If that had been me, and Lewis saved me from those disgusting hillbillies, there would be absolutely nothing to think about or consider. I would totally back Lewis up, and bury that guy.
deliverance is a perfect movie.....everything about it: the pacing, tone, the suspense and of course the acting. in my opinion it's one of the 10 greatest films ever made
There should be a whole genre of movies where people are dropped into the wilderness and have to fight their way out. The Edge, Predator, Deliverance. All good.
This scene is so good. Reynolds was really good in these roles, and John Voight's anguish and vulnerability is spot on. This movie was bold very much like Sunset Boulevard in expressing very taboo subjects.
" Man, that's about as buried as you can get. " A great line. Fifty years later and this film is still as chilling and dark as ever. The four actors threw in together to create an unforgettable drama. How quickly men can forfeit the civilized conventions of their cozy world for survival.
Yes and I think this was the best scene which is saying something from a film that is full of great scenes. The realization of what they've done, and the moral conflict between knowing what would normally be the right thing to do in contrast to their alien environment where people are very likely to take the law into their hands, is brilliantly shown.
The way it's shot. You're looking through branches. Everything's moving too fast. Say what you want, this was a horror film and scared the shit out of me back then and it still rings true now. So well done.
Lewis was correct. It's just like the gun debate, in the heat of the battle no police will be there to save you and you have to take matters into your own hands. It's survival of the fittest. The hillbilly and his buddy got what they created. There is no way Lewis would get a fair trial and Lewis knew that. Life's choices suck sometimes. One can only hope you don't get stuck in this type situation...
@@MrBrownsugar85 ok. What do suggest if one wants to go out in the woods with friends, has a lot of physical infirmities ie: severe arthritis and severe neuropathy so throwing hands to the degree needed to do so appreciably is not an option. Can barely shoulder a rifle, even various lightweight ones but not with with near 100% certainty as such, rules out most archery equipment but can safely use carry a large, hunting caliber handgun, wants to hunt, feel same and explore like everyone else. Does such a person give up those rights and privileges and should they face ridicule and judgment for having a so-called small penis for using the means available that he's chosen to be most effective in line with his physical abilities? Of course not. Such a person has as much right to hunt, fish and camp as every one else.
@@MrBrownsugar85 Is being able to defend yourself and your family for people with small penises too? You miss the entire point with your misandry. Typical and expected but still disgusting.
Ronny Cox’s acting here as Drew is exceptional. Especially the authentic combination of anger and despair in his voice right before this clip when he yells “This isn’t one of your f-ing games!”
It surprised me when I first saw this : I'd assumed from what I'd read about the film and the pics I'd seen that Reynolds/Lewis was clearly set up to be the hard man hero ...which he is up to a certain moment....then he's neutralised completely and is a terrified , agonized "cripple" ...and the Everyman has to step up supported by the Violated One. Wasn't expecting that !
Those four guys didn’t come to that place looking for trouble, they didn’t start the problem, the mountain men did. Also when drew said “ it a matter of the law “I doubt the mountain men care about the law, if it wasn’t for Lewis, those mountain men would have killed his friends without any remorse. So the way I see it , what Lewis did was in a way of self defense( saving his friends from being killed by someone) however even if they come forward with it like Drew wanted,the law in that town probably won’t see it that way
@@Meta_Meech what the hell's his sexuality got anything to do with this he was assaulted and he feels embarrassed about it LIKE ANYBODY WOULD BE that's why he doesn't want the word to get out
@@CrazyHorseTheSiouxW4rrior your right, and its that old disgusting excuse many rapists use whether its a male or female victim. They would say " well they may have been protesting at first, but then they soon shut up so i reckon deep down they really liked it".
These were the films of my Childhood,and this one Tops the list,no internet or mobile phones,it’s not the same anymore,all we have is memories of the life we had .
I can't believe a conversation they were having about what to do with the body? Like it's perfectly reasonable to take the body to town to the sheriff department and just think that would be just fine and dandy. Burt knew what to do.
I loved the opening of the film. It puts the characters right at the scene of a beautiful place of nature with a culture that might as well be a foreign country for most of these men.
These four guys could have all went to high school together. All four born in 1936 to 1938. Excellent casting in this movie. They talk with each other like teens in high school may together out in the wilderness, unfamiliar territory. Primal exploration, really not knowing what to do in those surroundings. Reynold's character s was right. I think sheriff at end of movie knew those two mountain men were trouble making pieces of shit. I think Sheriff realized those 2 mountain men had a fight and killed one of the city guys when he saw the life jacket. . Sheriff realized the two mountain men are probably dead. I think, It made him happy.
@@paulwhitley5515 The sheriff at the end played his part wonderfully. Very, very believable. The way he looked at them and talked to them was great. I agree. Fantastic, and very memorable, movie.
The sheriff is actually James Dickey who wrote the book. And in the book, the sheriff makes a comment about how the mountain man is a wife beating piece of shit so yeah spot on
+John Paul I heard it is a great book. I should read it. You can tell the way the sheriff is talking to them at the end that he doesn't like them (Voight, Reynolds, Beatty) and he doesn't like the mountain men, either. His town, the way it operates in a sort of backwoods way with little electricity and little influence from the outside world is soon going to change. I think he knows those asshole mountain men got in some type of gunfight with Voight, Reynolds and Beatty cause the life jacket situation. I think he knows that they probably killed the mountain men and they lost their friend who was killed by the mountain men. The sheriff just wants things to go smoothly now. No problems, no bs from the outside world. Let it be now the last few months of basically living free from the outside world. The sheriff is a big shot in that little world. Things will soon change when electricity, TV's, outside world influence will take hold completely on that little backwoods community that the sheriff now runs.
At 22 years old I’m barely seeing this movie and I loved it down to the core. Love the dialogue. These days I only watch shows like Better Call Saul or Breaking bad which have slow realistic dialogue like this. It’s rare to find good movies with amazing writing.
You can tell how fast Drew would have folded if they took the body back to town. He would have thrown Lewis to the wolves for his own benefit even after Lewis saved his life. Though one note worthy thing is…….Lewis knew he had no worse than a tie in the votes. He had Bobby.
Yeah but Drew isn't totally wrong actually he's not wrong at all and it's not like that...He understood why Louis did what he did so I don't think he would have necessarily thrown him to the wolves... He just wanted to do things by the book which is the way you should do it but doesn't always go as planned when going by the book...sometimes... You know?.... lol
@@zulu3274 …..Drew even tried to convince Ed that he wasn’t involved in this. Another indication of what he would have laid all liability on Lewis. Their plans would have had “no” value to the people in that town. The law in town like that doesn’t care about the truth. Lewis would have been fed to gators.
@@SunriseArtsCinema11 🙂oh I understand that And you're right but Drew isn't a dummy... He just had a fair point though, suppose they buried the body and then some kind of way the people were able to find the body and connected it back to them... Now they committed a murder and ran... Which would definitely get them in trouble...
@@ynotttt You have a point and I get that. But like I said Drew still isn't totally wrong in what he said... If they were questioned by the cops about what happened it wouldn't be feeding Lewis to the gator by telling the truth of the situation... If Louis is man enough to tell them the truth he would be like Yes, I shot the man with the bow and arrow because he was raping my friend at gunpoint...So it wouldn't be wrong of Drew to say that if that's the truth... And Louis shouldn't have any hard feelings against him for telling the story as it truly happened... But I would side with what Louis did in this situation if I was in it... I just would acknowledge that Drew has a fair point... It's all good... Great movie!....lol
I live in the county where this movie was made. It is based on an excellent book by James Dickey. He was a lit professor at USC ( South Carolina). This is probably Burt Reynolds best performance.
Lewis is right. The other fellow is thinking that the right thing to do is report it to police as self defense. Ridiculous. Those 4 would have been convicted and hung likely by a jury in that district. Outsiders coming in and killing one of us is how a lot of the jury would have viewed it. They did the right thing killing both mountain men. Reynolds actually saved them all from years of misery being inarcerated fighting with lawyers in that district. No Lewis. They are all fucked.
@@randomguy6117 It is sad that their friend died, but they would have had terrible lives if they hadnt listened to Lewis. I think, battling the charges of murder. etc., locked up, yeah probably beaten up and tormented. I think they would never get out. Some local prosecutor would max out the charges. Court would rule on it in favor of the prosecutor. Max charges. Jury would convict them on all charges. Likely, hung to death. No Lewis, Voight and Beatty are killed, I think. He came in the nick of time and saved them both. In another 15 minutes or so, those mountain men would have been done doing their best humiliating Voight and Beatty, then killed them both. IMO.
No. Ned Beatty gave an even better performance in "Network". Remember his one on one speech to Peter Finch about how the corporate world really works? You'd never have know it was the same guy. I believe he will be better know for that one scene. Beatty was a great character actor.
But this was the first movie role for both Ned and Ronny Cox, both of whom went on to have great film careers. Without this role, we might never know who he was.
Brilliant move. Writing, directing, casting, acting, cinematography. When discussing movies and this one comes up, it bothers me that some people want to focus on one scene. This is a dramatic thriller masterpiece from start to finish. Burt Reynolds finest performance a few years before he became somewhat of a buffoon.
I know 3 Lewis’s in movies and by far this Lewis has the most fucked up journey to deal with (the other 2 being the boy in the wb king and I cartoon and the other in meet the robinsons), but between those 3 Lewis’s, this one has got to be the best Lewis.
Burt made some good movies but he made three great movies with great performances even if he wasn't the star of some of the films. This film, Boogie Nights and the Longest Yard. I wonder how many great films he could of made if he made better choices.
a 3rd guy got into the truck with the Griner brothers at the beginning. We never see his face, the camera zooms in the hands holding a rifle or shotgun
the man who portrayed the sheriff in this film was the man who wrote the book and he claimed everything reenacted in the movie actually happened........
This film is awfully graphic for 1972. I first seen this film nearly 40 years ago when VHS rentals first became popular... and it was haunting. These men all gave superb performances. Does anyone know if this is the first film to address male on male rape? This type of crime is largely ignored, even today.
This movie is like a lifelong friend, if you saw this movie in your 20's and are now in your 50's the interpretation and meaning may have shifted. To dismiss this a southern movie where a guy gets raped is a mistake. I have always wondered what if one of the Atlanta businessmen had been black, or Hispanic?
Drew was not weak. The character of Drew was written to act as a foil to Lewis. I believe that Drew represents morality. Drew is the guy who does the right thing. What Drew was advocating for was actually the correct decision to make and he certainly was not weak standing up to an alpha male like Lewis. The characters of Drew and Lewis provide the conflict between the characters in the group. Without the character of Drew, the story arc would have been completely different. Most people would have just avoided conflict against a man like Lewis. But Drew took a stand against Lewis. That's not weak. That takes courage. Lewis represents independence, fierceness, pragmaticism over morality. And in Lewis the audience finds its hero. Lewis knew that he would probably win that vote. Bobby was in shock, he had just been raped and all he wanted to do was get the hell home and to live down the humiliation of being raped by another man. Note how Bobby initially is rather assured when stares right into the camera and he unflinchingly says, "let's bury him" but then his confidence quickly runs away from his face and he turns away and his eyes drop and he meekly says, "I don't want this getting around. (pause) Ok?" And then he repeats the word, "ok, but this time it's barely a squeak and it's a question, not a statement. (Brilliant acting by Ned Beatty by the way.) And then the vote turns to Ed. Now Lewis was smart when he asked Bobby to vote before Ed. Lewis knew Bobby would vote to bury the rapist. (And I would too.) That instantly tips the scales in Lewis' favour. And now the pressure was on Ed. It's 2 to 1 and so it's much closer to going Lewis' way but it's not a given. Ed is clearly conflicted, he's heard both arguments and truth be told, he probably wanted to side with Drew, but Lewis was like an immovable object and Ed simply succumbed to the shear force of will of Lewis and he (Ed) got fell in line. Ed represents the every man. Ed is you, Ed is me. Ed would have had a real hard time firing that arrow into the rapist, unlike Lewis who just took aim and loosed the arrow. Without Drew, the story would not have been the same. It's kind of ironic that both Drew and Lewis, opposite sides of the same coin, ended up dying when they really were both removed from what went down between the mountain men and Bobby and Ed. They paid the price. Brilliant acting by all four men in a most remarkable movie.
Lewis survived ? ...though badly injured and it was Ed who had to take on the "hero saviour" role and Bobby was the only other man standing (so to speak) .
Yes. As Ed later says of Drew, "He was the best of us." I would argue that the specific circumstances of their situation precluded the best (i.e., most civilized) aspects of themselves from being followed. The movie brilliantly examines whether the right course of action changes once the protections of civilization are removed. I find Lewis persuasive in arguing that the normal procedures and protections of civilization were no longer present for them.
In true reality, quite frankly they really didn't have a choice, if they had not buried him, they probably would not have made it out. Like Lewis said in the other scene, the law was most likely this guy's brother, cousin, uncle. Wouldn't trust that one, cut your loses and go, cost of doing business, and the hillbilly lost-- (and find Bobby some Tucks for that sore keister).
this is the best scene int he movie.....its the liberal, drew, versus the conservative, Lewis........and Ed is in the middle, trying to do the right thing.....
Imagine the guilt and shame Bobby, Lewis and Ed lived with. Calling the authorities was the only path that would have saved Drew's life. Whether Drew was shot or ended his life in despair is irrelevant because once the decision was made to bury the body, his fate was sealed regardless.
@@ianfortuna9385 Or the only person strong enough to be willing to face the consequences and not lie and hide. Mightve made for an interesting episode of forensic files.
Don't know why everyone is slamming drew? If they ever get caught they would be found guilty immediately. He's scared anyone would and even all you tough keyboard warriors to.
Drew sure as hell is no coward or weakling he’s just considering the possible consequences for the choice they are now forced to make. Once you pull the trigger on that decision there’s no going back. I do think I probably would have went with the decision that Lewis proposed. In the moment they were in there was no way of knowing with any certainty how the legal process would play out. Extremely tough decision.
Yeah, no reason to slam Drew. Under normal circumstances his position would be the correct one, and even here there's a strong case for it. The thing that tips the balance in my eyes, and presumably in Ed's, is that there was precious little chance of their returning to their normal lives if the case was tried. Their best chance by far at that point was to bury the body, even though the risks of that course were enormous. Plus there's the fact that the cost to Bobby of having to tell the full story publicly would have destroyed his chance of resuming a normal life no matter how the trial came out. They did what they had to do in that circumstance, even though in virtually any other it would have been the wrong choice.
deliverance still hasn't lost it's edge 50 years later.....simply one of the best movies ever
I couldn’t agree more
@@EmeraldCity12thMan Saw the movie at 16 years old and it made me homophobic forever.😁
So true…so ahead of it’s time.
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@@2A-Bear-Armsmost r*pists are heterosexuals
If that had been me, and Lewis saved me from those disgusting hillbillies, there would be absolutely nothing to think about or consider. I would totally back Lewis up, and bury that guy.
Same here
Damn straight, yep
I'd be with Lewis too, since he's the one who came through in the clutch to save their lives.
THATS RIGHT WITHOUT that great shot it would be two dead guys
That’s 100% correct
I wouldn't even have to think about it under those circumstances.
Bury the bastard right there.
I think they should fry him up and eat his liver with some favir beans and a nice bottle of kueanti. Sthft,sfhft,sthft,sthft
Yep, absolutely, I think they would owe him that.
deliverance is a perfect movie.....everything about it: the pacing, tone, the suspense and of course the acting. in my opinion it's one of the 10 greatest films ever made
Totally agree!
There should be a whole genre of movies where people are dropped into the wilderness and have to fight their way out. The Edge, Predator, Deliverance. All good.
Drew:
> Sales Supervisor for Coca-Cola
> An accessory to murder
> fucking dies
This scene is so good. Reynolds was really good in these roles, and John Voight's anguish and vulnerability is spot on. This movie was bold very much like Sunset Boulevard in expressing very taboo subjects.
" Man, that's about as buried as you can get. " A great line. Fifty years later and this film is still as chilling and dark as ever. The four actors threw in together to create an unforgettable drama. How quickly men can forfeit the civilized conventions of their cozy world for survival.
One of the best movies of all time.
Yes and I think this was the best scene which is saying something from a film that is full of great scenes. The realization of what they've done, and the moral conflict between knowing what would normally be the right thing to do in contrast to their alien environment where people are very likely to take the law into their hands, is brilliantly shown.
"They're gonna drown the river."
Burt Reynolds best movie. I saw this as a young teen and was deeply disturbed.
This entire scene is just a beautifully acted piece of movie history. This was a very intelligently written scene!
The way it's shot. You're looking through branches. Everything's moving too fast. Say what you want, this was a horror film and scared the shit out of me back then and it still rings true now. So well done.
"Where's the Law ?". Burt can ask that question in heaven now. Amazing performance from this great actor.
So can Ned Beatty now.
Burts best performance. Great movie.
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@@jkdbuck7670Ned Beatty is still living. Ronnie Cox has passed though
"I'm with Lewis!" *SO AM I*
Lewis 4Ever
fuck those butt-rapists they can go 6ft under!
Lewis was correct. It's just like the gun debate, in the heat of the battle no police will be there to save you and you have to take matters into your own hands. It's survival of the fittest. The hillbilly and his buddy got what they created. There is no way Lewis would get a fair trial and Lewis knew that. Life's choices suck sometimes. One can only hope you don't get stuck in this type situation...
Its not at all like the gun battle.. but nice try
A killing is a killing be it with a gun or an arrow.
lol guns are for guys with tiny penises
@@MrBrownsugar85 ok. What do suggest if one wants to go out in the woods with friends, has a lot of physical infirmities ie: severe arthritis and severe neuropathy so throwing hands to the degree needed to do so appreciably is not an option. Can barely shoulder a rifle, even various lightweight ones but not with with near 100% certainty as such, rules out most archery equipment but can safely use carry a large, hunting caliber handgun, wants to hunt, feel same and explore like everyone else.
Does such a person give up those rights and privileges and should they face ridicule and judgment for having a so-called small penis for using the means available that he's chosen to be most effective in line with his physical abilities? Of course not.
Such a person has as much right to hunt, fish and camp as every one else.
@@MrBrownsugar85 Is being able to defend yourself and your family for people with small penises too? You miss the entire point with your misandry. Typical and expected but still disgusting.
Ronny Cox’s acting here as Drew is exceptional. Especially the authentic combination of anger and despair in his voice right before this clip when he yells “This isn’t one of your f-ing games!”
Lewis was right. Drew was weak. Clinging to his illusions of law. Natural law is all that matters.
Hard to believe he turned into ruthless bad ass Dick Jones.
Unless you fall foul of human law
Drew’s went from
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Nonsense. A man must display due regard for his conscience, which is what the law symbolises.
@@surengrigorian7888 no. Drew was weak.
Right up there with the Indianapolis speech from Jaws. R.I.P. Louis
Great acting from everyone in this scene.
That "HA!" Reynolds does, haha 🤣
Sarcastic yet somehow badass
"That's about as buried as you can get!"
Indeed! A GREAT line!
seriously tho Burt is a total badass in this movie
Even more bad ass in the book
Ed made the right call. Lewis saved his life. He owed Lewis.
In the rural area that I grew up in, this was called "shoot, shovel and shut-up".
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bro this isn't the Vietnam war 😂
Suuuuure it was
@user-wz3ft3vy4v You got a might purty mouth.
Also known as the 3-S method.
Great acting by all four actors.
At first,Lewis wasn't real fond of the idea about Bobby coming on this trip,but felt sympathy for him after that run in with the Hillbillies.
It surprised me when I first saw this : I'd assumed from what I'd read about the film and the pics I'd seen that Reynolds/Lewis was clearly set up to be the hard man hero ...which he is up to a certain moment....then he's neutralised completely and is a terrified , agonized "cripple" ...and the Everyman has to step up supported by the Violated One. Wasn't expecting that !
He almost dies bro lol what do you expect
Those four guys didn’t come to that place looking for trouble, they didn’t start the problem, the mountain men did. Also when drew said “ it a matter of the law “I doubt the mountain men care about the law, if it wasn’t for Lewis, those mountain men would have killed his friends without any remorse. So the way I see it , what Lewis did was in a way of self defense( saving his friends from being killed by someone) however even if they come forward with it like Drew wanted,the law in that town probably won’t see it that way
Bobby doesn’t want this getting around. Who could blame him?
"I remembered how unmanly he looked, crouched over the log, how soft, how willing to let anything be done to him." Ed Gentry, Deliverance novel, 1970.
Idk. He don’t seem too traumatized by what just happened. Both the movie and the book kinda make you wonder Bobby’s sexuality
The man was just brutally raped
@@Meta_Meech what the hell's his sexuality got anything to do with this he was assaulted and he feels embarrassed about it LIKE ANYBODY WOULD BE that's why he doesn't want the word to get out
@@CrazyHorseTheSiouxW4rrior your right, and its that old disgusting excuse many rapists use whether its a male or female victim. They would say " well they may have been protesting at first, but then they soon shut up so i reckon deep down they really liked it".
Definitely should be in any 'Best Film' list!
These were the films of my Childhood,and this one Tops the list,no internet or mobile phones,it’s not the same anymore,all we have is memories of the life we had .
The acting in this one is unequivocally----top notch. An excellent actor is when you can't tell they're acting.... Burt Reynolds best by me.... RIP.
great movie great actors- so long burt rip :'(
Need to watch this again. A real film.
I guess it’s easy to believe in democracy, if what you believe in is the same as the majority.
Lewis has it right. Bury him and do not speak of this matter again.
I was shocked when I found out that DELIVERANCE was NOT a documentary about my hometown.
Those mountain men probably had reputations for being trouble makers,so it was just a matter of time before they started in with the wrong people.
Burt's breakthrough role
Drew whines and whines.. like all people who have their ego and morals intertwined
I can't believe a conversation they were having about what to do with the body? Like it's perfectly reasonable to take the body to town to the sheriff department and just think that would be just fine and dandy. Burt knew what to do.
I loved the opening of the film. It puts the characters right at the scene of a beautiful place of nature with a culture that might as well be a foreign country for most of these men.
Unbelievably brilliant.
I'm with Lewis, too. Those psycho perverts lost all their rights the moment they unzipped.
no hesitation for bobby lol. i would do exactly the same thing lmao!!
I would have voted with Lewis to bury him
Drew actually survived and became the second most powerful guy at OCP. Robocop killed him
So did Quaid in TOTAL RECALL.
@@jkdbuck7670 Yes, his eyes bug out when he finds himself on the Martian surface.
Spoiler bruh
"Drew made a mistake!"
These four guys could have all went to high school together. All four born in 1936 to 1938. Excellent casting in this movie. They talk with each other like teens in high school may together out in the wilderness, unfamiliar territory. Primal exploration, really not knowing what to do in those surroundings. Reynold's character s was right. I think sheriff at end of movie knew those two mountain men were trouble making pieces of shit. I think Sheriff realized those 2 mountain men had a fight and killed one of the city guys when he saw the life jacket. . Sheriff realized the two mountain men are probably dead. I think, It made him happy.
@@paulwhitley5515 The sheriff at the end played his part wonderfully. Very, very believable. The way he looked at them and talked to them was great. I agree. Fantastic, and very memorable, movie.
The sheriff is actually James Dickey who wrote the book. And in the book, the sheriff makes a comment about how the mountain man is a wife beating piece of shit so yeah spot on
+John Paul I heard it is a great book. I should read it. You can tell the way the sheriff is talking to them at the end that he doesn't like them (Voight, Reynolds, Beatty) and he doesn't like the mountain men, either. His town, the way it operates in a sort of backwoods way with little electricity and little influence from the outside world is soon going to change. I think he knows those asshole mountain men got in some type of gunfight with Voight, Reynolds and Beatty cause the life jacket situation. I think he knows that they probably killed the mountain men and they lost their friend who was killed by the mountain men.
The sheriff just wants things to go smoothly now. No problems, no bs from the outside world. Let it be now the last few months of basically living free from the outside world. The sheriff is a big shot in that little world. Things will soon change when electricity, TV's, outside world influence will take hold completely on that little backwoods community that the sheriff now runs.
Until the body floats up based on how they buried it.
Long before Captain Jellico joined Starfleet.
Better side with the guy who just safe your tied-up ass!
When you're out in the wilds your perspective would likely change on how to act and what you can get away with.
At 22 years old I’m barely seeing this movie and I loved it down to the core. Love the dialogue. These days I only watch shows like Better Call Saul or Breaking bad which have slow realistic dialogue like this. It’s rare to find good movies with amazing writing.
Breaking bad realistic? Give me a break
@@Hn-gz5iw specifically said the dialogue is realistic lol
>>--------------> Thumbs Up if Your With Lewis.
You can tell how fast Drew would have folded if they took the body back to town. He would have thrown Lewis to the wolves for his own benefit even after Lewis saved his life. Though one note worthy thing is…….Lewis knew he had no worse than a tie in the votes. He had Bobby.
Yeah but Drew isn't totally wrong actually he's not wrong at all and it's not like that...He understood why Louis did what he did so I don't think he would have necessarily thrown him to the wolves... He just wanted to do things by the book which is the way you should do it but doesn't always go as planned when going by the book...sometimes... You know?.... lol
@@zulu3274 Louis knew they would never get a fairshake in that hell hole of a town
@@zulu3274 …..Drew even tried to convince Ed that he wasn’t involved in this. Another indication of what he would have laid all liability on Lewis.
Their plans would have had “no” value to the people in that town. The law in town like that doesn’t care about the truth. Lewis would have been fed to gators.
@@SunriseArtsCinema11 🙂oh I understand that And you're right but Drew isn't a dummy... He just had a fair point though, suppose they buried the body and then some kind of way the people were able to find the body and connected it back to them... Now they committed a murder and ran... Which would definitely get them in trouble...
@@ynotttt You have a point and I get that. But like I said Drew still isn't totally wrong in what he said... If they were questioned by the cops about what happened it wouldn't be feeding Lewis to the gator by telling the truth of the situation... If Louis is man enough to tell them the truth he would be like Yes, I shot the man with the bow and arrow because he was raping my friend at gunpoint...So it wouldn't be wrong of Drew to say that if that's the truth... And Louis shouldn't have any hard feelings against him for telling the story as it truly happened...
But I would side with what Louis did in this situation if I was in it... I just would acknowledge that Drew has a fair point... It's all good... Great movie!....lol
Best performances from all of these actors if compared to their other roles in subsequent movies IMHO.
This movie resonates to this day because it is an event that could happen to anyone. It becomes a morality play. What would you do!!
I live in the county where this movie was made. It is based on an excellent book by James Dickey. He was a lit professor at USC ( South Carolina). This is probably Burt Reynolds best performance.
Lewis is right. The other fellow is thinking that the right thing to do is report it to police as self defense. Ridiculous. Those 4 would have been convicted and hung likely by a jury in that district. Outsiders coming in and killing one of us is how a lot of the jury would have viewed it. They did the right thing killing both mountain men. Reynolds actually saved them all from years of misery being inarcerated fighting with lawyers in that district. No Lewis. They are all fucked.
Right. That is, if they weren't killed by a mob before the case even went to trial.
@@randomguy6117 It is sad that their friend died, but they would have had terrible lives if they hadnt listened to Lewis. I think, battling the charges of murder. etc., locked up, yeah probably beaten up and tormented.
I think they would never get out. Some local prosecutor would max out the charges. Court would rule on it in favor of the prosecutor. Max charges. Jury would convict them on all charges. Likely, hung to death.
No Lewis, Voight and Beatty are killed, I think. He came in the nick of time and saved them both. In another 15 minutes or so, those mountain men would have been done doing their best humiliating Voight and Beatty, then killed them both. IMO.
0:47 Cue epic Judge Dredd entrance: *_"I AM THE LAW."_*
Simple. Bury him. Party on.
“I don’t want this gettin around”. Unfortunately for Ned it not only got around but stayed around the rest of his life. Rip
No. Ned Beatty gave an even better performance in "Network". Remember his one on one speech to Peter Finch about how the corporate world really works? You'd never have know it was the same guy. I believe he will be better know for that one scene. Beatty was a great character actor.
But this was the first movie role for both Ned and Ronny Cox, both of whom went on to have great film careers. Without this role, we might never know who he was.
What a performance from Burt Reynolds in particular.
Brilliant move. Writing, directing, casting, acting, cinematography. When discussing movies and this one comes up, it bothers me that some people want to focus on one scene. This is a dramatic thriller masterpiece from start to finish. Burt Reynolds finest performance a few years before he became somewhat of a buffoon.
And so will you !! Louis knew everyone else would side with him which is why he said, "We'll take a vote..."
yess
so..? 'democracy'...
How can we tell the sheriff after what they did to Bobby??
It was survival of the fittest in the forest AND in that town's court of law.
Lewis knew the score.
Burt reynolds sounds like a preacher at the beginning. Lol.
I know 3 Lewis’s in movies and by far this Lewis has the most fucked up journey to deal with (the other 2 being the boy in the wb king and I cartoon and the other in meet the robinsons), but between those 3 Lewis’s, this one has got to be the best Lewis.
Chubby Boy has now outlived Healthy Buck Burt and the other 2 are the same age as Burt when he died.
Now Ned and Burt are reunited.
Lord of the Flies. Human nature.
Good movie
Burt made some good movies but he made three great movies with great performances even if he wasn't the star of some of the films. This film, Boogie Nights and the Longest Yard. I wonder how
many great films he could of made if he made better choices.
it is a matter of THE LAW!!
I'm talkin about da LAW!!!!!!
a 3rd guy got into the truck with the Griner brothers at the beginning. We never see his face, the camera zooms in the hands holding a rifle or shotgun
The acting!!
Agreed. C'mon Ed.
Burt looked just like the sort of man youd want to be in this situation .....had sum thick set arms on him like christ he was pumped fr this picture
"Doug died." Gregory Paul Richardson
the man who portrayed the sheriff in this film was the man who wrote the book and he claimed everything reenacted in the movie actually happened........
This film is awfully graphic for 1972. I first seen this film nearly 40 years ago when VHS rentals first became popular... and it was haunting. These men all gave superb performances. Does anyone know if this is the first film to address male on male rape? This type of crime is largely ignored, even today.
This movie is like a lifelong friend, if you saw this movie in your 20's and are now in your 50's the interpretation and meaning may have shifted. To dismiss this a southern movie where a guy gets raped is a mistake. I have always wondered what if one of the Atlanta businessmen had been black, or Hispanic?
If they were brown it wouldve been so much worse. Gotta keep your head on a swivel in white mans land
What would they have done if Ed had sided with Drew? They would've been deadlocked, two against two.
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Drew was not weak.
The character of Drew was written to act as a foil to Lewis. I believe that Drew represents morality. Drew is the guy who does the right thing. What Drew was advocating for was actually the correct decision to make and he certainly was not weak standing up to an alpha male like Lewis. The characters of Drew and Lewis provide the conflict between the characters in the group. Without the character of Drew, the story arc would have been completely different.
Most people would have just avoided conflict against a man like Lewis. But Drew took a stand against Lewis. That's not weak. That takes courage.
Lewis represents independence, fierceness, pragmaticism over morality. And in Lewis the audience finds its hero.
Lewis knew that he would probably win that vote. Bobby was in shock, he had just been raped and all he wanted to do was get the hell home and to live down the humiliation of being raped by another man. Note how Bobby initially is rather assured when stares right into the camera and he unflinchingly says, "let's bury him" but then his confidence quickly runs away from his face and he turns away and his eyes drop and he meekly says, "I don't want this getting around. (pause) Ok?" And then he repeats the word, "ok, but this time it's barely a squeak and it's a question, not a statement. (Brilliant acting by Ned Beatty by the way.)
And then the vote turns to Ed. Now Lewis was smart when he asked Bobby to vote before Ed. Lewis knew Bobby would vote to bury the rapist. (And I would too.) That instantly tips the scales in Lewis' favour. And now the pressure was on Ed. It's 2 to 1 and so it's much closer to going Lewis' way but it's not a given. Ed is clearly conflicted, he's heard both arguments and truth be told, he probably wanted to side with Drew, but Lewis was like an immovable object and Ed simply succumbed to the shear force of will of Lewis and he (Ed) got fell in line. Ed represents the every man. Ed is you, Ed is me. Ed would have had a real hard time firing that arrow into the rapist, unlike Lewis who just took aim and loosed the arrow.
Without Drew, the story would not have been the same. It's kind of ironic that both Drew and Lewis, opposite sides of the same coin, ended up dying when they really were both removed from what went down between the mountain men and Bobby and Ed. They paid the price.
Brilliant acting by all four men in a most remarkable movie.
Lewis survived ? ...though badly injured and it was Ed who had to take on the "hero saviour" role and Bobby was the only other man standing (so to speak) .
Yes. As Ed later says of Drew, "He was the best of us." I would argue that the specific circumstances of their situation precluded the best (i.e., most civilized) aspects of themselves from being followed. The movie brilliantly examines whether the right course of action changes once the protections of civilization are removed. I find Lewis persuasive in arguing that the normal procedures and protections of civilization were no longer present for them.
wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
In true reality, quite frankly they really didn't have a choice, if they had not buried him, they probably would not have made it out. Like Lewis said in the other scene, the law was most likely this guy's brother, cousin, uncle. Wouldn't trust that one, cut your loses and go, cost of doing business, and the hillbilly lost-- (and find Bobby some Tucks for that sore keister).
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"Doug"
Brother where Art Thou?
drew painted into a corner there was no escaping moment he said he believes in democracy,lewis was basically right
this is the best scene int he movie.....its the liberal, drew, versus the conservative, Lewis........and Ed is in the middle, trying to do the right thing.....
It isn't political at all.
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first dave ramsey rant
Imagine the guilt and shame Bobby, Lewis and Ed lived with. Calling the authorities was the only path that would have saved Drew's life. Whether Drew was shot or ended his life in despair is irrelevant because once the decision was made to bury the body, his fate was sealed regardless.
Drew was weak and it’s the only place the weak belong in
@@ianfortuna9385 Or the only person strong enough to be willing to face the consequences and not lie and hide. Mightve made for an interesting episode of forensic files.
Arthur Rogers RIP
Bobby just standing there with his butt hurting!
Burt Reynolds/Marlon Brando.
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do you kiddies even realize how much tang Burt got? i dont think you do.
Debbie Mahlert RiP
Don't know why everyone is slamming drew? If they ever get caught they would be found guilty immediately. He's scared anyone would and even all you tough keyboard warriors to.
Drew sure as hell is no coward or weakling he’s just considering the possible consequences for the choice they are now forced to make. Once you pull the trigger on that decision there’s no going back. I do think I probably would have went with the decision that Lewis proposed. In the moment they were in there was no way of knowing with any certainty how the legal process would play out. Extremely tough decision.
Yeah, no reason to slam Drew. Under normal circumstances his position would be the correct one, and even here there's a strong case for it. The thing that tips the balance in my eyes, and presumably in Ed's, is that there was precious little chance of their returning to their normal lives if the case was tried. Their best chance by far at that point was to bury the body, even though the risks of that course were enormous. Plus there's the fact that the cost to Bobby of having to tell the full story publicly would have destroyed his chance of resuming a normal life no matter how the trial came out. They did what they had to do in that circumstance, even though in virtually any other it would have been the wrong choice.