I upgraded the battery... this is what happened to range! ruclips.net/video/KLgb4SFHLQI/видео.html See what happened on my top speed run 🤪 ruclips.net/video/nj287kFgCGM/видео.html
just keep your little electric motorcycle out of the bicycle lane. this is a good way to get your ass kicked and some important wires cut everywhere you park. motors are for motor lanes. don't be a betch.
I took my stock seat and bought a 2in firm memory foam pad and a seat cover and added it to the stock seat and it's so much more comfy! Highly suggest.
Really loving your videos dude! One thing I really recommend for anyone riding a Sur Ron or other types of bikes like these is a downhill mtb helmet with full face protection. I use the Smith Mainline which is super lightweight and has incredible airflow.
Thanks! You’re right, I actually have that exact helmet in my shopping cart on Amazon, I’ve been meaning to get a full face helmet. You’re totally right.
Love seeing a local channel blowing up like u bro. This is awesome content. Keep it up man. Get some LEDs on that baby and hit up the electric light parade sometime!
@@JuicedJoyrides yeah man! It’s a ton of fun. I go most weeks on my ebike, I have some LEDs that plug in to the phone charger on the battery and it makes me feel like a balllller!
Sur Ron got around that Hollywood town effortless ! Small bikes and scooters are the go to commute in larger urban areas ! Thx JJ for this vista ride !
He said “I don’t really want to carry 5 pounds on my back” lmao brotha I usually roll out with at LEAST 10 pounds lol, camelbak, spare parts/tools,ouid, and snacks lol 1:54
Very cool videos dude the surron looks like the best way to see LA you cover so much ground its really inspiring to see; On a side note, there is a universal key/tool that can access locked electrical and water valves commonly found on the outside of commercial, office, parks, schools, and retail buildings also on many lampposts in every city. They are commonly called silcock keys there are also a few cabinet key variants as well, they can all be kept neatly on a keychain and can be used to access locked power and water can reduce range anxiety quite a bit, just remember to be discrete.
Thank you, it’s been great exploring the city on this. Would love to know more about this key and places I may be able to find to charge the bike… I have not noticed these locked power areas, I want to know more or see an example
Nice ....I ordered the same one...it gets here Tuesday...the crew have a 100 mile ride out this Saturday if your interested...we stop and fully charge at 40miles ...
Wow, that’s a long one. What’s the route and where is the information? Im interested, but I’m going to be in Washington this weekend, perhaps I can ride with you guys next time.
@@JuicedJoyrides yeah I thought about going bigger but I have to remove my battery for easier and lighter bike transport...also..from what I've been able to figure our 72v 38v has the best cells..if we run 3800k or 5000k we can essentially go 60 to 70 miles per charge and still have fun..just use the egg rider and have off road set for 5000k and Road set for 11k ...thats basically eco and sport...also do you have the regen throttle yet? I use it and set it at 25percent and use it as a break..I rarely need to actually use my breaks anymore....
@@DailyWalt this is great news for range, I like your setup. Any problems with overheating the motor? I don’t have the Regen throttle, would love to get one. I have my modes set so that one of them has like 10% regen, so it’s like a push button brake. I hope I get that kind of range at my weight of 200lbs, I was having a little buyers remorse on my ride to the top of the Santa Monica mountains today wishing I got the 51ah 😆
@@JuicedJoyrides yup...I totally had it..was thinking of changing to the 60v 51a instead...but I learned the 72v is better for our kind of riding..I dont do much trail or dirt stuff..also I ordered my battery about 25 days ago ..I also got the steel edition and upgraded charger:)
Great video! I grew up in the Scn Fernando Valley and when I was a youth I drove to the bottom of the Hollywood sign with my friends on a Friday Night and we each had a 12 pack and climbed all the way up to the sign with the 12 packs. Imbibed and then proceeded to hang from the second "O". It is surprisingly windy at times and I remember being blown forward and backward while I hung there. Wanna talk about a view! Brings back some of the crazy times!
@@JuicedJoyrides I doubt it! One could try it under the cover of darkness, but without the consumption of an entire 12 pack. I was a somewhat reckless 80's child . They now have a fence that spans the actual sign entry is what I am told.
Thanks for the video bro. It's nice to see how well the stock battery performed before you get that 72v beast. You are an inspiration to keep working towards taking my own plunge. Right now all I have is a radpower bikes rr6 but the Sur Ron is a definite goal of mine. I've filmed a couple of videos but don't have the gear to make higher quality yet. Keep up the good work and stay safe out there ✊
Thank man! You’ll get one soon enough, enjoy the pedal ebike too though, those are fun and you actually get some cardio exercise too. I used to ride regular bikes a lot, but since getting the Sur Ron this year I hardly ever convince myself to actually ride a pedal bike anymore and I can feel a difference in my body because of it 😆, not that Sur Ron’s aren’t exercise necessarily, popping wheelies and riding stairs/tough terrain is definitely exercise. I find that the quality of a video is in the edit, you might be surprised what you can do with less then perfect footage with a little voiceover, jump cuts, and b roll. I appreciate you, thanks for watching.
Regen seems to not be that good if you traveled nearly 4 miles downhill and only recovered 1%. I know its not a comparison, but riding my onewheel XR down almost a 1/4 mile at Sonoma raceway (down the hill) regenerated almost 1%. Almost fell off the board because of it because of overcharging.
I get about 28 miles of range which brings the battery level down to %10. That’s with a 58 tooth sprocket x160 with an x260 battery. That is 28 miles of range at full throttle though.
@@JuicedJoyrides I weigh 115 lbs and am 5'6. The battery hold's consistent speeds from 70% to 40%. After 40% the speed definitely starts to drop quickly.
True, I was looking into getting this but now that I decided to upgrade the battery I don’t know if it’s compatible with the charger that Chi battery sells. If it is I would like to get it and try it, But I think this charger input voltage is only accepts 120 V and not 240 V like most EV charging stations provide.
@@JuicedJoyrides Can u buy it with the 72 volt or do u have to order it separately. Im switching from escooters to a sur ron or something with a 72 volt high amp and im just starting to learn about these ebikes.
@@bigcity420 they all come stock with a 60v 32 ah battery, you have to order a 72v separate from a third party. Also, you need to upgrade the controller in order to be able to run a 72v battery, which is why some people opt for a higher amperage 60v aftermarket battery capable for more power and range.
Kind of insane the weight difference changes the milage, mine is stock just has wire cut. I'm 5'9" 165 lbs have got 32 from 100% to 20% ripping on it. More if I'm just cruising.
14:40 - In Europe you would be immediately fined for riding on sidewalk! If there is no bike lane then you must use road. That kind of ebike is also banned in EU. Only pedal assist is allowed, no throttle.
Subscribed. this is the range video stock I was looking for. just waiting to get one more bill payed off to afford it. I can't wait to have some freedom again
Hey man, as always amazing video! Love this😃 was curious though… Why upgrade to 72 V/38 amp hour battery versus the 60 V/60 amp hour gladiator battery? Are you going more for power than range? Thanks again for the video! Used to live at the bottom of West Hollywood! Can’t wait to get back out there and take trips likes these when I finally get a SurRon! 🙌🙌
Thanks! I want more power on tap, and more range for when I don't fully utilize the power I have on tap. It seems like 60v just doesn't have the zip 72v can provide. I am partially having buyers remorse for not going with the larger 51ah version of the 72v. It's hard to decide without having the ability to actually try them out, I hope I'm happy with my purchase. It's a fun are over by west hollywood, where did you move to?
@@JuicedJoyrides I’m down in Orange County at the moment, but if/when I get back up there with the SurRon, I’ll definitely hit you up and maybe see you on the streets🙏 that’s cool with the 72v. I definitely get it especially bc you’re a very tall 6’5”. One thing that had me concerned (which is why I love the 60/60 gladiator) was overall size/weight for what you get out of it. I’m not sure on the 72v chi’s but I know the 60/60 is only 10-13 pounds heavier than the stock battery which seems like a good balance point for not adding too much weight, yet still doubling your range :-) either way, I just need to get the bike first 😆😆😆
Also, curious if you have an Instagram I can follow :-) I love checking out photos of SurRons. How do you still like the 244’s? I was into the 241’s but the 244’s are growing on me haha
I don’t post to the gram, that world is to fake for my liking. The 244’s are good, def much more tread life for street riding vs stock. They still look almost new, vs the oem rear tire basically worn out in three months. I kinda want to try the 241s, if I can remember correctly they had a softer compound than the 244s which is why I opted for the 244. One downside is these shinko tires weigh considerably more than the oem tires.
@@JuicedJoyrides Thanks man, I appreciate it! Great video! I really want to buy one of these bikes so am literally watching every video before I pull the trigger. Ride safe!👍😃
Nice, sooner or later looking to pick up one of those Chi batts. Dont mean to sound like a noob/my current Sur Ron is stock so haven't ventured into the after market batt realm yet. So em is the unlocking part necessary? / is it just to be used with the 4000 bac? if your just sticking with the 60v version of the Chi and the x controller is it necessary?. I know it not a big deal, its commonly done , but i hear that "unlocking" the battery removes fire protections AND any kind of warantees so "whats the point" and does it have to be done?. Thanks for any info, -Cheers
I think what you’re talking about is doing the bypass on the battery. If you buy a 60 V from chi, you will not need to bypass it in order to get full power. The only reason to bypass the stock 60 V battery is so you can get the BAC 4000 controller to pull 7000 W from the stock battery, whereas if you do not do the bypass the controller will only be able to pull 5000 W
Not only one percent. Also some power was needed to go down. Should be equal to two percents worth. But would be interesring to see the result without the regen on. Aswell as if the lamps consume anything,
I feel like the headlight is negligible energy consumption. Good point about it taking some throttle to get down the hill. I was surprised to see the charge actually go back up, that was the first time I ever saw it go up at all I think.
I find that the battery percentage drops off linearly, and as the percentage gets lower the power gets weaker and weaker. It goes kinda like this: 100-85% thrilling, really powerful 85-70% pretty darn fun still 70-50% I wish it was more charged 50-40% still holds good top speeds but the acceleration has reduced considerably 40-20%% it's getting you from a to b with good speed but you know its time to go home 20% and less I rarely ride, it can still pop a wheelie at 20% but its not much fun anymore
@@JuicedJoyrides Thanks for the detailed reply. I've only had mine less than 3 months and just trying to understand its system better. I felt it wasn't linear but didn't scientificly test it. Maybe that was due to me using a higher percentage of throttle towards the end of the range than the beginning. I'll have to download that App you were using... did you mention its name in the vid?
I debated many options. I want more speed too, from what I hear and my experience riding other 72v bikes, it seems like more voltage is the better route to go for more power. I almost got the larger 72v 51ah battery, but ultimately decided to get the 38ah so it will look less goofy, and because the ship time was listed as faster. Going from the stock 60v 32ah battery which is 1920 watt hours to the 72v 38ah is 2736 watt hours is a 42% increase in energy. So riding at the same speeds as the old battery I should see a huge increase in range. I hope I’m happy with my choice, but part of me wonders if I should have gone for the larger 72v.
I never got a flat on either tire, but the shinko tires are much thicker and heavier, they sure seem more puncture resistant to me. I’m using the stock inner tubes, probably would have upgraded them but it didn’t cross my mind at the time I ordered my tires.
@@JuicedJoyrides I see. Those surron tires are definitely beefy, I'm sure they'll handle just fine. I found this stuff called FlatOut which seems pretty effect. I'm going to throw some in my tires when I get it
i hate how u have a 10 dollar bike lock to lock a bike that cost 5 grand if ur gonna spend that much money at least spend 100 dollars on a good lock for it
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Hey your Sur Ron chain noise sounded fairly loud and I only inquire because I had quite the learning curve getting the chain tightness correct on mine and discovered that my bike was loud cause it wasn't right. I only comment out of concern could completely be the microphone picking up that chain noise but maybe your chain could use some adjustment 🤷♂️ otherwise very cool video my city is very boring to ride in when compared to where you get to ride, love it!
Thanks man, you’re def right, need to tighten up the chain again as well as clean it again, the noise creeps up on me and then suddenly I realize it’s super loud and needs maintenance. Where do you ride?
@@JuicedJoyrides definitely don't mean to be negative I just had a week of adjusting before I realized where the chain should sit (I'm used to dirt bike chains) so I'm plenty experienced in the different noises the chain makes haha. I'm up in Canada but in the flat part so no hills/mountains to ride through unfortunately, just means I'll have to plan a road trip the USA one day and bring the bike along 👌
@@JuicedJoyrides oh! I didn't even realize it wasn't the stock chain (like I have) lol that could even be part of the reason it sounds different 👍 This was my first video suggested on my feed I've watched of yours, can't wait to dive into the others. Keep it up 🤙
😆 this battery has 3x the energy capacity as the Prius battery, thanks for pointing this out, made for some interesting research and google searches for me!
Awesome video! I noticed you are in the Playa Vista area. I am in Culver City and ride around that area a lot. I ride a onyx RCR. Hit me up if you ever wanna ride together around town. 🤙
Mine was particularly loud on this day, I actually just posted a new video of the same ride, it might be a little bit quieter now? It’s really my lack of chain maintenance that causes the noise considering converting to belt.
there is an app called PlugShare for that, it's helped me find some outlets around the city, it's also led me to some wild goose chases. you can share outlets you find on that app. hope this helps dude!
These type of bike frames is the standard for e biking. Being a very expensive e bike in these ,the market is flooded with ecomical ones starting at 700$ range. Majority of these cheaper ones goes up to the 1000$ range depending on power of motor and so on. Most used the standard 1 piece frame of jus front shocks. E bike speed differs from jus foot power as I found out with 1 piece frame with jus 1 shocks in the front wheel, the comfort when going 20mph is still a bit rough. I bought a Conversion Kit and used sam we typ we of frame as the ones in to his video of 2 piece frame Dual Shocks being a hardtail type. It goes 40mph and way smoother of handling the road much like the suspension from Mercedes-Benz Cars. Knowing the difference ,every future buy or CKit I get, it will always be the 2 piece Dual shock frames I will only use.
Thanks for the comment man, I used a kit to build one in the past back in 2016 and found the same experience as you. The actual mid drive motor conversion made a powerful and fun electric bike, but the lack of suspension is what really killed the vibe of the whole thing. Been loving this bike, happy riding!
Those e bikes are 😎👍. It's jus not in my world 🌎 of what I can afford. I just went ahead and find similar type of frame as I had 1 bike already I converted. It will be the ER standard type of frame I will always use. The other 1 shock 1 piece frames should be obsolete as the frame is not really fitted to adapt to the speed of e bikes for the various conditions of road or trail.
I didn’t attempt top speed climbing the hill, I’d guess it would be able to do mid 40s, about 45mph, but it will drain the battery really quickly and also cause the motor to potentially overheat running too much power up a steep hill for a long time.
definitely designed for 1 person, however I do know a guy who squeezes two people onto it. There is only one set of pegs for 1 riders feet. The suspension would be quite compressed with two people on the bike.
the reason the batter was going down realy quickly was because u had ur phone pluged in next time dont have your phone pluged in and the batter might last longer but good video i liked it
Kinda doubt it affects range at all, a phone draws milli-amps, then thing runs on 100 amps ish, The amount of energy the phone would take to charge from 0 to 100% might be enough to power this bike for a 10th of a mile
I don't follow your channel (until now) and I don't know how tall you are. I'm very tall and I wonder how I would fit on this bike. You look tall, it will help me if I know your height so I could compare. We weight almost the same.
meanwhile my 48v 1100wh (thats been cycled over 1300 times now) can do 60-70km on a single charge, and its a 750w 1400w peak mid drive, with an 8spd, that can tow a car on flat, get up any hill, and do abt 50mph top speed lol
I upgraded the battery... this is what happened to range!
ruclips.net/video/KLgb4SFHLQI/видео.html
See what happened on my top speed run 🤪 ruclips.net/video/nj287kFgCGM/видео.html
This is the first big trip I'm doing when I get my surron. Love the videos man! Keep up the great content!
😆 if you do, I recommend you don’t go on a weekend when lots of people are around
just keep your little electric motorcycle out of the bicycle lane. this is a good way to get your ass kicked and some important wires cut everywhere you park. motors are for motor lanes. don't be a betch.
You should meet with John hicks! He’s another RUclipsr with a sur Ron and he rides around downtown LA all the time
I took my stock seat and bought a 2in firm memory foam pad and a seat cover and added it to the stock seat and it's so much more comfy! Highly suggest.
Just the video i was looking for. Thank you! You nailed it.
Really loving your videos dude! One thing I really recommend for anyone riding a Sur Ron or other types of bikes like these is a downhill mtb helmet with full face protection. I use the Smith Mainline which is super lightweight and has incredible airflow.
Thanks! You’re right, I actually have that exact helmet in my shopping cart on Amazon, I’ve been meaning to get a full face helmet. You’re totally right.
Meh ....I use both...full face when I'm feeling frisky!!!!!
@@JuicedJoyrides i lost 3 teeth not wearing full face. Its worth it.
@@plark7323 I think it’s time for me to pull the trigger on that shopping cart
@@plark7323damn that sucks
Love seeing a local channel blowing up like u bro. This is awesome content. Keep it up man. Get some LEDs on that baby and hit up the electric light parade sometime!
Thank you! Are you talking about the Sunday night beach cruise in Venice? I’ve been considering
@@JuicedJoyrides yeah man! It’s a ton of fun. I go most weeks on my ebike, I have some LEDs that plug in to the phone charger on the battery and it makes me feel like a balllller!
@@ChimenyDust 😆 I don’t have any leds yet, but may roll with anyway, maybe 2 weekends from now
just subbed, love the vids and can't wait to see the 72v in action!
Thanks man! Can’t wait to get it!
Sur Ron got around that Hollywood town effortless ! Small bikes and scooters are the go to commute in larger urban areas ! Thx JJ for this vista ride !
Waiting on your next album to drop 🎶
Surrons are sweet little machines.
Love ‘em
There even better then that
He said “I don’t really want to carry 5 pounds on my back” lmao brotha I usually roll out with at LEAST 10 pounds lol, camelbak, spare parts/tools,ouid, and snacks lol 1:54
Very cool videos dude the surron looks like the best way to see LA you cover so much ground its really inspiring to see; On a side note, there is a universal key/tool that can access locked electrical and water valves commonly found on the outside of commercial, office, parks, schools, and retail buildings also on many lampposts in every city. They are commonly called silcock keys there are also a few cabinet key variants as well, they can all be kept neatly on a keychain and can be used to access locked power and water can reduce range anxiety quite a bit, just remember to be discrete.
Thank you, it’s been great exploring the city on this. Would love to know more about this key and places I may be able to find to charge the bike… I have not noticed these locked power areas, I want to know more or see an example
Nice ....I ordered the same one...it gets here Tuesday...the crew have a 100 mile ride out this Saturday if your interested...we stop and fully charge at 40miles ...
Wow, that’s a long one. What’s the route and where is the information? Im interested, but I’m going to be in Washington this weekend, perhaps I can ride with you guys next time.
How long did it take for them to ship it from the time you ordered? I’m tempted to try and call today and see if I can upgrade to the 51ah haha
@@JuicedJoyrides yeah I thought about going bigger but I have to remove my battery for easier and lighter bike transport...also..from what I've been able to figure our 72v 38v has the best cells..if we run 3800k or 5000k we can essentially go 60 to 70 miles per charge and still have fun..just use the egg rider and have off road set for 5000k and Road set for 11k ...thats basically eco and sport...also do you have the regen throttle yet? I use it and set it at 25percent and use it as a break..I rarely need to actually use my breaks anymore....
@@DailyWalt this is great news for range, I like your setup. Any problems with overheating the motor? I don’t have the Regen throttle, would love to get one. I have my modes set so that one of them has like 10% regen, so it’s like a push button brake. I hope I get that kind of range at my weight of 200lbs, I was having a little buyers remorse on my ride to the top of the Santa Monica mountains today wishing I got the 51ah 😆
@@JuicedJoyrides yup...I totally had it..was thinking of changing to the 60v 51a instead...but I learned the 72v is better for our kind of riding..I dont do much trail or dirt stuff..also I ordered my battery about 25 days ago ..I also got the steel edition and upgraded charger:)
Thats crazy I was gonna do the same thing for my Chi battery lo going to the Hollywood sign... lol Nice vid bro!
😆 if you do, I recommend don’t go on a weekend when lots of people are around
@@JuicedJoyrides yes def a mid week situation!
Great video! I grew up in the Scn Fernando Valley and when I was a youth I drove to the bottom of the Hollywood sign with my friends on a Friday Night and we each had a 12 pack and climbed all the way up to the sign with the 12 packs. Imbibed and then proceeded to hang from the second "O". It is surprisingly windy at times and I remember being blown forward and backward while I hung there. Wanna talk about a view! Brings back some of the crazy times!
😆 wow, I wonder if you could get away with that these days, sounds awesome
@@JuicedJoyrides I doubt it! One could try it under the cover of darkness, but without the consumption of an entire 12 pack. I was a somewhat reckless 80's child . They now have a fence that spans the actual sign entry is what I am told.
Best SurRon channel
Thank you 😉
Thanks for the video bro. It's nice to see how well the stock battery performed before you get that 72v beast. You are an inspiration to keep working towards taking my own plunge. Right now all I have is a radpower bikes rr6 but the Sur Ron is a definite goal of mine. I've filmed a couple of videos but don't have the gear to make higher quality yet. Keep up the good work and stay safe out there ✊
Thank man! You’ll get one soon enough, enjoy the pedal ebike too though, those are fun and you actually get some cardio exercise too. I used to ride regular bikes a lot, but since getting the Sur Ron this year I hardly ever convince myself to actually ride a pedal bike anymore and I can feel a difference in my body because of it 😆, not that Sur Ron’s aren’t exercise necessarily, popping wheelies and riding stairs/tough terrain is definitely exercise. I find that the quality of a video is in the edit, you might be surprised what you can do with less then perfect footage with a little voiceover, jump cuts, and b roll. I appreciate you, thanks for watching.
This is what I need to ride around Nashville filming my vlogs. Great review. Keep up the great work.
This was a cool video Matt! Love the scenery.
Really fun video . Very well done. Thanks for the ride 👍🏽 !
Thanks for joining!
Regen seems to not be that good if you traveled nearly 4 miles downhill and only recovered 1%.
I know its not a comparison, but riding my onewheel XR down almost a 1/4 mile at Sonoma raceway (down the hill) regenerated almost 1%. Almost fell off the board because of it because of overcharging.
That's pretty good performance for the Stock Battery
I was surprised. Thought I’d have to stop to recharge along the way to make it home!
best channel
Thanks!
The Californian countryside is so beautiful.
Excellent job! Repeat with the new battery. I estimate you will get home with 35% battery left. BUT, see if it will show accurate battery readings!
Thanks, will do. I’m thinking you’re about right on the percentage estimate remaining. What do you mean by it showing accurate readings?
You should try and bring a light bulb socket plug-in adapter next time. Lots easier to find a working light bulb socket.
I get about 28 miles of range which brings the battery level down to %10. That’s with a 58 tooth sprocket x160 with an x260 battery. That is 28 miles of range at full throttle though.
Nice, how much do you weigh? Do you notice the battery feeling a lot weaker below 50% charge? Maybe I should do a full throttle test as well
@@JuicedJoyrides I weigh 115 lbs and am 5'6. The battery hold's consistent speeds from 70% to 40%. After 40% the speed definitely starts to drop quickly.
@@shastamite2 I envy your weight
nice vid as always. yeah the loud sound is the chain. they get dirty and loose fairly quick.
Thanks! Yeah I didn’t realize how loud it got again, I cleaned it up and tightened it again and it’s quieter now.
What you need is J 1772 to nema 5-15/5-29EV charger adapter you can plug into any auto ev charging station and it's under $100.00
True, I was looking into getting this but now that I decided to upgrade the battery I don’t know if it’s compatible with the charger that Chi battery sells. If it is I would like to get it and try it, But I think this charger input voltage is only accepts 120 V and not 240 V like most EV charging stations provide.
Your chain is way to tight my man. I noticed it in several of your vids. That's why it's so loud. Love the videos. Keep em coming!
cant wait for the comparison on the 72v
me too haha
@@JuicedJoyrides Can u buy it with the 72 volt or do u have to order it separately. Im switching from escooters to a sur ron or something with a 72 volt high amp and im just starting to learn about these ebikes.
@@bigcity420 they all come stock with a 60v 32 ah battery, you have to order a 72v separate from a third party. Also, you need to upgrade the controller in order to be able to run a 72v battery, which is why some people opt for a higher amperage 60v aftermarket battery capable for more power and range.
@@TailHappyTV Good to know, thanks for writing back.
Nice video, waited for this kind a while 👍👍👍
72v coming soon, and another long 60v ride in queue
Looking at one of these as a commuter. 23 miles round trip. Would be interesting to see how long the battery lasts
It can easily do 23 miles round trip stock on flat terrain, probably at top speed
Kind of insane the weight difference changes the milage, mine is stock just has wire cut. I'm 5'9" 165 lbs have got 32 from 100% to 20% ripping on it. More if I'm just cruising.
I’m a bit envious of all you lighter riders, the performance of my bike is always going to be less simply due to my larger body size
@@JuicedJoyrides The 72v should experience significantly less voltage sag.
14:40 - In Europe you would be immediately fined for riding on sidewalk! If there is no bike lane then you must use road. That kind of ebike is also banned in EU. Only pedal assist is allowed, no throttle.
So I’ve heard, seems much stricter there. Chill vibes here 🤙
i was riding to nearby village on SurRon - it was less than 38km. I've had 100% battery. After reaching my destination there was only 19% left
Dang, you must’ve been riding hard 😆
@@JuicedJoyrides not at all. 50 km/h almost all the time
Great video thank you. What is the entrance to the hollywood sign called?
I'm not sure actually, it was kinda hard to find
@@JuicedJoyrides ok thank you anyway
wonder view trail. the road is mt lee dr
Subscribed. this is the range video stock I was looking for. just waiting to get one more bill payed off to afford it. I can't wait to have some freedom again
Cheers to freedom!
Do you think I should wait for the 2023 model or just get the one they have now?
I’d get the new one with the bigger battery if you plan on keeping the stock battery and if it doesn’t cost much more than the previous model
@@JuicedJoyrides okay thanks! Do you know when it comes out?
Nice information for my battery, thanks!
You’re welcome 😜
Hey man, as always amazing video! Love this😃 was curious though… Why upgrade to 72 V/38 amp hour battery versus the 60 V/60 amp hour gladiator battery? Are you going more for power than range? Thanks again for the video! Used to live at the bottom of West Hollywood! Can’t wait to get back out there and take trips likes these when I finally get a SurRon! 🙌🙌
Thanks! I want more power on tap, and more range for when I don't fully utilize the power I have on tap. It seems like 60v just doesn't have the zip 72v can provide. I am partially having buyers remorse for not going with the larger 51ah version of the 72v. It's hard to decide without having the ability to actually try them out, I hope I'm happy with my purchase. It's a fun are over by west hollywood, where did you move to?
@@JuicedJoyrides I’m down in Orange County at the moment, but if/when I get back up there with the SurRon,
I’ll definitely hit you up and maybe see you on the streets🙏 that’s cool with the 72v. I definitely get it especially bc you’re a very tall 6’5”. One thing that had me concerned (which is why I love the 60/60 gladiator) was overall size/weight for what you get out of it. I’m not sure on the 72v chi’s but I know the 60/60 is only 10-13 pounds heavier than the stock battery which seems like a good balance point for not adding too much weight, yet still doubling your range :-) either way, I just need to get the bike first 😆😆😆
Also, curious if you have an Instagram I can follow :-) I love checking out photos of SurRons. How do you still like the 244’s? I was into the 241’s but the 244’s are growing on me haha
I don’t post to the gram, that world is to fake for my liking. The 244’s are good, def much more tread life for street riding vs stock. They still look almost new, vs the oem rear tire basically worn out in three months. I kinda want to try the 241s, if I can remember correctly they had a softer compound than the 244s which is why I opted for the 244. One downside is these shinko tires weigh considerably more than the oem tires.
@@JuicedJoyrides yes 2 pounds per tire extra, but they definitely seem worth it :-) no worries on Instagram. I feel THE EXACT same way about twitter 👍
What app is that for tracking your route?
Strava
Way to go buddy!
Thanks buddy
That was a cool trip. I’m from the UK and haven’t been to LA yet. One day 👌
Thanks! Enjoy your visit when you come!
Did you cut the green wire or no? Also what regen sheeting are you on?
10% Regen, green wire snipped from day 1
@@JuicedJoyrides Thank you
heya mate, i saw your gloves and liked the look of them, would you mind telliing me the name of those gloves please?
How tall are you, how do you find the size of this ebike for yourself?
Should your controller be where it is? Completely exposed to all the dirt and grime thrown at it from the front wheel?
It’s the stock location, probably should add a cover of sorts
@@JuicedJoyrides Thanks man, I appreciate it! Great video! I really want to buy one of these bikes so am literally watching every video before I pull the trigger. Ride safe!👍😃
Nice, sooner or later looking to pick up one of those Chi batts. Dont mean to sound like a noob/my current Sur Ron is stock so haven't ventured into the after market batt realm yet. So em is the unlocking part necessary? / is it just to be used with the 4000 bac? if your just sticking with the 60v version of the Chi and the x controller is it necessary?. I know it not a big deal, its commonly done , but i hear that "unlocking" the battery removes fire protections AND any kind of warantees so "whats the point" and does it have to be done?. Thanks for any info, -Cheers
I think what you’re talking about is doing the bypass on the battery. If you buy a 60 V from chi, you will not need to bypass it in order to get full power. The only reason to bypass the stock 60 V battery is so you can get the BAC 4000 controller to pull 7000 W from the stock battery, whereas if you do not do the bypass the controller will only be able to pull 5000 W
@@JuicedJoyrides Ah , thanks that clarifies alot of things/thanks for the info, great channel. -Cheers
Not only one percent. Also some power was needed to go down. Should be equal to two percents worth. But would be interesring to see the result without the regen on.
Aswell as if the lamps consume anything,
I feel like the headlight is negligible energy consumption. Good point about it taking some throttle to get down the hill. I was surprised to see the charge actually go back up, that was the first time I ever saw it go up at all I think.
There are adapters available to charge PEV from most charging stations.
I’ve been looking into that, the new battery I ordered uses a 120v input so this may be an issue
How do you find the battery percentage dropoff... does it reduce linearly... or does it drop off faster during the last 3rd of the capacity?
I find that the battery percentage drops off linearly, and as the percentage gets lower the power gets weaker and weaker. It goes kinda like this:
100-85% thrilling, really powerful
85-70% pretty darn fun still
70-50% I wish it was more charged
50-40% still holds good top speeds but the acceleration has reduced considerably
40-20%% it's getting you from a to b with good speed but you know its time to go home
20% and less I rarely ride, it can still pop a wheelie at 20% but its not much fun anymore
@@JuicedJoyrides Thanks for the detailed reply.
I've only had mine less than 3 months and just trying to understand its system better.
I felt it wasn't linear but didn't scientificly test it. Maybe that was due to me using a higher percentage of throttle towards the end of the range than the beginning.
I'll have to download that App you were using... did you mention its name in the vid?
Curious why you didn't go Chi 60v 60ah max battery instead of 72V 38ah compact. Sounded like you were looking for range.
I debated many options. I want more speed too, from what I hear and my experience riding other 72v bikes, it seems like more voltage is the better route to go for more power. I almost got the larger 72v 51ah battery, but ultimately decided to get the 38ah so it will look less goofy, and because the ship time was listed as faster. Going from the stock 60v 32ah battery which is 1920 watt hours to the 72v 38ah is 2736 watt hours is a 42% increase in energy. So riding at the same speeds as the old battery I should see a huge increase in range. I hope I’m happy with my choice, but part of me wonders if I should have gone for the larger 72v.
@@JuicedJoyrides Cant wait to see your results!. Thanks for being the guinea pig for me lol
What is the iPhone speedometer app called? Great if you could share link to it and/or name?
I think its just called speedometer app in iPhone App Store
Are the aftermarket tires more puncture resistant?
Yes. I’d say twice as puncture resistant than the stocks. I also upgraded the tube when I switched to the Shinkos which helps also.
@@gottadrumitup oo nice.. I'm expecting a fat tire ebike soon and hear dof ppl using heavier tires for more puncture resistance
I never got a flat on either tire, but the shinko tires are much thicker and heavier, they sure seem more puncture resistant to me. I’m using the stock inner tubes, probably would have upgraded them but it didn’t cross my mind at the time I ordered my tires.
@@JuicedJoyrides I see. Those surron tires are definitely beefy, I'm sure they'll handle just fine. I found this stuff called FlatOut which seems pretty effect. I'm going to throw some in my tires when I get it
Cool vid my man
thank you!
I would really love to see super charger feature in new e-bikes.
Would be cool to have the charger built into the bike like that, although it does add weight, I think it would be worth it in my case
What app are you using on your phone
Strava, it’s really for cycling, which I do that too, I just click the eBikes activity for this so I’m not stealing PR’s from real cyclists 🚴♂️
@@JuicedJoyrides thx I’ll try it
As an Italian, we need to have a fairly long discussion about the specific hand gestures you're choosing to use while you're talking.
😂 you may need to get a translation from my Italian girlfriend
Kinda looking at one of these. What’s the grinding noise?
Late reply, but I believe his chain is too tight
i hate how u have a 10 dollar bike lock to lock a bike that cost 5 grand if ur gonna spend that much money at least spend 100 dollars on a good lock for it
True, really need to upgrade that too. Gps tracker is on it too
Awesome 😎 thanks brother 🙏
Thank you brother
Impressive ride. I too use Strava to record my rides on my 60v scooter under ebike mode.
How much hate do you get rolling down paths normally used for walking? Great ride!
Every now and then the spandex crew will call me out, 99% of the time people are chill🤙, def get looks 👀
@@JuicedJoyrides Same here with my Bafang DIY, I get looks and comments from people who are ignorant of the law.
what is your daily job haha i would love to be able to afford one of these
Affiliate marketing, real estate investor, also have a second much larger YT channel, but I want to grow this one and make it my “daily job” because it’s what I really enjoy most
@@JuicedJoyrides good job man I look up to you this was a really good quality video!!
Hey your Sur Ron chain noise sounded fairly loud and I only inquire because I had quite the learning curve getting the chain tightness correct on mine and discovered that my bike was loud cause it wasn't right. I only comment out of concern could completely be the microphone picking up that chain noise but maybe your chain could use some adjustment 🤷♂️ otherwise very cool video my city is very boring to ride in when compared to where you get to ride, love it!
Thanks man, you’re def right, need to tighten up the chain again as well as clean it again, the noise creeps up on me and then suddenly I realize it’s super loud and needs maintenance. Where do you ride?
@@JuicedJoyrides definitely don't mean to be negative I just had a week of adjusting before I realized where the chain should sit (I'm used to dirt bike chains) so I'm plenty experienced in the different noises the chain makes haha.
I'm up in Canada but in the flat part so no hills/mountains to ride through unfortunately, just means I'll have to plan a road trip the USA one day and bring the bike along 👌
@@mitchstarr5317 for sure! I think this new renthal chain I put on is stretching out more than my previous chain stretched
@@JuicedJoyrides oh! I didn't even realize it wasn't the stock chain (like I have) lol that could even be part of the reason it sounds different 👍
This was my first video suggested on my feed I've watched of yours, can't wait to dive into the others. Keep it up 🤙
2k for a bike battery holy shit. thats the same price to replace a prius battery
😆 this battery has 3x the energy capacity as the Prius battery, thanks for pointing this out, made for some interesting research and google searches for me!
Awesome video! I noticed you are in the Playa Vista area. I am in Culver City and ride around that area a lot. I ride a onyx RCR. Hit me up if you ever wanna ride together around town.
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Thanks man, would be down to ride, I need to organize something soon
Sounds good! I work from home so I'm up for a ride almost anytime.
So far i love my surron.. mine is stock but works well so far.....i think it gave you an extra 8 miles / 10%
Sweeet, happy riding man!
@@JuicedJoyrides thanks👍... cool video.. I'll check out some other s.. just found this video in my feed... take care
that surron is loud... or are they all like that?
Mine was particularly loud on this day, I actually just posted a new video of the same ride, it might be a little bit quieter now? It’s really my lack of chain maintenance that causes the noise considering converting to belt.
i get like 70km. I bring the charger with me now. Im surprised theres not many nice options to carry your charger while we ride
It’d be great to have a streamlined way to just plug this in to an outlet anywhere or an ev station!
You should photo the location for the charger socket and post it on Google Maps!
there is an app called PlugShare for that, it's helped me find some outlets around the city, it's also led me to some wild goose chases. you can share outlets you find on that app. hope this helps dude!
These type of bike frames is the standard for e biking. Being a very expensive e bike in these ,the market is flooded with ecomical ones starting at 700$ range. Majority of these cheaper ones goes up to the 1000$ range depending on power of motor and so on. Most used the standard 1 piece frame of jus front shocks. E bike speed differs from jus foot power as I found out with 1 piece frame with jus 1 shocks in the front wheel, the comfort when going 20mph is still a bit rough. I bought a Conversion Kit and used sam we typ we of frame as the ones in to his video of 2 piece frame Dual Shocks being a hardtail type. It goes 40mph and way smoother of handling the road much like the suspension from Mercedes-Benz Cars. Knowing the difference ,every future buy or CKit I get, it will always be the 2 piece Dual shock frames I will only use.
Thanks for the comment man, I used a kit to build one in the past back in 2016 and found the same experience as you. The actual mid drive motor conversion made a powerful and fun electric bike, but the lack of suspension is what really killed the vibe of the whole thing. Been loving this bike, happy riding!
Surrons are loud as hell what is that the gear box or the chain
Those e bikes are 😎👍. It's jus not in my world 🌎 of what I can afford. I just went ahead and find similar type of frame as I had 1 bike already I converted. It will be the ER standard type of frame I will always use. The other 1 shock 1 piece frames should be obsolete as the frame is not really fitted to adapt to the speed of e bikes for the various conditions of road or trail.
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What's the top speed for that grade climb
I didn’t attempt top speed climbing the hill, I’d guess it would be able to do mid 40s, about 45mph, but it will drain the battery really quickly and also cause the motor to potentially overheat running too much power up a steep hill for a long time.
use it 2 years, 12k miles a year, all seasons in Alaska, tell me how the battery is then...
I’ll write back and follow up here in September 2024
THOSE ARE SHINKO 244S NOT 241S
What app do you use?
Strava
what seat do you use?
The Luna cycle leather seat
Why is you Surron so loud ? Does it have a chain instead of a belt ?
Yeah, it has a chain, and it’s dirty again. When I clean it the bike gets quieter.
Did you ride this on eco or sport mode?
I had the power set to max, but rarely used more than 70% throttle. I basically rode in an eco style.
What app do you use
Strava
54 tooth sprocket not stock WHICH WAY? Are we supposed to guess?
48 tooth is stock, mine is 54 tooth
Is it a one seater or 2?
definitely designed for 1 person, however I do know a guy who squeezes two people onto it. There is only one set of pegs for 1 riders feet. The suspension would be quite compressed with two people on the bike.
Damn dude, you spent like $10k overall on the surron. Do you think it's better to just get a road legal Storm Bee?
😆 that is a good question
Where can I buy one?
Luna Cycle is one place
Dude, this is way more than enough for most people in small cities, maybe not California but still... :p
For sure, it was plenty when I first got it, but just keep wanting more power and range
the reason the batter was going down realy quickly was because u had ur phone pluged in next time dont have your phone pluged in and the batter might last longer but good video i liked it
Kinda doubt it affects range at all, a phone draws milli-amps, then thing runs on 100 amps ish, The amount of energy the phone would take to charge from 0 to 100% might be enough to power this bike for a 10th of a mile
Its seems you get more range on youre bypassed battery then i on my stock battery i get like 25 miles out of it
The larger sprocket and tires may help there, also I wasn’t giving it the full apple juice🧃I just cruising
I don't follow your channel (until now) and I don't know how tall you are. I'm very tall and I wonder how I would fit on this bike. You look tall, it will help me if I know your height so I could compare. We weight almost the same.
6’5 195 lbs, watch the featured video on my main YT page to see the mods I made to fit a tall person better
14:42 Do we mess or not?
😂 not a chance a cop is saying anything in Hollywood dude, riding an “illegal” ebike through there you basically look like Jesus passing out bread
Isn't the tires the shinko 244's not the 241's. The 244 is much heavier then the 241's
meanwhile my 48v 1100wh (thats been cycled over 1300 times now) can do 60-70km on a single charge, and its a 750w 1400w peak mid drive, with an 8spd, that can tow a car on flat, get up any hill, and do abt 50mph top speed lol
you think my batt will last traveling 42 km distance
U never seen chinese theater? BRO I've been riding on it in Tony Hawk Pro Skater American Wasteland xD
Is there any way to make a Suron street legal?
you can register them as a moped in some areas, also i know you can do things to add tail lights, turn signals, etc
I get 40 miles if I ride eco and go slow. 20 miles if I ride sport and blasting the throttle.
I think thats impressive
Whats the charging time
32ah divided by 10 amp charger = 3.5 hours from empty