WandaVision 1x9 FINALE REACTION!! "The Series Finale"
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024
- Eric, Rick, Calvin and Aaron react to and discuss Season 1 Episode 9 of Wandavision - "The Series Finale" - #WandaVision
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1 question where is agathas bunny ?
Marvel OFFICIALLY erased AOS from timeline by changing the Darkhold Book.
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Disappointed by Quicksilver reveal. BUT he does live over a WITCHES DUNGEON
Monica got her powers because she was snapped and went through the Hex. So her powers are not dependant on the Hex.
Ghost Rider is only one who actually can beat Scarlet witch who is in this universe
That Evan peters theory might actually be something because I didn’t really understand why someone would keep a poster with there face and name on it just lying as if you don’t kno your own ? It just seems weird that whole seen I feel like it has more to it that we missed and will pick back up in the next marvel subject
For those who don’t know Strange’s theme played when Wanda was reading the Darkhold.
What a clever way of hinting at doctor strange without an actual appearance
@Honest more advance astral reading ? Because she is not sleeping like doctor strange
I'm sure that that shot was Sam Raimi's shot. So, we'll se that scene again in Doctor Strange 2.
That's a very nice touch!!
@@ghifari.zeroone maybe. Agatha did say Wanda was more powerful than Strange
Paul Bettany trolled all of us when he said the cameo is someone he wanted to always work with, when all along he was talking about himself "white vison" LMAO
I applaud that kind of trolling.
@@thewerewolff7248 facts he's a legend lmao, people over-theorizing can fck themselves lol
@@TheToxicMegacolon Over-theorizing is fine. It's when people get mad at the show for their own theories not coming true.
🎶It was Bettany all along 🎶
@@blahhblahhblahhpoo
Yeah pretty much. Getting mad their theories aren’t correct is essentially a form of fan entitlement and let’s face it a little bit of a bruised ego. It makes them feel silly that they connected imaginary dots and so they blame the show for not following their theory. It’s not THEIR fault they got their theory wrong it’s the show’s fault. They thought it was going to go one way so it SHOULD go that way if it doesn’t it’s not good. Don’t get me wrong it’s a little disappointing but I still loved this finale. Too many people are judging it based on this finale ISN’T instead of actually judging it based on what it IS.
For those who don’t know: The Darkhold was written by Chthon, the God of Chaos. The Darkhold is a book of spells. It provides the reader the instructions to make their desires come true, written in the language the reader would fully understand. The instructions guide the reader to their ultimate goal by showing them how to build items, some of which harness energy from other dimensions.
However, the secondary ability of the book is to corrupt the reader's mind and create a dangerous obsession over the Darkhold. Most people who use the Darkhold's spells fall under Chthon's mental control as a result. Only humans with great spiritual strength like Dr Strange can successfully resist this mental enslavement.
Since Wanda created the twins with chaos magic, and in the end credit scenes she can hear them, my guess is: they are in the same dimension as Chthon, so when she tries to rescue them, se will release Chthon, and he will be the big bad on Dr. Strange 2. And belive me, this mf is a PROBLEM.
A list of Chthon powers: dark and chaos magic, telepaty, mystic patron (He can also send his power out of that dimension), demonic possession, he has an extraordinary knowledge of the dark mystical forces, and cataloged the evil spells of the demonic Elder Gods, Energy Projection & Absorption, Invisibility, Illusion Creation, Density Control, Regeneration, Force Field Creation, Invulnerability, Levitation, Magic, Matter Absorption, All-Speak, Light Projection, Precognition, Reality Manipulation and Warping, Telepathy, Telekinesis, Time Manipulation, Teleportation, Stealth, Soul Absorption, Size Manipulation, Probability Manipulation, Postcognition, Shape-Shifting, Darkforce Manipulation....
So chthon is the Marvel version of Lovecraftian horror, yeah? I'm all about that, let's fucking go
The Darkhold has also already appeared in the MCU by way of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.! Love seeing that tie-in.
@@093_ So basically God...got it
She could also have made a “deal” with the book for her desire (her kids back) to come true and this opens up doors for the multiverse so that she could take her kids from another universe where her children were real. This needs to have something to do with the multiverse for-most probably Spider-Man 3, and Multiverse of Madness-to happen. IDK, I don’t really know the Darkhold as much since I only read Daredevil and Batman comics lmao!
Hayward: Wanda is the villain
Also Hayward: I'm gonna shoot two kids now
1*
@@Robin-be1zm you blind bro?
Eh, two kids who just froze and disarmed and entire squad of FBI agents in defense of their mother who at the time was still holding an entire town hostage.
I mean Hayward himself was a massive douchebag, and WE the audience know that, but honestly I'm slightly confused what he was actually arrested for cause I'm not sure what he did that was explicitly illegal.
@@AnthonyBC93 he shot in between them at first and then only at billy
@@Wolf6119 Umm, murder attempt over two kids maybe?
Elizabeth Olsen never claimed “the Luke Skywalker level cameo” it was taken out of context by a gajillion different headlines.
As a general rule, headlines are bullshit (and often not written by the author of the article) so that totally tracks.
(the problem with click-bait is, it works - if we all stopped clicking, they'd stop doing it)
Yeah if I remember the actual quote from her mouth was just a yes answer to a vague question asked.
I only know about it because of comments. I always thought it was quicksilver and had no idea what people were expecting when they kept going on about it after quicksilver showed up.
@@anonymes2884 Indeed. Heck, sometimes clickbait articles manage to cause massive repercussions with the truth eventually getting buried under piles of lies (specifically referring to the false notion that LucasFilm employees labeled all TLJ haters as racists, sexists and misogynists as the original interview didn’t say that).
Visions conversation is probably one of my favourite moments in the MCU.
One of the great things about it is, you could only really do it with _him_ - no other Avenger, hell, no other hero in the MCU full stop, would end a dispute by having a discussion about the philosophy of identity.
@@anonymes2884 Yeah, as we saw with Cap they didn't stop fighting, the young Cap only thought about Bucky and not the fight so he was knocked out. Only Vision would stop for a discussion, especially since he wants to understand his programming
The white Vision has the memories of the original but not the associated feelings to go with them so it kinda makes sense that he's a completely different Vision.
And without the mind stone is emotionless. He's the white Vision of the comics and doesn't care about Wanda.
Do his arc in the future is similar to Data from Star Trek TNG. An android that wants to become human, or in WV's case, to understand the what these memories made him feel.
@@patricerodriguez9763 Not true. Vision can have emotions without the stone. The "Best part of him" are not the stone as Banner said in IW.
And yet the bit of mindstone in Wanda seems to hold the soul of vision (which is tied to the mindstone). So it’s still possible that vision is soul could be returned to the more machine Vision
"There is an ineffable quality to memory, which I do not believe can survive your procedure." - Data
Can we just mention for a second just how DAMN GOOD Elizabeth Olsen was in this show?
She's born to play Scarlet Witch
Literally everyone was amazing. Paul bettany. Chathrine hahn. This show needs a big bag full of emmys...
@@nicksouthwell9393 a whole sack full of emmys
@@nicksouthwell9393 even freaking Norm in episode 5! The way he was so panicked & pleading for help one second, and completely calm and back in character the next second was great! Everyone was just amazing!
Coulson: "Ima need that book"
Wanda: "no its mine now"
Coulson: *turns into ghost rider*
Wanda: that's cute.
Also Coulson: I am a robot with super strength. I will physically fight you.
Also Wanda: Bitch please.
Im not the one who's asking
Wait Coulson is the ghost rider now? Wot?
@@a3-radio He was briefly in Agents of Shield
Everyone else: literally dying and fighting their enemies using powers.
Darcy: ice cream truck goes brrrrr
She did that to Hayward. Calm down
Ice Cream Truck:
Everybody: DARCY!?
*funnel cake truck :)
Well technically it she was in an armored military truck made to look like an ice cream truck. Remember, the appearance may change but the material does not.
What an absolutely incredible character study about grief and loss with one super-powerful being. Elizabeth Olsen deserves all the awards cause she absolutely killed it in this show. I was pretty skeptical back in January before the show started mainly due to the fact that the MCU hadn't really successfully developed characters' romantic relationships, besides Wanda and Vision and they were always relegated to like the C story in Civil War and Infinity War, but Marvel absolutely nailed this show. Hats off to Fiege, Matt Shakman, and the writers for tackling such a topic as grief for sitcom-style television; and to Olsen, Bettany, and Hahn for fabulous performances in a fantastic show.
PERIOD!!!!
I actually think the mcu had done a great job at developing romantic relationships with Tony and Pepper as well as Peggy and Steve. What would that be? Like a 50% hit rate or something? The Thor and Jane relationship isn’t too bad in the first Thor film and Lang with Hope is just fun though yeah neither of those are fleshed out a whole lot and really deeply explored or tested to a great degree but I mean really the only ones I didn’t care for in the mcu were Hulks with Betty and then Natasha tbh.
I assumed "Dottie" had a timid delivery because she was scared of Wanda. It reminded me of that Twilight Zone episode where everyone walks on eggshells around that kid who can grant his own wishes. They are all super indulgent so he doesn't turn them into, like, a jack in the box.
What they’re afraid of is being banished into a cornfield that stretches on for infinite space with no means of escape including death.
That Twilight Zone episode still gives me nightmares.
I hated that kid!
His name was Bart Simpson.
Idk if this is what you're talking about but I saw an episode of a show like that with a man who could make anything happen, and everyone even his family were scared of him. He had a daughter and both of them would send people away if they didn't agree with them. At the end it is shown that they were living in a town that man himself created, and they make the whole place go away before going to live in the real world it was crazy but like it had major wandavision vibes
Marvel fans with Evan peters: “it’s Mephisto!!” Marvel: lol boner
Big bruh
Viewers: *Understandable, have a great day*
Another thing too that we have to realize is that it’s been 5 years with no Sorcerer Supreme, and it’s only been 3 weeks since Strange came back. It would make the most sense that he probably was involved in the clean up of the endgame battle but also I’m sure any and all mystical threats and beings were aware that he was gone and took that opportunity to basically do whatever without the worry of him stopping them, I’m sure at this point he has a shit ton on his plate, therefore he might have sensed what was going on but couldn’t do anything about it at that time
This is the same case with Thor in Thor 1 when Asgard got isolated. Thor was busy fixing the other realms.
Strange might not even be the sorcerer supreme at this point. They wouldn’t leave a void for five years. He might be trying to get his job back!
@@lovinlorne just like how Wakanda wouldnt of went without a King for 5 years and although the royal family was blipped, those with Royal blood could challenge the throne and MBaku survived the snap so he should actually be King and Black Panther.
This is what Hellstrom should have been: the son of Satan protecting a Sorcerer Supreme-less Earth from demonic forces.
good point
Monica’s eyes
Brown- regular Monica
Blue - electricity
Yellow - transparency
Purple - senses magic
I assumed yellow = kinetic energy
The color represents the different energy she's sensing/feeling/being
I think the purple was just her being taken over by Agatha
@@dasaunmcclinton68 It’s not her being “taken over”, it’s her sensing Agatha’s magic. See where she removes Fake Pietro’s necklace-her eyes turn purple, and upon sensing Agatha’s magic, removes Pietro’s necklace to remove the spell on him.
@@dasaunmcclinton68 Apparently she can become/absorb all types of energy she comes to understand. I guess in the MCU its the energy she comes into contact with/processes. Her eyes turning purple was showing her body processing Agatha's magic
@@barbaricmustard I second that.her eyes turned yellow when she percieved a speeding bullet
Then the real, real villain is Hayworth. He manipulated Wanda's situation to exacerbate her grief to a level that caused her powers to veer out of control for his twisted ends. By Wanda's reaction to Vision we saw she was capable of rational behavior. If she was not exposed to them taking him apart she would've been sad but fine. He meant to drive her over the edge to get her to resurrect Vision. He's the true villain. Wanda was a byproduct.
Me watching the end credit scenes: "Oh this is nice. It's good to see Wanda like this-oh this is not nice anymore!"
Hah, same. Thinking "Oh good for her, take some time in nature to properly heal and... OK never mind" :).
The worst possible outcome... Someone not overcoming a problem, just learning how to hide it better.
I thought exact same lol but when u hear her kids crying out for help that made me go back to thinking ok shes not the villain here somethings going on and shes gonna need Stranges help to save them
😂 i thought the same thing like " aw, this is nice. Wanda looks content 😊"
To
"oh shit"
@@commanderludwig6009 well it seems to be following the house of m story line somewhat she isn't able to get her kids back no more mutants blah blah blah the only way they came back was because they were reincarnated. Wanda does regain sanity but she is an antagonist for awhile.
Something I noticed. Everyone who had all their powers taken were skeletal, we even saw Wanda start to go ashy. But Agatha still looked herself, so my guess is that Wanda merely depowered her instead of take all her powers. I mean, to take them all would have killed Agatha and Wanda is not a murderer.
She also probably trapped Agatha in the mental prison because outside the hex no one knows about Agatha. She's a trump card for Wanda to use later, probably in Dr Strange 2 honestly. Handing her over to the government means she can't access Agatha and well Dr Strange and them would probably condemn Agatha for her crimes to a far worse fate. She is a dark witch.
And Wanda had no reason to believe the government would be able to handle Agatha, as far as she is aware magic is unknown to them. Also she probably doesnt trust them after Hayward. So better to quarantine Agatha herself
I don't think Agatha is stripped of her powers, but she doesn't know she can access them because of the mental identity Wanda gave her. I know it appears like Wanda absorbed Agatha's power, but similar effects occur when Wanda creates vision for the first time.
@@FuryOfTheSwarm Yeah, and Wanda only absorbed back her own power, there was no purple/black or blue power being sucked into wanda
@@Ghilannugs Agreed, i'm glad they went that route, it permits Agatha more involvement in the story, I hope she and Hela return in the future.
In the comics she was also the baby sitter of Franklin Richards, so they will probably use the character in the background of future series and movies and maybe bring her into the FF series of movies down the line.
“Thank you for choosing me as your mom” was just a sweet way of saying she felt privileged to be their mom. You guys are reading WAY too much into it lol
"Is agatha bad?"
BRUH.
she choked children and killed a puppy and laughed about it.
Killed her coven including her mother and implied she goes around taking witches magic
She also bit a kid once
and forced wanda to relive her past and all the trauma she went through just cause she was curious how she came to be.
Yeah, that definitely felt like a hot take by Rick. haha
but without her, Wanda wouldn't even consider freeing the town of WestView
Ok so literally no one noticed how they kinda nodded to the incredibles when the family teamed up. They even have their own dash for fuck sakes
I noticed!
Reminded me of Spy Kids first 😂😂
That's exactly what I thought
They were watching incredibles in a theater in one of the episodes
I mean the Incredibles are just a nod to the fantastic 4, which is Marvel. So its just come full circle.
I viewed Emma Caufield’s (Dottie) performance as pleading to her tormenter with kindness used to mask her fear. My girl can play with your boys if you like the story. I’ll be your friend if you let her free. To her captor.
So, the pleading was genuine, but while frightened while trying to not show it.
I feel like rick is somewhat biased in the discussion.
I can understand calling wanda the villain, to which she is both victim and villain to herself.
But calling Agatha Harkness, the one that killed her entire coven, killed sparky, and was only here to gain power from someone having a mental breakdown, you're saying THAT is the hero?
If anything, hex vision is the hero.
He directly challenged wanda for the awful things she did.
He freed white vision.
Exactly, i was like "what the fuck are you talking about??". And didn't Agatha control Ralph? The word "hero" was such a stretch lol. Does he not like Wanda or something. Cause i feel like he has a habit of being biased sometimes...
Robbie Reyes be like "I thought I took that mf'n book to Hell, damnit"
Instead it's now been taken by three different witches. Dude sucks at his one job.
Morgan Le Fay in Runaways: Just snatches it.
It's been a rough five years.
@@toqkaizogou1636 The three witches in Macbeth would be proud of Morgan Le Fay, Agatha and Wanda.
@@thespectaculargamernerd8114 Morgan Le Fay: Heehee, this is my favourite bedtime story.
Darcy said back in the earlier episodes that the mutations that Monica had would be permanent. It wasn't just part of a spell. She was changed on a cellular level.
Wanda:
Agatha: "Hey, I stopped dodging...are you even trying to hit me?"
Wanda: "NO!"
Agatha: "The hell do you mean 'no'?"
Agatha:
Agatha: "Oh. Ohhhhh. Shit."
Wanda: "HELLZONE GRENADE!"
Agatha: "Awww it even has a cool name."
@@Strife49c *E X P L O S I O N*
YEEESSSSS
Dayum, literally nobody noticed that necklace Ralphietro wore throughout every single episode he appeared in.
Yeah you’re right, it’s been there the whole time. Damn.
Still find that soo stupid, why does Marvel hate Quicksilver 😭😭
@@benchapman3788 Because they already have a Quicksilver. And it makes no sense for him to be the new Quicksilver.
i remember seeing it in the halloween episode and going ‘huh. doesn’t really seem like his vibe but ok’ and here we are lmao
I wrote it in comments on two popular theory channels but got no replies or interaction so... :) After seeing him with it still on post-credit scene in Ep.7 I knew that's how she was mind-controlling him. Though I was still on the ship of he's "Fox Universe Pietro" back then.
I think "villain" is a bit too strong of a word for Wanda. Villain typically implies one is deliberately evil whereas Wanda is, at least originally, completely unaware of what she'd done.
Things become a bit more gray as time goes on and Wanda becomes aware but on the onset I wouldn't say she's the villain. Antagonist? Sure. That's the word I'd use.
Even antagonist doesn’t fit in every way. In some of the episodes she is structured very much as the protagonist, both early on and in episodes 8 and 9. It’s a very tricky show to pigeonhole, and the characters in it are also difficult to pigeonhole. That’s a lot of why I love it so much! It makes me a little sad to see people rushing to shove everyone in WandaVision into the “superhero” and “villain” boxes we normally see in superhero movies and TV shows.
Yeah I think that Rick is looking at this situation as black and white when there is tons of gray.
Even when we get to episode 7 and she's fully aware that she created the alternate reality, she still doesn't know the residents of Westview are suffering under her spell. She thought their lives were as idyllic as hers up until Agatha "cut the strings."
@@brandonjuno Totally. It harkoned back to House of M when Wanda was freaking out at the end, upset that even when she gave everyone the lives they wanted, they were still unhappy.
Wanda is the cause for thanos winning in IW. So I'd say she's a villain. Just doesn't know
Man that reveal of her turning onto the Scarlet Witch with the new outfit and the 🔥🔥 music score is one of my favorite Mcu moments all time. I think this sets her up to be one of the greatest characters we’ve ever had as one of the pillars of the next phase of storytelling
Tingles in my jingles, every time I see it.
@@W0NK042 same, it literally could not have been done better. The twist with the runes was so good too
@@jaydee7257 I don’t think Christophe Beck has gotten enough credit for Wanda’s theme. It’s so hauntingly beautiful and mysterious. Gives me chills every time.
@@mesajarjarbinks9747 without a doubt, his ant man themes are so fun but seeing him get to birth a new theme for a massive character and tie so much darkness and sadness into that theme has me super impressed. Elizabeth Olsen and Paul Bettanys brilliant acting matched with Christophe’s love/sad themes has been incredible
YES. Wanda really is one of the best characters in the MCU. No matter what role she takes as hero, villain, or neutral i feel that she will be one of the most understandable and simpathetic MCU characters out there.
The one who said Agatha did not do anything bad how could you not avenge sparky
But then again, Sparky wasn't real
@@tracerjames51 Agnes could transform animals but not create life so Sparky was probably a cockroach or something but my head Canon will be that Sparky was the beekeeper
@Lazy Lajdak But it's also a very classic sitcom storyline and the dog very well could have been created for that plot
@@chrisf5828 I mean you don't gotta use magic to kill a dog man 🥲
@@tracerjames51 Everything in the hex is real. Vision was real and her kids were real. They didn’t stop existing at the end of the show because they were fake. She had to kill her kids and Vision to set the town free. How did you not understand that? That was why the ending was sad and so much time was spent saying goodbye and why her kids still exist in another realm or dimension at the end credit scene.
"All Visons are Visons" My Mind: "All Visions are Kings!" "If he functions, he's a BOT!"
Nice one.
People are mad that Doctor Strange wasn't here, but at the final credits scene, Doctor Strange's theme plays. Listen closely. It's pretty cool.
People that get mad about that stuff confuse me.
Validate my predictions and wants or it'll suck.
Eh, I'm perfectly happy that Wanda and her family and friends had to solve this particular problem by themselves. This was their story, after all.
I definitely preferred that end credit scene to one with dr strange cause we got twins voices and that is like the biggest cliff hanger and it makes everyone way more excited for dr strange 2
I much prefer the fact that we get a subtle nod to him whilst still focusing on Wanda
I Love people getting mad over something that the show never implied having. It's arrogant as hell.
I don't think Monica was saying what Wanda gave up superceded the lives of the townspeople. Wanda didn't have to give it up and do the right thing and return to those people what she took. But she ultimately wanted to make things right, and she had to sacrifice her own family to do that.
I feel like I've heard moms say that "thank you for chosing me" line. It's more of a soulmates kind of thing, like their little baby spirits chose them. I think that's what she meant.
Sidenote: we never did find out who this guy the feds were looking for in the beginning.
I kind of figure if we can forgive Tony Stark for being a war profiteer and creating Ultron which killed many people and caused a Sokovian city to fall out of the sky, we can forgive Wanda eventually.
Exactly, because some dumbasses are trying to make look Wanda a villains again. Did they watch the last episode? ITS ABOUT FORGIVENESS AND DOIN THE RIGHT THING.
@@zoser595 Even more importantly. The Hex wasn't an accident born from carelessness, it was an accident born out of something Wanda had no control over or knowledge of.
Yes, Tony took good actions to actually change that lol, he came back and change his company. For Ultron he felt that and more and that's why he was on civil war. In this Event Wanda was still a villain for the people, it was directly her that was doing all of the things she was doing to the people, and she knew it so yeah she could have turned herself down she is still more at fault then Tony selling things that end up in the wrong ends. We can forgive Wanda eventually and i don't think anyone hate her or anything, but she is a villain and an anthagonist in this situation for thousands of people directly and also while she is aware (because yeah she was aware of all of this and kept going, she didn't know how she started it but she kept it going and even added more during the whole season ) lol
@P Mack Not releasing the citizens until the end was her choice tho
The difference between them is, the next time Wanda suffers an extreme heartbreak, are we just supposed to trust that she won't snap and do something like this again? Tony can't do anything as destructive or dangerous if he snapped, which he has no history of doing, unlike Wanda now.
I think the white vision is still emotionless, he’s regained his memories of his life before losing the mindstone but I think that’s just that, he likely won’t be a sentient weapon for someone anymore, rather similar to his old self without feelings
Unless the backup that Shuri was making in Infinity War can give him his emotions back.
I don’t he seemed very overwhelmed by his regained memories like he was “feeling” his whole life all at once I think he’ll be less emotional as the original vision but he’ll still have something. I hope anyway
@@Starsaber222 the backup that we don’t know if Shuri even made. =P
The most logical thing would have been for the two of them to merge (as was theorized by some before the episode) into a version of the Vision with memories and emotions in tact but also capable of existing outside the hex. On that note, if Agatha can still be contained in West View even when the Hex is gone then it seems Wanda has the power to keep people under her "spell" on an individual basis. If that's the case then she could have done that with "her" Vision. Not sure why White Vision didn't go to Wanda's aid after acquiring his memories though.
I'm glad the stalemate between the two Visions was decided with a philosophical debate. Also, Wanda's new suit kinda has the same shade of red as Magneto's suit in X-Men: Apocalypse
i kinda wish the red in her suit was brighter
The show was absolutely amazing and I’m so happy they’ve kept Agatha instead of killing her off.
Onto Falcon and the Winter Soldier 👀
I'm very happy that they kept Agatha alive. Now she can become a mentor like she was in the comics for a time.
Same! I’m so happy that there’s a possibility she can come back later, Kathryn Hahn is too good to just kill off!
what? this show is a mediocre dump fest
@@herloss448 I believe that’s your opinion
Wanda is actually capable of Astral Projection while still freely moving her physical body
Didn’t doctor strange can do this as well surprised they where so weirded out by it.
@@SolitaryLark nah when the sorcerers do astral projection, they pass out
@@SolitaryLark when Strange did it, he was sleeping. Wanda did it while actually being awake.
Damn... Wanda is seriously OP then 😱
I feel like Rick is stretching the meanings of both villain and hero
Wanda is the “villain” because she accidentally set this whole thing in motion because of all the awful shit she’s been through but she was also completely unaware of the situation in Westview for most of the show and as soon as she realised how much suffering she’s causing she undoes it and gives up the love of her life and children
And Agatha isn’t even remotely the hero, she did absolutely nothing to help the people of Westview, actively enslaved Ralph, manipulated Wanda to keep her in the Hex and killed a dog
Also the conversation about whether or not the kids are real is nonsense, by Rick’s logic nobody from alternate realities are real
Yeah I sometimes dont get why people want to set characters as either 'black' or 'white' when they can be just 'grey'
Agreed- she was actively playing Wanda as a means to observe just how powerful she is before trying to take that power for herself. In no way was she a hero. She would have quite happily left the people of Westview like that if it didn't serve her own ends. The only good thing she did here was (in a round about way) help Wanda start to deal with her trauma and begind her on the path to learning more about her magic. Agatha was a necessary evil to help Wanda understand her power and that she is the Scarlet Witch.
he literally says the kids don’t exist , AS IF AGATHA HERSELF DIDNT SAY SHE WAS “a being capable of spontaneous creation”
As someone who tuned in to watch Wanda becoming a Scarlet Witch? I LOVED the ending. Didnt give crap about theories and took it fan theories srsly. Ppl need to realize that this is her origin story. Damn yall if you expected any Avengers crumbs, Spider-Man easter eggs or Thanos nods in Iron Man 1 in 2008.
The show is best when you're watching what it is rather than what fans make it out to be. It's just a story about Wanda (and Vision) and that's all it needed to be.
@@grice478 And yet there was a Spiderman: Far from home reference? Lmao
@@grice478 And yet there was Quicksilver fanservice?
Didn't expect any of that, the ending was still disappointing compered to every other episode. Very predictable, no twists, no oh shit moments. No real consequences, it just... ends. side characters complacently useless, you could remove some of them and literally nothing about the plot of the show would change etc. There surly was something missing about that finally. Everything was resolved way to easily. Felt kinda rushed.
I mean you can even see it in this reaction videos. They are not half as hyped as they were in other episodes, or with endings of other, lesser shows.
Still a great show but they surly didn't stick the landing. The finally was probably the most disappointing part of the whole experience. Blue balls, the tv show. Kind like GoT but on a muuuuch lighter and smaller scale ofc.
And my opinion has nothing to do with theories or weird cameo expectations.
Its just most people will say the ending was simply kinda "mah" compered to the rest
@@ajga5435 yeah, I'm not saying the writers and cast helped the situation. I'm just saying when you look at the show for what it is rather than what anyone else says it is. They shouldn't have done that imo
When I saw the Darkhold, I was like “Oh shit.” I’ve seen Agents of Shield, I know what kinda damage that book can cause. But the last time we saw it, Ghost Rider took it back to Hell, where it belongs. How the hell did Agatha get it?
This series was great. Wanda felt remorseful for what she did and fixed it, Monica has Photon powers and we got some build up to Dr. Strange 2 and Captain Marvel 2.
Question is will it corrupt her mind? We saw how much damage Radcliffe did with it, what could wanda do?
It appears in Runaways using the same prop. Presumably the villain in that somehow steals it. If it is the same Darkhold, Agatha somehow steals it, and it changes form.
Either that or it's a second Darkhold. As the MCU is its own continuity, there can be multiple Darkhold in the MCU. Calling into question the canonicity of AoS and Runaways, the Darkhold looking different doesn't decanonize it until Marvel explicitly says so.
I don't think they're concerning themselves too much with things that have happened in AOS. I mean, the design is different for a start.
AoS isn't canon in the MCU
Agents of Shield currently isn’t canon
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“Like what bad thing did Agatha do?”
*She killed Sparky.*
Westview as a town still exists. It existed before Wanda went there. Wanda just trapped Agnes in the town as her tv persona. I think that Wanda definitely had some villainous things happen because of her in this show. It's a major theme after all, none of this would have happened without her. I think that she isn't the main villain however. I think that once we understand what exactly happened to Wanda to make her get to this point, that the main villain of the show would be Hayword and SWORD along with Agatha. Hayword definitely engineered this situation, or at least a situation where Wanda brought back Vision so he could have a living weapon. So while the whole situation is messed up and a big shade of grey, I think that Hayword and Agatha are definitely the major villains of this show.
Elizebeth Olsen never actually said there would be a cameo on par with Luke Skywalker, that was just a clickbait title
It really sucks the way people buy into that kind of thing. They just read headlines, which is bad & misleading enough, but then they also don't recognize when some clickbait site has just written an exaggerated article about another article out of a desperate need for clicks.
@@scarlettmi yea and now people are disappointed in this final because of that
Man, I am glad I dont read too much into such things..I just watched episodes and reactions, didnt even stay for discussion
And I enjoyed the hell out of the series!!!
Do you know what she actually said?
Excuse me?! Agatha not a Villain??? She killed a freaking dog. Also Agatha was ready to kill Wanda right before she lost her powers so she also didn’t intend to use the scarlet witch power for good.
Rick questioned what bad things Agatha did...
SHE KILLED SPARKY
Just a dog
@@TVForces tell that to john wick
She killed spary, her coven, her mother, literally said she goes around taken witches powers from them, imprisoned Ralph and hexed him into being Fietro, choked a couple of kids, could of easily released westview residents from their mental prison but only chose to do so to piss off Wanda, AND tried to become the scarlet witch by killing the scarlet witch
@@jeringatai3156 - Thank you! I can’t believe how many people out there are trying to defend Agatha! She is not a good person.
Wanda is most likely reading the Darkhold in astral form to avoid any possible corruption of her physical body and mind
oohh didn't think of that!
The astral are projection is your mind though. It’s more likely she is just multitasking in my opinion.
I don't think it works that way. I definitely think it's corrupting her.
“Ralph” has got to be the guy in witness protection. Westview is still there. It was there before Wanda. Wanda just changed it into sitcom land. It was called Westview NJ before that. Remember Westview is where Jimmy’s witness was
Westfield already existed. It was an already existing town. She didn't destroy it. She just changed it back.
Also just because White Vision got the memories back doesn't mean he's fully Vision. He still has no emotions.
This is what would have happened to vision if shuri succeeded in taking out the mindstone in infinity war
@@alphaomega5673 not really. People assume that the mindstone gave Vision emotions when really it was Jarvis. Jarvis is the original programing of Vision and Jarvis trying to understand is what created emotions.
@@jeringatai3156 I thought it was obvious with the eyes changing
The writers seemed to have forgotten that Westview never existed and that the town was originally known as Eastview. A bit of a continuity error there.
His eyes changed from robotic to human like and he realised himself as “i am Vision”, so he got his personality back, he can have emotions now, he even has the memories.... but emotional bond to everyone and everything in his life is gone and needs to be re-done, rediscovered
Honestly this series made me cry like a little baby. Also how is it that so few people assume Ralph bohner is in witness protection. Bro literally laughed at his own surname
how are you guys confused? Wanda can astral project while awake and her astral form was studying spells inside the Dark Hold
Wanda's children/their living souls still exist and "something" took them..
Wanda was NOT the "villain", she took control of the people in the town by accident, in was not intentional, context matters, her hex was raw emotion of grief and pain made manifest
Agatha wanted to take all of Wanda's power out Agatha's own lust for power...
The last scene was just like what Strange did in the first movie. It's an astral projection for studying the Darkhold.
But in crack. As far as we know, no one else than her can astral project and be concious in the normal plane at the same time. Since in the astral plane time flows different than our reality.
@@danielfonseca4849 and that's why she's stronger than Strange.
@@SDavid3388 She is stronger than him yes, but Strange is more intelligent ( he is more aware of the things he does too)
I think that the post credit scene is Sam Raimi's shot. We'll see that scene again in Doctor Strange 2.
We know how much Sam Raimi loves his decrepit cabins in wooded areas with evil spell books.
@@wag-wankenobi1626 And also moving the camera PoV into and through said cabin :).
(not sure if it actually _was_ shot by him but I wouldn't be surprised if it was at least a knowing homage)
@@anonymes2884 I'm pretty sure it's Sam raimi, the shot looked drastically different from the ones we see in the show
It definitely looked like Raimi's work.
I noticed that tracking shot (it wasn't entirely steady at points, I could see some shifts) though it didn't occur to me that it would be Raimi. Really should have.
When you said that it was strange (ha) that Agatha was drawn to Wanda's hex but Doctor Strange wasn't remember that Strange has been dead for five years. He's probably been busy putting out tons of fires that have cropped up in his absence which is why he hasn't shown up here.
This is a pretty damn big fire.
Vision may have all of his memories, however, without the Mind Stone perhaps he does not have any emotional connection again.
Well but the mindstone is in Wanda, so that might change
@@JonathanMandrake A "part" of the Mind Stone is in Wanda. The part that she tapped to create the simulacrum of the Vision inside the Hex.
@@LeeCarlson and thats why she can combine those 2 to create the old vision.
They had something very similar in the comics from what I heard
@@Pir-o Something similar.
This is the vision shuri was trying to make in infinity war vision with all his memories but without the mindstone
Damn, Rick really going in hard on the idea that Wanda's totally a big bad, lol. She did some bad things in her grief stricken mood, but I don't think she did so intentionally. She just wanted to be selfish and have her family.
I think Westview still exists, it was just reverted, and Agnes was left there as a 'citizen' of Westview. Westview always existed, it was just rewritten by Wanda when she formed the Hex.
I think the kids exist in some shape or form, which is why Wanda is astroprojecting the Scarlet Witch to study, like Doctor Strange did.
Heroes have done bad things, and villains have done heroic things. That’s what makes them relatable to so many of us.
@@lovinlorne relatable? Homie not all bad actions are equal. Enslaving thousands of people and taking away Agathas free will is fucked up. Whether she intended to or not. Dottie’s (Sarah’s) testimony makes it clear how awful Wanda was in this series. “They’ll never know what you sacrificed” fuck off
@@samuelrichards5521 But Tony can get away with creating a robot that killed thousands and was very close destroying the entire planet. But hey, everyone makes mistakes right? He's still considered a hero right? I agree what Wanda did was messed up, no matter if it was an accident or not. But if we forgave Tony pretty easily, why not forgive Wanda? She literally had no idea what she was doing and when she realized how much pain she was causing, she let the people go. Again, still messed up, but it was an accident, just like Tony's
@@jonathanfritz6097 I don’t think those are equal accidents. By the end Wanda was pretty aware of what she was doing. As soon as she was challenged she knowingly blasted Monica out of there. She is at best dangerously unstable.
Well Rick was right hahah
Ralph Boehner is the actor who plays "Pietro Maximoff" in the movie about The Battle of Sokovia, within the MCU.
No it isn't lol. Aaron Talyor-Johnson played Pietro in Age of Ultron.
@@bable6314 you misunderstood their comment lol
@@bable6314 In OUR universe!
I'm talking about inside the MCU, where there would be "based on actual events" movies of the Avengers.
The Battle of Sokovia was world-wide news, movies would have been made.
Where does that piece of lore come from? SM: Far From Home?
@@WakeUpThisMorning_ I assume just common sense but yeah when Peter's on the plane in that movie, there's films/documentaries he can watch about in-universe events
OHHH! 🤦🏻♀️ Hours after watching the reaction part of this video, it JUST hit me that the “Ralph” Agnes kept mentioning throughout most of this season was fake Pietro / “Ralph Bohner” she was controlling with that enchanted necklace!! 🤣🤣 WOW, I’m slow 😅
Agatha Harkness was only in Westview to steal Wanda's power, which you see from the beginning (going back to the coven in Salem) and so she's as much a villain as Wanda (though Wanda acknowledged that she was the villain there). In the final scene, it looks like we are at Wundagore Mountain where Wanda is studying so that she can "save" her children. Wanda did not "destroy" Westview (the sign is still there) she only allows it to revert to what it was before she got there. And Wanda's "punishment" of Agatha Harkness is only fitting to what she did.
well, reverted everything except for the people that she scared for life.
I also wondered if Wanda was at Wundagore Mountain in the end credits scene! Especially with the way the cabin looked architecturally.
Agatha did bad things yes but she didn't to enough evil to justify turning her into a slave
@@pearsegallagher9832 It's probably safer for the world, if Agatha is "under control" like this.
@@Riddler0603honestly I disagree by that logic it's safer if Wanda enslaves everyone because no one can cause havic to the world
This finale was insane and spectacular! Sitcom Vision gave White Vision back his memories, so we might see him in the near MCU future. Agatha wanted Wanda's chaos power...but the Scarlet Witch emerged and stopped her. It's funny that Wanda actually made Agatha Harkness The Nosy Neighbor Agnes until she'll need her again in the upcoming Dr.Strange movie. I feel like Agatha will now be the Scarlet Witch's mentor. That agent revealing to Monica to be a Skrull was awesome af, Nick Fury is waiting for her! Wanda's astral projection of her Scarlet Witch persona is studying the Darkhold book and hears Billy and Tommy's screams. Which means the twins are somewhere in the multiverse in another realm or dimension!
I think the reason her body is moving while she is astroprojecting is because she is so incredibly powerful
Strange could do it while he slept, so he could presumably do it while he was awake.
@@RedHeadKevin NOt NESSASRILY .. wandas magik is on a cosmic level she doesnt need to stand still and concentrate she can literally do 2 things at the same time strange cant , just shows she on a whole new level
@@RedHeadKevin Last time he tried, his body fell unconscious. So unless he grew even more powerful in-between Dr. Strange and present time, I don't think he can.
"A memory made real." And maybe that's exactly what Westview Vision did. He converted his memories into data for the real Vision to hold on to. To have that experience persist within reality. And it may be why the White Vision fled as he did, to process those regained memories and the ones given to him by his Westview counterpart. And considering how S.W.O.R.D. have been rebuilding him over "a million times" in the past 5 years, its no wonder he looks to be struggling with them at that moment.
He even looked to be in pain, given the grimace he had, as if he remembered having the Mind Stone ripped from his forehead.
But Westview vision had no memories of the past.
@@killerofprimes But he had memories of his time in Westview. So his memories plus the original Vision's memories = a full, continuous Vision that's experienced everything we've seen him experience.
@@killerofprimes they mean that Westview Vision unlocked original Vision's memories and also gave original the Vision Westview Vision's memories from the Hex.
EXCELLENT POINTS OMG. thank you
It would have been great if Westview Vision gave White Vision the Mind Stone.
I really a appreciate the conversation between the two visions. He’s never been a character to fight when there is a different way. I think his “evil” version would be the same
“Thank you for choosing me to be your mom.” 😭😭😭😭🥺 that part broke my heart. Wiccan has a special place in my heart so I’m hoping we can see them in the future.
They didn't choose shit. They didn't establish their relationship. They knew each other for like 3 days. That was nothing. Awful awful awful.
@@kuhpunkt loooool sorry a 9 ep show is making you this upset.😊
@@kuhpunkt dang, it sucked that much to you?
@@Angels0823 Love a lot about the show, first few episodes were legit funny and intriguing. Tackling grief is great... all that stuff, lots to love... but you can't tell me that like Hayward or Agatha were well written characters with proper motivation. Monica was pretty pointless... had no prior connection to Wanda and acted like they were good friends. What? Evan Peters stunt casting was insulting, Vision vs. Vision was rushed, just like the entire finale. Bad pacing... and that forced tearjerker with saying goodbye to the kids... that was bad. And Monica with her "they don't know what you gave up..." please... a false illusion she spent a few days in.
@@kuhpunkt Watch out everyone, Incoming salt.
The sound of the boys calling out for Wanda's help while she was reading the darkhold makes me believe she is trying to find out how to make her children, at the very least, real. I think that is where things are going to start going wrong for Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness and Wanda might not be on the side of good for a large portion of that movie.
Considering the knowledge imparted by the Darkhold in other incarnations, I can imagine Wanda doing some serious damage to the multiverse.
Reading this comment after Doctor Strange M.O.M came out, oh my are u a wizard?
i mean her kids are real😂literally agatha said she’s a being of spontaneous creation
Fan theories are fun but I'm satisfied with the ending seeing Wanda got her closure with Vision. All the love and grief, their story and character shined with this 9 episodes.
Actually been waiting so long for you guys to upload this, can't wait
In Agents of SHIELD they say and show that the Darkhold can change appearance
I was crying so much when Wanda and Vision were saying their goodbye ..it was so heartbreaking and I think it was the most romantic moment and words any pair in the Marvel Cinematic Universe have ever told each other. What a heartbreaking love-story Wanda and Vision had. Can't wait for the Dr.Strange 2 and Spider-Man 3
The Dr. strange theme in the post credits scene tho 👀
I wonder if strange has read that book 👀👀
@@NastyxNatex1 I wonder if it's the same book that is missing in the Ancient One's library. There's a slot open.
@@NastyxNatex1 Probably not because there was a spot missing in the library in the sanctum sanctorum. That spot probably held the Darkhold
@@IveGotTenCents I don’t think. That book prob had a special place because it looks nothing like the rest of the books. They all look like a collection while the dark hold looks complete different
Her being more powerful than doctor strange so maybe she can be in her Astral form but still multitask with her actual body?
Yeah, even in comics shes more powerful and does exactly that. Has an her astral projected form go out in public and interact etc while shes at home with her "not real" twins.
"Boys...handle the military"
😂
There have definitely been villains who have accidentally hurt people and even though they don’t mean what they do, you as a viewer still want the hero to convince the villain to turn herself in. Even though Wanda sacrifices everything for the people of Westview, she’s still mentally tortured them, puppeteer-ed them, kept them from their kids, and choked them. And she did not turn herself in. It’s her show and she still has time to redeem herself like Stark has but she was not the hero of this story.
True, however I do believe Wanda going off to seek knowledge and control is for the best as its what she, and really everyone, needs for her to stop being a danger to herself and others.
Wanda provides the conflict but so does Agatha and Haywood, this paired with the fact that Wanda was unwitting (until the end where she learns how much their suffering and immediately starts to lift the hex) makes me dubious if its appropriate to call her the Villain
@@Labinzel yeah I don’t see her as an evil villain but there was some mysterious force throughout the show that we felt kept everyone trapped and it turned out to just be Wanda, even though she didn’t mean it and gave it up if still say she’s the villain, she learned what she was doing and wanted to keep it up afterwards, not very heroic.
I love this channel! I usually have a problem with reaction channels for just being lazy and ONLY reacting to a show with a 😮 face or a gasp. I love the instant reaction for you lads and the huge chat about it after! We need more channels like this. Been a big fan for a while, keep it up!
Blind wave are awesome
If tony can get away with creating ultron I think Wanda can get away with messing with a few townspeople.
Ultron wasn’t ever intended to go murder crazy, Tony wasn’t trying to build a genocide bot. Wanda knew what she was doing was wrong. I don’t hate Wanda, I actually thinks she’s a really cool character, but she’s never exactly been a good person.
@@MaximEyes the same case could be made the other way
PhantomVirus I disagree, I actually don’t think Wanda understood the full scope of what she’d done until the very end. In the first episode, she knew she did something and somehow Vision was back. She figured out early on the townspeople were in the hex she’d made. But the fact that they were actually suffering beneath the facade she’d imposed on them? WE knew that as the audience, seeing it through Vision’s eyes. But I don’t think Wanda did until the very end. Any issues she saw people having she might have thought she could fix, or by episode 6 she might have thought that was all Agatha’s fault. When Agatha releases the townspeople in the finale, Wanda even tries to argue with them, “no, I kept you all safe.” Of course what she did was terrible for those people, but in terms of Wanda’s intent, I don’t think she understood what she’d done through the majority of the show. There may have been some willful ignorance there, but she’s a person with incredible power she doesn’t understand and was in deep grief. At least she responded well in the last episode and at that point did everything right: sacrificing her own happiness to do what would be best for others, leaving them be and finding a place distant from people to study the Darkhold on the astral plane to understand her powers so something like this would never happen again. (Which might have it’s own unintended consequences, but that’ll just be fun for Doctor Strange 2.)
Well who gave Tony the vision that drove him to create Ultron? Who let him take the very thing (the sceptre) that allowed Ultron to awaken?
@@rainbow95175 the fear was his own. He wasn’t being mind controlled. Just shown a deep insecurity of survivors guilt. And then he and hulk made ultron.
I think I probably enjoyed the first half of Wandavision more than the second, but overall it's easily one of my favorite Marvel creations. The mystery and genre-bending aspects were really refreshing and the cast absolutely shined.
i like all of it
@@TheToxicMegacolon I didn't say I disliked the second half! I would say the second half was good, but I thought the first was top tier in terms of Marvel.
I was more into it when the show played into the all the sitcom tropes. The second half became your typical Marvel fare. Not bad but okay.
Yeah I also liked the first half more because the second part didn't pay off enough IMO regarding the nysteries and the reason on how everything went in motion it was basically "wanda was sad so there you go, oh yeah and that witch just appeared out of nowhere with no real goals."
Great finale - was worried that it was pure action that was a bit too away from the heart of what the show had been, but damn they pulled it back in the last 10 minutes! Had me tearing up! Vision and particularly Wanda have shot up in my favourite characters list!
Fully agree with Eric that people's disappointment comes from them wishing their theories into existence. That being said I did expect a Strange cameo in the post credits.
My Agents of SHIELD fanboy freaked out at the Darkhold! I'm assuming it's just a different edition of the book in the same way books have different publishers and printers
I suppose we did get some Dr Strange music!
The Darkhold can change appearance. So it could be the same book
White vision straight up said "I am vision" and dipped....
😂😂😂😂
That scene played me 😂 legit thought the Visions were going to merge but white vision "imma head out"
_I am Spiderman_
Vision is so pure and worthy that he's willing to die because he knows he's not the real Vision. Applaud this synthezoid.
Remember what was said in Doctor Strange:
'no knowledge is forbidden'
just make sure you read the warnings and consequences
But certain actions are
If you try to figure out who’s the villain is, for me it’s layered like this :
Hayward was the Villain for Wanda
Agatha was the Villain for Wanda
Wanda was the Villain for Westview People
There’s so much conflicts and problems in Wandavision and it caused by many characters so there is no actually single villain here, but to be honest Wanda released chaos magic and held the town in hostage accidentally, under an unstable mental state due of extreme depression and grief which you can also blame Hayward for this.
But she ended up releasing them at the end, by her own choice, and Westview people’s demand, not because of the military, not even Agatha. So I really can’t just call her straight up Villain cause she ended up beating Agatha, because who knows what will Agatha did if she actually got the Scarlet Witch full power, she most likely could do something worse than Wanda and not only to Westview people, but also the whole world using chaos magic.
Quicksilver was literally a reverse Chekov’s gun. It was loaded, but they didn’t give the expected payoff. Still a great show, I was just surprised he wasn’t actually the first to crossover from another universe
I stopped thinking he was actually quicksilver in about episode 7, so I personally wasn’t too disappointed. But, I don’t know why they cast Evan Peters to just do an uno reverse card like that
Well since Evan Peter's Quicksilver is part of the X-Men universe, to me it makes sense that someone would look identical to Evan Peter's in every other universe.
@@billystokes3917 true
@@billystokes3917 Not necessarily lol. That's not how the multiverse theory works, even in Marvel (any Marvel; comics, films, cartoons, TV shows, etc..). Though it's not unlikely that there would be somebody that looks like him either. There are over 7.5b people in the world and I guarantee there's somebody that looks identical to you that you've never met lol.
People are saying this turns Wanda into a villain because she mind controlled this town. But she didn’t do it on purpose and tried to stop it as soon as she could once she realized what happened. If that makes her a villain then you would have to consider Tony a villain as well. Because he and Bruce created Ultron who killed a bunch of people even though that wasn’t their intention. Wanda didn’t even kill anyone, so Tony and Bruce would technically be worse. I don’t consider Tony, Bruce, or Wanda a villain but I feel if you consider one a villain, you should probably consider them all villains.
The town was a mistake she's not a villain for that but at the end of the show she made agatha a slave so I'd say she's 100% a villain
@@pearsegallagher9832 Agatha herself is a villain. She basically trapped Agatha in her own mind. To me that is basically locking up a murderer in solitary, I don’t consider Wanda a villain for doing that.
@@logan_brit there is a very big difference between putting someone in prison and stripping away there free will just because you can she could easily have made ruins in a prison like the raft but no she didn't she wanted a slave just like how at the end when agatha gave the townspeople their minds back Wanda said that she would take care of them she didn't want them to leave she wanted slaves
@@pearsegallagher9832 but she knew it was wrong to keep them there just so she can have her family, so she shut down the hex. The only person she purposefully took the free will away from now is Agatha, who has murdered people and brainwashed people (Ralph). What Wanda did to her was basically brainwashing. If you aren’t cool with that, it’s fine you can think that it makes Wanda a villain. I personally am fine with it because Agatha is a bad person, so I don’t consider Wanda a villain.
@@logan_brit first of all you said agatha is wrong for brainwashing Ralph but not wrong for Wanda to brainwash agatha. Next agatha brainwashed someone who was being brainwashed also she killed people who were about to kill her
I'm fairly certain Wanda's cabin is where Sokovia used to be. That big lake is probably the crater the city left when it got lifted into the air.
I am glad WandaVision ended this way. The story was about Wanda dealing with trauma and accepting loss to move forward and become a fully realised Scarlet Witch.
WandaVision focused on the main characters instead of adding in cameos that could overshadow everything that happened in the series like some other shows.
I really liked the Mandalorian season 2 cameo with Luke when I first watched it but if you take out that scene, the finale is very mid, no one cared about anything in that finale other than Luke. WandaVision had trust in its own characters will carry the story instead of relying on big cameos for fan service and to hype up the audience in the moment.
To people who follow theory channels and sites, the moral of the story is not to accept theories as gospel and ruin a great show with false/over expectation.
However, I do hope they mention in his movie that Doctor Strange was aware of the situation and was busy with something else as he is supposed to be the protector of this dimension and should be aware of all threats. If Agatha could detect the hex then Dr. Strange and Wong should be able to as well.
yeah i was fine with Mando season 2 but i wasn't the biggest fan of it precisely for that reason.
I say it is all good fun as long as you go into thing understanding that all your theories won't all be correct. If anything the theory crafting just shows people are really invested.
Personally I thought even without the luke appearance the mando season 2 finale was great
I want Jimmy Woo to learn real magic and become a magical FBI investigator.
I hope we get more of Jimmy, perhaps as a Director of one of the organizations, or just generally fill the role of Coulson.
Agents of Shield with Jimmy Woo: electric boogaloo
There's just something glorious about the phrase "from the timeline where Captain America fought himself on that skywalk"
Elizabeth Olsen wasn't the one that brought up the Luke Skywalker thing. It was the interviewer that initially said that.
The “nah im just kidding man throw em up” bit at the beginning brought a genuine smile to my face. Love you guys! 💪🏽😂
Love you all guys 😊 💞..
gonna miss ur wandaV reaction 😭
❤ from the Philippines 🇵🇭
I love Wanda's new outfit it's got more of an edge to it really makes her look badass.
Ralph was Jimmy Woo's witness.
When Evan Peters chuckled at the name Bohner, it was pretty obvious.
Plus, who keeps a named picture of themselves, besides actors.
Doesn't matter, Ralph is a fake Hex name like all the others, and all the things in his house are fake Hex things like all the others.
Even if he had a fake witness protection name before the Hex that means he would have had 3 names in total.
Did you catch when Agatha said that Wanda, as the Scarlett Witch, is more powerful than the Sorcerer Supreme (Dr. Strange)?
Darkhold was used in agents of shield multiple time’s.It shows you whatever you want to create so Wanda is basically creating a new vision...
Don't worry I don't think we have seen the last of Billy and Tommy.
Because for me, this low-key confirmed that the young avengers are coming to the mcu because almost all the future Disney+ shows could introduce at least one of the young avengers and I am so excited for it:
Billy and Tommy as Wiccan and Speed in Wandavision (Confirmed)
Elijah Bradley as Padriot in Falcon and the Winter Soldier (Unconfirmed)
Kid Loki in the loki series (Unconfirmed)
Kate Bishop as Hawkeye 2 in the Hawkeye series (confirmed)
America Chavez as Mrs. America in Doctor Strange 2 (Confirmed)
Cassie Lang as Stature in Ant-Man 3 (Confirmed)
Teddy Altman as Hulkling in eather Secret Invasion or Captain Marvel 2 (Unconfirmed)
And then of course Kamala Kahn aka mrs marvel and Riri Williams aka Ironheart are getting there own shows.
and you know damn well eventually Sony is gonna partner with Marvel to get Miles Morales int he MCU
so he will be there eventually. Too much money on the table for both companies to not work out a deal.
Monica's powers will still be intact after the Hex being gone because every event leading up to her gaining her powers through contact with the CMBR (Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation) it changed her DNA on a molecular level, even her cat scan came back with her DNA altered. So rest assured her powers aren't going anywhere 😊
Holy crap Rick just foreshadowed the ship of Theseus dilemma we get in this episode at 3:00.
“Thank you for choosing me to be your mom” is definitely a thing I’ve heard in media and real life, more associated if someone close is dying or leaving and you know you are not going to see them again, like thank you for being my sister or brother, or in this case being your mom or dad. I’ve heard that saying before
Visions words break my heart every god damn time