The problem is that they added the battle theme of XC2 for the last fight of her ascension quest, so it's in the game. Would've been cool if they did it. Imagine if the hero for Wave 3 is one of Keves and either Time to fight (XC1) or Mechanical rhythm plays. (Let's go crazy, why not Tragic decision or Zanza the divine)
I wish Ino had special dialogue when you go to the room Nia was hanging out in. During Xenoblade 2, Poppi was able to detect and find Lila because they are both artificial blades so Poppi could detect Lila's ether furnace. Since we see that Poppi is in the furnace looking thing in Nia's room and she has dialogue saying she's back when you take her there (seemingly referring to Poppi), it would've been nice if Ino said something even as simple as "huh, I detect an unknown presence" when you take her there as a reference to xenoblade 2's story and Poppi's presence.
I think the only reason they didn't do that is because you can get Ino before every finishing the story and this would spoil the very cute twist of poppi jumping out in the credits
@@maagic2031 Given its a dlc and she wouldn't go straight up "OMG ITS POPPI" I think it would be fine. It would just be a reference the player would be left to interpret and could mean anything if vague enough including the possibility of an entirely new artificial blade.
notice how Ino looks very advanced (even more so than QTpie) compared to the regular poppi, anyway (regular poppi is like "steam engine" level of technology, Ino's like a cyborg) the heroes rarely do (or say) anything significant outside of their own quests, it's a shame, really :/ (there isn't eough hero to hero interactions, even NPC reactions)
Honestly since he is the only ned character we know for sure has worked on origin he is no joke like second in term of how impactful he is to the series' events just behind Klaus. Also Z probably counts as some weird accidental brother of Poppi.
@@ghirahimlefabuleux8984 I’d say Shulk is second, because not only did he also most likely work on Origin (if Tora is still alive then it’s reasonable to assume that Shulk is), but Shulk also worked on the replica Monados, and got one of the worlds into the state it needs to be in for Origin to even be a possibility in the first place. Rex did the same for the other world, so I’d say even he’s above Tora in importance.
It makes perfect sense to me that the Nopon and their relationships are on the same level, to Agnian/Kevesi soldiers, as wild animals like the Armu. We see Noah realise that little Armu grow up into big Armu over time, and even if an Armu learns to talk, you aren't going to suddenly realise you're supposed to be like the weird dinosaur cow unless somebody gives you reason to think otherwise.
If you take Ino out of the party and then talk to her at the caravan, she mentions her trust going up thousands of points because you talk to her. Clever.
I like how Ino's design is heavily based on Pyra. Her swords look like Pyra's shoulder tails and she shares her design colours (green and red most prominently with a few golden accents) as well as the black part of Pyra's half of Aion.
18:15 the things that convince me that Ino was built or at least activated in Aionios is that she never mentions anything about having been in another world, and all the knowledge she has of Blades and Drivers seem like things she was told about by Oosoo rather than things she experienced. Plus, him telling her to not associate with humans wouldn't have made sense in Alrest. As for her having lost power in the past, I figured it was in a previous battle with the Nopon Eater that left her damaged. 18:51 another option is that she simply doesn't know about Poppi. Oosoo told her Ino was the strongest, and she believed him.
Yeah, this makes sense to me, which means Ino wouldn't exisit post-game, and I'm fine with that tbh. I don't hate Ino ot anything, but I can take her or leave her. She's definitely my least favorite hero thus far. Glad we got another defender though.
@@Cman04092 she's crazy Nopon technology. Chances are she survives or gets remade somehow. If Origin has recorded the people of the City then it can record her too.
yeah, I think she was build in Aionios... there's plenty of "idiosyncratic" (or how to call it) stuff... could just be nothing (localisation, narrative and ludonarrative, writing, story telling stuff), or it could mean that it's sub/unconscious - like things from the bionis/mechonis world, and things from Alrest... that the characters shouldn't/couldn't know, but somehow they do compared to regular poppi, Ino seems far more advanced (maybe even more than "cutiepie"), like Poppi is a like a "steam engine" level of technology, while Ino is a sci-fi cyborg (she's fascinating... She's also reminiscent of Emeralda from Xenogears, even has green hair and says "Really? Really truly?" - and is an artificial life form, Emeralda is nanotechnology - a nanomachine colony... also: she has two forms: child and adult/mature/older... Too bad Ino's story is pretty much complete, imagine she had a second form or a transformation - to me, she looks unfinished, like a "skeleton" without the outer plating) I like Ino, she's wholesome ^^
Fun fact: Ino is the only character in XC3 that has her blades visible sheathed on her back outside of combat, just like playable characters on XC2 had their weapons always visible. I thought it was a nice little touch.
I think they made another little funny reference with the cutscene of them interacting with the challenge mode portal : both Lanz and Riku get curious and investigate it, leading to the party getting teleported, and funnily enough, it was both Reyn and Tora in XC1 and XC2 that approached the portal first in their own game. It might not be intentional, but I figured it was a neat ref (although they probably should've picked Manana instead of Riku since she's from Agnus, fitting Tora more)
Three points to make about things: - I always saw Mio's red-hair braid as a reference to Miyabi, not necessarily her connection to Noah, as her former off-seer partner has a red knot of string (albeit similar to those in the rest of the Agnus off-seer design, and in Nia's outfits in both XC2 and XC3) in the same place in her hair. Also, Mio didn't have her braid in her flashbacks including upto the end of the Colony Omega incident, making it likely Mio took up the practice after the loss of Miyabi to either honour her directly or as the embodiment of the off-seer concept. - There is another direct reference to romance/marriage before the chapter 5 reveal aside from the one in this DLC, as the Tirkin alliance fail-able quest for Colony Tau has you run into a Tirkin bride and groom to be, while the Tirking (likely father of the bride) disapproves of their union. - Also in colony Tau are the 3 Nopon "stack" (from colony 30 I believe?) who are listed as brothers, and the NPC nopon mechanic in Colony 9 reluctantly admits to being their sister if you talk to her after you meet them. In this case though, you have to free both Tau and 9 from the flame-clock so restrictions / taboos on revealing such details to soldiers probably have little weight, and the soldiers are free to be curious about these things they normally don't think about.
wrt reproduction, Z probably doesn't give a shit about nopon breeding because I doubt they even consider nopon to be people. they only seem to care about keves and agnus breeding, which is probably why they stopped cloning only Homs/Ardanians/Leftherians after the City made a bunch of babies, to make the breeding harder.
the moebius wouldn't risk having the nopon to "spoil" these informations to the soldiers, anyway... I mean, they're really dumb (or arrogant?) as a villain group (like Team Rocket levels of dumb)... they'd wipe them out (as they do everyone who'd threaten their "forever now" thing)... Maybe the nopon are "untouchable" by the moebius? Then again, they either know more than they'd admit (like Riku), or they're oblivious (Manana), but they don't have irises, or the 10 term limit like most of everyon else (sans the lost numbers)... They're really weird (or "sus"), really really weird.
@@ArinJager1 I think the Nopon made Mobius a deal that they wouldn’t interfere with their endless now world in exchange for not being affected by the irises and the flame clocks, so they were free to profit Gs from the affair. That or Mobius is just scared of the nopon revolution and they’re the ones who made the deal. Remember what X said? “I thought nopon weren’t supposed to interfere? I guess we were wrong about you.”
It is also to note that The Archsage of definitive edition summons you to a tomb just like the one on Bionis Shoulder. I believe that Nopon are a species brought on by the conduit as a sort of seeding the universe or colonization. The Conduit might as well be an ark made by Nopon.
So what I'm getting here, Tora is a more vital character than we gave him credit for. Yeah he's kinda weird and a tad annoying but the guy literally had a major hand in creating Origin, Poppi: a ridiculously powerful blade, and most likely spawning the little devil that made Ino Well played furball
Or Tora's grandfather Soosoo, who initially made Poppi, her sister and then Poppibuster later, made Ino as his last creation. Ino just misremembers his name and say Oosoo instead of Soosoo.
XD oh god, by that logic, in the DLC, something Tora discovers will probably allow the heroes to fend off the epilogue villain and he’ll receive a glow up rivaling Rex. Tora will be the savior of the epilogue story XD
Ngl when I was doing her Ascension Quest, at first I totally thought that the Nopon Eater’s threat was entirely made up as a scheme to get us to collect materials for their drugs, lol
or as a plot to get rid of Ino, because she's too eager, and the nopon don't really need her protection, but play along, anyway (like, "get rid of" not to kill her, just so she'd go away, at least for a while, anyway)
Great video, Ino's Quest was a great callback to XC2. In regards to Consul A, Ik they do exist(bc of Irma's list), but I still struggle to see how they would be portrayed in a prequel about the Founders(and is never replaced if killed), or how they would affect the main game. I'm more inclined to believe Consul A is "Aionios", rather than a certain missing character from XC1.
So I want to note something, Ino also has a small reference to 7 from Xenoblade 1. The weapons she use match the twin blades that 7 uses. In fact, when using Noponic Champion, Noah as a similar battle stance as 7.
Honestly this makes sense since Noah's class references Shulk, Ashera/dunban, Melia with uh Melia, now 7 with ino. Idk how many of XC2 cast is referenced with moves/weapons but I can see this being a nod to XC1.
The other option for Ino saying Drivers and Blades WERE one in body and soul is because Drivers and Blades aren't really a thing anymore, but I like your idea as well!
I mean as an artificial blade she can probably resonate with anyone. Same as how Poppi could resonate with Tora despite him having no potential to be a driver.
Nopon being enlightened creatures or ones from a higher plane of existence is something I never knew I wanted from overall Xenoblade lore. I unironically hope they do it in the future, lol.
I've had the theory of Poppi becoming basically human or at least gaining a soul by the end of XC2. I like to think her Driver and Blade bond with Tora allowed for this. Poppi's voice becomes more human in the way she speaks and the actual tone of her voice as well as crying actual tears by the end. Perhaps that is how Poppi and maybe Ino could be stored in Origin due to gaining souls and being reborn after the collision. Obviously however, this is just a personal theory with lots of holes in it.
like she went all pinocchio and become a real girl? no need, she already was more human than most, regardless of not being one (and blades ARE human, well, the core crystal ones, anyway... why exclude artificial blades, right?)
When I saw the trailer of the game I thought Nia and Melia would get one. Would've been insanely awesome. Sadly, only 6 Ouroboros at a time. What a shame. They can't even swap pairs like Noah with Sena or Taion for example.
@@arminarlelt7471 yeah, I was thinking the same thing, but then I realized that if you had I dunno... Noah and Sena, you'd essentially get the same Ouroboros forms as you already have with Noah-Mio and Sena-Lanz... It has to be him (animus) and her (anima), and it has to be one kevesi and one agnian, sena-taion wouldn't work, sadly... I also thought they (all six) would form a "megazord" in the final boss battle, but nah, they didn't... I mean, Nia and Melia did have a "zord" of their own (the castles transforming was pretty dope, you can tell it's made in japan, lol... even the Noah-dominant ouroboros looks like a kamen rider)
@@ArinJager1 I mean story wise they could keep it that way, but gameplay wise if you want to combine Noah's form with Sena's or Taion, to switch fast into both and get some combos off would be a good choice design wise. Just keep the Agnian/Kevesi pair thing. So for example, Taion with Noah, Mio with Lanz and Sena with Eunie. Or Noah with Sena, Lanz with Taion and Mio with Eunie. I know it would require more animations for chain attacks but that's the only thing that's really stopping from doing it in my opinion.
I do think this dlc actually explains how Blades in 3 work for Ouroboros. They can probably access the data of the people resting in Origin and can essentially become their driver. Kinda crazy
Then what about the classes from city heroes like Monica and Gray? They don't have data in origin and Gray isn't a blade. I'm pretty sure Oroboros is a separate phenomenon.
Everyone in Aionios is a blade itself since their data was stored in core crystals in Origin. They are not what their original forms before Moebius where, but only reincarnated blades who take form of humans and blades, flesh eaters, Machina etc. alike. Noah was a human once but the Noah in Aionios is just a blade, which is why he and everyone else turns into cube like light particles. And they can just like blades can form their weapons from nowhere.
about the comunication of nopon, there is a quest you get at the beggining of the game that includes a nopon caravan where you have to collect diffrent types of stones (I think its red blue and green) and later its shown that these stones were used to see how close the nopon caravans want to be to the human so there is a bit of comunication between them before the DLC
19:00 I mean, it's probably story gameplay segregation, poppy qtpi was probably made, and in canon Ino is stronger, even if gameplay wise she's lackluster. Or is every time a party member is bad in gameplay canon suddenly? The xenosaga cast really fluctuates between games, didn't know that was also a story thing. And she is supposed to be weakened before the quest.
Let's also not forget the combat prowess that Sharla, Nia/Dromarch, Eunie, and Taion all show, when in gameplay they are support characters and don't do much damage at all. I agree with you that gameplay effectiveness does not directly translate into canon power.
luxin, you don't know how happy I get when your videos show up on my RUclips and they are long af. I'd never complain about your video being 36 min long since they are always a blast to watch. keep up with the great work!
Riku is 100% from Aionios. Just the fact that he has no idea Nopon can fight in the main story has to mean he is not from Bionis, since Nopon fighting there isn't something unusual
also she has green hair and says "Really? Really truly?" which is a line said by Emeralda from Xenogears (and Emeralda too has green hair... and is an artificial/synthetic humanoid entity as well, like Ino) ^^
When you're trying to watch a Luixn video but Ino's cute animations and text bubbles distract you from what he is saying making you rewind multiple times. Thanks for sharing there were a few bits I missed like the past tense bit on the phrasing and it's implications towards XC2s ending theory. Good video as always.
32:15 Of course, we cannot definitively say that Ino is in any way related related to Poppi, but in XBC2, Poppi specifically says that she can't eat food, but she can smell, so she enjoys smelling food she is given. This suggests that Ino can indeed smell the OP Pollen Orb, maybe.
I think it's worth to mention that after Noah and Ino killed the bird, Ino gets close to Noah and stares at him a long time and then Noah says "Victory is ours", right after that, in the next scene, you can see the rest of the party, and Mio looks like she is a bit jealous/upset of Ino and Noah bonding as Blade and Driver (looks like she telling Sena and Lanz about it)
My favorite part about Ino is how Mio has D rank compatibility with the class. I love this because she's so jealous of her closeness to Noah that she refuses to use a class that behaves so similar to her own class. Tgat being a dual wielding Agnian style dodge tank.
I don't know if you missed it but they talk about the "fabled" HD cylinder as if they knew about this thing that Ino CLEARLY brought with her from Alrest. So I thought that was interesting. And I have to disagree passionately with the idea that Ino sees Noah as a brother/father figure. She says so herself that she sees him as Masterpon who she is metaphysically tied to for the remainder of her and his life. It is a bond that is specifically not familial. So her mimicking him is an indication of her connection to him, much like Pandoria was with Zeke early on in XC2.
i think a cool and interesting video would be analyzing all the Agnus-blooded heroes from their arts to see what elements they'd be from 2's world blade mechanics
If Nopon are reproducing normally, it implies that when the worlds merge back together at the end of the game the same thing happens to them as to people from the City - they poof out of existence, possibly waiting to be reborn many generations down the line, never having been stored in Origin. With that in mind it makes sense why Manana's VA wouldn't have been called back - if the expansion takes place post-ending she may simply not exist. Logically Riku should be the same way, but I get the feeling there's more to him than meets the eye and he'll somehow still be around.
31:36 it’s not a copy. It’s the only Lucky Seven we know exists. We see N leave it behind when he dies in the forest in front of his son. We know a person’s Blade can change to suit their preferences (and, between Taion, Eunie, and Sena in flashbacks, that changing roles and weapons is not an Ouroboros-exclusive power). Therefore, N changed his Blade to include a Replica Lucky Seven that is nowhere near as sharp. The real Lucky Seven was then presumably repainted a lighter silver before being passed down to Riku.
X and Z seem to think it's still useful as the Sword of Origin, so they keep N around even after he breaks down from M's death. Melia outright tells you it's just a gimmick, that the real power comes from the wielder. Riku also says it changes form and that it being a sword "isn't important." That, and what Noah and Mio are able to do with it while interlinked make me think it's something like a Monado.
Harry on stream mentioned that he recorded, presumably, a majority of the va in earlyish 2021. I would assume this dlc for this and the subsequent ones were recorded later 2021 to early 2022 when they had planned out the final DLC content, so I assume some of the voices might sound a little different but I didnt notice much of a one in this update
One tiny detail I didn't notice until I got the DLC and got the swim suits for everyone: Taion has a core crystal in his chest. I always thought Agnus had regular humans/homs like Keves, but I guess every single human-like character you see in Agnus is actually a blade/flesh eater. Which makes so much more sense with the lore that Keves needs Power Frames to keep up with Agnus.
It was said in a piece of dialogue somewhere that everyone from Agnus had a core crystal, but having the more froward visual confirmation is much better then having to point people towards a one-off piece of dialogue.
@@33link333 You mean Sena's "We've always had these" line at the beginning of Millick Meadows ? Because that doesn't mean everyone in Agnus has one, she's probably just referring to her and her friends ( Taion possibly included ? ). If you mean something else I would really like to know !
It was not until now that I now know nopon arch sage is actually voiced by Addam Howden, the voice of Shulk, he sounds so different as a nopon, he clearly did a good job voicing a nopon. I knew in japanese nopon arch sage was voiced by Z voice actor, but never imagined Shulk's voice would be the same as nopon arch sage lol
We already knew that the Nopon caravan had some sort of structure and communication because of the Nopon register quest, where they decide on their future relationship to humans through a poll. They wouldn't need that if every group would make big decisions on their own.
I'm pretty sure they don't actively have to try to get the main actors back for new pieces of content because it's mostly likely in their contracts to record for main game and dlc stuff.
It never occured to me that Ino might exist in the real world because Poppi was brought to Aionios. It would be really cool to see her again if the DLC takes place after the main game!
Hm, this was a very interesting Video for an interesting DLC, kind of wish we could’ve gotten more for Ino’s Origin, but oh well. Maybe we could get more eventually.
@Luxin I’m still thinking about Ino’s XC3 DLC Expansion Pass Story it was Good & quite Interesting ❤️💙💚 + I can’t wait to see what’s happening next for DLC Vol. 3: New Hero and Challenge Battles & Vol. 4: All-new Original Story scenario as Final Two Downloadable Content In Xenoblade Chronicles™️ 3.
Based on the very rough datamined design of the new hero I'm going to guess that she is somehow related to Moebius and is not either Keves or Agnus. She doesn't appear to have a core crystal so she's not a blade or artificial like Ino. We have 2 Moebius heroes already so I think a 3rd would be really cool and perhaps this hero's quest will be at the very end of the game and not early like Ino's. Maybe she's even a Keves and Agnus Hybrid based on the very rough colours used in the unfinished design. She doesn't seem to be referencing anything from Xenoblade 1and the closest thing I can compare her to is Meyneth/Vanea and even then that's a huge stretch. But given then Ino's quest was pretty much a walk down memory lane for Xenoblade 2... then it only makes sense that this new hero will do the same for Xenoblade 1.... I mean it obviously doesn't have to at all but it is likely the design is ridiculously unfinished and that's why we can't pinpoint any Xenoblade 1 stuff.
she doesn't look like anything (not agnus, not keves, not lost numbers, not moebius, either)... like, sure, she looks like a blade the most, but I don't think there's a core crystal on her... oh, nevermind, there is (my bad) >.> 2 moebius heroes? Who's the other one besides Triton, I mean?! :O (I don't think Segiri counts as a moebius... the logo just means their affiliation, not that they are that)
Nopon and Moebius made a non-aggression pact, not because Nopons were scared of Moebius, but because Moebius were scared of Nopons. If they managed to make lucky seven, origin, and artificial blades, then they can easily take out moebius.
My headcanon is that Z was saving the Mobius A slot for Ashera. (think about it, there's already an empty S slot for most of the game, another vacant position isn't out of the question)
It's possible she means the strongest Artificial Blade currently existing, because she'd have no way of knowing that Poppi is still alive and is being stored in Nia's Keep. I do think it's more likely she's just embellishing her strength, though.
@@seankock7649 ...huh. I just assumed that the Halfsage was a different Nopon entirely. So much so that I can't mentally visualize him, and as such have no memory of what his fur color was. For the sake of this theory, I'll just assume that he was the darkest shade of yellow on the timeline, and double check when I am NOT suffering from Strep Throat and related exhaustion.
Ino was a nice shot of Xenoblade 2's light tone and silliness but I'm hoping that the future dlc keeps up with the darker tone Xenoblade 3 had because personally I do think these games work better with a more mature tone.
it would make sense for DLC 3 to pose a conundrum of the mechanics of Xenoblade 1 ,so it could lead into DLC 4. Which will be inherently a darker tone. as it is the "ID world" out of ID and EGO.
I honestly disagree that consul A not being in the 1st 2 waves of dlc would mean it's a prequel, they could function differently from other Mobius like Z and somehow survive to be the villain of the dlc.
it may not be a prequel but just additional content during the main storyline progression. but I think most people are hoping that no Consul A means the story DLC has a higher chance of being an epilogue story where Noah and Mio reunite after Aionios is gone.
I still think there is no personified Consul A and that Moebius A is just Aionios, since N says on multiple occasions that "Moebius is the world itself."
Yea, since Consul A isn't the Nopon Archesage, i'm guessing Consul A is MOST LIKELY Alvis. And that he will either be an important ally or the guy actually pulling the strings throughout the whole adventure.
A is potentially also Z since that would be a biblical reference (Alpha and Omega, the first and last letter of the alphabet, being a reference to God) to the same thing Deus was a reference to and Z is yet another partially Deus-like antagonist.
This theory of "Consul A is Alvis" is so ridiculous in my opinion, not everything needs to be a fanservice that doesn't even makes sense For me Consul A should be just Z's "Architect" counterpart (Like Z is the evil one like Zanza and A more of a flawed god or Aionios )
Noah saying "you only live once" might make sense if you're playing through the game with DLC from the beginning and find Ino early in Chapter 3. It is slightly suspect if you were anywhere past the end of Chapter 4 and downright inexplicable if you're beyond the start of Chapter 6 when the DLC released.
I don't know, I've always considered things like the archsage and the fact that Shulk, Fiora and Elma appears in the land of challenge in Xeno 2 as pure non-canon fanservice (even in a quest in Xeno 2 in which Shulk, KOS-MOS and Elma are reunited it is clearly stated that "maybe someone just wanted to see them all together") Moreover [SPOILER XENOBLADE 3 FUTURE REDEEMED] . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . I like to think that somehow the dot falling on the reunited worlds at the end of future redeemed is actually the white whale from Xenoblade X. That would even kind of explain what's "something about this planet" (although I've heard that someone thinks it's more related to Xenosaga than Xeno X, which I still have to play)
30:06 Tyrea 🤣. Her connection is weird though, she's Melia's halve sister, but not really. Basicly the Emporer of the High Entia (Sorean, Melia's father) gets 2 wives. The first consort (Yumea) who is High entia as well and the Second consort who is homs/human. Now Yumea had 2 kids, who are Kallian (Melia's halve brother) who is pure High Entia, and Tyrea. The unnamed second consort who was homs had 1 child, which is Melia herself, making Melia a halve blood of being halve homs. This was done in an effort to dilude the bloodline of the High entia enough to free them from a curse. Lorithia was the first to exploit that curse, she betrayed everyone and turned everyone into Telethia. Well most, some that were halve bloods like Melia didn't get effected. Later on we also get to know that Tyrea was a halve blood as well, so Yumea basicly cheated with a homs and got Tyrea, but Tyrea was rare and could hide this fact by being a halve blood, but with large head wings.
Tyrea got them dominant/recessive genes - is half-breed, looks like a pure-blood... I wonder who did Yumea do the thing with (that's some game of thrones $h*t)... Only Kallian isn't a "bastard" (Melia = legitimized bastard, Tyrea = bastard)
@@ArinJager1 Yeah the only pure blood child would be Kallian, but this also means that Kallian would be effected in the events if the High Entia would turn into Telethia (which did happen). It's why the emporer has 2 wives, one High Entia and one Homs. Sadly we never get to see Melia's mother, also we don't know who Yumea got it on with and got Tyrea with.
This video honestly makes me want to have the DLC story to be a prequel focusing in riku. Also when Tyrea started flying I literally got shook. I couldn't believe it.
I think we have enough evidence to say Mio Sena and Taion are not flesh eater, blade and blade eater, they are children of blades in and around the 10 year mark when it all went down. Looking at Rex in the photo he looks about the age Zeke was in Xenoblade 2 so between 25 and 30, making him 35 to 40 when Origin was completed. We know Riki had many kids by the time he was 40 so its not hard to imagine Tora having kids by then either, and with how nopon seem to survive the joining of world's I can imagine a child of Tora surviving and making artificial blades. Also it's possible the world fo Xenoblade X is an alternate dimension, there is lore to back this up from how Klaus explains the universe to Rex.
Ino is probably in the same boat as the city people tbh in that regard if we go by the "OoSoo is toras son" logic ,but if blades can survive aionio's collision or some such then it cant be because toras son would be too young.
So, Adam Howden has finally made his presence known in XC3? In that case, I can now comfortably call XC3 an official Xenoblade game without feeling slighted.
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The scene where she tells Eunie to "cease and desist" is a clever reference to the fact that she is a Nintendo chatacter.
Ino’s quest made me realize why it was so hard to explain how XC2 works to my friends. Thanks, Monolith.
Me: *attempts to explain the weird world of 2*
My mom: "...So it's a harem anime?"
@@ninjapotatolorf6237 Your mom knows what a harem anime is?
@@stevecelera8435 wait, so you're mom doesn't know what a harem anime is? Lol.
@@stevecelera8435 my mom has been watching anime since before I was born
@@ninjapotatolorf6237 Your mom sounds really chill ngl
It's criminal that we don't get XC2 battle music when Ino is in the party after completing her ascension quest.
True
@@Touma_S Any of the normal battle themes in XC2. Battle! Exploration or Still Move Forward! For examples.
The problem is that they added the battle theme of XC2 for the last fight of her ascension quest, so it's in the game. Would've been cool if they did it.
Imagine if the hero for Wave 3 is one of Keves and either Time to fight (XC1) or Mechanical rhythm plays. (Let's go crazy, why not Tragic decision or Zanza the divine)
Dude if "A monster surprised you" was in the game I'd nut. It would bring me back to the fighting ardainian soldier days
Indeed
I wish Ino had special dialogue when you go to the room Nia was hanging out in. During Xenoblade 2, Poppi was able to detect and find Lila because they are both artificial blades so Poppi could detect Lila's ether furnace. Since we see that Poppi is in the furnace looking thing in Nia's room and she has dialogue saying she's back when you take her there (seemingly referring to Poppi), it would've been nice if Ino said something even as simple as "huh, I detect an unknown presence" when you take her there as a reference to xenoblade 2's story and Poppi's presence.
I think the only reason they didn't do that is because you can get Ino before every finishing the story and this would spoil the very cute twist of poppi jumping out in the credits
Good point. Ino needs to show up in the story dlc somehow.
@@maagic2031 Given its a dlc and she wouldn't go straight up "OMG ITS POPPI" I think it would be fine. It would just be a reference the player would be left to interpret and could mean anything if vague enough including the possibility of an entirely new artificial blade.
@@ThePurplePeppy some people would probably think that that was a glitch, like sensing a cave or seeing a unique monster etc lmao
notice how Ino looks very advanced (even more so than QTpie) compared to the regular poppi, anyway (regular poppi is like "steam engine" level of technology, Ino's like a cyborg)
the heroes rarely do (or say) anything significant outside of their own quests, it's a shame, really :/ (there isn't eough hero to hero interactions, even NPC reactions)
Tora continues to be the most important character in all of Xenoblade
Tora’s brain is very big, meh!
Tora continues to be the Kabuto Kouji of Xenoblade. If you know, you know.
Honestly since he is the only ned character we know for sure has worked on origin he is no joke like second in term of how impactful he is to the series' events just behind Klaus. Also Z probably counts as some weird accidental brother of Poppi.
@@ghirahimlefabuleux8984 I’d say Shulk is second, because not only did he also most likely work on Origin (if Tora is still alive then it’s reasonable to assume that Shulk is), but Shulk also worked on the replica Monados, and got one of the worlds into the state it needs to be in for Origin to even be a possibility in the first place. Rex did the same for the other world, so I’d say even he’s above Tora in importance.
INDEEEED!!!
It makes perfect sense to me that the Nopon and their relationships are on the same level, to Agnian/Kevesi soldiers, as wild animals like the Armu. We see Noah realise that little Armu grow up into big Armu over time, and even if an Armu learns to talk, you aren't going to suddenly realise you're supposed to be like the weird dinosaur cow unless somebody gives you reason to think otherwise.
If you take Ino out of the party and then talk to her at the caravan, she mentions her trust going up thousands of points because you talk to her. Clever.
I like how Ino's design is heavily based on Pyra. Her swords look like Pyra's shoulder tails and she shares her design colours (green and red most prominently with a few golden accents) as well as the black part of Pyra's half of Aion.
yeah, Pyra, and Poppi QTpi, and kos-most (and Emeralda from xenogears)
When I initially saw the silhouette I thought pyra was going to be the wave 1 hero
18:15 the things that convince me that Ino was built or at least activated in Aionios is that she never mentions anything about having been in another world, and all the knowledge she has of Blades and Drivers seem like things she was told about by Oosoo rather than things she experienced. Plus, him telling her to not associate with humans wouldn't have made sense in Alrest.
As for her having lost power in the past, I figured it was in a previous battle with the Nopon Eater that left her damaged.
18:51 another option is that she simply doesn't know about Poppi. Oosoo told her Ino was the strongest, and she believed him.
Yeah, this makes sense to me, which means Ino wouldn't exisit post-game, and I'm fine with that tbh. I don't hate Ino ot anything, but I can take her or leave her. She's definitely my least favorite hero thus far. Glad we got another defender though.
@@Cman04092 she's crazy Nopon technology. Chances are she survives or gets remade somehow. If Origin has recorded the people of the City then it can record her too.
yeah, I think she was build in Aionios... there's plenty of "idiosyncratic" (or how to call it) stuff... could just be nothing (localisation, narrative and ludonarrative, writing, story telling stuff), or it could mean that it's sub/unconscious - like things from the bionis/mechonis world, and things from Alrest... that the characters shouldn't/couldn't know, but somehow they do
compared to regular poppi, Ino seems far more advanced (maybe even more than "cutiepie"), like Poppi is a like a "steam engine" level of technology, while Ino is a sci-fi cyborg (she's fascinating... She's also reminiscent of Emeralda from Xenogears, even has green hair and says "Really? Really truly?" - and is an artificial life form, Emeralda is nanotechnology - a nanomachine colony... also: she has two forms: child and adult/mature/older... Too bad Ino's story is pretty much complete, imagine she had a second form or a transformation - to me, she looks unfinished, like a "skeleton" without the outer plating)
I like Ino, she's wholesome ^^
Oosoo gaslighting Ino
If she did know, she's probably too dimwitted or was told not to get into it as she wasn't supposed to interact with humans
My takeaway from this video: Nopon know what sex is and refuse to tell soldiers of Keves and Agnus
Fun fact: Ino is the only character in XC3 that has her blades visible sheathed on her back outside of combat, just like playable characters on XC2 had their weapons always visible. I thought it was a nice little touch.
I think they made another little funny reference with the cutscene of them interacting with the challenge mode portal : both Lanz and Riku get curious and investigate it, leading to the party getting teleported, and funnily enough, it was both Reyn and Tora in XC1 and XC2 that approached the portal first in their own game.
It might not be intentional, but I figured it was a neat ref (although they probably should've picked Manana instead of Riku since she's from Agnus, fitting Tora more)
Running gag
Three points to make about things:
- I always saw Mio's red-hair braid as a reference to Miyabi, not necessarily her connection to Noah, as her former off-seer partner has a red knot of string (albeit similar to those in the rest of the Agnus off-seer design, and in Nia's outfits in both XC2 and XC3) in the same place in her hair. Also, Mio didn't have her braid in her flashbacks including upto the end of the Colony Omega incident, making it likely Mio took up the practice after the loss of Miyabi to either honour her directly or as the embodiment of the off-seer concept.
- There is another direct reference to romance/marriage before the chapter 5 reveal aside from the one in this DLC, as the Tirkin alliance fail-able quest for Colony Tau has you run into a Tirkin bride and groom to be, while the Tirking (likely father of the bride) disapproves of their union.
- Also in colony Tau are the 3 Nopon "stack" (from colony 30 I believe?) who are listed as brothers, and the NPC nopon mechanic in Colony 9 reluctantly admits to being their sister if you talk to her after you meet them. In this case though, you have to free both Tau and 9 from the flame-clock so restrictions / taboos on revealing such details to soldiers probably have little weight, and the soldiers are free to be curious about these things they normally don't think about.
wrt reproduction, Z probably doesn't give a shit about nopon breeding because I doubt they even consider nopon to be people. they only seem to care about keves and agnus breeding, which is probably why they stopped cloning only Homs/Ardanians/Leftherians after the City made a bunch of babies, to make the breeding harder.
the moebius wouldn't risk having the nopon to "spoil" these informations to the soldiers, anyway... I mean, they're really dumb (or arrogant?) as a villain group (like Team Rocket levels of dumb)... they'd wipe them out (as they do everyone who'd threaten their "forever now" thing)... Maybe the nopon are "untouchable" by the moebius? Then again, they either know more than they'd admit (like Riku), or they're oblivious (Manana), but they don't have irises, or the 10 term limit like most of everyon else (sans the lost numbers)... They're really weird (or "sus"), really really weird.
@@ArinJager1 I think the Nopon made Mobius a deal that they wouldn’t interfere with their endless now world in exchange for not being affected by the irises and the flame clocks, so they were free to profit Gs from the affair. That or Mobius is just scared of the nopon revolution and they’re the ones who made the deal. Remember what X said? “I thought nopon weren’t supposed to interfere? I guess we were wrong about you.”
One funny theory I have is that maybe the reason the nopon caravans have so much freedom is because Z he's afraid of the nopon Arcsage.
He's afraid of the endless challenge
Who apparently is voiced by Shulk's English VA. Coincidence? I think not
It is also to note that The Archsage of definitive edition summons you to a tomb just like the one on Bionis Shoulder.
I believe that Nopon are a species brought on by the conduit as a sort of seeding the universe or colonization. The Conduit might as well be an ark made by Nopon.
I want the next game protagonist to be a Nopon
So what I'm getting here, Tora is a more vital character than we gave him credit for. Yeah he's kinda weird and a tad annoying but the guy literally had a major hand in creating Origin, Poppi: a ridiculously powerful blade, and most likely spawning the little devil that made Ino
Well played furball
Or Tora's grandfather Soosoo, who initially made Poppi, her sister and then Poppibuster later, made Ino as his last creation. Ino just misremembers his name and say Oosoo instead of Soosoo.
I can't believe my least favorite XC2 party member is somehow the most important character in Xenoblade lore
Dear god
@@fwapkiwami Too bad. You seem to forget that this series is made by hardcore mecha fans and Tora is their essentially their self-insert character.
@@fwapkiwami This is exactly how I feel about Melia
XD oh god, by that logic, in the DLC, something Tora discovers will probably allow the heroes to fend off the epilogue villain and he’ll receive a glow up rivaling Rex. Tora will be the savior of the epilogue story XD
Ngl when I was doing her Ascension Quest, at first I totally thought that the Nopon Eater’s threat was entirely made up as a scheme to get us to collect materials for their drugs, lol
or as a plot to get rid of Ino, because she's too eager, and the nopon don't really need her protection, but play along, anyway (like, "get rid of" not to kill her, just so she'd go away, at least for a while, anyway)
Great video, Ino's Quest was a great callback to XC2. In regards to Consul A, Ik they do exist(bc of Irma's list), but I still struggle to see how they would be portrayed in a prequel about the Founders(and is never replaced if killed), or how they would affect the main game. I'm more inclined to believe Consul A is "Aionios", rather than a certain missing character from XC1.
So I want to note something, Ino also has a small reference to 7 from Xenoblade 1. The weapons she use match the twin blades that 7 uses. In fact, when using Noponic Champion, Noah as a similar battle stance as 7.
Honestly this makes sense since Noah's class references Shulk, Ashera/dunban, Melia with uh Melia, now 7 with ino. Idk how many of XC2 cast is referenced with moves/weapons but I can see this being a nod to XC1.
@@ShurikanBlade Ethel's class has a few arts from 7, actually.
@@tried.4thdslip and Morag's battle stance
I was like: "who the F is seven" then I remembered, lol
Also, some of the moves in-battle for Ino's arts are very similar to 7's in-battle moves.
The other option for Ino saying Drivers and Blades WERE one in body and soul is because Drivers and Blades aren't really a thing anymore, but I like your idea as well!
The moment that the Xenoblade 2 fight theme started was the moment I heard "Don't forget me." and "Think you can take me?".
For people who were surprised that Noah became Ino’s Driver, remember that she’s mostly red and Noah’s signature color is red.
I mean as an artificial blade she can probably resonate with anyone. Same as how Poppi could resonate with Tora despite him having no potential to be a driver.
And?
I see no flaws in this logic.
@@joelsasmad And how Poppibuster can switch drivers at any time.
Nopon being enlightened creatures or ones from a higher plane of existence is something I never knew I wanted from overall Xenoblade lore. I unironically hope they do it in the future, lol.
I've had the theory of Poppi becoming basically human or at least gaining a soul by the end of XC2. I like to think her Driver and Blade bond with Tora allowed for this. Poppi's voice becomes more human in the way she speaks and the actual tone of her voice as well as crying actual tears by the end. Perhaps that is how Poppi and maybe Ino could be stored in Origin due to gaining souls and being reborn after the collision. Obviously however, this is just a personal theory with lots of holes in it.
Since they're Artificial Blades, they probably don't need to be stored in Origin at all, they'd be able to survive and just use Ether to recover.
like she went all pinocchio and become a real girl? no need, she already was more human than most, regardless of not being one (and blades ARE human, well, the core crystal ones, anyway... why exclude artificial blades, right?)
I'm still hoping we get a Manana/Riku Ouroboros and make them fully playable eventually.
When I saw the trailer of the game I thought Nia and Melia would get one. Would've been insanely awesome.
Sadly, only 6 Ouroboros at a time. What a shame. They can't even swap pairs like Noah with Sena or Taion for example.
@@arminarlelt7471 A Nia and Melia Ouroboros would be BEYOND cool, and tbh I hope the DLC has such if it's a prequel story.
@@arminarlelt7471 yeah, I was thinking the same thing, but then I realized that if you had I dunno... Noah and Sena, you'd essentially get the same Ouroboros forms as you already have with Noah-Mio and Sena-Lanz... It has to be him (animus) and her (anima), and it has to be one kevesi and one agnian, sena-taion wouldn't work, sadly... I also thought they (all six) would form a "megazord" in the final boss battle, but nah, they didn't... I mean, Nia and Melia did have a "zord" of their own (the castles transforming was pretty dope, you can tell it's made in japan, lol... even the Noah-dominant ouroboros looks like a kamen rider)
@@ArinJager1 I mean story wise they could keep it that way, but gameplay wise if you want to combine Noah's form with Sena's or Taion, to switch fast into both and get some combos off would be a good choice design wise.
Just keep the Agnian/Kevesi pair thing. So for example, Taion with Noah, Mio with Lanz and Sena with Eunie. Or Noah with Sena, Lanz with Taion and Mio with Eunie.
I know it would require more animations for chain attacks but that's the only thing that's really stopping from doing it in my opinion.
I really hope we get to fight the Ouroboros of Shulk and Rex as a boss
I do think this dlc actually explains how Blades in 3 work for Ouroboros. They can probably access the data of the people resting in Origin and can essentially become their driver. Kinda crazy
@@Touma_S …why Mio specifically?
@@coldtyrant2557 probably since Mio's very probably a flesh eater and hinted to be Nia's child-
Then what about the classes from city heroes like Monica and Gray? They don't have data in origin and Gray isn't a blade. I'm pretty sure Oroboros is a separate phenomenon.
Everyone in Aionios is a blade itself since their data was stored in core crystals in Origin. They are not what their original forms before Moebius where, but only reincarnated blades who take form of humans and blades, flesh eaters, Machina etc. alike. Noah was a human once but the Noah in Aionios is just a blade, which is why he and everyone else turns into cube like light particles. And they can just like blades can form their weapons from nowhere.
@@Mindskarred That seems like a stretch.
33:23 Ah yes, the kid was "well taken care of"
about the comunication of nopon, there is a quest you get at the beggining of the game that includes a nopon caravan where you have to collect diffrent types of stones (I think its red blue and green) and later its shown that these stones were used to see how close the nopon caravans want to be to the human so there is a bit of comunication between them before the DLC
22:45
She could also just be referring to how there are no more drivers and blades left, at least not in the XC2 sense
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I mean, it's probably story gameplay segregation, poppy qtpi was probably made, and in canon Ino is stronger, even if gameplay wise she's lackluster.
Or is every time a party member is bad in gameplay canon suddenly? The xenosaga cast really fluctuates between games, didn't know that was also a story thing. And she is supposed to be weakened before the quest.
Let's also not forget the combat prowess that Sharla, Nia/Dromarch, Eunie, and Taion all show, when in gameplay they are support characters and don't do much damage at all. I agree with you that gameplay effectiveness does not directly translate into canon power.
luxin, you don't know how happy I get when your videos show up on my RUclips and they are long af. I'd never complain about your video being 36 min long since they are always a blast to watch. keep up with the great work!
I'm still banking on the theory that Consul A is Aionios itself
Riku is 100% from Aionios. Just the fact that he has no idea Nopon can fight in the main story has to mean he is not from Bionis, since Nopon fighting there isn't something unusual
regarding him saying that he's not helping because he doesn't have time, it could also be a pride thing, as he is a very prideful Nopon!
also she has green hair and says "Really? Really truly?" which is a line said by Emeralda from Xenogears (and Emeralda too has green hair... and is an artificial/synthetic humanoid entity as well, like Ino) ^^
When you're trying to watch a Luixn video but Ino's cute animations and text bubbles distract you from what he is saying making you rewind multiple times. Thanks for sharing there were a few bits I missed like the past tense bit on the phrasing and it's implications towards XC2s ending theory. Good video as always.
15:20 Soosoo can’t have been Ino’s creator, and neither can Tora. Ino isn’t horrifically sexualized enough to be their idea.
The intense whiplash I experienced swinging my head back towards my screen after hearing the words "nopon" and "lalafell" uttered in the same sentence
Future Nero here after playing all the DLC, and my conclusion on Riku is... Riku is just common garden-variety Nopon.
32:15 Of course, we cannot definitively say that Ino is in any way related related to Poppi, but in XBC2, Poppi specifically says that she can't eat food, but she can smell, so she enjoys smelling food she is given. This suggests that Ino can indeed smell the OP Pollen Orb, maybe.
I think it's worth to mention that after Noah and Ino killed the bird, Ino gets close to Noah and stares at him a long time and then Noah says "Victory is ours", right after that, in the next scene, you can see the rest of the party, and Mio looks like she is a bit jealous/upset of Ino and Noah bonding as Blade and Driver (looks like she telling Sena and Lanz about it)
I just love how when Noah scans Ino's icon and transforms his clothes (and obtains her weapons), Ino's like: (°O°)
My favorite part about Ino is how Mio has D rank compatibility with the class. I love this because she's so jealous of her closeness to Noah that she refuses to use a class that behaves so similar to her own class. Tgat being a dual wielding Agnian style dodge tank.
I don't know if you missed it but they talk about the "fabled" HD cylinder as if they knew about this thing that Ino CLEARLY brought with her from Alrest. So I thought that was interesting.
And I have to disagree passionately with the idea that Ino sees Noah as a brother/father figure. She says so herself that she sees him as Masterpon who she is metaphysically tied to for the remainder of her and his life. It is a bond that is specifically not familial. So her mimicking him is an indication of her connection to him, much like Pandoria was with Zeke early on in XC2.
she sees Noah as her driver
i think a cool and interesting video would be analyzing all the Agnus-blooded heroes from their arts to see what elements they'd be from 2's world blade mechanics
"Cammuravi is fire" (lol) >x'D
Xenoblade 2 is king. Absolutely adore them all, though
So the arch sage is voiced by (in English) the first protagonist and is voiced by (in japanese) the most recent antagonist? Funny that
If Nopon are reproducing normally, it implies that when the worlds merge back together at the end of the game the same thing happens to them as to people from the City - they poof out of existence, possibly waiting to be reborn many generations down the line, never having been stored in Origin. With that in mind it makes sense why Manana's VA wouldn't have been called back - if the expansion takes place post-ending she may simply not exist. Logically Riku should be the same way, but I get the feeling there's more to him than meets the eye and he'll somehow still be around.
Love every video you make about this absolutely glorious series/games. Keep up the incredible work my dude!
31:36 it’s not a copy. It’s the only Lucky Seven we know exists. We see N leave it behind when he dies in the forest in front of his son. We know a person’s Blade can change to suit their preferences (and, between Taion, Eunie, and Sena in flashbacks, that changing roles and weapons is not an Ouroboros-exclusive power). Therefore, N changed his Blade to include a Replica Lucky Seven that is nowhere near as sharp. The real Lucky Seven was then presumably repainted a lighter silver before being passed down to Riku.
X and Z seem to think it's still useful as the Sword of Origin, so they keep N around even after he breaks down from M's death. Melia outright tells you it's just a gimmick, that the real power comes from the wielder. Riku also says it changes form and that it being a sword "isn't important." That, and what Noah and Mio are able to do with it while interlinked make me think it's something like a Monado.
I just realized: N’s sword is a Replica Replica Monado.
Man idk why I wish for a XC2 remake with 3’s QoL’s changes
I love that Sunny sounds like he's a 50 a day smoker. Probably partaking in his own pollen orbs too much.
really hope we get to see Tora in the story dlc
"Twice as long?" It doesn't really feel like it with luxin.. maybe I'm used to the 90 minute trailer break downs!
Harry on stream mentioned that he recorded, presumably, a majority of the va in earlyish 2021. I would assume this dlc for this and the subsequent ones were recorded later 2021 to early 2022 when they had planned out the final DLC content, so I assume some of the voices might sound a little different but I didnt notice much of a one in this update
as long as they didn't phone it in bacause of the "wahrus"
One tiny detail I didn't notice until I got the DLC and got the swim suits for everyone: Taion has a core crystal in his chest. I always thought Agnus had regular humans/homs like Keves, but I guess every single human-like character you see in Agnus is actually a blade/flesh eater. Which makes so much more sense with the lore that Keves needs Power Frames to keep up with Agnus.
It was said in a piece of dialogue somewhere that everyone from Agnus had a core crystal, but having the more froward visual confirmation is much better then having to point people towards a one-off piece of dialogue.
@@33link333 You mean Sena's "We've always had these" line at the beginning of Millick Meadows ? Because that doesn't mean everyone in Agnus has one, she's probably just referring to her and her friends ( Taion possibly included ? ). If you mean something else I would really like to know !
the spiraling rings reminds me of the rings on the Compass at the end of Xenosaga III
27:27 it reminds me specifically of Skyward Sword.
It was not until now that I now know nopon arch sage is actually voiced by Addam Howden, the voice of Shulk, he sounds so different as a nopon, he clearly did a good job voicing a nopon. I knew in japanese nopon arch sage was voiced by Z voice actor, but never imagined Shulk's voice would be the same as nopon arch sage lol
If Noah is Xenoblade's Fei from Xenogears.
Ino is Emeralda, and I can't unsee it now.
she even says "Really? Really truly?" - that's what emeralda says in xenogears (and has green hair, and both are artificial life forms)
Do you think Ino will get an adult version like Emeralda?
riku probably just doesn't know about the challenge mode portal because it's not canon
We already knew that the Nopon caravan had some sort of structure and communication because of the Nopon register quest, where they decide on their future relationship to humans through a poll. They wouldn't need that if every group would make big decisions on their own.
I'm pretty sure they don't actively have to try to get the main actors back for new pieces of content because it's mostly likely in their contracts to record for main game and dlc stuff.
It never occured to me that Ino might exist in the real world because Poppi was brought to Aionios. It would be really cool to see her again if the DLC takes place after the main game!
Hm, this was a very interesting Video for an interesting DLC, kind of wish we could’ve gotten more for Ino’s Origin, but oh well.
Maybe we could get more eventually.
23:30 It looks like the Air Symbol from the Skylanders game.
It makes me wonder
If normal blades can also have children, did pandy get friendzoned by Zeke?
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Also X’s main cast! Did you forget the cutscene at the start of every chapter?
4:17 aren’t orange and blue also the colors of Alrest and Bionis in the Queen’s Origin Exposition cutscene?
If ino is mirrored by xeno 2 then the other hero would mirror xeno 1.
24:26 what are you talking about? The non-Hero Quests are clearly blue
thank you for the video Luxin :D
People saying that QtPi was OP, it was Tora doing all the work
@Luxin I’m still thinking about Ino’s XC3 DLC Expansion Pass Story it was Good & quite Interesting ❤️💙💚 + I can’t wait to see what’s happening next for DLC Vol. 3: New Hero and Challenge Battles & Vol. 4: All-new Original Story scenario as Final Two Downloadable Content In Xenoblade Chronicles™️ 3.
Based on the very rough datamined design of the new hero I'm going to guess that she is somehow related to Moebius and is not either Keves or Agnus. She doesn't appear to have a core crystal so she's not a blade or artificial like Ino. We have 2 Moebius heroes already so I think a 3rd would be really cool and perhaps this hero's quest will be at the very end of the game and not early like Ino's. Maybe she's even a Keves and Agnus Hybrid based on the very rough colours used in the unfinished design. She doesn't seem to be referencing anything from Xenoblade 1and the closest thing I can compare her to is Meyneth/Vanea and even then that's a huge stretch. But given then Ino's quest was pretty much a walk down memory lane for Xenoblade 2... then it only makes sense that this new hero will do the same for Xenoblade 1.... I mean it obviously doesn't have to at all but it is likely the design is ridiculously unfinished and that's why we can't pinpoint any Xenoblade 1 stuff.
she doesn't look like anything (not agnus, not keves, not lost numbers, not moebius, either)... like, sure, she looks like a blade the most, but I don't think there's a core crystal on her... oh, nevermind, there is (my bad) >.>
2 moebius heroes? Who's the other one besides Triton, I mean?! :O (I don't think Segiri counts as a moebius... the logo just means their affiliation, not that they are that)
No Consul A in the next hero quest meaning they'll appear in the story DLC and it will be a prequel seems like a bit of a leap.
Yeah, its definitely possible that they just don't plan to ever reveal A at all. Maybe A was just some unimportant nobody who we will never see.
@@Cman04092 or its the theory that A is aionios , aka all of the "Normal" pepole who wanted no change like the city residents.
@@Cman04092 moebius A was the friends we made along the way >x'D
14:35 made me laugh so hard
Nopon and Moebius made a non-aggression pact, not because Nopons were scared of Moebius, but because Moebius were scared of Nopons. If they managed to make lucky seven, origin, and artificial blades, then they can easily take out moebius.
nopon are untouchable by the moebius, maybe...?
My headcanon is that Z was saving the Mobius A slot for Ashera.
(think about it, there's already an empty S slot for most of the game, another vacant position isn't out of the question)
like, the alphabet only has 26 letters... and you can see the theater full of "moebiuses" (more than 26)... all I'm saying is that it's really weird
It was a one-eyed, one-horned, flying purple Nopon eater!
I heard "nopon eater" and I remembered chocobo eater from FF10 (and how ugly that thing is, ugh)
The whiplash I get when i think of how Shulk's VA voiced Archsage in English, and Z in JP. So funny.
Keep in mind that Adam Howden voiced Zanza too.
Ino would be a great character to summarize Xenoblade Chronicles 2
It's possible she means the strongest Artificial Blade currently existing, because she'd have no way of knowing that Poppi is still alive and is being stored in Nia's Keep. I do think it's more likely she's just embellishing her strength, though.
5:16 His past color was Yellow, but his DE version was a DARKER Yellow, implying that DE Archsage is the earliest point of his own personal timeline.
he looks golden/light yellow, still (not pure white) :/
@@ArinJager1 ...and yet that still falls within line with the point I was trying to make. Are you sure you're replying to the right thread?
@@Starcat5 the torna version hes a halfsage, so hes probably training to be an arc sage then
@@seankock7649 ...huh. I just assumed that the Halfsage was a different Nopon entirely. So much so that I can't mentally visualize him, and as such have no memory of what his fur color was. For the sake of this theory, I'll just assume that he was the darkest shade of yellow on the timeline, and double check when I am NOT suffering from Strep Throat and related exhaustion.
The Extra-Story will feature the Noponis. No cap.
Lin Lee Koo as an Ascension quest boss for Ino? I'd actually like that... Maybe not for good reason, but hey.
Ino was a nice shot of Xenoblade 2's light tone and silliness but I'm hoping that the future dlc keeps up with the darker tone Xenoblade 3 had because personally I do think these games work better with a more mature tone.
it would make sense for DLC 3 to pose a conundrum of the mechanics of Xenoblade 1 ,so it could lead into DLC 4. Which will be inherently a darker tone. as it is the "ID world" out of ID and EGO.
so is the archsage more powerful than Zanza, Malos, Amalthus, Jin, and Z, since he just barges into their worlds
7:09 been telling everyone this for years. We nopons shall take over the endless now begin the endless pon
you silly owl penguins you ^^
I honestly disagree that consul A not being in the 1st 2 waves of dlc would mean it's a prequel, they could function differently from other Mobius like Z and somehow survive to be the villain of the dlc.
Or they might just say screw it and leave A as a loose end. Maybe A is just some unimportant loser, lol.
it may not be a prequel but just additional content during the main storyline progression. but I think most people are hoping that no Consul A means the story DLC has a higher chance of being an epilogue story where Noah and Mio reunite after Aionios is gone.
I still think there is no personified Consul A and that Moebius A is just Aionios, since N says on multiple occasions that "Moebius is the world itself."
I'm personally happy as snuff that my boy Tora might've gotten laid.
Yea, since Consul A isn't the Nopon Archesage, i'm guessing Consul A is MOST LIKELY Alvis. And that he will either be an important ally or the guy actually pulling the strings throughout the whole adventure.
I think Consul A is Aionios itself
Why would it be Alvis?.
A is potentially also Z since that would be a biblical reference (Alpha and Omega, the first and last letter of the alphabet, being a reference to God) to the same thing Deus was a reference to and Z is yet another partially Deus-like antagonist.
A, could theoretically be the next hero as Well.
This theory of "Consul A is Alvis" is so ridiculous in my opinion, not everything needs to be a fanservice that doesn't even makes sense
For me Consul A should be just Z's "Architect" counterpart (Like Z is the evil one like Zanza and A more of a flawed god or Aionios )
Noah saying "you only live once" might make sense if you're playing through the game with DLC from the beginning and find Ino early in Chapter 3.
It is slightly suspect if you were anywhere past the end of Chapter 4 and downright inexplicable if you're beyond the start of Chapter 6 when the DLC released.
The more I look at Ino’s face, the more she looks like Ringo from Soul Hackers 2. God I a Persona/Shin Megami Tensei x Xenoblade Chronicles Crossover.
I don't know, I've always considered things like the archsage and the fact that Shulk, Fiora and Elma appears in the land of challenge in Xeno 2 as pure non-canon fanservice (even in a quest in Xeno 2 in which Shulk, KOS-MOS and Elma are reunited it is clearly stated that "maybe someone just wanted to see them all together")
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I like to think that somehow the dot falling on the reunited worlds at the end of future redeemed is actually the white whale from Xenoblade X. That would even kind of explain what's "something about this planet" (although I've heard that someone thinks it's more related to Xenosaga than Xeno X, which I still have to play)
30:06 Tyrea 🤣. Her connection is weird though, she's Melia's halve sister, but not really.
Basicly the Emporer of the High Entia (Sorean, Melia's father) gets 2 wives. The first consort (Yumea) who is High entia as well and the Second consort who is homs/human.
Now Yumea had 2 kids, who are Kallian (Melia's halve brother) who is pure High Entia, and Tyrea.
The unnamed second consort who was homs had 1 child, which is Melia herself, making Melia a halve blood of being halve homs. This was done in an effort to dilude the bloodline of the High entia enough to free them from a curse. Lorithia was the first to exploit that curse, she betrayed everyone and turned everyone into Telethia. Well most, some that were halve bloods like Melia didn't get effected.
Later on we also get to know that Tyrea was a halve blood as well, so Yumea basicly cheated with a homs and got Tyrea, but Tyrea was rare and could hide this fact by being a halve blood, but with large head wings.
Tyrea got them dominant/recessive genes - is half-breed, looks like a pure-blood... I wonder who did Yumea do the thing with (that's some game of thrones $h*t)... Only Kallian isn't a "bastard" (Melia = legitimized bastard, Tyrea = bastard)
@@ArinJager1 Yeah the only pure blood child would be Kallian, but this also means that Kallian would be effected in the events if the High Entia would turn into Telethia (which did happen). It's why the emporer has 2 wives, one High Entia and one Homs.
Sadly we never get to see Melia's mother, also we don't know who Yumea got it on with and got Tyrea with.
This video honestly makes me want to have the DLC story to be a prequel focusing in riku.
Also when Tyrea started flying I literally got shook. I couldn't believe it.
I think we have enough evidence to say Mio Sena and Taion are not flesh eater, blade and blade eater, they are children of blades in and around the 10 year mark when it all went down.
Looking at Rex in the photo he looks about the age Zeke was in Xenoblade 2 so between 25 and 30, making him 35 to 40 when Origin was completed.
We know Riki had many kids by the time he was 40 so its not hard to imagine Tora having kids by then either, and with how nopon seem to survive the joining of world's I can imagine a child of Tora surviving and making artificial blades.
Also it's possible the world fo Xenoblade X is an alternate dimension, there is lore to back this up from how Klaus explains the universe to Rex.
Ino is probably in the same boat as the city people tbh in that regard if we go by the "OoSoo is toras son" logic ,but if blades can survive aionio's collision or some such then it cant be because toras son would be too young.
adult Rex looks like Malos, lol (Tora could adopt an orphaned nopon kid, like Riki)
Thanks Luxin
Lanz: Hold your Ponios!
me: there's Ponios in Aionios?
Not anymore there ain't, will all those fossils laying around.
So, Adam Howden has finally made his presence known in XC3?
In that case, I can now comfortably call XC3 an official Xenoblade game without feeling slighted.