And the great thing is that the oceans very aptly demonstrate that gravity works in all directions with everything attracting everything else. Which is why the Earth and the Moon rotate about each other around a point near the centre of the Earth (the Earth doesn't orbit much compared to the moon, but it is measurable) and the pull of the moon is what gives us twice daily tides through the Earth's rotation which are slowly offset due to the orbit of the moon so the tide times change.
They teach us everything except flat earth to keep us down. That doesn't sound very effective method. Pol Pot had very effective methods to keep people down, but that didn't work either.
Loving the "if we haven't dug down to the center of the Earth how can we know what's happening there?" Imagine going to the doctors for a checkup, having the doc take your pulse or check your heart rate and being like..... "now doc.... are you telling me that just by putting your hand on my chest you can tell that in the center of my so called cylindrical body there is a heart in there beating at 80BPM? without digging down into my chest and holding it and seeing it for yourself I just don't believe you!"
"How do they know what's in the core of the earth if they've only been down eight miles?" How do you know there's a firmament if you've never been to the ice wall?
"But we're not allowed to go to the ice wall!" I don't see anyone trying and getting arrested or sunk or whatever. You're really not allowed to go to Groom Lake Base and there are plenty of videos showing people being detained for doing exactly that.
I recently retired from my job as a Globe Priest and I have to say these flat Earth truth seekers are getting closer and closer to discovering our ultimate lie. I fear they will soon learn that the globe is not a globe but is in fact an oblate spheroid.
@@DeathBYDesign666 .... Or to me more precise... A TERRESTRIAL globe. Given that the terms; globe - globular, global are the generic nouns/adjectives to describe a shape of something spherical, ball-shaped, orb-shaped etc...
@@Deebz270 Also refers to objects that aren't spherical as well but roughly rounded display novelties or other desktop novelties. It's kind of a meaningless term or inaccurate term at the very least. Plus considering the conspiracy theory aspects globe believers, globalists, it makes more sense for them than it does to us. The point being there is a difference between the terms 'globe' and 'planet'. I am not a "globe earther" I am a "planet earther".
“Our brains don’t know the difference between a thought and actual reality” - an actual quote from an actual flat earther that they were happy to have put on film
@lamarw7757 "Film ?" Movie. It's probably recorded digitally rather than on film. The fact that it means the movie is actually all computer generated doesn't seem to bother flat Earthers, who claim actual photographs (on film) are CGI.
@@lamarw7757 This is indeed a term for putting something into a movie or television format. Film is actually very rarely used for Movies and TV now, but it used to be the only way to do it. Hence, the term is still used. Kind of like how you see floppy disks used as a "save" icon, even though floppy disks are all but extinct now. (Though...my line of work has me running into them both on occasion still)
I love how scientists are analysing distant neutron stars and probing the deepest mysteries of the universe and these clowns are revelling in their own ignorance.
Fun fact, they can't do maths. Ask them to solve x=1+y , y=1, what is the value of x And watch them go on a tangent of conspiracy theories and word spaghettis
I remember the days when I believed the whole Flat Earth thing was a bunch of people pretending to be stupid for the laughs. Now I know they’re not pretending, and it’s not for the laughs.
I'd say 99% of them are trolls doing it in the hope they trick a few people into giving them money. And sadly, there are enough morons in the world who throw money at them because "If I can't understand it, clearly it doesn't exist" seems reasonable to them.
They're either indoctrinated to the point of believing everything in their bumper book of fairy tales, or they're shills trying to -convince- con the gullible into believing it all.. at a price.
This is what I initially thought, too. I don't know, maybe they've found a niche thing where they're just happy to have a following of fools, much like clairvoyants. I'd be interested however to know the relative statistics in people who believed in flerfer 'theory' before the Internet, because it's clearly had a big hand in it.
With regard to the rocket exhaust plumes, SciManDan misses the major points: 1) As air pressure decreases, the rocket exhaust plume expands. 2) A large part of the brightness of a kerolox rocket plume is due to excess fuel continuing to burn after it leaves the nozzle. Thus the plume dims as the rocket gets into thinner air. But... 3) The launch is happening just before or just after sunset, and sunlight is hitting the exhaust plume, causing its ghostly appearance.
I think he was talking about the time a mini submersible tried to go into an extremely dense "brine lake" on the sea bed but couldn't penetrate it and bounced off when it tried. Still, it doesn't prove anything he said. Of course it doesn't.😁😁😁
@@ThunderboltWisdom Yet at the same time was able to put the manipulator arms under 'surface' in order to take samples of it. So not impenetrable it's just the sub itself couldn't sink into it. They just don't mention that.
@@ThunderboltWisdom That's possible. Such lakes are not very deep, as I understand it. I found a nice video on a channel called OceanX about the discovery of one in the Red Sea, called Discovering an Underwater Lake 6000 Feet Deep. I won't post the link because RUclips will probably delete my comment.
It's like this: Creationists: "evolution is just a theory!" People with common sense: "yea, a *scientific* theory. So is gravity." Flerfers: "hold my beer!"
Because the scientific meaning of the word theory is different than the common use of the same word. A scientific theory actually has a lot of proof. With a common use of the word theory, barely rises to the level of hypothesis.
@@neilkurzman4907This is false, theory means theory, people misuse theory to mean hypothesis but a theory is always a theory. Theory: a story consisting and linking together facts. Not all theories are true, but all theories are stories composed of facts, so you cannot just dismiss any theory by calling it a theory. Debunkers and atheists do this too, "That's just a conspiracy theory", that is using the fact that the story is a theory to dismiss it as true because it is a theory. If you actually want to show a theory is not true, you have to address the facts it is composed of and whether they actual have cause links together
@@neilkurzman4907It seems to me that the common usage of the word theory is most likely due to various media (radio, television, newspaper) throughout the 20th century misusing the term (especially in editorials). The general populace picked up on this, even if only subconsciously. Then politicians and pundits started to rely on the false meaning as merely a means to fuel inflammatory rhetoric. Many of these political slimeballs then used the "X is just a theory" statement to undermine scientific progress all for their own self-righteous purposes, generally religious or bigoted in nature. This constant misuse of the term theory eventually supplanted the official meaning amongst the populace, with substantial aid from the gradual undermining of public education from many of those same politicians.
I am not a flat-earther nor a Christian, but I believe in trying to be as respectful towards everyone as I can. These hateful and arrogant people aren't helping...
You know how dense those people are when their arguments consist of "Doesn't make any sense to me" and "It looks like this and that" Also by now I always have to surpress my urge to punch a wall every time I hear "It's just a theory"
"In school all I did is getting more crayon, I have studied nothing, I have no clue about anything, I don't understand your science stuff, therefore everything you say is wrong!" - about every flerfer
You were right, Dan: this is the worst yet. I am struck by a few things. First, what colossal losers these people are-some guy in a fishnet shirt in the desert, an Australian crack addict, some dude in a sweatshirt, an insecure cowboy who has to stand next to his cars to make you think that his money validates his idiotic opinions, and then there's whatever DITRH is. Can you imagine someone sharing this "documentary" with someone and presenting these people as experts? How are the people making this and sharing this not embarrassed beyond belief that these are the "authorities" they're appealing to? Second, I want to see a magnet that can negatively charge a piece of wood and get it to float.
I'm a geophysicist I've spent the last 25 years measuring and imaging variations in magnetism and gravity in order to map geological structures within the earth for mining and oil and gas exploration companies. I gave up long ago trying to explain to flat earthers how we do this, how the instruments work, what the data shows us, how it can't actually be faked etc.
Anyone call call Earth Flat. THAT REQUIRES 0 INTELLIGENCE! An INTELLIGENT person would offer ALTERNATE EXPLANATIONS that fit the known physics we currently use and experiment with at our leisure!? And how they work together and independently PERFECTLY? Thats what I thought................. ROUND EARTH PROOFS 'Seeing the Curve' at 50,000 ft... with your own eyes... EARTHS CURVED SHADOW ON THE MOONS SURFACE ECLIPSES Ships & Navigation. Radar Time Zones Gravity Tidal Wave actions Volcanos Coriolis effect Magnetism (compass/gyro) north/south diff Earthquakes Aurora Borealis Atmosphere Horizons Planetary movements Star patterns / trails Satellites (GPS) Thousands of PICS / VIDS from NASA/SPACEX/RUSSIA/CHINA Trees Moons Tidal Lock Density Ground breaking patented technologies traced directly backed to nasa Cartography (maps) LAVA Asteroid impact craters. Grand Canyon Marianas Trench Geothermal pockets Geysers / pools Weather Diamonds Minerals COAL OIL GOLD Continental Drift - Horizontal Sedimentary Rock formations billions of years old Glacier ice cores millions of years old 5mile long Trains that can show the curve. Bridges spanning water longer than 4miles
I'm certain they have no idea how the electronics in their devices work, all that pesky physics stuff, yet they have no problem using those devices to look up crap that they think backs up their superior knowledge on how the universe really works and the nature of reality from their equally dim social media posting chums.
Good. Earth is an extremely old star: How Planets are Formed, How Stars Evolve, Planetary Evolution, Stellar Evolution ruclips.net/video/CM0Hi0YwAJA/видео.html
I would suggest trying the reverse: mention that you have a device that shows a certain result, and have _them_ explain how you are able to get certain results from it. Like, when an earthquake happens at point A, earthquake detectors at point B and C (halfway across the surface of the Earth) will also go off, and this happens EVERY time... So if it's not a core that is deflecting P and S-waves of an earthquake, then what else is making those waves appear around the world so predictably? Or if the instruments are fake, why do the produce data that correlates with certain other verifiable results? Basically, don't give them something to deny, give them something they are put on the spot to have to explain. Now if they say "I don't know", then you can say something like _"so if a student asks us both to explain this phenomenon, how is your 'I don't know' more convincing than my proper explanation of the principles of what is happening?"_ The conversation can keep going but the point is to never let them reach a point where they can just deny something, I always try to get them to explain themselves, and that is something they can never do.
Do flat earthers ever explain why they think all the worlds governments have decided thar the one thing they agree to cooperate on is lying to everyone about the shape of the earth?
They only pretend to not agree on everything else. They get together at the WEF to decide how they will disagree on all other subjects. See that proves how pervasive this conspiracy is!
All these governments most of the times can't even agree on the most trivial agenda but somehow these governments agree to cooperate lying to everyone on this planet about the shape of the planet. Especially Russian & Peoples' Republic of China are not on good terms with US government they have much more motivation to humiliate US government but they didn't do it. Oh ya not forgetting which government is responsible to guarding the ice wall?
I guess none of these flerfers would want an ultrasound, CT scan, X-Ray or MRI to diagnose a medical problem. They would insist that a doctor cut into them just diagnose a problem. After all one can't possibly know anything about the interior of something unless one physically goes there.
They are all profoundly ignorant of how much work and incredibly brilliant thought goes into devising ways to scientifically investigate things that beyond our simple senses. Some of these dullards would assert that a lot of these things don't even qualify as science because they didn't start with the child's version of "the" scientific method - observing something in nature. It's true. We haven't observed Earth's core in the simplest meaning of the word (picture Howard ThreeNames pointing at his eye with his forefinger and drawling "observvvvvved"). We don't need to.All we need to do is say "We'd like to know more about ... How do we set about to learn more?"
Definitely the arrogance. Stupid people aren't a problem, its when those stupid people think they are smarter than actual smart people that I have an issue with them.
The greatest mystery is how can someone ask a question like "how can they know this" over and over again without ever actually trying to find out how they know the thing, then say that's impossible. Stupidity is so f@#$ing frustrating.
The greatest mystery is how can someone ask a question like "how can someone ask a question like 'how can they know this' over and over again without ever actually trying to find out how they know the thing" over and over again without ever actually trying to find out why they don't actually trying to find out how they (other they) know the thing. Sorry :D
@@morbuzakh But what you fail to get is the people I'm talking about has already made up their mind on the notion of believing their own senses which is the worse thing you can do. Because of this belief anything that goes against their senses they won't even entertain it much less to try to understand how the conclusion was arrived at. So no I don't understand why they won't try to understand what is right in front of them but that don't make what I said less valid. He said "that's not possible" without knowing why, it's not my job to find out why, all I can do is ask; No matter how you slice it, saying something that is a known fact is impossible because you are too (insert reason) to research it is stupid.
I think this is why this has popped up during the days of the internet. If you were a flat earther in the 80s, you were on your own. Nowadays, you can find others that believe the same exact stuff as you.
"So they way that I see it" 5:07 "What I believe" 6:53 Such a key lines for all flat earthers and conspiracy theorists. I have this IDEA that I believe is true, with no mathematical proof, no visual proof, no publications, no model. Just a MISTAKEN gut feeling...And they can't even agree with each other
Between all the word salad, the "All of science is a lie, except for the parts we like. Evidence, what's that?", "Gravity is just a theory", "Helium ballons shouldn't fly with gravity" and "There's just density and buoyancy" from people that had that explained to them dozens of times this is more a meme collection than a documentary.
@@jerenoize Well no, but it'd be nice if they were able to bring anything new except for "We need to become masters of vibration" to the table. This helium ballon and density/buoyancy crap is so tired and obviously dumb, they are making themselves look bad still using it, just like Nathan "I have never been on a mountain" Oakley and his beloved "gas pressure in a container equalizes" argument.
@@Elhao I know, I'm tired of this bullshit too. As an amateur astronomer, I am sad to see that people fail to be enchanted by the beauty of the sky and space. Their life is sad, it must really be horrible to see the world the way they see.
@@Elhao They don't care that they look bad to anyone with an average education and an average ability to think critically, just like online scammers don't care that most people know there's no African millionaire looking to transfer funds to their account. They're all just targeting the most gullible and most stupid people on the planet.
"The cabal doesn't want us to know the earth is flat!! But they are leaving breadcrumbs because they want us to know the earth is flat!!!" The cognitive dissonance is amazing.
They keep saying all this nonsense and spending a lot of money on these documentaries, but none of them ever consider setting up an expedition to the "edge" of the Earth that they strongly believe in. I would love to see them do it.
Exactly, just rent a ship and live stream the whole thing. But I guess they're terrified of uncovering the biggest secret in human history and confirming the very thing they've devoted their lives to... :/
These morons could've already booked a spaceflight for all of them with the money they wasted or got from their equally moronic fanbase. But they won't because they seem to be a) grifters that just talk bullshit for money or b) REALLY believe this crap and have some mental problem that let's them live in an alternative reality. Some of these people are borderline mentally ill and everytime I see a video from CC for example, I fear that this guy some day will snap and run with a gun into the next walmart.
There would be no need to create NASA and spend billions and billions of dollars on CGI, secret film studios and cover-ups to fool that buffoon. A couple of balloons and some idiotic memes would do the trick.
I have recently become a huge SciManDan fan and love the channel. Brings a smile to me at every debunking. Well done Dan. I really didn't think there were people out there so stupid.
Every flerfers favorite line "I don't understand it therefore its impossible!" That is my favorite. The truth is that there is not much of anything that any flerfer thinks.
I used to believe that magnetic north was a big pile of "load stone" situated near the north pole. Then I went to school - I was 8 when I learned how magnetic north really works - I was 14 when I learned that it can reverse - this was when the Mid-Oceanic Ridge was being studied and the "magnetic tape" was being discovered. I am glad I grew up and became a geologist - I have loved studying the earth.
Flat Earth muppets believe in the "North Pole" but don't believe in a "South Pole". They have either just discovered the monopole or they're too stupid to realise just how stupid they really are... I'm guessing the latter.
""look! we're running into a solid barrier!" they're hitting the dome" ...how come they keep moving when they are supposedly hitting a solid barrier? last time i checked, cars tend to stop when hitting a wall, not phase right through.
Because first it is solid, but then it's a liquid. See flerfs say one thing and when it doesn't fit the narrative, at that moment, they change the narrative. Only to say the first thing again untill it doesn't fit anymore and so on. That's why I like them so much, an infinite source of idiocracy😂😂😂
@@wilcowiersma9465 ohh, so the firmament is a non-newtonian fluid. Got it. They really just like to make up whatever they want in order to make it fit their narrative, but that only makes it more confusing as each con man says something slightly different and none of it adds up
If you take that silliness seriously, you would have a dome so low that it would be just above your head by the time you got to Antarctica. Flat earth claims never add up.
@@tompiper9276 All the Penguins that learned to fly flew up into the firmament and swam away into the water of space. That’s why we’re left with the flightless Penguins on Earth.
04:46 All I can think of watching this _gish gallop_ is *Brandolini's Law,* which states: _“The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude larger than that needed to produce it.”_ _“There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there always has been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.””_ -Dr. Isaac Asimov, *NEWSWEEK* Op-ed, 21 January 1980
@@redsfanwakey It's the wardrobe equivalent of an inverted-mullet: Party up front, business in the back. EDIT: OH, my bad! I read this before I got to that part. I assumed you were talking about Santos and his one-button button-down shirts! I'll leave the comment because it's true for Santos. I don't know what to call that guy's shirt...
These people have absolutely no understanding of what theyre talking about, but see themselves as experts in all of it. Its amazing how strong dunning kruger effect can be with some people. I hineslty think they believe the bs and its not a grift. Im not the sharpest knife in the kitchen but these guys are just a spoon saying its a knife
So if gravity can't be real because it's "impossible" for something to hold down a skyscraper, but fail to hold down a balloon, wouldn't their electromagnetic force also be "impossible" because it also fails to hold down a balloon?
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1:10 "I'm not sure what they're doing" is the only truthful thing anyone other that Dan says in the whole video. (small rant) I am not that smart, but I work in civil engineering, so I'm surrounded by smart people. There is so much about the world I don't know, and I am keenly aware of that fact. Every day I try to learn something so I won't make the same mistakes tomorrow as I did today. As I watch these guys, I have to admit, on some level, I wish I was that stupid. The world is so much simpler when you have the outlook of a toddler. Keep up the great work Dan.
I love it when they site buoyancy as the true alternative to gravity. Look up any formula or model from how buoyancy works and you’ll eventually find a big fat G staring you down that the whole thing collapses without
I *think* the part where he's going on about bouncing off the bottom of the ocean is a reference to a fairly new (at least I've not heard of it until recently) conspiracy theory that the bottom of the ocean isn't actually the bottom. It basically centres around a documentary maker who, while filming, came across a brine lake at the bottom of the sea where he was filming. He describes attempting to go into the lake with the sub but 'bounces off the surface', and he unfortunately died in an accident very soon after. Which of course led to the conspiracy theory that he was killed for showing something he shouldn't.
oh the brine lake is cool as hell, shame they've stolen it for their stupidity. Also the sub could easily push down into it, but it was shallow off memory.
I think that was Mike De Gruys (sp?). They often claim the helicopter crash that killed him was "THEM" making sure he didn't tell anyone about the secret. Even though it was in an incredibly popular BBC natural history series, and the helicopter crash was 14 years later. Obviously, if you want to stop people revealing your conspiracy, you let them make a tv series about it, then wait over a decade before "silencing" them. Makes perfect sense...
So if it's all electrostatic then planes don't need engines, wings, propellers, etc. All we would need is a metal enclosure and put a charge on it and away it goes.
What actually bothers me the most is that they don't even present their own (dumb) theories. The majority of the "documentary" is just about to smear accepted facts. Their disposition to go against the established science is bigger than their will to come up with an alternative idea. I know it's dumb whatever they do, but they should think along the lines "here is why the earth is flat" not "here is why all of you are wrong".
They know the earth is a globe, so they can't proof a flat earth. They just disprove a globe so they can feel special. That's why everything they say doesn't work in the real world, there's no flat earth model, no pictures of the icewall because there isn't an icewall. They just make up stuff like armed NASA penguins that protect the icewall, or something like that. Most of these flerfs know it's a globe, they are just a bunch of scammers and grifters preying on the gullible.
electrostatics, as an electronics engineer, i have to make sure that at certain times, everything is grounded, to prevent damage via electrostatic discharge, a wierd thing is that when we ground everything and reduce the charge to as close to 0 as possible nothing starts floating around the room.
We have two 500kV DC Transmission lines, one negative and one positive wrt earth. I have stood under each and did not float up or be pushed down under either. Furthermore I have also stood under serveral 275kV AC transmission lines and I was not vibrated up and down at system frequency.
I got approached from a flat Earther a while ago spewing his shit. All I could say was, "Are you ignorant or stupid because it's one of the two." And walked away.
My father used to work on seismic analysis. They never needed to drill a single hole to find underground features (yes, back in the old days, they did "shots" but that hasn't been done for a long time). They deployed something called a "shaker truck" which uses hydraulic pads slamming the ground up to 1000Hz to send waves through the ground, reflecting off of underground features and picked up by lines of geophones, to give them a very good idea of what is up to 15,000 feet underground. All without drilling a single hole. All oil exploration depends on the scientific field of seismology.
Ive always hated the whole "gravity doesnt make things fall, its just density/bouyancy!" Argument. Its the same as "there is no electricity powering our tv. Its just wires and cables!"
For several years I was very active as a debunker on various "conspiracy" forums. These days I mostly just support debunker channels on RUclips. But I was thinking as I watched this video how it's just sad. It's sad how these hysterics constantly lie about the self-evident nature of our physical world. I think some of them might even believe their own hysteria, as if they've gaslighted themselves. It's weird and it's sad.
Funny you should say that. Some of the fact checkers employed by websites and social media start to believe conspiracies simply by virtue of being constantly barraged with them day in, day out. It's a recognised psychological phenomenon.
@ about 12:00; if the ground gives the atoms in our bodies (and everything else) equilibrium, then wouldn't all the atoms on earth just lay flat on the ground, in a big puddle?
A submersible wasn't able to penetrate the bottom of the ocean? The solid rock covered in sand that forms the ocean floor? I wonder why it couldn't get through 🤡
I do find it fascinating how they will happily accept one invisible force but not the other. Like how water flowing from a faucet can bend significantly towards a charged balloon and yet water can't be attracted to a giant piece of rock due to an other force.
my favorite part is if you just drop something and demonstrate it exists they cannot fathom that something had to make the object go down and not some other arbitrary direction. best part is if you ask a flat earther to imagine an object floating as no force is acting on it. their brains shatter like spun glass.
I was thinking the same thing. They agree with the science that suggest that these tiny little atomic structures can attract and repel each other with such tremendous force that it governs the behaviour of all matter and yet the idea of a huge clump of matter attracting other clumps of matter is just a government conspiracy to keep you from the truth. It always blows my mind that flat Earthers can believe in (and use) some pretty intense physics principles and yet one of the fundamental forces of the universe is complete nonsense.
@@gryph01 The denial of gravity isn't arbitrary. To have a flat Earth, gravity *_can't_* exist. If gravity existed, the mass of the Earth wouldn't be able to keep a flat shape. The mass would collapse on itself and form a spherical shape. If gravity was the "force" that made things "fall down," their flat Earth wouldn't be able to hold anything down. That's why they are now talking about electrostatics and electromagnetism. Of course, they are either too stupid to realize, or do realize but are *_lying,_* that their arguments against gravity are even better arguments against electrostatics being the cause. If electrostatics holds "all the ocean" down, why aren't we stuck to the ground? They even admit that the electromagnetic force is *_STONGER_* than gravity, so it should be *_HARDER_* than gravity to overcome!
Also, the core never stopped, it's still spinning almost at the same rate as the surface. It used to be going a little faster (ie, a point on the surface would rotate slightly slower than the same point below in the core) now, the core is rotating slightly slower. So it stooped- *relative to the earth's surface-* and then slowed further, so that now, *relative to the surface of earth* the core is rotating backwards.
Flat earthers: "the rocket bounces off the firmament" *shows footage of the rockets continuing straight on the same trajectory and not at all "bouncing" off*🤦🏽♀️😂
> you'll see the rocket hit the firmament, explode, like watery, and then it will skim along the surface of the firmament Now I'm interested to know what Santos means when he says "explode" and what a "watery explosion" looks like. On second thought, I'd prefer not to. 🙈
My immediate question would be, if they are clearly hitting a dome, WHY would they need to "give us bread crumbs"? The whole world would be seeing them hit a dome with waves of water as clear as day if that is the case...WHY then would then need to drip out the truth if we all saw it anyway?
just imagine a rocket hitting a body of water at over 24,000mph, the rocket would more then likely disintegrate on impact, it would vaporize the water surrounding it creating a cavity/plume and cause moderately large waves through the water like a small tsunami and here they are saying it's just skimming along the dome 😆
I just had a thought about the electro static stuff and grounding. What about being underground? A helium balloon in a cave still goes up, surely it should float at the centre equally away from all the surrounding earth if they are right
You know that they will say the balloon isn’t deep enough. Then they will say it happens below a depth of 8 miles. Interestingly the exact depth we can go beyond. Which then brings up another question, if globe earth scientists can’t see beyond 8 miles depth so therefore are “making shit up” logically the same can be said about Flat Earthers.
Electrostatics do not replace gravity for the simple reason, electrostatics both attract and repel, gravity only attracts. Aryabhata about 1,500 years ago, hypothesised the Earth had an attractive force which was why objects fell to the ground.
I actually feel bad for the people, it must be tormenting to think your life is a lie and there’s a giant conspiracy. Not the fact there’s more slaves alive today than ever, this is there focus. I hope they get some peace and find a worthy cause one day.
I saw some flat earther actually say he was listening to a David weiss podcast, imagine wasting hours of your life listening to his drivel, somehow thinking he's profound and "waking you up"...
I've heard some of these guys who are also on the hard core Bible thumping wagon say they actually believe that, slavery was a good thing." One of them even said slavery was "good for Africans because we brought them to this country"... ya... just when you thought you heard the most disgusting words a person could say.... theres a "good Christian" there to bring humanity to a new low.
I think it comes down to opinion, that is, are they totally ignorant of basic human knowledge, are they even close to being as stupid as they sound, or are they just liars?
@@SeanMahoneyfitnessandart And this muslim Daniel says marrying 9-year-olds to 50-year men is OK, is consensual... Religion can easily be abused to excuse your vanity, your aspiration to superiority. It CAN be used to give people hope, make them better people, make society better, to regulate society. I CAN see this potential. Probably many "use" their religions this way. Are halfway tolerant. But what I miss totally is that these "good" christians would go vehemently against those that abuse THEIR God for enrichment, manipulation etc.
Well... one would need to add theists, linguists, believers in politics, & perpetual-motioners to FEs (meaning anybody who accepts the authority of others rather than the consistent repeatability required by science) to get to that 20-point increase. Which btw would bring the IQ-level in the USA back up to 100! Actually, imho the worst of the lot are the linguistic "authorities" who come up with "explanations" that ought to make even a rabid Flat-Earther think twice. OOPS! I mean '"START to actually THINK".
Actually, many members of ANY group that I listed are actually also members of many of the OTHER listed groups. Probable cause: they had Mrs Grundy type teachers...
@@StormsandSaugeye Nothing. I am not happy with how we users of language mistreat them & how teachers & other so-called "authorities" perpetuate our stupidities.
As far as I can make out - their only argument exists of "I do not understand and anything anybody else says I do not believe because I do not understand"
What's most disappointing about some of these guys is that their questions are sometimes good questions (ie: How do we know the spinning inside the earth is changing?). That's curiosity. That's the root of science. The problem is that instead of finding out the answer by asking someone who's a specialist in that field, they just shrug it off as "i don't understand it, must be fake".
The thing is, even though you and I might interpret what they are saying as questions, to a flat Earther it's simply a "Gotcha!" - they have absolutely no interest in finding out the why of the question they've asked, only to parrot it ad infinitum like a hex or a charm to ward off the evil "globetards".
Has any flat earther tried to document how the world government stopped them trying to start a business around these free energy secrets they seem to know about?
I have often pondered why certain nations (eg. Red China, the old USSR) did not use all these alternative energy sources when pioneering remote locations that were off-grid. If developing a mine in Siberia, why not set up a Tesla device to suck energy out of the atmosphere, rather than transport generators, and at the same time show the capitalist world how it could be done. Or maybe it just doesn't work.
Those hovering things don’t even work how they imagine that they do. They can’t even lift much more than their own weight and once above a certain size no longer work. They are nothing more then a fun novelty that scammers have latched onto to fleece people. And something that expends current and electric wattage is not free energy.
They really should do their own research. I would LOVE to see a flat earther livestream where they take an anvil and give it negative static electric charge and then expect it to float up into the sky like a baloon as their hypothesis predicts.
In the high voltage lab at university, we charged our secretary, who had very lon blonde hair, up to a million volts with the van der Graaf generator.. All that floated up was her long blonde hair in a big fan shape as each strand repelled each other. She, however remaind firmly pulled down on the insulator.
@@clivedavis6859 If the earth in its entirety would be negatively charged it would blow it self apart, due to the repelling force between those negative charges. Or imagine digging a hole, the dirt would just fly away. The reason why gravity works is that it lacks a repelling component (at least for normal matter). So the earth can keep itself together with gravity while also attracting other objects to it. On top of that if the earth had a negative charge and we had a positive charge... why don't we discharge if we are on the ground?
They will argue that they did do the experiment and point to the very video in the documentary where he charged the balloon. They know all too well that anything heavier than that would not yield the results they want so they bury the videos of them trying and refuse to livestream themselves trying(insert a BS excuse here) Remember anything that goes against the narrative must be denied.
Dan I have to thank you for creating a safe space for us to release our frustrations with these idiots. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve written out a full comment completely debunking a flat earther before taking a second to breathe and delete the comment before posting, because it’s completely pointless to argue with them.
Poor guy really thought standing in-front of a GTR would get people to validate his insane delusions. I honestly do not believe these people take themselves seriously. Great video as always, Dan!
Nothing but superficial nonsense, as far as I'm concerned. It certainly doesn't bolster his supposed argument, which boils down to, 'I don't believe it, therefore it's not true.' Which is no argument at all.
Honestly, I did very much so notice the car. No clue what it is, don’t care, but I can tell people probably think it’s expensive or rare or something. But the problem is I laughed at the fact that he decided to talk in front of it. It just makes him look sad. Nothing say “I could never hope to make enough money to own this” like causally and very purposefully putting it in the background. It’s screams “poor because I’m really dumb”.
Just a weak flex. For no other reason than to show how much stuff hes got. The unintended "flex" it seems that hes rather insecure because of his multiple attempts at this flex.
"Our brains can't tell the difference between a thought and what is real". Oh dear. The Flerfs have long had trouble with the "small vs far away" thing from Father Ted, now it looks like they need Dougal's diagram that shows that dreams are inside the head and reality is outside.
SciManDan, I'm going to see a citation to support the statement of yours at 6:01 that the South Atlantic Anomaly is mainly caused by the pressure of the Solar Wind. If that were the case, it would ring the Earth because of Earth's rotation.
I totally believe the dude standing in the desert. Not because he's making any sense, but because he's wearing a sleeveless, mesh hoodie and is well muscled.
FYI Sciman.About four months ago here in Melbourne in the paper's death notices the surname Bonnaci came up.One of his children was a certain Santos...if this was Santos' father then it's sad he died knowing his son was a fool.
6:35 Another big issue they have is two logical flaws and one misconception. Having direct evidence is not required to prove something - circumstantial also means works. It is winter at -1 C and there is nothing on the ground but dirt. You wake up 6 hours later and everything is covered with snow and ice. You surmise it snowed. Not that a fleet of Air Force Bombers flew over and dropped a ton of snow on you. Second flaw, the need to physically see a cause or the effect is non-existent. Let’s be clear, I assume this man has a brain and sunburns just as fast as I would. But I don’t have to cut him open to validate the former or subject him to 7 hours of sunlight to prove the latter. Just seeing evidence is enough. Our both our lives are constantly affected by things we can’t see from the racist thoughts of some persons to radio waves that make our cell phones work. And as a third issue. He is unfortunately ignorant of his ablism bias. No people that are blind can tell the difference between thoughts, beliefs and reality. While some have issues with circadian rhythms, they know that their dog is a good boy and that the rent is too damn high. Sad really.
If you had no knowledge of snow and saw snow for the first time; you could also presume it grew out of the ground. Because we've observed plants grow, we know plants are associated with the ground. And the snow is on the ground. Easily provable by seeing snow fall from the sky, attempting to recreate snow by growing the same plants as what's in your garden, looking at snow closely to find it's not a living organism, etc. But they don't want to test ideas with control; they state a thing, then find evidence to support it and hide or disagree with everything that doesn't. It's an attention grab for money.
"Not that a fleet of Air Force Bombers flew over and dropped a ton of snow on you"... Hehe, do you remember when it snowed last winter in Texas and some idiots claimed it was "government snow". Yeah. People ARE actually THAT DUMB.
@@ScampcamIt is true that process they are using is ignore exploration and fact finding and pounce on a belief that they self selected. They may or may not get it because they are bound by things like an anti-Science bias and a feeling that people are lying to them. This can be reinforced by mental/social issues in which the group becomes a support group for the injured and lonely members. They do have to believe in outdated concepts of Science and the Earth is flat and then everything makes sense. How does that work? The people that have hurt you are a vast conspiracy and they are the reason you don’t understand things in the world. They have made your wife cheat on you because you were too close. He’s they hurt you but the camaraderie of other believers will fill that hole in your life. The friendship of others will help fill the space having no mate has left. Or just a better explanation for you being the failure at math and Science that you were (This last one tracks really well with the lack of funding in minority and traditionally poor white communities there they often get 1/2 to 1/4 the funding of white communities it the reasons are obscured even as the effects are obvious). Sorry that this is long but I wanted to get this idea across - that they are not stupid or willfully ignorant of the world but in SOME cases they just are proof of our failed societal and educational systems.
The guy who said we have to become masters of vibration…………….he’s been watching too many Flash movies/TV shows and animations believing they’re biographies
Flafers Be like : Gravity is just difference in Density Gravity is just things that are Electro-Statically charged Gravity is just magic Gravity is just an Illusions
@@chrisantoniou4366 I actually think he isn't a real flat earther. Maybe he was at one point. However he's a snake oil salesman and doesn't want to lose his income or his cult like following.
@@Fairburne69 There's no reason why he can't be both. However, one would think that he could put together a more convincing "argument" than stringing a lot of meaningless pseudo sounding words together. Perhaps his followers lap it up because they don't have to understand it, they only have to believe it, and if you throw enough sciency sounding words together and look like you know what you're talking about, they will attach themselves to it believing they too are real "scientists". Both leaders and followers of the flat Earth delusion are sad losers.
2:40 And this is why I hate that prople have changed the meaning of "Meme" from "individual modification of information to create something new" to "a captioned image". That is not a meme, a unique modification of existing information - flat earth is a meme unto itself because it has no definite assertions and continually changes - but the same cross-section image that has been in text books my entire life.
11:29 That isn't how logic works. An example of one object under some effect moving up or down does not imply that all objects that move up or down follow the same principle. An example does not prove a universally quantified ("for all") statement.
Witsit likes to claim he's not just tossing word salads but that last part. "It seems we are prohibited from going too far down because of PRESSURE MEDIATION IN A MAGNETIC FIELD."
I don't really understand how it "keeps us dumbed down" in any way. Let's say that the world is flat after all. What, exactly, does anybody gain from some vast conspiracy that it is a globe? In what way does that make us "dumb"? On the other hand, learning how to interpret and analyse data, including physical observations, all somehow seem to point to a globe Earth in a heliocentric solar system. Makes no sense, but then if Dave could make sense he wouldn't be a flerf.
@@jonathanmormerod Yeah, I love that one as well. Because a) it's not like tHeY don't already have loads of good stuff and b), tHeY wouldn't want a load of paeons to mine/build/maintain all of the good stuff for tHeM. It's almost like the flerfs don't really understand how humans work, let alone the physical world.
So we get sent to school to learn tons of stuff. The some move on to univeristy to learn more tons of stuff. The into the workspace where we have to use all the tons of stuff we learnt and it works. This all "dumbs us down"?
How do doctors know what is inside of your body? Do they have to drill holes in your body or into your skull to find out? Or is there some other way to use modern technology to figure these things out? 😳
When these guys talk about the motivation for Them to conceal the allegedly flat Earth, I am reminded of a scene in the film _Total Recall" in which a Rekall employee asks Quaid whether it's more likely that he's experiencing the effects of the "secret agent" memory implant he requested, or that he's really a secret agent who's the target of an interplanetary conspiracy to convince him he's a lowly construction worker. Or the episode of _Buffy_ in which she finds she's been committed to a psychiatric ward due to her persistent psychotic delusion that she's a superhero who fights vampires, demons, and the forces of evil.
Too late. Biden said in a leaked Zoom call that the US is doomed unless African Americans and Hispanics can work together since whites will become another minority in the US in 2045.
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I'm sorry, I absolutely lost it at "if there's a force strong enough to hold oceans to the planet, we should all be stuck to the ground"
"Why aren't we all stuck to the ground" asks man standing on the ground
I looked at my feet when he said that 😂
@@sander7838 I've got my feet up at the moment, so maybe he was on to something...
I can't believe he made that statement.........Mr Kruger would be so proud
And the great thing is that the oceans very aptly demonstrate that gravity works in all directions with everything attracting everything else. Which is why the Earth and the Moon rotate about each other around a point near the centre of the Earth (the Earth doesn't orbit much compared to the moon, but it is measurable) and the pull of the moon is what gives us twice daily tides through the Earth's rotation which are slowly offset due to the orbit of the moon so the tide times change.
David Weiss: “They’re trying to keep us dumbed down.”
Everyone else: “No, you’re doing that all by yourself, David.”
They seemed to have missed the Sesame Street episode where we/you and us/they got explained, so mixing these up all the time?
Professor Dave owning David will always be great too 😂
Q: Hey, Who is "they" you mean, david?
A: Oh, Flat Earthers! 😂
They teach us everything except flat earth to keep us down.
That doesn't sound very effective method.
Pol Pot had very effective methods to keep people down, but that didn't work either.
They are trying to keep us dumb, just not for the reason flat earthers think.
Loving the "if we haven't dug down to the center of the Earth how can we know what's happening there?" Imagine going to the doctors for a checkup, having the doc take your pulse or check your heart rate and being like..... "now doc.... are you telling me that just by putting your hand on my chest you can tell that in the center of my so called cylindrical body there is a heart in there beating at 80BPM? without digging down into my chest and holding it and seeing it for yourself I just don't believe you!"
😂😂😂
"How do they know what's in the core of the earth if they've only been down eight miles?"
How do you know there's a firmament if you've never been to the ice wall?
Instead of typing the question into google they set up a camera... there's no hope for them.
All their proofs are in their talking-snake book. It always comes back to the talking-snake book.
"But we're not allowed to go to the ice wall!" I don't see anyone trying and getting arrested or sunk or whatever. You're really not allowed to go to Groom Lake Base and there are plenty of videos showing people being detained for doing exactly that.
@@davidg4288 First, they don’t really want to know. Second, they don’t have the guts to try.
By that same logic, how do they know the firmament isn't ten feet below them, they have never dug that far.
I recently retired from my job as a Globe Priest and I have to say these flat Earth truth seekers are getting closer and closer to discovering our ultimate lie. I fear they will soon learn that the globe is not a globe but is in fact an oblate spheroid.
Or, to be even more exact, a geoid
Even a perfect sphere is not necessarily a globe, because a globe is a "model" of the earth.
NASA would like to know your location
@@DeathBYDesign666 .... Or to me more precise... A TERRESTRIAL globe.
Given that the terms; globe - globular, global are the generic nouns/adjectives to describe a shape of something spherical, ball-shaped, orb-shaped etc...
@@Deebz270 Also refers to objects that aren't spherical as well but roughly rounded display novelties or other desktop novelties. It's kind of a meaningless term or inaccurate term at the very least. Plus considering the conspiracy theory aspects globe believers, globalists, it makes more sense for them than it does to us. The point being there is a difference between the terms 'globe' and 'planet'. I am not a "globe earther" I am a "planet earther".
“Our brains don’t know the difference between a thought and actual reality” - an actual quote from an actual flat earther that they were happy to have put on film
That's a breadcrumb that the flat Earthers have left for us to figure out that they know they are just bull$h!++!ng.
I mean at least they are being honest about it.
Film ?
@lamarw7757 "Film ?"
Movie. It's probably recorded digitally rather than on film.
The fact that it means the movie is actually all computer generated doesn't seem to bother flat Earthers, who claim actual photographs (on film) are CGI.
@@lamarw7757 This is indeed a term for putting something into a movie or television format.
Film is actually very rarely used for Movies and TV now, but it used to be the only way to do it. Hence, the term is still used. Kind of like how you see floppy disks used as a "save" icon, even though floppy disks are all but extinct now.
(Though...my line of work has me running into them both on occasion still)
I love how scientists are analysing distant neutron stars and probing the deepest mysteries of the universe and these clowns are revelling in their own ignorance.
and this FE clowns typically a scammer and liar. and they don't feel shame using conspiracies as facts. 😂
Reveling, wallowing, drowning.
So many applicable verbs, so little time.
Some of them are simple people and some are hoaxters.
Fun fact, they can't do maths.
Ask them to solve x=1+y , y=1, what is the value of x
And watch them go on a tangent of conspiracy theories and word spaghettis
We all have our own strengths. Scientists probe the universe, flaties probe the empty space between their ears.
I remember the days when I believed the whole Flat Earth thing was a bunch of people pretending to be stupid for the laughs. Now I know they’re not pretending, and it’s not for the laughs.
It's not for the laughs. It's for the money!
There are true believers, but the majority of people in this video, like Weiss, Whitsitt, and Bonacci, are just grifters.
I'd say 99% of them are trolls doing it in the hope they trick a few people into giving them money.
And sadly, there are enough morons in the world who throw money at them because "If I can't understand it, clearly it doesn't exist" seems reasonable to them.
They're either indoctrinated to the point of believing everything in their bumper book of fairy tales, or they're shills trying to -convince- con the gullible into believing it all.. at a price.
This is what I initially thought, too. I don't know, maybe they've found a niche thing where they're just happy to have a following of fools, much like clairvoyants. I'd be interested however to know the relative statistics in people who believed in flerfer 'theory' before the Internet, because it's clearly had a big hand in it.
With regard to the rocket exhaust plumes, SciManDan misses the major points:
1) As air pressure decreases, the rocket exhaust plume expands.
2) A large part of the brightness of a kerolox rocket plume is due to excess fuel continuing to burn after it leaves the nozzle. Thus the plume dims as the rocket gets into thinner air. But...
3) The launch is happening just before or just after sunset, and sunlight is hitting the exhaust plume, causing its ghostly appearance.
A submarine that wasn't able to 'penetrate the bottom of the ocean'? Well, colour me surprised!
Yeah, if it did the oceans would have drained away...
Captain, We've hit a firmament or something. Shall we arm torpedoes ?
I think he was talking about the time a mini submersible tried to go into an extremely dense "brine lake" on the sea bed but couldn't penetrate it and bounced off when it tried. Still, it doesn't prove anything he said. Of course it doesn't.😁😁😁
@@ThunderboltWisdom Yet at the same time was able to put the manipulator arms under 'surface' in order to take samples of it. So not impenetrable it's just the sub itself couldn't sink into it. They just don't mention that.
@@ThunderboltWisdom That's possible. Such lakes are not very deep, as I understand it. I found a nice video on a channel called OceanX about the discovery of one in the Red Sea, called Discovering an Underwater Lake 6000 Feet Deep. I won't post the link because RUclips will probably delete my comment.
Saying "X is just a theory" directly shows that they have no idea what they are talking about.
It's like this:
Creationists: "evolution is just a theory!"
People with common sense: "yea, a *scientific* theory. So is gravity."
Flerfers: "hold my beer!"
Because the scientific meaning of the word theory is different than the common use of the same word.
A scientific theory actually has a lot of proof. With a common use of the word theory, barely rises to the level of hypothesis.
@@neilkurzman4907This is false, theory means theory, people misuse theory to mean hypothesis but a theory is always a theory.
Theory: a story consisting and linking together facts.
Not all theories are true, but all theories are stories composed of facts, so you cannot just dismiss any theory by calling it a theory. Debunkers and atheists do this too, "That's just a conspiracy theory", that is using the fact that the story is a theory to dismiss it as true because it is a theory.
If you actually want to show a theory is not true, you have to address the facts it is composed of and whether they actual have cause links together
@@neilkurzman4907 I thought my comment already made clear, that I understand the difference.
@@neilkurzman4907It seems to me that the common usage of the word theory is most likely due to various media (radio, television, newspaper) throughout the 20th century misusing the term (especially in editorials). The general populace picked up on this, even if only subconsciously. Then politicians and pundits started to rely on the false meaning as merely a means to fuel inflammatory rhetoric. Many of these political slimeballs then used the "X is just a theory" statement to undermine scientific progress all for their own self-righteous purposes, generally religious or bigoted in nature. This constant misuse of the term theory eventually supplanted the official meaning amongst the populace, with substantial aid from the gradual undermining of public education from many of those same politicians.
I am not a flat-earther nor a Christian, but I believe in trying to be as respectful towards everyone as I can.
These hateful and arrogant people aren't helping...
Idiot
You know how dense those people are when their arguments consist of "Doesn't make any sense to me" and "It looks like this and that"
Also by now I always have to surpress my urge to punch a wall every time I hear "It's just a theory"
A.K.A Incredulity isn't evidence
These people confuse theory and hypothesis. They can't even open a dictionary.
@@evo-labsthe bible doesn't make sense, ergo, it's not real...
based on their understanding of buoyancy, they should be pressed to the ground...
that dense xDD
@@DeliMeatTree The bible is real, it is the story inside that is not
"In school all I did is getting more crayon, I have studied nothing, I have no clue about anything, I don't understand your science stuff, therefore everything you say is wrong!" - about every flerfer
You were right, Dan: this is the worst yet. I am struck by a few things. First, what colossal losers these people are-some guy in a fishnet shirt in the desert, an Australian crack addict, some dude in a sweatshirt, an insecure cowboy who has to stand next to his cars to make you think that his money validates his idiotic opinions, and then there's whatever DITRH is. Can you imagine someone sharing this "documentary" with someone and presenting these people as experts? How are the people making this and sharing this not embarrassed beyond belief that these are the "authorities" they're appealing to?
Second, I want to see a magnet that can negatively charge a piece of wood and get it to float.
I'm a geophysicist I've spent the last 25 years measuring and imaging variations in magnetism and gravity in order to map geological structures within the earth for mining and oil and gas exploration companies. I gave up long ago trying to explain to flat earthers how we do this, how the instruments work, what the data shows us, how it can't actually be faked etc.
You know nothing wow you are indoctrinated
Anyone call call Earth Flat. THAT REQUIRES 0 INTELLIGENCE!
An INTELLIGENT person would offer ALTERNATE EXPLANATIONS that fit the known physics we currently use and experiment with at our leisure!? And how they work together and independently PERFECTLY?
Thats what I thought.................
ROUND EARTH PROOFS
'Seeing the Curve' at 50,000 ft... with your own eyes...
EARTHS CURVED SHADOW ON THE MOONS SURFACE
ECLIPSES
Ships & Navigation.
Radar
Time Zones
Gravity
Tidal Wave actions
Volcanos
Coriolis effect
Magnetism (compass/gyro) north/south diff
Earthquakes
Aurora Borealis
Atmosphere
Horizons
Planetary movements
Star patterns / trails
Satellites (GPS)
Thousands of PICS / VIDS from NASA/SPACEX/RUSSIA/CHINA
Trees
Moons Tidal Lock
Density
Ground breaking patented technologies traced directly backed to nasa
Cartography (maps)
LAVA
Asteroid impact craters.
Grand Canyon
Marianas Trench
Geothermal pockets
Geysers / pools
Weather
Diamonds
Minerals
COAL
OIL
GOLD
Continental Drift
- Horizontal Sedimentary Rock formations billions of years old
Glacier ice cores millions of years old
5mile long Trains that can show the curve.
Bridges spanning water longer than 4miles
I'm certain they have no idea how the electronics in their devices work, all that pesky physics stuff, yet they have no problem using those devices to look up crap that they think backs up their superior knowledge on how the universe really works and the nature of reality from their equally dim social media posting chums.
Good. Earth is an extremely old star: How Planets are Formed, How Stars Evolve, Planetary Evolution, Stellar Evolution
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I would suggest trying the reverse: mention that you have a device that shows a certain result, and have _them_ explain how you are able to get certain results from it.
Like, when an earthquake happens at point A, earthquake detectors at point B and C (halfway across the surface of the Earth) will also go off, and this happens EVERY time... So if it's not a core that is deflecting P and S-waves of an earthquake, then what else is making those waves appear around the world so predictably? Or if the instruments are fake, why do the produce data that correlates with certain other verifiable results? Basically, don't give them something to deny, give them something they are put on the spot to have to explain.
Now if they say "I don't know", then you can say something like _"so if a student asks us both to explain this phenomenon, how is your 'I don't know' more convincing than my proper explanation of the principles of what is happening?"_ The conversation can keep going but the point is to never let them reach a point where they can just deny something, I always try to get them to explain themselves, and that is something they can never do.
Do flat earthers ever explain why they think all the worlds governments have decided thar the one thing they agree to cooperate on is lying to everyone about the shape of the earth?
The same governments that over many thousands of years have often very violently not gotten on with each other.
They only pretend to not agree on everything else. They get together at the WEF to decide how they will disagree on all other subjects. See that proves how pervasive this conspiracy is!
I guess they need to waste a ton of money on something so, they invented NASA and the entire Space Industry and science... 😀😀😀
All these governments most of the times can't even agree on the most trivial agenda but somehow these governments agree to cooperate lying to everyone on this planet about the shape of the planet. Especially Russian & Peoples' Republic of China are not on good terms with US government they have much more motivation to humiliate US government but they didn't do it. Oh ya not forgetting which government is responsible to guarding the ice wall?
Thats because they think there is only 1 world government ("they") and every other is just a play.
Same with other space agencies, there is only nasa
I guess none of these flerfers would want an ultrasound, CT scan, X-Ray or MRI to diagnose a medical problem. They would insist that a doctor cut into them just diagnose a problem. After all one can't possibly know anything about the interior of something unless one physically goes there.
They are all profoundly ignorant of how much work and incredibly brilliant thought goes into devising ways to scientifically investigate things that beyond our simple senses.
Some of these dullards would assert that a lot of these things don't even qualify as science because they didn't start with the child's version of "the" scientific method - observing something in nature. It's true. We haven't observed Earth's core in the simplest meaning of the word (picture Howard ThreeNames pointing at his eye with his forefinger and drawling "observvvvvved"). We don't need to.All we need to do is say "We'd like to know more about ... How do we set about to learn more?"
I don't know much upsets me more, their utter stupidity or the levels of arrogance needed to try and present it as truth.
They are too thick to let a little thing like intelligence get in their way.
Definitely the arrogance. Stupid people aren't a problem, its when those stupid people think they are smarter than actual smart people that I have an issue with them.
One requires the other and vice versa...
The greatest mystery is how can someone ask a question like "how can they know this" over and over again without ever actually trying to find out how they know the thing, then say that's impossible. Stupidity is so f@#$ing frustrating.
How flatearthers find out about things, is watching another flatearthers video. It's one big circle jerk of ignorance and stupidity.
The greatest mystery is how can someone ask a question like "how can someone ask a question like 'how can they know this' over and over again without ever actually trying to find out how they know the thing" over and over again without ever actually trying to find out why they don't actually trying to find out how they (other they) know the thing. Sorry :D
@@morbuzakh But what you fail to get is the people I'm talking about has already made up their mind on the notion of believing their own senses which is the worse thing you can do. Because of this belief anything that goes against their senses they won't even entertain it much less to try to understand how the conclusion was arrived at. So no I don't understand why they won't try to understand what is right in front of them but that don't make what I said less valid. He said "that's not possible" without knowing why, it's not my job to find out why, all I can do is ask;
No matter how you slice it, saying something that is a known fact is impossible because you are too (insert reason) to research it is stupid.
They must get so excited when they talk to each other. They must think they are geniuses together.
I think this is why this has popped up during the days of the internet. If you were a flat earther in the 80s, you were on your own. Nowadays, you can find others that believe the same exact stuff as you.
"So they way that I see it" 5:07 "What I believe" 6:53
Such a key lines for all flat earthers and conspiracy theorists.
I have this IDEA that I believe is true, with no mathematical proof, no visual proof, no publications, no model. Just a MISTAKEN gut feeling...And they can't even agree with each other
Religion could be grouped in with flat earthers and conspiracy theorists too.
And when they actualy DID some somewhat good experiments for themselves, they accidentaly proved that the Earth is indeed a " rotating ball". 😀
Obviously@@redsfanwakey
Between all the word salad, the "All of science is a lie, except for the parts we like. Evidence, what's that?", "Gravity is just a theory", "Helium ballons shouldn't fly with gravity" and "There's just density and buoyancy" from people that had that explained to them dozens of times this is more a meme collection than a documentary.
Did you expect to learn things from this thing? ;)
@@jerenoize Well no, but it'd be nice if they were able to bring anything new except for "We need to become masters of vibration" to the table.
This helium ballon and density/buoyancy crap is so tired and obviously dumb, they are making themselves look bad still using it, just like Nathan "I have never been on a mountain" Oakley and his beloved "gas pressure in a container equalizes" argument.
@@Elhao I know, I'm tired of this bullshit too. As an amateur astronomer, I am sad to see that people fail to be enchanted by the beauty of the sky and space. Their life is sad, it must really be horrible to see the world the way they see.
@@Elhao They don't care that they look bad to anyone with an average education and an average ability to think critically, just like online scammers don't care that most people know there's no African millionaire looking to transfer funds to their account. They're all just targeting the most gullible and most stupid people on the planet.
@@Elhao I'm sure if CC became a master of vibration, his wife might be a bit more amenable to his beliefs, at least.
"The cabal doesn't want us to know the earth is flat!! But they are leaving breadcrumbs because they want us to know the earth is flat!!!"
The cognitive dissonance is amazing.
If you could harness their stupidity for electricity, all energy problems would be solved
They keep saying all this nonsense and spending a lot of money on these documentaries, but none of them ever consider setting up an expedition to the "edge" of the Earth that they strongly believe in. I would love to see them do it.
Exactly, just rent a ship and live stream the whole thing. But I guess they're terrified of uncovering the biggest secret in human history and confirming the very thing they've devoted their lives to... :/
@@Speednote10 They just claim nobody can do that, and since they didn't try, they couldn't. Claim proven, somehow...
These morons could've already booked a spaceflight for all of them with the money they wasted or got from their equally moronic fanbase. But they won't because they seem to be a) grifters that just talk bullshit for money or b) REALLY believe this crap and have some mental problem that let's them live in an alternative reality.
Some of these people are borderline mentally ill and everytime I see a video from CC for example, I fear that this guy some day will snap and run with a gun into the next walmart.
flat earthers believe there's an ice wall, but never proposed what's beyond the ice wall
My argument AGAINST a flat Earth is that cats have not been able to push ANYTHING over its edge...
David Weiss talking about being "dumbed down" is the finest form of irony
There would be no need to create NASA and spend billions and billions of dollars on CGI, secret film studios and cover-ups to fool that buffoon. A couple of balloons and some idiotic memes would do the trick.
As someone who lives very near FL.. I see the launches from my yard, usually.. and never seen them hit any firmament.
The speed they pivot from "globe earth priests" to "we have to become masters of vibration" gave me metaphysical whiplash
I always laugh when Pratt calls us "Globe Enthusiasts" !!
Sounds like a bad Disney remake of Indiana Jones. Oh, wait.
So they are master vibrators or masterbaters for short
"We can't discover the bottom of the flat earth, unless we all become The Flash!"
I have recently become a huge SciManDan fan and love the channel. Brings a smile to me at every debunking. Well done Dan. I really didn't think there were people out there so stupid.
Every flerfers favorite line "I don't understand it therefore its impossible!" That is my favorite. The truth is that there is not much of anything that any flerfer thinks.
I used to believe that magnetic north was a big pile of "load stone" situated near the north pole. Then I went to school - I was 8 when I learned how magnetic north really works - I was 14 when I learned that it can reverse - this was when the Mid-Oceanic Ridge was being studied and the "magnetic tape" was being discovered. I am glad I grew up and became a geologist - I have loved studying the earth.
Flat Earth muppets believe in the "North Pole" but don't believe in a "South Pole". They have either just discovered the monopole or they're too stupid to realise just how stupid they really are... I'm guessing the latter.
some flat-earthers STILL believe this, they keep saying "a compass at the equator doesn't point down at a 45 degree angle, therefore earth is flat."
Imagine putting in THIS much effort to be ignorant...
This 1000%.
I save my energy to watch TV and play videogames
Did anyone else want bugs bunny to pop up and yell "AHHHHH SHUT UP!!!!!" to all these idiots?
""look! we're running into a solid barrier!" they're hitting the dome"
...how come they keep moving when they are supposedly hitting a solid barrier? last time i checked, cars tend to stop when hitting a wall, not phase right through.
Because first it is solid, but then it's a liquid. See flerfs say one thing and when it doesn't fit the narrative, at that moment, they change the narrative. Only to say the first thing again untill it doesn't fit anymore and so on. That's why I like them so much, an infinite source of idiocracy😂😂😂
@@wilcowiersma9465 ohh, so the firmament is a non-newtonian fluid. Got it. They really just like to make up whatever they want in order to make it fit their narrative, but that only makes it more confusing as each con man says something slightly different and none of it adds up
Not only that, but the rocket is actually increasing speed as these happen.
I liked how flerfs think that usa tried to nuke the dome in the 60s, but rockets still passed through the alleged dome 😂
If you take that silliness seriously, you would have a dome so low that it would be just above your head by the time you got to Antarctica.
Flat earth claims never add up.
Flat earthers claim don't have to "add up," math is propoganda.
Get with it!
@@grahvisThat’s why you are not allowed to go near the ice wall of course! You’d hit your head. The Arctic Treaty is health and safety gone mad.
@@bdgzathat's why penguins are short. Can't have them bumping their heads. 😊
@@tompiper9276 All the Penguins that learned to fly flew up into the firmament and swam away into the water of space. That’s why we’re left with the flightless Penguins on Earth.
04:46 All I can think of watching this _gish gallop_ is *Brandolini's Law,* which states: _“The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude larger than that needed to produce it.”_
_“There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there always has been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.””_ -Dr. Isaac Asimov, *NEWSWEEK* Op-ed, 21 January 1980
Ah yes, a shirtless man in the desert, he definitely knows some truths that the rest of us arent even doing LSD about
Hey, he's wearing a shirt. Well, 30% of one anyway.
@@redsfanwakey It's the wardrobe equivalent of an inverted-mullet: Party up front, business in the back.
EDIT: OH, my bad! I read this before I got to that part. I assumed you were talking about Santos and his one-button button-down shirts! I'll leave the comment because it's true for Santos. I don't know what to call that guy's shirt...
@@robot_spider I think his shirt is called a "shirt of shame"
@@redsfanwakey I think it's called a trawl.
Honestly speaking, I've had better theories about life, reality and existence while being on acid than any of those idiots in this documentary 🤣
These people have absolutely no understanding of what theyre talking about, but see themselves as experts in all of it. Its amazing how strong dunning kruger effect can be with some people. I hineslty think they believe the bs and its not a grift. Im not the sharpest knife in the kitchen but these guys are just a spoon saying its a knife
don't worry, you're still a pretty sharp knife in the kitchen.
sharpest tool in the nerf factory
A rubber spoon at that.
if they make money on lies, then it's a gift. If they fall for it themselves, then thats their own fault.
So if gravity can't be real because it's "impossible" for something to hold down a skyscraper, but fail to hold down a balloon, wouldn't their electromagnetic force also be "impossible" because it also fails to hold down a balloon?
Flat earthers, 2015 just called, they want their arguments back 😅😅😅
yesterday just texted you, it wants that 'joke' back
@@daveselbow9128One hour ago just knocked on your door, it wants its blank wanting its blank back formula back.
(Yes, I stole that. If you know, you know) 😂
@@daveselbow9128this David wiess burner account
1:10 "I'm not sure what they're doing" is the only truthful thing anyone other that Dan says in the whole video.
(small rant) I am not that smart, but I work in civil engineering, so I'm surrounded by smart people. There is so much about the world I don't know, and I am keenly aware of that fact. Every day I try to learn something so I won't make the same mistakes tomorrow as I did today. As I watch these guys, I have to admit, on some level, I wish I was that stupid. The world is so much simpler when you have the outlook of a toddler.
Keep up the great work Dan.
I love it when they site buoyancy as the true alternative to gravity. Look up any formula or model from how buoyancy works and you’ll eventually find a big fat G staring you down that the whole thing collapses without
I *think* the part where he's going on about bouncing off the bottom of the ocean is a reference to a fairly new (at least I've not heard of it until recently) conspiracy theory that the bottom of the ocean isn't actually the bottom.
It basically centres around a documentary maker who, while filming, came across a brine lake at the bottom of the sea where he was filming. He describes attempting to go into the lake with the sub but 'bounces off the surface', and he unfortunately died in an accident very soon after. Which of course led to the conspiracy theory that he was killed for showing something he shouldn't.
And that kind of thing - deep water brine lakes - have been known about for ages.
Or someone watched the Meg or something similar and thought it was real.
oh the brine lake is cool as hell, shame they've stolen it for their stupidity. Also the sub could easily push down into it, but it was shallow off memory.
@@Scampcam They did take samples of the water so how could they do that if it was 'solid?'
I think that was Mike De Gruys (sp?). They often claim the helicopter crash that killed him was "THEM" making sure he didn't tell anyone about the secret. Even though it was in an incredibly popular BBC natural history series, and the helicopter crash was 14 years later.
Obviously, if you want to stop people revealing your conspiracy, you let them make a tv series about it, then wait over a decade before "silencing" them. Makes perfect sense...
Was it not beautiful how they mentioned their usual buoyancy and then immediately switched to electrostatic based gravity... classics.
yeah I was waiting for them to say it's all just density and buoyancy 😂
So if it's all electrostatic then planes don't need engines, wings, propellers, etc. All we would need is a metal enclosure and put a charge on it and away it goes.
@@WitchidWitchid Why planes at all? Rub balloon over your body and off you go with the wind.
@@kamil4151 Yes it's true. The last time someone rubbed my body, I was floating in the skies too 😋🥰
They still use the density and buoyancy but add in the electrostatics so they can answer why down.
What actually bothers me the most is that they don't even present their own (dumb) theories. The majority of the "documentary" is just about to smear accepted facts. Their disposition to go against the established science is bigger than their will to come up with an alternative idea. I know it's dumb whatever they do, but they should think along the lines "here is why the earth is flat" not "here is why all of you are wrong".
Yes this. They think proving the earth is not round means the earth is flat.
They know the earth is a globe, so they can't proof a flat earth. They just disprove a globe so they can feel special. That's why everything they say doesn't work in the real world, there's no flat earth model, no pictures of the icewall because there isn't an icewall. They just make up stuff like armed NASA penguins that protect the icewall, or something like that.
Most of these flerfs know it's a globe, they are just a bunch of scammers and grifters preying on the gullible.
They always run away when you ask them "How did you calculate the downwards acceleration using electrostatics".
Yep, they start running at "calculate"...
@@chrisantoniou4366 Nah, that's reflex delay. What really sets them off is "how."
@@richardhanck972Damn you I was gonna say that haha
@@richardhanck972 😂😂😂👍
electrostatics, as an electronics engineer, i have to make sure that at certain times, everything is grounded, to prevent damage via electrostatic discharge, a wierd thing is that when we ground everything and reduce the charge to as close to 0 as possible nothing starts floating around the room.
We have two 500kV DC Transmission lines, one negative and one positive wrt earth. I have stood under each and did not float up or be pushed down under either. Furthermore I have also stood under serveral 275kV AC transmission lines and I was not vibrated up and down at system frequency.
Imagine the crazy things that should happen around 3 phase power generators and transmission lines.
@@Isolder74 Lol. I imagine people rotating doing cartwheels all over the place.
I got approached from a flat Earther a while ago spewing his shit.
All I could say was, "Are you ignorant or stupid because it's one of the two."
And walked away.
Why not both?
School reports, "He is a pleasant and helpful boy, ok at sports but regularly falls asleep during lessons and has very poor comprehension ability"
My father used to work on seismic analysis. They never needed to drill a single hole to find underground features (yes, back in the old days, they did "shots" but that hasn't been done for a long time). They deployed something called a "shaker truck" which uses hydraulic pads slamming the ground up to 1000Hz to send waves through the ground, reflecting off of underground features and picked up by lines of geophones, to give them a very good idea of what is up to 15,000 feet underground. All without drilling a single hole. All oil exploration depends on the scientific field of seismology.
And we still drill dry holes all the time lol
Ive always hated the whole "gravity doesnt make things fall, its just density/bouyancy!" Argument. Its the same as "there is no electricity powering our tv. Its just wires and cables!"
For several years I was very active as a debunker on various "conspiracy" forums. These days I mostly just support debunker channels on RUclips.
But I was thinking as I watched this video how it's just sad. It's sad how these hysterics constantly lie about the self-evident nature of our physical world. I think some of them might even believe their own hysteria, as if they've gaslighted themselves.
It's weird and it's sad.
Funny you should say that. Some of the fact checkers employed by websites and social media start to believe conspiracies simply by virtue of being constantly barraged with them day in, day out. It's a recognised psychological phenomenon.
They are missing out on the wonderful world of science. So much to see and learn. It's very sad indeed 🧐
this is painful to watch. they owe all their school teachers an apology
You think they went to school? Played hookey instead.
And all the trees that are tirelessly pumping out the oxygen that these clowns are stealing with every breath.
@@clivedavis6859 Or slept through it.
@ about 12:00; if the ground gives the atoms in our bodies (and everything else) equilibrium, then wouldn't all the atoms on earth just lay flat on the ground, in a big puddle?
A submersible wasn't able to penetrate the bottom of the ocean?
The solid rock covered in sand that forms the ocean floor?
I wonder why it couldn't get through 🤡
It's superdense water - like ice because it's cold down there !!
@@hifismiffy but ice is less dense than water, that's why it floats.
I do find it fascinating how they will happily accept one invisible force but not the other. Like how water flowing from a faucet can bend significantly towards a charged balloon and yet water can't be attracted to a giant piece of rock due to an other force.
If we told the flerfs that we agree with electrostatics as the "force" that holds everything down. They will suddenly say, "Nuh uh, it's gravity"
It's because they have proof of that though! There's no proof for gravity...ignore me laying down in my bed, it's ELECTROSTATIC
my favorite part is if you just drop something and demonstrate it exists they cannot fathom that something had to make the object go down and not some other arbitrary direction. best part is if you ask a flat earther to imagine an object floating as no force is acting on it. their brains shatter like spun glass.
I was thinking the same thing. They agree with the science that suggest that these tiny little atomic structures can attract and repel each other with such tremendous force that it governs the behaviour of all matter and yet the idea of a huge clump of matter attracting other clumps of matter is just a government conspiracy to keep you from the truth. It always blows my mind that flat Earthers can believe in (and use) some pretty intense physics principles and yet one of the fundamental forces of the universe is complete nonsense.
@@gryph01 The denial of gravity isn't arbitrary. To have a flat Earth, gravity *_can't_* exist.
If gravity existed, the mass of the Earth wouldn't be able to keep a flat shape. The mass would collapse on itself and form a spherical shape.
If gravity was the "force" that made things "fall down," their flat Earth wouldn't be able to hold anything down.
That's why they are now talking about electrostatics and electromagnetism.
Of course, they are either too stupid to realize, or do realize but are *_lying,_* that their arguments against gravity are even better arguments against electrostatics being the cause.
If electrostatics holds "all the ocean" down, why aren't we stuck to the ground? They even admit that the electromagnetic force is *_STONGER_* than gravity, so it should be *_HARDER_* than gravity to overcome!
I just love people who have so much knowledge even though they have not studied or worked in the field that they so easily criticize.
The Dunning - Kruger effect !!!
Also, the core never stopped, it's still spinning almost at the same rate as the surface. It used to be going a little faster (ie, a point on the surface would rotate slightly slower than the same point below in the core) now, the core is rotating slightly slower. So it stooped- *relative to the earth's surface-* and then slowed further, so that now, *relative to the surface of earth* the core is rotating backwards.
Thanks. So it has also been written in the New York Times Article shown in the video.
Flat earthers: "the rocket bounces off the firmament" *shows footage of the rockets continuing straight on the same trajectory and not at all "bouncing" off*🤦🏽♀️😂
If the rocket hit a wall, you would expect it to... I don't know... explode maybe????
These people are a lost cause.
"It looks kinda weird, and instead of asking why it looks like that I'm going to make stuff up!"
> you'll see the rocket hit the firmament, explode, like watery, and then it will skim along the surface of the firmament
Now I'm interested to know what Santos means when he says "explode" and what a "watery explosion" looks like.
On second thought, I'd prefer not to. 🙈
These flerf morons need their heads bounced off a brick wall, might knock some sense into them
@@simond.455 i'd be more interested to understand how he expects an object to still have ongoing motion *_after_* it explodes... 😵
My immediate question would be, if they are clearly hitting a dome, WHY would they need to "give us bread crumbs"? The whole world would be seeing them hit a dome with waves of water as clear as day if that is the case...WHY then would then need to drip out the truth if we all saw it anyway?
just imagine a rocket hitting a body of water at over 24,000mph, the rocket would more then likely disintegrate on impact, it would vaporize the water surrounding it creating a cavity/plume and cause moderately large waves through the water like a small tsunami and here they are saying it's just skimming along the dome 😆
Yeah, it's like how people say that the illuminati symbols on American currency are "hiding it in plain sight". 😆😆
I just had a thought about the electro static stuff and grounding. What about being underground? A helium balloon in a cave still goes up, surely it should float at the centre equally away from all the surrounding earth if they are right
You know that they will say the balloon isn’t deep enough. Then they will say it happens below a depth of 8 miles. Interestingly the exact depth we can go beyond.
Which then brings up another question, if globe earth scientists can’t see beyond 8 miles depth so therefore are “making shit up” logically the same can be said about Flat Earthers.
Electrostatics do not replace gravity for the simple reason, electrostatics both attract and repel, gravity only attracts.
Aryabhata about 1,500 years ago, hypothesised the Earth had an attractive force which was why objects fell to the ground.
I just looked this guy up. Thank you.
7:00 - I think that product already exists mate: "Master of vibration - satisfaction guaranteed".
😂😂😂🔥🔥💯👌
Where can I find the peer reviewed studies that these scientists have published?
I'm willing to bet you can't.
I think we just watched it.
I actually feel bad for the people, it must be tormenting to think your life is a lie and there’s a giant conspiracy. Not the fact there’s more slaves alive today than ever, this is there focus. I hope they get some peace and find a worthy cause one day.
I saw some flat earther actually say he was listening to a David weiss podcast, imagine wasting hours of your life listening to his drivel, somehow thinking he's profound and "waking you up"...
I've heard some of these guys who are also on the hard core Bible thumping wagon say they actually believe that, slavery was a good thing." One of them even said slavery was "good for Africans because we brought them to this country"... ya... just when you thought you heard the most disgusting words a person could say.... theres a "good Christian" there to bring humanity to a new low.
I think it comes down to opinion, that is, are they totally ignorant of basic human knowledge, are they even close to being as stupid as they sound, or are they just liars?
When they're that dumb, who give a damn?
@@SeanMahoneyfitnessandart And this muslim Daniel says marrying 9-year-olds to 50-year men is OK, is consensual...
Religion can easily be abused to excuse your vanity, your aspiration to superiority.
It CAN be used to give people hope, make them better people, make society better, to regulate society.
I CAN see this potential. Probably many "use" their religions this way. Are halfway tolerant.
But what I miss totally is that these "good" christians would go vehemently against those that abuse THEIR God for enrichment, manipulation etc.
If we eliminated flat earthers IQs, the average IQ would be 20 pts higher
Well... one would need to add theists, linguists, believers in politics, & perpetual-motioners to FEs (meaning anybody who accepts the authority of others rather than the consistent repeatability required by science) to get to that 20-point increase. Which btw would bring the IQ-level in the USA back up to 100! Actually, imho the worst of the lot are the linguistic "authorities" who come up with "explanations" that ought to make even a rabid Flat-Earther think twice. OOPS! I mean '"START to actually THINK".
Actually, many members of ANY group that I listed are actually also members of many of the OTHER listed groups. Probable cause: they had Mrs Grundy type teachers...
@@Scott-i9v2s
> *Linguists are bad*
Bro what do you have against people who learn different languages?
@@StormsandSaugeye Nothing. I am not happy with how we users of language mistreat them & how teachers & other so-called "authorities" perpetuate our stupidities.
As far as I can make out - their only argument exists of "I do not understand and anything anybody else says I do not believe because I do not understand"
What's most disappointing about some of these guys is that their questions are sometimes good questions (ie: How do we know the spinning inside the earth is changing?). That's curiosity. That's the root of science. The problem is that instead of finding out the answer by asking someone who's a specialist in that field, they just shrug it off as "i don't understand it, must be fake".
I appreciate that guy with holes in his shirt talking about how we’re on a “flat plane” with mountains and hills in the background 😂
The thing is, even though you and I might interpret what they are saying as questions, to a flat Earther it's simply a "Gotcha!" - they have absolutely no interest in finding out the why of the question they've asked, only to parrot it ad infinitum like a hex or a charm to ward off the evil "globetards".
@@chrisantoniou4366 Good point
Does anyone else find irony in the fact that one of the dudes is wearing a hoodie that says "10th Planet" on it? 😂
Has any flat earther tried to document how the world government stopped them trying to start a business around these free energy secrets they seem to know about?
I have often pondered why certain nations (eg. Red China, the old USSR) did not use all these alternative energy sources when pioneering remote locations that were off-grid. If developing a mine in Siberia, why not set up a Tesla device to suck energy out of the atmosphere, rather than transport generators, and at the same time show the capitalist world how it could be done. Or maybe it just doesn't work.
Those hovering things don’t even work how they imagine that they do. They can’t even lift much more than their own weight and once above a certain size no longer work. They are nothing more then a fun novelty that scammers have latched onto to fleece people.
And something that expends current and electric wattage is not free energy.
They really should do their own research.
I would LOVE to see a flat earther livestream where they take an anvil and give it negative static electric charge and then expect it to float up into the sky like a baloon as their hypothesis predicts.
This is just my addition to their documentary. If a person is positive thinking, can they fly?
Or a skyscraper, since that was mentioned.
Or move the blocks of stone that formed the Pyramids, using negative forces.
In the high voltage lab at university, we charged our secretary, who had very lon blonde hair, up to a million volts with the van der Graaf generator.. All that floated up was her long blonde hair in a big fan shape as each strand repelled each other. She, however remaind firmly pulled down on the insulator.
@@clivedavis6859 If the earth in its entirety would be negatively charged it would blow it self apart, due to the repelling force between those negative charges. Or imagine digging a hole, the dirt would just fly away.
The reason why gravity works is that it lacks a repelling component (at least for normal matter). So the earth can keep itself together with gravity while also attracting other objects to it.
On top of that if the earth had a negative charge and we had a positive charge... why don't we discharge if we are on the ground?
They will argue that they did do the experiment and point to the very video in the documentary where he charged the balloon.
They know all too well that anything heavier than that would not yield the results they want so they bury the videos of them trying and refuse to livestream themselves trying(insert a BS excuse here)
Remember anything that goes against the narrative must be denied.
Dan I have to thank you for creating a safe space for us to release our frustrations with these idiots. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve written out a full comment completely debunking a flat earther before taking a second to breathe and delete the comment before posting, because it’s completely pointless to argue with them.
Poor guy really thought standing in-front of a GTR would get people to validate his insane delusions. I honestly do not believe these people take themselves seriously. Great video as always, Dan!
Brilliant car though, I’ll give him that lol
Nothing but superficial nonsense, as far as I'm concerned. It certainly doesn't bolster his supposed argument, which boils down to, 'I don't believe it, therefore it's not true.' Which is no argument at all.
Honestly, I did very much so notice the car. No clue what it is, don’t care, but I can tell people probably think it’s expensive or rare or something. But the problem is I laughed at the fact that he decided to talk in front of it. It just makes him look sad. Nothing say “I could never hope to make enough money to own this” like causally and very purposefully putting it in the background. It’s screams “poor because I’m really dumb”.
I feel sorry...for the GTR
Just a weak flex. For no other reason than to show how much stuff hes got.
The unintended "flex" it seems that hes rather insecure because of his multiple attempts at this flex.
"Our brains can't tell the difference between a thought and what is real".
Oh dear. The Flerfs have long had trouble with the "small vs far away" thing from Father Ted, now it looks like they need Dougal's diagram that shows that dreams are inside the head and reality is outside.
SciManDan, I'm going to see a citation to support the statement of yours at 6:01 that the South Atlantic Anomaly is mainly caused by the pressure of the Solar Wind. If that were the case, it would ring the Earth because of Earth's rotation.
I totally believe the dude standing in the desert. Not because he's making any sense, but because he's wearing a sleeveless, mesh hoodie and is well muscled.
FYI Sciman.About four months ago here in Melbourne in the paper's death notices the surname Bonnaci came up.One of his children was a certain Santos...if this was Santos' father then it's sad he died knowing his son was a fool.
It could be. He fled Australia to avoid paying his taxes. He now hangs out in Mexico.
The dude with the fishnet shirt just screams credabillity. what a bunch of clowns. keep up the good work Sciman Dan. Scary what's out there.
Fantastic work Dan. Although I really don't know how you sift through all them videos without cracking up.
Well done mate
If flerfers ever really find out their position in the world they would realize it's in the corner with the dunce hat.
Flat earthers remind me of when me and my mates are stoned as fuck talking about shit we have no idea about 😂
6:35 Another big issue they have is two logical flaws and one misconception.
Having direct evidence is not required to prove something - circumstantial also means works. It is winter at -1 C and there is nothing on the ground but dirt. You wake up 6 hours later and everything is covered with snow and ice. You surmise it snowed. Not that a fleet of Air Force Bombers flew over and dropped a ton of snow on you.
Second flaw, the need to physically see a cause or the effect is non-existent. Let’s be clear, I assume this man has a brain and sunburns just as fast as I would. But I don’t have to cut him open to validate the former or subject him to 7 hours of sunlight to prove the latter. Just seeing evidence is enough. Our both our lives are constantly affected by things we can’t see from the racist thoughts of some persons to radio waves that make our cell phones work.
And as a third issue. He is unfortunately ignorant of his ablism bias. No people that are blind can tell the difference between thoughts, beliefs and reality. While some have issues with circadian rhythms, they know that their dog is a good boy and that the rent is too damn high.
Sad really.
Have you ever seen the air force drop snow? I haven't, that proves that they are hiding it, therefore flat-
Am i doing this right? :d
If you had no knowledge of snow and saw snow for the first time; you could also presume it grew out of the ground. Because we've observed plants grow, we know plants are associated with the ground. And the snow is on the ground.
Easily provable by seeing snow fall from the sky, attempting to recreate snow by growing the same plants as what's in your garden, looking at snow closely to find it's not a living organism, etc.
But they don't want to test ideas with control; they state a thing, then find evidence to support it and hide or disagree with everything that doesn't. It's an attention grab for money.
"Not that a fleet of Air Force Bombers flew over and dropped a ton of snow on you"... Hehe, do you remember when it snowed last winter in Texas and some idiots claimed it was "government snow". Yeah. People ARE actually THAT DUMB.
@@ScampcamIt is true that process they are using is ignore exploration and fact finding and pounce on a belief that they self selected. They may or may not get it because they are bound by things like an anti-Science bias and a feeling that people are lying to them. This can be reinforced by mental/social issues in which the group becomes a support group for the injured and lonely members. They do have to believe in outdated concepts of Science and the Earth is flat and then everything makes sense. How does that work?
The people that have hurt you are a vast conspiracy and they are the reason you don’t understand things in the world. They have made your wife cheat on you because you were too close. He’s they hurt you but the camaraderie of other believers will fill that hole in your life. The friendship of others will help fill the space having no mate has left. Or just a better explanation for you being the failure at math and Science that you were (This last one tracks really well with the lack of funding in minority and traditionally poor white communities there they often get 1/2 to 1/4 the funding of white communities it the reasons are obscured even as the effects are obvious).
Sorry that this is long but I wanted to get this idea across - that they are not stupid or willfully ignorant of the world but in SOME cases they just are proof of our failed societal and educational systems.
The guy who said we have to become masters of vibration…………….he’s been watching too many Flash movies/TV shows and animations believing they’re biographies
He should just grab hold of a live electrical wire. He then can vibrate at 50/60/400 hz, whichever is the supply frequency.
Can’t wait to see you debunk “The Final Level” whenever it comes out
Flafers Be like :
Gravity is just difference in Density
Gravity is just things that are Electro-Statically charged
Gravity is just magic
Gravity is just an Illusions
Gotta lie to flerf.
sometimes wish we could test their hypothesis. of course we'd have them conduct the experiment.. by that i mean dropping them from a high place
Gravity will be their downfall - AARGH !!!
@@eh9618And doofus there, spouting his nonsense from atop a tall building.
He was so close to proving his point.
@@eh9618 I wish we could just airdrop them to the south pole so they can "prove their point". But it is illegal to dispose of garbage in Antarctica 😒
poor old DIRTH !
"why are they hiding Flat Earth?"
it`s really quite simple Dave, there`s nothing to hide. 😄😄😄😄😄
They *ARE* hiding the flat earth...... under a big round pile of dirt.
They indeed hit an impenetrable barrier when digging that 8 mile hole… it’s called lack of money 😅
Witsit loves to spew big words in a string to convince people he knows what he is talking about
He would have made a good used car dealer
@@WitchidWitchid He probably is a used car dealer.
Yep, the master of word salad Gish gallop...
@@chrisantoniou4366 I actually think he isn't a real flat earther. Maybe he was at one point. However he's a snake oil salesman and doesn't want to lose his income or his cult like following.
@@Fairburne69 There's no reason why he can't be both. However, one would think that he could put together a more convincing "argument" than stringing a lot of meaningless pseudo sounding words together. Perhaps his followers lap it up because they don't have to understand it, they only have to believe it, and if you throw enough sciency sounding words together and look like you know what you're talking about, they will attach themselves to it believing they too are real "scientists".
Both leaders and followers of the flat Earth delusion are sad losers.
2:40 And this is why I hate that prople have changed the meaning of "Meme" from "individual modification of information to create something new" to "a captioned image".
That is not a meme, a unique modification of existing information - flat earth is a meme unto itself because it has no definite assertions and continually changes - but the same cross-section image that has been in text books my entire life.
It's their way of dismissing it.
11:29 That isn't how logic works. An example of one object under some effect moving up or down does not imply that all objects that move up or down follow the same principle. An example does not prove a universally quantified ("for all") statement.
Let us just call it what it is, a Derpumentary.
20 years ago, people theorized, performed experiments, and formed conclusions. It was called science.
Now you look at the internet and say NUH-UH.
Witsit likes to claim he's not just tossing word salads but that last part.
"It seems we are prohibited from going too far down because of PRESSURE MEDIATION IN A MAGNETIC FIELD."
Why are they hiding flat earth? To keep us dumbed down. Well summed up Dave, it's an excellent description of the flat earth movement.
I don't really understand how it "keeps us dumbed down" in any way. Let's say that the world is flat after all. What, exactly, does anybody gain from some vast conspiracy that it is a globe? In what way does that make us "dumb"?
On the other hand, learning how to interpret and analyse data, including physical observations, all somehow seem to point to a globe Earth in a heliocentric solar system.
Makes no sense, but then if Dave could make sense he wouldn't be a flerf.
@@simongiles9749 You need to do your research. It's all that really good stuff behind the ice wall that tHeY don't want us to know about.
@@jonathanmormerod Yeah, I love that one as well. Because a) it's not like tHeY don't already have loads of good stuff and b), tHeY wouldn't want a load of paeons to mine/build/maintain all of the good stuff for tHeM.
It's almost like the flerfs don't really understand how humans work, let alone the physical world.
So we get sent to school to learn tons of stuff. The some move on to univeristy to learn more tons of stuff. The into the workspace where we have to use all the tons of stuff we learnt and it works. This all "dumbs us down"?
Theres an ice wall and space water just sat up in the sky but they draw the line at a ball 😂
tbf magic is a lot cooler than reality
😂 bruh they really are that stupid
Gimme a break bravo
How do doctors know what is inside of your body? Do they have to drill holes in your body or into your skull to find out? Or is there some other way to use modern technology to figure these things out? 😳
I was waiting for a third '... and worse' in the intro! 🙂
I always laugh when I hear these referred to as "documentaries" lol 😆
Schlockumentaries
@@JvS1711dickumentaries..lol
Well do very effectively document the stupidity of flerfism.
@doncsicso81 Mocumentaries 🤣
The first one they made was classified by IMDB as "comedy fantasy".
When these guys talk about the motivation for Them to conceal the allegedly flat Earth, I am reminded of a scene in the film _Total Recall" in which a Rekall employee asks Quaid whether it's more likely that he's experiencing the effects of the "secret agent" memory implant he requested, or that he's really a secret agent who's the target of an interplanetary conspiracy to convince him he's a lowly construction worker.
Or the episode of _Buffy_ in which she finds she's been committed to a psychiatric ward due to her persistent psychotic delusion that she's a superhero who fights vampires, demons, and the forces of evil.
Naive as I am I still hope sensible people that are not stupid are the majority. Otherwise we would be heading straight towards idiocracy.
Of course.
Empty cans rattle the loudest.
Idiocracy isn't coming true in so much as it's not actual stupidity increasing in the world as much as Psuedo-intellectualism
@@Pow3llMorgannice comment. I really like that. So true.
Too late. Biden said in a leaked Zoom call that the US is doomed unless African Americans and Hispanics can work together since whites will become another minority in the US in 2045.
Who says we aren't 🤣🤣🤣