That's a hell of a mentorship moment Dave! Well done... paying your wisdom forward for the next generation. These guys will remember this moment 40 years from now. Best of luck to them!
So true. I never bothered to noticed the difference between wisdom and knowledge. Dave might not be up to snuff on all the details of the newer stuff, yet somehow his wisdom and experience plays a role in the way they go about things that makes a positive impact no doubt.
@@pricetagcitrus He showed them there is a better way than tearing it apart to check the mains like they asked. He made sure they understood this engine is high mileage for what it is, and they left with a better understanding of what they were dealing with and how to best approach the situation. At least that is what I observed.
Gotta Pay Attention. You don't have guy's Like Dave all over the US! When he literally Gives you something that it took him 40 YEARS to Nail Down and be as GOOD as He is. YES, That is TEACHING!! As far as Experience..... You Can Not TEACH that!! You Learn It! Like his Son's are doing, They are Learning, However, from an EXPERT that Know's!! And his name is DAVE! Or to his Kids.... D A D....
Very respectful, while being assertive, without being disrespectful, praise to the young kid for thinking outside of the box, and getting a second high valued opinion, this channel is such a joy.
@@DavesAutoCenterCenterville you have people in the comments saying these V10 engines are very reliable and great. I haven’t seen 1 with 150k miles let alone 99k miles that didn’t have 50k of work done to it
I guess I'll give him credit for no one when they were in over their heads or out of their league and couldn't do it but they jumped in on the job when they saw how much money they would possibly make even though it was beyond their ability. Dave do you still warranty or repair with that used oil pump?
That young man's gonna go far as a mechanic. He was latched on to every word Dave spoke. There's something about a young man that is willing to listen to experience from others versus thinking he knows everything right off the rip.
As a 38 year tradesman in business for 26 years I would like to compliment that young man for asking for help from this older mechanic. Smart move. Next I would like to compliment this older mechanic for teaching and advising this young man with absolutely great advice. Mentoring from older guys is almost a thing of the past.
As a mechanic that’s getting older now, my advice to these young guys would be that sometimes you gotta know when to turn jobs down and/or know when to walk away from one. This thing is a can of worms I’d never wanna get into but I admire their work ethic and tenacity. Be kind to these young guys Dave and help em out as much as you can. A little wisdom and encouragement can go a long way to helping steer a young man the right direction
Maybe they should save up their money and get one of those machines they can hook up the engines to and check everything without taking the engine down. It would save them hundreds of thousands of dollars over time.
As an 80 year old retired mechanic I appreciate the extra time you spent with these young guys. In my mid-20's I didn't know what all I didn't know! Looking back, I'm sure I tried the patience of a few guys but it sure helped me.
Soon as he said it was a rental at some point I knew this thing was toasted. Guarantee you this was run hard every chance a driver had, taking it to redline in every gear, burning the crap out of it, and the rental agency did not maintain it properly. Either let it run low on oil or never changed it, especially after hard runs. After you do the compression test if there’s still issues, RUN from this as fast as you can!
@@steven-nb6rt i just hope they aren't being set up... "We know this has tons of issues so we'll pawn it off on a honest hard working garage just too claim they damaged it". Even if this happens, i have a feeling these guys will recover and be a solid shop in the end.
Abused yes no doubt, but it has 15000 miles,? They made it sound like that’s a lot? I’m confused, even though it’s been abused, and we don’t know that, being a Lamborghini, and most people who probably rent one of these things do not know how to drive them , they are probably not like jumping into your mustang or whatever and ripping. So being abused I’m not to sure on that. And these are made to go fast. I just find it weird that it only has 15000 on it and they made sound like a lot? Sorry I’m missing something! lol
Sometimes you have no other option than to work with the budget of the customer. It's likely that the used pump was the customers decision, or the only part they could get their hands on in the timeframe.
In aircraft maintenance we always kept our fleet on a oil spectrometric oil analysis program ( soap) . The military does also. With any kind of exotic car I would want to keep it on a soap program. During oil changes a sample of oil is taken as well as a filter and sent to a lab. The lab could send you back a report of the various metals in parts per million that is in the oil that were either normal or abnormal readings. Any abnormal readings could point to a part failure internally, and you were ahead of the curve by knowing what corrective action would be coming down the road . It’s hard to believe people that own these expensive cars wouldn’t want to do the same thing to prevent these types of failures.
The rich don't drive them 😂. It's money down the drain. They'd rather have it as a status symbol but not much else. Oil change is a few thousand easy. Hell, any basic maintenance is thousands of dollars
Something smells fishy about this one. The car has been on the road for 10 years, and 15,000 miles. Hundreds of operating hours. Comes in for an electric rack, a coil, and maybe a service. Suddenly, the oil pump goes on them too? Lots of extra talking, filler, and distractions. E.g. "I heard it was a rental", "Someone else has serviced the engine before, see these marks?" "Look at this broken bolt someone irresponsibly didn't replace" While Dave is sitting there going "uh-huh, yeah." At the end of the day, it's a VW product and they can fail. That said, that V10 has a pretty solid track-record for reliability. It may not be coincidence that this unrelated major failure occurred in these same moments under the care of these guys. I think Dave knows that too, but didn't want to put them on the spot like that. Rightfully so, as nothing is going to hurt them worse than the cost of what could be a mistake made by this little shop. As a technician myself, surprise failures while a car is under our care are almost always the result of someone being a human. Making a mistake or two along the way happens sometimes, as much as we try to focus. I messed a really big job when I was young and starting out, years ago. I'm sure it has happened to Dave a time or two. I remember that feeling of desperation, you can almost see it on his face in the video. Sometimes you get lucky, and it just ends up being a big scare. Sometimes things really do break at extremely inconvenient times. Fingers crossed for this engine, and the shop owners regardless. That's just my take based on the little peek this video gave us all into what is to surely be a great set of videos to see. Great vid and knowledge sharing, as always.
With that much material in the oil filter I would be taking the sump off before spending any time hooking it up to a bench. If the sump is full of glitter its game over. Full engine rebuild time as its going to be everywhere. These dry sump pumps on the V10s are crazy powerful, its why they are shaft driven. The old pump can easily be refurbished, in fact thats what I would do. Its not cheap but much better to start with a "new" pump vs a used one. There are specialist companies that will do a rebuild, or you can get parts and DIY - they are not actually that complex.
The kid huh , I remember thinking at that age that I was fully an adult . Sure we all know we can learn something extra from others . It's a time of life when we prefer to not look ten years younger than we are but it happens.
Amazing guidance, Dave! Showed them respect and gave them valuable time. I also applaud them for coming to you. They clearly want to get this done correctly and make a living. You're a good man!
The 5.0L V10 engine from Lamborghini, especially from 04-05, are plagued with issues. More specifically, rod bearings commonly wearing down near 40-50K miles or SOONER, the primary cats can break down and shooting catalytic material back into the motor, as well as general oil consumption issues. Generally; it’s a weak motor in comparison to the 5.2L V10 introduced in 09’ and doesn’t withstand much boost or modifications for anyone that’s tried to push these motors further. A shame! Because these 5.0L engines sound unbelievable.
I have been a shade tree mechanic my entire life (There is a very cute picture of me at 18 months old covered in grease and oil head to toe while my father rebuild a Jeep engine--I helped!). I've torn down and rebuilt engines, drivetrains, suspensions...shade tree style. I stopped touching engines when the computers became smarter than me. There is no way I would put a wrench on that type of engine. Great job!
I love that you shared your knowledge with those young men in a very kind and respectful way. So many shop owners are afraid to "help the competition". Kudos to you Dave!
Dave you are an absolute Master. Taking the time to show these young mechanics what you do and will help them find out what’s going on with the lambo engine. You sir are the meaning of “ Priceless “.
Why, why? Why, why do these people not just come to your shop in the first place, it just blows my mind how they waste their time and money not doing it right the first time.
Super Anxious for part 2 !!!!! This one smells like someone ( probably the dealer ) is not being above board/ dealing off the bottom of the deck….You know what I am saying. Not the Kid I think he is being a straight shooter.
@@kurtjammer9568 They could just buy a toureg, or an Audi with this base block with an oil pump for less than this oil pump sells for used. I have cheated the game a number of times with these top end cars
@BentonL yes a friend of mine has a maserati and it apparently was going to cost $10k just for a waterpump and his cousin laughed and said they are only $120 off a ford v8 I think it was
A brand new Lambo engine with a seized oil pump? That's the most unheard of thing I've ever heard of! You really jagged an interesting one here Dave! It's gonna be cool!
LoL. Italian cars are well known for their "reliability". All brands. Especially alfa, lambo, masserati and ferrari. Fiat would be most reliable, but still crap.
I think the possibility of the engine not sustaining damage after oil pump failure is quite low. We'll see what the next episode reveals and look forward to seeing it. Because the engine history is sketchy, I think it should be disassembled, inspected and parts replaced as needed. At least you know what you have...
Mechanics often have no other option than to work within the budget, time-frame, and requests of the customer. It's possible that the customer wouldn't have approved a deeper inspection without the opinion of an expert such as dave.
@@steven-nb6rtAny engine can and will fail at ANY mileage if it's abused bad enough. Believe me, I've rebuilt failed engines that had less than 10 hours of run time on them. It's all in how you treat them.
Dave as a former shop owner and someone who’s worked on my fair share of exotics, I can tell you exactly what happened…a dealer who uses this guy for euro work said “got a lambo with a small issue, think you can help me out?” This is where people who aren’t well versed in these cars should bow out. There are too many little things you need to know to just jump into an exotic. They are a whole different animal. Don’t waste time on your machine. Metal in filter….motor needs to come apart. You might be able to salvage some parts now….
Plus exotics are the number one place for abuse and fraudulant sales. I'm never surprised when any exotic or luxury car has issues early, because people who can afford them typically don't care about maintenance costs or damage. I can't imagine buying a "certified" used Lexus or BMW or anything of the sort is ever a good idea, lol.
This is exactly what happened, exotics require specific know how (speaking as a current exotic tech), and also sometimes comes down to information that was passed down from one tech to another since technical documentation is usually lacking. Kudos to them for going to someone who specializes in their field and will do right by the customer. Huracans and aventadors aren’t usually prone to major engine failure unless they’ve have turbo kits and horrible tunes.
Dave that’s awesome, it’s great to see the inner workings of your thought processes. Doesn’t matter if it’s a big old diesel or a lambo engine you know how to sniff out a problem
High performance engines usually will have high abuse owners. High RPM (Revolutions Per Minute) Reving the engine to show off, smoking tires doing donuts, 180 mile per hour driving, sideway driving around curves. My theory is such an expensive engine suffering major damage at 15,000 miles is the result of a crazy driver. That engine in my opinion has been abused. Mechanical devices deserve to be treated with respect. I don't care if one is driving a Lamborghini, Corvette or any other mechanical device, drive like a grandpa and your vehicle will last much longer. Don't ever buy a used crotch rocket motorcycle. Those drivers are insane Reving their engines at 8 to 9 thousand RPM's in neutral just to show off. You will be buying nothing but problems buying such a vehicle. I own a crotch rocket and I am a rare exception to the rule. Never spin my tires, never pop the clutch, never do wheeles, rarely drive over 45 miles per hour and never rev the engine. I know, I'm boring but my vehicles last a very long time. Treat mechanical devices with respect.
I love how you always push diag time first, and how thorough you’re diag is. So many shops will blindly waste the customers money on unnecessary repairs, or repairs that only treat the symptom without addressing the cause.
You are a class act Dave! A lot of folks would have run that young man off as soon as he pulled out the used pump. He is trying to take of his customer, who is trying not to clean out his bank account. He stopped when he knew things just weren't looking right and sought the assistance from someone much more knowledgeable.
i just get the fealing this kid tried 2 do a repair and was in over his head and screwed up as his skill level for working on that kind of stuff hasnt developed far enough yet and Dave spoted it
I have an Audi V10 (mostly the same motor as Audi acquired Lambo in 2004). I am guessing this thing leaked from the get-go, torn down to the cooler, and the mechanic used too much RTV on reassembly ... That rtv got stuck in the pickup, which is why we are here.
Great channel Dave, Love your ethic and diligence. There's some guys in Calif - Sheepey Race started w/Honda's and now specialize in Lambos, Ferrari, Audi, etc. you name it - they've done it (1500-2k HPower) and know these engines upside down and bkwards. Just a ref if you need someone in this area of V-10, NOT EVER that you do not, but as you said this isn't your regular customer. Good luck, looking fwd to the Cause and Confirm.
I love watching Dave communicate. He is an incredible manager, and an amazing leader, a wonderful teacher; and of course a world-class mechanic and problem solver. He always remains calm and unflappable.The kid knew he was in the presence of someone who knows much more than him and to his credit he let Dave be Dave.
Just started watching your videos Dave. Your a hell of a mechanic/instructor & overall str8 shooter type of dude! I love it.... Definitely one of the last breeds of decent human beings that have character & pride in what they do & who they are. Love car culture & the peeps that make it up!
Way to go Dave, I love the way you pass on your knowledge, I’ve been in aviation for 35 years and I love to do the same thing, pass on experience to the younger guys that want to learn, nicely done
Dave is the man. A straight shooter. Awesome how he mentors these two young men. The world needs more of that. If I ever need an engine done I'll certainly consider Dave's shop and I'm in Tennessee.
Bro, you are so awesome. It's a great Channel. There are so many bad mechanics doing bad things. You give hope to regular people. It was very nice of you to teach those two kids how to be better mechanics.
Dave you are amazing! If I didn’t live in VA - I’d travel a few states for you and your shop to maintain my vehicles. I’m NOT a mechanic at all and the 4 C’s was a mental game changer. THANK YOU - God Bless.
Dave is the man. A real straight shooter. Awesome how he tries to mentor these young men. The world needs more of that. If I ever need a motor done I'll certainly consider Dave's shop and I'm in Tennessee.
LMAO! We call that a sh#t ton! I love the "Dont sugar coat it" attitude this shop has. It's the very difference between getting it done and not getting it. LOVE THIS SHOP!
I absolutely love this video Dave, by far the best. Perhaps instill in this young man Good habits. Bad habits in mechanics make life rough on the customer and the next mechanic
Dave, that was amazing advice You gave these young guys at the end, I'm not a mechanic but I try to do preventive maintainance on the family vehicle and im going to note those points down. Thanks !
Most likely if it was a rental and is 10 years old. Just wasent maintained properly. The v10s are known for burning oil so prob was being driven on low oil for a while. Which caused all these problems
These are super easy to clock. It's also super easy to tell if it's clocked you just need to check the mileage on the other modules like the transmission matches the speedo.
@@actualizare that requires a secondary device that intercepts and falsified CAN messages for the engine and transmission controllors. The vast majority of devices will simply block the gauge cluster.
The kid was on the right path, had great answers and steps taken and now is going to learn so much more about diagnostics, procedures and ethics. Excellent all the way around.
Hopefuly they weren’t out joyriding it beating the sack off it and broke it! That could be a deal breaker for a new shop mainly the representation of the shop. Mechanic here myself almost 20 years so I do understand sometimes crap happens and at the worst time, let’s hope the pump fixes it!
It sure is nice watching a true professional with the Grace and honesty that Dave exhibits. What a great role model. Success is paid for in advance… David is a perfect example of this… we need more Daves in this world.
Was always told to follow the "4 C's". What is the Complaint? What Caused it? How did you Correct the problem? Did you Confirm your work? Dang good guidance for younger techs.
Can't get enough of what you guys are up to in your shop. I'm really looking forward to your upcoming show but do hope it doesn't put a halt to your online videos.
This was good to watch. I was sad because my cars engine is getting old and tired at 225,000 miles. I can't imagine what it must feel like to blow an engine at 15,000 miles.
It’s absolutely amazing just listening to Dave’s wisdom. This guy is a genius and always teaches the correct discipline and patience to fellow mechanics.
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This guy is very very smart. He knew he was in over his head and seek out somebody who knows more than he does for help. That is very, very smart.
How will him being smart create extra homosexual special rights ?
He's no illegal mexican !
Agreed, go ask for help, I do it all the time👍
It certainly is.
That’s correct.
He had no choice
That's a hell of a mentorship moment Dave! Well done... paying your wisdom forward for the next generation. These guys will remember this moment 40 years from now. Best of luck to them!
So true. I never bothered to noticed the difference between wisdom and knowledge. Dave might not be up to snuff on all the details of the newer stuff, yet somehow his wisdom and experience plays a role in the way they go about things that makes a positive impact no doubt.
What exactly did he teach them? They don't have a sim test machine or the oil pump so they don't know how it failed. They literally know nothing yet.
@@pricetagcitrus - He tutored them on the "Four C's"... 😉
@@pricetagcitrus He showed them there is a better way than tearing it apart to check the mains like they asked. He made sure they understood this engine is high mileage for what it is, and they left with a better understanding of what they were dealing with and how to best approach the situation.
At least that is what I observed.
Gotta Pay Attention. You don't have guy's Like Dave all over the US! When he literally Gives you something that it took him 40 YEARS to Nail Down and be as GOOD as He is. YES, That is TEACHING!! As far as Experience..... You Can Not TEACH that!! You Learn It! Like his Son's are doing, They are Learning, However, from an EXPERT that Know's!! And his name is DAVE! Or to his Kids.... D A D....
Very respectful, while being assertive, without being disrespectful, praise to the young kid for thinking outside of the box, and getting a second high valued opinion, this channel is such a joy.
Yes, these young men deserve kudos👍
@@DavesAutoCenterCenterville you have people in the comments saying these V10 engines are very reliable and great. I haven’t seen 1 with 150k miles let alone 99k miles that didn’t have 50k of work done to it
@@stavroslask1292 I mean... using 150k miles as a measurement if a 700+ hp high perofrmance v10 engine is reliable is a bit strange...
@@KTMmarkus ok 75k miles…..
I guess I'll give him credit for no one when they were in over their heads or out of their league and couldn't do it but they jumped in on the job when they saw how much money they would possibly make even though it was beyond their ability. Dave do you still warranty or repair with that used oil pump?
That young man's gonna go far as a mechanic. He was latched on to every word Dave spoke. There's something about a young man that is willing to listen to experience from others versus thinking he knows everything right off the rip.
Agreed👍. Wish him the best
As a 38 year tradesman in business for 26 years I would like to compliment that young man for asking for help from this older mechanic. Smart move. Next I would like to compliment this older mechanic for teaching and advising this young man with absolutely great advice. Mentoring from older guys is almost a thing of the past.
As a mechanic that’s getting older now, my advice to these young guys would be that sometimes you gotta know when to turn jobs down and/or know when to walk away from one. This thing is a can of worms I’d never wanna get into but I admire their work ethic and tenacity. Be kind to these young guys Dave and help em out as much as you can. A little wisdom and encouragement can go a long way to helping steer a young man the right direction
I’ll take this advice with me thank u🙏
We turn a lot of job away great advice
Maybe they should save up their money and get one of those machines they can hook up the engines to and check everything without taking the engine down. It would save them hundreds of thousands of dollars over time.
@@warrenb8228that's a big expense for something just starting out; those machines can be in the high 5 figure range to start.
As an 80 year old retired mechanic I appreciate the extra time you spent with these young guys. In my mid-20's I didn't know what all I didn't know! Looking back, I'm sure I tried the patience of a few guys but it sure helped me.
Right on
PLEASE film the WHOLE process of this. I love watching to guys at work with all your machinery.
If it was a rental (as the kid in the video suggested), then you KNOW that it was well-maintained & gently driven by little old ladies.😊
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Just needed "something low to the ground to drive to bingo in"
And the mileage was never "tempered' with. I'd bet it has odometer tampering device in there still
@@DavesAutoCenterCenterville Mayday Mayday Abandon Ship, Abandon Ship, get off that Lambo Titanic before she goes under.
That motor is a barrel of monkeys. Be careful.
It’s a barrel of barrels of monkeys.
Yeah totally red flags when a motor guys bringing the motor to another motor guy red flags all day.📡🇺🇸👽 Pulling a 1-900 it's your fault.
omg, the replaced parts and witness marks - if this is from a RENTAL lambo, i might not care as much
Think cubic dollars.
@@paulskopic5844I digg that gauge
Amazing to see the discussion with the young mechanic.
Soon as he said it was a rental at some point I knew this thing was toasted. Guarantee you this was run hard every chance a driver had, taking it to redline in every gear, burning the crap out of it, and the rental agency did not maintain it properly. Either let it run low on oil or never changed it, especially after hard runs.
After you do the compression test if there’s still issues, RUN from this as fast as you can!
Soon as he found out it was a rental he should've ran. I would almost bet the house it was ran low on oil or never changed after the warranty was up.
And I bet the rental company had a milage blocker to so it’s prob twice that
@@verteup I didn't know the car was a rental. Personally I would have not touched the car with a 10 foot pole. chuckles.
@@steven-nb6rt i just hope they aren't being set up... "We know this has tons of issues so we'll pawn it off on a honest hard working garage just too claim they damaged it". Even if this happens, i have a feeling these guys will recover and be a solid shop in the end.
How are you gonna run a Huracan to redline every gear on the street? 😂 just trying to imagine the logistics there. Agree with your point though
If it was a rental,it was probably abused by several renters. This could be the end of the road for that Lambo.
It was probably abused by 99% of the renters
Seems like it's the end of the road for anyone who can't for whatever reason dump the required money into it.
I’d have caned the living fuck out of a rental Lambo. 😂
Abused yes no doubt, but it has 15000 miles,? They made it sound like that’s a lot? I’m confused, even though it’s been abused, and we don’t know that, being a Lamborghini, and most people who probably rent one of these things do not know how to drive them , they are probably not like jumping into your mustang or whatever and ripping. So being abused I’m not to sure on that. And these are made to go fast. I just find it weird that it only has 15000 on it and they made sound like a lot? Sorry I’m missing something! lol
Buying a Lambo is like marrying a pr0st1tute. It'll drain your accounts, run up debts, seduce your friends, and you'll never know a worry-free moment.
It didn't have 15,000 miles, it had a mileage blocker on it. I would guess 50,000 miles.
either that or some idiot revved it to the limiter in neutral
Poor kid sounds like hes trying to get it done as cheap as possible and Dave is trying to do as best as possible.
Sometimes you have no other option than to work with the budget of the customer. It's likely that the used pump was the customers decision, or the only part they could get their hands on in the timeframe.
Naw this young man isn't trying for lowest bidder. I didn't catch if he knew that Dave's does YT, but he knew what he was getting into
In aircraft maintenance we always kept our fleet on a oil spectrometric oil analysis program ( soap) . The military does also. With any kind of exotic car I would want to keep it on a soap program. During oil changes a sample of oil is taken as well as a filter and sent to a lab. The lab could send you back a report of the various metals in parts per million that is in the oil that were either normal or abnormal readings. Any abnormal readings could point to a part failure internally, and you were ahead of the curve by knowing what corrective action would be coming down the road . It’s hard to believe people that own these expensive cars wouldn’t want to do the same thing to prevent these types of failures.
We do that for our offroad trucks too. Every 250 rpm hours.
Running 16-20 drive hours per day, that test interval comes up pretty quick.
Spot on sir. Only way to be sure what's going on inside the motor.
SOAP saml
Another great comment from our aircraft community 👍
The rich don't drive them 😂. It's money down the drain. They'd rather have it as a status symbol but not much else. Oil change is a few thousand easy. Hell, any basic maintenance is thousands of dollars
Love seeing Dave taking the time to mentor a young stranger. The world needs more Dave's!
Got that right love this channel
Something smells fishy about this one. The car has been on the road for 10 years, and 15,000 miles. Hundreds of operating hours. Comes in for an electric rack, a coil, and maybe a service. Suddenly, the oil pump goes on them too? Lots of extra talking, filler, and distractions. E.g. "I heard it was a rental", "Someone else has serviced the engine before, see these marks?" "Look at this broken bolt someone irresponsibly didn't replace" While Dave is sitting there going "uh-huh, yeah."
At the end of the day, it's a VW product and they can fail. That said, that V10 has a pretty solid track-record for reliability.
It may not be coincidence that this unrelated major failure occurred in these same moments under the care of these guys. I think Dave knows that too, but didn't want to put them on the spot like that. Rightfully so, as nothing is going to hurt them worse than the cost of what could be a mistake made by this little shop. As a technician myself, surprise failures while a car is under our care are almost always the result of someone being a human. Making a mistake or two along the way happens sometimes, as much as we try to focus. I messed a really big job when I was young and starting out, years ago. I'm sure it has happened to Dave a time or two. I remember that feeling of desperation, you can almost see it on his face in the video.
Sometimes you get lucky, and it just ends up being a big scare. Sometimes things really do break at extremely inconvenient times. Fingers crossed for this engine, and the shop owners regardless.
That's just my take based on the little peek this video gave us all into what is to surely be a great set of videos to see.
Great vid and knowledge sharing, as always.
I hope this kid protected himself from liability. Used car dealerships aren’t usually managed by the most trustworthy people
The used car dealer most likely knew the engine was toast and tried to pawn liability off on these guys.
Definitely see that. They seem worried the dealership probably already shifted the liability to them
Just like anything across professions,you touch it you own it.
With that much material in the oil filter I would be taking the sump off before spending any time hooking it up to a bench. If the sump is full of glitter its game over. Full engine rebuild time as its going to be everywhere. These dry sump pumps on the V10s are crazy powerful, its why they are shaft driven. The old pump can easily be refurbished, in fact thats what I would do. Its not cheap but much better to start with a "new" pump vs a used one. There are specialist companies that will do a rebuild, or you can get parts and DIY - they are not actually that complex.
You taking the time to share your wisdom with these young men I pray lands well and brings success full circle.
What was the wisdom? The 4Cs?
You should price the oil change at the actual lambo dealership
You could tell the kid was super grateful to get 5 mins of mentorship from Dave. Love it!
The kid huh , I remember thinking at that age that I was fully an adult . Sure we all know we can learn something extra from others . It's a time of life when we prefer to not look ten years younger than we are but it happens.
@@Philip-hv2kca kid in the grand scheme of life dude. Use your brain
Amazing guidance, Dave! Showed them respect and gave them valuable time. I also applaud them for coming to you. They clearly want to get this done correctly and make a living. You're a good man!
Much appreciated!
The 5.0L V10 engine from Lamborghini, especially from 04-05, are plagued with issues. More specifically, rod bearings commonly wearing down near 40-50K miles or SOONER, the primary cats can break down and shooting catalytic material back into the motor, as well as general oil consumption issues. Generally; it’s a weak motor in comparison to the 5.2L V10 introduced in 09’ and doesn’t withstand much boost or modifications for anyone that’s tried to push these motors further. A shame! Because these 5.0L engines sound unbelievable.
Very interesting appraisal. Good comment.
I have been a shade tree mechanic my entire life (There is a very cute picture of me at 18 months old covered in grease and oil head to toe while my father rebuild a Jeep engine--I helped!). I've torn down and rebuilt engines, drivetrains, suspensions...shade tree style. I stopped touching engines when the computers became smarter than me. There is no way I would put a wrench on that type of engine. Great job!
Thanks for sharing!
I love that you shared your knowledge with those young men in a very kind and respectful way. So many shop owners are afraid to "help the competition".
Kudos to you Dave!
Dave you are an absolute Master. Taking the time to show these young mechanics what you do and will help them find out what’s going on with the lambo engine. You sir are the meaning of “ Priceless “.
Why, why? Why, why do these people not just come to your shop in the first place, it just blows my mind how they waste their time and money not doing it right the first time.
Super Anxious for part 2 !!!!! This one smells like someone ( probably the dealer ) is not being above board/ dealing off the bottom of the deck….You know what I am saying. Not the Kid I think he is being a straight shooter.
Its very common for these cars to have their odometers rolled back. 15k miles is very unlikely.
How do they roll them back?
@@Dave-bz4pbTheir are hackers out there.
15k miles is hard miles on a lambo..
@@kurtjammer9568 They could just buy a toureg, or an Audi with this base block with an oil pump for less than this oil pump sells for used. I have cheated the game a number of times with these top end cars
@BentonL yes a friend of mine has a maserati and it apparently was going to cost $10k just for a waterpump and his cousin laughed and said they are only $120 off a ford v8 I think it was
A brand new Lambo engine with a seized oil pump? That's the most unheard of thing I've ever heard of! You really jagged an interesting one here Dave! It's gonna be cool!
LoL. Italian cars are well known for their "reliability". All brands. Especially alfa, lambo, masserati and ferrari. Fiat would be most reliable, but still crap.
It was a rental, you can imagine the abuse and launch control attempts.
@@WhiteLivesMatterPLLamborghini hasn't been italian in decades.
@@WhiteLivesMatterPLI mean imagine how car owners buy them cars with little knowledge and just do what they wanna do to them.
@@DexBunny Don't care. They still catch fire like crazy
I think the possibility of the engine not sustaining damage after oil pump failure is quite low. We'll see what the next episode reveals and look forward to seeing it. Because the engine history is sketchy, I think it should be disassembled, inspected and parts replaced as needed. At least you know what you have...
"Just check the bottom end" Bois are about to get learnt.
Learn what?
@@pricetagcitrusthe true meaning of "easier said than done"
Exactly my thought was. "Sit down and let me tell you something". Haha
Mechanics often have no other option than to work within the budget, time-frame, and requests of the customer. It's possible that the customer wouldn't have approved a deeper inspection without the opinion of an expert such as dave.
Nothing about age but these mechanics seemed to be in very deep waters here.
That's what I'm thinking. Props to the guys for having the humility to seek help when the problem seemed out of their scope.
Possibly going to get stitched up by owner/dealer if not very careful....
That's not humility that's an oh shi* moment. Better take it to someone who has an idea. @@r.b.ratieta6111
I think the two mechanics knew that. Engines like that are in a league of their own. Only thing I greatly question is failure at 15,000???
@@steven-nb6rtAny engine can and will fail at ANY mileage if it's abused bad enough. Believe me, I've rebuilt failed engines that had less than 10 hours of run time on them. It's all in how you treat them.
Good to see young mechanics going for it & listening to Wisdom - we need more; keep coming!! Thank's Dave & Crew!!
Our pleasure!
There's a shortage of mechanics in Australia if you looking to migrate.
Dave as a former shop owner and someone who’s worked on my fair share of exotics, I can tell you exactly what happened…a dealer who uses this guy for euro work said “got a lambo with a small issue, think you can help me out?” This is where people who aren’t well versed in these cars should bow out. There are too many little things you need to know to just jump into an exotic. They are a whole different animal. Don’t waste time on your machine. Metal in filter….motor needs to come apart. You might be able to salvage some parts now….
Plus exotics are the number one place for abuse and fraudulant sales. I'm never surprised when any exotic or luxury car has issues early, because people who can afford them typically don't care about maintenance costs or damage.
I can't imagine buying a "certified" used Lexus or BMW or anything of the sort is ever a good idea, lol.
Thanks for the feedback
This is exactly what happened, exotics require specific know how (speaking as a current exotic tech), and also sometimes comes down to information that was passed down from one tech to another since technical documentation is usually lacking. Kudos to them for going to someone who specializes in their field and will do right by the customer. Huracans and aventadors aren’t usually prone to major engine failure unless they’ve have turbo kits and horrible tunes.
Dave that’s awesome, it’s great to see the inner workings of your thought processes. Doesn’t matter if it’s a big old diesel or a lambo engine you know how to sniff out a problem
This engine is done. Waste of time
Your a great guy Dave! You have taught myself the 4 C’s and I now run my small shop by it and I thank you for your mentorship!
High performance engines usually will have high abuse owners. High RPM (Revolutions Per Minute) Reving the engine to show off, smoking tires doing donuts, 180 mile per hour driving, sideway driving around curves. My theory is such an expensive engine suffering major damage at 15,000 miles is the result of a crazy driver. That engine in my opinion has been abused. Mechanical devices deserve to be treated with respect. I don't care if one is driving a Lamborghini, Corvette or any other mechanical device, drive like a grandpa and your vehicle will last much longer. Don't ever buy a used crotch rocket motorcycle. Those drivers are insane Reving their engines at 8 to 9 thousand RPM's in neutral just to show off. You will be buying nothing but problems buying such a vehicle. I own a crotch rocket and I am a rare exception to the rule. Never spin my tires, never pop the clutch, never do wheeles, rarely drive over 45 miles per hour and never rev the engine. I know, I'm boring but my vehicles last a very long time. Treat mechanical devices with respect.
I love how you always push diag time first, and how thorough you’re diag is. So many shops will blindly waste the customers money on unnecessary repairs, or repairs that only treat the symptom without addressing the cause.
Shotgun instead of a rifle never heard that excellence friend Blessings to you all out there pray this world gets straightened around
Maximum respect to you and your shop Dave. Many shops would not go anywhere near that engine. Your systematic way of working is second to none 👍🏼
Thanks 👍
You are a class act Dave! A lot of folks would have run that young man off as soon as he pulled out the used pump. He is trying to take of his customer, who is trying not to clean out his bank account. He stopped when he knew things just weren't looking right and sought the assistance from someone much more knowledgeable.
Keep doing what you’re doing Dave! No sugar coating. Just the straight scoop. I wish all people appreciated that like those young men did. 👍
Outstanding Dave, really nice to see you sharing your knowledge and expertise with a young guy. We need more people like you
Best episode to date! As a teacher, you made a teachable moment! Well done.
Wow, thanks!
why do i get the fealing i smell something funkie with this engine that this kid is not telling u
i just get the fealing this kid tried 2 do a repair and was in over his head and screwed up as his skill level for working on that kind of stuff hasnt developed far enough yet and Dave spoted it
Crossed my mind
I’m not sure I’d even touch that. He’s getting it third hand with with really no repair history.
seeing you take on these young guys and really give them love and advice warms my heart. Dave you are whats good in this world!
Thanks for the general troubleshooting tips.
I love how you help these guys out. Nothing scares you.
Good to help out a young mechanic 👍
I've always called that using a "parts cannon" approach, which sadly is far too common!
I love how Dave is so assertive but eager to help. You can tell how much he wants to pass his wisdom on.
This man is always dropping Gems , helping us learn. Not everyone is willing to share the knowledge.Thank you very much sir 💯
Always a pleasure to watch your videos! Big shout out to you guys from Belgium 🇧🇪
Thanks for watching!
I have an Audi V10 (mostly the same motor as Audi acquired Lambo in 2004). I am guessing this thing leaked from the get-go, torn down to the cooler, and the mechanic used too much RTV on reassembly ... That rtv got stuck in the pickup, which is why we are here.
rtv is these days, obsolete. Loctite 518 or the Permatex equivalent is vastly safer and superior to sealing joints. Only numbnuts use rtv.
What is RTV?
@@Chad-Giga. silicon gasket maker.
Italian cars leak too
Love that: Condition, cause , correction, confirm. So sound advice from years and years of experience. Love this channel.
Thx for helping the kid out. You are inspirational.
Want to see more about this Lambo engine!! 🙂
Great channel Dave, Love your ethic and diligence. There's some guys in Calif - Sheepey Race started w/Honda's and now specialize in Lambos, Ferrari, Audi, etc. you name it - they've done it (1500-2k HPower) and know these engines upside down and bkwards. Just a ref if you need someone in this area of V-10, NOT EVER that you do not, but as you said this isn't your regular customer. Good luck, looking fwd to the Cause and Confirm.
I love watching Dave communicate. He is an incredible manager, and an amazing leader, a wonderful teacher; and of course a world-class mechanic and problem solver. He always remains calm and unflappable.The kid knew he was in the presence of someone who knows much more than him and to his credit he let Dave be Dave.
Just started watching your videos Dave. Your a hell of a mechanic/instructor & overall str8 shooter type of dude! I love it.... Definitely one of the last breeds of decent human beings that have character & pride in what they do & who they are. Love car culture & the peeps that make it up!
Dang sure is a weird to see you not working on a diesel lol but so cool to see these young men asking for help and getting help in knowledge as well.
Way to go Dave, I love the way you pass on your knowledge, I’ve been in aviation for 35 years and I love to do the same thing, pass on experience to the younger guys that want to learn, nicely done
That is awesome!
Dave is the man. A straight shooter. Awesome how he mentors these two young men. The world needs more of that. If I ever need an engine done I'll certainly consider Dave's shop and I'm in Tennessee.
Bro, you are so awesome. It's a great Channel. There are so many bad mechanics doing bad things. You give hope to regular people. It was very nice of you to teach those two kids how to be better mechanics.
Great to see the old Master at work. Great advice Dave!. That kid has a bright future provided he stays well away from the Black holes nearby......
PLEASE, can we see a follow-up video (I know Dave said there'd be one, but I'm putting more weight on the scale!).
Dave you are amazing! If I didn’t live in VA - I’d travel a few states for you and your shop to maintain my vehicles. I’m NOT a mechanic at all and the 4 C’s was a mental game changer. THANK YOU - God Bless.
Love how direct and honest is. Exactly how i strive to be in my profession.
Can't wait for pt.2.. Dave you're the man👊much love from Indian River County Fl
That young man just got some of the best advice from a master machinist engine builder✓
Dave is the man. A real straight shooter. Awesome how he tries to mentor these young men. The world needs more of that. If I ever need a motor done I'll certainly consider Dave's shop and I'm in Tennessee.
Love this Guy's advice! love this channel.
LMAO! We call that a sh#t ton! I love the "Dont sugar coat it" attitude this shop has. It's the very difference between getting it done and not getting it. LOVE THIS SHOP!
This sounds expensive.
I absolutely love this video Dave, by far the best. Perhaps instill in this young man Good habits. Bad habits in mechanics make life rough on the customer and the next mechanic
Dave, that was amazing advice You gave these young guys at the end, I'm not a mechanic but I try to do preventive maintainance on the family vehicle and im going to note those points down. Thanks !
Glad to help
It likely had a mileage blocker on it. There’s a company called SKF that sells them for about $500.
Most likely if it was a rental and is 10 years old. Just wasent maintained properly. The v10s are known for burning oil so prob was being driven on low oil for a while. Which caused all these problems
These are super easy to clock. It's also super easy to tell if it's clocked you just need to check the mileage on the other modules like the transmission matches the speedo.
@@dirtygrillNot with a mileage blocker
@@actualizare that requires a secondary device that intercepts and falsified CAN messages for the engine and transmission controllors. The vast majority of devices will simply block the gauge cluster.
Great advice please post the followup conclusion so that we can : Condition Cause Correction Confirm !
Yikes! But certainly looking forward to the next video on this engine. Great work man! Love your CCCC Philosophy!
The kid was on the right path, had great answers and steps taken and now is going to learn so much more about diagnostics, procedures and ethics. Excellent all the way around.
Hopefuly they weren’t out joyriding it beating the sack off it and broke it! That could be a deal breaker for a new shop mainly the representation of the shop. Mechanic here myself almost 20 years so I do understand sometimes crap happens and at the worst time, let’s hope the pump fixes it!
They put a junkyard oil pump on a lamborghini engine? Daheck
Very respectful guys. I love the humility coming to a pro.
It sure is nice watching a true professional with the Grace and honesty that Dave exhibits. What a great role model. Success is paid for in advance… David is a perfect example of this… we need more Daves in this world.
HARD PASS. Sorry, son, I don't think we can help you with this one. This is a "nobody wins" scenario if I've ever seen one.
Was always told to follow the "4 C's". What is the Complaint? What Caused it? How did you Correct the problem? Did you Confirm your work?
Dang good guidance for younger techs.
Well done, Dave. Thanks for the video. You guys rock!
Can't get enough of what you guys are up to in your shop. I'm really looking forward to your upcoming show but do hope it doesn't put a halt to your online videos.
This was good to watch. I was sad because my cars engine is getting old and tired at 225,000 miles. I can't imagine what it must feel like to blow an engine at 15,000 miles.
My 5.7 in my 1997 can has 240k..and great oil pressure..and pulls strong....amazing how delicate the lambos are...nice car to look at I guess
Love these videos with exotic engines. Interesting how you react to a $200 K engine .
Dave and his guys at his facility are bar none running to the top. Good bless y’all!
It’s absolutely amazing just listening to Dave’s wisdom. This guy is a genius and always teaches the correct discipline and patience to fellow mechanics.
It’s a defective engine! Italians aren’t known for building engines or transmissions that last 300k miles
good thing it's German. The 5.2 v10 is well-known for its excellent reliability.
@@samuelmurphy8692 dude spare me! No lambo or Ferrari engine lasts 100k miles
Be interesting to see where this one goes! Keep us updated!
For sure!
Very generous of you to take time out guess it make great content. It got my attention.
This is a great freaking channel, i have a lot of respect from you Dave, ALOT!!!!!!!