Cedar Point Screwed Canada's Wonderland | How Canada Got Stuck with Flight Deck
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- Once upon a time, Canada's Wonderland was supposed to receive a B&M invert. But Cedar Point screwed them over and Canada's Wonderland get stuck with one of the worst Vekoma SLCs instead? Watch this video to learn the whole story and also hear my thoughts on Flight Deck, one of the worst roller coasters I have ever ridden.
Video Credits
Cedar Point Aerial (Ranger Bayn Drones)- • Cedar Point Island fro...
Canada's Wonderland Off-Ride (Ohio Valley Coasters)- • Video
Batman the Ride Opening (Six Flags Great America)- • Batman: The Ride- Open...
Ninja Off-Ride (Airtime Thrills)- • Ninja at Six Flags Mag...
Flight Deck POV (California's Great America)- • Take a Virtual Ride on...
Flight Deck Off-Ride (Craze Coaster Enthusiast)- • Video
Batman the Ride Magic Mountain (Airtime Thrills)- • Batman The Ride at Six...
Nemesis Aerial (Alton Towers)- • Nemesis Like You've Ne...
Raptor Commercial (Cedar Point)- • Raptor Commercial 1994
Raptor POV (Cedar Point)- • Raptor - Official POV
El Condor POV (Mojtaba Shadman Rad)- • El Condor Roller Coast...
B&M Plant (Ohio Valley Coasters)- • Video
Flight Deck POV (Canada's Wonderland)- • Official POV - Flight ...
Vortex POV (Canada's Wonderland)- • Official POV - Vortex ...
Time Warp POV (Canada's Wonderland)- • Official POV - Time Wa...
Flight Deck Off-Ride (Amusement Insiders)- • Canada's Wonderlands F...
Behemoth POV (Canada's Wonderland)-
• Official POV - Behemot...
Yukon Striker POV (Canada's Wonderland)- • Official POV - Yukon S...
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I believe Raptor not only impacted Canada's Wonderland, but Kings Island as well. Banshee opened 20 years after Raptor opened. At least KI didn't make the same mistake and purchase a Vekoma SLC.
Agreed! At least Kings Island went for Flight of Fear around that time and later Invertigo.
Canada's Wonderland is the kid everyone picked on in school but now everyone wants to date with their recent additions
True!
Kings Island Is A Better Example Of That
I had heard of the exclusivity agreement in coaster enthusiast circles, but it's interesting to hear it was park confirmed and not just an urban legend. As good as it'd be to replace Flight Deck's trains with vest restraints, I'd also be okay with tearing it and Time Warp down and replacing them both with a better coaster, or a Tim Hortons, or literally anything else.
Yeah I was surprised the park confirmed it at an enthusiast event. This park has so many bad coasters currently. It really is unbelievable.
Maybe it will be nice to have at least 1 INTAMIN!@@CanobieCoaster
@@CanobieCoaster They removed sky rider and replaced it with Yukon, they did a really good job. Yukons an amazing ride, and now there making another boost coaster in 2025.
I liked how you made this video! I'm so grateful I ended up with a fantastic invert at my home park, but I feel for Canada's Wonderland because I hear nothing but the worst about Flight Deck. Oh yeah btw I'm glad Top Gun at Carowinds got renamed to Afterburn instead of Flight Deck, I like Afterburn so much better. Anyway, I'm glad cedar fair acquired the Paramount parks in 2006 and have been doing great in "un-paramounting" the parks. Canada's Wonderland has really made great strides in the past decade and I can't wait for what their future holds. Hopefully we see Time Warp removed, Flight Deck at least refurbished with the better restraints and also I'm sure we'll see some more great coasters in the near future!
My top wish list for them would be a hybrid conversion of one of their woodies, but I've heard RMC doesn't have an office in Canada. Maybe GCI can try their hybrid concept one day?
@@CanobieCoaster Canadian mine buster I hope
@@alexthegamer8324 minebuster is being removed
@@CanobieCoaster From what I've heard, both Canada's Wonderland and La Ronde have contracts for RMCs for the 2025 and 2026 seasons respectively. This was as of two years ago, so the pandemic could have changed everything.
I know this is old, but, if Cedar Fair would invest in the new track and trains for these SLC'S, they would be super fun like the one at Morey's Piers.
I agree that would help immensely.
I strongly suspect that Busch Gardens also signed an exclusively deal with B&M once Alpengeist opened. It was leaked that KD would’ve gotten their own Top Gun, but I suspect that similar circumstances forced them to another manufacturer, leading to the development of Volcano the Blast Coaster
I wouldn't be surprised.
How to fix Canada’s Wonderland
1. Tear out Flight Deck and Time Warp, and replace them with either a B&M flyer or a B&M invert
2. Since the park has two terrible wooden coasters, RMC one and replace the other with a modern woodie either from GCI or the Gravity Group
3. Tear out Dragon Fyre and replace it with either a Mack or Vekoma multi launch. There might be some space limitations, so plans should be made accordingly.
4. Tear out the Vekoma boomerang and clear out some of the surrounding land to make way for a Gerstlauer infinity coaster, similar to what Knott’s did with Hangtime
If really is impressive how many bad coasters this park has.
I predict Dragon Fyre is going to be removed next and replaced with a Mack Multi launch
Someone 234 please tell me you have a source that backs this up. I really want it to be true
@@augustusofprimaporta3721 I'm actually just predicting, sorry
All for the low price of 100 million dollars!
Going back to this video, i heard a rumour that originally B&M didnt approve leviathan because they didnt want to build a giga, but since they declined the invert due to raptor they felt like they owed it to them, so if flight deck was an invert, Levi may have never been a thing, same with fury and orion, so i was salty about cedar point doing that, now I'm glad
That would be a nice ending if that's what happened.
Really nice video! Would love to see more like it. Never really heard of any rumors of exclusivity contracts, for me it's a lot more interesting looking at the history of parks and their additions than talking about ride technology or block systems.
I agree it's definitely cool to look at how certain ride additions came to be (or not to be). But I also do enjoy the technical videos since I'm an engineer, but I haven't worked at a park so I don't have that type of info.
Thank you for this video, Canada’s Wonderland is my home park and I knew we got screwed out of a B & M invert somehow. I’ve had a hard time finding info in this subject so again, thanks!!
No problem!
It’s kind of funny because Kings Island and Canada’s wonderland couldn’t receive an invert due to the non compete, but Carowinds did get a Top Gun themed invert and benefited mightily from it. It makes me wonder how things would have gone had Canada’s Wonderland not gone the SLC route. I imagine they’d be similar to Kings Island in terms of lineup, where they don’t have a bad coaster in the park. As it stands, I think Carowinds lineup is better. Fury tops Leviathan, and while I’d say Behemoth is better than Intimidator, CW does not have anything like Afterburn or Copperhead Strike. In addition to this, it’s very clear that Cedar Fair has plans for Carowinds still. I imagine theming will continue to get better there and I foresee another major attraction or two being added in the near future to truly complete its lineup and make it Cedar Fairs premier park in the Southeast.
I would have preferred pretty much any other model to the SLC so it would have been interesting.
Did you just say, "Voh-gan, Ontario?" Vaughan is pronounced Von.
Whoops, thanks for letting me know for future videos.
@@CanobieCoaster It's not a big deal, though, I just thought it was funny 😂
And its spelled " Vaughan" lol
@@michaelpiller1513 Oh yeah LMAO, just realised the mistake
@@jamesnugent2213 still pronounced "von" though.
I was a teenager in the 90s in Toronto, and would go to Wonderland regularly with friends. I fondly remember Top Gun honestly, it was a very intense experience, and you can only do it once or twice per visit, but that was part of the attraction.
I wish it was smoother.
Also a 90s teenager, and Top Gun was theeeee ride to hit up every visit. Maybe we were too young to notice how terrible the headbanging was, or maybe it wasn't so rough in its first few years.
A B&M Invert would be very nice here
Or any major looper!
They likely sent Volcano to Kings Dominion because of another exclusivity deal they had after Alpengheist, choosing to go with an Intamin launched invert because it was an invert like the other Paramount parks had while being so different from Alpengheist that the locals wouldn’t compare them. The reason Canada’s Wonderland got stuck with an SLC was because there wasn’t a good invert within the same market that would make the GP realise how bad Flight Deck is. While there is shared market with La Ronde which has a Batman clone, that didn’t open until 2002 so again, no good invert in the same market. And if I had to guess, this exclusivity deal was targeted at Kings Island since they do share the central Ohio market, which is why they never got an invert before Cedar Fair owned it and would wave the agreement. Ever wonder why they never got a B&M under Paramount, as the flagship park just minutes from Clarmont so it would be less expensive?
I agree the deal was likely targeted towards Geauga Lake and Kings Island, but if the miles also hit Canada's Wonderland, they had a right to enforce it.
@@CanobieCoaster Yes. My point was more about how Paramount still chose an SLC over a good alternative with Intamin though, even if they had to wait at most 3 years for an Intamin invert it certainly would have been worth it from our perspective as enthusiasts.
Maybe Cedar Fair should remove Flight Deck and put in a B&M invert. Since they own Wonderland it should not matter now. B&M had built 3 coasters already there and they are the best coasters in the park by far
I wish they would.
Canda’s Wonderland is my home park. I’m a massive amateur coaster enthusiast and have had a seasons pass for years now. Flight Deck/Top Gun has always felt like such a valuable waste of space, like after seeing other Amusement Park’s coaster line up it felt like there could’ve been so many better rides that could’ve gone there instead.
This video just made that pain 100x worse …..
I really hope they can get a good, inversion based coaster in the future.
Don't be dissing my #1 Top Gun (now Flight Deck)! Have loved this coaster for 20 years, and, to be honest, it is my favourite coaster ever. I don't need super drops like Behemoth, because while they're scary, I don't find them thrilling scary, I just find them unpleasant. I love the tight corkscrews of Flight Deck. My only complaint is that it's really short, but at 45-ish seconds (after the climb is done) it's not that much shorter than most coasters. Absolutely love this coaster, and I love that as new coasters are added, and "the only good coaster has to have a 90 degree drop from 5000 feet up" people go away so I can ride again and again. TOP GUN FOR LIFE!
I'm glad you enjoy it but I find it too rough.
I wonder along with the vest restraints, if the cars could be modified to have spring loaded wheels. However, I think that both Flight Deck and Time Warp should be torn down and replaced with dueling B+M inverted and flying coasters.
New restraints are the biggest thing. If they really wanted to improve the ride, they could do what Morey's Piers did with Great Nor'Easter and retrack it.
in VOGGIN Ontario? 4:14 That would be pronounced VONN...(Vaughan = VONN)...I couldn't stop laughing...!!!!
I learned from my mistake on future videos.
I rode Flight Deck back when it was still Top Gun, in September 2001. The experience of it has really stuck with me -- I remember the lift hill, and that first drop where a truck was parked so it seemed like your legs would get chopped off lol (I noticed that Canada's Wonderland official POV includes a truck there). After that first drop, there's a start of a loop and then it's just a whole bunch of head banging until you're jarringly stopped at the pre-station brakes with a giant headache. I imagine it's only gotten worse over the last 20 years.
It's a shame these rides were never smooth.
“September 2001” I’m sorry
Great detailed video! I really enjoyed watching this!
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@CanobieCoaster Thanks!
In terms of tolerance, Canobie Coaster would say:
Flight Deck is painful. Wilde Beast...
Is fun.
Did not know about any of this. But they really should have gotten a sitdown
Anything but the SLC would have been better.
I'm still hoping Canada's Wonderland will get their Invert soon, it'll be a perfect fit for the park imo.
Any good looper would work for them.
Maybe they'll get a real bad ass floorless coaster like Medusa.
I LOVE wonderland. But pass up top flight and time warp every visit. It’s never to late for a B&M invert though, maybe down the road.
I don't see a reason for me to ever reride this unless it gets new trains.
Between the B&M inverts and the Vekoma SLCs built and opened in the world during the 1990s and early 2000s, many said:
"Whereas the B&M inverts, like the Batman clones, opened to acclaimed, the Vekoma SLCs opened to negative".
Those two were the receptions about the rides from most guests and enthusiasts.
What are the differences between "acclaimed" and "negative"?
"Acclaimed" was the reception gotten that when a coaster opened, most guests and enthusiasts liked, praised, or loved the ride, and "negative" was the reception gotten that when a coaster opened, most guests and enthusiasts...
Dislike
Imagine a inverted coaster with the same layout as the SLCs, but being a B&M, with B&M track and trains
That has always intrigued me.
With the death of Kingswood Music Theatre, I would love to see Flight Deck and Time Warp removed, along with the amphitheater, opening a massive plot of land for something exciting, and potentially ground breaking, which of course I can see Cedar Fair spending money on since CW is the highest attended seasonal park in North America. I honestly have no idea of exactly what I would want to see there, but whatever it is, would be worth the loss of 2 coasters.
The only issue is that the park has been closed for one year already and still shows no signs of opening back up, so that may impact future investments.
@@CanobieCoaster I agree but we do have light for reopening. They open in phase 2, when Ontario reaches 65% first shot and 20% second shot of vaccines. As of today, we are at 65% of first shot and are opening second dose appointments. I gave almost no doubts (unless vaccine shipments completely tank) that the park will be opening for Canada Day. Investments will be on hold for a few years, especially with Yukon Striker only getting 1 season of operation. But I can see those attractions being removed. 5-6 years would be an ideal timeline. I also wouldn’t be surprised to see more kickass flat rides being added to our already world class ass kicking lineup of flats.
@@905Metalhead Maybe if they get RMC to have a company in Canada to manufacture their tracks, I can see them RMC wilde Beast because it will cost a lot less than a B&M or a Mack Multi Launch
The only SLC I've been on is Riddler at SFNE. It was quite rough, and although there was no headbanging, I got stapled so hard that I could feel the restraint cutting off the circulation in my legs. I think the restraint tightened during the ride. I still thought it was a decent, and very intense ride, and I'd ride it again on future trips. As for Flight Deck, I think both it and the adjacent Time Warp should be torn down and replaced with either a B&M flyer, or some type of launch coaster.
Flight Deck bare minimum could use the vest restraints.
Dragon fyre isn’t rough and minebuster is rough but its absolutely incredible
Dragon Fyre is ok if your head is above the OSTR. Minebuster up front is fine, but it's bad elsewhere.
In model installations built between 1990s and 2000s, Ednör at La Ronde is a Vekoma SLC and Boomerang at Six Flags Fiesta Texas is a Vekoma Boomerang, and the SLC uses the usual SLC trains while the Boomerang uses the usual Vekoma train. Both use over the shoulder restraints. I think some enthusiasts prefer the SLC to the Boomerang and other prefer the Boomerang to the SLC. The Boomerang repeats a course backwards.
I like the smooth ones.
Canada's Wonderland is strange.
You got the Big 3 (Behemoth, Leviathan and Yukon Striker) and a bunch of stinkers (Flight Deck, Time Warp, Wild Beast, Mine buster)
Vortex is somewhere in between the great and clunkers.
It’s such a shame, I don’t blame the SLC. It just needs a huge update. The layout is crazy fun! Just the roughness.
I would love to see it get new trains like some other SLCs have gotten.
I still love this coaster. Yes it is a little rough but the thrill of getting taken in every direction one after the other is fantastic especially since there is nothing else similar in the park. Wish it was smooth.
It is different than the park's other rides.
wha?
Just rode it today, absolutely awful and that’s coming from someone who doesn’t mind roughness too much. It was the worst SLC I’ve been on by far.
It's brutal.
@@CanobieCoaster it really is, although I did enjoy Time Warp surprisingly. Still wouldn’t be mad if they removed both of those coasters for a better coaster.
Once again, all they have to do is replace the current restraints with the same ones found on Fly The Great Nor' Easter at Morey's Piers and then you've got a perfectly smooth coaster. I don't understand why they (or why other parks like La Ronde, Six Flags Discovery Kingdom, Wild Adventures, Magic Springs, etc.) still haven't done that.🤔
Mitchell Ries well, I've heard riddler at SFNE is still rough. I'll be riding it this year so I'll see. Nor'easter got more work done then just the new trains. It also was completely retracked, and Track profiling was fixed.
Ill probably ride Firewhip at Beto Carrero in Brazil soon with the vest restraints to see how good it is compared to InFusion with the old OTSRs. Ill probably ride it in 2021
British Thrillseeker cool. I wish Batman and robin the chiller actually opened at that park
@@invertedthrills144 same, man
I agree the vest restraints eliminate the pain. Some of them still track poorly, but it's a big difference when you aren't hitting your head.
They were known from day one for being notoriously...
A) smooth
B) rough
Canobie Coaster, what about them with the bulky over the shoulder restraints, enjoyable, tolerable, bearable, or painful?
B and painful
I believe Kings Dominion got Volcano and I305 because the same clause that Busch Gardens had with Apollo and alpengiesf
Makes sense.
Yeah they’re not allowed to use the same model in the two parks
Yeah flight deck does look pretty brutal which is why I've tried everything at wonderland except for flight deck and time warp
Most people hate Time Warp, but I don't mind it.
B&M asked Paramount's Canada's Wonderland to build another coaster model such as a sit down or a stand up coaster, but when they still wanted an inverted coaster also themed to Top Gun, they had another option, and it was a good one or wasn't a good one?
The SLC was a rough mess.
What inverted coaster is more intense for you, Vampire at La Ronde or Vampire at Walibi Belgium? One is a B&M Batman invert and the other is a Vekoma SLC, and both still use over the shoulder restraints
The B&M Vampire is more intense.
You know I can see why alot of people say flight deck has bad tracking it has too many twisted elements
Plenty of rides do twists smoothly. This one does not.
Cedar Fair did the same thing in 2015.
Wonderland was supposed to get Yukon Striker that year, instead, based on low attendance #'s at Cedar Point they got Valravn in 2015 and Wonderland's Yukon Striker was delayed until 2019.
This is fact.
Sidenote:
I enjoy Flight Deck, just need to know how to ride it, use the neck muscles and lean your head forward throughout the ride LOL :)
At least Canada got the better ride with Yukon.
Still running with the old trains, I think Flight Deck at Canada's Wonderland looks thrilling.
It looks thrilling for sure.
In the 1990s, many B&M invert clones and Vekoma standard SLC clones were built. Did all originally open to acclaimed reception,
between the B&M inverts and the 1990s Vekoma SLCs?
The SLCs were not particularly well liked.
At 4:14, I just wanted to say you pronounced Vaughn wrong. The g is silent.
I realize that now.
@@CanobieCoaster oh I don’t mean to say it in a hurtful way, just a pointer.
honestly, i hate flight deck bc i have lost my clear glasses for 2 hours(the employees saved my life by finding it) and started bleeding bc i hit my head so much on the strap thingys
Ouch!
Wow that sucked for CW
At least they got rewarded years later.
@@CanobieCoaster i also wonder if thats why KI didnt add a B&M invert until 2014
The worst was the top gun theme playing on loop while you’re in line for 2 hours
I love that theme, so I wouldn't mind.
To ride again, what do you think about those two coasters at Canada's Wonderland, Flight Deck and Wilde Beast? Do you think they are rough?
Canobie Coaster would say:
Flight Deck is...
Wilde Beast is...
Flight Deck is awful. Wilde Beast is enioyable for me.
Wait, did you pronounce Vaughn as "Vawg-han"? It's "V-awn". Rhymes with a baby deer, fawn.
I've corrected that in future videos.
You know I think the perfect way to have a somewhat comfortable experience on flight deck at least until it gets the new vekoma vest restraints is to pull your restraint all the way down that you won't get as much headbanging as you'd expect
I jam my head to one side.
Nice video! I had no idea this actually was a thing
Thanks!
4:11 You read the city name (Vaughan) like it's spelled. Here in Ontario, we pronounce it as "Von" or "Vawn" - the GH is silent.
Yes, back in '95, Top Gun was our first inverted coaster and within the first year, they had a do recalls and modifications, because the oversized shoulder restraints injured so many passengers temples (both sides of the heads) because the ride is NEVER smooth like Vortex, Behemoth, and Leviathan.
Whoops, I will fix that in future videos.
Wild beast and minebuster are both damn good wooden coasters.
I think they're ok to decent up front, but anywhere else they are brutal.
I was there today and one of the bolts fell off of flight deck and they closed the ride. I'm sad I couldn't ride it :(
Yikes!
I’m new to coasters, I liked Vortex but found it pretty damn strong on the vertical forces and I found it quite intense, how would flight deck compare?
Flight Deck is much rougher and inversion based.
According to wikipedia, the exclusivity radius was 200 miles, and canada's wonderland is 198 miles away from cedar point, just two miles short 😭
Ouch!
0:27 WHAT. I consider it to be one the best coasters I have been on. So fun.
I'm not a fan of Flight Deck.
@@CanobieCoaster :( Too bad. What about it don't you like by the way? Is it that it causes pain in the neck/back? Or other things too?
Ah, the famous Canada's Wonderland Top Gun neck issues. When it first opened the harness was just hard yellow foam. You had to work to keep your head still. I remember seeing a few neck braces come out the exit until they replaced them.
But God I loved that ride.
If it is so good @bruce Wayne, why do I come off the ride with a migraine every single time?
@@Coaster_Junction you do, I don't 🤷♂️
I think flight deck should've been a vekoma flying Dutchman coaster instead of an slc
That would have been better, but I don't think Vekoma had it ready when this was made.
Take a shot every time he says, "Batman: The Ride."
Lol
We're gonna have to do what Hersheypark enthusiasts did for Wildcat's Revenge - constantly bully Canada's Wonderland into replacing the ride with a B&M invert or Vekoma STC (NOT SLC)
Maybe it'll work someday!
You know maybe they can add some padding to silver streak to make it more comfortable cause clearly the reason why some people say it's a bit rough is because it has metal seats
I wish they could do that.
Between the B&M inverts and the Vekoma SLCs, with the over the shoulder restraints, what are the differences between smooth, intense, and rough?
The SLCs are mostly rough while the B&Ms are smooth.
I remember riding Top Gun as a kid, yes very rough head banging :/
It's a painful one.
I like Vekoma SLCs and some people also liked the SLCs with the traditional trains.
Which Vekoma SLC with the traditional trains did you dislike more, Ednör L' Attaque at La Ronde, Vampire at Walibi Belgium, Mind Eraser at Darien Lake, or Flight Deck at Canada's Wonderland?
All are bad. Probably Flight Deck.
When was the first inverted coaster built?
A) 1990
B) 1991
C) 1992
D) 1993
92
Always smile when I see all the Top Gun / Flight Deck hate. Fun ride, going on ever since installed. Front row, arms up, a blast!! Everyone wants smooth sofa surfers these days.
This one is too rough.
Canobie Coaster said in this video:
El Condor was the first of Vekoma's infamous suspended looping coasters or SLCs. Why did you say "infamous"?
They're well known for the wrong reason.
When was the first rough inverted coaster built?
A) 1993
B) 1994
C) 1995
D) 1996
94
Of the Vekoma SLCs built between 1994 and the 2000s, when all they opened, were none painful?
Most of those were jerky.
In 2015 and 2017, and 2022, more Vekoma SLCs were built and/or relocated, with vest trains
They're becoming more common.
What plane maneuver did the Vekoma SLC simulate, and what plane maneuver did the B&M invert simulate?
Immelmann
I think it's ridiculous what cedar point did if I was working for wonderland I would've definitely gotten the b&m invert instead of an slc
I wish they got the B&M too.
It's funny because I used to run around the lineup to ride dragon fyre over and over again. I loved the stand up roller coaster I loved the bat I loved all these rides you say are rough lmao maybe I like it rough.
I was a daredevil type kid though.
I also bet these rides were way smoother back in 1996 than today.
The newer rides run circles over the old ones in terms of smoothness.
The Vekoma SLC felt like a plane crash, while the B&M invert...
is smooth
The link is savfk, but what I was asking you is which music and song is this exactly?
If the exact song is not listed, sorry. I followed the attribution guidelines the author set forth.
I didn’t think B&M started using spring loaded wheels until some time after they built Oblivion at Alton Towers in 1998. It’s the reason that Oblivion isn’t a perfect vertical drop. Because they couldn’t figure out how to keep the running wheels snug against the track. So I don’t believe that the inverts built before this time have spring loaded wheel assemblies. I also never found any of the TOGO stand ups in North America to ever be rough or intolerable. Just kind of boring.
I enjoyed the Togo stand-ups. They had some bizarre airtime.
So Interesting! Thanks for the history lesson
You're welcome.
I don't even know why vekoma makes those type of restraints that flight deck has when they know it can cause head banging
They thankfully don't use them anymore.
Canobie coaster in case you don't know basically flight deck replaced Zumba flume Canada's Wonderlands old log flume ride which you might think was a big mistake
I would have preferred the flume.
The SLCs with the traditional trains are thrilling
All SLCs are intense. Many just hurt.
bruh vekoma SLCs would probably be so fun and have such good layouts if vekoma was actually a good company at the time.
The new ones are good.
I don’t know why I thought riding this would be fun or enjoyable on my latest trip. Nostalgia, maybe, as I remember going with my mom and riding it when it was still Top Gun. That being said, I did not remember how awful it truly is. Never again.
It's bad.
@@CanobieCoaster I thought my earrings were either going to rip out or pierce another hole. Truly an awful, jarring ride. Not sure why they keep it tbh.
The music fits with the video. What I was asking you was the title and the artist?
The link to the music is in the description.
I haven't ridden any SLCs yet. I have ridden Goudurix and thought it was enjoyable but a little rough. Are those classic SLCs that bad??
I actually liked Goudurix, but I know I'm in the minority.
@@CanobieCoaster I'm also in the minority 😜. Thought it was way better than Avengers Assemble: Flight Force which was god awful during my latest ride: constant headbanging and an annoying vibration...
Interesting story. I didn't know that. I rode it when it was Top Gun. Think I remember the head banging but I kept riding it. Definitely need to improve the restraints. I think the one used on Yukon Striker is comfortable. When the park opens in April.ill ride Flight Deck just for kicks.
Yukon Striker is way better.
I think some people consider Wild Beast a tolerable wooden coaster
I do, but many do not.
My trick with tip gun aka flight deck is to press your head to one side firmly against the shoulder restraints, without doing that your head bounces around like a ping pong ball, it’s still one of my favourite rides tho.
I've done that, but it still isn't pleasant.
You know skyrider was definitely my least favorite roller coaster I know some people are gonna disagree with me here but it's because 1 it was a stand up roller coaster and 2 on skyrider you didn't really feel secure because it had no shoulder harnesses only some type of restraints that goes in front of your legs
I felt secure on it. Only part I didn't like on Skyrider was that brutal trick track.
Why do you like the smooth inverted coasters and not the rough ones?
Smooth ones are comfortable.
Canobie coaster I have a question do you think Yukon striker should've replaced flight deck instead of skyrider
I get why they removed Skyrider. Vekoma still supports Flight Deck.
Canobie Coaster said:
It looks thrilling for sure.
And to ride?
It is thrilling to ride as well.
Imagine watching POVs of two coasters at Canada's Wonderland in Flight Deck and Wilde Beast. To ride, what would you think? I think many people found the two coasters to be rough. And you?
I dislike Flight Deck. Wilde Beast is fine.
You know hopefully flight deck will receive the new vekoma vest restraints soon that way it'll be much smoother like I can see why some people say flight deck is really painful because the restraints are made of hard foam and I can see how that can be an issue
I hope it gets new trains.
It's good that they have Yukon striker cause like the first b&m I wanted to go on was Behemoth but I was too chicken to go on it so Yukon striker will be perfect as my first b&m
Yukon Striker is wonderful.
I was asking you about Flight Deck at Canada's Wonderland, do you think it looks thrilling or it is thrilling to ride again?
It looks and is thrilling.
I rode top gun it was terrifying as a kid... I avoided it because I was a kid. When I did ride it, it was awesome. Then again I only rode it once and I was like 12. The 3 hour lineup kept me away.
I have no intentions of riding this again.
@@CanobieCoaster I haven't been on it in like 25 years despite living an hour away most of my life. It has probably gotten way rougher since the 90's
Vampire at walibi belgium is also a SLC with the traditional trains
Yes