellent comparison of these two cameras. Well done!
Hi Tom, thanks so much for watching my video. I really appreciate. Stay healthy and safe!
Your video is very organized so I can easily get what I want to know,thank you!
Helpful and honest review thanks
Very nice... thanks dear
HI I have a Question in regards to which camera has the Quieter shutter sound? From what I can find out the 90D is Quieter in liveview mode but that is not very practical to me!
very nice simple explained ......well done
Hi Pradeep, thanks so much
Great comparison! This question still comes up a lot for people for Canon action shooters.
I have only just found this review and thoroughly enjoyed watching it. I have a 7D MkII and have already replaced the top part of the body as a result of rain ingress. I wouldn't fit the large battery pack as it increases the weight too much. I just carry a couple of batteries in my pocket. Hand holding any large digital camera with a heavy lens on a pelagic trip (8 hours) overall weight is a significant consideration as you quite rightly pointed out. I also can't understand why Canon doesn't have the flip screens on their pro bodies. I noticed the new Sony mirrorless cameras have them.
Janine, If you have time I would be very interested to find out how you have your Autofocus tracking sensitivity set up on your cameras, please.
Hi John, I usually have my tracking sensitivity set on very unresponsive so that I don't loose my subject too fast once I pick it up. However, I have it in my custom menu and change it when the scenario requires it
I am really confused between Canon 7D Mark II and Nikon D7500 to purchase now. Which one should I get for bird and wildlife photography and fantastic image quality? Please reply. PLEASE
May I ask what leads size are you use on the video
leads size?
Hey, do you shoot videos with your Canon?
Hi Sam, yes I do... but I shoot them on the Canon 1Dxii
Hi there,
Nice review however i have a small remark. 😊
You are off in the comparison in regards to the AF. The 90D’s AF is way better. It’s true in the 7DM2 is a separate AF menu. But each and every setting can be made also in the 90D.
There is no menu with cases. But one can create easy a customised AF menu in the green section with exact the same as in the 7DMII.
The technical details of the AF for the 90D are way better😏
btw i own both bodies.
Dude 7d mark ii got a way better af system...
Hi Boschtra, thanks for watching my video. Yes you are right as you can fine adjust your AF functions in the green menu and really improve it drastically. However, it doesn't match the 7Dmkii remotely in my eyes.
Janine Krayer also notice that in the orange menu you need to turn off (disable) itr faca recognising for the 90D af shooting wildlife 🤔
Ramon Bentim that’s only for the unknown 😜
Very nice review, thank you
You mentioned that Canon doesn't have a flip screen in the single-digit models. Well, the 6D Mark II as a full frame single digit camera has a flip-screen and some other interesting features.
Did you ever had a look on this camera?