I’m 712 lbs But I Don’t Eat That Much | Schenee's Story
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2024
- Schenee's Story from My 600-lb Life is one of the most dramatic in the show’s history.
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Meet Schenee Murray. Schenee is so deep in denial about her weight gain that she insists to Dr. Now that it’s due to “water weight”. Despite getting caught eating pizza and burgers while hospitalized, Schenee continues lie and deny about her eating behaviour. This episode covers Schenee's journey, albeit a tumultuous one, to getting approved for bariatric weight loss surgery and saving her life.
Though we'll be discussing Schenee's denial - the purpose of the video is really just to use Schenee's story as an example to relate to our own lives & on our own personal development journeys. Denial is a lot more common than you might think!
TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 - Schenee's Story of Self-Deception and Denial
3:06 - Denial: A Defense Mechanism
5:54 - You've Been In Denial Too
10:58 - Schenee's Treatment of Freddy
12:11 - How to Avoid Denial in Your Own Life
13:00 - Schenee's "Emergency" Hospital Visit
16:43 - Avoiding Her Next Appointment
19:33 - Freddy the Denial Enabler
20:18 - Schenee: Where is She Now?
21:00 - Tammy Slaton?
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Hey Kiana! I really enjoy your videos.. a great topic for behavioral change (and cognitive dissonance) is why people won't go vegan even though it's more morally aligned with most people ethically.. Bite Sized Vegan just made a great video called, why people hate vegans.. I think you might appreciate it!💗
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If you will shut up…. I couldn’t finish. So annoying
"You're not 700lbs of water!" One of my favourite Dr. Now quotes.
😂
if she was 700lbs of water she would fit inside a large travel bag, since fat is less dense than water, it takes more space for the same mass.
If she was 700 lbs of water, she would be only 0.3 cubic meters.
Was that a water pizza. 😅
Imagine if she retorted that the human body is >70% water in general. I'd love to see Dr. Nowzaradan's response.
@@dormiebasne3578 Atoms are 99% nothing, so technically, we're all just cosmic dust with an identity crisis. In Schenee's case, she's practically the poster child for existential pondering, being only 1% Schenee and 99% interstellar uncertainty. And let's not forget, the human body is 70% water, so really, Schenee is just a drop in the ocean of the universe, a mere 0.3% Schenee and a whopping 0.7% aquatic aspirations.
Imagine telling your spouse who wipes down your body that they are selfish. Freddy's commitment is above and beyond, and with no reciprocation.
Edit: I am adding to my original comment. Apparently nobody reads replies, but I acknowledged someone's very early reply that I posted my comment before finishing the video. Upon further watching, I did realize that Freddy is definitely not helping. Please stop bothering to post your reply to that effect. It's been said. I know. You don't have to tell me for the five thousandth time.
Exactly! He shouldn’t do a damn thing for her.
Or even a little appreciation! Damn!
Yeah, it's absurd. I would've checked out a looooong time ago.
Also known as a sucker
Never get marry with an obese person, this will be your biggest mistake.
I also can't believe she actually told her husband he's selfish. SELFISH. How insane to see that amount of unawareness, it's horrific and tragic.
He needs to leave her and let her try to live by herself so he can go find someone who actually appreciates him and doesn't need him to wipe their ass.
Freddy seems like a good dude, I hope he's left her and is with someone who deserves him.
I'd file for divorce.. I refuse to live with someone who not only takes no responsibility, but also devalues my care. _Bye, Felicia!_
It's 100% narcissism.
@VenomLeon 💯💯💯 The life is too short for dealing with narcissists.
She steals his life force.
Energy vampire.
"We ain't used to that kind of intelligement."
It was this moment that my husband, who learned English as a second language, looked over at me and said, "that's not a word."
😂😂😂❤❤❤❤❤winner of the comment of the day👍🏆👏👏
🤣🤣🤣🤣 English is my second language, and I concur 💀💀
Literally my favourite quote of anything ever!
Welcome to Ebonics.
Why learn to speak proper English, when you could just call anyone criticizing your barely intelligible speech a racist?
@@stevenschnepp576racist.
I love that she gave a false medical excuse to a doctor, because he’ll never figure it out🤦🏼♀️😂
I love how she told her husband she supports him financially. You know she receives disability or something equal. We are supporting them.
@@raimeyewens7518That was the only reason why the husband stuck around. He'd rather wipe her ass and live off her government check than go out and get a job.
@@JustAnAverageWoman69lol as if caring for this woman isn't equivalent to a full time job 😭 hes not lazy dude
@@JustAnAverageWoman69nah, caring for her is a full time job. He was an enabler
You mean she claim that she have water weight
Dr Now has so much patience. I could never deal with personalities like these. I know they’re all addicts, but I genuinely would get so burnt out doing his job
Well it’s his job. I think he does actually seem too matter of fact and not care about mental health of the patients
I agree, they are not only in denial, but some of them are straight up stupid and mean as well. I admire his calm and patience. I couldn't face this degree of complete disconnect with reality, decency and absolute absence of manners.
I’m sure all that TV-money helps a lot lol
@@corpsefoot758 lol I forgot about that. It is more comfortable to cry in a Mercedes than a Toyota after all
@@Sophia-ks9yu
Amen. Heated massage seats 😍
After being an alcoholic for several years and recently giving it up to focus on my health, your content really helps me. Denial is rough, I did it for years. Thanks Kiana!
Stay strong! I agree Kiana's videos about behaviour change are super helpful for improving yourself. These help me too. 🤙
You got this! SO happy for you! I can't imagine how hard quitting is but you did the hardest part! Best wishes to you!
@KyleHultman Good on You, Brotha!! Alcohol is hard for a lot of ppl to walk away from! I know a few recovering alcoholics, and despite their struggles with temptations, they(like Yourself) know that they made the right choice by staying away from alcohol. Andrew Huberman has an excellent video on the effects of alcohol. Keep up the work, We stand with You!
I am so proud of you. I’m happy that you’re focusing on your health! Keep up the incredible work, no matter how difficult some random days might feel🔥
I really feel u, i got the same problem a few years ago. I wasnt drinkin a very long time, but a lot…
I really know, that the most time u just want to be able to stop n u think u cant. U tell everybody there s no Problem at all, n u tell yaself u ve got to solve it by yaself… n while u r going on like b4, u really watch yaself diein more n more…
I m so happy that u are over that, cos when i see someone obviously on alcohol (i mean really adicted) this makes me so sad at all, cos i really know how they might feel…
My best wishes for you ❤❤❤
Hiding the pizza box showed "premeditation and planning".
She murdered that pizza! 😂
Bruh😭😭😭😭😭
Yeah, she ate all that pizza 🍕 out of that pizza box and claimed to Dr. Now that her husband Freddy ate all of that
Sure, she's a piece of work, but there's no way she was taking herself to the drive-through or even walking to the front door to collect a delivery. Freddy was enabling her for sure.
100%!
Emotional abuse can drive a man to do crazy things for the person they love
Right? At first I felt bad for him, but then I kept wondering if he was sabotaging her intentionally! Anyway good for both of them that he left
Freddy is NOT thin!
@doradodo1503 _sabotaging her intentionally?_ You've heard Schenee complain and whine and you jump to "sabotaging intentionally" and not "worn the fuck down and doesn't know what to do anymore because any attempt at genuine help would be met with emotional abuse"?
I love how the topics Kiana talks about in these videos can be applied to so many parts of our real lives. I feel like I gain a lot of information from these videos 😊
Thank you so much! That is 100 percent the goal
@@KianaDocherty ty for responding 💜 I love your videos
Me, too
i agree, this is why I keep coming back to Kianas videos
Hiiii Rina 😊
9:31 "The only things you do is wipe my a$$ and wash up." Good luck finding a partner that is willing to do that. If he's willing to do that, he's already doing far more than what's expected in a relationship. To downplay those actions, shows how she doesn't understand how relationships normally works. She basically just views him as a caregiver instead of a partner.
Whenever my boyfriend and I are in an argument one of us will go "But, do you believe in god?" and it makes us both laugh and the argument usually ends. 🤣 So one good thing came out of that 600lb life episode 🤣
I love this
well that just kind of sounds like you're avoiding your problems tbh
@@ayala157 yes, that is the joke. 🤨😂
I don't know if God exists but she Will likely Discovery It soon
I'm not into weight loss stuff. Never even had any problem with my weight but i just love your content. The only problem is that they ain't 1,5 hours long lol
Hahah well I mean all the videos are really about personal development / behaviour change so they're applicable to everyone!! I just can't seem to find many tv shows relevant to behaviour change that aren't weight related LOL & Thank you!
right?? I don’t have problems with my weight but I still feel like I can really learn from these videos and apply them to other parts of my life
@@KianaDocherty They should make one about alcoholics and then every month at the doctor they go "LOL you're liver is even more dead now" and then they fill a bathtub with whisky and go "tHiS iS hOw MuCh YoU dRaNk ThIs MoNtH" and then bugger off.
@@KianaDocherty i think super nanny, apprentice ( UK only) wife swap, rich house poor house might have some content.
@@peterroe2993 Just keep her away from the Jeremy Kyle Show 😅 but seriously are there no reality shows covering substance abuse and other compulsive behaviours? What about "Hoarders?"
I don't think this woman can run from any problem.
Literally! 😂
Bruh... She can't even walk
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Roll, maybe.
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“YOU ARE NOT 700 POUNDS OF WATER!” Took me OUT! 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
Damn she pulled the God card, the one guy who they say will literally hold you accountable for all your actions and judge you, the dude who gives you a manual for living that includes "don't overeat" right on it! holy moly she's so crazy...
@steelfalcon2000 Agreed!! gluttony is definitely a sin!!
Point me to a verse that says "don't overeat". Like, explicitly. There's maybe one in Proverbs, but that more decries it for inducing poverty, comparing it to alcoholism. Sort of. That "Seven Deadly Sins" thing? Yeah, they're not explicitly in there anywhere. That's a product of later theological interpretations.
@@Nixeu42 Is theological interpretation by the church not valid then? Because the whole bible is the product of theologians interpreting different books, passages and letters according to tradition in the Holy Spirit and discerning what is to be included and what is to be labeled a heresy. The correct question is “does the tradition of the church hold gluttony as a sin?” There is definitely an answer to that question if you are interested. And yes there are passages alluding to overeating, more notably Luke 6:25 “Woe unto you that are full now, for you shall hunger” where Christ was going through all the excesses that could damn your soul, the rich, the famous, the glutton, the immature. Christ constantly spoke against excess giving his disciples specific instructions to "take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness" (Luke 21:34). Surfeiting literally means overeating. This warning is carried forth by Paul in a letter to the Ephesians: "be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess" (Ephesians 5:18). His warning is about excess and his example is drunkenness. The seven deadly sins of the Catholics are based on the 8 deadly passions identified by Paul in Galatians 5, which includes drunkenness. Paul often uses the word drunkenness to describe excesses of the stomach, as over drinking in those days was much more common than overeating. Beyond that we also have very specific instructions from illuminated Saints that are much more clear.
@@steelfalconx2000 Interpretations are opinions, and I suspect you know what they say about those. That's one reason amongst many that I'm an atheist. I'm also someone who thinks looking for metaphor and symbolism in a text is closer to a Rorschach test, 99% of the time. Tells you way more about the person making the judgement than either the text or the original author. Since I also don't believe in the Holy Spirit, that argument falls flat too.
Honestly, you'd be much better off reading it straight through and learning the historical context of the Bible if you actually want to understand it, IMO. Especially the letters of Paul. How those ended up going through the Councils and getting canonized is a mystery to me. That said, I will admit that there does seem to be more basis to your claim than I found, though I still would love to know more about the context of those passages. I don't think you can pull lines from a text and understand them properly unless you know what the lines around them are saying.
Finally, and amusingly, i do believe that all of what you cited is New Testament (though I could be wrong), so I guess none of that applies if you're Jewish. Maybe the dietary laws around what's kosher are complex enough that they figured it would dissuade gluttony. Cthulhu knows my dad (who's an Orthodox Jew) has a hard enough time finding places to eat. Tends to cost more, too.
@@Nixeu42 I get what you're saying, and honestly most of the Bible is interpretation. The protestant view that the Bible is the only truth is also flawed because it misses the complete lesson, one that can be understood by both Scripture and the tradition. It would be hard to accept interpretations if you also don't believe in holy illumination, when one can obtain discernment from God to make some judgments about the faith. In the early days only the word of people who clearly lived in the Spirit was taken seriously, and even then a council would decide, according to the Scripture and the oral tradition, whether or not something had any merit. Unfortunately there are few Christians like that today, especially in the West. You can say I'm a Christian but I don't identify with most people that call themselves Christians today, they are a sinful judgemental bunch, unwilling and unable to actually carry their own cross. In order to live in Christ you must give up yourself. On your last point, yes it's mostly all new testament except for Proverbs. I give a lot of weight to the word of Christ. The thought of Jews not being able to overeat anyway due to really restrictive rules is kind of hilarious. Also remember that Christians also have the traditional fast they are supposed to keep, every Wednesday and Friday, as a way to temper the passions of this world. Modern Christianity has conveniently forgotten about that. Anyway, I appreciate your respectful tone, I hope one day curiosity gets the better of you and you end up in a church service 😆.
This is one of the best episodes of 600 lbs Life and if you watch it without realizing how you enable your bad behavior then I feel really bad for you.
BuT dO u BeLiVe In GaWd!?!
Agree. This was such a crazy episode. I definitely played "My 600lb Life Bingo" to this episode!! So much denial. So many great Dr. Now quotes. Endless entertainment and education at the same time. I never want to be even close to having that mentality.
@@caseyphelps6232😂😂😂😂
We all play more of a part in our fate than we often are willing to admit to ourselves.
@@creatrixZBDYES! Realizing that is the key to freedom.
It's so frustrating to deal with delusional people. It's pointless to engage with them
no battle is pointless
If they can not listen to your words then they have to watch your actions as an example
I only engage with them when I’m frustrated and need to have a logical debate to let off steam😭😭
Do you mean FLUSTRATING
Narcissism
My sister is like this. No matter how much I point out her blatant bullshit she ALWAYS talks over me and ignores everything I say. Why won't she just listen??
I'm not even happy for Shenee and her progress. :( She is such an awful human being that it's almost impossible to root for her even if she has lost some weight. I pity her baby. It's up for a lot of trauma.
She’s a food addict. It’s an addiction. Makes people awful.
Teacher: You haven't done your homework in 2 months!
Me: Its water weight 😒
Do you believe in God???
Honestly, thanks to informational content from RUclipsrs like you, Michelle McDaniel, Will Tenny, Coach Greg, etc; I managed to rewrite my habits and get back in shape.
Went from 265lbs to 195lbs, thanks in no small part to your educational material.
Keep up the content. 👍
Congrats! That’s amazing!!!
Whoa that’s amazing congrats on the weight loss!
congrats!!
Well done! 💪🏾
That's amazing, very well done!
I wish I was this early to class.
Amen. 🙏
I feel this. I denialed my way into a 5 year relationship with a serial cheater... The red flags were embarrassingly obvious from the start!
I absolutely was in denial about my weight for a while. I saw my photos and knew I looked bigger. But I convinced myself it was due to bloating. Then I went to the doctor and stopped on the scale and realized I was almost 180lbs at 5ft 2in. That shook me. I always said I'd do something if I got to 180lbs, but I never believed I would get there. I've totally changed how I eat and added exercise. I'm down at least 10lbs now. But yes, denial can be very dangerous.
Good on him for getting out of that abusive relationship I hope he met someone who doesn’t use him like she did.
These shows depress me, it’s sad to see people go that far and still not see the problem
I literally have to do a food journal on an app to stay accountable to what I eat otherwise I will be out of control with the snacks. Writing it down really helps me with accountability, I’m not one of those people that can just eat whatever and stay in shape, I have to work at it and be intentional. Schenee should do a food journal!!
By her attitude, no way she would do that.
Same here--it's easy to think "it's one little thing" and then it's suddenly not.
I was having a crappy day yesterday and hit the store and a big piece of carrot sheet cake was there. I considered getting it (though I'd mostly avoided sugar the past few weeks) and I checked the nutrition info underneath, thinking I could do an extra workout to compensate. 860 cals and 35 grams of fat. I put that thing down quick and walked away. No way was I gonna consider such a thing again.
Though I love working out now (I actually don't feel human if I don't get my morning workout in), it would take hours to undo that damage, my stomach would hate me for the quick sugar rush and I'd get nauseous, my sleep would be interrupted and I'd overdo it on dinner and mess up all the progress I'd made the past week. Nope, not gonna throw a monkey wrench like that in when the scale is finally going down instead of back and forth on the same .4 lbs.
Only if the journal believes in god.
@@keepdancingmaria 🤣 I'm sure there are 1 or 2 food journals with flowy script, flowers, and bible quotes on every page. Every other type of journal seems to have a "devotional" version, after all...
It is funny how perfect the timing of this video is. I passed an engineer exam a long ago and the results are not something to be proud of. Because at the time I was preparing I was at a very low point in my life. But today (wich is the day the results are out) I accepted my reality and decided to try again next year. Embracing whole heartedly the fact that I poorly prepared and that I can just try again. Typical me a year ago would just be mad and sad thinking why did I fail and not do well compared to other students. Your videos are like a reminder to me that my worst enemy is my self and that I should be more aware and more gentle to my self. Thank you, you deserve all the love and success
@@fish9840 ahhh thanks I am currently preparing for it!
Kiana's room decor is so cozy and gorgeous, I love it! Also this is a potent example of denial that can be applied to any addiction; another banger as always!
“I DON’T have a “problem”. I can stop whatever time I want!” 🙃
I think lying to yourself is super dangerous because people normally who lie to themselves will never believe anyone until it's too late you can't run away from the truth because it's always there and I think just putting it to water weight is super unhealthy and just gaslighting yourself.
Lol she got so mad at the doctor that she lost weight without his help just to spite him. I love when people are petty like that.
Reverse psychology?
How are you spite someone who wants to help you by doing what they wanted? XD That beyond me but that kind of a petty is good i guess
it's literally that looney tunes skit 😂 "you DONT wanna!"
She lost the weight because she got a new man. She needs external reasons to do the right thing. Many of us lose weight for reasons other than our health. We do it because we broke up with someone and we're back on the market, but as soon as we are in a relationship the pounds come back on. We need to be motivated by health and personal responsibility, but sadly, we're not.
“Only” and “wipe my ass” should pretty much never be used in a sentence.
"i will only agree to wipe your ass if you are a literal baby"
there's always a way :D
I wonder if Dr. Now feels bad about how many people he could've saved but they just didn't wanna be saved. Sure, it's tough for these people too, but the amount of people that he sees and can't help must be depressing.
Nah. He might feel disappointed that some cash cow client isn't sticking around ,but there are always a dozen more hammering at the doors. This isn't a charity with some soft-hearted kindly old doctor, this is a TV show that needs drama to keep going.
@@juliajs1752pretty kind how he’s the only one willing to even operate on these 500+ patients.Other doctors turn them away no matter how much money they offer.
I think he has expressed how challenging this is. He wants to help but he can't enable them. He can only help those who want to help themselves. The statistics are really rough. 😢
My aunt works as a nurse in a clinic that specializes in eating disorders but mostly anorexia.
She knows half of those teenagers will leave the hospital in a coffin and after almost 40 years it still makes her cry.
Dr Now is probably no different, tho he doesn’t get to see his patients die.
As someone who works in a helping profession, you just gotta remind yourself that your patients’ choices are theirs to make and theirs alone. It really sucks seeing someone fall victim to the consequences of their actions but if I let myself take the blame for not saving someone I’d burn out sooo fast. All I can do is offer potential solutions, whether or not someone wants to take them is their responsibility
Dude… you inspire me to be more conscious through your content. I don’t have weight problems, but I DO drink a lot. These stories can be applied to multiple things not just weight issues. You’re a GOOD person.
Hey good luck. I've seen a lot of people quit alcohol. Its tough but every day without alcohol is worth it.
@@peterroe2993 thanks a ton for the encouragement. I’m actually starting today and I’m kinda scared to be honest. Which is why I should cut back. I’m depending on it too much. That was kind of you to say, brother, thanks again.
One day at a time, you got this!
@@kalinkhok1681 THANK YOU. I never thought youtube comments would encourage me so much, that’s really kind of you. I truly appreciate it.
2 years free from alcohol. Best decision I’ve ever made. You got this 🎉
It's always the enablers in this situation that I find most fascinating. Like literally what does Freddy get out of this relationship? He's wasting his life talking care of this thankless, awful woman. She's an anchor around his life literally pulling him down. Get out, Freddy! Run!
People are like that because of enablers….
I have had depression episodes but with a child de care for and no one around to clean my shit, I have to work and function everyday…
Other people just lay in bed for weeks because their bills are paid and have someone cleaning their shit….
And I have zero tolerance for that! If there were no enablers…. i don’t think we would see millions of depressed people in the street… they would, like me, keep going!
Just like in cheating situations, the one cheating starts accusing the other partner of misbehavior. Everything she’s yelling at him, she should be saying to herself. People really only see themselves.
"I can't eat spaghetti without sugar."
Oof. That punched me in the gut. I used to put sugar in my spaghetti AND add extra sauce cuz that's what my Mom used to do. That hit real close to home.
That doesn't even sound nice.
that sounds disgusting
Oh my! Never heard from of adding sugar to spaghetti. 😮 But more interesting though is I think how attached we tend to be to the food we ate growing up and to the way our parents made them. That is something that I, myself, had had learn to move on from. Now, I have learnt to make food that I can really enjoy but that is nothing like what I used to eat growing up.
You're supposed to put a little bit if you're making sauce to cut the acidity of the tomatoes, but that's it.
@@sunniermoonif you're making your own tomato sauce from scratch a small pinch of sugar can help with the acidity from the tomato juice. Not a lot, just a pinch. If you're using pre-made sauce do not do that, they already added probably too much sugar.
I lie to myself daily. "You're doing great me" "im not hungry" "your mustache is on point today ypu handsome devil you" sometimes it works😂
Wahoo! Self care and positive self talk is great help!! 💪💪💪
She's so steeped in denial, she projects her anger and frustration at herself onto Freddy. She calls him selfish but she knows in the back of her mind, she's the one who isn't pulling her weight in the relationship because of her health-related sense of self-worth. It's cyclical.
I’m a Christian who received a very thorough and mature education in theology as a child. I don’t really need much of that to rip apart her silly excuses and abuse of religion to support her delusion. But even if people are NOT Christian-I highly recommend learning as much as you can about the dominant religion of your culture so you can deal with people misusing it. Not to hurt them (if you’re angry with religion, so something else please) but to make sure religion can’t be used in the terrible ways it sometimes is to hurt themselves and others.
Excellent advice.
this one is absolutely correct.
As a Christian from a non-Christian culture and region, you are absolutely right.
It's a good day when we get a new Kiana video!
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Food addiction is the hardest one to deal with. You can't just go cold turkey on food. I think the mental side of food addiction needs to be explored way more.
Everyone says this, but I actually disagree. You can easily find replacements for high calorie foods, eat those, and still get close to the enjoyable eating experience you had with the high calorie foods. You can just replace a habit with something similar. And you can still do it in the same situations as before - like while watching RUclips or TV or whatever. You can still do the same stuff you did, but you get less calories, and your health improves.
This is not possible with alcohol, cocaine, or whatever. It's possible to some degree with cigarettes if you use e-cigarettes. But other than that, cold turkey is the only way to go, and cold turkey is the hardest way to do it. You're not just replacing those habits, you're flat out removing them.
Also, there isn't even any scientific evidence for "food addiction". Some type of food dependence, maybe, yea, there's some data, but even that's not that much.
"Food addiction" is actually not a scientific term. There are certain ultra processed foods that are addictive, but an addiction to food as a whole is not a thing. It's usually either an addiction to certain junk foods(that are basically made to be addictive) or a type of disordered eating - like stress overeating, BED etc. I know what you mean, I just don't like this particular term because an addiction is an actual medical diagnosis and shouldn't be used as a buzzword.
You are right! Therapy is the biggest thing that made me change my life. It showed me exactly why I was doing what I was doing and how to stop it. Learn to love myself.
@@kaoryakasaka6835 I don't think that even those processed foods are "addictive". Cocaine is addictive. Heroin is addictive. Nicotine is addictive. Even then most processed of processed foods just - isn't. When I've been in the process of quitting smoking, I've woken up in the middle of the night craving a cigarette. This never happens with any food, ever. People who say food is addictive have never been hooked on anything.
@@StraightEdgeJunkieswear I've heard that sugar is more addictive than cocaine? and most of them are eating lots of it
Ive had a patient with extreme denial before. 500-ish pounds. Tells us she hasntl't eaten for days, often goes days without eating. With us she ate so many snacks in order to have some for other patients we had to tell her we ran out. She would then the next morning say she hasn't eaten in days, didnt est any dinner, that we refused to give her snacks all night (we gave her something along the lines of 3 sandwiches, 5 ice creamq, too many graham crackers to count)
She was ADAMANT she's starving herself and her weight makes no sense it must be water weight ect. Sometimes I think these people need to be recorded like that show Secret Eaters
Kiana’s video’s always fuel my walks and sometimes workouts to keep that mental fire burning for a better life. The simple yet effective knowledge she shares is incredible.
Wahoo!! Fuel that fire!! 🔥💪🔥💪
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Bodybuilders with experience buling struggle with the 10k calorie challenge, yet Schenee casually eats that on a daily basis. This is insane.
you have to eat all throughout the day even when you feel like throwing up to be able to pull something like that off, unless you're 600lbs apparently
Bodybuilders are usually eating 10,000 calories of whole foods like baked chicken, rice, and broccoli. It's hard to choke down 10K calories of that. It's extremely easy to eat 10,000 calories of ultraprocessed, highly palatable, highly caloric chips, pizzas, takeaways, microwave meals, cheesy potatoes, etc.
@@victoryfaction oh yeah that's also true, eating a large pizza in one sitting is easier than eating an entire rotisserie chicken even though the pizza has way more calories (I've done both)
@victoryfaction not really.....my app lists 10,000 calories as 3 large cans of pringles 2*16 inch thick meat pizza's, two pounds of lasagna, one pound of chocolate and one pound of cheese.
Its the equivalent of eating 5 pounds of pure sugar or two and a half pints of cooking oil. EVERY DAY!!!
@@peterroe2993uh, your app is wrong. Those are all high calorie foods but three cans of Pringles or a pound of chocolate or cheese is between 1,500 and 2,500 calories, not 10,000.
Reminds me of my father that was over 300 pounds and also said all of his weight was water weight... He died of an obesity related stroke in his sleep at age 50.
Her BMI is genuinely 100 points higher than mine??! I cannot fathom how uncomfortable it must be for her to be that size, hope she can heal herself.
This reminds me of amberlynn reid..when she loses any weight she claims it is her hard work and when she gains any she claims it is water retention...smh
Yup amber and FB are nothing but jokes
she just did it again last week lol
I'm a 6ft dude who is pretty overweight and she weighs more than 3 of me. That doesn't even seem possible...
Im two months out of a relationship that had too many red flags. It was hurting my health physically, I started drinking too much, gained weight, and just stressed and pessimistic all the time. I feel a lot better and still wish the best for my ex partner, just separately.
Yes
You’re not mean or unvirtuous if you don’t wish you shiddy ex well. It’s totally fine to not gaf, or be happy that they have to live with their bs without you.
I'd like to watch a documentary about people like Freddy because I often cannot tell whether they are villains or victims in the stories of these Super Obese people. On the one hand when someone is literally too fat to move on their own does that not mean you can control whatever they eat? On the other hand there seems to be an underlying relationship dynamic where the obese person guilt trips and manipulates their loved one into doing what they want.
When she said it's just a water weight i was stunned
to be fair she's built like a water balloon so I see where the confusion may come from
Classic 600lb Life reply..😂😂😂
I cannot imagine how much you have to eat to gain 30 lbs in one month.
This is like what, 125 000 calories? A normal chocolate bar has 500 calories. That means 250 bars of chocolate in a month, so 8-9 a day on top of your daily intake to hold your current weight (which is not a small amount to begin with at her weight).
@@Conval-wi5eh jesus chocolate bars have more calories than I thought
@@lotsaspaghettimamaluigi At least for us Europeans it's usually about 500 calories per chocolate bar. Our chocolate bars usually are 100 g (= 0,22 lbs). When you have fancy chocolate, like something with hazel nut or caramel or brownie something, it's even more, up to 560 calories per bar.
I don't know what your serving sizes are in the US, so I wanted to clarify my reference.
That means my calculation of 8-9 chocolate bars would be nearly 1 kg of chocolate (800-900 g) or nearly 2 lbs of chocolate every single day for a whole month on top of your normal calorie intake to gain 30 lbs in a month.
No shaming her, just a visualization what it would take and how unhealthy a diet has to be to gain weight like this.
I have an aunt who used to say stuff like "if God wanted me thin, he'd make it happen." Luckily she is trying to lose weight now. She was 4'10 and over 200lbs. Her body wasn't going to last long. Her knees are shot now.
My very religious mom always had a simple, but very effective, figure of speech that she used on my siblings and I all the time. I actually thank her for it now: "God helps those who help themselves." She drummed that into us constantly. And it's true! So damn true!
@pdruiz2005 definitely.. if you have the power within yourself, then you should take action. If you don't, pray for the strength.
Best part: her butt wiping husband moved on!
Hope he’s learned….
Denial-a real road to Hell.
Thanks for “cutting to the chase”, Kiana!
💜
He was in denial almost as hard as her. It’s hard when you realise that the naive, beliefs and attitudes you held towards love and relationships, have just been tempered by experience. Good for him, getting out
I’m glad you didn’t deny your kitty’s behavior. Your kitty has excellent body positivity.
Omg, she made me so mad watching her episode! Especially when she was confronted with that Pizza!
It's fast Freddie trying to pull a fast one 💅
Thank you Kiana. Your videos are helping me to stay motivated on my weight loss journey. 10lbs down, 60 to go 👍
You got this!
Keep it up man! It’s gonna feel so fulfilling. I lost 60 pounds a couple years ago by having a physical job and staying distracted away from snacks:) You’re gonna love your results.
It's interesting that Schenee was able to lose that much weight even with pregnancy all. I'm wondering if this happened after Freddy got out of the picture or he left Schenee and that was the reality check she needed perhaps? If anyone knows something, please share! I feel like it's such a cliffhanger lol
That level of denial is truly scary. I can only imagine what set her on that path. Addiction is a tragedy. I hope both her and Freddy are in a much better place in their lives now.
Her mother is short and over weight as well so IMO I believe she has been overfed from birth. She really didn't even try and wasted an opportunity to change her life.
The perfect response Doctor Now should’ve said when she asked if he believed in God is this and I would say the same thing, “Okay think about this, what if God’s plan was to send me to help you and you’re not accepting God by not letting me help you because he gave me the knowledge of science to pass on to you to help you and you not following this plan is you rejecting the Lord’s help.”
There is a great story where a man is stuck in a flood or a fire and multiple people try to help him including neighbors, firefighters and police in helicopters, but the man says no and claims God will save him. The man dies and goes to heaven and says to God, “Lord why didn’t you save me, I prayed and praised you and asked you to save me.” And God replied, “What are you talking about, I sent help to you. I sent your neighbor to save you and you did not respond, I sent the police to save you and you didn’t respond and I sent the firemen to save you but you rejected their help.”
The lord works in mysterious ways, some ways you never expect
Such a great video. I spent a decade ignoring red flags in my marriage and it took another decade to unravel it all and get back to reality. Denial is powerful AF.
I remember this woman- saying if god wants her to lose weight, it'll happen. Whatever happened to "god helps those who helps themselves"...? So many of the patients on this show are just dismissive and cruel to their partners/spouses, I have noticed. There are definately bad support systems and bad spouses on the other end as well, but it always irks me to see someone who is basically giving up their life to live someone else's for them being treated as if they should be grateful.
Don’t forget that using god as a n excuse in the way she did is against the bible. per her beliefs, shes going to hell for that one.
Can you do a video focusing more on the partners of these morbidly obesed people? Like what drives the partner to keep enabling them… Maybe a sense of guilt, being too attached, or not having a courage to walk away. That would be an interesting & new topic! Big Fan!❤
I would say it's classic co-dependency as seen in the relationship between any other kind of addict and their spouse/enabler. A lot of times that behaviour is something that is learned in the family of origin. For example, my Father was an alcoholic and both my Mother (his first wife) and my Stepmother ( his second wife) had Fathers who were alcoholics.
“Dr. Now, do you believe in gaw?!”
hahaha
No, Doc, but I believe in gravy.
She doesn't need excercises, she needs an exorcism 😱
*I got water weight* :/ it's tragic when people sell phrases to people to make money and people with real issues cling to them.
Oh my God, I'm SO glad you're covering Schenee lol. She was by far the most infuriating person on My 600 lb Life
Besides Steven Assanti 🤢🤢
She has ramped up her narcissism and delusions of grandeur tenfold since this episode.
Did you see that on her tik tok?
How does she get all that food? Does her husband buy it for her or does she order it herself? If the problem was that extreme with someone I cared about, I'd take away their phone and ask hospital staff to not let delivery guys into her room with the pizza.. ffs
That's really easier said than done... When someone is an addict, the only person who can help them is themselves. You can't forcefully sober someone up. No matter how hard you try. And when it's something like food addiction, it's even harder to change. It's not exactly like someone can go cold turkey on food. I have a cousin who's like this and her mom tried to take over and make her eat healthier and more balanced foods. All that did is just make her binging worse. When someone refuses to recover, there's nothing you can do.
@@CT-mw8lmit's different when someone is bed bound or nearly bed bound. If he stopped supplying the junk foods and fast food, she literally would not have been able to access it
I couldn't even afford all that food.
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700 Pounds ≈ 318 Kilo Grams
5 Feet ≈ 1,52 Meter
For my fellow Metric system users.
She is also short 😮 I admired the human skaleton once more...
Wow she's tiny (height wise) how can her frame hold all of that massive weight is crazy.
"Can't eat spaghetti without sugar?" Her parents failed her.
As someone dealing with a different addiction, I’ll say denial for me was also about protecting myself. Nothing changes if nothing changes- but what is life after the change? Is who/how I am really fundamentally wrong? That’s hard to accept. It’s easier to say it was just that one day, that one reason, that one circumstance. The reality obviously is that one bad day doesn’t create five bad years- it IS YOU.
Perfectly said! Wishing you strength in whatever you’re facing, you got this
I love that you made this video. Denial is so downplayed (or maybe I fear it in particular) I've grown up with people who are hardcore deniers. You can watch their eyes glass over and lose their luster as the denial script takes over their body. Chills me in my marrow every time 😢 that husbands life is my nightmare fuel
Schenee was the perfect example for this topic. Imagine arguing with a doctor who has years of experience in treating people with her health problems
“He ain't used to that kinda intelligment” was so ironic…
Listen at her mom in the background "Scheneee" you right there eating with Schenee..She was her enabler..
denial is fucked up. my dad always denies the bad things he has done, he is always the victim when, in reality, he is the one who does all the damage. because of this our relationship has gotten much worse lately. it's difficult, I want to help him, but his denial makes it tiring and often irritating. why should I help someone who doesn't seem even interested in changing?
Whenever I read something for school, I read it in your voice and inflection. It literally helps me retain information better lol. Your videos are always amazing and so informative!
I'm struggling with my own weight and eating habits... your videos always serve as a healthy reminder of what paths/mindsets NOT to go down. Your content helps a ton :))
As a former morbidly obese woman, I didn’t start losing weight until I wanted to. Nobody can do it for you. I was 265 pounds in September of last year and I am now 183 pounds now. I am still going strong. And I have a rare genetic heart condition(ventricular tachycardia with Long QT Syndrome).
I went into cardiac arrest 9 times and was without oxygen for 15 minutes and I wasn’t supposed to walk out of that hospital bed. But I woke up(by the grace of Jesus Christ) and I had to go through intensive physical and occupational therapy for 5 weeks and I was able to walk out of the hospital. I have a ICD(Implantable Cardioverter Defibrillator) and it took me 4 years to get into shape because I was so exhausted and depressed and I was diagnosed with PTSD from being in a coma and I ate my feelings for a while. After my boyfriend broke up with me I started losing weight and working out at home and I have never been happier or healthier even with my heart condition. I will never be that big again.
That is outstanding 🎉 you should be so proud
The irony of her question "Do you believe in God?" repeatedly. Is she doesn't even acknowledge from a religious standpoint that gluttony and laziness is a sin. She is saying it's in God's hands without recognizing that God and his law is calling her to lose weight. It's not the safe zone or excuse she thinks it is.
NOT FLUSTRATED!!! Girl you got me with that one, casual af 😂😂😂
Powerful video, I’m a recovering alcoholic coming up to 3 years sober and 100% relate to denial and how it protected me, when I was no longer in denial I fell into a severe depression and my addiction got worse until I got sick and tired of being sick and tired and got help. Love your videos btw
I’m learning so much about behavior change from your videos Kiana! Thank you so much for your thoughtful analysis and insights!
she is always so detailed I love it
Kiana I have to say, your room in the background looks so cozy and comfortable! Glad you seem to be living your best life
I really appreciate that you always prepare subtitles in your videos, makes it easier to follow along ❤
Kiana UGH I am so glad I found your channel - you are so incredibly talented in what you do and the way you speak. Keep ‘em coming !
Imagine seeing Dr. Now walking into your hospital room with a pizza box. That was her chance to come clean.
Love your videos; and this is def one of the most memorable episodes of 600 lb life. She wasn’t just in denial, she avoided and deflected like it was a sport. 🥴
Love your background Kiana! I feel like every video I watch you’re always leveling up the quality of everything!! Keep it up girl 🩷
love the uptick in the production of your videos Kiana!!
One thing you haven't touched on. It's obvious something traumatic has happened to this girl to cause eating/self soothing to this extent. The last thing she wants to do is feel the emotions that led her to this. I don't know why the doctors don't do a psychological exam on people this morbidly obese who are seeking treatment? It's the emotions she is trying to literally bury in fat. If she gets the gastric surgery she'll still eat crappy food and will probably gain the weight back. Until she deals and Feels the underlying feelings she's trying to obliterate by constantly eating nothing will get better.
I totally agree with you! I always thought that in addition to weight loss before surgery, a certain amount of therapy needs to be done. I suppose many people would balk at that and not do it. Schenee did have therapy sessions scheduled but skipped them, which is so sad because it really could have helped. I hope she's gotten some help since then.
Wait, but I thought the plan they were doing included the therapy and she skipped them 🤔
They usually include free psychotherapy as part of the program. It is not the first step, but if needed they add it. Typically the patient doesn't participate and/or doesn't continue going. I agree deep therapy is needed. But the patient has to actually show up to the appointment(s).
Yes I agree, this is very important
I think in order to get weight loss surgery you have to get an evaluation and you also are given a therapist. It’s up to the patient to take both the exam and therapy seriously.
Thanks for these great vids! Lost 40 lbs so far and I love learning how to change my mindset so I can keep it off
Amazing work! No doubt you can do it!
Your content has been very helpful during my cut. You've always made aware of unhealthy habits with slightly over eating then aggressively exercising to burn the calories the next day. Thank you for the quality you put into your content
Great video Kiana. It gave me a lot of points to be aware of in my life about my bad habits.
Yo, the determination for you to redo this video! I can't stop watching your videos. XD You talk about the issues in such a down-to-Earth way. Even if the issues don't pertain to us, I always find you tie it back to some big overarching theme. Happy I got to watch new content today! :D
Always a fun watch, and I hate that I can see myself in some of these vids. Since you talk a lot in regards to psychology, I would love to see a vid on the midlife crisis, and why so many who previously had no opinion on body modification get addicted to tattoos or piercings. I know there's an endorphin rush from the minor pain, but I mean in how these two things are linked. The midlife crisis and the body modification. Maybe because it's my age but I'm seeing it happen to almost everyone around me.
i strive to be able to articulate my thoughts like you. Once again, another very well done video. I don’t struggle with my weight, but that factor didn’t stop me from wanting to hear more and more. How you were able to make this extreme case relatable to the general public is really impressive. Where ever you go next in your career, i really hope you find time to continue making videos bc we alllll love them