This format is awesome. During the work day as a groundie, it's hard to see how and why things work the way they do. But this clears up a lot of my questions. Thank you!
I used to lock mine off the same way. One day I was explaining the basics to a new guy, same as you're doing here, and when I showed him how to lock it off he asked wouldn't it be better to do it to the side instead of the end. Meaning run the rope on the pipe side when going peg to peg instead of over the end of the (sharp) pipe end since I had told him earlier to always keep the ropes of any sharp corners. I was impressed by his "new eyes" and thought I might've found my diamond in the rough, this kid might have potential. Was pretty stoked since it's pretty hard to find good groundies around here. He doing pretty well for his first day and it wasn't even lunch. An hour or two later we break for lunch, and that was the last time I ever saw him. Wrong again. Tree life isn't for everyone, that's for sure. Stay safe boys.
As someone just getting in to tree work. Having a background in commercial fishing is invaluable. I basically understood 99% of the concepts involving rope and knots from day one...
I'm 77 of years age and yet short on lots of western knowledge. I went to school in Mpls., Minn in the 60s and further, I worked for Aramco for 33 years in the industrial training field. Unless you get good and clear job instructions you cannot avoid havoc. My countrymen, like myself, don't know anything about lowering devices, therefore, they fell tall and huge trees as the wind blows with little awareness of concequences. Your instructions are exclusive and the exercise results are satisfying. If I even try to show them your video they'll shrug me off. Thank you for a benificial lesson. I'll manufacture my own device the strongest way possible since I wouldn't be able to puchase it in Beirut-Lebanon
Patrick, thanks for sharing your knowledge. I learned a great deal from you and was able to take on an American Elm that was about 50-60 feet, and 5 trees in one. I sent your porta wrap basics video to my friends who were working on the ground for me ahead of time so they could show up ready to work. Thank you so much!
Sweating the line....... In sailing, we call it "jumping". We use it a lot when raising sails. One person will man the wench and crank while another will stand at the mast, where the sail halyard exits the mast, and "jump the halyard". Good stuff man! i am new to tree work and have found your videos and website extremely helpful. You break it down very nicely and make it super easy to understand. KEEP THEM COMING!!
The fact that you turn down you audio is so super appreciated! I swear trying to listen to dialog in a video followed by unexpected edits back to cutting is doing me hearing damage.
Thanks for taking the time to explain what your doing in the videos & why. It's very helpful for those who are hoping to do down rigging safely like you do
Love this new format Patrick. Watch a lot of videos but I learn a great deal from your vids, the real nuts and bolts of climbing and rigging. Be safe my brother, thanks for all you do
I appreciate your story. I'll stop locking off the porta wrap with just a few wraps, before I have an experience like the one you shared. Good looking out.
That was excellent!! I started climbing in 92 (before portawraps) this is really good information! Thanks so much for posting this valuable informative video🙏
Wealth of knowledge here. Never heard of sweating a line, we always just pull down on the line, and never thought of wrapping the whole porta to keep from locking the half hitches. Kudos. From Yorktown, Va
Yes yes yes. Everything about this. Yes. Hands on. Tell you show you instruction. “Let me show you a little trick I picked up back in Nam”. And the fill in comments upper left when theres a lull. Good stuff! I’ll be tuning in for sure. If you know some ways that don’t work, throw that in too...and why you fought it.
Great video! Sweating the line is also very necessary when working on the pin rail in a theater. Awesome technique to add some extra years to your back.
Good tip on the volume! So many videos I have to stay poised over the volume controls for when they switch from talking to saws to music. Sweating the line, I've not heard that term, also, good job explaining not to lock off in a negative rigging situation. Enjoying the format, please keep doing these. But, not exclusively!
It would be awesome to be able to work with you for a while. I love your teaching style, how you address the nuances in situations. Its the mastery of the nuances that separate a decent to solid climber from an expert, and there are so many nuances in tree work. I've been in tree work 5 years, climbing for 3, and while i consider myself a solid climber and a solid groundsman, i'm aware that there are so many nuances left to fine tune before i feel i can call myself an expert, and i hope that even when i feel comfortable calling myself an expert, i will still remember to pay attention and continue refining my work and understanding of things. One of the beautiful things about tree work is there is always room for refinement.
Great video Really need to find some classes like this and and for climbing in Michigan I do some bucket work now but want to gain as much knowledge as possible
I love your videos when you teaching how to do it the right way, thanks a lot man I been learning your techniques, thanks and be safe, god bless you 🙋🏻♂️
A quick tip for people that doesnt know this, if you getting a lot of twisting in the rigging rope when lowering, an easy fix will be to get the rope the other way around the portawrap and that will fix that problem.
Thanks for your vids Patrick, I did a quick search for other Portie video you may have posted but couldn’t see one? Mainly I was interested how you might go about explaining ‘letting the piece run’ to new crew. I usually talk about flaking the rope behind you so it has a clear path to and from your hands, the importance of a strong stance-loose grip, initially adding nothing to the friction at the bollard and gradually controlling the piece as it comes lower. I feel the basic command to ‘let it run‘ often leads to people holding the piece ‘and then’ letting it down as fast as they can but too late.. they held for the crucial split second when the piece came into the rigging. It would be cool to see your take on teaching this skill
Crazy this was suggested for me first thing in the morning. One of my grounds guys didn't show up. So it's only one guy on the ground and he's going to have to use this exact technique. It's kind of weird how this was suggested this morning
And you are 100% correct about the audio on chainsaws hard to hear someone talk then the chainsaw is load as can be. Lol my girlfriend is always telling me turn that down haha! Love the channel
I'm not a arborist, but as a rec climber, I always enjoy the educational value your videos. So my question is dumb but like I said I'm not an arborist. I've always wondered why arborists have to go through this trouble of lowering slowly. Why can't you just let them drop and save a ton of time? Would this bust concrete?
For whatever it might be worth. we (Americans / Massachusetts) still say "swaying" (... a halyard ... on a boat, etc.). And if one is worried about being able to undo half hitches on the back of the porta-wrap, depending on the length of the pegs on your particular porta, you can "figure 8" the line (as one would on a cleat) before half-hitching...
Very well done man. I love the educational videos u put I have a wrap at work and we don’t even know how to set it up. This helps a lot. Wouldn’t mind another video, or even about how much a rope or device max loading limit
I never knew it was called "sweating," but I learned to do that on a family member's traditionally rigged schooner when I was a kid. The halyards (lines that raised the sails) were made fast to removable belay pins (in place of the port-a-wrap), and two people would work together to raise the sail (one hoisting and one pulling slack). It's amazing how much force can be generated pulling sideways on the line with your body weight, and two people in rhythm can get a sail up and tensioned pretty darned quick.
Well done and informative video. One thing though is I would not say lock off the port-a-wrap "like a boat", since cleating a boat is not quite the same. Cleating a boat only involves one half hitch if you're doing it by the book. It's all good here because you demonstrated how to do it. Unfortunately my boss told me the same thing without demonstrating. He yelled "do it like a boat." And since I sail, I did it exactly like you would properly cleat a boat. Then later I get scolded even through I was doing exactly what the he said to do.
Vary good tip. Thanks for sharing. I have totally been dogged by my subscribers for turning down the volume on my saw before lol. I have found some people really like the sound of a ripping 200T and others just subscribe for the rigging/climbing. Stay safe brotha looking forward to the side cuts episode. It’s an important step.
Great video man, You seem very patient with people. Side cuts are the truth you only have to get bucked by one spruce top to start using them religiously. Lol happy 2020 🇨🇦👊🇨🇦
Sweating the line in tree rigging operations is a crucial technique for ensuring a safe and controlled descent of heavy branches or logs. It involves applying tension to the rigging line to remove any slack and ensure a smooth lowering process. This technique not only helps prevent sudden movements that could cause damage or injury but also allows for better control over the direction of the descent. Proper sweating of the line requires skill and precision, highlighting the importance of training and experience in tree rigging. Keep climbing, keep growing, and keep shining bright, my friends! 🌳✨
Interesting. I find that when i am using a foot ascender on DDRT ascending is easiest when i sweat the line by pulling back on the anchor side as i pull down on the friction side with my hand and foot ascender.
Yo you should leave the link to the digital copy of "The Fundamentals of General Tree Work" on all video descriptions. I just bought it and combined with your videos I feel some great winter studying going down. Thanks for taking the time to explain things and show all the tricks !
Sometimes a tight rope is not so good. Sometimes you need a slight free running rope . This is to get very heavy chunks away from your cutter, you can cause very serious harm to you air man if you do not free fall from him. If set up correctly the port a rap will catch the load at a safe distance within weight reasoning from swinging heavy pieces.
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I like this format and method of educating the viewer. It's almost as if we are there with you instructing us.
This format is awesome. During the work day as a groundie, it's hard to see how and why things work the way they do. But this clears up a lot of my questions. Thank you!
Filling up the Ballard is a nice bit of wisdom, thank you.
I used to lock mine off the same way. One day I was explaining the basics to a new guy, same as you're doing here, and when I showed him how to lock it off he asked wouldn't it be better to do it to the side instead of the end. Meaning run the rope on the pipe side when going peg to peg instead of over the end of the (sharp) pipe end since I had told him earlier to always keep the ropes of any sharp corners. I was impressed by his "new eyes" and thought I might've found my diamond in the rough, this kid might have potential. Was pretty stoked since it's pretty hard to find good groundies around here. He doing pretty well for his first day and it wasn't even lunch. An hour or two later we break for lunch, and that was the last time I ever saw him. Wrong again. Tree life isn't for everyone, that's for sure. Stay safe boys.
sweating the line! ive never seen that before. very cool man, i appreciate that tip
As someone just getting in to tree work. Having a background in commercial fishing is invaluable. I basically understood 99% of the concepts involving rope and knots from day one...
I'm 77 of years age and yet short on lots of western knowledge. I went to school in Mpls., Minn in the 60s and further, I worked for Aramco for 33 years in the industrial training field. Unless you get good and clear job instructions you cannot avoid havoc. My countrymen, like myself, don't know anything about lowering devices, therefore, they fell tall and huge trees as the wind blows with little awareness of concequences. Your instructions are exclusive and the exercise results are satisfying. If I even try to show them your video they'll shrug me off. Thank you for a benificial lesson. I'll manufacture my own device the strongest way possible since I wouldn't be able to puchase it in Beirut-Lebanon
Cheers mate
I really like this format, was hopeful we'd have a whole series of these tutorials. Incredibly valuable. Thank you sir.
That technique for sweating is gonna really help me out. Thanks
Patrick, thanks for sharing your knowledge. I learned a great deal from you and was able to take on an American Elm that was about 50-60 feet, and 5 trees in one. I sent your porta wrap basics video to my friends who were working on the ground for me ahead of time so they could show up ready to work. Thank you so much!
Sweating the line....... In sailing, we call it "jumping". We use it a lot when raising sails. One person will man the wench and crank while another will stand at the mast, where the sail halyard exits the mast, and "jump the halyard".
Good stuff man! i am new to tree work and have found your videos and website extremely helpful. You break it down very nicely and make it super easy to understand. KEEP THEM COMING!!
The fact that you turn down you audio is so super appreciated! I swear trying to listen to dialog in a video followed by unexpected edits back to cutting is doing me hearing damage.
Thanks for taking the time to explain what your doing in the videos & why. It's very helpful for those who are hoping to do down rigging safely like you do
Love this new format Patrick. Watch a lot of videos but I learn a great deal from your vids, the real nuts and bolts of climbing and rigging. Be safe my brother, thanks for all you do
I appreciate the detail in your explanations. Giving the reason why you do things a certain way helps concepts sink in. Thanks...
Thank you for these great educational videos .
Well done Patrick. I’m really liking this new format. I hope you keep it going for a while. Thanks muchly. 👍🏼🇨🇦
I appreciate your story. I'll stop locking off the porta wrap with just a few wraps, before I have an experience like the one you shared. Good looking out.
That was excellent!! I started climbing in 92 (before portawraps) this is really good information! Thanks so much for posting this valuable informative video🙏
I'm not even an arborist nor did I know what it was until 2 weeks ago but I just like the rigging and different types of knots. Interesting.
Wealth of knowledge here. Never heard of sweating a line, we always just pull down on the line, and never thought of wrapping the whole porta to keep from locking the half hitches. Kudos. From Yorktown, Va
Hey thanks brother, appreciate it... - Patrick
Love it , more wraps as an antidote to freezing at the top .
Never seen the "sweating" technique before. Have been through the locked up 1/2 hitch's and it is a pain. Thanks and keep them coming!
Great video. I got my first port-a-wrap yesterday.
Thanks for being willing to teach others what you know.
Yes yes yes. Everything about this. Yes. Hands on. Tell you show you instruction. “Let me show you a little trick I picked up back in Nam”. And the fill in comments upper left when theres a lull. Good stuff! I’ll be tuning in for sure. If you know some ways that don’t work, throw that in too...and why you fought it.
Nice stuff Patrick. I am definitely looking forward to watching side cuts video. And more!
Respect to all!
Climb high, work smart, read more!
Great instruction !
I think you found your second calling !
Great video! Sweating the line is also very necessary when working on the pin rail in a theater. Awesome technique to add some extra years to your back.
Good tip on the volume! So many videos I have to stay poised over the volume controls for when they switch from talking to saws to music.
Sweating the line, I've not heard that term, also, good job explaining not to lock off in a negative rigging situation.
Enjoying the format, please keep doing these. But, not exclusively!
It would be awesome to be able to work with you for a while. I love your teaching style, how you address the nuances in situations. Its the mastery of the nuances that separate a decent to solid climber from an expert, and there are so many nuances in tree work.
I've been in tree work 5 years, climbing for 3, and while i consider myself a solid climber and a solid groundsman, i'm aware that there are so many nuances left to fine tune before i feel i can call myself an expert, and i hope that even when i feel comfortable calling myself an expert, i will still remember to pay attention and continue refining my work and understanding of things. One of the beautiful things about tree work is there is always room for refinement.
Well said. I'm in my 13th year and I'm definitely not an expert yet. There is no end point! - Patrick
Mate your patients skill and ability to explain is amazing keep it up and stay safe 💪
Bro we used to use tiny portawrap outa the bucket with sling. Worked well. Fullas just undo it n go, cheers
Patrick ? I think I heard you say. Just wanted to say I watched James on his first climb vid. Awesome. Great vid. Great team 👍.
Thanks for the video! Great job of explaining for me.
Great video
Really need to find some classes like this and and for climbing in Michigan
I do some bucket work now but want to gain as much knowledge as possible
Well done, very educational and sound.
Thank you
Thanks for explaining this so well. 😉👍
I have learned so much from your videos.
Good tips bro! Thanks for taking the time and effort to help us be better equipped to do our work more efficiently and safely.
Excellent- never seen this technique will be trying soon
I do love the new video style it really helps with understanding all of what it taking place
I love your videos when you teaching how to do it the right way, thanks a lot man I been learning your techniques, thanks and be safe, god bless you 🙋🏻♂️
Great video...this format is going to help a lot of people get a better understanding of what they are seeing....be safe
A quick tip for people that doesnt know this, if you getting a lot of twisting in the rigging rope when lowering, an easy fix will be to get the rope the other way around the portawrap and that will fix that problem.
Great point, really helps to alternate the rope direction with each piece coming down. Thanks for the tip! - Patrick
@@TreeMuggs_PatrickM Exactly!!! 🤜🤛😁
Thanks for your vids Patrick, I did a quick search for other Portie video you may have posted but couldn’t see one? Mainly I was interested how you might go about explaining ‘letting the piece run’ to new crew. I usually talk about flaking the rope behind you so it has a clear path to and from your hands, the importance of a strong stance-loose grip, initially adding nothing to the friction at the bollard and gradually controlling the piece as it comes lower. I feel the basic command to ‘let it run‘ often leads to people holding the piece ‘and then’ letting it down as fast as they can but too late.. they held for the crucial split second when the piece came into the rigging. It would be cool to see your take on teaching this skill
Yes definitely, need to make more vids in this series! - Patrick
Very instructional video thanks 👍✊️
Great video learning I’m learning something. Love the video choices at the end going to get me hooked for hours lol
Crazy this was suggested for me first thing in the morning. One of my grounds guys didn't show up. So it's only one guy on the ground and he's going to have to use this exact technique. It's kind of weird how this was suggested this morning
And you are 100% correct about the audio on chainsaws hard to hear someone talk then the chainsaw is load as can be. Lol my girlfriend is always telling me turn that down haha! Love the channel
Bravo! Bravo!! Bravo!!! 👍
Nice! Perfect timing. Need this info soon. Have a brand new porta-wrap waiting to be used.
Fantastic as usual! Learned about the term "sweating" we were doing it just didn't know it was actually a thing. Be Well
Feels so much more legit now I have a name for it :p
Hey thanks just found your Channel rigging with the porter rap today and tomorrow nice
Thanks buddy I send all your stuff to my grounds guys
I appreciate your stuff very much man 🙏👊
Once agian yes I like this format great information givin in this video thank you for the content
Yep never seen that done before. I'll use the sweeting the rope technique on this next job. That help explain a little better to my next ground guy.
I'm not a arborist, but as a rec climber, I always enjoy the educational value your videos. So my question is dumb but like I said I'm not an arborist. I've always wondered why arborists have to go through this trouble of lowering slowly. Why can't you just let them drop and save a ton of time? Would this bust concrete?
Thanks for sharing! Great format!
For whatever it might be worth. we (Americans / Massachusetts) still say "swaying" (... a halyard ... on a boat, etc.). And if one is worried about being able to undo half hitches on the back of the porta-wrap, depending on the length of the pegs on your particular porta, you can "figure 8" the line (as one would on a cleat) before half-hitching...
lots of good info... thanks man
Great educational video! Thanks. Subscribed.
Thank you. Welcome to the channel! - Patrick
Very well done man. I love the educational videos u put I have a wrap at work and we don’t even know how to set it up. This helps a lot. Wouldn’t mind another video, or even about how much a rope or device max loading limit
Thanks man, working on more groundie vids... - Patrick
Wicked vid, cheers for this bud.
Great explanation!
Thanks man very helpful.! 👍🏽
Great Stuff keep up the good work
Great video Brother super helpful 👍 I just ordered myself a port a wrap and this is going to really help. Climb safe and GOD Bless. 🙏😇
Right on! - Patrick
Have yet to see a catalpa that big in VA. First encounter with one I had no clue what it was lol
Awesome video..thank you
I never knew it was called "sweating," but I learned to do that on a family member's traditionally rigged schooner when I was a kid. The halyards (lines that raised the sails) were made fast to removable belay pins (in place of the port-a-wrap), and two people would work together to raise the sail (one hoisting and one pulling slack). It's amazing how much force can be generated pulling sideways on the line with your body weight, and two people in rhythm can get a sail up and tensioned pretty darned quick.
Come on bro keep the good shit coming keep climbing and knocking them down 💯💯I am my brother keeper
awesome video. thanks heaps
Love these videos! keep it up
Well done and informative video. One thing though is I would not say lock off the port-a-wrap "like a boat", since cleating a boat is not quite the same. Cleating a boat only involves one half hitch if you're doing it by the book. It's all good here because you demonstrated how to do it. Unfortunately my boss told me the same thing without demonstrating. He yelled "do it like a boat." And since I sail, I did it exactly like you would properly cleat a boat. Then later I get scolded even through I was doing exactly what the he said to do.
Olá amigo muito obrigado por vc compartilhar suas informações Deus abençoe
Very good information
The Stein Pre Tension Pulley has been invaluable to me, many times.
it's pretty sweet. I made a video a while back of that same technique but with a regular swing gate pulley instead of a specialized one. All the best
@@TreeMuggs_PatrickM
Very cool.
Could you link to the video? I'd like to see it.
Thanks.
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Ahh, leave the cheek plate open, duh. Got it.
Thanks.
Good info! Thanks 👍
“There he is” wait, are you talking to yourself?? 😊
what a weirdo... 🤣
Ha ha yea he is
lol
I do that ha, ha.
Vary good tip. Thanks for sharing. I have totally been dogged by my subscribers for turning down the volume on my saw before lol. I have found some people really like the sound of a ripping 200T and others just subscribe for the rigging/climbing. Stay safe brotha looking forward to the side cuts episode. It’s an important step.
I love the sound of the saw, stuff sounds weird when it's muted, although I've done that on some of my music videos... Cheers bro - Patrick
Cheers from Hockey Town USA. Go Wings!
Mike you spelled FLYERS wrong!
Matt Stone 😂
Good info. Thanks
You bet! - Patrick
Great video! "Grüße" from germany 🌳
great explanation !!
Great video man, You seem very patient with people. Side cuts are the truth you only have to get bucked by one spruce top to start using them religiously. Lol happy 2020 🇨🇦👊🇨🇦
Sweating the line in tree rigging operations is a crucial technique for ensuring a safe and controlled descent of heavy branches or logs. It involves applying tension to the rigging line to remove any slack and ensure a smooth lowering process. This technique not only helps prevent sudden movements that could cause damage or injury but also allows for better control over the direction of the descent. Proper sweating of the line requires skill and precision, highlighting the importance of training and experience in tree rigging. Keep climbing, keep growing, and keep shining bright, my friends! 🌳✨
Those hitches tho nice. I do more wraps everywhere, works but dum cheers
Great vidéo !
Why wouldn't you shock load with that configuration on the porta? How would you do it? Thank you kindly, great vids!
Great stuff!
Hi I'm pretty paranoid. Lol. Can you get a bigger bollard? Beautiful work!
Interesting. I find that when i am using a foot ascender on DDRT ascending is easiest when i sweat the line by pulling back on the anchor side as i pull down on the friction side with my hand and foot ascender.
Not sure what you mean... - Patrick
Yo you should leave the link to the digital copy of "The Fundamentals of General Tree Work" on all video descriptions.
I just bought it and combined with your videos I feel some great winter studying going down. Thanks for taking the time to explain things and show all the tricks !
Thanks man, I will do that! - Patrick
Really appreciate the support....... - Patrick
So when did this Catalpa come down? Recently? You're in a T-shirt, near the Great Lakes, in January......DIG IT! 🤩
nah, this was back in August!
EducatedClimber - Lol, okay....I was thinking how lucky you guys are with that weather...😜
I like the hat! Go wings!
most excellent ..
Nice hat.. red wings!!
Love it!!!!
Sometimes a tight rope is not so good. Sometimes you need a slight free running rope . This is to get very heavy chunks away from your cutter, you can cause very serious harm to you air man if you do not free fall from him. If set up correctly the port a rap will catch the load at a safe distance within weight reasoning from swinging heavy pieces.