The Power of Air Flow: Banks Monster Ram Intake vs. Stock
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- Опубликовано: 14 авг 2024
- Today we are installing a Banks Monster Ram Intake upgrade and showing you the difference between Banks airflow and the stock system. One of the best upgrades you can do for your Dodge Ram!
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@@anotheryoutubedI mean could be, but A) I doubt they take paid advertisements if they didn’t trust the product. B) businesses rely on advertising and paid promotions to survive. Dave and team don’t seem like the guys to promote any part unless they would use it themselves!
@@anotheryoutubed Dave doesn't need or want our money. If something is engineered well, he may talk about it. If something is engineered poorly, you can bet he'll tell you.
@@bankspowerbut would the two of you (gale and dave) please do a joint video series.
just like. combined deity-level automotive knowledge.
we don’t deserve it but we would be really lucky to receive that.
please??
@@bankspowerthe two of you have forgotten more than all of us will ever learn, and could still over educate us all.
it would be epic
A young engineer joined Rolls Royce and increased the power of the V12 Merlin engine fitted to the British Spitfire fighter aircraft. If I remember correctly they increased the power by 30% by redesigning the air intake.
The supercharger, but yes, your point is valid. Sir Stanley Hooker.
Not Much of an Engineer - fantastic book about Stanley Hooker is a great source of historical information on this.
Case has a new line of engines for their equipment that does not use DEF or EGR and is emissions compliant. The auto manufactures need to take a lesson. Thank goodness for people like Gale Banks.
Amazing technology is right around the corner. We're keeping our eyes on engine manufacturers. In fact, Toyota has some interesting patents regarding diesel combustion.
Those DEF manufacturers are going to be in a world of hurt.
@@shannonstebbens6992 really hope that's true.
@@JonBecker81From what I am hearing is that most of the DEF we get is coming from Russia and its made from pig urine if this is true but that's why its so expensive to buy because we don't make it here in the states . I've heard this from 2 people I know that have diesel trucks one who works at a Ford dealership and owns a Ford diesel & the other who owned a Dodge ram diesel truck that didn't have the Cummins engine but some V8 I think it was that he had some shop take all the DEF stuff off of it and he started to have all kinds of issues with it where the crank sensor went bad & it stopped running on him and he took it in to the Dodge dealership and they had a upgrade where they could use the cam sensor upgrade so it would run again because changing the crank sensor is a pain in the ass & when they went to do this upgrade they couldn't because this guy he used wiped the computer and the dealership couldn't do this upgrade so my friend had to haul his truck back home and ended up bringing it to another friend of mine who has a lift to pull the transmission out to change the crank timing sensor by the flywheel of the engine & he ended up buying the exhaust pipe and all the crap it needed to run the DEF again because this guy who working on it kept it all plus to top it off he had to buy a brand new computer for it because this hack he used wiped the computer clean so it would shut all of the DEF off for this upgrade. Once he got this expensive headache done he sold the truck to a dealership and got rid of it and said he was going to buy a Cummins because they weren't having these issues like this other diesel Dodge truck engine was having . I can't remember what or who were building these engines for Dodge but it definitely wasn't a Cummins but some foreign company . I rode in this truck and it had good power and the fuel mileage was really good but once it crashed it was a nightmare he said & very expensive to change it back to stock again and he's lucky because what he & this shop did was illegal as hell because our government doesn't want people messing with the emissions on the new diesel engines and if you get caught you can get a huge fine plus jail time but what's funny is our military diesel trucks don't have to comply with any emissions standards .
Lol dumb af needed a tune@@peteloomis8456
$1000 for a performance upgrade and peace of mind is worth it!
Save you a engine in the long run and and power who do not want more power
Probably also a small MPG improvement.
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@@OcRefrigit doesn’t add power. It looses low end torque…
Adding fuel then adding air where’s the tune that’s the trifecta to power, torque and miles per gallon!
I sold banks in Coeur d'Alene Idaho for 15 years for a company called custom truck. I sold a lot of it. People ask why I said because of their engineering and because of their zero returns I had very very very very very very few in the 15 years that I had to return anything. All their products are engineered and designed I've been to their factory and plant in Azusa I've taken their certificate programs and I'll stand behind him 100% and it was so hard to speak to customers about why you needed to do a high ran intake expand your intercooler before you did a tuner etc.. Great Video!!!😊
Thanks for the kind words!
Dave, please do a video with Gale Banks!
Would be honored 👍
Yes, he will do that soon.
That would be awesome 👌
So he can kill his own fan base?
Currently running the ram intake, air filter, fully deleted, tuned, built rfe, truck has 241k miles (2012 3500 Cummins), makes a safe reliable 600-650hp to the wheels, tows everything under the sun like it isn’t there, blows the 37x12.5s off at any speed under 70 (really…these trucks make a tsunami wave of torque that doesn’t quit), gets me from my house in Maine to my property in Boston (165 miles on way) and BACK on 3/8th of a tank, and has NEVER left stranded. I’m into it currently for 38k cash doing much of the work myself. My personal truck. I have other Cummins work trucks all with the banks touch. Nothing compares. But a mildly built, lifted, big tire Cummins with cow catcher bumpers requires a direct hit from a meteorite to stop them. They’re INCREDIBLE. I’ll never go back to anything Duracrap.
Def need to hook up with gale banks I'm sure he could seriously add some good Input and ideas to different techniques on the monster engine builds.....plus gale would prob live to collab with you guys
Installed the Monster Ram on my 2021 3500 dually. The engine ran smoother which was more quiet as well. The connectors were a pain to some degree to pull apart. Super pleased to have this upgrade.
Great to hear 👏👏
Placebo effect.
@@HSKFabrications No
@NathanaelNaused No. No what?
@@HSKFabrications The placebo effect is when a person's physical or mental health appears to improve after taking a placebo or 'dummy' treatment. Placebo is Latin for 'I will please' and refers to a treatment that appears real, but is designed to have no therapeutic benefit.
Are you stating that you have more knowledge and expertise than Gale Banks? It is quite obvious his products work and have been thoroughly tested before released to public.
Just did my 2014. Best preventative maintenance I’ve ever done 👍
Same (2014)… tell me how that number 6 fuel line treat you!?! What a pain! 😂
@@Pops57for real! Did this to my ‘15 a few months ago as well.
Interestingly enough, Double R Diesel just released a video this week that dyno'ed the Banks Monster Ram intake vs. the stock one. It turns out a stock intake makes more power than the banks intake, UNLESS you're tuned and deleted; in which case it makes pretty decent gains.
Your correct on that statement except that Double R Diesel's truck is not deleted, just tuned. He said in that video of I recall that he is only doing emissions intact tuning now.
@@Obert106 You are correct. My apologies for misspeaking. Regardless, stock tune you're going to make less power on a Banks Monster Ram
A tune is needed for any modifications that increase airflow to the engine on any type of vehicle.
@@MikeMcCasland27 You're not using stock parts so why on earth would you use a stock tune????? Common sense ain't so common!
I looked up that channel, can’t find the video mentioning the monster ram intake. What is the title of the video that the intake is in? None of the video thumbnails mention banks that I could see.
I have commented months ago that we need a Dave and Banks video.
Thanks for staying with us! We look forward to it 👍
Amen to that, I got my 2020 Ram 2500 set up with the Monster Ram and I can attest that it a the best mod for any 6.7l cummins truck.
The manufacturer should be paying for all engines damaged by those bolts falling into the engines, and there should have been a factory recall for them.
Lawsuit!
Class action lawsuit
Friendly tip. If you're filming in the shop fighting the bright sun coming in the doors like that, look for a setting called HDR to turn on in the camera settings.
I'd say close the doors but I might be willing to fight someone trying to do that to my bay on a hot day
Thanks for the tip
David
Stock up on oil.
Keep your oil stock high. You are much needed, I pray for the best for you. An absolutely top notch shop from top to bottom David
From top to bottom
I love Banks products--R&D is outstanding.
I have this exact Monster Ram on my two 6.7 Cummins. ABSOLUTELY the single best upgrade.... ESPECIALLY for a stock engine.
I also have the equivalent on mytwo 5.9 pickups. Heater grid is not an issue there, but improves spool-up and mpg even more than for the 6.7 engines.
PS, it does not increase HP or air flow, ie CFM. It broadens the power band by spooling the turbo faster & sooner. The head limits the air flow, so this increases the volume of air, because it's compressed air.
Bottom line; it literally makes a noticeable improvement.
Thanks for the share 👍
I added the 5" Monster Exhaust, Pedal Monster w/ iDash, Monster Air box (oiled), and Banks' intercooler tubes. I noticed much better power when pulling my 5th wheel. BTW, the Monster Exhaust eliminates the useless muffler which you don't need, the DPF acts as a muffler. The truck is very quite except for the cool sound of the turbo.
Are you sure about your statements? Banks talks about air density, not CFM. Do you have flowbench numbers to back up what you say?
@@jameseroh6544 I used the hillbilly method. I towed 19,000 lbs over the Malad Summit bone stock and then again after installing the Monster Ram. The truck didn't struggle like it did bone stock. Amazing how being able to breathe helped it along.
I absolutely love these videos. I've never really learned anything about cars or trucks or maintenance or repairs. These videos are SOOOOOO informative!!!! Plus, I watch how Dave and his staff work on things and it's an art form they're performing. I'm so jealous with how well they work with their hands. It's ridiculous impressive.
I installed one of these monster Ram intake elbows and it works great. Especially when towing heavy loads. My Cummins even idles way smoother than the stock intake ever did. There's a climb in Arizona on the 17 freeway from the Phoenix area going north and it pitches to a 6% grade and I've gained 10mph going up that grade towing my 5th wheel trailer plus gained 1 mile per gallon with my Monster Ram Intake.
The best option is an emissions weight loss program for the truck. Now that Chevron Deference was tossed out by SCOTUS, the EPA can't just make crap up anymore. Let the lawsuits begin!
Chevron means next to nothing when it comes to the EPA rules. IDK why everyone thinks it's going to be 2008 all over again. What company is going to take a chance on openly developing and marketing delete hardware/software in the USA, only to hope they get lucky at a trial vs with an EPA judge?
@@jeffs2809 Uh, federal courts have just applied Loper-Bright (the decision overturning Chevron) to the Dept of Ed. EPA is surely going to have pay the piper soon.
@@jeffs2809 It's no longer an EPA judge, it's a real elected judge who doesn't defer to the agency for expertise.
@@JeremyPrattigmp2u But that's still no guarantee the judge will rule against the epa rules. There's still the expense involved, which in most cases, will favor the government lawyers over the companies or individuals.
Funniest thing is that all the geniuses making these so called rules fly to their conferences in their private jets 🤣
Best insurance you can ever put on a diesel is actually taking things off of it..... Iykwim
nidkwym
EGR's. Destroying diesel engines since conception.
@@cwilks5592just delete it !!!! The federal government doesn’t have to have any of the emissions on their vehicles and get the made without it .
@@JS-zb1vv I understand and want to but I live in a state that requires emissions in most counties. I’m seriously considering registering in another county and deleting.
@@cwilks5592that blows !
@@cwilks5592
Don't know many states that do emission testing on diesels
Yup. And banks fan boys love EGRs while Dave actually knows engines and knows EGRs are bad news. We don't need banks.
Man you guys are awesome. Don’t stop making videos Dave. We love you and your awesome team
My oil alone is so much cleaner now after I cleaned everything really well during the process. I love it.
I wish every mechanic in the country was like Dave!! (and his guys)
RAM will VOID your warranty in a New York second when they see that on your truck. Ask me how I know. My truck had 1300 miles on it when I upgraded to the Banks Monster Ram intake. I took my truck to the dealer for the first oil changed and the area service manager for Ram saw it and flagged me. They made me put my truck back to stock to get my warranty back ($1200) so I did but they didn't keep their word. Still NO Warranty. So Fvck Ram, I put the Banks back on and added everything they make for a 2022 3500. I bought it all. My truck runs good and I've NEVER been back to the dealer for anything. Not even when my wife needed a new car. She wanted a Jeep but she got a C8 Corvette instead. I love my truck But I HATE Stellantis. BANKS for the WIN!!
I'm located in Las Vegas, Nv. And all 5 Ram dealers here suck.
I was wondering this myself. I'm sure so were many others.
Must be a NY thing. People do this upgrade all the time and I've never heard of anyone complain about dealer warranties.
Installing a part like that cannot void any warranty unless the part is found to be the cause for the failure. That's just the stealership trying to con you out of money. Check the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act.
They violated the Magnuson Moss Act by voiding your warranty.
@@DJGRoc This!
I'm a physicist, and I LOVE diesel engines because the physics is just so fascinating! I went to automechanic school once upon a time and am basically a car hobbyist and do repairs for myself and my family. I have never owned a diesel, but man, you guys are sure getting me into diesels!!!
I've been a long time Banks customer. I've never been let down. Great products!
Banks products are awesome!! Gale is a genius!
Installed my intake with boost tubes 10000km ago and I am super happy. Better throttle response, fuel economy. Great product.
RAM should just license this from Banks and make it stock. They’re sure charging enough for these trucks
I put one on my 16 because I absolutely love my truck. Wanted it to last as long as possible. And it does my it a lot more fun to drive
Excellent 👍
I'm a huge fan of Gale Banks, he's a gem of a person👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I installed mine on my 2014 cummins over the 4th of July weekend and I love it! Just be sure to follow the directions to the letter. Or have someone like Dave here do it for you. :-)
Just ordered the monster Ram...actually I showed this video to my buddy and he ordered one also. I don't want to crater an engine because of a faulty nut coming loose.
Thanks for the information Dave, you guys are awesome 👍🤘🤙
Great video ! i Definitely agree !!! i Was Wondering if it was 50 state approved.
Since i Live in the Greatest nanny state of all states ( California ). if you change anything from stock - Prepare to Fight with the Smog Check Guy unless You Have Paperwork in Hand or that Tag on that Part. Very happy they Put that 50 state approved tag on that unit !!! Really helps with the " Smog Police "
Banks is on top of all that CARB nonsense. 👍🏼
I installed mine 3 years ago. I have had no problem passing Utah emissions. Banks provides the CARB compliance number on a sticker. The same sticker Dave stuck on the Monster Ram in the video. Also, if you have an issue with the emissions guy, Banks will go to bat for you to educate them.
It is, Banks is based in So Cal and works with CARB to ensure it's CARB approved.
@@JeremyPrattigmp2u 👍
Just performed the same kit on my 2009 m has 135,000. The grid heated bolt still good but the grid was so built up with carbon looked half plugged. Test drove and seems to run freely and noise is gone , runs smooth and quiet . Great product , thanks to Gale Banks and his team , Parts fit perfectly .
Be honest, so much carbon it looks like a commercial for a weber grill.
You can just feel the power emanating from that monster intake😅 Gale Banks has had a lot of practice over the decades 😉
Why is there no recall on the original junk ? Should be a class action lawsuit for repairs caused by that!!
I put a banks intercooler and exhaust system on my 91 Dodge two 5012 valve and it made a huge difference milea ge and Performance and I just got done putting a intercooler on my 97 F350 what a difference !!! by the way, thank you for calling it and Engine during the whole episode
Gale Banks, please do a video with Dave!
The collaboration will happen.
Sadly Banks does not make a cold air intake for my 2024 GMC SIERRA-3500-HD 6-6L-GAS. I had to go with the S&B. But it fit like a glove and the install instructions were spot on. I like Banks a lot, just wish they had more products.
We don't offer one yet. We are still developing and testing the Ram Air intake and the Derringer for the 2024+ L5P Duramax. The 2024+ L5P Duramax trucks have new updates for emissions regulations and new computer systems. Because of these changes, they are even more sensitive to any major changes like air flow rate and temp. We must work with these changes, and unfortunately, that has forced us to change harness and programming on the MAF module that is included with the Ram Air intake. It's coming this year.
You have a '24 model truck.....
I love mine and can tell a Big difference, and I can hear the air when I give it the throttle! I also did another thing that will make my engine last and no longer need the def, and I went with a 5" exhaust with no restrictions from front to back!
These two guys working together is like the Batman Superman crossover movies. God bless I hope I see more
What would happen is you added the dimpled piston with what Banks does??? I love this channel!!
Speed of Air pistons, I agree!
What a great collaboration you and Gail
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
My 12v cummins, I just installed a twin ram and it's really worth the money. Banks knows his stuff!
Those heater grid bolts should be a recall ! I believe Dodge should be responsible.
100%
Dodge doesn't care if it makes it past 100k it's good to go for them
The problem is that it's not designed by Dodge/Ram. It's all Cummins. All of the engines are purchased from Cummins.
Bingo. Has nothing to do with dodge/ram whatever the crap you want to call it. It's all cummins problems.
It’s built by Cummins.
We’ve been waiting for this collab for awhile!
Stay tuned.
Gale Banks is an extremely intelligent man and probably the best spokesperson his company could have.
@@mikekraan823 He is a god!
Guy is like Joe Biden, getting lost in his own shop
There always has to be a loser in the crowd that tries to turn everything political.
@@78trav
thats why you liberals love him
I'm not a liberal asshat
That carbon build up is nuts!! I was fully deleted at 20k miles and did this Banks intake at 100k miles and my internals were still clean and carbon free. That emissions nonsense is killing ALL diesel engines. The only knock I had with the Banks horn is how it performed in colder climates. I had to change my heater for something more robust as the Banks did not do its job. However, I did notice a quicker throttle response and more boost when I wanted it.
hi dave love the channel thanks for educating us❤
I have yet to see anyone including banks to out an engine or chassis dyno before and after the intake install.
I deleted, tuned and added a complete HSP diesel performance system to my 14 LML Duramax plus 5” exhaust, PPE 3 1/2” down pipe and 165 lift pump. Gained tons of horsepower major increase in MPG and most of all peace of mind. No more egr, no other bull crap to ruin an engine.
Not “50 state compliant” but I refuse to neuter AND cut short the life of my truck.
I put A monster ram on my 2017 ram 6.7 as a precautionary measure because of the heater grid issue and it was amazing. I towed a loaded trailer 10,000 lbs plus 2,000 pounds in the bed from the west coast 1500 miles over US 40 and it felt like I was empty. The power increase was unbelievable everything else was stock non deleted.
Excellent Dave! Do they sell these to Australia? You know we pay DOUBLE the price for fuel than you guys? It sux ass!
Hey Dave!, put your seat belt on brother. We need you around for a while. That's another piece of insurance 🕊️
I have it, truly awesome product, Mr Banks is best, you need his monster ram.
Thank you for the great endorsement!
Gae and Dave building an engine would be insane how has no one sponsored this yet???
Notice the 90 degree angle on the Monster Ram - it's shaped like that so as to keep the air flow performance, whilst allowing for such a angle of direction change. Clearly designed by someone with knowledge of fluid dynamics! 👍
I pray they put back the emissions for legal purposes. Once my 5th gen is out of warranty I’m adding the Monster ram and deleting all that junk!
Had my 2014 6.7L with 78,000 miles changed over to the Monster Ram. The first thing I noticed was at idle the engine was breathing. I bought the truck used and had always thought it sounded like it was gasping for air at idle. My mechanic didn't want me to spend this much money, but after he installed and saw the difference on my engine, he is now pushing the Banks system. And he said the factory grid heater bolts was still tight, but the carbon build up was really bad.
It breaths better at idle😅😅😅😅😅 tell me another joke , do you work for banks or any association of any kind ..
My 2 favorite automotive teams joined together :)
Would love to hear a podcast featuring Dave and Mr. Gale Banks. It would be the ultimate knowledge download.
i thank god for making fellas like gale banks and dave
You guys rock! Keep wrechin
I installed the monster ram on my 2011 about a year and a half ago. I had 162k miles on stock intake and when I took it off, the grid heater was fine and the killer nut was tight and secure. Here's what I have noticed in real world use since the swap. The piece of mind over the killer bolt issue is immeasurable, and worth the insane price. The change in performance and fuel economy is imperceptible. The coil intake heater is subpar in cold weather. Have noticed that truck is harder to start on days below zero. The manufacturers grid heater is much better for cold weather start ups. So, basically it comes down to, is it worth $1000 for peace of mind. That's a personal choice
On a stock truck, this is only insurance. You will lose a little low end torque and power unfortunately. I wish Banks was more open about it, but his dyno results have been conspicuously missing. Still FAR better than needing a new engine.
Can you please expand on this Monster Ram. Im told that unless you have an EPA complinace tune in addition, that you dont get much added benefit of the Monster Ram Intake. Would it be possible to dino that to confirm. Im definitely interested in that intake.
You might consider the Derringer from Banks.
Pulling the front wheels off of lifted trucks is the tactic I've used to get the thing low enough to work on.
See how far honesty, integretty and communication get you.all the way dave, gr8t vidieo.
Look inside the new Banks monster ram, nice and smooth, even roughly finished reduces air flow capacity. Dave I had an early 5.9 Cummins, about 1987 not in a truck but in a Massey Combine, inter cooled, that was rated at 220 engine horsepower. I don't think it had a grid heater. Let me tell you this, it made amazing power for sure. Full tank of corn , running 6.5mph in 140 bushe to the acre corn unloading on the go with a 6 row 30 inch centers corn head. In extremely cold weather I had to give it a little shot of WD 40 before starting,that Cummins would come to life Dave. Massey Combine went into receivership in early 1988 if I remember correctly. Oliver designed the machine but never produced 1 machine, they were in receivership 1985 or 1986. Now they make a bit bigger Cummins for the Dodge Ram I see from your videos. Clean air supply is critical for any engine to efficient and have long life. I was involved with pre cleaners for combust air back when the IH 400 series engines were new,it was dryer than a popcorn fart,the soil was exposed all winter without much snow or rain,it was a dust cloud we worked in, visibility was made 20 yards. About 5 hours and the air filter element meter was showing clogged filter. A new outer element was $90 man back in 1970 ! It had an inner safety element for a safety. The beginning of disposable air filters,if you tried to blow out with air you put a hole in it ! Block man from IH was cool to talk with and learn how to from. His exact words, don't ever remove the outer element without a new replacement, the seals on the ends of the element are designed to seal 1 time. Looking at the indentations he was correct, I saw several engines being tore down because of dirt in the engine,the rings go first, next it's hard starting in hot weather. These tractors were still under warranty when this happened. Cutting corners cost the owner the warranty claim.
They are the best in the business banks is the real deal
The best investment you can make for you and your family Dave is to put your seatbelt on. I'm from Utah and we are crazy drivers you know it lol
He sounds JUST like his dad!!
Dave plugging how much he loves his kids is so warming
I don't even own a truck let alone one of these trucks and I'm still watching this lol
I feel like a Monster!
The soot is such a killer. Take that EGR off asap.
This is definitely a pure manufacturing recall. This recall should come down through Dodge. 2 many issues with that grid heater for the common man.
There has been one issue with Banks and putting on the Ram Air Intake on these Ram vehicles. The check engine light comes on for EGR.
I added all the banks parts, Ram Air Intake, boost tubes, monster ram and exhaust and after 6 hours of driving, the light came on for EGR. I drove 2 hours to my lake house, then hooked up the pontoon and drove another 4 into Canada before that light came on.
The strange thing is, on my way back from Canada, the light went out and hasn't come back on. Im not concerned as it is a known issue and Banks is working on it, but apparently this doesn't happen with every install.
Love these videos. Dave is dope
thats awesome that it has E.O. number. thats absolutely fantastic
I would love to see how you would build a street LS to live while being turned up to about 500 HP. I trust your team, but not many others make that particular cut. PLEASE and Thank You
🔥🔥🔥I have all the banks stuff in my TJ
I would like to see a dyno comparing the before and after change in HP/torque.
I work at a dealership. One of the only trucks I’ve seen with the monster ram, the heater element exploded and sent porcelain through the engine.
I recognize that mechanic working on that truck !!!
All that carbon build up will come right back as long as the egr is functional.
7:32 whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa!!!‼️🤣
Just throwing it in the drive while the truck still going backwards gonna blow some stuff up in the transmission eventually, hopefully it’s not the 68 RFE😁
First thing I put on my ram. Got rid of the grid heater.
Side by side I thought I would notice a difference after it was installed. Nope! Oh well
Just wish we could get the grid heater relocated for those that do not want to increase air flow. Basically to fix the main issue.
That's why these "Engineers" are a fucking joke..... Banks Power are the definition of "Engineers" good going Banks.....
Even better trick for lifted trucks, take the wheels off if it's in a lift so you can lower it
Or lower it to make it useable like they were in the early 90's and before.
my same thought even placing it on jackstand!
I wish you had a shop on the west coast.
Banks doesn't publish any HP numbers, only CFM/MAF numbers. Surely they have run dyno tests to see the HP gains and differences in powerband, but the fact that they are so widely respected as a top tier aftermarket manufacture, yet don't publish a single HP number for their hard parts is HIGHLY suspect.
I have no doubts to the quality of their product, but the performance is suspect until Banks chooses to publish hard data.
5.9 with all banks upgrades best engine ever made.
i just want an open conversation between gale and dave.
please. talk shop for a couple hours and just let us listen.
please.