Joker 2 Director Todd Phillips on Joaquin Phoenix & Why Only Select Scenes Are Full Frame IMAX
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- Опубликовано: 24 дек 2024
- In 2019, Joker did to Hollywood what the Joker does to Batman: reigned chaos. The film shocked us with its gallows humor and violence. It flipped the box office on its head with the downbeat, grungy fable taking in hundreds of millions of dollars as an R-rated, stand-alone comic-book film - with no hero. After all was said and told, the film was nominated for a slew of Oscars and took home two, one for score, and the other for Joaquin Phoenix's iconic performance. Now, Academy Award-nominated writer and director Todd Phillips is back with Phoenix (and tons of surprises) for the next chapter of Arthur Fleck's life story, Joker: Folie à Deux.
Joker: Folie à Deux arrives two years after the events of Joker. Now a patient at Arkham State Hospital, Arthur Fleck (Phoenix) falls in love with fellow inmate Harleen Quinzel (played by Lady Gaga). The two experience life as a maniacal musical as Arthur's followers build a movement to free him.
Before the film's official theatrical release, Phillips sat down with Collider's Steve Weintraub to discuss Joker: Folie à Deux, why editing Phoenix is an absolute dream, his brotherly relationship with cinematographer Lawrence Sher, and why the sequel only has select scenes in full frame IMAX. You can watch the conversation in the video above or read the transcript below.
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0:15 Stop lying to yourself bro
Apologize to the fanbase and cast Todd Phillips.
"Yeah I believe you"
Two very erm... genuine... people 🙄
😅😅😂😂😂 i caught that too
Did the interviewer actually watch the movie? Or is he not a comic book fan.....enough of the kissing ass just ask questions dude
For real Dude won't ask real questions
Yeah because he wants to have good relationship with these high profile people and keep getting invites for these interviews
It's their job to kiss A. They're more there to promote the movie, not to be honest and ask questions
Yeah totally true. I guess it was my naievity commenting!
well to be fair the movie was very divisive and boundary pushing, the response is proof of that. at face value money doesnt matter, what matters is the impact of the art, lets see in 10 years how these two films will be held at the standards they are.
Yes, they forced Todd Phillips with 20 million dollars to give us the finger.
This movie is like if you made a spiderman movie, but before peter parker becomes spiderman , and he's just a dude going to school.
Perfect resemblance
That's right.
And he isn’t even spider-man at the end
@@Scyphi 😭
This is an Elseworlds story. Arguably Miles Morales is not the real Spider-Man, but his movie 'Into the Spider-Verse' is up there with 'Spider-Man 2' for the greatest Spider-Man movies of all time.
This man is more of a clown than the joker how fitting
Todd seemed a little, not in a good mood, in this one. Wich is fine, he has to do a lot of interviews.
probably because he knows this movie is a pile of folie a doodoo
The early reviews are out and they are not great. That's why he is unhappy.
Because the person interviewing him are asking brainless questions
That is called shame lol
@@BlackJackH_eee No need for shame. Joker sequel is fantastic just like the first one. You’re just not smart enough to appreciate it
He must be laughing his ass of at anyone talking it seriously.
Dude went full David Gordon Green mode
Dudes a hack like David Gordon Greene
He ruined something with potential and gave us a bunch of crap.
Screw you Todd.
You don't know what "hack" means
Todd Phillips should have stuck with GG Allin documentaries. That was his best film
He said we challenge each other to make a good story and there is no Story! A random person can make that script!
There is plenty of story. You’re just not smart enough to identify it
This is the movie for people with high IQ. Lower IQ people stick to farting movies etc.
Right?!!!! @@ManifestScrutiny
@@ManifestScrutinyit’s funny how fans of the original don’t understand this movie is about them not understand the point of the first.
@@ManifestScrutiny Well he is right. It's not a bad movie on it's own just it shouldn't been Joker. Joker can't deny his identity. He can't go back.
Sucha missed opportunity to have his Joker persona as his real split personality, where he's battling with his own self for control. The ending could've been him Killing his Arthur personality and fully embracing his Joker persona. Esp after Harley Dumps him. Ruined the entire purpose of the first Joker
"And then in Joker 3 Robert Pattinson's Batman fights Joaquin Phoenix's Joker. And then in Joker 4 we use deaging on Jack Nicholson and use a younger actor for Heath Ledger like they did for Tarkin in Rogue One. Then we can make a live-action adaptation of the Batman: Three Jokers story." 🤪
I definitely can see how that would be a way more satisfying finale, but I think that goes against the point of what Todd Phillips was ultimately trying to say. That would've been a very iconic, classic Joker climax, which would be the antithesis of the film's deconstruction. Instead, Phillips and Phoenix seem to have wanted to create both a broader statement on the symbolism of The Joker character in society, and a more singular character study on the man behind the makeup. So instead of a gratifying final act in which Joker takes over Arthur, we get a moment of clarity in which Arthur realizes that The Joker was a coping mechanism for his trauma and is only leading to more pain, for the people around him and himself. He tries to do the right thing, in some way finding redemption for his sins, but still there is penance and he is destroyed for it, paving the way for more evil in his wake.
It's s movie about a tragedy; nothing to glorify, and the director showed it
I have a feeling that Todd didn't want to make a sequel, but they forced him to do it as making a sequel wasn't necessary getting to know the first Joker succeeded so well.
Nobody 'forces' a guy worth millions and millions. He accepted because he's a gutless hack (case in point: two Hangover sequels). Just another greedy prick. Simple as that.
It was Joaquin's idea. He had a dream of Joker singing and dancing.
I think I remember at one point Joaquin Said he doesn't do sequels, this was probably a result of peer pressure from Hollywood higher ups. This was probably made to prove a point, or to get them off his A about it
The hangover could have been a great one off too but then it got an unnecessary sequel …. Just like joker
Hangover 2 was good the third one was alright
@@MrClean21. Nah , the 3 is bad
The Hangover 1 and 2 are 💎💎
Every interview I've watched so far about this Arthur movie makes me fearful for the future which is weird because after Joker 1 I could see the future of genre and it looked beautiful.
He think he’s a Auteur director lol
You're a hater.
Glazing the director of the worst movie ever made, that was literally created just to tell people that he hates them is literally unbelievable but I believe it
This movie doesn't really have anything to do about the Joker other than using the concept of it and exploiting its fruits. It should have been named Arthur Fleck instead who is just a dumb, naive and predictable character in comparison with the first one along with having ZERO confidence as well when wearing the Joker suit and makeup for lame reasons. And there's literally the decline of characters instead of development. The song and dream sequences aren't profound at all and yet ridicilious, corny, awkward and boring. The movie clearly expects the audience to be stupid considering the explanation and justification of the acts of the first one, which only worked in the first one because of the mystique, imagination and myth of its dark tone while being in an exciting pace unlike this one. A dull and boring buildup made it lose its glamour early on and Arthur's realtionship with Lee/Harley has no significance at the end and was just a waste of time and story... Nice way to ruin an intriguing character of Joker overall...
lol please tell me how the first first film told you Arthur fleck was a criminal mastermind 😂 the 2nd film shows you the same Arthur fleck and shows him facing the consequences of his actions under the persona of “joker”. He realizes the people don’t love Arthur fleck but the idea of the joker. Hell even the audience forgot about Arthur fleck which is probably why everyone is mad at the film. Which probably shows you where society is at when it comes to mental health. Although the one thing that I didn’t like was the Grape scene which kinda feels like he was forced into that realization.
@@danielmunguia8341maybe not a mastermind, but certainly an agent of chaos. he was unpredictable and angry, as opposed to being docile and pathetic in the sequel
What a great film! Loved it... Would love to listen to Todd commenting on his choices
Such a sophisticated way of describing the production behind a cash grab, lol. Todd Phillips said during the original Joker’s release that he planned this as a one-off movie that starts a “DC Black” label for Elseworlds stories. Looks like someone doesn’t know how to keep his own words… I call that a false auteur.
How was something this pretentious a cash grab???? Theres nothing safe about it!!!
@@firedrum71By "cash grab", what they mean is that the movie only exists because the first movie made over a billion dollars, not because the filmmakers just had a great idea for a sequel.
WB would've made this movie with or without him, you're really out of touch if you think that the director is the one who decides whether it's a standalone film when the studio owns the rights to the movies, characters, etc.
@@firedrum71Don't be so ridiculously naive.
Cash grab? This movie is opposite to that. If that was a cash grab he would direct another Heath Ledger Joker. But he didn't. It's an original story and I'm glad he didn't based it on anything.
Whoa the interview started out with backhanded compliments and then associated it with Megalopolis. Both flops 😂
The Movie Literally Exposed The Fan Base Brutally, Everyone Came Here For The Joker And Not Arthur Fleck 😂
the movie is called “The Jonkler” so🙄
Then probably..probably.....the movie shouldn't be called JOKER
I love the first film and i will watch 2nd one for Arthur as well, but the movie is called Joker, but the 2nd movie destroys any implication of him being Joker. He didn't even have to be the Joker in the comicbook way, but this movie just undermines what the first one has set up..
@@manojprabhakar9111 well, the title is a pretty big hint, that the joker himself is just one big and for a brief time shared, delusion
Well..... it is a Joker movie
Ask him.why he made this film knowing it was not up to it
Haven't seen anyone asking him one question: Why do you hate everyone on this planet who had enjoyed the story and the characters of the first movie?
He wanted to make a realistic movie. Well, there are people who get stabbed to death in prison. So it's realistic in that sense. But it's not about Joker then.
Yeah Joker 2 and Megalopolis. The Anti- Barbienheimer
This aged well 😂
People after Joker 2:
“Want to hear another joke, Fill-ips?”
Oh dear Todd....
They look happy in this hallow chamber.
Did the movie have the song "What the world needs now is love" from the teaser trailer?
@@1113robot ah okay that’s a disappointment. I know the movie is nothing compared to the original but is it still a good movie not comparing it to the original?
@@myhalloweenhaunts it is in the very beginning of the movie, during an animated prologue- nick cave sings it, as the voice, of the animated joker
In my honest opinion Joker 2 Folie a Deux is very underrated , I liked it ❤😢
maybe in the future they will give it their recognition [when? only time will tell]
Every interviewer is this way this guy also interviewed Matt reeves kissing butt is their job!
I LOVE ❤️ when studios get taken for millions of dollars 💸...
This is ALMOST as bad a BORDERLANDS 👌
Great film 👍🏻💯🃏
frosty is so cringe dude
Phenomenal film. Misunderstood by the internet weirdos and critics out there. Loved it!
Disgrace! Todd should apologize for this shit show. Classic example of a narcissistic director not giving a shit about the fans who pay for the box office ñ!
It’s not post too be a happy story and I can understand the film it’s all in his head and I can see this coexist in his world as a musicial none the f that bothers me I respect TODD Phelps as a writer and director and all the hate it’s getting is so stupid at the end of the day it’s a movie not real life
Funny how DC movies always get sabotaged.
Big Swings to the gut 0:45
Cheers todd i was struggling to sleep 20 mins into this i slept liked a baby just kiddin i stuck till the end wishing i fell asleep you pissed all over jokers character i dnt know what i watched but it definitely wasnt a joker movie
Dude is proud that he ruined his work with the first movie, using Joker 2 as a cash grab that crapped all over the first movie and the main character, and he's dipping with his money.
Relax dude. It’s a movie
@@johndeignan2668 NO!!! It’s more than just a movie…it’s life
@@mattgarciatx Yikes
I don't understand people that call this a "Cash grab". Doing a safe, predictable and unambiguous sequel would be a cash grab, this clearly isn't😂
He made 100 million off the first film. He wouldn't have had to make Joker 2 if he didn't want to do it
Absolutely loved the movie. Best movie of the year.
Not only year. It is The Best movie of the Century maybe Mankind ever witnessed. It better than Lord of the rings. Hope they achieve 3 billion milestone and 18 Oscars for this.
@@DanteDMC21 I was not being sarcastic, btw. I really loved the movie. It was a firm continuation of the narrative the first one set.
I love the movie as well
The movie is TRASH. You must be a beta gen z.
@@b.pack3 I‘m Alpha Omega GenX, sweetie.
Todd Phillips, I have lost all faith in you. The only way you will get my faith back is if you come out and say you did this as an FU to WB for pushing for a sequel.
Your majesty.
Big swings AND big MISSES!!!😅
Worst movie I’ve seen in 10 years
you really havent seen many movies have you?
You don't watch many movies
Dead pool wolverine was worse
Damn you really have seen no moves at all have you?
Best movie I’ve seen in 5 years
Here! Here!
Thank you Todd for making another awesome, original, powerful version of this tragic tale about poor Arthur.
Such a breath of fresh air.
I should have wrote the script for this! I have 10 ideas in the chamber right now that all beat the hell out of this bull shit!!!
Terrible movie thanks Todd
Because you’re not smart enough to appreciate it
@@ManifestScrutinythis film is not some rocket science or something to think about or be smart enough to appreciate it😂 stfu
@@ManifestScrutiny😂😂😂😂 this movie is not smart. There are plenty of much smarter movies that don’t waste the potential of its main characters. This movie will not do well regardless
@@Findinggod23 Just like the first movie, thus one is also brilliant. Your standards are just too low & you’re not smart enough
@@ManifestScrutiny Ah the old pretentious "you're not smart enough to appreciate it" card. Maybe the movie is just shit and that is how most people felt about it.
Stay away from Matt Reves
Tod is a coward and hack, he has10% of a great idea…. May Tod’s career in Hollywood and here please
Because then he’ll another unintentional great movie and ultimately destroy because he,s so pretentious… imagine if Tod Phillips painted the Mona Lisa and after everyone give him awards and titles and the one of the greats. He now look at this…. And have explosive diarrhea all over the Mona Lisa painting and then he says this is the true masterpiece…. That’s what joker 2 feels like
You write like a 6 year old.
He needs his AHS WHIPPED.
I just come here to spread hate and chaos since I did not vibe with the first movie, that guy was never the joker but people loved it, now I can spread the seeds of hatred because the sequel is absolute ass😂😂😂😂😂😂😈😈
Don't listen to hate mob. The movie was great. It was like nothing you would expect. That's how you make great movies. If you want another The Dark Knight Joker : Watch The Dark Knight. Joker 2 was something fresh and different. We need more movies like that.
Men lie women lie but those numbers don't lie.
🤣🤣🤣no taste. Horrible movie
@@reyking4330 Poop comment.
both critics and public agree. this was a really bad movie.
@@cervezafria4807 I liked the movie. My opinion matters the most because it's mine
SERIOUSLY!!!! why did you ask us to watch this crap movie!
Went to premiere yesterday. Movie sucks.
Because you’re not smart enough to appreciate it
@@ManifestScrutiny Have you seen it? can you justify the rushed ending that also undermined eveyrthing about his Joker personality?
@@ManifestScrutiny No, it just sucks.
@@terminad53 No, you’re not smart & your standards are too low.
@@lepersonnage371 Such endings that benefit with watching it again further confirms how incompetent you are at appreciating deep movies with deep endings.
Eminem - Stan (Long Version) ft. Dido (2002) / Shirli-myrli (1995) / Bon Jovi - Livin' On A Prayer (1986)
*Bold Swing*
*Different*
*Unique*
It is not inherently good, it's not guaranteed to be a great movie because it simply went an "unpredictable" route.
i could tell it was going to be trash when i got tired of seeing the ads for the movie , they felt rushed & cheaped out
Should of tweaked the whole movie😂😂
making bad movie on purpose
This movie was ass
@@righteousrawb7225 did u see it? Probably not
@@MikesCollectiblesV2i'll speak for him since i did see it because it came out yesterday (oct-2) here in Italy.
The movie was so pointless and it's such a parody on the first one that i genuinely think everyone involved (except the actors) wanted you to hate the movie. The amount of terrible decisions stacked over each other is NUTS and i can't believe how many of those ideas were greenlit by people in an office room.
I'm so shocked because i loved Joker 1 and i was open to the musical idea but wow, even with low expectations this movie was a huge slap to the face to anyone that even slightly enjoyed Joker 1 or what they were setting up.
This movie gave me one of the most sad (in a bad way) driving-home thinking moments after watching a movie that i've ever had. What a tragedy.
@@DistortedEmerald I’m not reading that long ass comment, also didn’t ask u I asked him bye
@@MikesCollectiblesV2 He's right, though. It's ass.
@@MikesCollectiblesV2 go collect some bitches instead of toys
I like joker 2
and why the ending is suck (grammar corrected)😢
Grammar?
@@MikesCollectiblesV2 bot?
@@IndianaJake grammar?
@@MikesCollectiblesV2 Imagine trying to school someone on grammar but then not capitalizing the first word in your sentence bahaha!!
@@IndianaJake grammar?
Everyone knows that the first movie was considered extremely dangerous to society because of its revolutionary tone and progressive ideas!!! I even said in 2019 that HOLLYWOOD was crazy to release such a movie for many to watch. The first one influenced an entire generation to oppose government systems through chaos and violence. IT WAS OBVIOUS that Warner would do with JOKER exactly what they did with the MATRIX in the fourth movie: deconstruct the ideological agenda... disguising revolutionary ideas within society through the deconstruction of the central character to the point of trivializing his own "INSANITY" as the main cause of the chaos, rather than his clear PERCEPTION of how hypocritical and controlling societies were. They even managed to turn the idea of the 2019 movie into a satirical and banal musical where love, once again, serves as an element of alienation and imprisonment for the character in front of the world’s problems. THE MECHANISM OF SOCIAL CONTROL is subverted, and the character's ideological and moral convictions succumb to guilt... fear and the disillusionment that everything he had done was, in fact, a mistake due to his own limitations within society!! I ALREADY SAW THIS in 2019. I knew they wouldn't forgive the first movie. So much so that the following year, they RELEASED COVID into the world, and the planet entered an economic recession... It was a type of response!! nothing is by chance!!! Matrix also went through the same stress... coincidentally also by WARNER, led by pragmatic, conservative Zionist Jewish Republicans. It's no surprise they're also destroying the movie MEGALOPOLIS currently showing!! THE WORLD BETTER BE ALERT! SOMETHING BIG IS GOING TO HAPPEN SOON AND IT WILL SHOCK THE WORLD!!
This is your brain on drugs.
Don’t suck up be real - no one likes this movie
Not speaking for you, but I loved it! Actually did something different. Bored of the same DC/Marvel movie.
That’s Collider.
I like it! 😂😂😂
interviewer weak, director weaker
Oh ,is that u fk up "joker" this classic character ?
why were some nice scenes also removed? smh
What a suck up. Seriously, this movie was terrible
imagine being excited by trash\
The first joker sucked too, face it. Joaquin still a beast though. Old School belongs in the Smithsonian.
Todd Phillips I hope you retire big guy. Turn it in you’re cooked after this one . They wasted so much money on Todd for nothing lol literally million just gone for this man to destroy a story
Yea, Christopher Nolan used that Camera Trick in the 3rd Batman movie (during big Action scenes) lol "going from 2.2 to 1.9" as he says... I like tod Phillips, he's done alot great work. but WTF was he thinking making this pile of shit movie... 1st was good. But this.. WOW..
I knew this movie was going to be a disaster when they announced they cast gaga for the role.
The movie is NOT a disaster. You’re just not smart enough to appreciate it
@@ManifestScrutiny you need such an high iq to appreciate a movie. My bad Einstein
Funny thing is take Gaga out of the movie and it would have made no difference. The reasons why it's a flop are still there.
@@NeonVars You’re just not smart enough to appreciate it
@@ManifestScrutiny you are a low iq 🤡
Look at how butthurt people are. Its legendary. Stay mad.
Musical= Flop
Super disappointing Mr Phillips
I heard this movie ruined some people enjoyment of the first one.
If you haven't seen the movie yourself, feel free to stfu. No information = no opinion
@@unknown-pmc not a fanboy (i'm a woman) and yes you most definitely can stfu if you aren't actually informed on the topic. Only conplete idiots allow other people to decide their tastes
@@tylerpurrden😂 😂😂😂
@@unknown-pmcI didn’t see any fanboying, he just doesn’t want to hear someone parrot opinions from those who actually engaged with the art, it’s worthless.
@@tylerpurrden I've already seen it and it's garbage
❤🎥🎞📽
Joker was a shit show of a movie and not comic accurate. Worst take on the character
It was never ment to be comic accurate. It’s not a cbm.
@@VenemiesTech it's based on a comic character so yeah it literally is a comic movie
@@IndianaJake it’s inspired by comic characters. But nobody sees it as a true cbm. And if you do, you will be dissapointed.
@@VenemiesTech Doesn't matter what people see it as or don't, it's by definition a comic movie.
@@VenemiesTech it was meant to be and they failed at that
Is he chatting on his phone??
The interviewer is asking brainless questions.
Even Todd is saying you’re full of shit you and I know this movie sucks 🤣🤣
The second one was also very much like the Joker. 😂❤
Imma keep it short. THIS MOVIE SUCKS 🤣🤣
Saw it today. I dont get the hate. I thought its better than the first
Joker 2 was way better than joker 1! He made a masterpiece!
Best movie 2025 Oscar Góes to JOKER
❤️🇺🇲❤️
How about no
Wait till he see’s the movie 😂 have u not heard the absolutely overwhelming backlash against this movie, and I wanted it to succeed cus the first one was a masterpiece and shoulda won movie of the year, but idk man I’ve heard nothing but bad things coming from the sequel
@@MikesCollectiblesV2 So, you have an opinion on a movie you haven‘t even seen? Did you really like the first movie, or did somebody just tell you it was good?
@@DrDeadsy42 wtf r u talking abt I’ve seen the first film 1000 times, I just saw the second one and its actually really good not bad at all
@@MikesCollectiblesV2 Okay, then I apparently didn‘t quite get your words or the sarcasm. 🤷
I have heard this movie really sucks
I'll leave you with my opinion. I think it's a great movie, it breaks the mold of superhero movies, it's a musical of a tragedy, it's based on a non-existent villain, it gives credibility to the idea that the Joker could be anyone, and I like that theory, as the birth point of a villain! Great movie..
By the way, why don't you see in the movie, the scene in the trailer where the two of them come down the stairs of the courthouse? ✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️ ✔️✔️✔️😉