Does it get you a 12 ah battery as well for your other tools? I personally am in the market for a small chainsaw, and I'm on the Milwaukee M18 platform with all my power tools. That 12ah battery would be a great addition
It does, but in this deal the 12ah battery alone would be $200 so the chainsaw itself is only $200. I got my kit for $339 pre-order so it was a no-brainer for someone who doesn't use their chainsaw a lot.
At 1:30 it probably doesn't make a difference on a tree that small but the back cut should be parallel to the ground rather than at an angle and it should come in 1" above the notch line rather than below it in order to form the hinge. Same thing at 4:55, there was no hinge because the back cut went right to the notch v point rather than 1" above it which made it fall the wrong way.
Thanks for the review! I appreciate that you clued in on how long the battery takes to charge. For most homeowners like myself, by the time you make a mess with the saw, put the battery on the charger and use that time to clean up/ grab a beer and then get back to work, (sounds like about an hour!) the battery should be ready to go again. I also like the fact that most average homeowners are going to buy this for a couple of chores, then the saw is going to set around for a while before he needs it again. Most gas saws by that time have the carb gummed up and needing to be worked on before you can use it again.
I was running this saw for about 2 hours at about a 30-50% duty cycle ruclips.net/user/postUgkxfQm1wmg0ItKDLavxj1nXtQY9HP7EF504 and it did a great job. I used the lever for the built in sharpener to clear chip buildup out more than to actually sharpen the chain. It managed to cut some hardwood stumps much larger than it's size without bothering the neighbors with hours of 2 stroke noise.
Great review. Thanks. The simple fact that an electric chainsaw doesn't require messy fuel, doesn't fume burnt oil and gas, doesn't smell anything, and is very quiet (compared to a gas chainsaw), starts up every time when you need it, and now is as powerful (if not even more) as same size gas chainsaws, makes this an ideal tool for most of us. Maybe not for a professional lumberjack that does this for a living all day long (yet).
David C yep, I have a greenworks full OPE kit.. saw, trimmer, mower and the chainsaw has a plastic quick adjust nut metal spikes... the bar can move but I mostly use it for clearing mountain bike trails or cutting camp fire wood
To be honest if your on the battery platform it's a better option than gas it may cut a tad bit slower or faster whatever but if you got a couple batterys and a couple chargers you will never run out of power also you need barely no maintenance besides maybe cleaning it and putting oil in you just plug up and go it's so simple and efficient no pullstarting no choke no carburetor maintenance and no gas it's also less hard on your ears
I bought just to have it....and we had the neighbors tree fall on my new car...I had no problem cutting up the tree into small logs...even my wife was impressed with it
Another stellar review Brian. Although the average homeowner doesn't have the needs of a lumberjack, you've easily demonstrated how this Milwaukee electric will do it all (and quietly) for most anyone, and even for some professionals.
Hey Brian I have no luck with mine I bought it yesterday for $354 with 12ah battery but as soon as I open the box I was so glad to get it but the battery was defected couldn’t run it for a second even when I put it on the charger the red and green light were flashing at the same time and that’s what the manual says it’s a sign of defective battery . You know mistakes from the factory happen.
My main beef with this saw is the weight and bar length. Doesn't that saw weigh more than your MS 361? I wouldn't want to be lugging that saw around all day and to only be able to pull a 16" chain as opposed to an 18" or 20" chain. I do like that it runs much quieter than a gas powered saw though and can see that being a major benefit! How is the anti vibration system on that saw? I don't remember you mentioning it much. Also, what type of chain is on the saw? Is it using a 0.063 guage?
I agree with your positive review since using my buddies saw....waiting for mine to come now, got the saw and two 12ah batteries for $399.00 from Tool nut
Seems like a great option in some situations. Sometimes I just want to cut a couple of limbs and don't want to smell like two cycle smoke for the rest if the day. And the noise factor is something I never thought about. However, when the time comes that battery pack replacement is going to hurt the pocketbook.
I've used a lot of Milwaukee tools for several years now. Not hard use, but frequent. Never had a battery issue yet, among about 10 different Milwaukee batteries I have around. Nothing like the old Nicad junk from years ago, these batteries don't go bad just sitting around. I had some Ryobi crap before I went Milwaukee, their tools and batteries are junk by comparison. The Ryobi chain saw: utter crap, a saber saw is far more useful.
Hey there and thanks as usual. I have the m18 2727-20 as well. I am seeing way to much oil leak and or using up the within 30 to 40 mins. Helllllp plz. Ideas. Thx
How does the saw run with 9.0 and 5.0 batteries? Just curious how the power drop off feels running smaller packs... might be good idea to use the 12.0 for the big stuff and keeps some smaller packs for cleanup if you only have the one 12.0 pack...
As we said, we only tested the 12.0 as we used this as a homeowner purchased just this saw. I have a feeling you will see a significant power drop if you go to a 5.0.
Tool boss did it with 9amp and 5amp and and there was no difference in cutting power but the batteries heated up more but once again Milwaukee lies about the 50% more power just get more runtime and the battery runs cooler
Great review dude, that hands on demonstration sold me. And yeah m18 line is awesome. PS I just handed off my old line of m18, non fuel hammer drill, impact and 6 1/2" circular to a friend and he couldn't be happier. I got the new fuel 6 1/2 kit on sale with 5.0 for under 200. I used the old one daily and haven't pulled my worm drive out in over 2 years haha. Next up on my list is the fuel super Sawzall, my current m18 is losing connection with battery contact but still cuts great after 6 years of use!
This 16" bar looks like 18" bar working great with a brushless motor. The charging rate is fast just the charger is a little bit hot. I could have this chainsaw going with my Milwaukee Super Sawzall, two Milwaukee Sawzalls, and a Husqvarna 460 Ranch with 24" bar. May be I wait for a second generation Milwaukee chainsaw and I wait for Christmas deal for a lower price and a free battery. Nice demo video. Thanks.
I have one of these along I with the 10in pruning and 6in hatchet I have bought carbide chains for all 3 and will never look back or buy a regular chain again. They are available on ebay. I do not have anything to do with the sale. The carbide chains go for a reasonable 50, 35, and 25 respectively. They cut like new or better than a new chain from start to weeks or months later or longer while never having to sharpen them. They show cutting cinderblocks with them and then cutting wood after as if no performance was lost.
I bought one of these saws as soon as it came out. And i would say that this video represents the saw accurately. I have not used any other battery chainsaws so i cannot comment on that, but i do think that Milwaukee is right to say that this is comparable to a 40cc saw. I am a little concerned about how the long the battery contacts will last. there is a lot of amps pulling though those little slip-on connectors. I would say it has to be nearly a 100 amps constant under load, maybe more. (if i get time, i'm going to set something up to measure it). For that reason i was thinking that they would have done what Makita did with the 2 batteries in series for a 36v solution to keep the amp draw down on the battery contacts. On the other hand, I do like the new "Big Bertha" battery.
Home Depot has an online deal right not that comes with the saw and (2) 12.0 AH batteries for $399. It sounds like it isn't available in the store, and you would need to buy online and either ship to the store, or shipping to your house.
Great review as always... would not have believed this was as powerful as the flexvolt chainsaw with their 12,ah in it...... because I know from experience nothing is close to the 575 especially the 577 flexvolt saws.........solid info thanks
Dewalt cuts faster the Milwaukee might more torque but with chainsaws you higher chain speed over torque. Torque is better for circular saws and recip saws
Very surprising that you say this Milwaukee can compete in power and runtime with Dewalt 40v which has twice the cells, twice the voltage and a higher 300 watt hour capacity. I’m not disagreeing... just saying I’m excited to get my hands on this tool.
The Dewalt was my favorite before this. I agree it is hard to believe, but these are new cells that are larger in the 12Ah and I have to assume they can pull more amps from them. Technology keeps getting better.
Those 21700 cells are amazing. The smaller 10 cell high output HD6.0 battery should be a very nice upgrade for tools like a drill or sawzall where power is key but ergonomics are crucial as well. Also, I’m extremely excited for the m18 shop vac!
WorkshopAddict Dewalt is garbage. It has its moment and fame. But miwaukee engineers understood something much deeper than the Dewalt guys. The power comes from the well fine tuned brushless motor and combined that with a smart battery management system built inside the battery pack. The cells are made by Panasonic which has a higher discharge rate and runs much more efficient than most batteries in the market. These are the same battery used by Tesla motor in their electric cars. Voltage is a misconception and false advertising by Dewalt to trick ppl into believing higher voltage us better. That is not completely true. A higher voltage runs cooler than a low voltage because it draws less current. But low current produces less torque. Which is why the Dewalt will never be at the same level as the Milwaukee.
@@loucifer323 lol, I design these things for an electric car. I spent months of research about battery materials. Voltage can only go so far. Battery is important but you can't leave out the rest of the equations without looking into it. Haha, I know nothing about voltage? Lol!!
I just ordered this saw yesterday. If you pre order it also came with a bonus 9amp battery with the 12amp one. I'm sick and tired of having a gas chainsaw. Every time I want to use it it does not wanna start cus it was sitting for a while or I got to mix new gas cus the other stuff has been sitting since the last time I mixed it. Plus I have lots of Milwaukee tools and wanted some bigger batterys with the 9amp and 12 amp batterys that I can use on my grinder and weed eater I'm sure I'll love it. Great review by the way!!!
Nicholas Brantley I only seem to see a bonus 9 amp battery for Canadian sites the you pre order for. I looked for U.S. sites but could not find the free 9amp battery bonus that's strange
Makes me wanna get one. I watched my brother in law pull about 50 times on his gas saw to get it going for one cut when we were trail cutting. With this Milwaukee, it would be one press on the button. Over.
Gas is still the only option for wood heating. These batteries have come a long way but still have a ways to go. Learning how to crank something is a thing. Motorcycles or what ever else.
I just ordered mine and got a sweet deal on it where it is coming with a second 12.0amp battery for free, I'm going to be getting it in 5 days and I have quite a few trees I need to cut down and limb with it, I will update my review after I have used it! Also since I picked up Milwaukee's new M18 Fuel Table Saw that came with a 12.0amp battery I will have three 12.0amp batteries plus I have 2 quick chargers so I doubt I'll ever run out of power lol! Update I got my Milwaukee M18 Fuel Chainsaw and it rocks it's got tons of power and will cut thru trees and tree limbs like a hot knife thru butter and I love how quiet it is and how there is no gas to mess with and no problems trying to start it I can just pop a battery in it and go and the 12.0amp battery will last forever in it and it's also super easy to use but it's not a toy so make sure to read the manual on it before you use it, Milwaukee did a really good job with the manual and in addition to the manual on the machine itself they sent a second manual with it that tells you how to use it and how to cut trees and limbs in all sorts of different situations so props to Milwaukee for sending that information manual with the saw! All in all I would say I got a steal of a deal on it getting the Milwaukee M18 Fuel Chainsaw the 12.0amp battery that comes with it plus a second 12.0amp battery with it for free all for $400!
Ain't going to lie, I'm pretty new to using gas powered tools, this one being electric. Had no idea I had to oil it... Used it for a couple different house jobs. Did I mess anything up? Really upset at myself for not realizing, I'm blind!
The worse thing you could have done was wore a bit of the chain. A 20 dollar fix. No worries bud. Use some oil and forget about the mistake. You did nothing to the the tool! Enjoy it!
Thank you Brian. Great video. I'd previously watched your review of the EGO 16". In your opinion, is this Milwaukee 16" more powerful and have as long or longer run time?
Question... I've been reading that wearing chaps doesn't give the same level of protection with a battery powered saw as it does with a gas saw because the battery powered saw doesn't have a clutch. As a result the blade will not necessarily stop quickly when tangled in the chap material. Is there any truth to this?
EOSJOE Where'd you read that? Kevlar chaps will protect you, or at least try to protect you with any saw, length, skip tooth ect shouldn't make any difference
I don't recall where I saw it. That's why I was wondering if you guys had ever heard anything similar - you know, seeing that everything you read on the Internet is true. :-)
So you've used both this and the 60v dewalt. Is the Milwaukee leaps and bounds better or only moderately more powerful? I am invested in both platforms, but don't have any of the new Milwaukee stuff. I have quite a few flexvolt batteries already, but with the current (2) 12.0 battery promotion, I'm thinking about spending the extra $200 to get it.
@@WorkshopAddict Yeah, I could tell from the way you talked in the flexvolt video that you weren't very impressed by it. I've been vascillating mainly because of the stupid way DeWalt mounted the bar though. Thanks for responding so quickly to an older video. Have really enjoyed the reviews, keep it up!
True i am ok with dual batery i guess its not a tool i will work with everyday . If the dual batery systeme is like with the mower or the blower is would have serious power
Next years they release pouch cell and it will have been 5 years since the fuel cir saw was release i guess they will release more tool along with the pouch cell
I do still believe it to be the best as it has the most power and torque out of all the saws I have tested with the batteries made at the time of testing. I have not tested the Flexvolt saw with a 12.0 Ah battery, but IMHO, the Dewalt 40-volt trumped that saw anyway. Power, familiarity with a gas saw, VST all made this rock. I was comfortable felling trees with it because I knew it would not stop on me when I needed it.
me217 Yes, you can search out our review of both the EGO saws. The EGO saw with the 7.5 Ah will have a longer runtime, but not the power of the Milwaukee.
Very nice review. I am in m18 platform and just wondering how this saw performs (power and runtime) with a 9.0 battery attached. Combining the 12.0 with the 9.0 runtime results could be interesting. Keep up the good work.
leonidas manouilidis As stated in this video, it will work with all the batteries but we tested it as one saw purchased to do a job and did not test the 9.0... I have to assume it will perform great, just not have the same runtime.
Crunch9876 i agree. There s a limitation with the smaller batteries. I don t think this chainsaw can make it with anything under a 5.0. Theoretically it might but it won t be that usable. One way or another looks like an excellent tool for what it is.
Bryan, I commented few months ago about the EGO chainsaw vs the Milwaukee chainsaw. The Milwaukee chainsaw is better than the EGO, no questions asked. I own both platforms and looking for a chainsaw, but not to break the bank. I already have the 5.0AH EGO battery due to my lawnmower and I have 2x 5.0AH Milwaukee batteries. Do you think, as a homeowner who needs his chainsaw for small trees (6-8 inches wide) a couple of times per year, that the Milwaukee with 2x 5.0AH batteries is a good option compared to EGO ? Or should I just get the EGO since I already have the "proper" battery ? Thanks !
@@WorkshopAddict Thank you, this is a good point. I am just wondering if a 5.0AH battery in the Milwaukee chainsaw is a good match and will not overheat or be depleated in 2 minutes. You haven't tested it with a 5.0AH right ? I emailed Milwaukee about this a few days ago, but they didn't get back to me yet. I am planning on buying the tool only to save some bucks since I already have some batteries around. And I don't see myself buying the 9.0 or 12.0AH Milwaukee batteries in the future for what I do at home.
@@SpookyNeo We have not tested it with the 5.0 but we know you will see decreased power. But nothing that your description of use would matter. In the case you do get a string trimmer or other tool, Milwaukee would be the place to be and a larger battery might find its way home with you some day.
If you watch "AVE" s review there's a gear box which no other electric chainsaw really has. Also that 12Ah battery can output 1600watts = 15a plug powered saw.
WorkshopAddict by power ? or runtime ? Both ? See i have 5 batteries so I never seem to run out of battery lol ... I find the EGO burns thew each cut with ease honestly just from the weight of the saw/battery lol this saw seems light weight witch is awesome ! Less getting tired lol see I know a tree guy who uses a ego on the ground at the chipper its faster than starting and stoping a gas saw making small cuts here and there .... His guys would get lazy and bend brush into the chipper really dangerous with there ego they grab cut and boom jobs done ... I bet this saw could change things big time for alot of guys running a chipper ....
JeeperJimbo 1990 Well, with the 7.5 Ah battery from EGO, this Milwaukee will not out last it in runtime, but it will keep up with the 5.0 Ah amazingly. Power, the Milwaukee has a lot more.
Good review! Was this an anyway sponsored by Milwaukee? Like did you did they give you the saw for free, reduced cost, or whatever, for a favorable review?
Ryan Jewell I think this kicks the ECHO's butt..... By a long shot. At least in real world feel and power. I felt you had to baby the ECHO through a cut so it did not cut out.
I say at 7:11 that this will outrun and out power the Dewalt 40-volt. Hard to imagine, but of all the saws the Dewalt 40-volt is the closest we have used to this M18.
Need to run both with the 12ah batteries too actually see what's what... My father's flexvolt with a 9ah cuts awesome, and in IMO just as fast as this one does from what I can see in the video... Maybe I'm wrong
WorkshopAddict Dude twice the power a little eexaggeration, if it was twice the power or even a little more powerful, trust me if they knew this was more powerful than Dewalth and Makitas chainsaws they would have had them painted gray and went head to head with them, instead they went up against gas chainsaw which both Dewalt and Makita have videos beating gas chainsaws , and from what I see on the video's they look pretty even and the makita looks more powerful than both, please tell me your not drinking the red kool-aid, I was told that Milwaukee is giving free tools out to a lot of tool reviewers on RUclips
Lou Cifer The Makita chainsaw is 12"...... Do you really think they would have put a 12" bar on it if it was the most powerful out? Dewalt, as a company, claims the 40-volt line to be their commercial line and the flexvolt line to be the homeowner line in OPE. So, Yes, I feel this is almost double the power of the flexvolt, but not double the power of the 40-volt. The 40-volt batteries have many more cells for the saw to pull power from than the flexvolt. I stand by what I have said. I have used the saws, you have watched them be used.
WorkshopAddict Pro tool reviews did a battery chainsaw shootout and the 60v flexvolt cut twice as fast as the 40v the only thing the 40v had on the flexvolt was runtime, and the new makita 36 volt has 14in bar
Qua Phan let me tell you about warranties, they only warrant the tool if it breaks on proper use of tool, now if you drop that tool and crack that plastic body the warranty is voided, my tool better last longer than the warranty if I use it properly
crunch9876 Milwaukee’s warranty department is actually pretty good. Using either mail in or a supply house that repairs them. Or will just straight give you a new tool. That said though, don’t think you can chain a rock and get a new saw because the gear box broke. Which speaking of, I’m extremely impressed with the metal gear drive. Most saws I’ve seen use a plastic gear as a type of safety feature.
Nice review. Looks like a great chainsaw. Milwaukee is on a roll, lately. I have their string trimmer and 2nd-gen. blower and really like them. I'm very impressed with the trimmer's performance in low speed mode, and its run-time. I rarely ran my 40V Dewalt trimmer in low speed mode. M18 power is no joke.
I have mixed feelings about this honestly. I like the idea of a battery powered electric saw for lopping limbs and such. It is the price that I take issue with. I run a Stihl MS361 as well for primary cutting. Obviously it isn't going to replace that. However at $400 there are A LOT of other options for drastically less. I rarely am concerned about noise so honestly a smaller Ms250 is just going to be a better choice. If there is a situation I need to be quite there are plenty of 16" electric saws under $150. The drawback to those obviously is the extension cord. I'm just not convinced that cordless is worth the jump from $150 to $400 for really very niche use. Now if this saw were say..around $250 it suddenly becomes a great deal more appealing. Again not knocking its capability, I like its capability. I just feel its price is putting it squarely out of contention with other options.
OmegaGamingNetwork To me it's a good price because I already have lots of Milwaukee tools and getting the 12ah battery with it that I can use for other tools also.
Fair enough, I'm just pointing out that for most people who aren't heavily invested in milwaukee the value of this is pretty weak. Again I'm not saying it isn't a good little saw, it seems to be. I'm just questioning the price point.
I'm glad you are working on a smaller trees while you are learning how to fell. Wow you just said you've cut down 1000s? Did you work on a Christmas tree farm or are you just one lucky mother!
Interesting review. I'd like to see an 18 or 20 inch model from Millwaukee. It is said that this Millwaukee is the most powerful wireless chainsaw and has the best run time lithium batteries. How do you compare this Millwaukee to others like Green Works & Kobalt 18 inch 80W etc?
In total honesty I'm a dewalt guy everything I own is dewalt I've spent easily 40k in brand new contractor tools. I own every tool they make and if they come out with something new I buy it. I've never considered buying red anything until doing a side by side test of my dewalt saws vs my buddy's Milwaukee and it's not close. The Milwaukee chainsaw is way better cuts better and hit a home run with having bar nuts and normal set up rather than tooless tensioning. The dewalt chainsaws will break in the oil cap and the tensioner plastic b.s without fail with minimal use. I own the 20vxr the 60v and 40v chainsaws from dewalt and they would be great if they had Milwaukees regular chainsaw setup. I might by a red saw soon and it's gonna stick out in all my yellow. I'm frustrated dewalt didn't just have a normal oil cap and bar nuts like Milwaukee my saws oil caps are broke need new ones. The tensioning system is cool in thought and ingenuity but in real life the tool one is more reliable. Reliance on my tools is my way of life. That's why I buy dewalt tuff every time but this time I got 3 chainsaws that aren't running due to broken bar oil retaining caps. How is that dewalt tuff? .
Great question. My grandparents were farmers and we have planted over 26,000 trees over 80 acres. We purchased them all from Vans Pines Nursery when they were 6" tall.
I've probably cut well over a thousand trees too, and only planted a fraction of that. however my family's property is more overgrown now than when i was a kid. it's almost like they plant themselves. come to think of it, I don't remember planting any weeds in the garden.......
Thanks for the video, good stuff. Love the unbiased review, see lots of people pre-judge electric tools poorly just because they're electric. Given the implementation of all the tool less chain tensioning systems thus far, I definitely consider the tool-required setup a bonus.
When they say," It cuts as well as gas." That's called a marketing gimmick. It looks comparable to a little 20cc powerhead. I have their "Hatchet." You wouldn't want a toolless bar system in that thing. You need to make sure it's dogged down tight. Yes, I'd recommend it. It is expensive, but it's worth saving up for.
I saw this in Home Depot priced at around 550 why would anybody buy this at that price point when a real saw can be baught for the same price btw in Canada
Because a real saw is like a real wife and takes a lot of fussing and babying to keep it happy and running well. This is more like 'rent-a-wife' and is ready to cut as soon as you've got wood ready ;) I've got a 'real saw' sitting in the shed for the last 30 years. I could have used it several occasions, but I know it'll be a bitch to get cleaned up and started, to say nothing of the mess of getting fuel ready for it, fuel which will sit around and go bad in no time. I actually have made do with a Milwaukee Hackzall for general yard work. It'll delimb a mess of trees on one charge, too.
Most good saws employ a brushless motors and will convert stored electricity to work equally well. The amount of wood you can cut pretty much depends upon the total amount of energy in the battery. Total energy is a product of Volts x Amps. x battery count. One Milwaukee 18V (nom) 12Ah battery weighs 3.7 lbs. (18)x(12) = 216 watts One Husqvarna 36V (nom) 4.2 Ah battery weighs 3.21? lbs (36)x(4.2) = 151 watts Two (2) Makita 18V (nom) 6 Ah batteries weigh 2.7 lbs. (2)x(6)x(12) = 216 watts One Dewalt 54V (nom, not max) 4Ah battery weighs 3.2 lbs (54)x(4) = 216 watts One Still with 36V (nom) 4.9 Ah battery weighs 3.8lbs (36)x(4.2) = 178 watts Any differences observed are minor and related to the bar length, chain type and sharpness and any gear loses (if geared). Milwaukee is among the heaviest @ 14.0 lbs while Makita weighs the least @ 10.1 lbs, both with batteries. 216 watts will cut an impressive amount of wood, about a ¼ pickup load thrown on. I would guess it takes about 800 to 1000 watts for a pickup load. I own a Makita and a bunch of batteries. I have a 12, 14 and 16 inch bar for the saw to use depending on what I’m cutting. I toss about 6 to 8 batteries in my buggy and I am able to fill my small trailer (about ⅔ pickup bed size) and still have batteries to spare. Having a lot of batteries and a lot of chargers is key if you’re cutting firewood.
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Great review Brian. Truthfully, for $400 with a 12Ah battery, this saw is a very good deal if you're in the Milwaukee platform.
Hell yeah and once you use it, that seems like a steal! I have well over that into many of my gas saws.
$400 gets you a great chainsaw. I’d go with gas any day.
Does it get you a 12 ah battery as well for your other tools? I personally am in the market for a small chainsaw, and I'm on the Milwaukee M18 platform with all my power tools. That 12ah battery would be a great addition
In Stihl terms that is an MS260 or so..... If you cut a lot, I can see it, if not, I do not see $400 getting me a great gas saw, IMHO....
It does, but in this deal the 12ah battery alone would be $200 so the chainsaw itself is only $200. I got my kit for $339 pre-order so it was a no-brainer for someone who doesn't use their chainsaw a lot.
At 1:30 it probably doesn't make a difference on a tree that small but the back cut should be parallel to the ground rather than at an angle and it should come in 1" above the notch line rather than below it in order to form the hinge. Same thing at 4:55, there was no hinge because the back cut went right to the notch v point rather than 1" above it which made it fall the wrong way.
Thanks for the review! I appreciate that you clued in on how long the battery takes to charge. For most homeowners like myself, by the time you make a mess with the saw, put the battery on the charger and use that time to clean up/ grab a beer and then get back to work, (sounds like about an hour!) the battery should be ready to go again. I also like the fact that most average homeowners are going to buy this for a couple of chores, then the saw is going to set around for a while before he needs it again. Most gas saws by that time have the carb gummed up and needing to be worked on before you can use it again.
Right on Matt!
I was running this saw for about 2 hours at about a 30-50% duty cycle ruclips.net/user/postUgkxfQm1wmg0ItKDLavxj1nXtQY9HP7EF504 and it did a great job. I used the lever for the built in sharpener to clear chip buildup out more than to actually sharpen the chain. It managed to cut some hardwood stumps much larger than it's size without bothering the neighbors with hours of 2 stroke noise.
Great review. Thanks. The simple fact that an electric chainsaw doesn't require messy fuel, doesn't fume burnt oil and gas, doesn't smell anything, and is very quiet (compared to a gas chainsaw), starts up every time when you need it, and now is as powerful (if not even more) as same size gas chainsaws, makes this an ideal tool for most of us. Maybe not for a professional lumberjack that does this for a living all day long (yet).
The non quick bar adjustment is a good thing, some of the quick adjust bars move and are not skookum at all.
Yeah that flex volt chain retintion system seemed very crappy for the caliper of tool.
David C yep, I have a greenworks full OPE kit.. saw, trimmer, mower and the chainsaw has a plastic quick adjust nut metal spikes... the bar can move but I mostly use it for clearing mountain bike trails or cutting camp fire wood
You must watch AvE's channel?
To be honest if your on the battery platform it's a better option than gas it may cut a tad bit slower or faster whatever but if you got a couple batterys and a couple chargers you will never run out of power also you need barely no maintenance besides maybe cleaning it and putting oil in you just plug up and go it's so simple and efficient no pullstarting no choke no carburetor maintenance and no gas it's also less hard on your ears
Better to have both they each have their place
Ive had mine about 5 years and love it rugged as hell!run the 12.0 in all your "big" milwaulkee tools and you will love em!
yeah Milwaukee own the streets. Just did a drive by with the Milwaukee m18 nailer on some dewalt guys throwin gang signs
What gauge? :)
meet my paslode with modded safety. muahahahaa
You got gas?
Throwing up the W...I mean the M 😂
I bought just to have it....and we had the neighbors tree fall on my new car...I had no problem cutting up the tree into small logs...even my wife was impressed with it
Pretty amazing what you can do with 18 volts now.
Compared to 5 years ago, it is amazing. Compared to 10 years ago it is unbelievable.
Another stellar review Brian. Although the average homeowner doesn't have the needs of a lumberjack, you've easily demonstrated how this Milwaukee electric will do it all (and quietly) for most anyone, and even for some professionals.
Thanks Bob
The M18 16-inch chainsaw w/rechargeable battery is a great beginner machine. Been using my new one for a week and loving it.
Hey Brian I have no luck with mine I bought it yesterday for $354 with 12ah battery but as soon as I open the box I was so glad to get it but the battery was defected couldn’t run it for a second even when I put it on the charger the red and green light were flashing at the same time and that’s what the manual says it’s a sign of defective battery . You know mistakes from the factory happen.
That sucks!
NEW CHAIN SAW, A new battery, an expeirenced cutter makes for A good expo. GREAT JOB
The voltage doesn't matter as much as a lot of people think, it's all about the KV rating on the motor (assuming it is brushless).
Voltage is only potential.
My main beef with this saw is the weight and bar length. Doesn't that saw weigh more than your MS 361? I wouldn't want to be lugging that saw around all day and to only be able to pull a 16" chain as opposed to an 18" or 20" chain. I do like that it runs much quieter than a gas powered saw though and can see that being a major benefit! How is the anti vibration system on that saw? I don't remember you mentioning it much. Also, what type of chain is on the saw? Is it using a 0.063 guage?
I agree with your positive review since using my buddies saw....waiting for mine to come now, got the saw and two 12ah batteries for $399.00 from Tool nut
It is a nice saw!
Seems like a great option in some situations. Sometimes I just want to cut a couple of limbs and don't want to smell like two cycle smoke for the rest if the day. And the noise factor is something I never thought about. However, when the time comes that battery pack replacement is going to hurt the pocketbook.
I've used a lot of Milwaukee tools for several years now. Not hard use, but frequent. Never had a battery issue yet, among about 10 different Milwaukee batteries I have around. Nothing like the old Nicad junk from years ago, these batteries don't go bad just sitting around. I had some Ryobi crap before I went Milwaukee, their tools and batteries are junk by comparison. The Ryobi chain saw: utter crap, a saber saw is far more useful.
Hey there and thanks as usual. I have the m18 2727-20 as well. I am seeing way to much oil leak and or using up the within 30 to 40 mins. Helllllp plz. Ideas. Thx
I love the M18 line. The batteries get better and the tools just work.
I recently bought the Milwaukee m18 chainsaw, and I find it to be amazing.
Glad you like it!
How does the saw run with 9.0 and 5.0 batteries? Just curious how the power drop off feels running smaller packs... might be good idea to use the 12.0 for the big stuff and keeps some smaller packs for cleanup if you only have the one 12.0 pack...
As we said, we only tested the 12.0 as we used this as a homeowner purchased just this saw. I have a feeling you will see a significant power drop if you go to a 5.0.
Tool boss did it with 9amp and 5amp and and there was no difference in cutting power but the batteries heated up more but once again Milwaukee lies about the 50% more power just get more runtime and the battery runs cooler
Good clear video review and instructions. When the rain stops, it's off to work we go. Mike, Tasmania
Great review dude, that hands on demonstration sold me. And yeah m18 line is awesome. PS I just handed off my old line of m18, non fuel hammer drill, impact and 6 1/2" circular to a friend and he couldn't be happier. I got the new fuel 6 1/2 kit on sale with 5.0 for under 200. I used the old one daily and haven't pulled my worm drive out in over 2 years haha. Next up on my list is the fuel super Sawzall, my current m18 is losing connection with battery contact but still cuts great after 6 years of use!
The super sawzall is amazing.
I have the Milwaukee Sawzall and I love it!
This 16" bar looks like 18" bar working great with a brushless motor. The charging rate is fast just the charger is a little bit hot. I could have this chainsaw going with my Milwaukee Super Sawzall, two Milwaukee Sawzalls, and a Husqvarna 460 Ranch with 24" bar. May be I wait for a second generation Milwaukee chainsaw and I wait for Christmas deal for a lower price and a free battery. Nice demo video. Thanks.
How does it compare to what most consider the best electric chain saw, The EGO 56 Volt.
Need this comparison!!
I have one of these along I with the 10in pruning and 6in hatchet I have bought carbide chains for all 3 and will never look back or buy a regular chain again. They are available on ebay. I do not have anything to do with the sale. The carbide chains go for a reasonable 50, 35, and 25 respectively. They cut like new or better than a new chain from start to weeks or months later or longer while never having to sharpen them. They show cutting cinderblocks with them and then cutting wood after as if no performance was lost.
I bought one of these saws as soon as it came out. And i would say that this video represents the saw accurately. I have not used any other battery chainsaws so i cannot comment on that, but i do think that Milwaukee is right to say that this is comparable to a 40cc saw. I am a little concerned about how the long the battery contacts will last. there is a lot of amps pulling though those little slip-on connectors. I would say it has to be nearly a 100 amps constant under load, maybe more. (if i get time, i'm going to set something up to measure it). For that reason i was thinking that they would have done what Makita did with the 2 batteries in series for a 36v solution to keep the amp draw down on the battery contacts. On the other hand, I do like the new "Big Bertha" battery.
How does this compare to the Makita 36V chainsaw?
It is a solid 2 to 3 times the power of the Makita. Look at the size trees we cut with the Makita compared to this video.
Home Depot has an online deal right not that comes with the saw and (2) 12.0 AH batteries for $399. It sounds like it isn't available in the store, and you would need to buy online and either ship to the store, or shipping to your house.
I have the stihl msa 200c and I think it’s a joke. Do you know if this Milwaukee is better?
I know it is better. We tested the MSA200 when it came out. Search back for our review. It was good for it's time, but not anymore.
WorkshopAddict ok thank you.
Great review as always... would not have believed this was as powerful as the flexvolt chainsaw with their 12,ah in it...... because I know from experience nothing is close to the 575 especially the 577 flexvolt saws.........solid info thanks
Let's be clear, I have never used the Flexvolt saw with the 12Ah battery. But I feel the 40-volt dewalt is more powerful than the flexvolt.
WorkshopAddict the 40v is not more powerful. It just has longer runtime. I’ve used both dewalt a buy not the Milwaukee.
Should have shown a side by side in the same wood for Milwaukee and dewalt.
Dewalt cuts faster the Milwaukee might more torque but with chainsaws you higher chain speed over torque. Torque is better for circular saws and recip saws
Very surprising that you say this Milwaukee can compete in power and runtime with Dewalt 40v which has twice the cells, twice the voltage and a higher 300 watt hour capacity. I’m not disagreeing... just saying I’m excited to get my hands on this tool.
The Dewalt was my favorite before this. I agree it is hard to believe, but these are new cells that are larger in the 12Ah and I have to assume they can pull more amps from them. Technology keeps getting better.
Those 21700 cells are amazing. The smaller 10 cell high output HD6.0 battery should be a very nice upgrade for tools like a drill or sawzall where power is key but ergonomics are crucial as well. Also, I’m extremely excited for the m18 shop vac!
WorkshopAddict Dewalt is garbage. It has its moment and fame. But miwaukee engineers understood something much deeper than the Dewalt guys. The power comes from the well fine tuned brushless motor and combined that with a smart battery management system built inside the battery pack. The cells are made by Panasonic which has a higher discharge rate and runs much more efficient than most batteries in the market. These are the same battery used by Tesla motor in their electric cars. Voltage is a misconception and false advertising by Dewalt to trick ppl into believing higher voltage us better. That is not completely true. A higher voltage runs cooler than a low voltage because it draws less current. But low current produces less torque. Which is why the Dewalt will never be at the same level as the Milwaukee.
@@loucifer323 lol, I design these things for an electric car. I spent months of research about battery materials. Voltage can only go so far. Battery is important but you can't leave out the rest of the equations without looking into it. Haha, I know nothing about voltage? Lol!!
Flash Tech the other guys comment made me laugh so hard. Lol
I just ordered this saw yesterday. If you pre order it also came with a bonus 9amp battery with the 12amp one. I'm sick and tired of having a gas chainsaw. Every time I want to use it it does not wanna start cus it was sitting for a while or I got to mix new gas cus the other stuff has been sitting since the last time I mixed it. Plus I have lots of Milwaukee tools and wanted some bigger batterys with the 9amp and 12 amp batterys that I can use on my grinder and weed eater I'm sure I'll love it. Great review by the way!!!
What site has the 9amp and 12 amp battery included?
Well I am from Canada and I ordered from BC fasteners. Alot of sites that I looked at had a free bonus 9amp battery.
Looking for a USA site, doesn't seem to be any that I can find.
Nicholas Brantley I only seem to see a bonus 9 amp battery for Canadian sites the you pre order for. I looked for U.S. sites but could not find the free 9amp battery bonus that's strange
Makes me wanna get one. I watched my brother in law pull about 50 times on his gas saw to get it going for one cut when we were trail cutting. With this Milwaukee, it would be one press on the button. Over.
Gas is still the only option for wood heating. These batteries have come a long way but still have a ways to go. Learning how to crank something is a thing. Motorcycles or what ever else.
I red some reviews that the chain came off very often, have you had that problem?
I just ordered mine and got a sweet deal on it where it is coming with a second 12.0amp battery for free, I'm going to be getting it in 5 days and I have quite a few trees I need to cut down and limb with it, I will update my review after I have used it! Also since I picked up Milwaukee's new M18 Fuel Table Saw that came with a 12.0amp battery I will have three 12.0amp batteries plus I have 2 quick chargers so I doubt I'll ever run out of power lol! Update I got my Milwaukee M18 Fuel Chainsaw and it rocks it's got tons of power and will cut thru trees and tree limbs like a hot knife thru butter and I love how quiet it is and how there is no gas to mess with and no problems trying to start it I can just pop a battery in it and go and the 12.0amp battery will last forever in it and it's also super easy to use but it's not a toy so make sure to read the manual on it before you use it, Milwaukee did a really good job with the manual and in addition to the manual on the machine itself they sent a second manual with it that tells you how to use it and how to cut trees and limbs in all sorts of different situations so props to Milwaukee for sending that information manual with the saw! All in all I would say I got a steal of a deal on it getting the Milwaukee M18 Fuel Chainsaw the 12.0amp battery that comes with it plus a second 12.0amp battery with it for free all for $400!
Where did you get it? I want that deal $345 on A------- is best I can do. Thanks.
Where did you get that deal from? Thanks
Ain't going to lie, I'm pretty new to using gas powered tools, this one being electric. Had no idea I had to oil it... Used it for a couple different house jobs. Did I mess anything up? Really upset at myself for not realizing, I'm blind!
The worse thing you could have done was wore a bit of the chain. A 20 dollar fix. No worries bud. Use some oil and forget about the mistake. You did nothing to the the tool! Enjoy it!
@@WorkshopAddict Thanks for the response, super glad the tool isn't damaged! Just ordered some oil online, should be good to go now haha. SMH
@@DJayAce4 Sometimes it nice to be reassured all is well. Enjoy the tool.
I have this saw and love it ! Can't say enough good points about it !!
Thank you Brian. Great video. I'd previously watched your review of the EGO 16". In your opinion, is this Milwaukee 16" more powerful and have as long or longer run time?
Milwaukee is more powerful. Runtime wise, with EGO's 7.5Ah will outrun this. The 2.5 and 5.0Ah probably not.
Question... I've been reading that wearing chaps doesn't give the same level of protection with a battery powered saw as it does with a gas saw because the battery powered saw doesn't have a clutch. As a result the blade will not necessarily stop quickly when tangled in the chap material. Is there any truth to this?
EOSJOE Where'd you read that? Kevlar chaps will protect you, or at least try to protect you with any saw, length, skip tooth ect shouldn't make any difference
I don't recall where I saw it. That's why I was wondering if you guys had ever heard anything similar - you know, seeing that everything you read on the Internet is true. :-)
So you've used both this and the 60v dewalt. Is the Milwaukee leaps and bounds better or only moderately more powerful? I am invested in both platforms, but don't have any of the new Milwaukee stuff. I have quite a few flexvolt batteries already, but with the current (2) 12.0 battery promotion, I'm thinking about spending the extra $200 to get it.
I have not used the Flexvolt with the 12.0, but the Milwaukee is much more powerful IMHO.
@@WorkshopAddict Yeah, I could tell from the way you talked in the flexvolt video that you weren't very impressed by it. I've been vascillating mainly because of the stupid way DeWalt mounted the bar though. Thanks for responding so quickly to an older video. Have really enjoyed the reviews, keep it up!
@@MyFortressConstruction No Problem! Glad to help.
Can you buy the chain saw as a bare tool??
Yes, look up Milwaukee 2727-20, but the price sucks. Bare: amzn.to/2LI5CN3 Kit: amzn.to/2QUF29c
5:26 @workshopAddict I think you mean Austrian pine, Pinus nigra. Good review
I caught that in editing with no real way to fix it. Thank you.
I wonder when we will get Gen2 and if it will be dual battery...
True i am ok with dual batery i guess its not a tool i will work with everyday . If the dual batery systeme is like with the mower or the blower is would have serious power
Next years they release pouch cell and it will have been 5 years since the fuel cir saw was release i guess they will release more tool along with the pouch cell
If you would have waited for closer to December you could have had a Christmas tree
Daniel Rodriguez LoL, they were full of bugs.....
Wonder how it performs on 5Ah batteries. I have 6 of those and only very small chainsaw jobs, but will it run ?...
Lack of tool-less chain adjuster = good, given that all the tool-less options so far have sucked badly.
Love the blower also! Just like the saw, money is money
Gas you don't have to wait.
Batteries are close but not affordable just yet ..
Great job!
Thanks Kim
Thanks for this. Mine ships from Acme today. Can't wait!
Do I need to order the chain and bar specifically Milwaukee or is it generic where I can get it from home improvement store?
It will use Oregon chains and bars. They can be had anywhere.
Out of all the battery saws you've tried and demoed, do you still think this is the best of them all? If yes, why?
I do still believe it to be the best as it has the most power and torque out of all the saws I have tested with the batteries made at the time of testing. I have not tested the Flexvolt saw with a 12.0 Ah battery, but IMHO, the Dewalt 40-volt trumped that saw anyway. Power, familiarity with a gas saw, VST all made this rock. I was comfortable felling trees with it because I knew it would not stop on me when I needed it.
have you used the EGO 56v chainsaw, just wondering how it compares?
me217 Yes, you can search out our review of both the EGO saws. The EGO saw with the 7.5 Ah will have a longer runtime, but not the power of the Milwaukee.
Have you used Stihl MSA 200C, wondering which one is better? Thx
Can you use the 12 ah battery with the m18 impact wrench
Yes, it is a bit large and heavy, but it will work.
Great review. Will you be checking out the ego 18 inch? Many would be interested to hear a comparison between the 2
Very nice review. I am in m18 platform and just wondering how this saw performs (power and runtime) with a 9.0 battery attached. Combining the 12.0 with the 9.0 runtime results could be interesting. Keep up the good work.
leonidas manouilidis As stated in this video, it will work with all the batteries but we tested it as one saw purchased to do a job and did not test the 9.0... I have to assume it will perform great, just not have the same runtime.
WorkshopAddict i doubt it will work with all batteries I doubt it will work with the smaller batteries.
DrgnFlys so what Willa 2.0 amp your battery run for 30 seconds?
Overheating is a bitch on small batteries.
Crunch9876 i agree. There s a limitation with the smaller batteries. I don t think this chainsaw can make it with anything under a 5.0. Theoretically it might but it won t be that usable. One way or another looks like an excellent tool for what it is.
Bryan,
I commented few months ago about the EGO chainsaw vs the Milwaukee chainsaw. The Milwaukee chainsaw is better than the EGO, no questions asked. I own both platforms and looking for a chainsaw, but not to break the bank. I already have the 5.0AH EGO battery due to my lawnmower and I have 2x 5.0AH Milwaukee batteries. Do you think, as a homeowner who needs his chainsaw for small trees (6-8 inches wide) a couple of times per year, that the Milwaukee with 2x 5.0AH batteries is a good option compared to EGO ? Or should I just get the EGO since I already have the "proper" battery ?
Thanks !
Go Milwaukee as you might expand that brand of tools easier.
@@WorkshopAddict Thank you, this is a good point. I am just wondering if a 5.0AH battery in the Milwaukee chainsaw is a good match and will not overheat or be depleated in 2 minutes. You haven't tested it with a 5.0AH right ? I emailed Milwaukee about this a few days ago, but they didn't get back to me yet. I am planning on buying the tool only to save some bucks since I already have some batteries around. And I don't see myself buying the 9.0 or 12.0AH Milwaukee batteries in the future for what I do at home.
@@SpookyNeo We have not tested it with the 5.0 but we know you will see decreased power. But nothing that your description of use would matter. In the case you do get a string trimmer or other tool, Milwaukee would be the place to be and a larger battery might find its way home with you some day.
Think you could put a 20” Oregon bar/chain on it without any issues?
I’m sure you’ve already got your answer since posting your question 2 years ago but It comes with an Oregon bar.
JUST ORDERED ONE CAN'T!!!
Thanks for the review. Got one coming today and going to put it to use tomorrow.
Is $500 with two batteries and a charger to much closer to 600 after taxes though is that too much money
I mean how is this 18v chainsaw so powerful? Is it the brushless motor?
Matt James It is brushless, but this comes down to watt hours and how they are used.
If you watch "AVE" s review there's a gear box which no other electric chainsaw really has. Also that 12Ah battery can output 1600watts = 15a plug powered saw.
Nice awesome review as always ! Its funny my buddy was just talking about this saw .... Bam and here it is !
If you want into the battery operated saw market, this one rocks!
I'm into the EGO Line love everything i just bought there newest saw wow ! If this is close or better anyone who buys one is gonna be thrilled lol
We too love the EGO line. This tops the current EGO chainsaw by quite a bit.
WorkshopAddict by power ? or runtime ? Both ? See i have 5 batteries so I never seem to run out of battery lol ... I find the EGO burns thew each cut with ease honestly just from the weight of the saw/battery lol this saw seems light weight witch is awesome ! Less getting tired lol see I know a tree guy who uses a ego on the ground at the chipper its faster than starting and stoping a gas saw making small cuts here and there .... His guys would get lazy and bend brush into the chipper really dangerous with there ego they grab cut and boom jobs done ... I bet this saw could change things big time for alot of guys running a chipper ....
JeeperJimbo 1990 Well, with the 7.5 Ah battery from EGO, this Milwaukee will not out last it in runtime, but it will keep up with the 5.0 Ah amazingly. Power, the Milwaukee has a lot more.
I'm curious how a 5ah battery would work just for trimming branches and use the 12ah for the heavy cuts....just a thought
That would work, but you will get a hot 5.0 Ah battery after a while.
Good review! Was this an anyway sponsored by Milwaukee? Like did you did they give you the saw for free, reduced cost, or whatever, for a favorable review?
I cut some limbs with a 2 amp battery less noticeable power worked fine though
How would you say this compares to echos 58v chainsaw since you have reviewed both?
Ryan Jewell I think this kicks the ECHO's butt..... By a long shot. At least in real world feel and power. I felt you had to baby the ECHO through a cut so it did not cut out.
WorkshopAddict good to know!
WorkshopAddict Sorry but tge2 echo will smoke this Chinese crap
Hey Lou, the 58-volt Echo is made by TTI in china. The same company that owns Milwaukee. LOL
Great tool and review ! Just not a tool I have a need for ... yet !
Awesome review I'm going out to buy one next week, thank you !!
Hey Brian how does this compare with the Dewalt 40v saw?
I say at 7:11 that this will outrun and out power the Dewalt 40-volt. Hard to imagine, but of all the saws the Dewalt 40-volt is the closest we have used to this M18.
Great REVIEW. ....can you please REVIEW makita ea7900?
Fedex will be dropping mine off tomorrow!! can't wait
What do you think
How does it compare with the flexvolt?
Almost double the power of the Flexvolt. It is impressive. It also has much more runtime than the Flexvolt. I say that at 7:11
Need to run both with the 12ah batteries too actually see what's what... My father's flexvolt with a 9ah cuts awesome, and in IMO just as fast as this one does from what I can see in the video... Maybe I'm wrong
WorkshopAddict Dude twice the power a little eexaggeration, if it was twice the power or even a little more powerful, trust me if they knew this was more powerful than Dewalth and Makitas chainsaws they would have had them painted gray and went head to head with them, instead they went up against gas chainsaw which both Dewalt and Makita have videos beating gas chainsaws , and from what I see on the video's they look pretty even and the makita looks more powerful than both, please tell me your not drinking the red kool-aid, I was told that Milwaukee is giving free tools out to a lot of tool reviewers on RUclips
Lou Cifer The Makita chainsaw is 12"...... Do you really think they would have put a 12" bar on it if it was the most powerful out? Dewalt, as a company, claims the 40-volt line to be their commercial line and the flexvolt line to be the homeowner line in OPE. So, Yes, I feel this is almost double the power of the flexvolt, but not double the power of the 40-volt. The 40-volt batteries have many more cells for the saw to pull power from than the flexvolt. I stand by what I have said. I have used the saws, you have watched them be used.
WorkshopAddict Pro tool reviews did a battery chainsaw shootout and the 60v flexvolt cut twice as fast as the 40v the only thing the 40v had on the flexvolt was runtime, and the new makita 36 volt has 14in bar
Thank you brian . Looks like my wait for electrical chainsaw is nr :-)
Which one is better? Which one has more power...Milwaukee or EGO???
Milwaukee.
3 yr warranty??? Is Milwaukee famous for 5yrs??.... great review Brian!!! Gonna get me one when they become available in Oz
Qua Phan Yes, this tool has a 3 year battery and 3 year tool warranty. Three years could be a hard life on a well used chainsaw.
Qua Phan let me tell you about warranties, they only warrant the tool if it breaks on proper use of tool, now if you drop that tool and crack that plastic body the warranty is voided, my tool better last longer than the warranty if I use it properly
Warranties are just marketing gimmicks. Good luck getting your tool warrantied.
crunch9876 Milwaukee’s warranty department is actually pretty good. Using either mail in or a supply house that repairs them. Or will just straight give you a new tool. That said though, don’t think you can chain a rock and get a new saw because the gear box broke. Which speaking of, I’m extremely impressed with the metal gear drive. Most saws I’ve seen use a plastic gear as a type of safety feature.
3 year warranty?
Therealphantomzero Yeah, on the tool and battery.... I wondered why not 5 years also.
WorkshopAddict probably because they are targeting pros with this tool and it would be a tool that will be extremely abused. Also first gen.
I have the makita 36v 18x2 chainsaw are they similar in runtime and which do you prefer
I like the Milwaukee better because of power. The Makita was nice, a bit smaller, but cannot stand up to this M18
Unless there is a side by side test, that question is not answered yet.
WorkshopAddict read your comment again becuase it doesn’t make sense. Replace a Milwaukee with the word Makita.
Thanks, corrected.
Just ordered one.
Nice review. Looks like a great chainsaw. Milwaukee is on a roll, lately. I have their string trimmer and 2nd-gen. blower and really like them. I'm very impressed with the trimmer's performance in low speed mode, and its run-time. I rarely ran my 40V Dewalt trimmer in low speed mode. M18 power is no joke.
I agree! The 12Ah battery will be a game changer for OPE! The string trimmer will last a very, very long time with it!
Yes, it is. The 12Ah would be great for the blower, too. I plan on getting one.
I have mixed feelings about this honestly. I like the idea of a battery powered electric saw for lopping limbs and such. It is the price that I take issue with. I run a Stihl MS361 as well for primary cutting. Obviously it isn't going to replace that. However at $400 there are A LOT of other options for drastically less. I rarely am concerned about noise so honestly a smaller Ms250 is just going to be a better choice. If there is a situation I need to be quite there are plenty of 16" electric saws under $150. The drawback to those obviously is the extension cord. I'm just not convinced that cordless is worth the jump from $150 to $400 for really very niche use. Now if this saw were say..around $250 it suddenly becomes a great deal more appealing. Again not knocking its capability, I like its capability. I just feel its price is putting it squarely out of contention with other options.
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To me it's a good price because I already have lots of Milwaukee tools and getting the 12ah battery with it that I can use for other tools also.
Fair enough, I'm just pointing out that for most people who aren't heavily invested in milwaukee the value of this is pretty weak. Again I'm not saying it isn't a good little saw, it seems to be. I'm just questioning the price point.
I just got the chainsaw and two 12 Ah batteries for $399. To me that was an excellent deal!
I'm glad you are working on a smaller trees while you are learning how to fell. Wow you just said you've cut down 1000s? Did you work on a Christmas tree farm or are you just one lucky mother!
Great presentation
Interesting review.
I'd like to see an 18 or 20 inch model from Millwaukee.
It is said that this Millwaukee is the most powerful wireless chainsaw and has the best
run time lithium batteries.
How do you compare this Millwaukee to others like
Green Works & Kobalt 18 inch 80W etc?
Great review looks smooth and strong. Are y'all doing a Milwaukee chainsaw give away?
Maybe..... This Sunday a new one will start but it is a Radio. After that, it will be a Milwaukee tool.
In total honesty I'm a dewalt guy everything I own is dewalt I've spent easily 40k in brand new contractor tools. I own every tool they make and if they come out with something new I buy it. I've never considered buying red anything until doing a side by side test of my dewalt saws vs my buddy's Milwaukee and it's not close. The Milwaukee chainsaw is way better cuts better and hit a home run with having bar nuts and normal set up rather than tooless tensioning. The dewalt chainsaws will break in the oil cap and the tensioner plastic b.s without fail with minimal use. I own the 20vxr the 60v and 40v chainsaws from dewalt and they would be great if they had Milwaukees regular chainsaw setup. I might by a red saw soon and it's gonna stick out in all my yellow. I'm frustrated dewalt didn't just have a normal oil cap and bar nuts like Milwaukee my saws oil caps are broke need new ones. The tensioning system is cool in thought and ingenuity but in real life the tool one is more reliable. Reliance on my tools is my way of life. That's why I buy dewalt tuff every time but this time I got 3 chainsaws that aren't running due to broken bar oil retaining caps. How is that dewalt tuff? .
1000 trees cut? How many planted?
Great question. My grandparents were farmers and we have planted over 26,000 trees over 80 acres. We purchased them all from Vans Pines Nursery when they were 6" tall.
I've probably cut well over a thousand trees too, and only planted a fraction of that. however my family's property is more overgrown now than when i was a kid. it's almost like they plant themselves. come to think of it, I don't remember planting any weeds in the garden.......
When you start with a farm field and only plant 6" trees, they don't plant themselves for a long time!
Thanks for the video, good stuff. Love the unbiased review, see lots of people pre-judge electric tools poorly just because they're electric.
Given the implementation of all the tool less chain tensioning systems thus far, I definitely consider the tool-required setup a bonus.
Great review. Thanks
great vid keep up the great content
When they say," It cuts as well as gas." That's called a marketing gimmick. It looks comparable to a little 20cc powerhead. I have their "Hatchet." You wouldn't want a toolless bar system in that thing. You need to make sure it's dogged down tight. Yes, I'd recommend it. It is expensive, but it's worth saving up for.
I have one as he said it is great
Shootout between Milwaukee, dewalt and makita. Cutting speed, battery life and ergonomics
Milwaukee wins. Shootout over.
I saw this in Home Depot priced at around 550 why would anybody buy this at that price point when a real saw can be baught for the same price btw in Canada
Because a real saw is like a real wife and takes a lot of fussing and babying to keep it happy and running well. This is more like 'rent-a-wife' and is ready to cut as soon as you've got wood ready ;)
I've got a 'real saw' sitting in the shed for the last 30 years. I could have used it several occasions, but I know it'll be a bitch to get cleaned up and started, to say nothing of the mess of getting fuel ready for it, fuel which will sit around and go bad in no time. I actually have made do with a Milwaukee Hackzall for general yard work. It'll delimb a mess of trees on one charge, too.
Most good saws employ a brushless motors and will convert stored electricity to work equally well. The amount of wood you can cut pretty much depends upon the total amount of energy in the battery. Total energy is a product of Volts x Amps. x battery count.
One Milwaukee 18V (nom) 12Ah battery weighs 3.7 lbs. (18)x(12) = 216 watts
One Husqvarna 36V (nom) 4.2 Ah battery weighs 3.21? lbs (36)x(4.2) = 151 watts
Two (2) Makita 18V (nom) 6 Ah batteries weigh 2.7 lbs. (2)x(6)x(12) = 216 watts
One Dewalt 54V (nom, not max) 4Ah battery weighs 3.2 lbs (54)x(4) = 216 watts
One Still with 36V (nom) 4.9 Ah battery weighs 3.8lbs (36)x(4.2) = 178 watts
Any differences observed are minor and related to the bar length, chain type and sharpness and any gear loses (if geared). Milwaukee is among the heaviest @ 14.0 lbs while Makita weighs the least @ 10.1 lbs, both with batteries. 216 watts will cut an impressive amount of wood, about a ¼ pickup load thrown on. I would guess it takes about 800 to 1000 watts for a pickup load. I own a Makita and a bunch of batteries. I have a 12, 14 and 16 inch bar for the saw to use depending on what I’m cutting. I toss about 6 to 8 batteries in my buggy and I am able to fill my small trailer (about ⅔ pickup bed size) and still have batteries to spare. Having a lot of batteries and a lot of chargers is key if you’re cutting firewood.
Not helping, you're making me want one now. Tough part is letting the cheap Stihl I have go away.
Thank you. Good review.
Looks cool. I like gas but to each his own