Thank you, man! At the start of the season, I was really nervous about talking but with your help, I'm now close to 3k io. One of the most helpful content! As an idea, I'd be happy to see some tank guides. About rotation, what to press when "oh shit" moments, and different pulls that different tanks can do. For example, DH can pull a lot of casters with his signals but monk really can't do this. Anyway, thanks again!
No problem at all my friend, that's amazing to hear! Definitely looking to put out a prot paladin (and maybe warrior) tank guide alongside my Guardian Druid one, but I don't want to put out guides where I'm not 100% knowledgeable about the class itself so not totally comfortable doing stuff on VDH or Brew at the moment.
As someone else has mentioned - it's indeed the small pull, due to bolstering. Without bolstering you'd usually pull the entire hallway (so basically combining his first and second pull into one big pull with lust). That's kinda necessary, you don't have a lot of routing options in this dungeon and the timer is getting pretty tight on 23+ when you don't pull like that.
I watch your videos alongside my pocket healer and they've been super helpful as we tend to pug our dps so making sure we got our routes and pulls sorted is a big W. Thanks :D
Its been a great week full of crazy shenanigans. We started by pulling slow like you're talking about but the last day or two we've decided to go for 2 or 3 balls to the walls pulls just to see what happens. My favorite is the full hall of Wyrm tongues. We grab them all pop hero aoe and stun when needed than when its about to get bolstered we vortex into a rescue and kite back the way we came. Between 2 vortexs, 2 typhoons, ring of peace and our stuns we were able to survive. The breath with 14+ bolstering stacks though will one shot tanks so ugh make sure you don't get hit, easy way to tell is if you can't see their heads anymore because they are to big than RUN although by than its probably to late.
I'd say a couple things on Waycrest to do just one Stewards at a time, if you catch the pathing right it's doable to do one per pack. They seriously truck at like a 23 they sync up their swings when you run away for the dinner bell, so instead of an easy 700k+ hit, its doubling and that gets dicey without a defensive. The other in that was to focus down gorgers, they would leap and one shot people if bolstered. Just my two cents :)
Love your guides, but one thing about the MDT strings, can you please add lust points for newer players so we can set that up correctly, just what you recommend. Thanks
We accidentally pulled all the dogs and 3 thorncallers in Waycrest and that was a good time. The thorncallers were 360 no scoping everyone in the group lmao. As the tank I survived by running back into the previous area and LoS’ing them until bolstering fell off. Good times
Another mob we had some deaths on in Blackrook were the spiders around the spiral stairs after the 1st boss. The big ones got bolstered and nuked our tank :P Is it better to pull them back down to the empty room? (can't remember if they are all one big group or if we can pull one at a time)
The big one should only get bolstered if you pull to the top of the staircase and kill some of the patrolling mobs, the little spiders don't apply on-death affixes luckily so they aren't an issue. Pulling down the stairs is generally a bit safer as you can split the little spiders into 2 groups, because despite not Bolstering they do stack up the magic DoT extremely fast which is very scary for tanks.
Hey Tactyks, i cannot figure out how you are supposed to skip G25 in Everbloom ( the patrol at the end of the invis skip). Its always in the way when we get there, what am i missing here? Thanks in advance, huge fan keep it up man!
Most likely not running far enough forward before invising, sometimes if you have a really bad patrol at the start you have to wait a bit but you should be able to run a decent bit hugging the right wall before you need to use your invis.
@@Tactyks Just tried it again and failed the skip lol im wondering if you run evoker in your group in everbloom? We do not and bronze attunement is a nice 10% movement speed buff. Also found a clip in this video here with maximums group ruclips.net/video/sXU0hnRUXf8/видео.html. They have an evoker and are def. moving faster than normal walking speed.
@@Whs1214 I hadn't considered the evoker raid buff, could be a small but significant difference maybe. Any form of personal or group speed at your disposal would easily close this gap though!
Tactyks please help. Is there anything I can do as a tank to help my team not die on the huge tank add that mortar and sappers in Rise? Always… my pugs die so much there.
I talk about it a bit in my +20 Rise walkthrough, but outside of using the CC in your kit on the sappers the positioning to dodge the mortars is mostly on the targeted player. Rise video: ruclips.net/video/BjROfQ0o5_o/видео.html
As a healer, you basically don't. It's kinda like bursting. If dps fuck up, dps fucked up and you just have to accept your fait. Tanks have to adjust their routing/pulls, while also having to occasionally implement kiting and dps have to adjust to NOT blowing up small mobs up while basically just cleaving priority targets, passively bolstering them into being a 4 raid bosses and rather focus priority targets, while cleaving down low threat targets). The only thing you, as a healer, can do against bolstering is to remind your team of bolstering and maybe throw down some kind of CC on high bolstering targets. Like an aoe stun or a slow, so the tank has an easier time kiting. So instead of throwing out all of your CC at the start of the pull, save it for the time some mobs have died and bolstered other mobs. Not everything is a healer mechanic and not every death is the healers fault. As a tank (especially as a bdk), I also hate the combination of fortified and bolstering but I'm still playing this week. It's definitely not a push week but it's still a week you can potentially learn something from.
As Draghful said, it's not really on the healer so you're kind of at the mercy of both the tank and dps, best you can do is be aware of what might kill people as mobs start to die and use your CC kit or throw out externals on players in danger of being one-shot to try and save them.
Man, I truly hate bolstering. I had a tank pull TWO tainted sentries on top of a pack of gilgoblins. Like bruh... Are you insane? It's literally impossible. Same dungeon, he pulls two faceless watchers, two seers, and the squids before the boss. With all the grips and stuff on the ground, i had no time at all to cast and obviously the watchers get bolstered to infinity at the end.
Hey as long as the tank is alive to keep the pull going... I do kind of want to see if I can get a sentry to be big enough you can't see the entire model anymore.
@@Tactyks tbh keys are so ez that the week u play is the week u push . And tyrannical weeks are just harder overall than any fortified weeks . Last tier doing 24 on a random week with pugs were nightmare his week I did all my 22s in pugs no problem
I usually do too, then you get someone who tells you to pull big and then someone does pull big… and then you wipe cause people can’t bind their kicks lol
@@neftaherrera5540 there was one run in Shadowlands I healed the tank assigned kicks for one pull, and the one dps said “hold on let me get that on my bar.” Wait what, are you saying you WERENT going to kick?
I don't recall saying it does, the issue is that when you have a mix of high hp and low hp mobs, you tend to bolster the high hp ones if you don't have good priority target damage.
I hate bolstering this week, but god! it makes for some hilarious moments when running with friends and pugs
OH GOD IT HAS 8 BOLSTERING STACKS RUN FOR YOUR LIFE
Thank you, man! At the start of the season, I was really nervous about talking but with your help, I'm now close to 3k io. One of the most helpful content!
As an idea, I'd be happy to see some tank guides. About rotation, what to press when "oh shit" moments, and different pulls that different tanks can do. For example, DH can pull a lot of casters with his signals but monk really can't do this. Anyway, thanks again!
No problem at all my friend, that's amazing to hear! Definitely looking to put out a prot paladin (and maybe warrior) tank guide alongside my Guardian Druid one, but I don't want to put out guides where I'm not 100% knowledgeable about the class itself so not totally comfortable doing stuff on VDH or Brew at the moment.
Thanks man. As a casual who just does 20's I appreciate it
No problem, happy to help!
Lmao casual and 20s dont go together dude. I havent met a single casual being able to do 20s yet or even get invited to one.
I was about to say that lol casual to me is 15 or less
I also thought 20+ was casual to be honest, I only see players with 2800 rating or more which requires 20 at least no?@marcelrodriguez2067
as a guy who pugs alot. i think ill just skip bolster week. its... depressing.
It’s the worst when the tank is like wtf healer… I’m like bro 🫠
Next week is EVEN BETTER .....
@@sps3r654 😵
As a guy who does not pug a ton, I will also be skipping bolstering week hahaha
@@Tactyks 🤣🤣🤣💀
Bro that first pull you have for tot is crazy😳 if thats your normal pulls on 20s-23s , geeze your a beast
GOTTA PULL BIG
@Tactyks Cowabunga!
That's the small pull
@@nikoninen I'll have you know it's a perfectly average sized pull
As someone else has mentioned - it's indeed the small pull, due to bolstering. Without bolstering you'd usually pull the entire hallway (so basically combining his first and second pull into one big pull with lust). That's kinda necessary, you don't have a lot of routing options in this dungeon and the timer is getting pretty tight on 23+ when you don't pull like that.
o7 to anybody pugging Everbloom on bolstering lmao
Banned dungeon for sure
I watch your videos alongside my pocket healer and they've been super helpful as we tend to pug our dps so making sure we got our routes and pulls sorted is a big W. Thanks :D
That's awesome, glad I could help you two out!
Its been a great week full of crazy shenanigans. We started by pulling slow like you're talking about but the last day or two we've decided to go for 2 or 3 balls to the walls pulls just to see what happens. My favorite is the full hall of Wyrm tongues. We grab them all pop hero aoe and stun when needed than when its about to get bolstered we vortex into a rescue and kite back the way we came. Between 2 vortexs, 2 typhoons, ring of peace and our stuns we were able to survive. The breath with 14+ bolstering stacks though will one shot tanks so ugh make sure you don't get hit, easy way to tell is if you can't see their heads anymore because they are to big than RUN although by than its probably to late.
The best is when the wyrmtongue gets the buff that makes them huge on top of being giga bolstered hahaha.
Some of the mobs that give bolstering is just dumb imo.
Those damn everbloom flowers triggering on death is so stupid
Yeah, things like everbloom flowers and waycrest dogs should definitely not apply on-death affixes.
100% I dont imagine Blizz change these types of things midweek? This is my first patch playing WoW retail@@Tactyks
@@LewisLogan Usually not, the hope is a Tuesday hotfix but they may just leave it like that the whole season.
Fortified bolstering is so awful to play. Did a 20BRH and boy did we only just time the key with a pretty high ilvl/io group
Yep it's super rough, hoping it gets a big look in the War Within.
As a pug player this sucks, healing on bolstering is fun sometimes especially when you see people get oneshotted in a non reactive mechanic 😂
Then you get the "healer?" in chat
@@Tactyks actually I have not, but usually we do get all the blame 😂
I'd say a couple things on Waycrest to do just one Stewards at a time, if you catch the pathing right it's doable to do one per pack. They seriously truck at like a 23 they sync up their swings when you run away for the dinner bell, so instead of an easy 700k+ hit, its doubling and that gets dicey without a defensive. The other in that was to focus down gorgers, they would leap and one shot people if bolstered. Just my two cents :)
Yeah having 2 bolstered Stewards is definitely a bad time as a tank hahaha
Don't forget to pull every apprentice on the Pyromancer in Everbloom to make that salvo spicy
Of course, gotta give the healer something to do!
One of my favorite troll moves.
I love tanking but no matter what I do this weeks makes me not want to log in lol. So unfun pulling small.
Yup, hoping for some big changes to bolstering (and maybe affixes in general) moving into the War Within!
Same for playing fury warrior. If cds aren't used, damage is low, but popping cds on 3 mobs isn't good by any stretch
Love your guides, but one thing about the MDT strings, can you please add lust points for newer players so we can set that up correctly, just what you recommend. Thanks
Good call, definitely something I can do moving forward (if I remember haha)!
@@Tactyks i share all your guides on my discord and i noticed they are missing, would be awesome
We accidentally pulled all the dogs and 3 thorncallers in Waycrest and that was a good time. The thorncallers were 360 no scoping everyone in the group lmao. As the tank I survived by running back into the previous area and LoS’ing them until bolstering fell off. Good times
LMAO yeah still not sure why those dogs can do on-death affixes, feels really bad on bursting weeks as well.
lol
good routes. I'd rather just not push this week though, and weeklies for vault are easy enough
Amen
Another mob we had some deaths on in Blackrook were the spiders around the spiral stairs after the 1st boss. The big ones got bolstered and nuked our tank :P Is it better to pull them back down to the empty room? (can't remember if they are all one big group or if we can pull one at a time)
The big one should only get bolstered if you pull to the top of the staircase and kill some of the patrolling mobs, the little spiders don't apply on-death affixes luckily so they aren't an issue. Pulling down the stairs is generally a bit safer as you can split the little spiders into 2 groups, because despite not Bolstering they do stack up the magic DoT extremely fast which is very scary for tanks.
Hey Tactyks, i cannot figure out how you are supposed to skip G25 in Everbloom ( the patrol at the end of the invis skip). Its always in the way when we get there, what am i missing here? Thanks in advance, huge fan keep it up man!
Most likely not running far enough forward before invising, sometimes if you have a really bad patrol at the start you have to wait a bit but you should be able to run a decent bit hugging the right wall before you need to use your invis.
@@Tactyks Just tried it again and failed the skip lol im wondering if you run evoker in your group in everbloom? We do not and bronze attunement is a nice 10% movement speed buff. Also found a clip in this video here with maximums group ruclips.net/video/sXU0hnRUXf8/видео.html. They have an evoker and are def. moving faster than normal walking speed.
@@Whs1214 I hadn't considered the evoker raid buff, could be a small but significant difference maybe. Any form of personal or group speed at your disposal would easily close this gap though!
Imagine having to not pad and kill the prio target... Its almost like you should be doing this every week
But my overall!
I did yesterday a +21 manor. It was so hard to heal 😭 but we did it
LETS GOOOO
Tactyks please help. Is there anything I can do as a tank to help my team not die on the huge tank add that mortar and sappers in Rise? Always… my pugs die so much there.
I talk about it a bit in my +20 Rise walkthrough, but outside of using the CC in your kit on the sappers the positioning to dodge the mortars is mostly on the targeted player.
Rise video: ruclips.net/video/BjROfQ0o5_o/видео.html
i did +14 WM today healing and i dont understand how to handle bolstering. i will skip bolstering this week
As a healer, you basically don't. It's kinda like bursting. If dps fuck up, dps fucked up and you just have to accept your fait. Tanks have to adjust their routing/pulls, while also having to occasionally implement kiting and dps have to adjust to NOT blowing up small mobs up while basically just cleaving priority targets, passively bolstering them into being a 4 raid bosses and rather focus priority targets, while cleaving down low threat targets).
The only thing you, as a healer, can do against bolstering is to remind your team of bolstering and maybe throw down some kind of CC on high bolstering targets. Like an aoe stun or a slow, so the tank has an easier time kiting. So instead of throwing out all of your CC at the start of the pull, save it for the time some mobs have died and bolstered other mobs.
Not everything is a healer mechanic and not every death is the healers fault.
As a tank (especially as a bdk), I also hate the combination of fortified and bolstering but I'm still playing this week. It's definitely not a push week but it's still a week you can potentially learn something from.
As Draghful said, it's not really on the healer so you're kind of at the mercy of both the tank and dps, best you can do is be aware of what might kill people as mobs start to die and use your CC kit or throw out externals on players in danger of being one-shot to try and save them.
@@Tactyks did +14 EB few deaths but overall good group. Roll dice on group when bolstering.
Man, I truly hate bolstering. I had a tank pull TWO tainted sentries on top of a pack of gilgoblins. Like bruh... Are you insane? It's literally impossible.
Same dungeon, he pulls two faceless watchers, two seers, and the squids before the boss. With all the grips and stuff on the ground, i had no time at all to cast and obviously the watchers get bolstered to infinity at the end.
Hey as long as the tank is alive to keep the pull going... I do kind of want to see if I can get a sentry to be big enough you can't see the entire model anymore.
Tbh i did most keys this week🤣 but it was fucking miserable
Hahaha yeah I tend to avoid bolstering week myself honestly, nice little vacation :P
@@Tactyks tbh keys are so ez that the week u play is the week u push . And tyrannical weeks are just harder overall than any fortified weeks . Last tier doing 24 on a random week with pugs were nightmare his week I did all my 22s in pugs no problem
Skip gnarlroot. Always.
Would definitely rather play gnarlroot than bolstered aboms imo
As a pug tank I just take like 2 packs at a time max no way I’m ever pulling more no matter what week it is. Can’t rely on anyone.
I usually do too, then you get someone who tells you to pull big and then someone does pull big… and then you wipe cause people can’t bind their kicks lol
Yup exactly , then they say trash tank and leave when the tank had 30 interrupts and the dps have like 3 interrupts 😅
@@neftaherrera5540 there was one run in Shadowlands I healed the tank assigned kicks for one pull, and the one dps said “hold on let me get that on my bar.” Wait what, are you saying you WERENT going to kick?
louder plz sir and thanks
New mic soon!
Bolstering doesn't increase HP.
I don't recall saying it does, the issue is that when you have a mix of high hp and low hp mobs, you tend to bolster the high hp ones if you don't have good priority target damage.
5.89m oneshot today from a wasp in Everbloom 🥲
One heal??