3 Flugelhorn Showdown! ACB Doubler's vs Manchester Brass vs Adams Sonic! Which is the Best?
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- [Links in description] What's the best value flugelhorn in our shop? Of course we're known for our super popular ACB Doubler's flugelhorn, but we have some other fantastic options as well. Here's a quick comparison between our Doubler's, the Manchester Brass flugelhorn, and the Adams Sonic flugel. Each one fits its own particular niche!
Let us know your thoughts and opinions in the comments!
0:43 Overview
4:45 Comparison on "Tenderly"
7:30 Comparison on Charlier No. 2
10:13 Bell material comparison
11:17 Comparison on 2-chorus blues improv
Which flugel is your favorite?
Here are the links to the horns in the video
ACB Doubler's Flugelhorn: www.austincust...
Manchester Brass Pro Flugelhorn: www.austincust...
Adams Sonic Flugelhorn: www.austincust...
ACB Fab 5 Flugel Mouthpiece: www.austincust...
I'll be totally honest, the Manchester and the Sonic are better flugels. Our Doubler's flugelhorn is designed to be the best flugelhorn at its price point, but there are some aspects where you just have to pay more to get a higher quality. If you're looking for the best budget-friendly flugel on the market, in my opinion the Doubler's is an incredible value. You won't find another horn at the price point with this amount of quality control, tweaks, and upgrades. But if you have the extra room in your budget, that does open up some additional choices.
This video will help you decide which model will be the best flugelhorn for your particular needs, and of course you can always call us with questions at 816-410-0826
The Manchester is built at the CarolBrass factory, a high quality factory in Taiwan. We do some proprietary tweaks to these horns like we do with our Doubler's flugels. The price is between the Doubler's and the Sonic, as is the quality. The case is also a little more robust, it's a large hard case with a full front pocket for music and accessories and a nice plush interior.
The Sonic is handmade at the Adams factory, so it's another jump up in quality. They do use a raw CarolBrass valve block which they then hone and fit at very precise tolerances. The CarolBrass blocks are a highly respected component in the industry, used by many custom trumpet builders [for their Custom Series, Adams uses their in-house-made Bauerfeind valves]. The Sonic comes with the Adams Gard flugelhorn bag. I use Gard bags pretty exclusively, I love the protective designs, and Gard Bags is one of my favorite companies.
The mouthpiece used in this demo is our ACB Fab 5. This is a great introductory flugelhorn mouthpiece with a medium depth and comfortable rim.
Audio is completely raw and unedited. The acoustic is pretty dry here in the testing room at the shop, so you're hearing a pretty accurate representation of what the horns sound like. Of course they will sound even better with reverb or in a larger room!
In terms of the bell materials, the ACB Doubler's has the highest copper content but it's not full copper. The Manchester and the Adams Sonic are both gold brass although each has a proprietary alloy.
Of course we have tons of other great flugelhorns available as well:
www.austincust...
Austin Custom Brass is one of the world's premier brass pro shops. We routinely have hundreds of instruments in stock. If you are looking for something in particular please let us know via email at info@austincustombrass.com or call 781-944-6247 today!
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An update on our Doublers! They are on their way from Asia (finally after a LONG battle with the shipping company who wanted to charge us $18,000+ for our container)! We'll have stock within a month! The other flugels are readily available! Thanks again for your support everyone!
Yeah, that sounds like someone screwed up and added a zero.
For the money, Manchester hands down. Excellent offerings for all three. Thanks, Austin.
You're welcome Olson
I love these horns. For me I upgraded from the doubler to the Manchester. It seems to give me a darker more mellow sound in my church where I play my flugelhorn way more than my trumpet. The trumpet in church seems to have too much of a tinniness to the sound.
Your flugelhorn demo was just awesome .
Of all 3 i think the doublers has yhe sound i like or expect from a flugelhorn.
Thanks for a great demo
wow, for me the Manchester was hands down the best sound...
For these comparison videos, I think it'd be great to get your thoughts on the playability of each horn. How would you describe the difference in response, intonation, ease of slotting/flexibility. Sure we can hear a lot coming from the mic, but I think there is a lot of things about each horn that doesn't come through :P
I've been thinking about getting a flugelhorn so this video really helped! Thanks!
Wow! That's quite a review! If I may share some thoughts on what I've heard, I would say that all of the horns are quite good and consistent to their price. However on most of the examples I liked Manchester a little bit more. I believe, ACB Doubler has a bit thinner sound compared to other horns. Manchester seemed to be quite even throughout the whole range in terms of sound and intonation. Adams Sonic has much richer sound in the middle and lower register, than others, at least I noticed that in all of the examples, except the last improvisation. In the last example Sonic really beats the others, the whole range sounds much richer and intonation is great. And the whole feel of that horn says: "I'm good for jazz". Thank you so much for your videos, it really helps to figure out what some good instruments should sound like!
I wonder, if you have a video or some tips how to choose a decent flugelhorn? Unfortunately these precious example are not available in my region. Most of the market is some cheap chinese horns or the older used ones from Europe or USA.
Thanks for this demo, Trent. I do like the sound of the Adams Sonic and the ease of the upper register, but I don't believe that I would be doing much in that register with a British Brass Band. I may be a little bias towards the Manchester Brass, since I just bought one, but my feeling is the darker sound and fullness came from the Manchester Brass. I have to agree with "Big E". He too puts the Manchester on top. I will say this, the Adams does have the better sound overall in all registers, but not unlike my Kanstul 1525 Signature. You really want to have a full flugelhorn sound, put that "Papa Bear" flugel mpc with the "FD" cup and throat, and watch out. That is a flugelhorn sound.
I due to budget just ordered a Doubler’s with a 1.25 CS FD to go with my Doubler’s LB Cornet with 1.25 CS A Short Shank MP… Still liked the Manchester except the last lick where I think the Adams is particularly more familiar to Trent and thus showed best… but in the end the Doubler’s for the price won out for me… For those with the Manchester…. Enjoy them…
I like the tone of the ADAMS.
They all sound great to me, but honestly it must be my tin ear since listening without looking I cannot tell a lot of difference between the three. But, it does look like the Doubler is a bit harder work to play.
Actually I like the sound of the ACB doubler.
I second that.
Those flügelhorns sound beautiful.
I absolutely loved all three of these horns. However, my favorite is the Manchester. Not much difference in sound for the price difference between the Adam’s and the Manchester.
Adams wins me✌️
I'd be interested in hearing an Adams Sonic/ XO flugel showdown.
No XO in stock at the moment but both horns are in that same ballpark!
@@austincustom Yeah, Trent, I actually went looking for that XO flugelhorn that you had up on your website for quite some time. Darn it - somebody snagged it and it was offered at a very fair price, too.
They sound the same to me. I'd go for the doubler, in that case.
To me the ACB sounds stuffy and restrictive but the sound is still very good. Manchester seems fat and full… Adams is nice maybe a little tighter. All in all pretty similar sound envelope intended… I think I like the Manchester….. color me surprised!
The Adams sounds easier for you to play. Of course, everything here has to be better than the 15 yr old student model Jupiter that I'm still playing on!
Any way we could ever get an Eb alto flugelhorn or trumpet in the Doubler line?
Nope
Does the doubler case come with the backpack straps
yes
@@austincustom k thanks
Do you have a Vidio that outlines the tweaks that are done to the horns?
Nope.
A magician doesn't reveal their secrets.
Do you have any plans to sell the ACB doubler in europe ?
We ship worldwide! Please email us at info@austincustombrass.com to discuss some options for you!
What is the bore of each of the three?
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Adams - more sweet, more frenchhornish
Manch - like a mellow trumpet (bad or good u tell me)
Doubler - fluffy, more like the couesnons.
Adams had FAR better intonation on charlier 2.
It's hard to define how they sound.
I think the doubler and adams have a darker sound (yet different).