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This woman knows what she's talking about~~I've always said that Amber has mental issues and they will come out in time~~I'm not just saying this because I love and adore Johnny, but I'm in the mental health field and have been for about 40 years now and I've heard and seen it all~~Amber needs mental help NOW before something really bad happens and it will~~She can be sweetie as well as she can be evil~~Mental health professionals know what I'm saying~~I just hope she gets help soon before it's to late~~Deep down she's probably a nice person~~But something happened to this woman for her to turn out like she has~~Her actions will not go away overnight~~Fact~~
Exactly. If Curry had testified *after* Heard it would have been highly suspicious, Curry MUST surely have tailored her testimony to reflect Heard's. Nobody could be that accurate, could they? But the fact Curry went first proved devastating to Team Heard's case.
Notice how dr curry used “them” to describe the person who’s suffering for borderline personality disorder even though it mostly affects women; compared to dr hughes who constantly used male pronouns when talking about abusers. Dr curry comes off as professional and without a narrative to push
@Wynn Wynn I mean, she was tested extensively by people who are not armchair psychologists, and diagnosed with two personality disorders, neither or which was narcissistic personality disorder. Additionally, the diagnoses were then broken down and explained by the diagnosing psychiatrist. She testified for a few hours, you are able to review exactly how she arrived at the dual diagnosis. AH maybe a selfish twat, but she is not a clinical narcissist, according to actual professionals with expert level knowledge, education, certifications, and experience. And muffins, ELAINE.
I was married to a woman with BPD, and I can totally relate to Johnny's situation. The "love bombing" phase of the relationship makes you feel like this person is too good to be true, and in fact they are. They pretend to have all the same interests and beliefs that you do, but in the devaluation phase you find out that isn't true. They may not have any true beliefs of their own, so they simply adopt the beliefs of the person they are with for a time. Then they switch when it is time for the devaluation phase of the relationship. Then they engage in verbal and emotional abuse. In my case my ex would resort to threats of suicide and self harm. She literally beat her head against the wall. When I put my hands around her head, so she couldn't hurt herself, she grabbed a dollar store steak knife and attempted to stab herself. I laid on the floor of the kitchen with the knife blade in my hand, restraining her from stabbing herself, for several hours until she finally gave up and went to bed. That was just one borderline fit. Others included yelling, screaming, insults, extreme intoxication, suicide and possible murder/suicide attempts. Meanwhile she bankrupted us with her crazy spending. The relationship finally ended when she found a new victim, called the police, accused me of abuse, and filed a TPO. We ended up with a Stipulated Non-contact Order, thank God. I can relate to the wanting to numb yourself with alcohol. I didn't want to be in the same room with her without a good beer buzz going on, because it would keep me from being hypervigilant and responding to the attacks. I feared going home, but I feared not going home more, because I knew that nights attack would be worse if I wasn't home on time. Being in one of those relationships is hell, especially if you don't see a way out. In retrospect, I should have left and filed for divorce within months of getting married. I didn't know what BPD was until after the relationship ended.
I'm crying 😭 are you okay? I mean I know that seems like probably ridiculous and superficial question but I mean it. Reading all that was like reading a real life nightmare. I'm so sorry you went through that and I empathize. The suicide threats might be some of the worst because inevitably a decent and empathetic person would blame themselves for a while if not forever...and it's awful. But then I quickly learned he was way too selfish and self centered to actually harm himself...that it was just me he was trying to hurt. Its just awful. All of it. Stories like these hurt me on a different level and i...I just truly hope you're okay and found happiness ❤
@@laur131306 Thank you. The relationship ended 13 years ago. Recovery has been slow and difficult, but I'm in a much better place now. Remarried to a woman who actually loves me. Things are good!
She was there hearing all the descriptions of the 2 personality disorders and then went and showed it on the stand. She lost this case the second she took the stand and the jury already had a summary of her personality disorders beforehand and she she did everything Dr Curry described when on the stand.
@@Xornal1 exactly, if she were a better actress and hadn’t made up the sexual violence allegation (with no evidence) Johnny wouldn’t have had a chance.
No matter how good an actor or actress a person is, crazy people don't know that they're crazy... she had no reason to hide her crazy because she doesn't realize that she's crazy.
Dr curry's analysis and testimony of amber was so spot on it's insane. Watching dr curry describe how flowery ppl like amber with histronic/borderline will talk, how when they try to cry it will feel very shallow to people hearing it, externalization of blame, tendency to be self righteous and deny being it, and then judge other people heavily, and so much more. Watching dr curry testify how amber does this and tried to fake ptsd, and then watching amber testify EXACTLY like dr curry described her, was too on point it was almost unbelievable how much dr curry apparently got it right.
At first when I heard her describe amber I thought she was a bought and paid for hack.... Then amber testified.... and I watched some of her UK deposition, and holy fking sht, Dr. Curry was terrifyingly accurate.
Dr Curry was a real gem in the trial. Thank goodness the jury were paying attention to her information. The Dr Dawn Hughs expert witness in comparison was so difficult to listen to, I don't know why. She just seemed to drone on and on, it felt neverending and it came off as skewed. Always He's the aggressor and She's always the victim where as Dr Curry didn't apply a hard and fast rule like that. Dr Hughs needs to stop the style of her expert court attendances sounding like she is chewing through the trunk of a huge tree trunk with her own teeth while she presents her diagnostic evidence to the court, and she's not going to stop the mouth action until she's chomped her whole way through the damn trunk. Sorry Dr Hughs but this was how you sounded and how hard it was to listen.
AH was unable to prevent herself from behaving exactly as Dr Curry described, even in front of the jury who had to judge her credibility. She is still trying to grab attention with that unfortunate interview. Note it was TMZ who got the TJMaxx shopping photos, do they hang out in shopping malls now? Note also that AH looks directly into the camera, to make sure she is recognized
Dr Hughes should hang her head in shame for saying what she was required to, instead of a proper diagnosis, she must have been embarrassed watching AH behaving exactly how Dr Curry said she would, another joke of a woman giving us all a bad rap
Poor Johnny. Compare him on the stand to Amber- Johnny is constantly fiddling, looking away, giving a wry smile as he recounts horrifying things.. he is nervous, it is causing him discomfort and shame and pain and confusion. He is genuine and clearly deeply hurt. Whereas Amber... It's so fake it's unreal. Her behaviour is just play acting, her emotions don't reflect properly .. just as Doctor Currie says. What an unhealthy, sick, abusive woman Amber is.
exactly. she was so obviously fake. all that crying and not a single tear!! she overselled by 1000% should've kept it at 10% and she may have had a chance.
Actually, I saw the opposite with Johnny. He appeared to be very calm and posed while on the stand, and gave thought to each question before answering. I did not see him get ruffled at any time. He even managed to throw in some subtle humorous remarks when answering some questions. But you are spot-on about Amber.
@@Ski3953 I can see how you would see that also. I think it's less calm and more trauma response, you know? Like when shellshock sets in. He's overall so genuine and you can tell he is speaking the truth
@@katthunter6561 He was coached, and has been coached throughout his career, to remain calm for interviews. He was alerted to the questions that would be asked, and practiced his answers with his legal team in advance. This is what good lawyers help clients with.
I have noticed that to and in a way I don’t blame him. The coaching that he had will honestly do him a lot of good. It’s good for him having coaching in order to prepare for trial; but it might even help him a fair amount at coping with anxiety that he may have which apparently is harder to overcome. I can highly guarantee that there’s a reason of why he had to stay calm mentally and emotionally.
When you're dealing with a narcissist, even their terrible behaviour is presented as your fault: "look what you made me do", "you do this to me, you make me angry", "if you would just do what I said, I wouldn't have hit you". It took me so many years to understand it wasn't actually my fault. Narcissists drain your energy.
Yes! Someone I worked with had a newspaper opinion piece entitled "You make you mad" on his desk as a reminder to not let himself be affected by others' negative words or emotions.
It's just awful hearing all the trauma Johnny Depp went through at the hands of this monster..I hope he recovers and gets on with his life without having to carry this emotion, psychological and Spiritual pain..❤️
I like to think that good professionals like Dr. Curry have referred him to people who are able to understand what happened and to help him heal. #peaceforjohnny.
As I understood the testimony, JD had sent awful texts about A-Teard to his friends - *BEFORE* he even married her, so a bit of this is on *him* smh. Hmmm, editing to say my comment smacks of victim-shaming but what I mean to say is listen to your gut; read the writing on the wall [no pun intended;] run it by friends, etc., and if things have soured before you hit the altar, don't do it!!
I read somewhere that Amber's father was extremely brutal to his wife, and his daughters. Both daughters were psychologically and mentally damaged all their lives 💔 He raised and fought dog fighting which is so brutal but most Texans are horrible to their animals. AH Supressed her innermost mentality and presented herself as a very caring and loving personality to SEDUCE JOHNNY.... He even said that the movie where they kissed in the movie THE RUM DIARY he was smitten. Obviously once they were married the DEVIL manifested herself. Why did he pay for her court costs.....he even when she was horribly mean and vicious to him he still helped her. Thank God he divorced the witch. .
I think in that recording where she says that him wanting space is "running away from the solution" says so much about her. That says to me that her definition of a "solution" is you stay and let me abuse you without leaving and then agree with me and back down. Sick. Shes truly demented.
My heart breaks for Jonny Depp. I know he's not perfect, and made mistakes as well, but none of us are perfect, and it's a far cry from how he treated Amber, in comparison as to how Amber treated him!
It took me over 7 years to leave my abusive narcissistic husband... don't let anyone tell you that just because the relationship is awful that it's easy to leave, especially when you have children together.
I think when Johnny's mother died he'd been bracing himself for it and probably thought that once she was gone he'd be free from his past torments. But then he realized he hadn't escaped his mother, he'd married her. He wasn't free and never would be unless he let Amber go. I think once he realized Amber was just like his mother he wanted to help heal his mother through Amber. In a way after all the abuse his mother put him through her death was the key to him freeing himself from Amber clutches.
careful with such stamps and opinions. you are not even close to him. you don't know anything of his late relationship to his mother. plus he took care of here in her last years. together with his sister.
@@MirandaSinistra Wow…. Sometimes, I think I’ve had BPD behaviors. Not ….Well. Pretty terrible at the time… I appreciate you sharing that… Becoming more aware of other’s relationships and different situations, good and bad, has helped me step back and triple think before I do or say something that isn’t pleasant. At the same time, it sucks because I miss being as social-able as I once was. I’m 43. I have been as single as one could be for 2 years and I feel better but have less contact with family, friends and people in general…. Idk why I’m sharing this…. I need a therapist. Lol. I guess I’m at an unknown crossroads that isn’t familiar to any of my emotions..or senses …. Or I smoked too much earlier… Either way, I feel better. Thanks. Your check is in the mail… I sound old.. postage…. Hit send now….
What really amazes me Is that dr. Curry described in advance the histrionic behavior Amber would show days later during her deposition. I'm sure the jury could see that clearly and that was a key to the verdict. Great analysis as always!
As someone who just divorced an abusive husband, I can attest it was so hard to walk away. We didn’t have children, I wasn’t financially dependent on him, and hell, he even lived in a different state and it was hard. I absolutely feel for spouses/partners who bound by kids/money/circumstances to abusive partners because it will never get better.
It’s the emotional abuse that makes a person vulnerable. Physically leaving is possible, but narcissists are going to do everything to haunt you and chase you. Some go to dangerous levels to abuse a person, like stalking snd even killing. Distance means nothing to them.
@@paulmark992 Neither does time Paul. Was stalked at my home every summer for 10 years by an ex. What finally stopped him was his fear of being filmed.
I know exactly what that feels like. I had a toxic ex-GF who used all my emotional weakness and insecurities against me. I tried to leave several times but could not get myself to because of the emotional blackmail. The mental stress becomes too much you'd relent just to stop the torture. But everytime I did, I really loathed myself. It got to a point when I was literally physically harming myself for not being able to walk away. Its never easy to escape a prison that is inside your head
and when you listen to her testimony again, you realize that she saw exactly the same behaviour that we all saw e.g. rapidly switching emotions, not actually answering questions.
She was the most important witness for Johnny, in my opinion… her testimony helped explain why heard would act the way she did and her motivation behind her actions, which from a normal persons perspective seems illogical and crazy
Dr Curry did an excellent job of neutralising Amber’s testimony by describing what you are going to hear from her and why. It was so accurate that none of her histrionics had any effect
If we were discussing Jenny Depp and Andre Heard, we would not say it was mutually abusive. There is a victim and an abuser. The victim’s actions are reactionary. In Johnny did his level best to disengage from the violence including running from the room, zoning out using alcohol and drugs. Amber is the abuser, treater as you would any other abuser.
@@flowerjpotter1629 she threw a vodka bottle at him severing his finger then claimed that he raped her with the vodka bottle instead.... she doesn't have an ounce of CONSCIENCE!! Her preposterous lies to finally totally and utterly destroy his life is what is perhaps the most heinous!
Wow thank you. I’ve been leaving comments like this in many videos but you are the first person I saw who has voiced this opinion that I do strongly agree with. Was Depp perfect? No of course not. But Heard herself said in the interview she shouldn’t have to be a perfect victim to be a victim. Responding to abuse with anger and harsh words does not make it mutual abuse. It is defending yourself as best you can and being human. I firmly agree with you
Dr. Curry was so spot on. The brilliance of watching her talk about AH's diagnosis - in such detail prior to Amber taking the stand , then literally Amber acting EXACTLY like Curry's description that to the Jury, almost gave me the chills. I always wondered what was Amber feverishly writing in that notebook, while Curry was talking about her - it had to have been nonsense words, or scribbles.
She not only was just writing whatever nonsense she was writing, several videos came out where it appears AH's is actually not touching the pad...that was bizarre for me
She was toxic. Depp was passive until he reached the point of no return realising that it was all a charade and he was being used by her and her friends and yet they were trying to twist that knife further with no remorse. He ignored his friends and his kids who knew from get go not to marry her
@@kaysha He's a hero to me too, that's why I defend him. I agree with you he does deserve to be awarded more than he was. That's why I commented what I did in defence of Johnny.
I just feel really bad for Johnny. At that age in your life you just want to be content and comfortable with someone. Home should be a haven, not somewhere you are afraid to go back to.
Let's stop this charade that AH felt threatened/abandoned by JD walking away from her abuse (not "a fight" but her attacking him). She was angry and got angrier because she was losing control over her target when he hid for his own safety. And she was especially angry that he didn't respond with violence, since that was her plan all along: "He hit me. Look! Look world! I'm hit! I'm down! OWWWWW! Ouch! It hurts me! I'M the victim. I'M the poor little thing can you believe this happened to ME? Pretty f*ckable ME?" "Now give me a cookie. $10 million cookies." Amber Heard is a disgusting, violent, conman. Put it in prison with the others. That's much nicer than what they would do to her in another time and place. Enough of this "she's incapable." No. She's unwilling.
This was an extremely good compilation of videos. It must have taken a lot of work to go through all of them to find just the ones needed to show what finally triggered Johnny's decision to leave. As many of the videos as I've watched, I don't think I ever really understood why he stayed in the relationship so long. Good job!
Another reason why someone might stay is if they came from a family of divorced parents. They stay in a bad marriage trying to convince themselves divorce is not the answer. Especially kind-hearted people, they think they can get along with anyone. So sad.
When you listen to Johnny, you hear such a hurt but gentle man. After all he's endured he's still come out genuine and a good person which I find admirable.
This is triggering. 😢💔 At this stage in my life, given 2 emotionally abusive relationships and a parental abusive relationship I simply don’t have anymore empathy for disordered individuals. They cause too much damage to others. It’s sickening. This should be criminal.
Im in a similar boat as you. Been in abusive relationships, struggled in my childhood. Hardest parts are ending the cycle, and recognizing where I have to unlearn toxic behavior myself since it can get sneakily engrained.
I predict "Mommie Dearest" vibes. If she could make herself Johnny's primary caregiver as he was coming off the drugs (she must have enjoyed holding the reins on that situation), I wonder how she is with that child.
This was the best summing up of the entire relationship I've heard. A simple explanation of all the trauma Johnny was put through. It was heartbreaking for him, I'm glad he managed to escape the and hope he finds peace and happiness in his life.
She was scribbling away while Dr Curry described her to a tee. Who knows if they were real or pretend, it must have taken a huge effort not to respond to the Dr's words with killer dirty looks from Amber.
I’m so sad anyone has to live thru this but Kodos to JD for exposing this. It can help a lot of ppl understand their situation! Perhaps he can free even one 💔
Spot on. Doctor Curry nailed it and you analyzed her behavior perfectly. I don't think she'll ever see it and from what's happening to the truth tellers on YT ... the attacks, doxxing and cancelling by her minions, I hope you don't now have a target on your back. She goes after everyone that don't agree with her. I'm hoping truth wins out and everyone will unite to put a stop to her behavior. We can't depend on MSM to tell us the truth so people who want the real story depend on many trusted you tubers research and are told to do our own research. That's a sign of a good journalist, etc. Thank you. Follow TUG for the really deep dives into AH. Things are about to get wild. "United we stand, divided we fall" has a whole new meaning when it comes to battling this Aggressive Narcissist.
"Truth Tellers" I won't disparage TUG specifically, I like him well enough, but just because some of these internet parasites latch onto a true story for clicks doesn't make them a "truth teller". Nick Rekieta once went after other youtubers just for taking fan donations because that was just a thing that was popular with his clique at the time, now it's a bad thing just because he is now the target of the exact narrative. People will sorely regret the popularity these narcissists gained from milking Depp's and Heard's misery.
One of the few content creators who I will sit RIGHT through the ad and listen to the whole thing, because what you put out is so worth it. Great analysis ever time, sincere, reasonable and based. Seems like a lot of truth is getting dropped on the topic of abusive women and "toxic" femininity - but it's high time we as a society started seeing women as the complex human beings they are. True equality demands that - NOT pretending women are somehow magically equal but also BETTER.
Not "toxic" femininity. Not in quotes. It's time we said it out loud and unapologetically: TOXIC FEMININITY. It's time we stopped ignoring it, excusing it or celebrating and rewarding it. Toxic femininity kills. It's time to confront and dismantle our gynocentric prejudices. It's time to stop blaming and mocking the male victims (and dismissing the child victims as well).
@@etsequentia6765 Wikipedia: “The concept of toxic masculinity is used… to refer to certain cultural norms that are associated with harm to society and men themselves.” Eg. normalization of violence and sexual aggression (boys will be boys) as well as repression of emotion (real men don’t cry, depression is for wimps etc).”
I was married to someone like Amber Heard. It was horrible and painful. I stayed for so much longer than I should have. It's been 12 years since I got away, but I am still reeling from the damage.
Takes a very long time to get over depending on what they did and your own personality. Took me a good 15 years to get over a covert narcissus (18 year marriage), but even now 20 years on he's there in dreams so there's still stuff I need to get to the bottom of. Once you work out the different aspects they seem to go away so you just have to go through whatever your subconscious is throwing up until that bit is done. I call it naming the demons.
The borderline will not relinquish their ‘victim’ identity. Acknowledging wrong doing gives power to the other person and this is why the borderline will never admit they’re wrong. They double down. They are skilled at blame-shifting and transfer their toxic shame onto their chosen target. The reason Amber was unwilling to let Johnny go was because he was such a rich source of narcissistic supply. The burden of her toxic shame overwhelmed her, this is why she wouldn’t let Johnny leave. She could only get her ‘release’ once Johnny took on her burden. She wouldn’t let him leave because she needed her fix in the form of narcissistic supply, nothing to do with abandonment. It’s cruel and selfish but the borderline is unbothered with the devastation they cause as long as it means they get their fix.
I have BPD and trust me, I am blaming only myself(when I learned that I had it, around the time I was 19 I read a lot and tried to find why do I have BPD, because my childhood was amazing-I asked my parents so many times if anything bad actually happened…). I hate myself(inside&out) and I blame myseld for things that aren’t sometimes even my fault. Each time I have an “episode” and overreact, I realize what the f… I’ve done and go and apologize. Obviously saying sorry isn’t enough, I have a therapist. Many times I went through CBT(DBT is kinda non existing in where I live) and it helped me so much. I am trying to be a better person, because I don’t want to be mean to people around me. I am trying to tell everyone that they should look for a better person, that I am complicated and don’t want to ruin anyone’s life. There’s been a huge progress, yet I am still not even close to be “normal”. I have GAD&ED(and had more problems during my life, they aren’t really helping me with getting better(plus my dad died in 2020, so I felt like everything I’ve done -to be a better person- is gone). Self harming is sometimes still a problem. And yes, like 10 years ago I was a total brat. But I (thank God) had a great support system. I was not the best girlfriend. But I was not verbally&physically abusive. Don’t get me wrong, I was super jealous and blamed my partners, had many arguments(most of them were because of me). But I know many people with BPD and all of them are abusive to themselves, not their parter/family/friends. Are there violent people with BPD.? For sure. But it’s not because they have BPD but because BPD almost always co-occurs with another mental illness/disorder.
@@MSeliskaZ Well Amber was alsoo diagnosed with HPD, But a person can just be evil outide all those diagnosis I think. I am diagnosed with Aspergers and ADHD myself.
I think a lot of your points were correct but I completely disagree that abandonment wasn’t a huge huge trigger for her. You don’t “leave” a narcissist they leave you. She shows behavior of all three BPD narc and histrionic.
Those who never experienced what it is like being trapped in an abusive relationship will never understand. Simplistic people will always go "Oh why did you not just get up and leave then". It is not that simple. You can not easily escape when the actual prison is inside your head. I once had a toxic ex-GF who was emotionally and psychologically abusive. She played my anxiety and other weaknesses like a harp. See the thing about abusers is that they never really start out to be the monsters that you will see them transform into. They will initially appear to be the sweetest human beings who will comfort you. And then when you trust them with all your fears and insecurity that is when they start using that against you. That is what Johnny went through. I know because I went through the same thing. I got emotionally blackmailed all the time, gaslighted, and she would threaten me of self-harm and other shit. Something like this causes so much stress in your brain you would really relent just to end the torture. In effect I started self-loathing. I hated myself for not being able to walk away and always folding to her. I even ruined relationships in my family that I am still trying to fix. My biggest mistake was not being able to talk about it because people tend to dismiss abuse stories when it is a man at the receiving end.
Iron heart, it sounds like you have been through such a lot of hurt and pain, I am so sorry this happened. If you haven't tried seeing a therapist that could help you, it could also help with mending those fences with others if the therapist is open to allowing important individuals to attend a session with you to help them grasp the terrible ordeal you were suffering and how that impacted upon them. Good luck, you're a brave soul with a Kind Heart ☘️
I’m not sure if enjoyed was the right word, because it made me incredibly sad. Having been through the letting go of a loved one because of their behaviour made this too real for me. I get how hard it was for Johnny to walk away, the feeling that you have failed someone, not really understanding at the time, that really they failed you. 😔
The more I see and hear from AH, by rewatching trial clips, interviews, PSA's and every other thing she has done, the more I can clearly see the monster that lies below the surface. I certainly hope that Johnny can heal from this and get back to who he was before he met her. From living with an abusive mother, being abandoned by his father, to being married to AH, I think he has been through enough. Thank you Johnny for being willing to put your life on display, warts and all, so that people can be educated to this hidden and under reported issue. Thank you also, Baggage Claim for an excellent, factual, well thought out expose. Keep up the excellent work!
You have such a great gift for processing large amounts of information and condensing it into key points and moving? explanations. It's wonderful. Thank you.❤️
She literally then proceeded to display all these behaviours when she took to the stand and has continued to since. I cannot understand how her supporters can listen to this and think she is innocent, it soooo obvious who the abuser was. It's sad, she needs help.
I can’t understand how people still believe her either. Unless they’re just like her which would make sense because no sensible, decent human could or even would treat someone the way she treated him. Birds of a feather…is all I can say of her supporters.
exactly and now she is aware that the camera was catching her smirking with condescending expressions. this was a con game. she was clearly smirking when she thought her lawyers scored points. she was not a victim in court or when with JD.
@@MDGB-ok2se people dont see what actually is/facts, they only see what they want to see or believe. Everyone is in their head with their reality usually molded by parents and social contracts/expectations, and if they are not aware of this or have childhood trauma, they will just follow blindly without critical thinking or logic.
I love how during Dr. Curry's testimony, it was one of the main times when Amber was doing her whole "taking notes" thing, which was also shown to just be her moving her pen around in the air over her pad. More acting for the cameras. Just another great video. I always come away feeling like I actually learned something and gained insight.
I relate to Johnny in so many ways, having been abused by my own mother (NPD probably) and having dating a girl who later was diagnosed with BPD. It was amazing at first, sometime later wished I hadn’t left her but watching this and having a friend of mine almost run over by his BPD wife, I can breathe a sign of relief of my choices now. Thank you for your content!
The way Johnny mentioned how "he just wanted to make it work", really hits home. I used to be in a really toxic relationship in my early 20's. Nothing physical, but we were both terrible for one another, constantly arguing and being at odds with each other. Never having had a long relationship before, we both really wanted to make it work, to find a way. We'd look at photos of old people still holding hands and stuff, going "We're gonna be like them!". After 2 years of the same old story, same old fights, we finally broke up. What's funny is that after the breakup, I somehow missed the constant arguing. THAT's how long it had been going on. I'm so happy for Johnny finally having found a way out of that terrible situation.
I feel that She would talk through gritted teeth at me if she was angry Never even shouted at me I cheated on her and we stayed together for 3 months after I was drinking a lot and couldn't see how dysfunctional I was But after the relationship ended just started connecting some dots and remembering things that were very toxic on her part Whenever I talk about it with people I always say "She's got 2 maybe 3 VERY good reasons to absolutely hate my guts and I've got a few reasons of my own to say that this was a two way street" I still miss her in a way, but there was toxic shit before I cheated on her (not excusing, just my way of remembering the timeline) Like glaring at me with contempt when I comforted her friend who's boyfriend had just committed suicide, I put my right hand on her left shoulder and said "he's at peace now, he loved you he's not in pain anymore" and my girlfriend at the time looked at me with contempt and anger and then she walked away shaking her head, this absolutely fried my brain, absolutely did not compute 😂 I've heard recently that she said that she and I weren't exclusive when we were together, which is funny because she told me to think of her as her wife Sorry for the long ass comment But she threatened me with suicide a few times too, she sent me a text threatening suicide (this was a couple of weeks after she broke up with me) and then she left to go to work, so I drove over to her house to see her and talk to her, but her housemate had told me she had gone to work, so the housemate and I had a cigarette and I told her I was worried about my ex and worried she was gonna hurt herself And then later, my ex accused me of trying to fuck her housemate Worst period of my life so far
Thanks again for the input on this woman's awful character. In a just world, she'd be going to jail for her criminal behaviour towards Jonny, not getting rich on a round of interviews and puff publications by the pandering industry. Its always great to see people, especially women, standing up for the cause of true female equality, not merely false female empowerment, since equality also means not giving a pass to female perpetrated violence, degradation and abuse, and calling it out when it does occur, just as much as it means women having the same opportunities and earning the same rewards and acclaim as men for their achievements. Please keep posting, my lady and I will be watching.
@@etsequentia6765 , That is true, but thankfully, not all women are Womyn, for all that Hollywood thinks that they are. Look at the insightful lady who runs this very channel. Indeed, the lady I'm married to, is if anything angrier with Amber Heard and her ilk than I am, she in fact followed the trial exhaustively and was cheering at the verdict, where as I tended to avoid it since it'd be more likely to trigger my rage response from my own abuse. This literal hysteria about Womyn! can't last forever, Jonny getting justice is hopefully a sign of that, as is the increasing reinforcement of go woke, go broke media.
phenomenal analysis. i had no idea he was also dealing with his moms death AND on top of that he got robbed. the fact that he didn’t kill anyone during this time says so much about him. i guess sooner or later we’re all tested.
You must have gone through this as I have. This video is bar none, the most accurate, informative, factual recreation I've seen. Not even the professionals I've seen come close to your assesment of JDs nightmare! Well done!
8:24 I feel like she went from ignoring to suddenly acknowledging what the psych. was saying. The only way Amber can redeem herself is to admit that she has an issue. There are a lot of folks who concede to the diagnosis and have moved on with their lives.
unfortunately one of the characteristics of cluster B personality disorders is lack of insight and the inability to acknowledge there is something wrong with them. How do you change something you won't acknowledge, you can't. I've dealt with too many cluster b pd's in my life. I would tell people to take care of yourself and leave. You can't wait for anybody to change. The only one you can change is yourself. I can feel sorry for them but from a distance. Their dysfunctional backround created them just like it created me, except I'm lucky enough to work on my issues.
I think her issues are worse. She never loved johnny, she had dark plans. We are many to say hes lucky to be alive, shes the type to hire a hitman. She almost drove him to suicide or overdose.. And you see that she continues to defame him on tv 🤦🏻♀️
look at how Dr. Curry used actual evaluations for her analysis. and remember how Dr. Dawn Hughes, a BOARD CERTIFIED, just used lies and rumors that Amber fed her as proof. Ol Eline tried hard to throw Dr. Curry just bc she wasn't board certified. what a joke! this case showed me that paid professionals will give whatever answer you want for the right price and Dr. Hughes advertises paid professional opinions on her site. disgusting
She had to do something - hell ANYTHING - to stop her throwing killer dirty looks at the Dr haha. Because as the good Dr pointed out, not being able to take criticism at all is part of the diagnosis.
I think it's worth mentioning that Amber's response to being confronted about her fecal prank was to relentlessly gaslight Depp, insisting that he was having a mental breakdown because he was so "obsessed" with the incident.
Dr Curry’s diagnosis was spot on, it baffles me that people still believe Amber after all the evidence against her has been brought up, and her lying mid sentences, she will never let this go, at least Johnny can finally move on knowing most of the world believes him
The commentary during this channels exposures through out Johnny’s life with Amber is very well presented. Your ability to present the facts with true empathy is really refreshing.
The more i hear what johnny put up with for six years i find it very upsetting how someone can be so cruel to a much loved actor and friend and yet after divorce and trails she still trys to ruin his life i wish johnny all the best for the future stay strong johnny you are very much loved by the world over as for the person who abuised johnny amber heard i hope your career suffers like you tried to do to johnny
One of the best commentaries I've heard -- and I've followed this story very, very closely. Thank you for your thoughtful, in-depth, excellent coverage
Watching this video was the first time I noticed how clipped & quick Johnny’s speech pattern is when speaking of how he was treated by his wife, and even said it was like his mother. He gave a quick, nervous laugh when he said that & it was clear that laugh covered enormous emotional pain. He was behaving on the stand in a way that is so unlike “himself” that it was painful to see and my heart hurt for him while he relived those painful experiences, talking about it in court. It’s clear that he was most cruelly & repeatedly abused by her.
Where to start. The confusion, disconnect, word salad, control, crazy making, manipulation, fast shifting emotions, lack of empathy. I think the last straw was when he realized he fell in love with who he thought she was in the honeymoon phase. Then as reality clicked in and the fantasy faded away ... he realised she didn't exist at all. She started first of all acting like a sweet, charming,1950's type housewife... then shifted towards her true personality and characteristics ... imo
Until I heard those tapes and his testimony of their relationship, I thought there was no reality where the excuse “She was asking for it” wasn’t disgusting and ridiculous. But if he ever did hit her? I mean, her actions and words could drive a saint to violence! And since he obviously didn’t ever hit her very hard, if he did in fact hit her, because I have no doubt she would have the evidence of it. I still don’t think that makes him an abuser. If he was a woman who finally snapped and hit back, would we forever accuse her of being an abuser? No! She’d be considered a survivor.
IF she had any evidence of all the horrific things she claims, it would have been a slam dunk for her regardless of her vile emotional/psychological about but she basically came with nothing - AND she'd have photos LoL. IF Australian had really happened, the woman would not have been able to walk, her feet and legs would have been torn up from shards of glass. There would have been more than a few scratches on her arm which those who dealt with the situation, incl Dr. Kipper believed they were self inflicted. Cops say they saw no injury & no disarray in the penthouse - viola, suddenly there are photos of a cheek injury and photos of spilled wine and a bottle on the ground, and broken picture frame which you actually saw on the wall LoL. She's a very sick girl
@@AndreaKollo Exactly! Their also would have been partial bloody foot prints all over the place if she’d truly been bleeding after the supposed bottle rape incident, not to mention from the glass as you mentioned. She also would have had faint thin white scars all over her feet and forearms. And I agree, there’s no way in hell she wouldn’t have taken pictures of such horrible injuries, she took pictures of everything else it seems! But most of all, a real victim would never behave like she did, constantly goading him, if she was so afraid of him. My father used to be verbally abusive from PTSD after a war and I would never seek him out when he was mad or say anything I thought could make him yell at me even though I had the benefit of knowing that he might yell but he would never touch me in anger. He luckily was able to almost completely heal and never acts like that anymore thanks to falling madly in love with Cordy, our first papillon puppy. She was magic.
Wow this is almost word for word what my marriage was like. I remember showing my then wife videos of how people with borderline personality disorder felt like - she said that's exactly what she feels...., the feeling that you are going mad was constantly presented.., so where the physical and verbal attacks... Thank you for this video - watching this brought a great sense of vindication and peace. Love your channel. You are helping people more than you know. 🙏
@@flowerjpotter1629 no. She ended up having multiple affairs until I found out. Finding that out finally gave me a way out from that miserable relationship.
I think more than her feeling abandoned by his need for space, it was her feeling like he was escaping her abuse. Nobody has abandonment issues when someone goes into a bathroom except the dog or cat.
This is the best explanation I have been able to find, regarding why Johnny waited so long to leave. I recommend this to anyone going into a relationship. It is so informative, thank you for providing context that really helps all of us understand.
I was involved with a Cluster B nutter for years and people like that leave a trail of devastation in their wake. The similarities with the Depp/Heard situation are staggering
As the trial was taking place, I, as many people were, was listening to the videos online that weren’t allowed into the trial. AH’s behaviors, her voice and tactics on the audios that *were* played in the trial TOTALLY revealed AH as displaying and using *ALL* of the tactics of a person with the disorders that Dr Curry diagnosed AH with; which are *ALL* of the behaviors and actions that narcissists have and use on their victims! The trial was *SO* informative about people who are narcissists and have the cluster B personality disorders. The world has had a great lesson about narcissistic people and was a *HUGE* cautionary tale about the red flags for people to watch out for in those *sick* people and to run like hell away from them ASAP!
Your analysis is spot on. Give Johnny credit for hanging on as long as he did and really trying to make it work but it was unsustainable because she was too violent and incapable of budging an inch. It has to be 100% her way or the highway. Anything that isn't exactly according to her expectations she will blow up and attack him. It's really unfortunate as don't think anyone can put up with her.
This breakdown about Amber is so very much right on . Its hard to believe that her full mental health issues were so well explained. Johnny tried his best to try to deal with her. Certainly tragic and very sad in so many ways. She is actually dangerous. Its time to secure help for her before she actually does harm someone beyond what Johnny experienced.
damn. I've heard some things about how parental influence may carry over to the types of people one finds themselves in relationships with. I did not know any of this about Johnny Depp's mother or her death being potentially the last straw for him. Your explanations about Amber's quick rage and piling criticisms slightly reminded me of my own mother, and Johnny Depp's escapist coping mechanisms of myself. What especially struck me was at 17:33 about Johnny Depp hiding in seven different rooms while Amber kept chasing, banging and piling on her criticisms. I have countless memories of me hiding in my bathroom (only room I had that locked) while my mother would randomly switch between brooding to my dad and barging into my bedroom and banging and kicking at my bathroom door taunting me with an unnervingly calm voice. When my dad wasn't home this would go on for what felt like HOURS, and I was amazed that the door didn't budge. But if he was home, oh boy would I be in trouble. She would call him to unlock (god knows how he has a key), and then it was futile trying to use my weight on the door against two overweight adults. I don't remember why I once covered my head with a sweater once, but she was swinging to confiscate my phone and not seeing where my face was she swung at my nose and I got a nosebleed. Probably wouldn't have happened if I just gave her my phone lol. It used to be over big mistakes, but over the years anything minor would trigger her and one criticism became a dozen in half an hour. She would rarely resort to some swings at me but it would happen and I would just cower while saying "STOP!". We had our fair share of verbal fits but I always chickened out and froze in place, cowering if she started hitting me.
You nailed the history of the relationship and doing it very simpel and to the point. So easy to see the horrible way Johnny Depp was treated. Glad he won the trial and can move on, finally !
Well done ! Excellent piece of work. This case has brought home so much important information people (myself included) need to understand. Personally Disorders cause so much prolonged pain and suffering, the recipient of such tactics does think they are the one going mad. Depp hi-lighted the fact so clearly of how we can end up in a relationship that mirrors those problems we have already experienced through a parent. It needs to be said BECAUSE THAT WAS OUR VERY FIRST EXPERIENCE OF WHAT LOVE AND BONDING FELT LIKE AND SO SOME PART OF US STILL BELIEVES THIS IS WHAT LOVE HAS TO BE. When of course it doesn't. This isn't love it's an ordeal. My biggest hope about this case is two fold: • Awareness men can be DV victims. • People noticing how much worse this would have been had they produced children, so the idea filters into their own lives to only make children in a safe loving relationship. Thank you Baggage Claim, please keep making these awesome videos 🌻
This was a good analysis of the dynamics between JD and AH. The description of how she was intensely afraid of abandonment and how he would avoid conflict both point to how they had learned to cope and love differently. Amber took it waaaayy too far when she became abusive.
Johnny is a gentle and sensitive soul. It's incredibly difficult for the wealthy and famous people to find genuine love, which is probably why they gravitate towards others with their own wealth and/or fame, because they believe they can trust that the love is real. He'd do well with an emotionally healthy average woman that actually loves him, and is willing to sign a prenup forfeiting any claim to his wealth.
You are a breath of fresh air. Because of your voice, I am assuming that you are a young woman, in your 20s. I am 76, and finally I hear a young woman that has my opinions on today's woman. I am not a feminist and would never vote for the Equal Rights Amendment. I have lived through what this supposed equality with men is supposed to have gained by women. I worked in the legal field for many years, and what I saw in female attorneys was their trying so hard to be like men that they completely gave up their femininity. Women becoming men like loses the whole point for me. I find that working with mostly women is much more difficult that working with mostly men. I do not appreciate cursing, and many of the female attorneys had the dirtiest mouths not only with cursing, but with telling off color jokes.
Sorry to tell you, bro, but this IS about equality; if women are strong, powerful creatures that can do anything, we should treat them as such, and that includes recognising them as potential abusers. I'm so sorry that female attorneys "lose their femininity" when they enter an aggressive field of work. It might "lose the point" of women for you, but women are not just there to smile gormlessly and look pretty for old fuckfaces like you anymore.
If you think feminism simply allowed women to start cursing then you’ve completely lost sight of what it has achieved. It is because of women that fought for our rights that we have the ability to own a home, work for a living, support ourselves financially, own a credit card, choose what to do with OUR bodies without completely and utterly relying on a man for food, clothing and shelter. A man who could easily abandon or abuse leaving a woman with no option but to suffer the abuse or become destitute.
I watched the whole trial. I wasn’t originally engaged in any of the hype while it was publicized and really saw everything you’re talking about for myself. I really appreciated your summary of this whole thing - you’ve done an incredible job of really boiling down the thing into a good, pointed, coherent summary. So great, and thank you. 😊
Her analysis was spot on. If there is any medication that could change this behavior to a more normal personality, she didn't mention it. AH was a known COKE HEAD. Also loves wine. Couple that with her illness and THAT is what JD had to deal with. She must have hid it for some time , then revealed her true self when they married.
As with other severe psychiatric disorders getting them to take the medication is the problem. I don't understand when it's not delivered in one of those devices planted under the skin like the birth control one is. Yes. You are right about the snow nose, but if you listen to the Australian tape you hear her saying she only JUST took then out comes a list. Yet all she does is bang on about his drug problem even accusing him of using quaaludes which nobody has been able to obtain for decades now.
@@flowerjpotter1629 We all know now that it was a scheme to obtain JD's wealth. Maybe there's an ongoing investigation about all of it. Perhaps some drugs are available to the rich or maybe not. Until she is fully prosecuted, I feel justice is not completely served. All the perjury , the Australian incident with the dogs, and his severed finger. They call it glassing, I think. Plus that UK corrupt Court . There's even PERJURY there. Everyone is not equal under the law. This is a clear example.
Also, AH recorded many things to use against Johnny w/o his knowledge. Very sad, string of events, especially for JD who is a kind soul who really did try to help her and her famiky & friends. Can't help wonder if she conspired with his business managers.
Thank you so much for this video. It’s a perfect distillation of the end of their marriage and why Johnny stayed so long with her and why he made his decision to finally leave. Really nice job.
Gosh you do have such a fantastic voice for narration. It is so calming and soothing and you have a lovely lilt and tone of speech. I have sensory processing disorder and voices are important to me. Some people I can not listen to and others I can, and you (and Mr Depp) I can listen to.
I'm not surprised even abused women and men , did not side with Amber after seeing her actions in court , she described every thing they went through while working with them and made it her own , she faked her crying , and stood there looking at everyone with contempt even making jokes with her attorney .she was so rude to Camille , and would not face her when answering her questions .just talking to the juries ,even saying yes I'll do it again if he touches my sister which she's got no feeling towards . Poor Johnny is a slow talker and she kept running her mouth like a windmill with a determent attitude . No wonder she lost . Johnny is safe from her clutches and she can't stand not being in charge of him anymore . Sorry to all those who were abused in their lives , and hope they escaped their bad treatment and sorted their lives for the better .
At 10:14. Dr Curry nails it. She assumed Johnny's life. His money and fame is what she wanted from him. When he lost his 650 million dollars it was too much for her. Everything about her was about her loosing his money. She couldn't live with out it and why she wouldn't leave him. It's always been about fame and money.
I find it so sad that she can't see that alot of his misfortune started when she supplanted into his life. Excessive spending, increasing use of drugs, the decrease in ability to make decisions due to clouding from problems with her, with drugs, with his mother...all leading to the loss of 650 mill because his business manager took advantage. Then because she sees that the money is no longer a bottomless pit and because he won't tolerate the abuse any longer, she decides to lash out. It's infuriating that she can't see the connection of her abuse and his downward spiral.
This question is easy. JD finally left AH because she drove him crackers! A person can only take so much before their body starts to shut down. I believe JD was on the verge of a serious nervous breakdown, so he had to get himself free.
I forgot about Dr. Curry's testimony because so much was happening during the trial and aftermath. I feel _extremely_ sorry for Johnny for everything he went through and for not believing him at first. 😢 I even feel a bit sorry for Amber because she needs a lot of help and her supporters are just enabling her. They care more about what she represents than her as a individual and they either don't know it or don't care at all. But that's where my sympathy ends because she put Kate James and (allegedly) Whitney through a nightmare too.
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You can even see it with the way she dealt with the Australia stuff. Everyone had started to move on, and you'd think she'd want to let it go and hope it ended up being brushed under the carpet rather than risk further charges or a permanent ban from a country she might need to film in for Aquaman. Instead it almost seemed like ages after the whole Pistol and Boo thing, out of the blue she's like "hang on, don't you dare forget me random minister from Australia who annoyed me that time. I'm going to deliberately provoke you again by naming my dog after you and then posting it all over insta. That'll show you!" I think she thought she was being witty and getting her own back, but most people in Aus just saw it as a sad cry for attention including the minister she was trying to provoke. It did nothing for her reputation over here at all. More people seemed to be laughing at her attempts to be insulting (rather than with her as she probably expected), and alernatively no one really got angry or upset by her "insult" (mostly just bemused or generally annoyed at her attitude.) It's almost like any attention is better than none, regardless of how negatively the potential is to affect her in the long run. She can't let anything go or accept that she did the wrong thing, even if it would be the best course of action she could take under the circumstances if she thought about it rationally. If the charges do get bought up again (which is possible, I think there's a few people in parliment that have been waiting on the other trial to finish and wondering if it's worth the trouble pushing this case through or not), it'll likely be labeled "unfair"by her, rather than "consequences of actions taken."
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This woman knows what she's talking about~~I've always said that Amber has mental issues and they will come out in time~~I'm not just saying this because I love and adore Johnny, but I'm in the mental health field and have been for about 40 years now and I've heard and seen it all~~Amber needs mental help NOW before something really bad happens and it will~~She can be sweetie as well as she can be evil~~Mental health professionals know what I'm saying~~I just hope she gets help soon before it's to late~~Deep down she's probably a nice person~~But something happened to this woman for her to turn out like she has~~Her actions will not go away overnight~~Fact~~
The hilarious part is that Amber proved the diagnosis as soon as she got on the stand. The Doctor described her perfectly.
Yeah
I know right.. Curry’s description was EXACTLY WHAT HEARD DID.. it was hysterical and Heard didn’t even see it.. 😂
Curry missed ASPD and NPD, but she had limited time, and I believe talking about psychopathy and narcissism in a US court doesn't fly very well.
Exactly. If Curry had testified *after* Heard it would have been highly suspicious, Curry MUST surely have tailored her testimony to reflect Heard's. Nobody could be that accurate, could they?
But the fact Curry went first proved devastating to Team Heard's case.
The doctor is also describing Megan markle to a T 🤔
Notice how dr curry used “them” to describe the person who’s suffering for borderline personality disorder even though it mostly affects women; compared to dr hughes who constantly used male pronouns when talking about abusers. Dr curry comes off as professional and without a narrative to push
Dr. Hughes was a joke!
Dr. Hughes Made a mistake on the stand. She reference JD having been on the receiving end of ambers abuse
A true professional that didn't make the abuser gender specific.
@@BaggageClaim Took the words right out of my mouth
@Wynn Wynn I mean, she was tested extensively by people who are not armchair psychologists, and diagnosed with two personality disorders, neither or which was narcissistic personality disorder. Additionally, the diagnoses were then broken down and explained by the diagnosing psychiatrist. She testified for a few hours, you are able to review exactly how she arrived at the dual diagnosis.
AH maybe a selfish twat, but she is not a clinical narcissist, according to actual professionals with expert level knowledge, education, certifications, and experience. And muffins, ELAINE.
I was married to a woman with BPD, and I can totally relate to Johnny's situation. The "love bombing" phase of the relationship makes you feel like this person is too good to be true, and in fact they are. They pretend to have all the same interests and beliefs that you do, but in the devaluation phase you find out that isn't true. They may not have any true beliefs of their own, so they simply adopt the beliefs of the person they are with for a time. Then they switch when it is time for the devaluation phase of the relationship. Then they engage in verbal and emotional abuse. In my case my ex would resort to threats of suicide and self harm. She literally beat her head against the wall. When I put my hands around her head, so she couldn't hurt herself, she grabbed a dollar store steak knife and attempted to stab herself. I laid on the floor of the kitchen with the knife blade in my hand, restraining her from stabbing herself, for several hours until she finally gave up and went to bed. That was just one borderline fit. Others included yelling, screaming, insults, extreme intoxication, suicide and possible murder/suicide attempts. Meanwhile she bankrupted us with her crazy spending. The relationship finally ended when she found a new victim, called the police, accused me of abuse, and filed a TPO. We ended up with a Stipulated Non-contact Order, thank God. I can relate to the wanting to numb yourself with alcohol. I didn't want to be in the same room with her without a good beer buzz going on, because it would keep me from being hypervigilant and responding to the attacks. I feared going home, but I feared not going home more, because I knew that nights attack would be worse if I wasn't home on time. Being in one of those relationships is hell, especially if you don't see a way out. In retrospect, I should have left and filed for divorce within months of getting married. I didn't know what BPD was until after the relationship ended.
I'm crying 😭 are you okay? I mean I know that seems like probably ridiculous and superficial question but I mean it. Reading all that was like reading a real life nightmare. I'm so sorry you went through that and I empathize. The suicide threats might be some of the worst because inevitably a decent and empathetic person would blame themselves for a while if not forever...and it's awful. But then I quickly learned he was way too selfish and self centered to actually harm himself...that it was just me he was trying to hurt. Its just awful. All of it. Stories like these hurt me on a different level and i...I just truly hope you're okay and found happiness ❤
@@laur131306 Thank you. The relationship ended 13 years ago. Recovery has been slow and difficult, but I'm in a much better place now. Remarried to a woman who actually loves me. Things are good!
Glad to hear you're much happier now.
Sorry to hear, man. And glad you’re doing better nowadays. Have you ever heard what happened to her and her (at the time) new victim?
@@danreichenberg5249 I'm so happy for you! I love seeing people succeed and find happiness. ❤
She was there hearing all the descriptions of the 2 personality disorders and then went and showed it on the stand. She lost this case the second she took the stand and the jury already had a summary of her personality disorders beforehand and she she did everything Dr Curry described when on the stand.
The scary thing is, if she was a better actress and/or not so stupid to dictae trial strategy she would have likely won.
@@Xornal1 exactly, if she were a better actress and hadn’t made up the sexual violence allegation (with no evidence) Johnny wouldn’t have had a chance.
Nailed it !
I wish I’d read this before bothering to write the same thing because you said it so much better.
No matter how good an actor or actress a person is, crazy people don't know that they're crazy... she had no reason to hide her crazy because she doesn't realize that she's crazy.
Dr curry's analysis and testimony of amber was so spot on it's insane. Watching dr curry describe how flowery ppl like amber with histronic/borderline will talk, how when they try to cry it will feel very shallow to people hearing it, externalization of blame, tendency to be self righteous and deny being it, and then judge other people heavily, and so much more. Watching dr curry testify how amber does this and tried to fake ptsd, and then watching amber testify EXACTLY like dr curry described her, was too on point it was almost unbelievable how much dr curry apparently got it right.
At first when I heard her describe amber I thought she was a bought and paid for hack.... Then amber testified.... and I watched some of her UK deposition, and holy fking sht, Dr. Curry was terrifyingly accurate.
Dr Curry was a real gem in the trial.
Thank goodness the jury were paying attention to her information.
The Dr Dawn Hughs expert witness in comparison was so difficult to listen to, I don't know why.
She just seemed to drone on and on, it felt neverending and it came off as skewed. Always He's the aggressor and She's always the victim where as Dr Curry didn't apply a hard and fast rule like that.
Dr Hughs needs to stop the style of her expert court attendances sounding like she is chewing through the trunk of a huge tree trunk with her own teeth while she presents her diagnostic evidence to the court, and she's not going to stop the mouth action until she's chomped her whole way through the damn trunk. Sorry Dr Hughs but this was how you sounded and how hard it was to listen.
AH was unable to prevent herself from behaving exactly as Dr Curry described, even in front of the jury who had to judge her credibility.
She is still trying to grab attention with that unfortunate interview.
Note it was TMZ who got the TJMaxx shopping photos, do they hang out in shopping malls now? Note also that AH looks directly into the camera, to make sure she is recognized
@@risingphoenix8072 BINGO!
Dr Hughes should hang her head in shame for saying what she was required to, instead of a proper diagnosis, she must have been embarrassed watching AH behaving exactly how Dr Curry said she would, another joke of a woman giving us all a bad rap
Poor Johnny. Compare him on the stand to Amber- Johnny is constantly fiddling, looking away, giving a wry smile as he recounts horrifying things.. he is nervous, it is causing him discomfort and shame and pain and confusion. He is genuine and clearly deeply hurt. Whereas Amber... It's so fake it's unreal. Her behaviour is just play acting, her emotions don't reflect properly .. just as Doctor Currie says. What an unhealthy, sick, abusive woman Amber is.
exactly. she was so obviously fake. all that crying and not a single tear!! she overselled by 1000% should've kept it at 10% and she may have had a chance.
Actually, I saw the opposite with Johnny. He appeared to be very calm and posed while on the stand, and gave thought to each question before answering. I did not see him get ruffled at any time. He even managed to throw in some subtle humorous remarks when answering some questions. But you are spot-on about Amber.
@@Ski3953 I can see how you would see that also. I think it's less calm and more trauma response, you know? Like when shellshock sets in. He's overall so genuine and you can tell he is speaking the truth
@@katthunter6561 He was coached, and has been coached throughout his career, to remain calm for interviews. He was alerted to the questions that would be asked, and practiced his answers with his legal team in advance. This is what good lawyers help clients with.
I have noticed that to and in a way I don’t blame him. The coaching that he had will honestly do him a lot of good. It’s good for him having coaching in order to prepare for trial; but it might even help him a fair amount at coping with anxiety that he may have which apparently is harder to overcome. I can highly guarantee that there’s a reason of why he had to stay calm mentally and emotionally.
When you're dealing with a narcissist, even their terrible behaviour is presented as your fault: "look what you made me do", "you do this to me, you make me angry", "if you would just do what I said, I wouldn't have hit you". It took me so many years to understand it wasn't actually my fault.
Narcissists drain your energy.
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Indeed!
Yes! Someone I worked with had a newspaper opinion piece entitled "You make you mad" on his desk as a reminder to not let himself be affected by others' negative words or emotions.
yep 👏👏👏👏👏
It's been years! and I still feel things were y fault
It's just awful hearing all the trauma Johnny Depp went through at the hands of this monster..I hope he recovers and gets on with his life without having to carry this emotion, psychological and Spiritual pain..❤️
I like to think that good professionals like Dr. Curry have referred him to people who are able to understand what happened and to help him heal. #peaceforjohnny.
So horrible, gald he is rid of her.. Evil narcassist
As I understood the testimony, JD had sent awful texts about A-Teard to his friends - *BEFORE* he even married her, so a bit of this is on *him* smh. Hmmm, editing to say my comment smacks of victim-shaming but what I mean to say is listen to your gut; read the writing on the wall [no pun intended;] run it by friends, etc., and if things have soured before you hit the altar, don't do it!!
I read somewhere that Amber's father was extremely brutal to his wife, and his daughters. Both daughters were psychologically and mentally damaged all their lives 💔
He raised and fought dog fighting which is so brutal but most Texans are horrible to their animals.
AH Supressed her innermost mentality and presented herself as a very caring and loving personality to SEDUCE JOHNNY....
He even said that the movie where they kissed in the movie THE RUM DIARY he was smitten. Obviously once they were married the DEVIL manifested herself.
Why did he pay for her court costs.....he even when she was horribly mean and vicious to him he still helped her.
Thank God he divorced the witch.
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Monster? She has a disorder godammit. Maybe you are the monster here
I think in that recording where she says that him wanting space is "running away from the solution" says so much about her. That says to me that her definition of a "solution" is you stay and let me abuse you without leaving and then agree with me and back down. Sick. Shes truly demented.
Exactly!! Spot on point!
Totally agree.
Are all women who are bisexual demented to you?
@@technoloverish probably not. We are talking specifically about Amber Heard.
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Yes, though I think society has a fairly heavy bias against women who are bisexual or who otherwise don't fit heterosexual norms
My heart breaks for Jonny Depp.
I know he's not perfect, and made mistakes as well,
but none of us are perfect, and it's a far cry from how
he treated Amber, in comparison as to how Amber
treated him!
It took me over 7 years to leave my abusive narcissistic husband... don't let anyone tell you that just because the relationship is awful that it's easy to leave, especially when you have children together.
I hope you're doing okay now. Sorry to hear of your troubles.
@@andrewbyrne2173 thank you
I applaud you for having the courage to do that. I hope things are better for you now!
Having children would be the #1 incentive to leave. Exposing them to abvse is the worst thing you could do
Some nice judgement you have there in choosing a partner. lol
I think when Johnny's mother died he'd been bracing himself for it and probably thought that once she was gone he'd be free from his past torments.
But then he realized he hadn't escaped his mother, he'd married her.
He wasn't free and never would be unless he let Amber go.
I think once he realized Amber was just like his mother he wanted to help heal his mother through Amber.
In a way after all the abuse his mother put him through her death was the key to him freeing himself from Amber clutches.
Yes
careful with such stamps and opinions. you are not even close to him. you don't know anything of his late relationship to his mother. plus he took care of here in her last years. together with his sister.
@@juu2356 He literally talked about it on the stand and so did his sister.
Damn….
@@MirandaSinistra Wow…. Sometimes, I think I’ve had BPD behaviors. Not ….Well. Pretty terrible at the time… I appreciate you sharing that… Becoming more aware of other’s relationships and different situations, good and bad, has helped me step back and triple think before I do or say something that isn’t pleasant. At the same time, it sucks because I miss being as social-able as I once was. I’m 43. I have been as single as one could be for 2 years and I feel better but have less contact with family, friends and people in general…. Idk why I’m sharing this…. I need a therapist. Lol. I guess I’m at an unknown crossroads that isn’t familiar to any of my emotions..or senses ….
Or I smoked too much earlier… Either way, I feel better. Thanks. Your check is in the mail… I sound old.. postage…. Hit send now….
What really amazes me Is that dr. Curry described in advance the histrionic behavior Amber would show days later during her deposition. I'm sure the jury could see that clearly and that was a key to the verdict. Great analysis as always!
i think that as well,
As someone who just divorced an abusive husband, I can attest it was so hard to walk away. We didn’t have children, I wasn’t financially dependent on him, and hell, he even lived in a different state and it was hard. I absolutely feel for spouses/partners who bound by kids/money/circumstances to abusive partners because it will never get better.
It’s the emotional abuse that makes a person vulnerable. Physically leaving is possible, but narcissists are going to do everything to haunt you and chase you. Some go to dangerous levels to abuse a person, like stalking snd even killing.
Distance means nothing to them.
@@paulmark992
Neither does time Paul.
Was stalked at my home every summer for 10 years by an ex.
What finally stopped him was his fear of being filmed.
I know exactly what that feels like. I had a toxic ex-GF who used all my emotional weakness and insecurities against me. I tried to leave several times but could not get myself to because of the emotional blackmail. The mental stress becomes too much you'd relent just to stop the torture. But everytime I did, I really loathed myself. It got to a point when I was literally physically harming myself for not being able to walk away. Its never easy to escape a prison that is inside your head
I heard a stat that it takes the abused on average 7 attempts to leave an abuser.
it was hard to walk away from being abused?
Dr. Curry did massive damage to amber turds case.
and when you listen to her testimony again, you realize that she saw exactly the same behaviour that we all saw e.g. rapidly switching emotions, not actually answering questions.
She only told the truth.
AH proved her diagnosis on Stand.
And it all turned out to be true shown by AH actions after the outcome of the trial 😩
She was the most important witness for Johnny, in my opinion… her testimony helped explain why heard would act the way she did and her motivation behind her actions, which from a normal persons perspective seems illogical and crazy
Dr Curry did an excellent job of neutralising Amber’s testimony by describing what you are going to hear from her and why. It was so accurate that none of her histrionics had any effect
If we were discussing Jenny Depp and Andre Heard, we would not say it was mutually abusive. There is a victim and an abuser. The victim’s actions are reactionary. In Johnny did his level best to disengage from the violence including running from the room, zoning out using alcohol and drugs. Amber is the abuser, treater as you would any other abuser.
Yes.
I believe she needs investigating by the police if possible and ultimately jail time.
Her physical violence is diabolical.
@@flowerjpotter1629 she threw a vodka bottle at him severing his finger then claimed that he raped her with the vodka bottle instead.... she doesn't have an ounce of CONSCIENCE!! Her preposterous lies to finally totally and utterly destroy his life is what is perhaps the most heinous!
Wow thank you. I’ve been leaving comments like this in many videos but you are the first person I saw who has voiced this opinion that I do strongly agree with. Was Depp perfect? No of course not. But Heard herself said in the interview she shouldn’t have to be a perfect victim to be a victim. Responding to abuse with anger and harsh words does not make it mutual abuse. It is defending yourself as best you can and being human. I firmly agree with you
YES! I have said the same thing... 100% would not even be mentioned if the sexes we're switched. It's so fucking gross
It was so crazy to hear Dr. Curry’s testimony then Amber’s testimony and see Amber did everything Dr. Curry brought up in her diagnosis
literally EVERYTHING
It was so spot on; i was completely blown away on how accurate she was.
Dr. Curry was so spot on. The brilliance of watching her talk about AH's diagnosis - in such detail prior to Amber taking the stand , then literally Amber acting EXACTLY like Curry's description that to the Jury, almost gave me the chills. I always wondered what was Amber feverishly writing in that notebook, while Curry was talking about her - it had to have been nonsense words, or scribbles.
That was a narcissisticc oping mechanism, to assert control and feel superior
She not only was just writing whatever nonsense she was writing, several videos came out where it appears AH's is actually not touching the pad...that was bizarre for me
Their fear of abandonment turn them into abusive monsters. The saddest part with toxic relationships is that they are the hardest to leave
Turn Amber into an abusive monster & turning the relationship toxic, NOT both. Defending yourself like Johnny did isn't abuse.
She was toxic. Depp was passive until he reached the point of no return realising that it was all a charade and he was being used by her and her friends and yet they were trying to twist that knife further with no remorse. He ignored his friends and his kids who knew from get go not to marry her
@@rustysimonds5011 You're usually the last to open your eyes with this type of people. You believe that you're here to save them
@@emmahowells8334 Johnny is a hero for most of us. He deserve every bit of this victory and should have been awarded more than 15M
@@kaysha He's a hero to me too, that's why I defend him. I agree with you he does deserve to be awarded more than he was. That's why I commented what I did in defence of Johnny.
I just feel really bad for Johnny. At that age in your life you just want to be content and comfortable with someone. Home should be a haven, not somewhere you are afraid to go back to.
Let's stop this charade that AH felt threatened/abandoned by JD walking away from her abuse (not "a fight" but her attacking him). She was angry and got angrier because she was losing control over her target when he hid for his own safety. And she was especially angry that he didn't respond with violence, since that was her plan all along:
"He hit me. Look! Look world! I'm hit! I'm down! OWWWWW! Ouch! It hurts me! I'M the victim. I'M the poor little thing can you believe this happened to ME? Pretty f*ckable ME?"
"Now give me a cookie. $10 million cookies."
Amber Heard is a disgusting, violent, conman. Put it in prison with the others. That's much nicer than what they would do to her in another time and place. Enough of this "she's incapable." No. She's unwilling.
Your first paragraph, last sentence, you hit it RIGHT ON 100 percent.
This was an extremely good compilation of videos. It must have taken a lot of work to go through all of them to find just the ones needed to show what finally triggered Johnny's decision to leave. As many of the videos as I've watched, I don't think I ever really understood why he stayed in the relationship so long. Good job!
Another reason why someone might stay is if they came from a family of divorced parents. They stay in a bad marriage trying to convince themselves divorce is not the answer. Especially kind-hearted people, they think they can get along with anyone. So sad.
I agree. Great video explaining it all.
When you listen to Johnny, you hear such a hurt but gentle man. After all he's endured he's still come out genuine and a good person which I find admirable.
This is triggering. 😢💔
At this stage in my life, given 2 emotionally abusive relationships and a parental abusive relationship I simply don’t have anymore empathy for disordered individuals. They cause too much damage to others. It’s sickening. This should be criminal.
Im in a similar boat as you. Been in abusive relationships, struggled in my childhood. Hardest parts are ending the cycle, and recognizing where I have to unlearn toxic behavior myself since it can get sneakily engrained.
The moment I heard the recording of Amber saying "look what you make me do" I KNEW she was the problem. It was honestly chilling.
What's more disturbing is that amber has a child in HER care.
I predict "Mommie Dearest" vibes. If she could make herself Johnny's primary caregiver as he was coming off the drugs (she must have enjoyed holding the reins on that situation), I wonder how she is with that child.
@@FeelinErie yeahhh I think that too unfortunately poor kid
I feel bad for her child. If no one is ever good enough for her, imagine the unattainable expectations shes gonna have for her daughter
This was the best summing up of the entire relationship I've heard. A simple explanation of all the trauma Johnny was put through. It was heartbreaking for him, I'm glad he managed to escape the and hope he finds peace and happiness in his life.
"Youll often get a sense that their behaviour is play-acting"
amber: (pretends to take notes without touching pen to the paper)
She was scribbling away while Dr Curry described her to a tee. Who knows if they were real or pretend, it must have taken a huge effort not to respond to the Dr's words with killer dirty looks from Amber.
I’m so sad anyone has to live thru this but Kodos to JD for exposing this. It can help a lot of ppl understand their situation! Perhaps he can free even one 💔
Spot on. Doctor Curry nailed it and you analyzed her behavior perfectly. I don't think she'll ever see it and from what's happening to the truth tellers on YT ... the attacks, doxxing and cancelling by her minions, I hope you don't now have a target on your back. She goes after everyone that don't agree with her. I'm hoping truth wins out and everyone will unite to put a stop to her behavior. We can't depend on MSM to tell us the truth so people who want the real story depend on many trusted you tubers research and are told to do our own research. That's a sign of a good journalist, etc. Thank you. Follow TUG for the really deep dives into AH. Things are about to get wild. "United we stand, divided we fall" has a whole new meaning when it comes to battling this Aggressive Narcissist.
"Truth Tellers"
I won't disparage TUG specifically, I like him well enough, but just because some of these internet parasites latch onto a true story for clicks doesn't make them a "truth teller". Nick Rekieta once went after other youtubers just for taking fan donations because that was just a thing that was popular with his clique at the time, now it's a bad thing just because he is now the target of the exact narrative. People will sorely regret the popularity these narcissists gained from milking Depp's and Heard's misery.
One of the few content creators who I will sit RIGHT through the ad and listen to the whole thing, because what you put out is so worth it. Great analysis ever time, sincere, reasonable and based.
Seems like a lot of truth is getting dropped on the topic of abusive women and "toxic" femininity - but it's high time we as a society started seeing women as the complex human beings they are. True equality demands that - NOT pretending women are somehow magically equal but also BETTER.
Wow thank you for sitting through the ad. Your support means so much to me!
Not "toxic" femininity. Not in quotes. It's time we said it out loud and unapologetically: TOXIC FEMININITY. It's time we stopped ignoring it, excusing it or celebrating and rewarding it. Toxic femininity kills. It's time to confront and dismantle our gynocentric prejudices. It's time to stop blaming and mocking the male victims (and dismissing the child victims as well).
What’s toxic femininity?
@@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim What's toxic masculinity?
@@etsequentia6765 Wikipedia: “The concept of toxic masculinity is used… to refer to certain cultural norms that are associated with harm to society and men themselves.” Eg. normalization of violence and sexual aggression (boys will be boys) as well as repression of emotion (real men don’t cry, depression is for wimps etc).”
I was married to someone like Amber Heard. It was horrible and painful. I stayed for so much longer than I should have. It's been 12 years since I got away, but I am still reeling from the damage.
Takes a very long time to get over depending on what they did and your own personality.
Took me a good 15 years to get over a covert narcissus (18 year marriage), but even now 20 years on he's there in dreams so there's still stuff I need to get to the bottom of.
Once you work out the different aspects they seem to go away so you just have to go through whatever your subconscious is throwing up until that bit is done. I call it naming the demons.
Me too, Lisa.
The borderline will not relinquish their ‘victim’ identity. Acknowledging wrong doing gives power to the other person and this is why the borderline will never admit they’re wrong. They double down. They are skilled at blame-shifting and transfer their toxic shame onto their chosen target.
The reason Amber was unwilling to let Johnny go was because he was such a rich source of narcissistic supply. The burden of her toxic shame overwhelmed her, this is why she wouldn’t let Johnny leave. She could only get her ‘release’ once Johnny took on her burden.
She wouldn’t let him leave because she needed her fix in the form of narcissistic supply, nothing to do with abandonment. It’s cruel and selfish but the borderline is unbothered with the devastation they cause as long as it means they get their fix.
I have BPD and trust me, I am blaming only myself(when I learned that I had it, around the time I was 19 I read a lot and tried to find why do I have BPD, because my childhood was amazing-I asked my parents so many times if anything bad actually happened…). I hate myself(inside&out) and I blame myseld for things that aren’t sometimes even my fault. Each time I have an “episode” and overreact, I realize what the f… I’ve done and go and apologize.
Obviously saying sorry isn’t enough, I have a therapist. Many times I went through CBT(DBT is kinda non existing in where I live) and it helped me so much. I am trying to be a better person, because I don’t want to be mean to people around me.
I am trying to tell everyone that they should look for a better person, that I am complicated and don’t want to ruin anyone’s life. There’s been a huge progress, yet I am still not even close to be “normal”. I have GAD&ED(and had more problems during my life, they aren’t really helping me with getting better(plus my dad died in 2020, so I felt like everything I’ve done -to be a better person- is gone).
Self harming is sometimes still a problem. And yes, like 10 years ago I was a total brat. But I (thank God) had a great support system.
I was not the best girlfriend. But I was not verbally&physically abusive. Don’t get me wrong, I was super jealous and blamed my partners, had many arguments(most of them were because of me).
But I know many people with BPD and all of them are abusive to themselves, not their parter/family/friends.
Are there violent people with BPD.? For sure. But it’s not because they have BPD but because BPD almost always co-occurs with another mental illness/disorder.
@@MSeliskaZ Well Amber was alsoo diagnosed with HPD, But a person can just be evil outide all those diagnosis I think. I am diagnosed with Aspergers and ADHD myself.
@@MSeliskaZ great insight and I wish you the best. Keep demanding more from yourself🧡🧡🧡
I think a lot of your points were correct but I completely disagree that abandonment wasn’t a huge huge trigger for her. You don’t “leave” a narcissist they leave you. She shows behavior of all three BPD narc and histrionic.
@@MSeliskaZ
Thank you for explaining.
I wish you Good Luck with your journey to good health ☘️
Those who never experienced what it is like being trapped in an abusive relationship will never understand. Simplistic people will always go "Oh why did you not just get up and leave then". It is not that simple. You can not easily escape when the actual prison is inside your head. I once had a toxic ex-GF who was emotionally and psychologically abusive. She played my anxiety and other weaknesses like a harp. See the thing about abusers is that they never really start out to be the monsters that you will see them transform into. They will initially appear to be the sweetest human beings who will comfort you. And then when you trust them with all your fears and insecurity that is when they start using that against you. That is what Johnny went through. I know because I went through the same thing. I got emotionally blackmailed all the time, gaslighted, and she would threaten me of self-harm and other shit. Something like this causes so much stress in your brain you would really relent just to end the torture. In effect I started self-loathing. I hated myself for not being able to walk away and always folding to her. I even ruined relationships in my family that I am still trying to fix. My biggest mistake was not being able to talk about it because people tend to dismiss abuse stories when it is a man at the receiving end.
Iron heart, it sounds like you have been through such a lot of hurt and pain, I am so sorry this happened.
If you haven't tried seeing a therapist that could help you, it could also help with mending those fences with others if the therapist is open to allowing important individuals to attend a session with you to help them grasp the terrible ordeal you were suffering and how that impacted upon them.
Good luck, you're a brave soul with a Kind Heart ☘️
Thank you for sharing. I too was in the same position. You are so right that people dont really understand unless they've been through it.
I’m not sure if enjoyed was the right word, because it made me incredibly sad. Having been through the letting go of a loved one because of their behaviour made this too real for me. I get how hard it was for Johnny to walk away, the feeling that you have failed someone, not really understanding at the time, that really they failed you. 😔
The more I see and hear from AH, by rewatching trial clips, interviews, PSA's and every other thing she has done, the more I can clearly see the monster that lies below the surface. I certainly hope that Johnny can heal from this and get back to who he was before he met her. From living with an abusive mother, being abandoned by his father, to being married to AH, I think he has been through enough. Thank you Johnny for being willing to put your life on display, warts and all, so that people can be educated to this hidden and under reported issue. Thank you also, Baggage Claim for an excellent, factual, well thought out expose. Keep up the excellent work!
You have such a great gift for processing large amounts of information and condensing it into key points and moving? explanations. It's wonderful. Thank you.❤️
Thats why I subscribed.
Baggage Claim is very intelligent, and on point.
Love her vids.
I agree!
She has a 150 IQ. I admire her intelligence and ability to articulate herself. Enjoy her content a lot
She literally then proceeded to display all these behaviours when she took to the stand and has continued to since.
I cannot understand how her supporters can listen to this and think she is innocent, it soooo obvious who the abuser was. It's sad, she needs help.
I can’t understand how people still believe her either. Unless they’re just like her which would make sense because no sensible, decent human could or even would treat someone the way she treated him. Birds of a feather…is all I can say of her supporters.
exactly and now she is aware that the camera was catching her smirking with condescending expressions. this was a con game. she was clearly smirking when she thought her lawyers scored points. she was not a victim in court or when with JD.
@@MDGB-ok2se people dont see what actually is/facts, they only see what they want to see or believe. Everyone is in their head with their reality usually molded by parents and social contracts/expectations, and if they are not aware of this or have childhood trauma, they will just follow blindly without critical thinking or logic.
I love how during Dr. Curry's testimony, it was one of the main times when Amber was doing her whole "taking notes" thing, which was also shown to just be her moving her pen around in the air over her pad. More acting for the cameras.
Just another great video. I always come away feeling like I actually learned something and gained insight.
I relate to Johnny in so many ways, having been abused by my own mother (NPD probably) and having dating a girl who later was diagnosed with BPD. It was amazing at first, sometime later wished I hadn’t left her but watching this and having a friend of mine almost run over by his BPD wife, I can breathe a sign of relief of my choices now.
Thank you for your content!
The way Johnny mentioned how "he just wanted to make it work", really hits home. I used to be in a really toxic relationship in my early 20's. Nothing physical, but we were both terrible for one another, constantly arguing and being at odds with each other. Never having had a long relationship before, we both really wanted to make it work, to find a way. We'd look at photos of old people still holding hands and stuff, going "We're gonna be like them!". After 2 years of the same old story, same old fights, we finally broke up. What's funny is that after the breakup, I somehow missed the constant arguing. THAT's how long it had been going on. I'm so happy for Johnny finally having found a way out of that terrible situation.
I feel that
She would talk through gritted teeth at me if she was angry
Never even shouted at me
I cheated on her and we stayed together for 3 months after
I was drinking a lot and couldn't see how dysfunctional I was
But after the relationship ended just started connecting some dots and remembering things that were very toxic on her part
Whenever I talk about it with people I always say
"She's got 2 maybe 3 VERY good reasons to absolutely hate my guts and I've got a few reasons of my own to say that this was a two way street"
I still miss her in a way, but there was toxic shit before I cheated on her (not excusing, just my way of remembering the timeline)
Like glaring at me with contempt when I comforted her friend who's boyfriend had just committed suicide, I put my right hand on her left shoulder and said "he's at peace now, he loved you he's not in pain anymore" and my girlfriend at the time looked at me with contempt and anger and then she walked away shaking her head, this absolutely fried my brain, absolutely did not compute 😂
I've heard recently that she said that she and I weren't exclusive when we were together, which is funny because she told me to think of her as her wife
Sorry for the long ass comment
But she threatened me with suicide a few times too, she sent me a text threatening suicide (this was a couple of weeks after she broke up with me) and then she left to go to work, so I drove over to her house to see her and talk to her, but her housemate had told me she had gone to work, so the housemate and I had a cigarette and I told her I was worried about my ex and worried she was gonna hurt herself
And then later, my ex accused me of trying to fuck her housemate
Worst period of my life so far
Thanks again for the input on this woman's awful character.
In a just world, she'd be going to jail for her criminal behaviour towards Jonny, not getting rich on a round of interviews and puff publications by the pandering industry.
Its always great to see people, especially women, standing up for the cause of true female equality, not merely false female empowerment, since equality also means not giving a pass to female perpetrated violence, degradation and abuse, and calling it out when it does occur, just as much as it means women having the same opportunities and earning the same rewards and acclaim as men for their achievements.
Please keep posting, my lady and I will be watching.
Nah. We'll keep on pretending womyn are blameless angels as usual.
@@etsequentia6765 , That is true, but thankfully, not all women are Womyn, for all that Hollywood thinks that they are.
Look at the insightful lady who runs this very channel.
Indeed, the lady I'm married to, is if anything angrier with Amber Heard and her ilk than I am, she in fact followed the trial exhaustively and was cheering at the verdict, where as I tended to avoid it since it'd be more likely to trigger my rage response from my own abuse.
This literal hysteria about Womyn! can't last forever, Jonny getting justice is hopefully a sign of that, as is the increasing reinforcement of go woke, go broke media.
phenomenal analysis. i had no idea he was also dealing with his moms death AND on top of that he got robbed. the fact that he didn’t kill anyone during this time says so much about him. i guess sooner or later we’re all tested.
You must have gone through this as I have. This video is bar none, the most accurate, informative, factual recreation I've seen. Not even the professionals I've seen come close to your assesment of JDs nightmare! Well done!
Thank you
8:24 I feel like she went from ignoring to suddenly acknowledging what the psych. was saying. The only way Amber can redeem herself is to admit that she has an issue. There are a lot of folks who concede to the diagnosis and have moved on with their lives.
unfortunately one of the characteristics of cluster B personality disorders is lack of insight and the inability to acknowledge there is something wrong with them. How do you change something you won't acknowledge, you can't.
I've dealt with too many cluster b pd's in my life. I would tell people to take care of yourself and leave. You can't wait for anybody to change. The only one you can change is yourself. I can feel sorry for them but from a distance. Their dysfunctional backround created them just like it created me, except I'm lucky enough to work on my issues.
I think her issues are worse. She never loved johnny, she had dark plans. We are many to say hes lucky to be alive, shes the type to hire a hitman. She almost drove him to suicide or overdose..
And you see that she continues to defame him on tv 🤦🏻♀️
@@brianwalsh1401 😰😢
look at how Dr. Curry used actual evaluations for her analysis. and remember how Dr. Dawn Hughes, a BOARD CERTIFIED, just used lies and rumors that Amber fed her as proof. Ol Eline tried hard to throw Dr. Curry just bc she wasn't board certified. what a joke! this case showed me that paid professionals will give whatever answer you want for the right price and Dr. Hughes advertises paid professional opinions on her site. disgusting
Great content as always, Baggage Claim.
Amber taking copious notes during Dr Curry's explanation of the personality disorders is beyond words.
But she wasn’t writing anything just pretending
Ye pen didnt even touch the paper
She had to do something - hell ANYTHING - to stop her throwing killer dirty looks at the Dr haha.
Because as the good Dr pointed out, not being able to take criticism at all is part of the diagnosis.
@@flowerjpotter1629 s#
“When I lost the tip of my finger.” Would he phrase it like that if he’d done it to himself?
I think it's worth mentioning that Amber's response to being confronted about her fecal prank was to relentlessly gaslight Depp, insisting that he was having a mental breakdown because he was so "obsessed" with the incident.
Dr Curry’s diagnosis was spot on, it baffles me that people still believe Amber after all the evidence against her has been brought up, and her lying mid sentences, she will never let this go, at least Johnny can finally move on knowing most of the world believes him
The commentary during this channels exposures through out Johnny’s life with Amber is very well presented. Your ability to present the facts with true empathy is really refreshing.
The more i hear what johnny put up with for six years i find it very upsetting how someone can be so cruel to a much loved actor and friend and yet after divorce and trails she still trys to ruin his life i wish johnny all the best for the future stay strong johnny you are very much loved by the world over as for the person who abuised johnny amber heard i hope your career suffers like you tried to do to johnny
Johnny's abusive mother desensitized him to abuse. He numbs himself so that he is continually de-sensitized.
One of the best commentaries I've heard -- and I've followed this story very, very closely. Thank you for your thoughtful, in-depth, excellent coverage
Her behavior and manner of speech during the trial was like watching a psychotic and derelict robot pretend to be human.
That was funny.
Watching this video was the first time I noticed how clipped & quick Johnny’s speech pattern is when speaking of how he was treated by his wife, and even said it was like his mother.
He gave a quick, nervous laugh when he said that & it was clear that laugh covered enormous emotional pain.
He was behaving on the stand in a way that is so unlike “himself” that it was painful to see and my heart hurt for him while he relived those painful experiences, talking about it in court. It’s clear that he was most cruelly & repeatedly abused by her.
I'm pretty sure those parts were sped up.
As someone who was raised by a narc/histrionic/bpd mother, this was really painful to watch.
That’s a very tough situation to live through
@@BaggageClaim
I don't like admitting to knowing just how that feels.
Yet another amazing commentary ... 🥰 Dr. Curry's analysis of AH is STILL proving true & accurate to this day ... 😔
Yes very!
Where to start. The confusion, disconnect, word salad, control, crazy making, manipulation, fast shifting emotions, lack of empathy. I think the last straw was when he realized he fell in love with who he thought she was in the honeymoon phase. Then as reality clicked in and the fantasy faded away ... he realised she didn't exist at all. She started first of all acting like a sweet, charming,1950's type housewife... then shifted towards her true personality and characteristics ... imo
Until I heard those tapes and his testimony of their relationship, I thought there was no reality where the excuse “She was asking for it” wasn’t disgusting and ridiculous. But if he ever did hit her? I mean, her actions and words could drive a saint to violence! And since he obviously didn’t ever hit her very hard, if he did in fact hit her, because I have no doubt she would have the evidence of it. I still don’t think that makes him an abuser. If he was a woman who finally snapped and hit back, would we forever accuse her of being an abuser? No! She’d be considered a survivor.
I agree.
IF she had any evidence of all the horrific things she claims, it would have been a slam dunk for her regardless of her vile emotional/psychological about but she basically came with nothing - AND she'd have photos LoL. IF Australian had really happened, the woman would not have been able to walk, her feet and legs would have been torn up from shards of glass. There would have been more than a few scratches on her arm which those who dealt with the situation, incl Dr. Kipper believed they were self inflicted. Cops say they saw no injury & no disarray in the penthouse - viola, suddenly there are photos of a cheek injury and photos of spilled wine and a bottle on the ground, and broken picture frame which you actually saw on the wall LoL. She's a very sick girl
@@AndreaKollo Exactly! Their also would have been partial bloody foot prints all over the place if she’d truly been bleeding after the supposed bottle rape incident, not to mention from the glass as you mentioned. She also would have had faint thin white scars all over her feet and forearms. And I agree, there’s no way in hell she wouldn’t have taken pictures of such horrible injuries, she took pictures of everything else it seems! But most of all, a real victim would never behave like she did, constantly goading him, if she was so afraid of him. My father used to be verbally abusive from PTSD after a war and I would never seek him out when he was mad or say anything I thought could make him yell at me even though I had the benefit of knowing that he might yell but he would never touch me in anger. He luckily was able to almost completely heal and never acts like that anymore thanks to falling madly in love with Cordy, our first papillon puppy. She was magic.
Wow this is almost word for word what my marriage was like. I remember showing my then wife videos of how people with borderline personality disorder felt like - she said that's exactly what she feels...., the feeling that you are going mad was constantly presented.., so where the physical and verbal attacks... Thank you for this video - watching this brought a great sense of vindication and peace. Love your channel. You are helping people more than you know. 🙏
Did showing your wife the videos change the abuse you were receiving ?
@@flowerjpotter1629 no. She ended up having multiple affairs until I found out. Finding that out finally gave me a way out from that miserable relationship.
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So glad you were able to leave.
Dr Curry what a legend, explained the Turd down to the molecular level.
She blamed everyone else basically calling everyone a liar except her - she went to a therapist because they just accept her nonsense
I think more than her feeling abandoned by his need for space, it was her feeling like he was escaping her abuse. Nobody has abandonment issues when someone goes into a bathroom except the dog or cat.
This is the best explanation I have been able to find, regarding why Johnny waited so long to leave. I recommend this to anyone going into a relationship. It is so informative, thank you for providing context that really helps all of us understand.
I just don't know how he survived. Heart breaking.
I was involved with a Cluster B nutter for years and people like that leave a trail of devastation in their wake. The similarities with the Depp/Heard situation are staggering
Same here!
As the trial was taking place, I, as many people were, was listening to the videos online that weren’t allowed into the trial.
AH’s behaviors, her voice and tactics on the audios that *were* played in the trial TOTALLY revealed AH as displaying and using *ALL* of the tactics of a person with the disorders that Dr Curry diagnosed AH with; which are *ALL* of the behaviors and actions that narcissists have and use on their victims!
The trial was *SO* informative about people who are narcissists and have the cluster B personality disorders.
The world has had a great lesson about narcissistic people and was a *HUGE* cautionary tale about the red flags for people to watch out for in those *sick* people and to run like hell away from them ASAP!
Your analysis is spot on. Give Johnny credit for hanging on as long as he did and really trying to make it work but it was unsustainable because she was too violent and incapable of budging an inch. It has to be 100% her way or the highway. Anything that isn't exactly according to her expectations she will blow up and attack him. It's really unfortunate as don't think anyone can put up with her.
He really tried to make it work
This is a great video, well done. Especially for sticking to the core facts.
Thank you!
well done. It was chilling to listen to Dr. Curry's spot on analysis again.
This breakdown about Amber is so very much right on . Its hard to believe that her full mental health issues were so well explained. Johnny tried his best to try to deal with her. Certainly tragic and very sad in so many ways. She is actually dangerous. Its time to secure help for her before she actually does harm someone beyond what Johnny experienced.
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Great video, as always. 😀
damn. I've heard some things about how parental influence may carry over to the types of people one finds themselves in relationships with. I did not know any of this about Johnny Depp's mother or her death being potentially the last straw for him. Your explanations about Amber's quick rage and piling criticisms slightly reminded me of my own mother, and Johnny Depp's escapist coping mechanisms of myself.
What especially struck me was at 17:33 about Johnny Depp hiding in seven different rooms while Amber kept chasing, banging and piling on her criticisms. I have countless memories of me hiding in my bathroom (only room I had that locked) while my mother would randomly switch between brooding to my dad and barging into my bedroom and banging and kicking at my bathroom door taunting me with an unnervingly calm voice. When my dad wasn't home this would go on for what felt like HOURS, and I was amazed that the door didn't budge. But if he was home, oh boy would I be in trouble. She would call him to unlock (god knows how he has a key), and then it was futile trying to use my weight on the door against two overweight adults. I don't remember why I once covered my head with a sweater once, but she was swinging to confiscate my phone and not seeing where my face was she swung at my nose and I got a nosebleed. Probably wouldn't have happened if I just gave her my phone lol.
It used to be over big mistakes, but over the years anything minor would trigger her and one criticism became a dozen in half an hour.
She would rarely resort to some swings at me but it would happen and I would just cower while saying "STOP!". We had our fair share of verbal fits but I always chickened out and froze in place, cowering if she started hitting me.
You nailed the history of the relationship and doing it very simpel and to the point. So easy to see the horrible way Johnny Depp was treated. Glad he won the trial and can move on, finally !
Brilliant synopsis - thank you for giving time to this fascinating story...
Well done !
Excellent piece of work.
This case has brought home so much important information people (myself included) need to understand.
Personally Disorders cause so much prolonged pain and suffering, the recipient of such tactics does think they are the one going mad.
Depp hi-lighted the fact so clearly of how we can end up in a relationship that mirrors those problems we have already experienced through a parent.
It needs to be said BECAUSE THAT WAS OUR VERY FIRST EXPERIENCE OF WHAT LOVE AND BONDING FELT LIKE AND SO SOME PART OF US STILL BELIEVES THIS IS WHAT LOVE HAS TO BE. When of course it doesn't. This isn't love it's an ordeal.
My biggest hope about this case is two fold:
• Awareness men can be DV victims.
• People noticing how much worse this would have been had they produced children, so the idea filters into their own lives to only make children in a safe loving relationship.
Thank you Baggage Claim, please keep making these awesome videos 🌻
This was a good analysis of the dynamics between JD and AH. The description of how she was intensely afraid of abandonment and how he would avoid conflict both point to how they had learned to cope and love differently. Amber took it waaaayy too far when she became abusive.
Johnny is a gentle and sensitive soul. It's incredibly difficult for the wealthy and famous people to find genuine love, which is probably why they gravitate towards others with their own wealth and/or fame, because they believe they can trust that the love is real. He'd do well with an emotionally healthy average woman that actually loves him, and is willing to sign a prenup forfeiting any claim to his wealth.
I agree wealthy people do that she wasn't shocked it was about greed plain and simple ⁉️
The clip of Dr Curry speaking, placed next to Amber listening and taking notes at the beginning, is gold. Her expressions, oh my.
You are a breath of fresh air. Because of your voice, I am assuming that you are a young woman, in your 20s. I am 76, and finally I hear a young woman that has my opinions on today's woman. I am not a feminist and would never vote for the Equal Rights Amendment. I have lived through what this supposed equality with men is supposed to have gained by women. I worked in the legal field for many years, and what I saw in female attorneys was their trying so hard to be like men that they completely gave up their femininity. Women becoming men like loses the whole point for me. I find that working with mostly women is much more difficult that working with mostly men. I do not appreciate cursing, and many of the female attorneys had the dirtiest mouths not only with cursing, but with telling off color jokes.
Sorry to tell you, bro, but this IS about equality; if women are strong, powerful creatures that can do anything, we should treat them as such, and that includes recognising them as potential abusers.
I'm so sorry that female attorneys "lose their femininity" when they enter an aggressive field of work. It might "lose the point" of women for you, but women are not just there to smile gormlessly and look pretty for old fuckfaces like you anymore.
If you think feminism simply allowed women to start cursing then you’ve completely lost sight of what it has achieved. It is because of women that fought for our rights that we have the ability to own a home, work for a living, support ourselves financially, own a credit card, choose what to do with OUR bodies without completely and utterly relying on a man for food, clothing and shelter. A man who could easily abandon or abuse leaving a woman with no option but to suffer the abuse or become destitute.
I watched the whole trial. I wasn’t originally engaged in any of the hype while it was publicized and really saw everything you’re talking about for myself. I really appreciated your summary of this whole thing - you’ve done an incredible job of really boiling down the thing into a good, pointed, coherent summary. So great, and thank you. 😊
Love your uploads. Top quality stuff. Utterly brilliant insights.
Thank you so much!
Her analysis was spot on.
If there is any medication that could change this behavior to a more normal personality, she didn't mention it. AH was a known COKE HEAD. Also loves wine. Couple that with her illness and THAT is what JD had to deal with. She must have hid it for some time , then revealed her true self when they married.
As with other severe psychiatric disorders getting them to take the medication is the problem.
I don't understand when it's not delivered in one of those devices planted under the skin like the birth control one is.
Yes.
You are right about the snow nose, but if you listen to the Australian tape you hear her saying she only JUST took then out comes a list. Yet all she does is bang on about his drug problem even accusing him of using quaaludes which nobody has been able to obtain for decades now.
@@flowerjpotter1629 We all know now that it was a scheme to obtain JD's wealth. Maybe there's an ongoing investigation about all of it. Perhaps some drugs are available to the rich or maybe not. Until she is fully prosecuted, I feel justice is not completely served. All the perjury , the Australian incident with the dogs, and his severed finger. They call it glassing, I think. Plus that UK corrupt Court . There's even PERJURY there. Everyone is not equal under the law. This is a clear example.
Also, AH recorded many things to use against Johnny w/o his knowledge. Very sad, string of events, especially for JD who is a kind soul who really did try to help her and her famiky & friends. Can't help wonder if she conspired with his business managers.
Thank you so much for this video. It’s a perfect distillation of the end of their marriage and why Johnny stayed so long with her and why he made his decision to finally leave. Really nice job.
He probably got tired of the smell of garbage in bed….I’d leave too. Garbage stinks.
Gosh you do have such a fantastic voice for narration. It is so calming and soothing and you have a lovely lilt and tone of speech. I have sensory processing disorder and voices are important to me. Some people I can not listen to and others I can, and you (and Mr Depp) I can listen to.
I'm not surprised even abused women and men , did not side with Amber after seeing her actions in court , she described every thing they went through while working with them and made it her own , she faked her crying , and stood there looking at everyone with contempt even making jokes with her attorney .she was so rude to Camille , and would not face her when answering her questions .just talking to the juries ,even saying yes I'll do it again if he touches my sister which she's got no feeling towards . Poor Johnny is a slow talker and she kept running her mouth like a windmill with a determent attitude . No wonder she lost . Johnny is safe from her clutches and she can't stand not being in charge of him anymore . Sorry to all those who were abused in their lives , and hope they escaped their bad treatment and sorted their lives for the better .
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At 10:14. Dr Curry nails it. She assumed Johnny's life. His money and fame is what she wanted from him. When he lost his 650 million dollars it was too much for her. Everything about her was about her loosing his money. She couldn't live with out it and why she wouldn't leave him. It's always been about fame and money.
I find it so sad that she can't see that alot of his misfortune started when she supplanted into his life. Excessive spending, increasing use of drugs, the decrease in ability to make decisions due to clouding from problems with her, with drugs, with his mother...all leading to the loss of 650 mill because his business manager took advantage. Then because she sees that the money is no longer a bottomless pit and because he won't tolerate the abuse any longer, she decides to lash out. It's infuriating that she can't see the connection of her abuse and his downward spiral.
This question is easy. JD finally left AH because she drove him crackers! A person can only take so much before their body starts to shut down. I believe JD was on the verge of a serious nervous breakdown, so he had to get himself free.
I forgot about Dr. Curry's testimony because so much was happening during the trial and aftermath. I feel _extremely_ sorry for Johnny for everything he went through and for not believing him at first. 😢 I even feel a bit sorry for Amber because she needs a lot of help and her supporters are just enabling her. They care more about what she represents than her as a individual and they either don't know it or don't care at all. But that's where my sympathy ends because she put Kate James and (allegedly) Whitney through a nightmare too.
Congrats on the sponsorship! Thanks for putting so much into your videos. Hopefully, getting a good look at people or relationships that have gone poorly will help us recognize signs in our own lives that require action rather than just a "deal with it later" mindset.
You can even see it with the way she dealt with the Australia stuff. Everyone had started to move on, and you'd think she'd want to let it go and hope it ended up being brushed under the carpet rather than risk further charges or a permanent ban from a country she might need to film in for Aquaman. Instead it almost seemed like ages after the whole Pistol and Boo thing, out of the blue she's like "hang on, don't you dare forget me random minister from Australia who annoyed me that time. I'm going to deliberately provoke you again by naming my dog after you and then posting it all over insta. That'll show you!" I think she thought she was being witty and getting her own back, but most people in Aus just saw it as a sad cry for attention including the minister she was trying to provoke. It did nothing for her reputation over here at all. More people seemed to be laughing at her attempts to be insulting (rather than with her as she probably expected), and alernatively no one really got angry or upset by her "insult" (mostly just bemused or generally annoyed at her attitude.) It's almost like any attention is better than none, regardless of how negatively the potential is to affect her in the long run. She can't let anything go or accept that she did the wrong thing, even if it would be the best course of action she could take under the circumstances if she thought about it rationally. If the charges do get bought up again (which is possible, I think there's a few people in parliment that have been waiting on the other trial to finish and wondering if it's worth the trouble pushing this case through or not), it'll likely be labeled "unfair"by her, rather than "consequences of actions taken."
Excellent. I always look forward to your submissions. Thank you.
Dr Curry was proved right when the defendant testified. The jury saw for themselves how right she is.
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This is exactly the kind of crap my old roommate put me through during and after college. Now I wonder if she had BPD.