Compare Tywin’s legacy to Ned Stark’s. Tywin’s legacy was built on deception, cruelty, manipulation and brutality, and instead of House Lannister being feared and respected, they are hated and loathed. The minute he died, he was pretty much forgotten shortly after and House Lannister’s power died with him. Ned Stark led with honesty, honor, justice and integrity. He, and the Starks in general, were widely loved by their people. There’s a reason the Starks were able to rule the North for 8,000 years. Long after his premature death, along with that of his son, Robb Stark, the northerners still look back on them with pride and still wish to see them avenged. Ned’s legacy survived long after he died. Tywin’s legacy died with him.
Yes, precisely and a good comparison, thank you for that. Tywin is a great example for how being (for the most part, maybe until the end of season 3) a very effective leader, but not a beloved one, and the moment he dies, pretty much no one even Talks about him anymore - which is exactly the opposite of what he wanted to achieve...
lets not forget in the starks history they were always fair they never put one house over another. and harsh and cruel only when it was needed. it became such the starks were synonymous with the north. that they WERE the north. they also didnt like to the the "game" so to speak. all because winter is coming. and petty squables will get everyone killed
Tywin's issue was that he didn't love his family He didn't care Bout their wants, desires, he never loved them in a real sense They were only investments/tools to build the family power and name
Nonsense and false, Ned was a Frozen face fool and a huge hypocrite with a stick up his arse.... And you obviously don't know anything about the stock ancestry, all the kings of winter were brutal overseers that kept their people in line where is brutal harsh Justice....even the ned was terrified just to think of their shades walking around free after a few of the swords 🗡️ that keep them bound to the crypts are missing from the statues...torren stark seemed to the only one with some sense
Lord Tywin had a gentle fool for a father so he had to do what was necessary to keep the Lannister name from crumbling into nothing, he would only as hard as he had to be
Tywin Lannister is a toxic leader behind a mask of intelligence and charisma. He is the archetype of a bad leader, not because he lacks intelligence or strategy, but because his methods rely on humiliation, threats, and manipulation. As a potential narcissistic abuser, he seeks to assert his authority by crushing others, even those who should be his closest allies: his own family. For instance, he openly belittles Jaime and Tyrion, not to teach or inspire them, but to assert his superiority. Jaime is treated as a foolish warrior incapable of grasping the nuances of power, while Tyrion is systematically mocked for his appearance and perceived weaknesses. This toxic dynamic demonstrates that his leadership is not built on loyalty or respect but on fear and submission. Tywin wields his intelligence to maintain absolute control, even at the cost of destroying the self-esteem of those around him. His total lack of empathy is not merely a form of coldness but a fundamental inability to see others as anything more than tools. This twisted form of emotional intelligence, where emotions are exploited to manipulate or break others, makes Tywin a figure who might seem "admirable" at first glance. In reality, he embodies everything a good leader should not be. What Tywin teaches us is that intelligence and charisma alone are not enough to define healthy leadership. A true leader inspires trust, builds relationships based on mutual respect, and helps others grow. Tywin, on the contrary, destroys everything he touches, including his own family, whom he claims to protect. Let us not forget this essential lesson: beware of those who shine brightly but whose shadow smothers others.
Love your comment and elaboration on Tywin as a leader, thank you for that! I agree with you of him being the archetype of "Leadership done wrong". I like his pragmatism and his effectiveness as a leader, but yes he is very toxic and in many ways what most would probably call a "Machiavellian" leader, very much similar to Frank Underwood from House of Cards. But that does not mean one should adopt his style AT ALL, as toxicity and manipulation are not attributes and instruments of a good leader (not in my opinion, at least). I think a great example of a leader who is at least as effective as Tywin, but with way more heart and humanity, is Chrisjen Avasarala from The Expanse, and I will certainly look at her in another video in the future.
Tywin's biggest failure was obvious to me; his biggest failure was that he hated the most capable of his 3 children, Tyrion, for the crime of being a Dwarf. To the point he set him up or was willing to allow him to die for a crime he didn't commit. Tywin was in the driving seat overall in the show until he was killed by the fallout of his own failures regarding Tyrion. His focus on legacy also is pragmatic. Because pragmatically, 'We are all dead in the long run,' is the ultimate reality. Tywin operates with that as his baseline. Tywin didn't operate with the need for he himself to be on the Iron Throne, only that someone from his family did, because of that baseline.
I agree that Tywin’s children were his downfall but I diagree a bit with this idea that it was because his kid’s didn’t share his goals. I would argue that Tyrion and Cersi did want to follow Tywin’s plans for Lannister family legacy. But the problem is Tywin rejected both of them in favor of his Golden Boy Jamie. And Jamie was the only kid who didn’t care about the family legacy. He was just a lovesick simp who just wanted to be with Cersi. Tyrion usually did what Tywin told him to. He was a temp Hand for his father, married Sansa at Tywin’s order, and asked Tywin to be made his heir to Castely Rock (since Jamie refused to leave the Kingsguard). If Tywin had gotten offer his hater of Tyrion and agreed to this Tyrion would have taken Sansa with him to the Rock and probably would have been a good warden of the west. Also he wouldn’t have been at Joffrey’s wedding and Tywin may have figured out who really killed Joffrey. And Cersi did what Tywin told her to do when she married Robert. S he wasn’t interested in being stuck in another loveless marriage to Loras. But Tywin didn’t take Cersi seriously since she was a woman and hated Tyrion for being a dwarf. But I think Cersi and Tyrion did mostly agree with Tywin’s plans for family legacy. But Jamie didn’t despite Tywin’s efforts. And Tywin couldn’t move on to his kids who actually mostly agreed with him.
Thanks for sharing your opinion, I really appreciate this! I think you are right when we're talking about the "early" Tyrion of seasons 1-3 (or at least 1 and 2), where I can see how he might have liked being a bit more involved in the "family business". I think this changed a little with the marriage to Sansa, and then of course in season 4, but the groundwork had been laid before, as my personal interpretation would be he always kind of knew how he could never fully satisfy Tywin's expectations. With cersei, as I said in the video, I think she was closest to Tywin's ideology, but with the distinction that for her, her children weren't just a means to an end, but she had true love for them, which after their deaths led to her not caring anymore for the Lannister's legacy, but only for herself and Power for Power's sake- which is a view the pragmatic Tywin probably wouldn't have shared, as he was never in it for vanity, but only for the legacy.
Tywin was his own downfall. How he treated his children was his downfall. How do you have three people with such useful talents or even desires to be useful and rather than develop those talents abuse and misuse them to the point where they're nearly useless or hate you? Pure idiot shit.
To understand Tywins obession with legacy you need to know his background Under tywin's farher who was a weak man, the Lannister name was a joke and looked down upon. They had no respect or fear from the other houses And their own bannerman abused and took them for granted like House Rayne Even Copying the lannister's banner for their own. The family was a laughing-stalk until Tywin took command And then things changed. The extermination of house Rayne and tywin's brutal and ruthless treatment made the lannisters great again and feared. That's what he means, legacy means a family of strentgh and power When he talks to Jamie about not caring what the sheep think he means the weaker houses His concern is the familes standing and power THAT'S why Tywin's greatest mistake was not his political plays But his family ones, he abused and mistreated his family using them as pawns and tools, not out of love but duty and the intent for them to be investments for the family names power and control None of his children really liked or loved him, they were afraid of him or felt lesser in his presence His alienation of his family because of his obsession with family name, and not family cohesion, marked his days.
To me, Tywin's biggest flaw (both in the show and the books) is his desire for absolute control. If he would have actually trusted his children, he could have seen that he had 3 invaluable players that could have made their family name last for centuries. Jamie was one of the best swordmen in the entire kingdom, Cersei was in an invaluable position as the mother of the king, while also being one hell of a political schemer in her own right. And of course, Tyrion is one of the smartest men in the entire kingdom. Had Tywin been willing to give up some of that control he coveted so much, he could have seen that he and his 3 children could have accomplished his goal together, rather than trying to force it through with fear and intimidation.
Tywin's mistake was he was a rotten father. Had he actually raised his children better Jamie, Cersei and Tyrion wouldn't be screwed up, insecure and arrogant. He would also be alive to curb his children's worse habits and not be blinded by their flaws. He may looked at his father a weak foolish leader but what Tywin lacked was he failed to discipline himself on how he treated his children particularly Tyrion He was too hung up on being in control and his children especially Cersei and Tyrion resented him for it. He was such a control freak caring more about the Lannister legacy which led to his downfall. The lack of empathy is a reason why Tywin failed.
It's easy to see where Cersei got her narcissism and short-sightedness from. Tywin. Tywin is nowhere near as bad as Cersei is when it comes to planning more than one step ahead. But his methods created more enemies for the Lannisters than friends. For every foe or rival he scared into submission with his tricks and brutality, he enraged and alianated the rest. Hell apparently Tywin had around 4 other siblings including Kevan, and he was pretty much the only one willing to follow Tywin's lead. I think the rest of his younger siblings hated Tywin and were probably glad to be rid of this narcassistic tyrant they had for an elder brother.
Yes he definitely should have done that. I still think he could have been successful if he had listened to and cared for the thoughts of his other children. Tyrion was his single greatest mistake though, you're right!
He understood perfectly that his children didn't shared his goal, he even gave more than one speech about it: they care about fun and should care about legacy, he is very disappointed, etc. So he tried to use force to make them fall in line, he used more and more force precisple to make them care, punishing them until their learned, but they fought back
Tywin doesn't want to marry Cersei to Loras in the book, it's more of a mistake made by the showrunners. They tried family trees down, and lost a lot in power/social dynamics.
Yes, I think in the books, he had quite a few candidates in mind. Theoretically, it wouldn't have mattered for the show I think, but maybe they wanted to intensify the whole "tyrell-connection" in the Series. Sadly, not the last weird choice by the showrunners 😒
Tywin didn't fail, he built the greatest house and army in the kingdoms, but as with many great men, his children were all ingrates and failed him. Jaime was taken from him by a spiteful king. Tyrion succumbed to lust. Cersei in her great wisdom destroyed all the alliances Tywin carefully built over years out sheer pettiness and stupidity. You can talk all you want about the Starks, Martells, Greyjoys, Boltons, Golden Company whatever, none of them dared do anything whilst Lord Tywin lived.
You are certainly not wrong, but I understand "failure" here more in terms of whether he succeeded in the field that mattered most to him - building a long-lasting Legacy for House Lannister. And there he certainly failed. Now, you might say this was due to Cersei's failure, but yet he should have done a better job foreseeing that she'd be unable to uphold his legacy. So to a certain extent, he is responsible for his ultimate failure, I would argue.
@ThatLeadershipGuy_EN had Tyrion not got him he would have sent her back to the Rock away from the king where she could cause no harm. Cersei is just a monster, no way to change that. Tywin had Cersei to ruin everything, Ned had a Catelyn to ruin him.
He didnt fail he just got caught without guards & his pants down. In that era of westeros there was nobody more successfull & feared than tywin lannister . He was the king without a crown espeacially after king roberts death
Ascribing Tywin's failure to being caught with his pants down and without guards would be very much like saying the Emperor died because he stood too close to a railing at the wrong time in Return of the Jedi. I like to dig a little deeper than that. Regarding the other part of the comment - you are completely correct, there was nobody more powerful than him.
@@SS-uw1ep well he died and the legacy he wanted to establish died with him. That's a failure if I've ever seen one... being at the height of power without achieving your most important goal doesn't really make you a success, does it?
Yes, but temporarily achieving absolute power and glory is not how you measure success - you measure success by achieving your goals, which ultimately he did not.
Caring about legacy is very pragmatically, it means caring about increasing the power of the family, make sure your descendants survive and thrive. Strange you didn't catch that
A "pure" pragmatist would not care at all what happens after his death - as Tywin says himself at one point: in the long run, we are nothing but dust. So I don't see what I should have caught there to be honest.
@@ThatLeadershipGuy_EN No, he cares about material reality. If he could be immortal he would, but doing what he is meant to do biologically is the next best thing, he is being responsible and doing what he can instead of having fun. People are not immortal but genes are, he is being objective about following the purpose he is program to follow. He is being pragmatic about achieving what everybody else is unconsciously and ineffectively trying to achieve by following their passions
@@sergoldenhandthejust1495 I don't say it's opinion, I say it's ideological. And it is, as Tywin gains nothing tangible for it in his lifetime, thus making it an odd goal to pursue if you are as pragmatic as he is. Fact.
Compare Tywin’s legacy to Ned Stark’s. Tywin’s legacy was built on deception, cruelty, manipulation and brutality, and instead of House Lannister being feared and respected, they are hated and loathed. The minute he died, he was pretty much forgotten shortly after and House Lannister’s power died with him.
Ned Stark led with honesty, honor, justice and integrity. He, and the Starks in general, were widely loved by their people. There’s a reason the Starks were able to rule the North for 8,000 years. Long after his premature death, along with that of his son, Robb Stark, the northerners still look back on them with pride and still wish to see them avenged.
Ned’s legacy survived long after he died. Tywin’s legacy died with him.
Yes, precisely and a good comparison, thank you for that. Tywin is a great example for how being (for the most part, maybe until the end of season 3) a very effective leader, but not a beloved one, and the moment he dies, pretty much no one even Talks about him anymore - which is exactly the opposite of what he wanted to achieve...
lets not forget in the starks history they were always fair they never put one house over another. and harsh and cruel only when it was needed. it became such the starks were synonymous with the north. that they WERE the north. they also didnt like to the the "game" so to speak. all because winter is coming. and petty squables will get everyone killed
Tywin's issue was that he didn't love his family
He didn't care Bout their wants, desires, he never loved them in a real sense
They were only investments/tools to build the family power and name
Nonsense and false, Ned was a Frozen face fool and a huge hypocrite with a stick up his arse.... And you obviously don't know anything about the stock ancestry, all the kings of winter were brutal overseers that kept their people in line where is brutal harsh Justice....even the ned was terrified just to think of their shades walking around free after a few of the swords 🗡️ that keep them bound to the crypts are missing from the statues...torren stark seemed to the only one with some sense
Lord Tywin had a gentle fool for a father so he had to do what was necessary to keep the Lannister name from crumbling into nothing, he would only as hard as he had to be
Tywin Lannister is a toxic leader behind a mask of intelligence and charisma. He is the archetype of a bad leader, not because he lacks intelligence or strategy, but because his methods rely on humiliation, threats, and manipulation. As a potential narcissistic abuser, he seeks to assert his authority by crushing others, even those who should be his closest allies: his own family.
For instance, he openly belittles Jaime and Tyrion, not to teach or inspire them, but to assert his superiority. Jaime is treated as a foolish warrior incapable of grasping the nuances of power, while Tyrion is systematically mocked for his appearance and perceived weaknesses. This toxic dynamic demonstrates that his leadership is not built on loyalty or respect but on fear and submission.
Tywin wields his intelligence to maintain absolute control, even at the cost of destroying the self-esteem of those around him. His total lack of empathy is not merely a form of coldness but a fundamental inability to see others as anything more than tools. This twisted form of emotional intelligence, where emotions are exploited to manipulate or break others, makes Tywin a figure who might seem "admirable" at first glance. In reality, he embodies everything a good leader should not be.
What Tywin teaches us is that intelligence and charisma alone are not enough to define healthy leadership. A true leader inspires trust, builds relationships based on mutual respect, and helps others grow. Tywin, on the contrary, destroys everything he touches, including his own family, whom he claims to protect.
Let us not forget this essential lesson: beware of those who shine brightly but whose shadow smothers others.
Love your comment and elaboration on Tywin as a leader, thank you for that! I agree with you of him being the archetype of "Leadership done wrong".
I like his pragmatism and his effectiveness as a leader, but yes he is very toxic and in many ways what most would probably call a "Machiavellian" leader, very much similar to Frank Underwood from House of Cards. But that does not mean one should adopt his style AT ALL, as toxicity and manipulation are not attributes and instruments of a good leader (not in my opinion, at least).
I think a great example of a leader who is at least as effective as Tywin, but with way more heart and humanity, is Chrisjen Avasarala from The Expanse, and I will certainly look at her in another video in the future.
Tywin's biggest failure was obvious to me; his biggest failure was that he hated the most capable of his 3 children, Tyrion, for the crime of being a Dwarf. To the point he set him up or was willing to allow him to die for a crime he didn't commit. Tywin was in the driving seat overall in the show until he was killed by the fallout of his own failures regarding Tyrion.
His focus on legacy also is pragmatic. Because pragmatically, 'We are all dead in the long run,' is the ultimate reality. Tywin operates with that as his baseline. Tywin didn't operate with the need for he himself to be on the Iron Throne, only that someone from his family did, because of that baseline.
You are right.
I agree that Tywin’s children were his downfall but I diagree a bit with this idea that it was because his kid’s didn’t share his goals. I would argue that Tyrion and Cersi did want to follow Tywin’s plans for Lannister family legacy. But the problem is Tywin rejected both of them in favor of his Golden Boy Jamie. And Jamie was the only kid who didn’t care about the family legacy. He was just a lovesick simp who just wanted to be with Cersi. Tyrion usually did what Tywin told him to. He was a temp Hand for his father, married Sansa at Tywin’s order, and asked Tywin to be made his heir to Castely Rock (since Jamie refused to leave the Kingsguard). If Tywin had gotten offer his hater of Tyrion and agreed to this Tyrion would have taken Sansa with him to the Rock and probably would have been a good warden of the west. Also he wouldn’t have been at Joffrey’s wedding and Tywin may have figured out who really killed Joffrey. And Cersi did what Tywin told her to do when she married Robert. S he wasn’t interested in being stuck in another loveless marriage to Loras. But Tywin didn’t take Cersi seriously since she was a woman and hated Tyrion for being a dwarf. But I think Cersi and Tyrion did mostly agree with Tywin’s plans for family legacy. But Jamie didn’t despite Tywin’s efforts. And Tywin couldn’t move on to his kids who actually mostly agreed with him.
Thanks for sharing your opinion, I really appreciate this!
I think you are right when we're talking about the "early" Tyrion of seasons 1-3 (or at least 1 and 2), where I can see how he might have liked being a bit more involved in the "family business". I think this changed a little with the marriage to Sansa, and then of course in season 4, but the groundwork had been laid before, as my personal interpretation would be he always kind of knew how he could never fully satisfy Tywin's expectations.
With cersei, as I said in the video, I think she was closest to Tywin's ideology, but with the distinction that for her, her children weren't just a means to an end, but she had true love for them, which after their deaths led to her not caring anymore for the Lannister's legacy, but only for herself and Power for Power's sake- which is a view the pragmatic Tywin probably wouldn't have shared, as he was never in it for vanity, but only for the legacy.
Tywin was his own downfall. How he treated his children was his downfall. How do you have three people with such useful talents or even desires to be useful and rather than develop those talents abuse and misuse them to the point where they're nearly useless or hate you? Pure idiot shit.
To understand Tywins obession with legacy you need to know his background
Under tywin's farher who was a weak man, the Lannister name was a joke and looked down upon. They had no respect or fear from the other houses
And their own bannerman abused and took them for granted like House Rayne
Even Copying the lannister's banner for their own.
The family was a laughing-stalk until Tywin took command
And then things changed. The extermination of house Rayne and tywin's brutal and ruthless treatment made the lannisters great again and feared.
That's what he means, legacy means a family of strentgh and power
When he talks to Jamie about not caring what the sheep think he means the weaker houses
His concern is the familes standing and power
THAT'S why Tywin's greatest mistake was not his political plays
But his family ones, he abused and mistreated his family
using them as pawns and tools, not out of love but duty and the intent for them to be investments for the family names power and control
None of his children really liked or loved him, they were afraid of him or felt lesser in his presence
His alienation of his family because of his obsession with family name, and not family cohesion, marked his days.
His biggest failure was letting Cersei do whatever and not utilizing the 2 smart sons he had.
Extremely well presented and a lot of take outs which I personally find exceptionally relevant! Thank you, Laszlo! Nail on the head and all that 😊
Thank you so much for your kind words, really means a lot to me! 🥰
Very interesting and informative video thank you. Having a mind to think about what other peoples goals are is a very good idea.
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To me, Tywin's biggest flaw (both in the show and the books) is his desire for absolute control. If he would have actually trusted his children, he could have seen that he had 3 invaluable players that could have made their family name last for centuries. Jamie was one of the best swordmen in the entire kingdom, Cersei was in an invaluable position as the mother of the king, while also being one hell of a political schemer in her own right. And of course, Tyrion is one of the smartest men in the entire kingdom. Had Tywin been willing to give up some of that control he coveted so much, he could have seen that he and his 3 children could have accomplished his goal together, rather than trying to force it through with fear and intimidation.
Tywin originally had great plans, that were beyond ambitious.
The plan was for Jaimie to marry Lysa, and for Cersai to marry Rhaegar.
Tywin's mistake was he was a rotten father. Had he actually raised his children better Jamie, Cersei and Tyrion wouldn't be screwed up, insecure and arrogant. He would also be alive to curb his children's worse habits and not be blinded by their flaws. He may looked at his father a weak foolish leader but what Tywin lacked was he failed to discipline himself on how he treated his children particularly Tyrion He was too hung up on being in control and his children especially Cersei and Tyrion resented him for it. He was such a control freak caring more about the Lannister legacy which led to his downfall. The lack of empathy is a reason why Tywin failed.
Yes! I have narrowed it down a little to the "Falling to understand his kids" part, but probably you're right. He pretty much sucked as a father 👍
It's easy to see where Cersei got her narcissism and short-sightedness from. Tywin.
Tywin is nowhere near as bad as Cersei is when it comes to planning more than one step ahead. But his methods created more enemies for the Lannisters than friends. For every foe or rival he scared into submission with his tricks and brutality, he enraged and alianated the rest.
Hell apparently Tywin had around 4 other siblings including Kevan, and he was pretty much the only one willing to follow Tywin's lead. I think the rest of his younger siblings hated Tywin and were probably glad to be rid of this narcassistic tyrant they had for an elder brother.
To be more specific,tywins biggest mistake was not utilizing Tyrions capabilities
Yes he definitely should have done that. I still think he could have been successful if he had listened to and cared for the thoughts of his other children. Tyrion was his single greatest mistake though, you're right!
He understood perfectly that his children didn't shared his goal, he even gave more than one speech about it: they care about fun and should care about legacy, he is very disappointed, etc. So he tried to use force to make them fall in line, he used more and more force precisple to make them care, punishing them until their learned, but they fought back
Tywin doesn't want to marry Cersei to Loras in the book, it's more of a mistake made by the showrunners. They tried family trees down, and lost a lot in power/social dynamics.
Yes, I think in the books, he had quite a few candidates in mind. Theoretically, it wouldn't have mattered for the show I think, but maybe they wanted to intensify the whole "tyrell-connection" in the Series. Sadly, not the last weird choice by the showrunners 😒
He tried to marry her to Willas, but Olenna turned it down, saying she was too old.
great video! thank you for the correction on pronuniciation
Thank you for your kind words - and the correction last time 😊👍
Tywin didn't fail, he built the greatest house and army in the kingdoms, but as with many great men, his children were all ingrates and failed him.
Jaime was taken from him by a spiteful king.
Tyrion succumbed to lust.
Cersei in her great wisdom destroyed all the alliances Tywin carefully built over years out sheer pettiness and stupidity.
You can talk all you want about the Starks, Martells, Greyjoys, Boltons, Golden Company whatever, none of them dared do anything whilst Lord Tywin lived.
You are certainly not wrong, but I understand "failure" here more in terms of whether he succeeded in the field that mattered most to him - building a long-lasting Legacy for House Lannister. And there he certainly failed. Now, you might say this was due to Cersei's failure, but yet he should have done a better job foreseeing that she'd be unable to uphold his legacy. So to a certain extent, he is responsible for his ultimate failure, I would argue.
@ThatLeadershipGuy_EN had Tyrion not got him he would have sent her back to the Rock away from the king where she could cause no harm. Cersei is just a monster, no way to change that. Tywin had Cersei to ruin everything, Ned had a Catelyn to ruin him.
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Being shot on the toilet can happen to any modern leader? Now, I am scared.
Probably not, but wrongly assuming your followers share your goals and visions certainly can 😉
@@ThatLeadershipGuy_EN Definitely! And... remembering to wear armour while shitting.
Sure helps 🤣
Easily my favorite character in GoT.
Mine too! One of the few with a complete arc before the latter seasons could ruin it...
Thanks!
7:41 would say tyrions focus is more on being loved .
Yes, might very well be 👍
He didnt fail he just got caught without guards & his pants down. In that era of westeros there was nobody more successfull & feared than tywin lannister . He was the king without a crown espeacially after king roberts death
Ascribing Tywin's failure to being caught with his pants down and without guards would be very much like saying the Emperor died because he stood too close to a railing at the wrong time in Return of the Jedi. I like to dig a little deeper than that.
Regarding the other part of the comment - you are completely correct, there was nobody more powerful than him.
@ i personally dont think he failed at all
@@SS-uw1ep well he died and the legacy he wanted to establish died with him. That's a failure if I've ever seen one... being at the height of power without achieving your most important goal doesn't really make you a success, does it?
@ well compared to anyone else in westeros at that time no one was more feared than tywin lannister .
Yes, but temporarily achieving absolute power and glory is not how you measure success - you measure success by achieving your goals, which ultimately he did not.
Caring about legacy is very pragmatically, it means caring about increasing the power of the family, make sure your descendants survive and thrive. Strange you didn't catch that
A "pure" pragmatist would not care at all what happens after his death - as Tywin says himself at one point: in the long run, we are nothing but dust. So I don't see what I should have caught there to be honest.
@@ThatLeadershipGuy_EN No, he cares about material reality. If he could be immortal he would, but doing what he is meant to do biologically is the next best thing, he is being responsible and doing what he can instead of having fun. People are not immortal but genes are, he is being objective about following the purpose he is program to follow. He is being pragmatic about achieving what everybody else is unconsciously and ineffectively trying to achieve by following their passions
4:40 its because his dad was weak
Bro didn’t fail
No he died on purpose without establishing his legacy 😉 but seriously though, why do you think he did not fail? Thinking about doing a video on that.
4:10 wrong family legacy is fact and not opinion, bad start already man bad start
@@sergoldenhandthejust1495 I don't say it's opinion, I say it's ideological. And it is, as Tywin gains nothing tangible for it in his lifetime, thus making it an odd goal to pursue if you are as pragmatic as he is. Fact.
Short answer: because the author and the showrunners didnt want the character to succeed.