The Scorsese film is about to be released, and I am soooooo excited about it as it looks superb. Thank you for a great presentation and an excellent book!!
Truly interesting and more than a little depressing to realize how little things have changed. Our species has not grown very much have they? The wealthy and the powerful with their Machiavellian ethos, will always subjugate the poor. Well done presentation Sir, I really enjoyed it.
It's so sad the Osage people were exploited and murdered for their land and resources.Europeans have caused so much suffering around the world with their plundering and massage of people with colonisation.I wish the Osage people peace and I hope the receive what was stolen from them.
I have lived in Tulsa since 1995. I have known a few lifelong locals that were born during the Depression, a decade after the murders, and 20-25yrs after the Osage oil boom. They still indulged in stereotypes of the Osage as rich, entitled. It's crazy. An interesting reference is the movie "Tulsa" (1949) that purports to depict the the oil boom in the early 20th century. It can be found on RUclips.
Have just started reading Killers of the Flower Moon and am unable to put it down. Just came across yt video of Grann and find it very interesting. I agree with the previous posters, including Carrie Mitch and especially Oklahoma Norm. I too am Caucasian ( hate to use the word white when describing myself ) and am ashamed by the fact that my race could commit such atrocities in the name of greed.
Seems kind of ironic but David looks similar to William Hale. Having said that I'll bet William Hale would hate the fact that the man who exposed his treachery to the world looks just him ...
Martin Scorsese is directing the film adaptation of this book with Leonardo DiCaprio and it is possible that Robert De Niro will be in the film as well.
Saw the movie and liked it, my only concern was that it cost $200 million to make. Unreal, $200 million, there were no large production scenes, it was filmed within a one mile radius and most the movie was dialogue, I would have to question the $200 million ?
Me Grann needs to get himself some sort of remote control for his projector. His voice dropping out every two three minutes when he bends over to change the image is hugely irritating. Otherwise, he's written a terrific book.
Just finished reading his book. Very good. I grew up in Hominy OK which is part of Osage County. My grandparents property was separated by a ditch from the Indian Village. The Osage held dances during the summer which included tents for smoking meat, which always smelled so good. I spent many summer nights with my grandmother in her "summer house" where I went to sleep listening to the drums. My 1st crush at 6 was an Osage boy. He used to ride his new bike to my grandparent's house & then let me ride it. My best friends were Osage, & I don't remember ever hearing any negative comments about Indians. Then at 13 or14 we moved away & that's when I began to hear the racist comments & couldn't believe it! I never understood why. Till I grew up anyway. We had kept a little Indian boy for quite a while & I looked at him as a little brother. Yes, I am old! Haha.
I have thought about my comment regarding the youth in the audience and I have since thought because the bitterness was so great, many of the young people are not told about the Indians and those that have come upon it, came upon this knowledge by accident. I saw a similar report on CBS Morning show not long ago. I do not remember hearing anything about this before.
It’s a great book and story but please ask your writers/speakers to mind the mic. It’s annoying when his voice drifts off bc he’s fumbling with media away from the mic. JEEZE.
so good.... so good. crazy the dumb videos out there that have millions of views and this one 30,000 :( ... but if it wasn't for Mr. Grann we wouldn't know anything so glass half full
I shall give a public presentation with 400 pages of notes, each with six words printed on it. After finishing every second page, I shall bend at the waist and speak into my shoe.
The Scorsese film is about to be released, and I am soooooo excited about it as it looks superb. Thank you for a great presentation and an excellent book!!
Truly interesting and more than a little depressing to realize how little things have changed. Our species has not grown very much have they? The wealthy and the powerful with their Machiavellian ethos, will always subjugate the poor. Well done presentation Sir, I really enjoyed it.
And will always subjugate a non white race
Truly sad!
The Osage we're not poor. They were in fact wealthier than those who persecuted and murdered them.
It is one of the best books I've ever read. Must read.
In the middle of your book, David. One of the best !!!! I can't put it down. I keep thinking of the Osage and ranger White throughout the day !!!!
It's so sad the Osage people were exploited and murdered for their land and resources.Europeans have caused so much suffering around the world with their plundering and massage of people with colonisation.I wish the Osage people peace and I hope the receive what was stolen from them.
I have lived in Tulsa since 1995. I have known a few lifelong locals that were born during the Depression, a decade after the murders, and 20-25yrs after the Osage oil boom. They still indulged in stereotypes of the Osage as rich, entitled. It's crazy.
An interesting reference is the movie "Tulsa" (1949) that purports to depict the the oil boom in the early 20th century. It can be found on RUclips.
I really enjoy this book. My husband grew up in this area.
i just got the book today and im excited ! for the martin scorcesse film also
Oh how Beautiful the world would of been, without the Original Foreigners had never came to America.
Make America Great again ?? Annihilate the lives of many more - who do not
resemble our physiognomy !!
I do remember there was a small portion of this case that was in the movie about the FBI. I think Jimmy Stewart was in the movie.
Came here after news about movie adaption with Leo Dicaprio & Robert De Niro directed by Martin Scorsese. Reports suggesting Leo will play Ernest
I believe they are about to wrap up filming in Pawhuska, OK. I live in Tulsa now but grew up in Osage county.
Have just started reading Killers of the Flower Moon and am unable to put it down. Just came across yt video of Grann and find it very interesting. I agree with the previous posters, including Carrie Mitch and especially Oklahoma Norm. I too am Caucasian ( hate to use the word white when describing myself ) and am ashamed by the fact that my race could commit such atrocities in the name of greed.
Dennis Higgins Think *species
I am also ashamed at the inhuman behavior of fellow greedy caucasians
Seems kind of ironic but David looks similar to William Hale. Having said that I'll bet William Hale would hate the fact that the man who exposed his treachery to the world looks just him ...
Martin Scorsese is directing the film adaptation of this book with Leonardo DiCaprio and it is possible that Robert De Niro will be in the film as well.
Paul Paddie I Can't wait to watch the movie I just got the book today.
is this true? any new updates?
The filming of the movie is supposed to begin in the summer of 2019.
Paul Paddie I'm sure there will be plenty of white heroes in the film.
Can't watch De Niro unfortunately!
Someone should have handled the slides for him or given him a collar mic. The sound quality of this video is horrible
Saw the movie and liked it, my only concern was that it cost $200 million to make. Unreal, $200 million, there were no large production scenes, it was filmed within a one mile radius and most the movie was dialogue, I would have to question the $200 million ?
amazing stories, so much research
Grann doesn't even mention Hale or Burlhardt, -the two major orchestrators and perpetrators of the murders. Odd.
Oops. David Grann. Auto correct not good. Anyways, am excited it is being made into a movie.
I think they now own 1/2 of Oklahoma by court order over treaty rights.
Me Grann needs to get himself some sort of remote control for his projector. His voice dropping out every two three minutes when he bends over to change the image is hugely irritating. Otherwise, he's written a terrific book.
The boundary between a good man and a bad man was extremely porous.
I watched this video out of interest of the subject. I was surprised that I did not see any young people in the audience.
Just finished reading his book. Very good. I grew up in Hominy OK which is part of Osage County. My grandparents property was separated by a ditch from the Indian Village. The Osage held dances during the summer which included tents for smoking meat, which always smelled so good. I spent many summer nights with my grandmother in her "summer house" where I went to sleep listening to the drums. My 1st crush at 6 was an Osage boy. He used to ride his new bike to my grandparent's house & then let me ride it. My best friends were Osage, & I don't remember ever hearing any negative comments about Indians. Then at 13 or14 we moved away & that's when I began to hear the racist comments & couldn't believe it! I never understood why. Till I grew up anyway. We had kept a little Indian boy for quite a while & I looked at him as a little brother. Yes, I am old! Haha.
I have thought about my comment regarding the youth in the audience and I have since thought because the bitterness was so great, many of the young people are not told about the Indians and those that have come upon it, came upon this knowledge by accident. I saw a similar report on CBS Morning show not long ago. I do not remember hearing anything about this before.
it does get explored in the 1950s film "The FBI Story" with James Stewart.
It’s a great book and story but please ask your writers/speakers to mind the mic. It’s annoying when his voice drifts off bc he’s fumbling with media away from the mic. JEEZE.
so good.... so good. crazy the dumb videos out there that have millions of views and this one 30,000 :( ... but if it wasn't for Mr. Grann we wouldn't know anything so glass half full
Read the Book.. Library..
Film November 2022.
awesome!
The system of white guardians reminds me of the joke question, “How do you say ‘noblesse oblige’ in French?”
Sounds interesting .
Saying that the entire town is responsible is a little much. Is there proof of that?
Hey Sam this is Daniel Tignor. Stephen's little brother. Y'all hold it down in Fairfax America man! Miss you guys
What does he say at
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"... until of course ????? and things like that."
Quarterly checks come every three months.
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I shall give a public presentation with 400 pages of notes, each with six words printed on it. After finishing every second page, I shall bend at the waist and speak into my shoe.
Hire a projectionist. FFS. 😑
It was the zodiac killer
No your fore fathers!
Read The Bhagavad-Gītā As It Is, only with KRSNA can we have eternal life, Hare KRSNA.
This is one of the worst presentation.
Truth, lies and history.