After reading your comments, it looks like the export time similarities are due to the encoding chip being the same in both machines. Interesting! Thanks y’all. Learning new stuff every day. 👍🏼
There is such a thing as hiccups when it comes to exports. I would definitely recommend re exporting a few more times for consistency but regardless the base model is kinda proving to be the ultimate value. It doesn’t seem to be much of a difference between the two. Playback and scrubbing is by far the most important aspect of editing. And there definitely seems to be very little difference. But I’m almost certain the 10c is the fast model in every aspect. But not very noticeable
Same Here. Bought one yesterday and accidentally ended up with 10 core version and wondering if this will reduce battery as it's more important to me vs speed.
I shoot in 4k60 4-2-2 10bit, I edit in FCPX project timeline 4k30. With that being said, do I need the 10core, or can I get away 8core? Is the 10core overkill? Reason I’m asking is I’m cool with the 10core, just don’t want to pay the extra for the 1TB over 512gbs, since I use external SSD and never store anything on my laptop. Thanks!
I was undecided whether to buy base 14 M1 Pro 10-core or base 14 m2 Pro 10-core. I almost exclusively do advanced video editing. After seeing some export tests including yours, I decided to buy the base 14" model with M2 pro (found new for €500 less than Apple site). Why? Because here it appears that the base version M1 pro 8 -core does not lose performance in video editing compared to the 10-core version, and the base version with 14" M2 pro in the tests of other youtubers (Zone of Tech Dion Schuddeboom) is 20/25% faster in video rendering than base M1 Pro.
Both the base model and the unbinned CPU model uses the Media Encoder/Decoder on the M1Pro Get the M1Max to see a difference in export times. the 512GB SSD model is slower than the 1TB SSD model . It has nothing to do with the SoC being different.
1. They both have the same video encoder chip so for videos, the similar performance is expected 2. Higher SSD capacity usually equals higher disk speed Like your channel but this was a disappointing comparison video
Ok. You’re using same dedicated encoders on both MacBooks - processor is not a key. If you would check load of processors, there would be small load on both.
@@b3naqua not a problem at all. I’ve made a similar mistake on my Tactix Delta Watch review. Does not feel super nice after video is finished, but lesson learned :)
Is there a way that you can show scrubbing in premiere pro? It seems nobody(or at least not many channels) is showing non native apps...i am definitely looking at the 10 core-16,16 with 32gigs of ram config just short of the m1 max... but i use the adobe suite for work.
@@b3naqua thanks bro. I just updated the suite on my desktop... ive seen a few more people try premiere and i definitely might pull the trigger sooner than later. (it was either this laptop or a telephoto lens and some 2 ND filters for sony E-mount)🤣🤦🏾♂️
Hi Ben I’m a small RUclipsr doing Warhammer 40K battle reports and editing reports up-to 3 hours long in 4K with adding tracking and weather effects. I’m using the iMac 2019 model at the moment and looking to upgrade due to my iMac not able to always keep up with me. Would you recommend this or wait for the new iMac 27”? Thanks buddy Darren P.s good video 👍🏻
Hi Ben, I've been watching a lot of your videos yesterday and today, and there's so much fun and useful information. May your music creations be loved by many people.
Well, I process my 4K videos in FCP on Quad-Core, and for some reason, I still think It is the absolute fastest computer in the world. Looks like I am up for surprise ...
The export time is nearly the same, but the write speed of the SSD of the high-end model is almost 30% faster ! Maybe that is because the base model has a 512 Go SSD while the other has 1 To. I know large Apple SSDs have always been faster than the smaller ones, but it would be interesting to compare this write speed with a 8-core CPU 14''MBPro customized with a 1 To SSD.
I’m sure there are, but most people watching this video are mostly likely video editors. I myself isn’t one of those people yet…lol but will be doing a lot more videos soon. For an average Joes you’re asking though; for browsing the web, email, basic editing no crazy editing, you are just fine with MacBook Air. Better yet even an iPad will do.
@@VictorMendezRealtor I mainly want it for the screen, msg safe, and extra ports. Also having the upgraded headphone amp and speakers is very nice. The performance may be total overkill for me but I assume it just means it will be more future proofed. I’d like to see reviews of people running a bunch of apps, maybe watching a movie, and browsing 20 different web pages at the same time lol.
Instead of spending $500 more for a better 14” M1 why not spend $500 more and get the base version 16” model. The base 16” has a 10 core cpu 16 core gpu just like the upgraded 14” model and you get the extra screen real estate, faster charger 140w vs 67w, and larger battery and better speakers
I have seen similar before. In light tasks even the intel i9 16" can beat the M1 and M1Pro/Max. The reason is that the M1 family use the efficiency cores first whenever posible. It is posible that the 8 core has a higher percentage of power cores doing the work. In plain english. The power cores need to work harder in the 8 core model to sustain the same power level.
Hey dude! Please do a test of 'Pubg new state' in both 8 core and 10 core cpu models...and please let us know about the performance and battery after 1 hours of continuous playing.... please make a video on it... 👍 Btw love ur explanation style
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After reading your comments, it looks like the export time similarities are due to the encoding chip being the same in both machines. Interesting! Thanks y’all. Learning new stuff every day. 👍🏼
There is such a thing as hiccups when it comes to exports. I would definitely recommend re exporting a few more times for consistency but regardless the base model is kinda proving to be the ultimate value. It doesn’t seem to be much of a difference between the two. Playback and scrubbing is by far the most important aspect of editing. And there definitely seems to be very little difference. But I’m almost certain the 10c is the fast model in every aspect. But not very noticeable
Agreed, the base model is a beast!
please compare battery life! I really want to know different
Noted
Ditto on this! It’s one of the main things I’ve been looking for before making a purchase
Same Here. Bought one yesterday and accidentally ended up with 10 core version and wondering if this will reduce battery as it's more important to me vs speed.
Ben this was a very useful video and keep up the good work because I have used your video to make some of my tech decisions.
Glad it was helpful for you!
Can you please try Premiere with these two configurations?
I went for the base model myself but added 32GB RAM. I’m not bothered by the 512GB SSD cos i rarely store projects internally so thats not a problem.
Smart!
Was the base 8 core fans silent compared to 10 core cpu?
I haven't heard a single fan go off once on any of my M1 machines. Like, EVER.
based on other youtube channels, yes.
I shoot in 4k60 4-2-2 10bit, I edit in FCPX project timeline 4k30. With that being said, do I need the 10core, or can I get away 8core? Is the 10core overkill? Reason I’m asking is I’m cool with the 10core, just don’t want to pay the extra for the 1TB over 512gbs, since I use external SSD and never store anything on my laptop. Thanks!
I was undecided whether to buy base 14 M1 Pro 10-core or base 14 m2 Pro 10-core.
I almost exclusively do advanced video editing. After seeing some export tests including yours, I decided to buy the base 14" model with M2 pro (found new for €500 less than Apple site). Why? Because here it appears that the base version M1 pro 8 -core does not lose performance in video editing compared to the 10-core version, and the base version with 14" M2 pro in the tests of other youtubers (Zone of Tech Dion Schuddeboom) is 20/25% faster in video rendering than base M1 Pro.
Smart choice!
Both the base model and the unbinned CPU model uses the Media Encoder/Decoder on the M1Pro
Get the M1Max to see a difference in export times.
the 512GB SSD model is slower than the 1TB SSD model . It has nothing to do with the SoC being different.
And about batery performance ? Im realy interested on this
Working on that!
1. They both have the same video encoder chip so for videos, the similar performance is expected
2. Higher SSD capacity usually equals higher disk speed
Like your channel but this was a disappointing comparison video
Couldn’t agree more. Especially the conclusion lol what’s the point?
Ok. You’re using same dedicated encoders on both MacBooks - processor is not a key. If you would check load of processors, there would be small load on both.
Noted! Thanks for the info
@@b3naqua not a problem at all. I’ve made a similar mistake on my Tactix Delta Watch review. Does not feel super nice after video is finished, but lesson learned :)
Is there a way that you can show scrubbing in premiere pro? It seems nobody(or at least not many channels) is showing non native apps...i am definitely looking at the 10 core-16,16 with 32gigs of ram config just short of the m1 max... but i use the adobe suite for work.
I don't use Premiere :( but Photoshop and Lightroom are super smooth on the MBPs. Especially Photoshop.
@@b3naqua thanks bro. I just updated the suite on my desktop... ive seen a few more people try premiere and i definitely might pull the trigger sooner than later.
(it was either this laptop or a telephoto lens and some 2 ND filters for sony E-mount)🤣🤦🏾♂️
Hi Ben I’m a small RUclipsr doing Warhammer 40K battle reports and editing reports up-to 3 hours long in 4K with adding tracking and weather effects. I’m using the iMac 2019 model at the moment and looking to upgrade due to my iMac not able to always keep up with me. Would you recommend this or wait for the new iMac 27”?
Thanks buddy
Darren
P.s good video 👍🏻
Hi Ben,
I've been watching a lot of your videos yesterday and today, and there's so much fun and useful information. May your music creations be loved by many people.
Thank you so much for watching a bunch of my videos and for your positive comment 💛
What about battery life 8 vs 10 core ?
How many GBs of RAM do these Macbooks have? And is it reasonable to go with 16GB (for 5.4K and photo editing)? Would 32 be overkill?
They both have 16gb. If you have the budget, def get 32gb. It'll help out in the long-run.
why do you still recommend the 10 core when the core 8 perform better?
There are other aspects about the 10-core that make it better, like the 16-core GPU, slightly better performance in my music DAW, bigger SSD etc
Well, I process my 4K videos in FCP on Quad-Core, and for some reason, I still think It is the absolute fastest computer in the world. Looks like I am up for surprise ...
Please compare m1 pro 14 core GPU with any rtx 3070 laptop
Did the fan turn on during exporting?
Can’t decide if I should get the 14” base model or pay extra to get full chip 10cpu 16gpu is it worth it it’s there big difference
I wouldn't say there's a HUGE difference, but there's a subtle difference. Stay tuned!
The export time is nearly the same, but the write speed of the SSD of the high-end model is almost 30% faster ! Maybe that is because the base model has a 512 Go SSD while the other has 1 To. I know large Apple SSDs have always been faster than the smaller ones, but it would be interesting to compare this write speed with a 8-core CPU 14''MBPro customized with a 1 To SSD.
True! I was wondering the same thing. My credit card hurts. Lol
is there any videos out these of normal people who use this computer and not just youtuber/video editors?
I’m sure there are, but most people watching this video are mostly likely video editors. I myself isn’t one of those people yet…lol but will be doing a lot more videos soon.
For an average Joes you’re asking though; for browsing the web, email, basic editing no crazy editing, you are just fine with MacBook Air. Better yet even an iPad will do.
@@VictorMendezRealtor I mainly want it for the screen, msg safe, and extra ports. Also having the upgraded headphone amp and speakers is very nice. The performance may be total overkill for me but I assume it just means it will be more future proofed. I’d like to see reviews of people running a bunch of apps, maybe watching a movie, and browsing 20 different web pages at the same time lol.
@@AC-wl7ve honestly the base model is fine for you but yeah still MAJOR overkill and you might do better to wait for the new air
The scrubbing is insane! Never seen anything like it before.
And it’s on better quality?!?! 🤯
Yeah! The M1 MacBook Air/Mac mini 16gb are like that too. It's nuts!
Great Video btw where did you get that matrix's light?
Thanks! It's a matrix screensaver video on RUclips
Try with background rendering off. Will make for a better comparison
True. I turned it off on both machines and it's equally as insanely fast 🔥
Instead of spending $500 more for a better 14” M1 why not spend $500 more and get the base version 16” model.
The base 16” has a 10 core cpu 16 core gpu just like the upgraded 14” model and you get the extra screen real estate, faster charger 140w vs 67w, and larger battery and better speakers
0:34 SMASHED 💥
Yasss
Is the ram the same on both?
yup 16
I just got the 14 base model 2021, with 8 core, 16 ram and 512 gb hahaha ... do normal ppls rly need more ... ? hahah OUF what a beazt !
Are the hard drives the same?
512gb on the base model 8-core, 1tb on the 10-core
@@b3naqua sorry just saw the end! Thank you for the reply though. Love the video. Subscribed! 😎🇺🇸🤝🇷🇺
@@profintech no problem! thanks for subbing!
You can get the 8 core base model with 1tb ssd as well
facts! that would be an excellent all around machine as well
yes, I'll get that and don't need the 10 cores.
Man this is insanely fast
yeah it's bananas
I have seen similar before. In light tasks even the intel i9 16" can beat the M1 and M1Pro/Max. The reason is that the M1 family use the efficiency cores first whenever posible. It is posible that the 8 core has a higher percentage of power cores doing the work. In plain english. The power cores need to work harder in the 8 core model to sustain the same power level.
Makes sense! Thanks for the info
Thanks Ben, very interesting results!
Glad you dug it!
Can you please try with 3dBlender render?
Hey dude! Please do a test of 'Pubg new state' in both 8 core and 10 core cpu models...and please let us know about the performance and battery after 1 hours of continuous playing.... please make a video on it... 👍 Btw love ur explanation style
Add 1TB to the base model and that is! save $300
tru
Scrubbing 🧽 looks like a machine from future lol
Right? That aspect alone is stunning 😵💫