Maybe not a collection, but I'd buy them individually on a digital shop. They may be bad, but I'd be down to experience them in a way that doesn't bankrupt me.
2:33 "What is this supposed remaster that comes with Shadow Generations doing?" Sonic x Shadow Generations is: - Giving a FULL native 4K, as in pixel perfect 4K, not a 720p picture being pushed out through a 4K signal. - Giving a real 60FPS upgrade that doesn't break the game's physics like the FPS Boost does for both Generations and Unleashed. - Updated textures and UI elements so that the UI and textures don't look pixelated and grainy on 4K TVs anymore. - Packaging the game with the pre-order DLC that hasn't been available to download since the game came out on consoles. - Allowing the game to be played on modern platforms (Switch, PS4, PS5) - Allows original Xbox One/S/X owners to play Sonic Generations in 60FPS because FPS Boost doesn't work on the Xbox One, only the Series' consoles. - Plays the game natively off of the hardware and take full advantage of the system capabilities, as opposed to a built-in 360 emulator that doesn't take full advantage of either the Xbox One or the Series' consoles. You don't just drop a game in an emulator and call it a remaster. Nintendo did that with Mario 3D All Stars and you all crucified them for it. If you can drop the 360 disc in the modern platform and play the 360 version of a game, it's not a remaster, it's the 360 version being played on better hardware. Also HDR isn't in the original PC release (it's also a bad port even by 2011 standards. It just doesn't require a beefy computer to run). And running the game at higher than 60FPS (something that even Colors Ultimate got right) breaks the game.
You’re spot on with the PC port. I definitely won’t be spending $60 on a game I already have on Steam, but it would be nice to have a PC version I didn’t need to smack with a wrench to get it playing every other time I launch it.
For clarity sake, Generations on Series X doesn’t upscale 720p to 4K (unlike Unleashed, which runs at 880x720 upscaled to 4K). Generations runs natively at 3520x2160 on One X / Series X, and at 1760x1440 on Series S
Honestly... I'd still rather have 60fps and better visuals and tolerate one broken shortcut and Sonic 1 not working, which I never played anyway... But terrible remaster? Not anywhere near.
This is obviously gonna be fixed with a update for day 1 of the game or maybe later on,but it's literally just 2 small issues,it of course is gonna get fixed easily by a update
@@JoseArmandoSaint-HilaireAcostawe can't know for sure if those problems will be fixed. Minus sonic 1 being broken, because it won't be in the remaster
I don't really see a reason for this video to exist other than to point out these 2 bugs, it doesn't outright ruin many's experience with the game so... also truly a bummer they probably will never patch these bugs out but eh, what're you gonna do?
Also I played this and this is the 2nd best version of sonic generations because of 4k 60 and quick resume, It might even be better than the pc port without mods
No work was done by Sega for this as it was apart of Xbox's backwards compatibility program. There's not much Xbox could of done for those few issues without changing game code which was off the table for the program. For anyone without a pc, it's 100 percent worth having a broken shortcut and unplayable Sonic 1 so you can have 60 fps as it's a game changer.
tbh the pc version of gens out of the box is HORRIBLY unoptimized without mods like better fxpipeline and direct3d 11, so having something like that oob is very valuable to people who can’t/don’t want to mod. i can run gens on intel hd graphics by downscaling the game drastically, with the only real downside being that it looks like i took my glasses off lmao
3:20. No. Generation's PC port is unironcally one of the absolute worst ports of that era. It is hilariously, horribly made and its held together by duct tape and prayers. The most insane example of this is that turning on the enhanced Unleashed shaders (AKA Unleashed Pipeline) to improve how several sections of the game look (+make it compatible with the Unleashed Project) actually makes the game run significantly better..for some reason. Also, the CPZ bug is also just there on PC too. Weird thing is that it only happened after I updated my setup, but still.
Yeah, Generations pc port was a bit messy. Not only is the icon boring as hell, but the configuration feels so clunky to use, I can't even use any controllers in the game.
The Chemical Plant bug ONLY HAPPENS when u check the "fix imput delay during arbitrary framerates" in hedgemodmanager. My guess is that whoever ported Gens to the xbox did a similar fix to the imput delay, which caused the chemical plant section to break.
1. Makes a video talking about a remaster with the main selling point of having 60FPS 2. Records footage of said version 3. Uploads the video at 30FPS Pup, what're ya doin'?
@@ChannelPup I can understand that if you're making a film, but this is a video mostly *about* game performance. What you're saying is the equivalent of making a video about color choices in games, but intentionally uploading the video in shades of beige because you're a dog. (Obviously I know dogs can see some colors, notably blue, but you get my point.)
@@ChannelPup No wonder all your videos look like powerpoint presentations, Never ever will you see a professional convert 60/30fps videos into 24 because it does not evenly divide and creates awful jidder, Unless its made to slow it down, it looks rubbish. You can animate and record yourself at 24fps if you wish but leave the gameplay at 60 and export it at 60fps.
SEGA never released these. Microsoft edited these files themselves, sega can't do anything about it when sonic generations was already released on the xbox 360 store. The games are AI upscaled to 4k and are interpolated to 60fps, with microsoft software. Edit: And if you don't like it, you can disable it!
I just wanna say, for the longest time as a kid I could have sworn I had bought the super peel out in Generations, but I could never activate it, and never saw it again. Could never find anything about it on the wiki. But now I can see at 9:31 that it's infinite continues, which is such a relief to now know.
I would also like to point out that the bug in chemical plant zone is the only bug that he mentioned. If he pointed out that there were more bugs throughout this port, then I would get the main theme of the video, but there's only one bug mentioned (or 2 if you consider the halved framework for sonic 1, which again is weird considering it runs perfectly fine). No disrespect to channel pup tho, I just found these weird things about this whole video.
2:05 sega released this? is this not part of Microsoft's back compat team's work? microsoft had a whole team that did this for a lot of x360 games for series X
bro istg the chemical plant glitch is also in the 360 version its just that instead of happening 95% of the time its like 0.5% I had gotten this glitch many times before even getting a series x
@@FastbenSupremoo It's not a remake, a remake is made from the ground-up. SXSG is just enhancing the base game. Channel pup even mentions the fact that it's a remaster at 0:49.
Sonic 1 running at half speed is definitely a you thing. It is not a universal problem. It has always ran completely fine for me. (I'm playing it on my Xbox Series S) I even tested it again just to make sure.
If you do play this one at 4K, all of the text corrupts. Instead of the Zone name, it's just random symbols, like the font got switched to Wing Dings or something.
Series FPS boost wasn't done by SEGA. It's always been advertised as an Xbox program. Only issues I experienced after about 40 hours of gameplay was Sonic 1 emulation being poor, and 1 swing in Chemical Plant crashing. Otherwise it's a phenomenal FPS patch. Again, it's an Xbox job, SEGA just licensed the game.
I managed to 100% the game this way! The Chemical Plant thing and Sonic 1 stuff sucked, but the main stage S ranks aren't hard to get regardless. And, like you stated, there are multiple other ways to play Sonic 1.
I actually own both Unleashed and Generations on Series X and the issues with Generations weren’t there before. For the longest time it ran perfectly. Overall though I find these backwards compatible options to be really good especially for Unleashed. It’s why I’m not sure if I’ll get Sonic x Shadow when it comes out.
I mean it's not a remaster. It's literally the 360 version running in backwards compatibility. A remaster would be a port onto the system. Plus it was done by Xbox themselves. You can also turn off FPS boost on the game if that's causing issues too
In sky sanctuary zone with modern sonic. At the zip lines, if you try to take the shortcut but homing attack to the same zip line you just got off, it will kill you.
There's also a rainbow ring in one of Sonic Unleashed's DLC levels that breaks when you have the FPS Boost turned on. It's the rainbow ring at the end of Rooftops Run Day Act 5, and instead of it sending you to the goal ring like it's supposed to do, you end up not reaching the goal ring and falling to your death.
Bugs in remastered games that never exist in the original versions, Digital Deluxe scams, butchered graphics in ports of Sonic Adventure, Adventure 2 and Colors and letting Sonic 06 released unfinished letting it begin the Dark age of Sonic! Your welcome!
What's weird is that chemical plant glitch happens on PC too. Just differently. At least for me. When I play it and take that shortcut the camera doesn't change like it's supposed to. And stays extremely pulled back in 2.5D. So the last 20-30 seconds of the stage from that pully onward need to be played from a mid point camera perspective between 3D and 2D that doesn't change at any point for the remainer of the stage. But still plays in full 3d control. Just the camera is fucked. Idk how or why. But it does. Lol. Try if for yourself and see if it happens to you. I'm curious
It's because the game isn't meant to be played at more than 30FPS. Higher framerates break the games physics, it's just harder to notice at 60FPS than say 120. Luckily the remaster aims to fix this.
@@Essu_ yeah for sure. It's just odd to me that gens would be the kind of game to rely on framerate for stuff to work. You usually only see that in Bethesda games or really old games. Like in Skyrim where if you uncap the framerate the game itself runs at double speed or higher. Everything is way too fast. Animations, walking speed. All that. But most games since the 2000s aren't like that and framerate doesn't usually effect anything unless they chose to tie something to framerate. Like you play a game on PC. Uncap framerate on any game. Usually works just perfectly. Just odd to be gens would fall into that
8:27 while on my sisters acc, I still can explain 8:27. The mega drive games had animation that ran on specific frames. The boost without optimisation means it tries to read in between frames by moving an alleged rig to look smooth. But the classic games have no rig, thus doubling each frame. The game doubling each frame means it’s half the speed, and I’m pretty sure the sound corresponds to frames, also being doubled in length.
I want to point out that also PC players benefit from SxSG as the external configuration manager the original game has is completely awful. Sometimes the game just won't launch anymore because the game falsely tells you something about GPU issues. Also you cannot connect a controller when you're ingame. The ingame options also don't have much options to customize the game. There is a chance that SxSG also runs on a newer graphics API of DirectX. Sonic Generations is using the ancient, unsupported and issue causing DirectX 9. Generally the new version of the game will be much more optimized than the current awful PC version. A lot of people are saying the remaster is useless, but on a technical side it is VERY needed.
If they had sonic generations have sonic the hedgehog playable for free, in shadow generations, they should let you play shadow the hedgehog for free too.
@@rayvenkman2087 SA2 is already backwards compatible on Series X/S and you can just mod it on PC to have a better framerate I'd rather have Shadow 2005 as a reward tbh
I’m ok with the shortcut not working at least you can still beat the level! And that shortcut didn’t really skip any of the level it was just taking you the same way at a faster pace!
is loosing the old emulated version of sonic 1 such a bad thing? especially with emulation on literally every hand held device now? nah it wont be missed really. what needs to land is the shadow stuff. if sega screws up on that, then they are in trouble, especially with the failure that is sonic colors definitive.
We already got the Sonic Turds Collection, it was called Sonic Origins. Although to be fair, they turned good games into turds rather than releasing the actual turds.
The definition of of making a mountain of an ant hill thus this video is a nothing burger video to bash small boosts for a game for a new and old owners of gens on xbox series consoles and owners that was just done by xbox to encourage more backwards compatibility
I mean, they're releasing a Bubsy collection next year with Bubsy 3D included. A bad Sonic game compilation wouldn't exactly be too farfetched of an idea.
I don't know why nobody talks about this but sega released MANY and i mean MANY ps3 sonic games on the PS Now which got changed to ps plus but with less games, i think they released every sonic game except sonic 06 and sega tennis game, yeah, even sonic the fighters and sonic 4 episode 1 and 2, unleashed and SA1 and 2!
How about nintendo switch has the gamecube version, Playstation have the ps2 version, Xbox consoles has the og Xbox version, and I think pc has a dreamcast controller
If you have a GameCube, Wii or Xbox, I'd go with the Xbox or GameCube version. The PS2 version has half the target frame rate, lots of drops and worse visuals similar to Sonic Heroes for PS2. There's also a hack for GameCube called Shadow Reloaded that has a bunch of improvements over the original.
It turns out, you're completely right my guy! It was confirmed that Sonic 1 will NOT be in Sonic X Shadow Generations. Go figure. I mean, sadly it makes sense. After all, Sega did discontinue the original Sonic 1 from being downloadable because of Sonic Origins. Although, it's not the end of the world. You can still play the OG Sonic 1 from the Sega Classic Collection on PS4 and such. And if you're really lucky like me, we can still play Sonic 1 from the Mega Collection!
I don’t have an Xbox Series X or S, but I have an Xbox One, so no 60fps boost unfortunately. I just like being able to play Unleashed again :) But hey I can play OG generations on my Xbox One without the fps boost, and thus, without any of the issues pointed out in this video lmao
@@Sydney_Angelyt I know that, but it just still makes me mad that the original version of these games we will get the listed in certain things might not show up
I did not know this existed. I knew they released the original game on modern Platforms and the framerate was abysmal to put it mildly. Glad I bought it on PC instead.
It's an old game development strategy to have the game logic be calculated on each frame. Newer games tend to try and standardize game logic regardless of framerate, but older games almost always did this, which is why Sonic 1 at double the framerate runs at half the speed. If you want a funny example of this elsewhere Bethesda still has their gamespeed tied to framerate, so boosting your framerate makes your character move faster Fallout 76 players would look at the floor so they had to render less stuff, boosting their framerate, and making their character faster Another fun example of this old tradition The logic for homing spells in Dark Souls is tied to framerate, so the remaster that boosted the framerate without changing the logic caused a massive decrease in the accuracy of homing spells
What're the chances that i just finished replaying sonic generations on the series x and this video releases. Part of me is happy tho that at the very least unleashed got some good treatment this time round
I played this version first and it's completely fine for me. Maybe it's because I played it on Xbox one instead of a series X or S but I think it does run in 60fps.
Ah, yes, 2 easily avoidable issues that take little to avoid and are unnecessary to enjoy the game, really does make this enhanced port with better visuals and framerate. Terrible, not adgitating or disappointing, just straight up terrible. I think this guy is stretching for content
I don’t think Sonic Unleashed ever received a resolution boost for the Xbox Series consoles. I’m pretty sure the only reason Generations has a resolution boost is due to it being enhanced for the Xbox One X. The only thing the Xbox Series consoles do for Unleashed and Generations is give them both a boosted frame rate and Auto HDR support. But I could be mistaken.
In no way is this a remaster or even a new version in general, it is literally just how 360 games are played on the Xbox Series consoles. Every 360 game is like this, it's literally just basic backwards compatibility. nothing in the actual game itself was changed, just a bump from the CONSOLE ITSELF.
Would you buy the Sonic Turds Collection?
Not for 60 dollars
Just add sonic 06 Sonic chronicles (some how) and Sonic free riders and make it 40 dollars
Maybe not a collection, but I'd buy them individually on a digital shop. They may be bad, but I'd be down to experience them in a way that doesn't bankrupt me.
Definitely 😄
Out of morbid curiosity, yes.
I would totally buy a collection of the worst Sonic games "Sonic Turds Collection" 😄 That's a weirdly fun idea
Then the new generation can suffer just like the past generation.
lol it is a very interesting idea but would it sell well?
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2:33
"What is this supposed remaster that comes with Shadow Generations doing?"
Sonic x Shadow Generations is:
- Giving a FULL native 4K, as in pixel perfect 4K, not a 720p picture being pushed out through a 4K signal.
- Giving a real 60FPS upgrade that doesn't break the game's physics like the FPS Boost does for both Generations and Unleashed.
- Updated textures and UI elements so that the UI and textures don't look pixelated and grainy on 4K TVs anymore.
- Packaging the game with the pre-order DLC that hasn't been available to download since the game came out on consoles.
- Allowing the game to be played on modern platforms (Switch, PS4, PS5)
- Allows original Xbox One/S/X owners to play Sonic Generations in 60FPS because FPS Boost doesn't work on the Xbox One, only the Series' consoles.
- Plays the game natively off of the hardware and take full advantage of the system capabilities, as opposed to a built-in 360 emulator that doesn't take full advantage of either the Xbox One or the Series' consoles.
You don't just drop a game in an emulator and call it a remaster. Nintendo did that with Mario 3D All Stars and you all crucified them for it. If you can drop the 360 disc in the modern platform and play the 360 version of a game, it's not a remaster, it's the 360 version being played on better hardware.
Also HDR isn't in the original PC release (it's also a bad port even by 2011 standards. It just doesn't require a beefy computer to run). And running the game at higher than 60FPS (something that even Colors Ultimate got right) breaks the game.
You’re spot on with the PC port. I definitely won’t be spending $60 on a game I already have on Steam, but it would be nice to have a PC version I didn’t need to smack with a wrench to get it playing every other time I launch it.
Shh don't tell him that it would render this video for what it is a nothing burger and you will be called a toxic positive fan
For clarity sake, Generations on Series X doesn’t upscale 720p to 4K (unlike Unleashed, which runs at 880x720 upscaled to 4K).
Generations runs natively at 3520x2160 on One X / Series X, and at 1760x1440 on Series S
Bro stfu, I ain't paying $50 when I already own $20 of the product.
This video was just meant as a joke. Don't worry, buddy old pal.@blinkyy4594
4:24 “GiVe Us ThE lOw FrAmE rAtE cUt!”
After seeing people go out of their way to defend the knuckles show i can actually picture people asking for that
I want to play sonic unleashed on a slideshow presentation frame rate! Make it happen Sega!
Hello Sonic Multiverse guy!
Honestly... I'd still rather have 60fps and better visuals and tolerate one broken shortcut and Sonic 1 not working, which I never played anyway... But terrible remaster? Not anywhere near.
This is obviously gonna be fixed with a update for day 1 of the game or maybe later on,but it's literally just 2 small issues,it of course is gonna get fixed easily by a update
@@JoseArmandoSaint-HilaireAcostabut 3 years have passed and they still haven't done anything about it
@@playbossthebest936 where gonna get updated versions for sonic and shadow generation
@@JoseArmandoSaint-HilaireAcostawe can't know for sure if those problems will be fixed. Minus sonic 1 being broken, because it won't be in the remaster
Sonic fans being sonic fans hating sonic for existing
Definitely didn't comment this before watching the video
Ok
@@iceicicle3046Even if he did watch the full video before he made this comment, he was right, and so am I!
Yeah because sonic sucks and even the fans know it why do the games never sell well then?
@@iceicicle3046 I meant it as a joke
I don't really see a reason for this video to exist other than to point out these 2 bugs, it doesn't outright ruin many's experience with the game so...
also truly a bummer they probably will never patch these bugs out but eh, what're you gonna do?
Shh don't say anything or your a toxic positive fan for giving criticism that inadvertently renders this video redundant
If these 2 bugs bother him that much he can simply turn off fps boost and play at 30 fps lol.
THANK YOU for sparing me from wasting my time watching this 😭
The sonic 1 glitch got patched I'm sure and you can get rid of it by closing the game
Also I played this and this is the 2nd best version of sonic generations because of 4k 60 and quick resume,
It might even be better than the pc port without mods
No work was done by Sega for this as it was apart of Xbox's backwards compatibility program. There's not much Xbox could of done for those few issues without changing game code which was off the table for the program. For anyone without a pc, it's 100 percent worth having a broken shortcut and unplayable Sonic 1 so you can have 60 fps as it's a game changer.
It's still playable. Slowing down has a simple cure. Simply close and reopen the game. His blatant statements that it's unplayable annoy me.
You see that required actual research so you know that's not necessary to him
tbh the pc version of gens out of the box is HORRIBLY unoptimized without mods like better fxpipeline and direct3d 11, so having something like that oob is very valuable to people who can’t/don’t want to mod. i can run gens on intel hd graphics by downscaling the game drastically, with the only real downside being that it looks like i took my glasses off lmao
3:20.
No.
Generation's PC port is unironcally one of the absolute worst ports of that era. It is hilariously, horribly made and its held together by duct tape and prayers. The most insane example of this is that turning on the enhanced Unleashed shaders (AKA Unleashed Pipeline) to improve how several sections of the game look (+make it compatible with the Unleashed Project) actually makes the game run significantly better..for some reason.
Also, the CPZ bug is also just there on PC too. Weird thing is that it only happened after I updated my setup, but still.
Yeah, Generations pc port was a bit messy.
Not only is the icon boring as hell, but the configuration feels so clunky to use, I can't even use any controllers in the game.
I never had issues with the port on pc. But ig I originally played it on the 3ds so take that as u will
I think I'm missing something because, really? the worst?
@@turbobist2889 For the controller you have to select controller for the control scheme when launching the config
The Chemical Plant bug ONLY HAPPENS when u check the "fix imput delay during arbitrary framerates" in hedgemodmanager. My guess is that whoever ported Gens to the xbox did a similar fix to the imput delay, which caused the chemical plant section to break.
1. Makes a video talking about a remaster with the main selling point of having 60FPS
2. Records footage of said version
3. Uploads the video at 30FPS
Pup, what're ya doin'?
23.9fps is the framerate of non-interactive media, and I will not budge on that. I'm a traditionalist where it counts. 😂
@@ChannelPup I can understand that if you're making a film, but this is a video mostly *about* game performance.
What you're saying is the equivalent of making a video about color choices in games, but intentionally uploading the video in shades of beige because you're a dog. (Obviously I know dogs can see some colors, notably blue, but you get my point.)
@@ChannelPup No wonder all your videos look like powerpoint presentations, Never ever will you see a professional convert 60/30fps videos into 24 because it does not evenly divide and creates awful jidder, Unless its made to slow it down, it looks rubbish.
You can animate and record yourself at 24fps if you wish but leave the gameplay at 60 and export it at 60fps.
@@SantiagoMonroy5😭😭😭
SEGA never released these. Microsoft edited these files themselves, sega can't do anything about it when sonic generations was already released on the xbox 360 store. The games are AI upscaled to 4k and are interpolated to 60fps, with microsoft software.
Edit: And if you don't like it, you can disable it!
Ah yes, I remember Antdude taking like, 5 seconds to point this out when he covered this.
I just wanna say, for the longest time as a kid I could have sworn I had bought the super peel out in Generations, but I could never activate it, and never saw it again. Could never find anything about it on the wiki. But now I can see at 9:31 that it's infinite continues, which is such a relief to now know.
Regarding the emulated version of Sonic 1, I haven't had the game be slowed down despite using FPS boost so I have no idea how this happened to you
Same, I was genuinely confused when I got to that point of the video. The game runs just fine.
I would also like to point out that the bug in chemical plant zone is the only bug that he mentioned. If he pointed out that there were more bugs throughout this port, then I would get the main theme of the video, but there's only one bug mentioned (or 2 if you consider the halved framework for sonic 1, which again is weird considering it runs perfectly fine). No disrespect to channel pup tho, I just found these weird things about this whole video.
yeah idk what is wrong with his version mine works fine too
It happens if you leave the game suspended too long
@@UltraSTH oh well that's unfortunate
2:05 sega released this? is this not part of Microsoft's back compat team's work?
microsoft had a whole team that did this for a lot of x360 games for series X
Interesting! Now that is hard to call! If that's the case then Sega are absolved in this instance. 😂
What you mean? That Sonic 1 emulation is running just fine! Just like the original on GBA!
Lmao true
bro istg the chemical plant glitch is also in the 360 version its just that instead of happening 95% of the time its like 0.5% I had gotten this glitch many times before even getting a series x
Iizuka already confirmed the Sonic 1 emulator won't be in SxS.
It's Joever.
@@ChannelPupGot to make people buy Sonic Origins
It was a cool little extra but honestly who cares? Are we pretending we don't already have 10 other ways to play Sonic 1?
@@IllusiveDev I do not care in the slightest, no.
For a second I thought you're talking about Sonic X Shadow Generations 😂😂
Thats a remake
@@FastbenSupremoo Uhhh no it isn't...
@@FastbenSupremoo It's not a remake, a remake is made from the ground-up. SXSG is just enhancing the base game. Channel pup even mentions the fact that it's a remaster at 0:49.
Same lol 😆
@@PotatoSweet-gi3mb No, if it have new content it is a remake. A remaster changes only the graphics and stuff, it doesnt add anything
Sonic 1 running at half speed is definitely a you thing. It is not a universal problem. It has always ran completely fine for me. (I'm playing it on my Xbox Series S) I even tested it again just to make sure.
11 minutes to talk about two bugs, rent may have been due
This video is a joke.
If you do play this one at 4K, all of the text corrupts. Instead of the Zone name, it's just random symbols, like the font got switched to Wing Dings or something.
Oh my god.
@@WebstersRUclips it happened at random but it eventually fix itself
Series FPS boost wasn't done by SEGA. It's always been advertised as an Xbox program.
Only issues I experienced after about 40 hours of gameplay was Sonic 1 emulation being poor, and 1 swing in Chemical Plant crashing. Otherwise it's a phenomenal FPS patch.
Again, it's an Xbox job, SEGA just licensed the game.
Thanks for the info there!
This was very open and obvious information idk how you missed this during writing and during research?
@@ChannelPup it's easily missed info, but there was more discussion about it when it first happened.
@@AceNXIt’s really not easily missed. 10 second google search would have gave him the answer.
@@ChannelPup And yet you're still calling it a remaster.
I managed to 100% the game this way! The Chemical Plant thing and Sonic 1 stuff sucked, but the main stage S ranks aren't hard to get regardless. And, like you stated, there are multiple other ways to play Sonic 1.
I'm really gonna do it this time I hate Sonic social media
I actually own both Unleashed and Generations on Series X and the issues with Generations weren’t there before. For the longest time it ran perfectly. Overall though I find these backwards compatible options to be really good especially for Unleashed. It’s why I’m not sure if I’ll get Sonic x Shadow when it comes out.
I wish they could re-release the limited edition figurine.
I mean it's not a remaster. It's literally the 360 version running in backwards compatibility. A remaster would be a port onto the system. Plus it was done by Xbox themselves. You can also turn off FPS boost on the game if that's causing issues too
Bro scared us for a sec
In sky sanctuary zone with modern sonic. At the zip lines, if you try to take the shortcut but homing attack to the same zip line you just got off, it will kill you.
Most of this can be fixed by turning off FPS boost
Ah, good ol' Pup. Classic clickbaiting girlboss as always.
I never had any problems when playing it on my series X
Neither have I
Imagine shadow 06 replaces the OG sonic 1 game on consoles
7:43
This is literally what it sounds like when I emulate these games on my Chromebook.
7:56 This Sonic 1 emulations does this sometimes, not always, and it is easy to fix it by exiting out Sonic Generations and reopening it
Ngl I’m pretty sure the 4K resolution upgrade can’t be seen because all the footage is set to 1080p because of RUclips’s compression system
Maybe it's just me, but there's these weird bugs when playing the egg dragoon boss fight in sonic generations where I just straight up can't hit bro
Yeah, we're not getting that emulated Sonic 1 in Sonadow Generations.
or are we?
I wish Dylan was a good friend.
@@ChannelPup I wish Dylan was a good friend.
Bro ong took 10 minutes to show that the game has 2 minor glitches and calls it a "terrible remaster" 🙏💀💀
There's also a rainbow ring in one of Sonic Unleashed's DLC levels that breaks when you have the FPS Boost turned on. It's the rainbow ring at the end of Rooftops Run Day Act 5, and instead of it sending you to the goal ring like it's supposed to do, you end up not reaching the goal ring and falling to your death.
Would Sonic Turds Collection include 06? Because I think that game would be good if you take out the rushedness.
Annoying dog yaps about nonsense for 10 minutes
SEGA: why cant sonic fans appreciate anything?
Bugs in remastered games that never exist in the original versions, Digital Deluxe scams, butchered graphics in ports of Sonic Adventure, Adventure 2 and Colors and letting Sonic 06 released unfinished letting it begin the Dark age of Sonic! Your welcome!
6:42 please tell me it ain't so...
What's weird is that chemical plant glitch happens on PC too. Just differently. At least for me. When I play it and take that shortcut the camera doesn't change like it's supposed to. And stays extremely pulled back in 2.5D. So the last 20-30 seconds of the stage from that pully onward need to be played from a mid point camera perspective between 3D and 2D that doesn't change at any point for the remainer of the stage. But still plays in full 3d control. Just the camera is fucked. Idk how or why. But it does. Lol. Try if for yourself and see if it happens to you. I'm curious
I noticed that myself, although it's inconsistent. Doesn't happen every time. I wonder what's up with that shortcut.
It's because the game isn't meant to be played at more than 30FPS. Higher framerates break the games physics, it's just harder to notice at 60FPS than say 120.
Luckily the remaster aims to fix this.
@@Essu_ yeah for sure. It's just odd to me that gens would be the kind of game to rely on framerate for stuff to work. You usually only see that in Bethesda games or really old games. Like in Skyrim where if you uncap the framerate the game itself runs at double speed or higher. Everything is way too fast. Animations, walking speed. All that. But most games since the 2000s aren't like that and framerate doesn't usually effect anything unless they chose to tie something to framerate. Like you play a game on PC. Uncap framerate on any game. Usually works just perfectly. Just odd to be gens would fall into that
6:00 and no one spoke about it. I thought there was just something wrong with my copy 💀
I got scared there for a moment.
I will not stand for this Sonic 2 SMS slander, its a perfectly fun game and I'd still play it sooner than Heroes
Imagine if Izuka said he wanted to improve the game, you see comments saying
“Why is he so negative of Sonic he sold a lot of games”
8:27 while on my sisters acc, I still can explain 8:27.
The mega drive games had animation that ran on specific frames. The boost without optimisation means it tries to read in between frames by moving an alleged rig to look smooth. But the classic games have no rig, thus doubling each frame. The game doubling each frame means it’s half the speed, and I’m pretty sure the sound corresponds to frames, also being doubled in length.
I want to point out that also PC players benefit from SxSG as the external configuration manager the original game has is completely awful. Sometimes the game just won't launch anymore because the game falsely tells you something about GPU issues. Also you cannot connect a controller when you're ingame. The ingame options also don't have much options to customize the game. There is a chance that SxSG also runs on a newer graphics API of DirectX. Sonic Generations is using the ancient, unsupported and issue causing DirectX 9.
Generally the new version of the game will be much more optimized than the current awful PC version. A lot of people are saying the remaster is useless, but on a technical side it is VERY needed.
Thankfully, you can always turn off the FPS boost if you run into anything truly broken. That's the best thing to do in this situation.
If they had sonic generations have sonic the hedgehog playable for free, in shadow generations, they should let you play shadow the hedgehog for free too.
I know they would never do it but would it be cool if they had full playable versions of every sonic game thats represented in generations.
Make it SA2 Original and you got a good reward for beating Shadow Story
@@rayvenkman2087 SA2 is already backwards compatible on Series X/S and you can just mod it on PC to have a better framerate I'd rather have Shadow 2005 as a reward tbh
I’m ok with the shortcut not working at least you can still beat the level! And that shortcut didn’t really skip any of the level it was just taking you the same way at a faster pace!
I think theres also a slight input lag which makes me want to just play the game on my xbox 360 for non-modded gameplay or on PC for modded gameplay
is loosing the old emulated version of sonic 1 such a bad thing? especially with emulation on literally every hand held device now? nah it wont be missed really. what needs to land is the shadow stuff. if sega screws up on that, then they are in trouble, especially with the failure that is sonic colors definitive.
I already know what he was going to talk about blue thought he could trick us
I mean its just two minor issues, and you can disable FPS Boost anyways
I’m pretty sure Xbox handles the frame rate boosts but I could be completely wrong
They do it with the approval of the publisher i think
You're right
We already got the Sonic Turds Collection, it was called Sonic Origins.
Although to be fair, they turned good games into turds rather than releasing the actual turds.
Lol
Nah, they gave us the mobile versions on consoles which people where asking for. You tweakin'.
I'm pretty sure the chemical plant shortcut worked for me but the start of level text is bugged out and is like, random buggy symbols
>Sonic Generations 3DS is Sonic Federations
Lol that actually had me chuckling🤣
I noticed the little chemical plant pulley glitch on PC too
The definition of of making a mountain of an ant hill thus this video is a nothing burger video to bash small boosts for a game for a new and old owners of gens on xbox series consoles and owners that was just done by xbox to encourage more backwards compatibility
You scared me for a second, I thought this was a review for the recent remaster lol
I mean, they're releasing a Bubsy collection next year with Bubsy 3D included. A bad Sonic game compilation wouldn't exactly be too farfetched of an idea.
I don't know why nobody talks about this but sega released MANY and i mean MANY ps3 sonic games on the PS Now which got changed to ps plus but with less games, i think they released every sonic game except sonic 06 and sega tennis game, yeah, even sonic the fighters and sonic 4 episode 1 and 2, unleashed and SA1 and 2!
Need a PS2 to play Shadow the Hedgehog in the new version
Same
How about nintendo switch has the gamecube version, Playstation have the ps2 version, Xbox consoles has the og Xbox version, and I think pc has a dreamcast controller
If you have a GameCube, Wii or Xbox, I'd go with the Xbox or GameCube version. The PS2 version has half the target frame rate, lots of drops and worse visuals similar to Sonic Heroes for PS2.
There's also a hack for GameCube called Shadow Reloaded that has a bunch of improvements over the original.
Or you could just download a sonic 1 rom and set it up in an emulator in 5 minutes
It turns out, you're completely right my guy!
It was confirmed that Sonic 1 will NOT be in Sonic X Shadow Generations. Go figure. I mean, sadly it makes sense. After all, Sega did discontinue the original Sonic 1 from being downloadable because of Sonic Origins. Although, it's not the end of the world. You can still play the OG Sonic 1 from the Sega Classic Collection on PS4 and such. And if you're really lucky like me, we can still play Sonic 1 from the Mega Collection!
I don’t have an Xbox Series X or S, but I have an Xbox One, so no 60fps boost unfortunately. I just like being able to play Unleashed again :)
But hey I can play OG generations on my Xbox One without the fps boost, and thus, without any of the issues pointed out in this video lmao
Little dog dancing in the intro
Even though this isn’t that good I’m gonna be mad that it will be delisted and i got that cristmas
if you already bought it, you can keep playing
@@Sydney_Angelyt I know that, but it just still makes me mad that the original version of these games we will get the listed in certain things might not show up
@@Sydney_Angelyt and the same case with the steam version, those mods that have been created, might not be able to be ported
I did not know this existed. I knew they released the original game on modern Platforms and the framerate was abysmal to put it mildly. Glad I bought it on PC instead.
We got the turds collection. It was the 12 Game Gear titles in the Origins DLC. 😉
Can’t wait till community notes drops
It's an old game development strategy to have the game logic be calculated on each frame. Newer games tend to try and standardize game logic regardless of framerate, but older games almost always did this, which is why Sonic 1 at double the framerate runs at half the speed.
If you want a funny example of this elsewhere
Bethesda still has their gamespeed tied to framerate, so boosting your framerate makes your character move faster
Fallout 76 players would look at the floor so they had to render less stuff, boosting their framerate, and making their character faster
Another fun example of this old tradition
The logic for homing spells in Dark Souls is tied to framerate, so the remaster that boosted the framerate without changing the logic caused a massive decrease in the accuracy of homing spells
I still own Sonic Generations and Sonic Unleashed on XB360. But I was thinking of getting Sonic X Shadow Generations on PS5.
What're the chances that i just finished replaying sonic generations on the series x and this video releases. Part of me is happy tho that at the very least unleashed got some good treatment this time round
Personal opinion, but I ain't paying $50 for a game I already own $20 of.
An enhanced re-release of a 3d Sonic game being objectively worse than the original?! Now there's a novel concept I've never heard before!
I played this version first and it's completely fine for me. Maybe it's because I played it on Xbox one instead of a series X or S but I think it does run in 60fps.
Ive only ever played sonic gens on series x and this whole time i thought the chemical plant short cut was always broken
Fun fact this can be replicated by modding gens on pc
Still waiting for a Eggman dating sim Sega
*Sega! Release the Sonic Gems cut* 😤
Unsubed after this video, 11 minutes to comment two bugs, outstanding!
Oh okay you worried me there for a sec lol
Bro I had a panic attack this is the second time I pre-ordered a Sonic game and when I read the title I got scared
I played Sonic Unleashed yesterday on my 10 year old Xbox one and I rarely got frame drops. Or maybe i just didn't notice them
Ah, yes, 2 easily avoidable issues that take little to avoid and are unnecessary to enjoy the game, really does make this enhanced port with better visuals and framerate. Terrible, not adgitating or disappointing, just straight up terrible. I think this guy is stretching for content
I don’t think Sonic Unleashed ever received a resolution boost for the Xbox Series consoles. I’m pretty sure the only reason Generations has a resolution boost is due to it being enhanced for the Xbox One X. The only thing the Xbox Series consoles do for Unleashed and Generations is give them both a boosted frame rate and Auto HDR support. But I could be mistaken.
You are right. Unleashed on Xbox Series stays at the original resolution but both Generations and Unleashed are enhanced on both
The Remastered version that can be purchased on the Microsoft Store is just a port that you can play via virtual console really.
yep it is.. finally someone said this
1:19 I know a guy that owns Sonic Jam.
In no way is this a remaster or even a new version in general, it is literally just how 360 games are played on the Xbox Series consoles. Every 360 game is like this, it's literally just basic backwards compatibility. nothing in the actual game itself was changed, just a bump from the CONSOLE ITSELF.
Its always hate, never appreciate 😕
I played the Sonic 1 emulator on the Xbox One and it's no different on the Series X (now with 4K UHD). No clue what's wrong with your game.