Sorry to hear of the grief mate. I'll have to check mine out, I don't think they were like that. You're right though, it's a twat to get bits for these, and to compound the issue with the C6 especially, they're an arsehole to work on too! I love my C6, but it's nearly broken me at times, and there will no doubt come a time where I just can't be arsed to fix something. Only flipside for me is that, largely, fixed things seem to stay fixed. I'm quite particular with brands on certain parts, and haven't had any return issues...yet!
As per fb mate, if yours were like this, you'd know. This was as near undrivable as you can get. That's the thing that has pissed me off more than anything with this car, I've bought branded stuff I've used for years without issue on other cars, but bits for this have been shite, I've bought cheap Ebay crap that seems to be better on this car. I feel your pain with the c6 bit at least even when it's broken you can look at it and think 'yup, that's cool as fuck' whereas the c5 looks like a slightly crap German car..
Back in the day i had 2CX and an XM , if i had a pipe burst i would just diggout the coil of pipe and flaring tool from the boot and make a new pipe and bobs your.. I used to work with ja jcb diger and i would just get flexis made up.. I lived in Shetland and ordering parts would take for ever and i needed to be at work tomorrow.. Good luck ps you can burn out the rubber bush and pour a new poly one from a 2k mix..
It's a shed more than a workshop to be honest. I agree though, it had rather turned into a shit hole, I might tidy it up one day if I ever get bored enough...
Most engine issues are fairly easy to diagnose and fix to be fair. Suspension issues are, well, more interesting.. What's wrong with the rack? Leaking pinion?
@@adventuresinrust1644 the original rack was leaking at the pinion and boots. The second hand rack I bought has a slight leak in both boots. Engine issues were seized injectors ended up having to get the head milled and discovered burned pitted valves as well. I modified the pinion housing, sleeved the pinion and coated it in rubberised paint. Then fitted a rack boot over it. Hopefully it will keep it from failing too soon until I can come up with a full solution to the rack. The mk 1 seals are very close. I got the RH bush seal to fit but the internal seal on the left hand side of the rack is just a bit too tight so I am going to get the seal turned down by about half a mm.
Ahh, are you the dude on fcf? I read a post on there about sleeving the pinion with a speedy sleeve which was my original intention. Not heard of many that have had ram seal failure, that's bad luck. Good to see you're persevering with it. I'd be very interested of you find a decent solution to the rack!
@@adventuresinrust1644 yeah that's me. I will find a solution I'm nothing if not persistent.😂 I think you have the same problem as me you can't let it get the better of you.
Pretty much. Although stubbornness has oftentimes been a bad move on my part! Hope you find a solution that works, you could be very very popular with the c5 community!
It had a bang in the osf corner years ago yes, and had the incorrect arm fitted. However, I've had rhw subframe out twice since then and set the whole thing up with lasers so I know it's all square and exactly as it should be.. There's just something weird about it.
I thought the same, it's a logical answer, but it's all square and accurate. It would appear that rear camber issues are quite common with these though, I'm still trying to work out why! I'm currently reasoning it's because it's French!
In retrospect, I should have bailed a year ago when it became apparent that parts supply was naff all. I'm actually, for my sons, looking at volvo v70s at the moment....
Ah, Chris - this one bought a V70D5 as a kind if of stop gap disposable car, when my last Saab died, and will recommend without hesitation. This one figures you will not be disappointed. I fell in love with it and still had it four years' later. My stepdaughter later took her on, for a few more years when stepdad gave her the car, as her needs musted (it's what great stepdads do 😁 ). Decent build quality, too, and never needed more than servicing and comestibles after initially bringing up to scratch. It would soldier on today, but for being written off following severe accident damage (their fault) - which is another story. On the strength of this - said stepdaughter now has an XC90.
I'm looking at auto petrol for ulez shit, but yeah, I liked old volvos, not had much to do with more modern ones, but they seem to be well built. Ideally, I'd like to get my red BX back as a daily driver, but that needs everything doing...
Made some shims up, got decent compression on the Bush, but that just limited the throw, the arm still had lateral movement from the bush. They're just no good.
I think you've missed my point. It's not the car that's crap, it's the lack of parts, and the quality of parts you can get. And whichever way you nut cut it, the engineering in many of the original factory parts is shite. I've been working on citroens for near 30 years, and not one has the inherent engineering problems that the x7 has, and not one was ever addressed by psa or Stellantis. Considering they were still being made in China until 2 years ago there's zero excuse that as far back as 2019 over here not one single hydraulic pipe was available. So no, the car could be great, but it will never be because of zero parts availability for parts that were substandard from factory.
Happy New Year Indeed.
Sorry to hear of the grief mate. I'll have to check mine out, I don't think they were like that. You're right though, it's a twat to get bits for these, and to compound the issue with the C6 especially, they're an arsehole to work on too! I love my C6, but it's nearly broken me at times, and there will no doubt come a time where I just can't be arsed to fix something.
Only flipside for me is that, largely, fixed things seem to stay fixed. I'm quite particular with brands on certain parts, and haven't had any return issues...yet!
As per fb mate, if yours were like this, you'd know.
This was as near undrivable as you can get.
That's the thing that has pissed me off more than anything with this car, I've bought branded stuff I've used for years without issue on other cars, but bits for this have been shite, I've bought cheap Ebay crap that seems to be better on this car.
I feel your pain with the c6 bit at least even when it's broken you can look at it and think 'yup, that's cool as fuck' whereas the c5 looks like a slightly crap German car..
Back in the day i had 2CX and an XM , if i had a pipe burst i would just diggout the coil of pipe and flaring tool from the boot and make a new pipe and bobs your.. I used to work with ja jcb diger and i would just get flexis made up.. I lived in Shetland and ordering parts would take for ever and i needed to be at work tomorrow.. Good luck ps you can burn out the rubber bush and pour a new poly one from a 2k mix..
I have owned a couple of workshops in my time but never seen any as untidy as yours, how on earth can you work in that?
It's a shed more than a workshop to be honest. I agree though, it had rather turned into a shit hole, I might tidy it up one day if I ever get bored enough...
@@adventuresinrust1644 See its not just me!!!!!
Currently thinking about if I want to watch this video. I love my C5 and I would like it to stay that way. 😅
I wouldn't watch it then!
Actually, I wouldn't watch it anyway, it's very dull.
I loved my c5 once...
@@adventuresinrust1644 haha
I bought mine last November and I still haven't driven it as a daily driver because of problems with suspension engine and steering rack.
Most engine issues are fairly easy to diagnose and fix to be fair.
Suspension issues are, well, more interesting..
What's wrong with the rack? Leaking pinion?
@@adventuresinrust1644 the original rack was leaking at the pinion and boots. The second hand rack I bought has a slight leak in both boots. Engine issues were seized injectors ended up having to get the head milled and discovered burned pitted valves as well. I modified the pinion housing, sleeved the pinion and coated it in rubberised paint. Then fitted a rack boot over it. Hopefully it will keep it from failing too soon until I can come up with a full solution to the rack. The mk 1 seals are very close. I got the RH bush seal to fit but the internal seal on the left hand side of the rack is just a bit too tight so I am going to get the seal turned down by about half a mm.
Ahh, are you the dude on fcf?
I read a post on there about sleeving the pinion with a speedy sleeve which was my original intention.
Not heard of many that have had ram seal failure, that's bad luck.
Good to see you're persevering with it. I'd be very interested of you find a decent solution to the rack!
@@adventuresinrust1644 yeah that's me. I will find a solution I'm nothing if not persistent.😂 I think you have the same problem as me you can't let it get the better of you.
Pretty much. Although stubbornness has oftentimes been a bad move on my part!
Hope you find a solution that works, you could be very very popular with the c5 community!
I wonder was it crashed before you owned it.
It had a bang in the osf corner years ago yes, and had the incorrect arm fitted.
However, I've had rhw subframe out twice since then and set the whole thing up with lasers so I know it's all square and exactly as it should be.. There's just something weird about it.
It was just a thought maybe it was off square somewhere.
I thought the same, it's a logical answer, but it's all square and accurate. It would appear that rear camber issues are quite common with these though, I'm still trying to work out why! I'm currently reasoning it's because it's French!
You might be on to something there alright. French explains a lot with these
I'm up to about 4k in parts and it's just that they failed.
Oh bugger, Chris.
Is it time to bale out?
In retrospect, I should have bailed a year ago when it became apparent that parts supply was naff all.
I'm actually, for my sons, looking at volvo v70s at the moment....
Ah, Chris - this one bought a V70D5 as a kind if of stop gap disposable car, when my last Saab died, and will recommend without hesitation. This one figures you will not be disappointed.
I fell in love with it and still had it four years' later. My stepdaughter later took her on, for a few more years when stepdad gave her the car, as her needs musted (it's what great stepdads do 😁 ). Decent build quality, too, and never needed more than servicing and comestibles after initially bringing up to scratch. It would soldier on today, but for being written off following severe accident damage (their fault) - which is another story. On the strength of this - said stepdaughter now has an XC90.
I'm looking at auto petrol for ulez shit, but yeah, I liked old volvos, not had much to do with more modern ones, but they seem to be well built.
Ideally, I'd like to get my red BX back as a daily driver, but that needs everything doing...
@@adventuresinrust1644 - good man, and guilty, secret pleasure 😉.
Ours was a 2003 P2, and this one's first diesel!
I still like diesel, but alas our mayor doesn't...
Although I'd much rather have an old skool pure mechanical diesel with no ecu's,
Penny washers.... Lots of penny washers to shim it out
Made some shims up, got decent compression on the Bush, but that just limited the throw, the arm still had lateral movement from the bush. They're just no good.
You have to leave problems where they belong. Just leave it to a proper Citroen specialist! These cars are no crap.
I think you've missed my point. It's not the car that's crap, it's the lack of parts, and the quality of parts you can get.
And whichever way you nut cut it, the engineering in many of the original factory parts is shite.
I've been working on citroens for near 30 years, and not one has the inherent engineering problems that the x7 has, and not one was ever addressed by psa or Stellantis.
Considering they were still being made in China until 2 years ago there's zero excuse that as far back as 2019 over here not one single hydraulic pipe was available.
So no, the car could be great, but it will never be because of zero parts availability for parts that were substandard from factory.
err Chris is a Citroen specialist. He learnt his trade at a very well respected Citroen specialist and is very well regarded in Citroen car clubs.