his lil cute turn the other way and hit the man in the dunker spot pass neva moved me. plamaking in transition aint even hard. russell westbrook did it, and he's a mindless point guard
It's crazy because he was bad from 3 when he was in Indy and he was gonna need a new contract so it made sense to trade him at the time considering the development of the young talent and depth, but now this is happening, and hield is on fire with the warriors 🤦♂️
Weirdly his post-all star stats almost exactly halfway between start of last season on start of this one. From 21 ppg on 62.5 True Shooting to 17 on 56.5 to 15 on (a truly ghastly) 50. He's better than this for sure, but probably not as good as he was last November.
As a pacers fan, it is really concerning... after reaggravating his injury last season and rushing back while clearly not healthy yet to clear the 65 game mark, he lost all his confidence. He has looked broken mentally in most games. His game was all about drive and kick or score depending on how defenses reacted, and now he seems to just roam around the perimeter waiting for something to happen, and deferring to others without really creating anything. I hope it is an injury and, if so, that the pacers just rest/fix him... but I dont know at this point, mentally he is not there
He's probably going through the same thing that Darius Garland went through last season where he was hurt and having personal problems which deeply impacted his game. Tyrese might come back to his old self next season
No its not. Paying 40 year old/injury prone PG a max contract, extending a 30 year old no knees embiid, and signing washed up old players is going exactly how you would expect it to.
His ego, like 99 percent of the league..was due to undeserved media hype. He is not that good. That ugly jump shot says NO SKILL, yet this is the ‘most-skilled era’ ever, right? What we REALLY are seeing is how trash this era is as every team is falling off because the players have come down to earth. Giannis can no longer travel, carry and bulldoze people on his way to the hole. Lillard is being shown to not be a top 75 caliber player, which he NEVER was. Embiid is a complete disaster. Paul George has always been EXTREMELY overrated and very inconsistent. Jokic cannot really carry a team like Bron did with the Cavs. Bron is old and ruining the Lakers for stats and Bronny nonsense. Luka is a one-dimensional absolute LIABILITY on defense. He is almost unplayable when it comes to crunch time because he will get EASILY blown by. Edwards just dribbles around for ten minutes trying to find a screen to free him..and jacks up 3’s like he is Curry..but he is not. He has a low-motor and disappears for long stretches. Tatum is the only 6’10” dude I have seen brick LAYUPS on the regular, and Brown can barely dribble. The league is ALL hype..no substance. NONE of these dudes in this era are as good as advertised..or the ratings would not be in the dumpster. Fans can tell truth from fiction.
It was Nesmith, Nembhard who really took the Pacers to the ECF last season. He was out critical weeks when they consolidated status, They have been out since they went on their slide.
Just like ben, he needs to be aggressive as a scorer rather than pinning his skill on this “best passer” stuff. The real question is whether he can actually do that.
He got the pity All NBA 3rd team vote because he’s media friendly. In reality, he’s a good starting point guard who got hot for two months and then settled back into fringe All Star status. That’s it.
totally. all nba teams are decided by your regular season play, like the other awards. indiana making a deep run and the fact that he was gonna lose like 40 mil if he didn;t make it was why. no voter wanted to be like jalen rose snubbing jason tatum. him making 244 mill is gonna age so so bad, no hate
No he deserved the All NBA third team spot lmao. He did not get hot for 2 months lol. He played like that ALL of the 2022 season also. The media just didn’t talk about him as much then. Haliburton was on a steady ascent in his career up until the 2023 trade deadline. Look at the stats. He did not get “hot” for 2 months. He was an All Star in 2022. And was playing like that + some to start 2023. Then it was mostly downhill after the trade deadline until now. But no, he wasn’t a 2 month Flash in the pan. That’s just the only time you payed attention to him.
@@UnapologeticRed before you respond to me, learn how to properly use quotation marks lmao. Quotation marks usually mean the opposite. This is not a "Choke" by Haliburton, this is a CHOKE by Haliburton.
@UnapologeticRed are you seriously this slow? You're the one who brought up November. I was talking about the word 'Choke'. Stay on topic lol and yes, there is a such thing as choking in the beginning of the season. Tyrese is not playing up to his potential. Not playing the same way that he found success with last year...thus resulting in him letting his team down this year...ergo...it's a CHOKE
He just is honestly not THAT good. His jump shot form is sooo busted, his handles are shaky for a ball-dominant PG, he genuinely cannot drive left, hes not great at finishing in traffic. He relies on getting his points in transition run-outs. Teams are aware of how the Pacers play, and he doesnt have the benefit of Buddy Heild gravity anymore. The Pacers were a one-year wonder who wouldve NEVER got past a healthy Knicks team
I think he just not aggressive at all and he been awful shooting the ball especially on the road. I think they need to tell him he needs to start being aggressive and hunt for his shot more. Because let’s face it without Hali being a scoring threat the Pacers are cooked especially because their defense is terrible
I really think that it’s just because they have no respected shooters. Physically it does look like something’s off, but I really think Hali is a feeling raiser more then a floor raiser. He can be your best guy, but you need to have a very competent shooting team around him so that his play making and scoring can really shine. Like the pacers are hitting their threes but it’s because nobody respects them to actually be drawn out of the paint, which makes Hali way less effective.
Got famous, got hurt, got little slower, people started to actually plan games against him and his problems got exposed. His jump shot takes time to load and he can't just step back and shoot. He hardly ever goes left, and his team can't shoot and by default there is more focus on him as others provide less gravity (and that closes driving lines) .
Needs to take a page out of Shai’s book. Both have similar builds and unorthodox handles. Needs to just be more patient and crafty with his in between game. It’ll open up the threes and layups
He's definitely been injured. You can see him on the sidelines wearing some thing on his back every single time he's not on the court. There's a pretty noticeable picture of him grimacing like he's in a ton of pain wearing it from earlier in the season. One of the best people who cover the Pacers, Caitlin Cooper of Basketball She Wrote, has been commenting on how he doesn't have any flexibility or mobility and she's pretty much the best at noticing things like tendencies and how players move. She recently said he looks like he's moving like an old man out there, I think.
No Bruce Brown, point of attack defense. Transition, speed slashing.. They have away their only defender for a slow player at PF that is everything their Offense "was" not built around. Didn't value the most consistent 3pt shooter in the league. Who was also an underrated passer and set ghost screens a lot. Threw away Jalen Smith, a top 10 pick who played great basketball. Nwora who was a constant bucket... Had they focused on fixing what they needed. An elite SF, or any 3&D wing at all. Kept all 3 1sts.. Signed Hartenstein, traded Nembhard for Caruso and a Bulls 1st.. idc if they added OG, KCP, Naji Marshall, D.J. Jr., Oubre.. whoever... drafted Missi, Terrance Shannon or Tyler Kolek. Jaylen Wells with their late pick. They'd still be playing high pace, 5 out and be the best team in the East.. But the fkd up their whole team, chemistry, style and vibes to max out an old Pascal sukam.. idc what his numbers look like. He's what ruined this team. They never played the same again since the trade.. His stats don't lead to wins and he's sure as hell not a leader. Or a go to guy, or elite defender. So why the hell pay him 48million dollars to not be a great Offensive player, or that good on D... if you're going to blow up the best #1 Offense the league has ever seen.. you sure as hell better know what you're getting in return and that you aren't giving away key heart pieces of the team.. Heild was more than a team too. He was Halis best friend here.. Pacers ignorant panic management is why they're playing sht basketball.. and in all honesty. I think Haliburton's not feeling the new team and his heart is simply not in it.. If you watched them in the playoffs. They had to fight so hard, swinging the ball all around like crazy to find any kind of movement. It felt soo forced. Because what they were once before if simply not there now. Hali hasn't been getting cuts into the lane at all for no look passes which he did constantly before and that was largely in part to all those guy's I just named and maintaining pace 3's with defense in Brown who played all 5 positions. I was furiously pissed at the very moment I heard they traded for Pascal. Still am.. because I know what they could have done.. just as they could have added any wings and Cs the past 4 years and haven't done it ever. Instead they draft the same bs players every draft.. all they draft are point guards.. undersized bigs who have 0 talent.. let prototype SF's and bigs, other guy's with tons of actual basketball skills and fundamentals slide right past them.. or select some ignorant azz tj leaf alike player again this year.. They have no idea how to draft, or select players in FA, or trades.. So they will always be doomed and will never win a championship. Small markets need to know when, who to select and what pieces are important. Make the most of small trades.. they obviously can't do that.
Nah, he’s just not a combo guard we all thought he was pre all star last season. He can pass and playmake IF you have the space solved for him, because his offense skills is not enough to pressure the defense in any meaningful way. And once he’s shootings gone, he’s cooked. In other words, he has ok ceiling but lower floor.
People act like tyrese had crazy moves and aggression that was never the case. He literaly has no bag, and no defense so when he struggles, it shows A LOT. He had an insane year last year because benedict wasn't there and he had more to do in the backcourt and he had nice shooting percentage. Like he is a good shooter and a good passer, but that is about it. Tyrese has literaly one move the cradling and sliding around the perimeter and pulling up aside his defender... he was never able to get by defenders easily which is puzzling to me for a guard in the NBA. Combine that with no defense + an insane shooting slump and there you have it lmao.
i'm a casual, and when i saw the early season hype last year and watched some highlights and some interviews. i was excited by the passes and liked that he didn't seem shy in interviews. the playoffs came, i watched one game in the clutch vs the knicks or bucks i dont remember but turned to my friend and said this guy aint it. he turned the ball over three times in the 4th and couldn't score to save his life. but the biggest thing was as the franchise POINT he ran away from the ball. i swear watch the shit back he parked his ass in the corner i remember pointing at the screen and laughing. my first live impression of him was him scared of the ball.
Well that’s because you don’t watch any of his games lol. You cherry pick bad moments that you just happened to catch live. He also hit a game winner in the playoffs. He also had good games in the playoffs. I do watch his games, and he has been clutch way more often then he has not been clutch. Even this season he has a high efficiency on clutch shots.
@ forgive a bit of hyperbole, but imagine watching LeBron lose a game to the up and coming Paul George Pacers and writing him off. You watched one game and developed an entire narrative in your head This is just clickbait for social media. Stop trying to force a hot take
He's injured. And has been since the season started. He wore a back brace in the Hornets game. He can barely get up from a layup sometimes. Which tells me that it is an issue that could have him out of the season if he gets it fixed. Which he needs to.
Yeah it's weird. He and Lamelo are like the same player. Long, strange dribbling method, strange jumper, highly skilled. Last year Halliburton was on fire and lamelo had an off year, This year lamelo is on fire and Halliburton is having an off year.
Once you understand that the 2024 Pacers are just an updated version of the 2021 Hawks, it's not that weird. Guy peaked in the in-season tournament and will never get back to that level. Only thing that makes this weird is the amount of people that really wantt the Pacers to not be the 2021 Hawks.
I don't think that back injury is something you can hope improves during a season. That's the thing with back problems sometimes, you can be healthy enough to play but obviously you aren't at your best.
A guy who can only play at one speed when zero defense is played by either team, struggling when Hield’s gone and the game slows down…big f*cking surprises 😂
As a pacer fan I mean no disrespect but we got several lucky breaks to get us to the conference finals and Halliburton was getting inconsistent end of last season anyway so this isn’t surprising. They will be lucky to make the playoffs this year with how little they’ve improved their defense and relying on inconsistent offense. Look to Mathurin and jarace walker to get more freedom to score if Hali can’t hack it
None of the Pacers are true first options.Thats why they rely so heavily on playing fast and bombing threes.When that isn’t working they have nobody can consistently break down defenses.
To tell you how it's so difficult to survive in nba guys lik kd, Westbrook, LeBron,curry, giannis,jokic,doncic leading their teams for more than 4 years it is not easy like playing playstation
Me personally, I don’t mind if he sucks. He took Kyrie’s spot at the Olympics and honestly seemed a bit full of himself. He never was a superstar even if everyone wanted to think so
People thinking it's Buddy Hield is hilarious 😂 just because he's finally been in the spotlight and doing well (as he should) does not mean he's the reason Haliburton is not cooking anymore
Carlisle isnt the type of coach hes not gonna risk a YOUNG PLAYERS career in the beg of a season just for a maybe dub. Hes going to eo it by the book. I dont think hes injured.. hes not agreesive AT ALL . And tbh he needs to learn to attack and be aggressive. Its like hes afraid of contact. Im still a fan. I hope he can put on more muscle that way he wont snap like the twig he is. Imagine if he had TJs fearlessness.. but everyone is talking like we are halfway through the fkn season lol😂.
WHY do these guys think its a good idea to play in the Olympics if they aren't 100% healthy? He had nagging injuries last year compounded by a deep playoff run. You're 24 bro, catch that Olympic bus the next go-around!
HES OVERRATED!!!!! he played good for a few months last season and everyone GLAZED HIM for it. he's extremely mid and I'm glad everyone is seeing the player he is. still cant believe buddy made the Olympic team and put him on that starting 5 show. the ultimate glaze for a mid player.
lakers look pretty good
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Snow bunnies stole his powers
Remember that episode of Avatar when Zhao kill's the water spirit (the white fish) and all the water benders lose their bending? Like that lol
Bruh
Obama did since the interview
The snow man
Ayo
1. He can't go left (like at all)
2. He doesn't have Buddy Hield's ghost screen action that clears the floor for him.
This. Just look at Buddy’s impact at GS right now
his lil cute turn the other way and hit the man in the dunker spot pass neva moved me. plamaking in transition aint even hard. russell westbrook did it, and he's a mindless point guard
He's also a ghost on defense. Offers no resistance, everyone gets buckets on him
@@iainthadbreakfast624he was so much more than that lmao. He was the number 1 best facilitator in the league last season. Idk what’s up with him now.
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Buddy Hield gravity was kinda serious man
Really do think this is true
They did fine without him in the playoffs, Doug McDermott was doing the same job
@@desmondyatlin4265Doug didn’t play like at all during the playoffs for us lmao I think he maybe got 5 minutes.
It's crazy because he was bad from 3 when he was in Indy and he was gonna need a new contract so it made sense to trade him at the time considering the development of the young talent and depth, but now this is happening, and hield is on fire with the warriors 🤦♂️
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Ever since he held up that prime on the podium last season shit been downhill
Damn him too? Good I’m glad he’s struggling lmaoo
If you trace this back to how his impact cratered after Buddy was traded last season, I think this tracks pretty clearly into how he's performing now.
Weirdly his post-all star stats almost exactly halfway between start of last season on start of this one. From 21 ppg on 62.5 True Shooting to 17 on 56.5 to 15 on (a truly ghastly) 50. He's better than this for sure, but probably not as good as he was last November.
He’s been solved. This isn’t an injury anymore, he’s not at all aggressive enough as a scorer. And if he’s not 40%3pt he’s just not a threat
On defense, it's significantly worse. He doesn't even compete
This is a good point. It’s almost their franchise player is Mathurin and it’s right under their nose
He’s driving like 40 year old nash, idk how it cant not be injury related, dude hasnt gotten low on a single drive like he cant bend his hips
@RonquixoteDIII he needs to put pressure on the rim, it feels like often times he's scared to get to the paint
He was a scorer in Sac. It's like his offensive game just disappeared and became an assist merchant
As a pacers fan, it is really concerning... after reaggravating his injury last season and rushing back while clearly not healthy yet to clear the 65 game mark, he lost all his confidence. He has looked broken mentally in most games. His game was all about drive and kick or score depending on how defenses reacted, and now he seems to just roam around the perimeter waiting for something to happen, and deferring to others without really creating anything. I hope it is an injury and, if so, that the pacers just rest/fix him... but I dont know at this point, mentally he is not there
He's probably going through the same thing that Darius Garland went through last season where he was hurt and having personal problems which deeply impacted his game. Tyrese might come back to his old self next season
Agreed 100 percent it was returning too fast from a really serious injury
I dont understand why he dont go to the weight room, he is way to skinny
Disagree with the title, the Sixers are the weirdest story 😂
id expect joel embiid to act just like he is before i could expect haliburton to fall off this hard
I always expect drama and injuries with Embiid and injuries with PG. The Maxey injury and fallout were a surprise.
Not weird at all. It was inevitable that they’d find themselves being the leagues clown show at some point this year.
No its not. Paying 40 year old/injury prone PG a max contract, extending a 30 year old no knees embiid, and signing washed up old players is going exactly how you would expect it to.
Don’t blame Siakam.. Haliburton couldn’t have a more reliable forward
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Bros ego finally caught up to him
His ego, like 99 percent of the league..was due to undeserved media hype. He is not that good. That ugly jump shot says NO SKILL, yet this is the ‘most-skilled era’ ever, right? What we REALLY are seeing is how trash this era is as every team is falling off because the players have come down to earth. Giannis can no longer travel, carry and bulldoze people on his way to the hole. Lillard is being shown to not be a top 75 caliber player, which he NEVER was. Embiid is a complete disaster. Paul George has always been EXTREMELY overrated and very inconsistent. Jokic cannot really carry a team like Bron did with the Cavs. Bron is old and ruining the Lakers for stats and Bronny nonsense. Luka is a one-dimensional absolute LIABILITY on defense. He is almost unplayable when it comes to crunch time because he will get EASILY blown by. Edwards just dribbles around for ten minutes trying to find a screen to free him..and jacks up 3’s like he is Curry..but he is not. He has a low-motor and disappears for long stretches. Tatum is the only 6’10” dude I have seen brick LAYUPS on the regular, and Brown can barely dribble. The league is ALL hype..no substance. NONE of these dudes in this era are as good as advertised..or the ratings would not be in the dumpster. Fans can tell truth from fiction.
He is 1000% injured. He aches and winces on the court often. Pacers broadcast team is always cutting away quickly when he does it live.
Naw he not injured he talked all that shit last year now oh im injured foh he suck simple
Then he shouldn't be playing. He needs to tell the staff he's injured, rest and get healthy.
Totally forgot that this man is an Olympic Gold Medalist
Should’ve been Brunson
He was the cheerleader
Got exposed it’s simple as that
It was Nesmith, Nembhard who really took the Pacers to the ECF last season. He was out critical weeks when they consolidated status, They have been out since they went on their slide.
Somebody in that organization needs to tell bro that he aint on Team USA anymore..Pacers ACTUALLY need his production this time 😅
Not all bad they raised a “banner” this year 😂
He is not healthy just let him rest I don’t want him to become another Ben Simmons
Just like ben, he needs to be aggressive as a scorer rather than pinning his skill on this “best passer” stuff. The real question is whether he can actually do that.
unlike Ben it actually seems like he wants to ball, he’s just been really down lately
@@kennethxu1789he was an aggressive scorer in Sac to the point people actually wanted him over fox. Sth is def wrong
He got the pity All NBA 3rd team vote because he’s media friendly. In reality, he’s a good starting point guard who got hot for two months and then settled back into fringe All Star status. That’s it.
totally. all nba teams are decided by your regular season play, like the other awards. indiana making a deep run and the fact that he was gonna lose like 40 mil if he didn;t make it was why. no voter wanted to be like jalen rose snubbing jason tatum. him making 244 mill is gonna age so so bad, no hate
Agreed
No he deserved the All NBA third team spot lmao. He did not get hot for 2 months lol. He played like that ALL of the 2022 season also. The media just didn’t talk about him as much then. Haliburton was on a steady ascent in his career up until the 2023 trade deadline. Look at the stats. He did not get “hot” for 2 months. He was an All Star in 2022. And was playing like that + some to start 2023. Then it was mostly downhill after the trade deadline until now. But no, he wasn’t a 2 month Flash in the pan. That’s just the only time you payed attention to him.
Shows that you only watch highlights, Hali was amazing for the whole season.
Bro who has it easier than the Celtics in the easter conference, just a fkn red carpet to the finals every year 😭🔫
Beat a Knicks squad with about three healthy players and forgot how to act
That part. He wore the choke Hoodie, but he's choking now lol
@@SBzKillFrenzyrather “choke” in November, especially in the East
@@UnapologeticRed before you respond to me, learn how to properly use quotation marks lmao. Quotation marks usually mean the opposite. This is not a "Choke" by Haliburton, this is a CHOKE by Haliburton.
@ it is literally November you mouth breather. Aint shit settled in November
@UnapologeticRed are you seriously this slow? You're the one who brought up November. I was talking about the word 'Choke'. Stay on topic lol and yes, there is a such thing as choking in the beginning of the season. Tyrese is not playing up to his potential. Not playing the same way that he found success with last year...thus resulting in him letting his team down this year...ergo...it's a CHOKE
Playing in the snow...
He just is honestly not THAT good. His jump shot form is sooo busted, his handles are shaky for a ball-dominant PG, he genuinely cannot drive left, hes not great at finishing in traffic. He relies on getting his points in transition run-outs. Teams are aware of how the Pacers play, and he doesnt have the benefit of Buddy Heild gravity anymore. The Pacers were a one-year wonder who wouldve NEVER got past a healthy Knicks team
I think he just not aggressive at all and he been awful shooting the ball especially on the road.
I think they need to tell him he needs to start being aggressive and hunt for his shot more. Because let’s face it without Hali being a scoring threat the Pacers are cooked especially because their defense is terrible
go back to the gym, you got the bulls tomorrow
@ I’m a rockets fan bro not a Pacers fan and they play the Bucks tomorrow 😅
I really think that it’s just because they have no respected shooters. Physically it does look like something’s off, but I really think Hali is a feeling raiser more then a floor raiser. He can be your best guy, but you need to have a very competent shooting team around him so that his play making and scoring can really shine. Like the pacers are hitting their threes but it’s because nobody respects them to actually be drawn out of the paint, which makes Hali way less effective.
Got famous, got hurt, got little slower, people started to actually plan games against him and his problems got exposed. His jump shot takes time to load and he can't just step back and shoot.
He hardly ever goes left, and his team can't shoot and by default there is more focus on him as others provide less gravity (and that closes driving lines) .
I think he lacks drive sometimes, but that's just my impression
Yall said he was better then Brunson lmao
the recency bias was so nasty man
Who’s yall?
lol they said he was better than Fox
That’s the craziest part, he still is 😭 Brunson is a smaller version of Melo, idk why Knicks fans defend him
@@shaneyy__ Hali is in no world better than Brunson lmao
and to think there were people out there really trying to convince everyone that he was better than brunson
Or that the kings lost the trade
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Needs to take a page out of Shai’s book. Both have similar builds and unorthodox handles. Needs to just be more patient and crafty with his in between game. It’ll open up the threes and layups
He’s nothing like Shai.
@ I literally just explained what he has in common with Shai
Just because he's the same height/weight as Shai doesn't mean they're anything close to being similar, you dummy. 😂
@ hey! Dummy’s a strong word
Remember that one month people said he was in the MVP conversation? Smh
because he was? 😂
Because he was at that point. Tf?
He's definitely been injured. You can see him on the sidelines wearing some thing on his back every single time he's not on the court. There's a pretty noticeable picture of him grimacing like he's in a ton of pain wearing it from earlier in the season. One of the best people who cover the Pacers, Caitlin Cooper of Basketball She Wrote, has been commenting on how he doesn't have any flexibility or mobility and she's pretty much the best at noticing things like tendencies and how players move. She recently said he looks like he's moving like an old man out there, I think.
Where’s all those people that were shitting on the kings for the sabonis trade?
You and SL on the same wave length
No Bruce Brown, point of attack defense. Transition, speed slashing.. They have away their only defender for a slow player at PF that is everything their Offense "was" not built around. Didn't value the most consistent 3pt shooter in the league. Who was also an underrated passer and set ghost screens a lot. Threw away Jalen Smith, a top 10 pick who played great basketball. Nwora who was a constant bucket... Had they focused on fixing what they needed. An elite SF, or any 3&D wing at all. Kept all 3 1sts.. Signed Hartenstein, traded Nembhard for Caruso and a Bulls 1st.. idc if they added OG, KCP, Naji Marshall, D.J. Jr., Oubre.. whoever... drafted Missi, Terrance Shannon or Tyler Kolek. Jaylen Wells with their late pick. They'd still be playing high pace, 5 out and be the best team in the East.. But the fkd up their whole team, chemistry, style and vibes to max out an old Pascal sukam.. idc what his numbers look like. He's what ruined this team. They never played the same again since the trade.. His stats don't lead to wins and he's sure as hell not a leader. Or a go to guy, or elite defender. So why the hell pay him 48million dollars to not be a great Offensive player, or that good on D... if you're going to blow up the best #1 Offense the league has ever seen.. you sure as hell better know what you're getting in return and that you aren't giving away key heart pieces of the team.. Heild was more than a team too. He was Halis best friend here.. Pacers ignorant panic management is why they're playing sht basketball.. and in all honesty. I think Haliburton's not feeling the new team and his heart is simply not in it.. If you watched them in the playoffs. They had to fight so hard, swinging the ball all around like crazy to find any kind of movement. It felt soo forced. Because what they were once before if simply not there now. Hali hasn't been getting cuts into the lane at all for no look passes which he did constantly before and that was largely in part to all those guy's I just named and maintaining pace 3's with defense in Brown who played all 5 positions. I was furiously pissed at the very moment I heard they traded for Pascal. Still am.. because I know what they could have done.. just as they could have added any wings and Cs the past 4 years and haven't done it ever. Instead they draft the same bs players every draft.. all they draft are point guards.. undersized bigs who have 0 talent.. let prototype SF's and bigs, other guy's with tons of actual basketball skills and fundamentals slide right past them.. or select some ignorant azz tj leaf alike player again this year.. They have no idea how to draft, or select players in FA, or trades.. So they will always be doomed and will never win a championship. Small markets need to know when, who to select and what pieces are important. Make the most of small trades.. they obviously can't do that.
But everyone knows the Kings got fleeced in that trade
Got the bag and lost his drive . A tale as old as time
Nah, he’s just not a combo guard we all thought he was pre all star last season. He can pass and playmake IF you have the space solved for him, because his offense skills is not enough to pressure the defense in any meaningful way. And once he’s shootings gone, he’s cooked.
In other words, he has ok ceiling but lower floor.
Feels a little Jordan Poole like
No Jordan just wasn’t taking it seriously if u actually watch him play his actually really good
Probably. Both of those coincide with them getting a bag and kinda going complacent. At least Poole was an important figure on a title team though
People act like tyrese had crazy moves and aggression that was never the case. He literaly has no bag, and no defense so when he struggles, it shows A LOT. He had an insane year last year because benedict wasn't there and he had more to do in the backcourt and he had nice shooting percentage. Like he is a good shooter and a good passer, but that is about it. Tyrese has literaly one move the cradling and sliding around the perimeter and pulling up aside his defender... he was never able to get by defenders easily which is puzzling to me for a guard in the NBA. Combine that with no defense + an insane shooting slump and there you have it lmao.
He had a fake in season tournament run, and everybody was ready to crown him like a top 10 player way to fast
i'm a casual, and when i saw the early season hype last year and watched some highlights and some interviews. i was excited by the passes and liked that he didn't seem shy in interviews. the playoffs came, i watched one game in the clutch vs the knicks or bucks i dont remember but turned to my friend and said this guy aint it. he turned the ball over three times in the 4th and couldn't score to save his life. but the biggest thing was as the franchise POINT he ran away from the ball. i swear watch the shit back he parked his ass in the corner i remember pointing at the screen and laughing. my first live impression of him was him scared of the ball.
Well that’s because you don’t watch any of his games lol. You cherry pick bad moments that you just happened to catch live. He also hit a game winner in the playoffs. He also had good games in the playoffs. I do watch his games, and he has been clutch way more often then he has not been clutch. Even this season he has a high efficiency on clutch shots.
That’s insane how you watched a Bucks playoff game where he dropped 30 and a gamewinner in OT and said he ain’t it.
@@shaneyy__ he lost the game i watched. it might've been the knicks
@ forgive a bit of hyperbole, but imagine watching LeBron lose a game to the up and coming Paul George Pacers and writing him off. You watched one game and developed an entire narrative in your head
This is just clickbait for social media. Stop trying to force a hot take
He's injured. And has been since the season started.
He wore a back brace in the Hornets game. He can barely get up from a layup sometimes.
Which tells me that it is an issue that could have him out of the season if he gets it fixed. Which he needs to.
IMAGINE having him in fantasy 😑😑😑
Him and Jordan Poole changed powers
He’ll get his groove and confidence back when he’s 100% … Pacers will be alright even if it’s a down year… a tough out in the playoffs I’m sure
Forgot to mention the 0 point game against the Knicks
DROPPED A 30 POINT DOUBLE DOUBLE ON THE KNICKS THIS YEAR AND BOUNCED THEM FROM THE PLAYOFFS LOL STAY SALTY CORNBALL 🤡
Good trade for Kings?
Have the Kings made it to the conference finals since the trade 🤡
Start McConnell until he gets his act together
Yeah it's weird. He and Lamelo are like the same player. Long, strange dribbling method, strange jumper, highly skilled. Last year Halliburton was on fire and lamelo had an off year, This year lamelo is on fire and Halliburton is having an off year.
Its also a different story when you are going to surprise teams anymore and they are game planning against you
The biggest difference from last year is buddy hield not being there anymore
Once you understand that the 2024 Pacers are just an updated version of the 2021 Hawks, it's not that weird. Guy peaked in the in-season tournament and will never get back to that level. Only thing that makes this weird is the amount of people that really wantt the Pacers to not be the 2021 Hawks.
I’m not disagreeing with your premise but he didn’t peak in the play in.
kind of crazy to go from sitting on the bench in the olympics learning from the greats only to not show up
GUY LOOKS STARIGHT UP WASHED rn i feel like he doesnt care about winning at times, to the point that he cant resolve the problems hes having
Y'all just gassed him to much last year.
NBA figured him out
I don't think that back injury is something you can hope improves during a season. That's the thing with back problems sometimes, you can be healthy enough to play but obviously you aren't at your best.
He never looked the same after the Pacers acquired Pascal Siakam.
Kid has no bag. It’s either step back three or driving to kick for the open three. In a seven game series that shit gets old real quick.
He has a 3 month stretch where he was awesome and people crowned him a superstar. I think he’s playing a little worse than where his level truly is:
A guy who can only play at one speed when zero defense is played by either team, struggling when Hield’s gone and the game slows down…big f*cking surprises 😂
As a pacer fan I mean no disrespect but we got several lucky breaks to get us to the conference finals and Halliburton was getting inconsistent end of last season anyway so this isn’t surprising. They will be lucky to make the playoffs this year with how little they’ve improved their defense and relying on inconsistent offense. Look to Mathurin and jarace walker to get more freedom to score if Hali can’t hack it
WOOO SPICY P love when funky shout-outs former raptors
Safe to say they won't be in the play in final like last season.
He’s a second option masquerading as a first. He’s not a capable self creator the way the top 7-8 guys are
None of the Pacers are true first options.Thats why they rely so heavily on playing fast and bombing threes.When that isn’t working they have nobody can consistently break down defenses.
he's also a cone without the ball in his hands, so he's someone you run the offence through but not for imo
To tell you how it's so difficult to survive in nba guys lik kd, Westbrook, LeBron,curry, giannis,jokic,doncic leading their teams for more than 4 years it is not easy like playing playstation
He was my first pick in fantasy because he did so well last year 😢
Dr Umar warned us
Bruh
😂😂😂
He half white though
Me personally, I don’t mind if he sucks. He took Kyrie’s spot at the Olympics and honestly seemed a bit full of himself. He never was a superstar even if everyone wanted to think so
nembhard was better than him when given a chance in that celtics series imo
Trey Young ahh situation
If they lost their pace why are they still called the “Pacers”
As a knicks fan I’m enjoying the down fall of both pacers and 76ers
To echo a lot of comments, I was thinking last night we never should have traded Heild.
A 5 and a half minute video of just a picture of Tyrese is craaaaaaazzzzzyyyy work
his vids have always been like this
And they say they should traded fox and halli lol
Lucky run deep in the Playoffs led to a young team getting complacent and backsliding? Tale as old as time baby.
People thinking it's Buddy Hield is hilarious 😂 just because he's finally been in the spotlight and doing well (as he should) does not mean he's the reason Haliburton is not cooking anymore
Bro too focused on the Starbucks line.
He’s gonna drop 35/10 on the bucks tomorrow because why not?
I beg your pardon ? 😂 Giannis dropped that stat on them bums
he should work on his shot mechanics already
Tyreese is the Jason Kidd of Steve Blakes
Carlisle isnt the type of coach hes not gonna risk a YOUNG PLAYERS career in the beg of a season just for a maybe dub. Hes going to eo it by the book. I dont think hes injured.. hes not agreesive AT ALL . And tbh he needs to learn to attack and be aggressive. Its like hes afraid of contact. Im still a fan. I hope he can put on more muscle that way he wont snap like the twig he is. Imagine if he had TJs fearlessness.. but everyone is talking like we are halfway through the fkn season lol😂.
WHY do these guys think its a good idea to play in the Olympics if they aren't 100% healthy? He had nagging injuries last year compounded by a deep playoff run. You're 24 bro, catch that Olympic bus the next go-around!
There is zero guarantee you get a second chance at the Olympics roster, especially when you can’t do anything without the ball in your hands
He had a good little run they adjusted to him but he was never that nice
A fall from grace is official
Had 2 good seasons. Here’s 300 mil
I wish the warriors had landed pascal
pacers fans said he was better than tatum😂
2021 atlanta hawks reincarnate 💀💀
The Buddy Hield effect 🗣🗣🔥🔥
buddy was the least consistent player on the pacers when he was here.... not relevant to the pacers at all but im glad you think hes doing good
@@elijahloby5400hield is playing well
He really needs to work on his handle.
Expose for sure
He got paid. The end.
In your opinion is he not doing a good job of... setting the pace?
HES OVERRATED!!!!! he played good for a few months last season and everyone GLAZED HIM for it. he's extremely mid and I'm glad everyone is seeing the player he is. still cant believe buddy made the Olympic team and put him on that starting 5 show. the ultimate glaze for a mid player.
Pacers & 76ers downfall 😋
Trades coming
So the Kings won the trade?
According to fans it's cuz he can't sleep in his own bed or sum shit these days