Carbon Fiber Table Top - Glasscast epoxy pour
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2018
- Hi Everyone! In this video I show you how you can make a wooden table top look like Carbonfiber. It is a real carbon fiber that is being applied by "skinning" it on top of a wooden tabletop using Easy Composites "Glass Cast" epoxy resin.
I first started with some leftovers of a woodworking friend who had some wooden circles from a project he did. I just had to touch it up a bit at some places by applying some polyester bondo or filler. After that I've rounded the edges with a router for a better pour. By this I mean that it will flow more evenly over the edge and the Carbon Fiber and Texalium will be easier to apply over that rounded edge. Once the wooden base was sanded I've applied some black and white acrylic paint to seal the wood. Just a quick rub with sanding paper then to remove any high spots out of the paint and I was ready for the first pour of the glass cast. I've mixed 600 grams of Glass Cast epoxy resin with a ratio of 2 to 1. Meaning 400 grams of part A and 200 grams of part B (by weight) I mixed everything thoroughly in the first cup, then applied the Two Cup system; meaning after a first mix I take another cup to pour it over and mix it again. That way you ensure that there is no, or at least not much unmixed resin in your cup that would result in a bad casting with patches not curing. After mixing I've poured the resin on top of the table tops and waited for it to cure. The only problem I had or would have done differently is waiting a bit less long to have the resin in a tacky state. That way I would be able to stick the carbon fiber better on the table top before going over it with a new layer of epoxy resin with a regular brush. The problem here was resin pooling up under the cloth making it harder to get it flat. I've then waited for that layer to go tacky to apply another layer on top and let it fully cure for over 48 hours. Once cured I started sanding the top of the furniture with a disk sander and a 240 grid sanding paper. first dry sanding followed by some wet hand sanding to make sure I don't burn through the carbon fiber and aluminium fiber to avoid a bad finish. It's always a good ding to trim of the edges before sanding with a sharp razor blade or stanley knive. The Carbon Fiber is harder to cut. Therefore I've used an angular grinder with a flapdisk or sanding pad. After sanding the entire part and edges I've started cleaning the piece with some soapy water and made sure no dust or dirt was trapped on the part. After cleaning it with water I've moved the two tabletops in my office, where it is dustfree to apply the final coat. I've repeated the two cup mixing technique and poured the Glass Cast Epoxy resin from easy composites on top of the part and spread it out nice and evenly over the entire part using a spreader with teeth. You will notice that the further you get in layers the easier it will get to get a nice clear and glossy finish. I make sure i rub the edges with resin so that it will all flow out nicely without having surface tension. Then it's just a matter of waiting for it to fully cure (+/- 48 hours ideally) and admire you'r work! This is definitely a project that still needs to be finish. I'll maybe finish it with a soft sand and layer of clear coat to protect the part even more and get an even better finish. Next on the to-do list is make table legs that would nicely fit under it.
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Love the humble attitude, love the fact that you share the things that went wrong in the project, that is gold there, more intuitive than any manufacturing footage
I like your video in that you are not hiding your mistakes to give us not a slick up video but an honest one. you learn from your mistakes so we can possibly learn from them as.well.
Thanks for the video.
I was looking for inspiration for my PC table. Definitely gonna have to be CF!
Could be take my breakfast always in this table like a King ! Bravo great job ! 👏
Thank you for sharing those extra tips.
You did great with the process. Came out beautiful. 👍
Some quality work I must say
Thank you
The mistake if perfect 👍🏽. We ALL make them. Plus, it helps us learn. Thank you for another GREAT video.
Thanks, and indeed mistakes or part of the process! glad you like the video
Well done! Love it! I have some carbon mirage fiber im going to try that with. Has carbon one direct and a copper wire the other direction thank you for the idea!
Very nice. Thank you for putting these up. I've had to learn to work with composites over the past couple of months b/c of my job, your channel has really come in handy for tips and work flow. Thanks again! Very helpful as always.
No problem! glad you like the videos I upload. Very happy to know that I'm able to help you in some way!
This guy is an amazing craftsman! Wow!
Great work man...! love the reflection there
Roto a zip with cutting wheel riding on the edge works great for carbon fiber.. I had 3 coats but same way I did it
Matthieu libeert thank you for the great work and great videos👍.
Please if you can make a video about how to make or aline a cross weave carbon fiber (V weave) in different methods like preg and laying.
Thanks again for all your beneficial videos.
Awesome. I’d love to have one
Great product video
Great glossy shine
Wow. Thanks for sharing.
Oh my got it is amazing
Great video.
Great work love it
Thanks a lot Warren!
Great job young man!
Thanks!
Great stuff! Thanks for for posting, very helpful, I’m about to do a table with a sea chart on top, wish me luck. David
Should look good! Good luck 😉
looks great,
Aluminium looks great. Means any dust should work. Red or yellow iron oxides. Copper pouder. Carbon dust. You can then use reflectives too like pearl or gold dusts.
great work bro,, very informative.. 👌
Well done it looks great.
Thanks ☺️
Excellent example of skills
Thanks 😊
This is a great idea for a boring glass computer desk i have!
I found an aluminum patio table by a dumpster and grabbed it to recycle and make a few bucks since I take in cans every few months anyway. It had a tag on it and I googled it. If the glass top wasn't broken it's a crazy expensive table! I have the aluminum oval top that is in good condition, but no glass. The replacement glass makes up about %60 of the MSRP. I might invest in a carbon fiber kit and try making a top for it. I might he able to make $400 plus material cost if I find a buyer that wants a lightweight racing table! It's a bit of a gamble, but maybe worth it.
how mush surface (about ) is the table , 1m2 ?
how mush resin did you use to do the whole table ?
looking intoo making a kitchen countertop in about the same way
3M Super 77 adhesive will help it the carbon fiber stick. We would use on over 40 layers of carbon fiber. It works! Great job btw!!
Thanks for the tip!
I was just looking for something to watch, so excellent timing!
Oh before I forget, in your previous video I commented and asked if you have experience/experimented with thermoplastic composites. And if you have, how was your experience working with it?
I've tried them, I have tried it with some Flax fiber with thermoplastic on it (easy composites sells it) But havent got good results out of it so far, I think you need a lot of pressure or work with heated press moulds, so its a bit of a more complex process
I looked it up on their website and it seems that they are using PLA (Polylactic acid) and PP (polypropylene) as the binder. As far as I understand it is intended to be heated to a temprerature (similar to 3D printing) where the thermoplastic becomes soft and Malleable. Then you have to force it into a mold (with just enough strength to keep it in place untill it cools.
I have thermoplastic composite sheets but do not have the required tools yet to actually shape it. Most important: the oven to heat the sheets to a working temperature.
Would you be interested in a sheet to experiment with? I wouldn't mind sending you one (no cost), as a thank you for the video's and knowledge you share in them (and ofcourse because I am curious to see if you are able to shape them). I got sheets in 1.6 and 2.5mm thickness available, they are made of carbon fiber with PEEK or PEI binder.
Good job
Good job bro
Very good
To make carbon fibre products strong, it is usually with very minimal resin amount and carbon fibre matt is rolled to consolidate the fibres and to squeeze out the excess resin as well as air. See carbon fibre wheels vids.
Very nice job - being a lefty sucks sometimes but the 10 Inch Kevlar Shears (Left Handed) are decent!
But you have got me thinking about doing the same on my 8ft x 4ft desk haha
Haha even for me it would be a bit to much Carbonfiber 😏 would defenitly go for a bigger weave like the Easycomposites 650 even on this small table I feel like the weave is 'disappearing'
Very cool next carbon fiber countertops😀👍
Would be a cool idea indeed!!!
hell yeah whole kitchen
Dude that would look so great in a bachelor pad kitchen!
Matthieu Libeert Would it be scratch resistant enough for daily use? Thks
@@MichaelKch007 Not really no, when compared to a granite or stainless steel counter top anyway.
Very nice. Does the Clearcast discolor white paint? Some clear epoxy turns white yellowish
Tell me, how does the table surface behave when exposed to heat, for example, when a hot pot, hot kettle or other hot object is placed on the surface? Will the glossy surface be damaged by thermal influences?
hello my friend congratulations for your great work very profesional.....where can i find for sale the carbon fiber and texalium will i have been looking at easycomposites not found..you can help me...thaks
I also have those shears and didn't consider that they where for right handed people when I bought them. They cut really well but hurt your thumb rater quick. I did manage to improve it a bit with some foam and tennis griptape.
When you remove the excess cloth on the bottom of the table after the last layer, do you wait untill it is fully cured or do you trim it earlier? The last few times I worked with it I trimmed it after about 7 to 8 hours, the epoxy was still a bit soft at that stage so didn't take much effort.
Great idea with that tennisgrip and foam to soften the feel of that grip! I've waited for it to fully cure but if you find the right time you could trim it while it still being just a bit soft. That way you are able to cut through it pretty easily, but with more risk to lift the weave.
Yeah "us lefties" have to be creative from time to time.
About the curing/trimming, makes sense that it comes with a risk of lifting the material from the mold. I'll definately keep that in mind the next time.
Nice work! I do think you did more work than is needed though...you could buy carbon fiber vinyl wrap for very cheap and it stretches easy with a heat gun for the edges. You could just pour the epoxy over the vinyl and get the same results.
new sub, great channel
Top tip, a light misting, LIGHT misting, of super 77 does wonders to hold fabric in place while you pour and spread resin. At least on dry fabric
You might also look into wetting the fabric before laying it on the table.
I've used that trick, works great, compatible with the resins.
Very nice result ! Good Job ! 👍🏽 ! But can we imagine the same thing but with vynil 3M carbon ?
Sure could work but it's not 'real' the and you would notice a difference but that would be a cool first testcase for you 🙂
Good content!! Can you put a list of materials and where to buy them 🤔
Stinger makes a spray adhesive that is perfect to tack down the carbon fiber so it doesn't rise when wetted out. you just have to use it very sparingly.
Thanks for the info!
Hi there, hope u r doing good. Its a great turorial and yes doing a primer would be good, but its okay. The reason of me watching your video is my Dad. He is recently introduced to resin and he is in love wirh it. He's been watching videos non stop. He really wants to buy the Carbon fiber cloth but he is in Pakistan. And its not available there. If you could, can u pls send me the details where did u buy the fabric from and how much did it cost u for the whole roll? Thank you so much, looking forward for the reply.. Kind regards.
Woah that would be awesome where to buy?!
I like
Could I ask if you have these parts still, what are the surface temps in direct sunlight? How much cooler is the aluminum? Also I have a big project if you are interested to fly in, I think it would generate alot of views if you are interested
It looks great! How long before they get all scratched up from use?
Any surface gets scratched. They can be repolished.
I be doing this to my desk
Good luck! Should be awesome
Perfetto
good friend greetings from Colombia good job wanted to ask you what kind of fabric is that where you apply the resin as that fabric is called?
Carbon fiber?
Nice
Thanks !
You can use satin fabric with a similar weave, indistinguishable from carbon fiber at a fraction of the cost.
Not really, you could wrap it with vinyl Carbonfiber
great job Matthieu
Thanks Peter!
so what's next Matthieu. . . ? and as you asked i prefer the carbon fibre
Finish the bottom side and Carbonfiber legs 😉
Hi Matthieu, your cnc router interests me, is that a machine you have built and run your self ?
@@onepairofhands it called x-carve from inventables
Does the CF add any strength and rigidity to the table? I am working on a design for a new computer desk and I was thinking carbon fiber laminated plywood for the top. I want it to be really thin but also ridged.
It definitely helps, even better if you add multiple layers on top and bottom
Yes it will make it extremely rigid and you can always add more layers of carbon to make it even more rigid
totaly awesome. don’t paint it, use car paint compound to buff the last step and give maximum shine.
(polis le avec un compound auto pour faire resort le maximum de brillance et enlever les défaut mineur)
Hi man, how's holding up after 3 years? I heard epoxy is quite easy to get scratched. thanks.
How is the durability? Looks like the finish can scratch easy?
Epoxy reason is EXTREMELY durable. They make resins they even call "tabletop" or "countertop" resin. I made one for my German Auto Shop I owned and it never scratched in 2 or 3 years even putting metal car parts on it often.
Check out Fiberlay.com
Nice video, would this work on Abs plastic?
Not sure about abs, but if you want to try make sure to scratch the surface with some sanding paper for a better mechanical grip of the resin on the part
It's a lot more wooden then I like
a round center foot like a bar table would be nice! in stainless
True! Will look into that if it's not overpriced 😊
Yes.
Flap disc is what that disc is called.
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I was watching and thinking....
That's never going to release from the wood.
Lol.
Thanks for the confirmation, thought it was right but not fully sure
No problem Matthew.
That was a lot of work.
When using the sander, place it on the panel before starting, if you let it run upto speed first like that you could end up gauging the surface quit deeply mate..
How long did you wait between 2nd and 1st pour at 8:00? For future tutorials it would be great if you mention wait time because that is very important.
Sometimes it's hard to tell due to different temperatures and such it can vary, but it needs to be hard but still not fully cured to have a good bond, but I'll keep your comment in mind for future videos, you have a good point there!
Zeer mooi gemaakt Matt. Simpel maar zeer origineel, en dit is wat we willen zien he.
Vraagje, ik zie dat je de eerste laag epoxy erover giet. Daarna de 2de, maar ik zie in het filmpje dat je de eerste niet geschuurd heb. Doe je dit niet, en hoe bekom je dan een goede hechting tussen de 2 lagen? Gr Robert
thanks Robert! was ook een beetje de bedoeling van de video om weer eens een iets gemakkelijkere video te maken! Je bedoeld waarschijnlijk de eerste laag over het houten stuk voor de carbon er over gaat en dan de tweede laag als deze die boven de carbon wordt gedaan om de carbon nat te maken? zolang je binnen een bepaalde tijdsspanne zit heb je nog de chemische verbinding, indien je langer dan 24u wacht moet je eerder voor een mechanische verbinding gaan wat wil zeggen dat je het best wat schuurt. De eerste laag was net iets te ver om nog te "plakken" maar was nog niet helemaal doorhard, dus was het nog mogelijk om te gieten zonder daar problemen mee te hebben :) ik hoop dat ik hiermee je vraag beantwoord? :)
Thx dude voor de snelle reactie. Ik dacht wel dat je de 2de laag binnen de 24 u mocht zetten zonder te schuren voor de hechting te behouden. Ben zelf ook nogal met carbon bezig, maar heb nog nooit met de producten van Easy Composites gewerkt, vandaar mijn vraag.......... Ik volg ook al jaren u filmpjes en kijk er altijd naar uit als er weer iets nieuws komt.
Ik begin je naam wel wat te herkennen van in de commentaren dus altijd leuk te zien dat je mij blijft volgen :) hangt natuurlijk wel allemaal wat af van je omgevingstemperaturen maar 24 uren is in het algemeen wel ok, tenzij het stuk in de volle zon staat bijvoorbeeld kan dit wel wat minder worden in tijd. Indien je een nieuwe laag aanbrengt na die tijd zal hij niet mooi meer open vloeien normaal en wat in fish-eyes open trekken.
If you want a great cost effective clear coat, we use Spraymaxx 2K high gloss glamour clear coat on our headlight restorations and paint jobs. It's decently priced and is great to use on projects like this.
You mean to finish it? I'd rather go for a 2k automotive out of spraygun then 😉
@@MatthieuLibeert correct! Yes we completely agree about the spraygun, we definitely prefer the spraygun over anything else. But, for those folks that don't have that, can use Spraymaxx 2K Clear and will work extremely well for the DIY people. :-) Great job on those tables! We are currently looking at making some dry carbon pieces for shrouds and bezels inside certain headlights. Hoping it will work!
True! Used them as well in the past! Think I've used them for the iron mask tutorial 🙂 only minor thing is more orange peel I personally think
@@MatthieuLibeert Yes ALOT of orange peel from aerosols clears
I’ve worked with concrete for 30+years, have you ever tried a vibrating platform or a 25mm concrete vibrating poker when laying up the resin. The vibration should help the resin level quicker and a lot more even.
I know about that concrete technique but don't really know if it's needed with resin... Resin be in a very liquid state all ready with just small air bubbles so might work but wouldt be something I would invest time or money in 🙂
I was thinking the vibration might help for when air bubbles are under the fibre itself, you said you were unable to use the spreader as it may damage the fibre sheet itself. The vibration should lift the air bubbles through to the fibre “in theory”.
Oh OK, but under the fibers it's wasn't air but resin pooling up, so excess of resin, I was a bit to generous there 😋 but might be something to try by vibrating it!
How much can you sell one for computer desk cover in carbon fibre
I recently skinned some car parts using epoxy resin. It looked good the day of completion, had a nice clear glass finish like i wanted. but the next day when i went to look at them, the epoxy had this purple-ish tint over them..i weighed out the resin and hardener, so im pretty the measurements were all good.. what could the problem be? could it be the type of epoxy resin itself?
What epoxy did you use?
@@MatthieuLibeert its called Aluzine epxy resin, made by fiberglass hawaii. i used the fast cure one.
Don't know it so hard to tell, every epoxy is different so will react in different ways
How long did you wait before each resin application
Depends on weather, the hotter the faster, but if I remember well it was after around 3 hours at ambient 25°c here
Matthieu Libeert what about more like 37C lol it’s hot over here maybe 2 hours.
Even less maybe but try to avoid over 30°c so start in the morning and avoid direct sunlight while curing, that way it will have more time to evenly flow and remove trapped air
Matthieu Libeert alright sounds good, I’ll probably have to do it over night. Thanks for the video by the way. Ima see if I can give it a try and some car parts
@@BeDistinct no problem! Good luck
Get a heat gun man! More easily controlled temp, no need to buy fuel, and I don't know if it matters but I wonder if a torch doesn't put contaminates in the resin since combustion is not 100 percent efficient. I wonder if hydrocarbons contaminate the resin in any way?
what is the silver carbon material that you bought? where can I get that from??
Search for 'alu fiber easy composites'
How did you make your table legs? Do you have a video for them?
Didn't make legs for this one, bought some legs online for these that I can screw on from the back
What do you get to charge for one of those tops/ tables??
Would need to check if I would be able to make more
Are these for sale. I been lookimg into doing speaker box in my denali but to be honest i cant afford to try and screw up. It looks lime its exp to make. Stuff that way. But i could give u pannel size and u can make n sell them to me for a decent price lol. I make alot of custom stuff . I do clean outs and get so much free stuff like power tools colectables antiques meteorites vintage bmx. N much much more. People throw it out so we get to keep it . But i never get carbon fiber n resin .. im sure this is a few hundred ro buy materials
Haven't watched a Mattieu Libeert video in a long time but a carbon fiber table sounds like it would be cool, clicks video...
A carbon fiber skinned wooden table...
where you happily surprised or was it rather disappointing? :p
I was very happy to find this video. I am a freak for carbon fiber and have wanted to try a project to get my feet wet. Keep up the great work
Glad to hear you liked it!
If you haven't used prepreg carbon fibre give it a go. It's so much cleaner than doing a wet layup.
I do use prepreg but this was more a tutorial based on basic materials everyone should be able to do at home
@@MatthieuLibeert Fair enough.
is it possible to get a link to buy the same carbon fiber weave?
You can find everything on Easycomposites in the uk
Make them into yin and yang tables!
Re 7:25 why not brush very thinly before apply the fibre? Would have done the trick
Would work indeed!
Nice.....can you do my entire car?
Just get a Mansory. Way easier
It's good for a half job. Sorry but that is a wrapped table with added gloss, not carbon fibre table, which are very different. I've read that carbon fibre surface can be much more scratch resistant than resin gloss finish. You could also do this so you can separate it from the mould, making it lightweight as well.
so many airbubbles u gotta apply some pressure man looks like u use tons of plastics btw how much % is the fibre ?
Don't know exactly how mush fiber, must be something like 40% or, didn't really care on this project as it's it à structural part... Not sure what you mean with bubbles, the surface was good here imo 🙂
Would be better with antique wooden legs
Good idea! Will try to try this as well! Thanks
Yuck, no way.
The modern look throughout is perfect.
hello , Where can i buy the fabric
You an find everything on Easycomposites.Co.Uk
A few tips:
1) don’t touch the fibers with bare hands. The oils from your skin interfere with the chemical bond with the resin.
2) Cut your fiber pieces prior to beginning the lamination. As soon as you mix your first batch of resin, its a ticking time bomb. There’s no sense in delaying tasks that could be done ahead of time.
3) Use a vacuum bag. This will give you a much more ideal ratio of fiber to resin in your composite, giving you better strength to weight ratio and resistance to cracking.
Correct but wanted a resin rich part here for deep shine and don't mind to much for the extra weight, vacuum bag was a bit overkill here imo and didn't want to mess with peelply and such, made various videos on that topic before and want to make an entry level video tutorial here that everyone could do at home without the use of vacuumpumps and vacuumsupply 🙂 but I get what your mean and your points are correct indeed
wow great end results and job well done! Love the video without the computer narration voice and annoying music.
Thanks 😊 glad you've liked the video
For me carbonfiber tabletop would be something totally else... For me it would be three layers with 45° turned fibre with every layer and foam core. And you always want to use least amount of resin you can, and even that will always be too much for optimum strength/weight-ratio. Ofcourse real pros would use dry carbon that will be even 70% lighter. This is honestly still scrap plywood table with shitload of resin and just appearance of carbonfiber but not the character. But other than that nicely made and good video recording and editing. I liked that sound was well recorded.
That's indeed how I would make a 'real Carbonfiber' table as well but all ready have lot of these types of videos on my channel so decided to do something else that everyone should be able to do even of they don't have accès to curing ovens and vacuumpumps 🙂
And do what with such a high performance tabletop... take it hiking to Everest? :)
If you are are after a different look, there are certainly other methods and techniques. But flexural strength/weight ratio for a tabletop... really?!
@Matthieu: Awesome video, accessible technology and fit for purpose!
Wonder if prepreg can work. We use it in the Aerospace industry.
Prepreg can work as well as long as your support material can handle the temperatures... Wood like here wouldn't be suitable due to warping under 120°c but you could find foams to do it that way... But like stated above this is more of a basic entry tutorial that everyone should be able to do at home 🙂
Choose epoxy of ca. 400 mPas viscosity,
220 grit seems a little too aggressive?
Is Ok if your wwetsanding after it... 400grit might be better, but hard to find in regular diy stores
Auto paint stores: they have grits up to 2000 Great video!
I mostly buy these online then for the higher grits. It is in fact even better to "scratch" the surface with a lower grit to create a good mechanical bond with the next layer coming on top of that one, its just a bit risky to sand with a low grit to go through your weave but if you are careful and have it under control a 200-400 grit is perfect :)
4:44 what is that material?
Called texalium for the silver and Carbonfiber for the black
chicken table legs!!!
Why not use vinyl wrap and resin
Tried it the carbon printing on the vinyl gets to a ink color and disapears.reaction with the ink.either with resin or clearcoat i tried it