The Truth About "Superhero Fatigue"

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    So, there’s been a lot of talk as of late about the idea of “superhero fatigue.”
    With movies like Ant Man and the Wasp: Quantumania and Shazam: Fury of the Gods underperforming at the box office, a lot of people have been concerned that general audiences may have moved on from costumed heroes. But I don’t know if that’s really the case.
    It’s something that I’ve been thinking about for a while, and while there’s definitely some shift happening, I think that it’s more complicated than just “people are tired of superheroes now.” I think it has more to do with the filmmaking standard, and after 2022 in blockbusters with Top Gun: Maverick, Avatar: The Way of Water, Everything Everywhere All At Once, Nope, even Matt Reeve’s The Batman, audiences are asking for more when it comes to blockbusters and superhero media.
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  • @troyoboyo17
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    • @MikeReafe
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    • @suto5704
      @suto5704 Год назад +1

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    • @patrickoconnell8719
      @patrickoconnell8719 Год назад

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  • @twunt9688
    @twunt9688 Год назад +1620

    I don't think people are sick of superhero movies I just think people are sick of bad movies

    • @kevinhugo6737
      @kevinhugo6737 Год назад +56

      Literally.

    • @status_quo_post
      @status_quo_post Год назад +28

      Exactly

    • @DarkLord-hl1fi
      @DarkLord-hl1fi Год назад +98

      The Batman literally came out a year ago and it made good money and was praised and nobody said superhero movies are dying

    • @HarpreetSingh-jd3tu
      @HarpreetSingh-jd3tu Год назад +10

      100%, thank you! Agreed!

    • @lennyztrobos8678
      @lennyztrobos8678 Год назад +57

      Yes. I'll add that some mediocre superhero movies that should have done poorly, ended up doing fine just because they where part of the MCU and like, required viewing at that point. THAT is something I think people are sick of.

  • @BrendanJSmith
    @BrendanJSmith Год назад +968

    We're not tired of superheroes in general. We're tired of Disney and by extension Marvel's assembly line approach to filmmaking. Nothing feels personal anymore.

    • @caramelcandys
      @caramelcandys Год назад +74

      Yea like I thought i had superhero fatigue after endgame but then i saw the batman 2022 and watched some older superhero movies like watching superman for the first time and rewatching man of steel after 6 years and realized i was tired of the sameyness of the mcu and wanted them to diversify their tones and be more sincere. Even then i was sick and tired of quips

    • @Antwannnn
      @Antwannnn Год назад +32

      Still wrong. You're tired of bad quality. That's it. Bc when the "assembly line" movies were good for a decade there were little complaints, correct? Then you get the mediocrity of Phase 4 now all of a sudden the "assembly line" is the problem lol

    • @ilovehotlatinas5725
      @ilovehotlatinas5725 Год назад +38

      @@Antwannnn the early phase mcu movies still felt different from eachother and imo was the best time for the mcu quality wise

    • @owlcircus6811
      @owlcircus6811 Год назад +13

      @@Antwannnn​Thank you. No one else thinks about this because they don’t have to because the internet is their side, therefore so is the world so why do they need to think otherwise? People shitting on the MCU for its current state and praising stuff like The Batman and Joker JUST for its “personal touch” make me laugh at the whole Batman v Superman vs Civil War fiasco where most people (and audiences by box office measure) just said, “why don’t you do what marvel is doing because they clearly know what they’re doing”
      But it’s only wrong NOW because they don’t have the same quality despite their doing business the same way since 2012
      Some of these people lack self awareness

    • @caramelcandys
      @caramelcandys Год назад +16

      @@Antwannnn that and the fact that phases 1-3 were all leading up to something and it all felt like they contributed to the world they were building helped. Phase 4 and so far of 5 has been stuff that doesn’t really lead to something and has been extremely disconnected. If they shook things around and made all the movies tone wise extremely different then i would see it as a new avengers storyline

  • @firstlast9846
    @firstlast9846 Год назад +801

    *The one thing I liked about James Gunn’s DC pitch* was that he mentioned how creatives come in talking about “I wanna do something ambitious” then the end product is something so “safe” you can tell the studio meddled with everything… so to see that he’s focusing on the more introspective comics as reference - - is as ambitious as it gets - fills me with hope that this DCU will go crazy.

    • @moviesaredope
      @moviesaredope Год назад +28

      Well freaking said, I can't wait to experience their new slate of projects 🤩

    • @averydee5328
      @averydee5328 Год назад +7

      I remember him saying that as well.

    • @have345
      @have345 Год назад +8

      More like bad movie fatigue

    • @michaelriverside1139
      @michaelriverside1139 Год назад +24

      That he actually proves his point with the bonkers, yet meaningful stories of The Suicide Squad & Peacemaker makes me excited to see how is he going to approach and collaborate upon Swamp Thing and Supergirl, specially since he mentions Vertigo's Saga of the Swamp Thing and Woman of Tomorrow as direct inspiration for the films...
      Oh, and the way he simply geeks-out when talking about The Authority, makes me wanna se that movie despite knowing nothing about it!

    • @moviesaredope
      @moviesaredope Год назад +15

      @@michaelriverside1139 same! His excitement is freaking infectious (and I'm currently rewatching TSS & Peacemaker - them both being, as you said, so bongers & yet so meaningful feels like a gift (and a miracle, considering WB's history of meddling))

  • @JaySpiderPop30
    @JaySpiderPop30 Год назад +620

    I’m still excited for “Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse.”

    • @galactic85
      @galactic85 Год назад +24

      At this point I'm only excited to see that, Superman: Legacy, Batman Part 2 and Swamp Thing.

    • @jambogames678
      @jambogames678 Год назад +5

      Everyone and their Gran is excited for it

    • @Aaidnproduction
      @Aaidnproduction Год назад +18

      @@galactic85 you telling me you ain’t hyped for the movie that change animation and is one of the best Spider-Man movies

    • @QUBIQUBED
      @QUBIQUBED Год назад +6

      @@Aaidnproductionsome people don’t like animated movies

    • @ooffordays566
      @ooffordays566 Год назад +20

      @@Aaidnproduction no, that person is saying they're excited to see Across the Spider-Verse AND the other three films. Note "that" at the beginning of the list. It's implying the film that was already mentioned.

  • @IcyDiamond
    @IcyDiamond Год назад +129

    Finally someone else noticed that every single Marvel movie since phase 4 has had one of the villains redeemed, I thought I was the only one who noticed that!

  • @thomasbicknell175
    @thomasbicknell175 Год назад +90

    Jay Bauman said it best; “The fatigue only sets in when the movies are lame”

  • @IzayaLee1725
    @IzayaLee1725 Год назад +230

    Honestly you hit the nail on the head with it
    It's not a fatigue of Superheroes themselves it's a fatigue of them constantly getting shoved into mediocre movies
    Also I'd love for you to cover more video game stuff

    • @maazabbasi9174
      @maazabbasi9174 Год назад +2

      Yeah I'd love if he'd maybe cover the Sonic movies and maybe even throw a pitch for the upcoming third movie. I think that'd be cool.

    • @Kacpa2
      @Kacpa2 Год назад +1

      Except people are also tired of superhero movies. There are too many and no original idea films. And its littering cinemas endlessly.

  • @thelittleorangefriend393
    @thelittleorangefriend393 Год назад +318

    My biggest issue with superhero movies at the moment is that they’re more focused on the wider story rather than the characters. I loved the Netflix shows because they didn’t feel like they were building towards anything. Sure, they were working towards The Hand, but even still they focused more on the characters. The Batman… built towards NOTHING. Just hinted at some stuff to come. Absolutely fantastic movie. The winter soldier, while still building towards the bigger story, focused more on characters, and that movie was at the top of my MCU ranking for a while

    • @HarpreetSingh-jd3tu
      @HarpreetSingh-jd3tu Год назад +16

      true, also this world building creates problem on its own which you mentioned. The movie we are watching doesnt mean anything... its actually just a long trailer for the next movie.

    • @Nevad25
      @Nevad25 Год назад +9

      Agree with what you said. I loved that the focus of The Batman was Bruce Wayne himself and his journey, the emphasis is put on the characters and their development

    • @Jane-oz7pp
      @Jane-oz7pp Год назад +1

      ​@@Nevad25 which also allowed for Matt Reeves to actually explore the themes a little

    • @wesleywyndam-pryce5305
      @wesleywyndam-pryce5305 Год назад +2

      I sure hope I'm not in the minority to disagree with the ENTIRE sentiment of what you said.
      the movies are bad in part because they are stretched too thin making things that don't lead into the rest and in doing so are making just too many things. the shows were the first major flaw of the franchise

    • @Bustermachine
      @Bustermachine 10 месяцев назад

      The way I've heard it described is that the success of the MCU has lead to each subsequent film becoming more and more nothing but an advertisement for the subsequent installment, which is in turn and advertisement for the installment after that. It's a literal hype train, with each movie being another train car.

  • @Robbity
    @Robbity Год назад +44

    See I think Guardians 3 definitely disproved the “people are tired of superhero movies”. That movie is killing it financially and critically. I think they are just sick of sloppily put together like Quantumania.

    • @angellara7040
      @angellara7040 Год назад +4

      And then flash fell on its face

    • @overportfilms
      @overportfilms 9 месяцев назад

      Bro guardians of the galaxy vol. 3 is a sci-fi/adventure film set in space. No body has super powers, most of them are aliens. I have superhero fatigue. People flying around in capes gets boriing after a while...bring back gritty crime thrillers or any other genre apart from horror that is no longer in the mainstream becomes of an oversaturation of boring ass superheroes...

  • @jhunterl98
    @jhunterl98 Год назад +40

    the camera zooms on your superhero stuff were inspired

  • @suicidalloafofbread2009
    @suicidalloafofbread2009 Год назад +36

    People have been talking about "Superhero fatigue" for like a decade now. I think if superhero movies were more focused on the individual stories they can tell rather than the universe, I think people wouldn't be as critical about the "superhero genre"

    • @FINNSTIGAT0R
      @FINNSTIGAT0R 9 месяцев назад +1

      I don't get why is it so important for the audiences to have a cinematic universe of any kind. I know why studios like the idea, but what's the intrigue for the viewer?
      But then again I've never much cheered for crossovers and collaborations anyway 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @invisiblefan2387
    @invisiblefan2387 Год назад +41

    I’m not tired of superhero movies. I’m just tired of the ones we’ve been getting.

  • @jdogisgoated
    @jdogisgoated Год назад +100

    I'm not tired of superheroes so much as I'm tired of the connected universe stuff. You can have characters like Spider-Man exist in a world where Iron Man and Hulk also exist without making them team up every movie or set up three other movies/shows.

    • @TanmanC
      @TanmanC Год назад

      Yeah that’s a good point. I think what made early MCU great is that they did the team up stuff sparingly, which made it standout more

    • @Bustermachine
      @Bustermachine 10 месяцев назад +1

      I think there's a certain critical mass to even a successful interconnected universe. After which you're just juggling too much stuff and those serendipitous team ups no longer give the fans a dopamine rush. As much as RUclips seems to be losing its mind about Super Hero fatigue. That tends to be what happens with Fads. They run for about a decade, getting bigger and bigger, until they eventually flame out and begin to decline, limping along until something else displaces them.
      That 's not to say Super Hero movies will disappear. They'll just hopefully return to being one genre among many.

  • @nerdgeekman
    @nerdgeekman Год назад +174

    This is why I’m glad The Boys and Invincible exist. They both take a different turn on comic book media and they’re both highly accessible unlike the MCU where you have to watch one thing in order to understand the other.

    • @langreeves6419
      @langreeves6419 Год назад +9

      Invincible is amazing.

    • @valletas
      @valletas Год назад +6

      The boys show is great but the comics suck

    • @salvadorHombre
      @salvadorHombre Год назад +11

      The Boys, crucially, isn't a superhero story. It has a whole bunch of ideas about Fascism, Celebrity culture, Capitalism, etc. But it's not a Superhero story.
      Invincible is a Superhero story but told in a subversive, dark way while still being sincere.
      I wouldn't count The Boys as Superhero media. The fact that they're superheroes is tangential to the main themes. Invincible is a bonafide superhero story.

    • @valletas
      @valletas Год назад +8

      @@salvadorHombre its funny because the boys comic is 100% a superhero story
      Like they are fighting villains in the corrupted superheroes, they make a team to fight against them and even get superpowers to do it
      The guy who made the boys clearly didnt like the superhero genre but i will always find funny how in his attempt to dismantle the genre he made a generic superhero story

  • @thadmaster7
    @thadmaster7 Год назад +46

    James gunn said he's giving directors of his DC universe more creative freedom so I say in terms of variety, superhero movies may have a brighter future

  • @rockleesankleweights1268
    @rockleesankleweights1268 Год назад +31

    People aren’t tired of Superhero movies, they’re tired of movies that are essentially treated like sitcom episodes. It’s actually so refreshing seeing a movie that IS the project. Like it’s so rare for a single film to be something that everyone involved seems to truly care about and not just part of the job

    • @southlondon86
      @southlondon86 Год назад +1

      People are tired of superhero kids crap. They want good movies back.

    • @overportfilms
      @overportfilms 9 месяцев назад

      I have superhero fatigue. People flying around in capes gets boriing after a while...bring back gritty crime thrillers or any other genre apart from horror that is no longer in the mainstream becomes of an oversaturation of boring ass superheroes...

  • @bat123ice
    @bat123ice Год назад +25

    Barry from HBO needs more coverage honestly. It deserves more appreciation than it gets . A Must see show!

    • @suto5704
      @suto5704 Год назад +2

      Season 4 has been great. Bill Hader really is that guy

    • @TanmanC
      @TanmanC Год назад

      Yes! 100% agree, such a good show!

    • @TanmanC
      @TanmanC Год назад

      @@suto5704 yeah man, he is! I’ve been loving Bill ever since SNL

  • @undeadbean207
    @undeadbean207 Год назад +43

    We need to see more superhero films like Werewolf by Night, not just in the horror sense (although that would be nice), but with unique styles of filming, writing, acting, etc. Like you said, not every movie needs to be an action/comedy with the virtually same plot.

    • @goj1_lag00n
      @goj1_lag00n Год назад +1

      It's impressive how the composer made the best Marvel movie of Phase 4.

    • @fabioj2353
      @fabioj2353 Год назад +1

      Pin this comment no one talks about Werewolf and it’s the best product the MCU has made imo.

  • @MrReset94
    @MrReset94 Год назад +10

    The issue is not the "Cinematic Universe", but rather the idea that everything that's part of it needs to be made in the exact same way. Give directors freedom to do the movie they want (hire good ones, and good writers) and just find the way to tie this diverse movies together through the general arc and the shared world, rather than style and tropes.

  • @phantomgamer9264
    @phantomgamer9264 Год назад +38

    Video game adaptions are definitely the next big trend. Mario is hitting a billion soon, people were praising The Last of Us, Sonic 3 is coming next year and Ghost of Tsushima is getting hyped up by its director

    • @gamehero6816
      @gamehero6816 Год назад +7

      Don't forget Arcane.

    • @EclipsingTNT
      @EclipsingTNT Год назад +4

      @@gamehero6816 Arcane is a terrible example as it's a canonical prequel to League of Legends.

    • @crazysmith5408
      @crazysmith5408 Год назад +10

      @@EclipsingTNT It’s still an adaptation of the video game exploring League’s often overlooked lore. Not a good film, but would you not say the Uncharted film isn’t a video game adaptation because it’s a prequel. There both projects adapted based off a video game, which is all that’s really needed to adapt a video game more. The Mario movie is also a prequel, where Mario is learning about the Mushroom kingdom.

    • @TanmanC
      @TanmanC Год назад +1

      Yes I 100% agree! Maybe the Nintendo Cinematic Universe will be the next big thing

    • @wesleywyndam-pryce5305
      @wesleywyndam-pryce5305 Год назад +1

      sonic and Mario are memes, not good movies. but they make money so yeah probably

  • @willcooper8028
    @willcooper8028 Год назад +72

    There is no superhero fatigue, only fatigue for the Marvel style of superhero filmmaking

    • @langreeves6419
      @langreeves6419 Год назад +7

      That seems to be right....
      But Marvel made a very different movie, with less humor. It was a good movie, but Fandom lost their S%$* about it.
      So after The Eternals, Marvel went back to their standard movies.
      The fans SAY they want something different, but obviously the fans want the same movie over and over.

    • @vannyddd
      @vannyddd Год назад +17

      @@langreeves6419 the Winter Soldier is regarded as one of the best mcu films, and is known for having less humor. The Eternals would’ve needed a tv show if it wanted to tell it’s story properly

    • @langreeves6419
      @langreeves6419 Год назад +4

      @vannydd it was a self contained movie, it needed no TV show
      The winter soldier was a standard m c u movie
      The eternals was something different.
      And fans do not want something different.

    • @willcooper8028
      @willcooper8028 Год назад +6

      @@langreeves6419 I don’t think this is true. People dislike the eternals simply because they think it’s bad. Fans really liked werewolf by night which is clearly different.

    • @rioluna6058
      @rioluna6058 Год назад

      there is superhero fatigue. and marvel disney fatigue . international numbers are way down . . saludos

  • @femmedracula6857
    @femmedracula6857 Год назад +4

    I really like your pov on this. Especially after RUclips's been throwing "the MCU is doomed" videos at me for weeks. I would love to see the MCU take more risks, but also I still like at least some of what's coming out.

  • @MiroWallinFanboy
    @MiroWallinFanboy Год назад +5

    Three fantastic videos in a week? It's like christmas came early! Really early...

    • @troyoboyo17
      @troyoboyo17  Год назад +2

      Thank you! I’m so tired

    • @mightymorphingpo
      @mightymorphingpo Год назад

      @@troyoboyo17 remember me

    • @MiroWallinFanboy
      @MiroWallinFanboy Год назад

      ​@@troyoboyo17 don't overwork yourself Troy, we all will still love your content!

  • @gazem_3211
    @gazem_3211 Год назад +54

    If Guardians or Spider-verse flop, then that will truly signify Superhero fatigue imo. But luckily, neither look to be failing.

    • @Antwannnn
      @Antwannnn Год назад +1

      What do you consider a flop?

    • @MahNamJeff
      @MahNamJeff Год назад

      ​@@Antwannnn loss of money

    • @Antwannnn
      @Antwannnn Год назад +2

      @@MahNamJeff naaah you'd be surprised the way people would say, "Avatar 2 will be a flop if it doesn't make more than 2 billion," but then they turn around and act as if Black Adam was a success. Straight up coo coos

    • @themanofshadows
      @themanofshadows Год назад +11

      If those movies flop it’s not because they’re superhero movies, but rather bad movies. Superhero fatigue isn’t a thing, just like anime fatigue isn’t a thing; people will always rush to the theaters to see these kinds of movies because the market is so large for them. People are still excited for the next The Batman movie, the next Avengers film, Sony SpiderVerse, the new James Gunn DCU slate, Deadpool 3 etc… and people will go see them. The fatigue is in the quality of the movies, not the genre of movie. If all the MCU Phase 4 movies were actually good and well made (encouraging more people to see them and thus making better box offices), ‘superhero fatigue’ would be out of the picture.

    • @MahNamJeff
      @MahNamJeff Год назад +2

      @@themanofshadows The entire point of this comment is the fact that those movies are almost guaranteed to be good

  • @biazacha
    @biazacha Год назад +6

    Multiverse of Madness hyping itself up as the “scariest movie of the MCU” just to not deliver really killed a good part of my enjoyment watching it. The Talocans introduction in Wakanda Forever alone was more bone chilling than the “horror” entry of MCU.

    • @teddybear8348
      @teddybear8348 3 месяца назад

      Imagine the kind of sence with vampires in mcu blade with the R rated and see vampires bring completly carnage on a village on human beings in silence and will play iut like a very creepy and disturbing almost like it was riped off from a horror manga

  • @trevturp6891
    @trevturp6891 Год назад +8

    Actually, after the success of Blade, X-men, and Spider-Man, we saw a huge surge in comic book adaptations.

  • @taruha89
    @taruha89 Год назад +8

    I don’t trust the riddler

  • @wiredant6497
    @wiredant6497 Год назад +8

    I have to admit that other movies like Elvis, Top Gun: Maverick, and Bullet Train we’re fairly good movies and I’d argue, better than recent Marvel and DC movies (except The Batman, No Way Home, Wakanda Forever)

    • @haruhirogrimgar6047
      @haruhirogrimgar6047 Год назад +1

      As much as everyone adores Everything Everywhere All at Once, Bullet Train was probably my favourite movie of 2022.
      (EEAAO is great, but I just couldn't resonate with the message).

  • @CineflickProductions
    @CineflickProductions Год назад +11

    I can definitely agree 2022 was a fantastic year for movies

    • @rommix0
      @rommix0 Год назад +2

      Definitely for both live action and animated films. 2022 was the year dreamworks beat out disney. Imagine that.

  • @uchihabomber1296
    @uchihabomber1296 Год назад +9

    I also believe that people after watching so many superhero movies now have incredibly higher standards for these movies now. Also suddenly everybody is just an expert in CGI now for some reason which gets annoying at some points

  • @HILLSIDECOMICS
    @HILLSIDECOMICS Год назад +2

    Would love to see "The Spider-Verse-ification of animation" talking about the style influencing Puss In Boots The Last Wish, Elemental, TMNT Mutant Mayhem, etc

  • @userpersonwhoisahuman
    @userpersonwhoisahuman Год назад +2

    BABE WAKE UP NEW TROYOBOYO VIDEO

  • @alexjustalexyt1144
    @alexjustalexyt1144 Год назад +3

    In my experience and in my case, it's not superhero fatigue, badmovie fatigue or even MCU fatigue, it's just movie fatigue. I think this is what some, not all, people have and don't even realize it. Think about it, for most of our history we never consumed as much media as we do now. Consuming media was (mostly) restricted to shows with certain times you could watch it at and theaters before it goes into DVDs and all of sudden we don't have that anymore. We have so much content that we can't keep up with, everyone is always watching a new movie or a new series and catching up with anything that came before. Everyone has watched everything and somehow the people making movies and shows have to create something new? This is just my opinion and my experience.

  • @DezMarivette
    @DezMarivette Год назад +2

    Oh man I had superhero fatigue all the way back in 2004. I didn’t know what I was in for.

  • @bochatube
    @bochatube Год назад +2

    "Wonderwoman 1984... one of the last superheroes movies of the last few years" thats was really good😂

  • @jelliotc8239
    @jelliotc8239 Год назад +1

    I love how troyo has gotten so good at writing heroic speeches in the Spidey and superman prewrites that they're just dropping them at the end of regular videos now. Everything they write goes so hard goddamn

  • @clyde1229
    @clyde1229 Год назад +8

    I literally can't watch MCU anymore, but at least I'm still hyped for Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse and The Batman: Part II

    • @TheFunnyGuy9000
      @TheFunnyGuy9000 Год назад

      Will you be watching GOTG vol 3?

    • @clyde1229
      @clyde1229 Год назад +1

      @@TheFunnyGuy9000 yeah, tommorow. I heard its pretty good

  • @animalkid4001
    @animalkid4001 Год назад +4

    COVER SCOTT PILGRIM PLEASE!!! not enough people are talking about it. It is amazing, and I know you like it too.

  • @thesuperframe
    @thesuperframe Год назад +2

    Perfect video, hit every nail on the head 😮‍💨

    • @troyoboyo17
      @troyoboyo17  Год назад +2

      Thanks so much dude! I may or may not have stolen a little bit from what I said in our collab last year lol

  • @dockingtwo3403
    @dockingtwo3403 Год назад

    Another great video as always Troy (haven’t seen it yet so I’m just trusting it’ll be good)

  • @Alucard2091
    @Alucard2091 Год назад +1

    Guardians of the Galaxy Vol.3 didnt failed me. I'm so excited for another superhero film like TMNT Mutant Mayhem & Spider-Verse 2

  • @McLovin-zf7wq
    @McLovin-zf7wq Год назад +2

    There’s a reason why the Sam Raimi Spider-Man films are still, to this day, the best superhero films ever made and that’s because they’re not even superhero films. They’re life lessons disguised as superhero films and that’s why they’re so impactful even after all this time. Marvel movies lack passion, they don’t bother connecting with audiences anymore, they’re just made to carry the plot forward and lead into the next huge crossover. I think what’s missing in all the marvel movies is showing how these superheroes uplift and inspire the people around them. My favorite scenes in the Raimi films are the ones where the citizens of New York stand up to the villains to back Parker up (bridge scene in 1 and train scene in 2) and we just don’t see that kind of storytelling in Marvel today.

  • @realMG420
    @realMG420 Год назад +6

    I’d love to hear more of your thoughts on the Zelda series, especially with Tears of the Kingdom about to drop and already being a very, very big deal. I don’t think I’ve ever been more excited for anything in my entire life, and that’s saying something considering we got Infinity War, Endgame, The Batman, the entire MCU Spidey trilogy, and so many other outstanding projects in recent years. More TV show content would be a welcome addition too!

  • @joshcowdrey7894
    @joshcowdrey7894 Год назад +1

    I’d love to hear you discuss some horror movies!

  • @destin3942
    @destin3942 Год назад

    I love the "Superhero movie" in the background lol

  • @alexallen9640
    @alexallen9640 Год назад

    Nice discussion and topic. I like your perspective. Could you talk sci-fi and kaiju movies please?

  • @heroicgangster9981
    @heroicgangster9981 Год назад +9

    I don't have a fatigue for superheroes, BUT I do have a fatigue for Disney+ Marvel shows that always feel like they fall short in being tv shows due to the mini series format. I loved Moon Knight ...... The last episode shows the biggest problem of Disney+ mini series's. And the fact they had to cut down on a whole fight scene that was recorded. Stunts with the actual actors being removed. I'm kinda just tired of the high budget cinema aesthetic holding back superhero shows from being shows. (and it applies to star wars live action shows as well)

  • @fakehappyfilms
    @fakehappyfilms Год назад +1

    You should talk more horror. I loved your Prey review last year and I saw your Letterboxd review for Evil Dead Rise. I'd love to see you go more in depth on that underrated genre!

  • @moviesaredope
    @moviesaredope Год назад

    12:05 hey-oh! One of the best moments from TASM 2

  • @TrendyTrenty
    @TrendyTrenty Год назад

    I love your channel so much, keep putting out good shit like this and you'll have my unrelenting viewership

  • @patrickwhidborne5439
    @patrickwhidborne5439 Год назад

    This is a good video, I’m glad I watched it

  • @nihilismistheonlyway4680
    @nihilismistheonlyway4680 Год назад

    LOVE the hateful 8! watched the "episodes" version at least twice and movie 3 times! never gets old.

  • @joshturner7400
    @joshturner7400 Год назад +3

    Troy, you talked in the past about covering the Scream franchise… please do that! 🤞🏻Especially with the 6th film recently being a hit, would be great to see your takes on the films!

  • @TanmanC
    @TanmanC Год назад

    Love that you shouted out Dungeons and Dragons, it’s such a fun film! I’ve never played it but I really liked it!!

  • @TotallyActing
    @TotallyActing 11 месяцев назад +2

    There’s definitely superhero fatigue, just bc a Spider-Man movie does good doesn’t mean there isn’t superhero fatigue, those characters already have huge fan bases

  • @ZStorm
    @ZStorm Год назад +4

    I would love to see a video on you talking about Netflix and it's weird relationship with animation. Scott Pilgrim the anime was announced and Big Mouth was recently cancelled, would this be a sign for good things to come?

  • @geezburgers
    @geezburgers Год назад +5

    Western superheroes may be oversaturated, but there’s a lot of international hero stories yet to be popularized. Kamen Rider is probably the best example of a long, superhero franchise that has managed to stay fresh for about as long as Spider-Man and the Avengers have. I would suggest checking out any Kamen Rider show.

  • @Danmarinja
    @Danmarinja Год назад +1

    When it turned out that AMATW, a movie I really didn’t like, only contributed ‘Paul Rudd and Evangeline Lilly share a single glance in the finale’ I realised watching movies for homework was a terrible attitude and it’s saved me from watching movies that I’m just not that jazzed to see.

  • @matthewoconnor2628
    @matthewoconnor2628 Год назад +1

    you should make a video about Scream, I know you’re a big fan. A scream 7 Prewrite would be sooooooo cool.

  • @altothesting
    @altothesting Год назад +1

    Still waiting for this dude to do a Scream franchise video

  • @LuckyNapalm
    @LuckyNapalm Год назад +2

    You should cover horror, as you said we’ve just been winning recently

  • @Water_Me_Loan_64_YT
    @Water_Me_Loan_64_YT Год назад +1

    Given how popular the Sonicthe Hedgehog & The Super Mario Bros. Movies were, I feel like the next Popular Movie & TV Genre will be Video Game Adaptations!
    Here’s hoping the Live-Action Minecraft Movie isn't a Trainwreck!

  • @nameless_rambler
    @nameless_rambler Год назад +2

    Please cover Matt Reeves ‘Let Me In’!
    I rewatched it yesterday and it was absolutely phenomenal, it deserves more attention.

  • @breawycker
    @breawycker Год назад

    This video is perfect

  • @zachryder3150
    @zachryder3150 Год назад +2

    The idea that superhero media will see a decline isn't an interesting prediction. What then, it becomes the *second* biggest genre of media on film and television?

  • @youngd7933
    @youngd7933 Год назад +1

    I can 100% support your opinion on this. There were some bad choices made by the heads of Marvel etc that led to some “mid” movies, but I think if those good movies start to roll out again, people will love it.
    And I would love to see some videos about video game design. Especially your recent Daredevil essay was amazing imo :)

  • @calvinboucher5741
    @calvinboucher5741 Год назад

    This was so refreshingly nuanced and uncynical

  • @benjaminwitham8142
    @benjaminwitham8142 Год назад +3

    I think guardians of the galaxy vol 3 and spiderman across the spiderverse will hopefully change the perception of superhero fatigue as these look to be having that extra special something that stands out among the crowd that has kinda been missing from prior superhero films having that emotional resnonace at there core with the characters we go along on this journey with is integral to the experience like what top gun maverick and avatar the way of water successfully was able to achieve

  • @noeysnowy14
    @noeysnowy14 Год назад +3

    I think your right with people not feeling superhero fatigue, but people being tired of bad movies. I think Marvel Studios thought it was impenetrable and could just churn out mediocre stuff and everything would be fine. Turns out that didn’t happen. I just hope marvel starts making good superhero movies again!

  • @liamfitzgerald1400
    @liamfitzgerald1400 Год назад

    Very well said.

  • @richardarmfield6769
    @richardarmfield6769 Год назад +3

    I think the next boom will be animation because the technology is improving continuously and different styles are beginning to surface, eg. Puss in boots had a very unique animation style that made it look almost hand painted, not to mention the Spider-man into the spider verse unique comic book looking approach. The trailer to its sequel shows how the spider verse will incorporate many different artistic animation styles going forward, and as tech improves animation will have close to unlimited potential and I for one can't wait!!

  • @goratuti1098
    @goratuti1098 Год назад +1

    The king is back at it again 🗿

  • @gurshaandhesi
    @gurshaandhesi Год назад +1

    Can’t wait for 2 Morb 2 Furious

  • @jaimeanthony
    @jaimeanthony Год назад

    i’m a huge Resident Evil fan, you talked about horror a couple times… maybe you can talk about the RE movies, games, and remasters?

  • @NATHAN_THE_CRAZY_KID
    @NATHAN_THE_CRAZY_KID Год назад +1

    We need some more sonic representation on this channel

  • @TanmanC
    @TanmanC Год назад

    I’m excited for more of the stand alone super hero films coming up such as Joker 2, Across the Spider Verse and The Batman 2

  • @macmcleod1188
    @macmcleod1188 Год назад

    Antman was "loving father and loving daughter". Plus the fast story telling riff gag. Really made me happy. I've seen 1 and 2 multiple times in theaters.
    The last ant man movie has none of that. Haven't seen it once. Wouldn't event see it for free

  • @wolfmots6278
    @wolfmots6278 Год назад

    I'd love for you to talk about scream. You made a poll about that franchise a bit ago and itd be great to see it come through fruition

  • @TheMediaLover
    @TheMediaLover Год назад

    I think it would be interesting to cover the history of video game movies for a video. It could be really fun

  • @sofiavarela1290
    @sofiavarela1290 Год назад

    So on the end question you asked what not superhero media would be cool to cover, I'd love to hear your take on transformers. While very close to superheroes there's lots of ideas that each cartoon and comic tackles in their own ways. So many people also dismiss the franchise because of toy commercial or bayham movies when stuff like Transformers Animated and IDW's comics but so much passion and heart into their stories. Seeing a channel with a big fallowing like you talk about transformers would mean a lot.

  • @The_Lizard_Wizard
    @The_Lizard_Wizard Год назад

    Maybe do a video on some of your favorite horror games? Personally Resident Evil or Silent Hill would be pretty cool to talk about if you're into those franchises.

  • @brownjordan0523
    @brownjordan0523 Год назад +1

    James Gunn said it best when talking about the idea of superhero fatigue. He said the problem doesn't lie within the genre itself it just lies with how it's presented. people aren't tired of superhero movies they're just tired of movies that have poor lackluster plots. Quality beats quantity every single time. That's why a lot of people unsubscribed to the MCU and started to tune in to more indie superhero comic book related projects like Invincible, The Umbrella Academy and The Boys. those projects have consistant writers that 1.)Understand what type of context they're putting out. and 2.) Put more effort into story and character depth before "the message" in order to provoke positive responses from the vast majority of their audience.

  • @twunt9688
    @twunt9688 Год назад

    I don't know if you see this but I love to see a video were you talk about fallout it one of if not my favourite game of all time

  • @asleepency
    @asleepency Год назад

    This might just be because I saw the Blue Spirit mask in your background but I'd love to see you make something about ATLA, there's a lot going on there with all the new Avatar Studios announcements, and the Netflix series, there's also tons of rewrite potential with something like Korra.

  • @RR75_
    @RR75_ Год назад +1

    man... i never thought of this "super hero movies arent a genre" and you couldnt be more right. I think even the directores that get chosen to make these movies dont get this thats why these recent movies end up feeling kind of the same. anyway, great video, spittin facts!

  • @hyliannerd4541
    @hyliannerd4541 Год назад +27

    I am excited for James Gunn's DC Verse as well as the Across/Beyond the Spider-Verse, as well as a few MCU projects.

  • @Iskelderon
    @Iskelderon 10 месяцев назад

    To me, it's a bit more that people have now seen how wide the quality range can be that they're just skipping the obvious crap, because with the oversaturation of the market you can pick and choose and don't have to take everything you can get.

  • @sketchingstevestudios
    @sketchingstevestudios Год назад +2

    I’d honestly love to see you cover something Godzilla or sonic related if you’re interested

  • @torment4119
    @torment4119 Год назад +3

    2023 looks to be a good year for movies, Super Hero movies too in fact. Apart from Ant-Man and Shazam of course. GOTG3, Rise of the Beasts (I don't think it counts as a super hero movie but whatever, I'm counting it) Blue Beetle and Spider Verse 2 all look to be very promising and hopefully we can ditch Marvel's ridiculous strain on director freedom and get some real director driven Super Hero movies, because when they're done, they really really work.

  • @ollie0998
    @ollie0998 Год назад

    Need a deep dive into the return of good Scream movies

  • @masenguerra7835
    @masenguerra7835 Год назад

    Still hoping we get another fanboy talk podcast

  • @danielgertler5976
    @danielgertler5976 Год назад

    Even the best mcu movie flipping around the genre like cap2 being a spy flick or guardians being a space opera

  • @suto5704
    @suto5704 Год назад +1

    I'd like to see you talk about animated stuff more, like Vinland Saga, Arcane, or whatever animated stuff interests you. Besides animation, videos on stuff like Barry, house of the dragon, or Creed would be cool if that's something you want to talk about

  • @Water_Me_Loan_64_YT
    @Water_Me_Loan_64_YT Год назад +2

    troyoboyo17 should cover the Pokémon Movies & why they are underrated! :D

  • @samtepal3892
    @samtepal3892 9 месяцев назад

    Unforgiven and Tombstone were made in the 90s, by that time many people considered westerns dead, and yet both were like the best films of their year.

  • @izzyc127
    @izzyc127 Год назад

    The only projects that I’m excited for are Across the Spider-Verse and Blue beetle.

  • @gtsep_the_mapper
    @gtsep_the_mapper 10 месяцев назад +2

    We aren't tired of superhero movies we are tired of bad movies

  • @c.a.2945
    @c.a.2945 Год назад

    Nailed it. It's not that we're tired of superheroes, we're tired of bad and lazy writing, hurried productions, synthetic bland visuals and more focus on the next thing rather than the character's we are there to see going through an engaging story.

  • @maxs.5112
    @maxs.5112 Год назад

    The last SuperHero film/show that blown off my socks or might as well had was Invincible.