Greetings from Tokyo! Thanks for that video. V interesting. Thanks too for the Saily advice. When we recommence our travelling we will definitely look into that. In the meantime - as always - we look forward to the next instalment. P&A
Hey A&L, We have also entertained the idea of buying or renting in Italy or France. Financially renting wins out while owning offers other freedoms. For comparison how is the long term lease situation in the area you are looking? Have you looked at any rental properties? Excited to hear about your next travel destination (drop a clue) and happy house hunting!
In some ways a long term house sit is better than rental but it doesn't solve all the problems. In this region the rental market along the coast is very seasonal and longer term rental options are mostly town based. Financially it's probably cheaper in the short term to rent, but you'll still be stuck with monthly bills and might have to furnish it yourself. Of course to buy has many other challenges but we think it we're smart enough about it, we won't end up with a money pit . Hopefully increase the value or create a summer rental property out of it. Especially having the van, we do need a bit more space around us than what most rental properties offer.
Thanks for the video! Just to clear a little, all the advices you gave are precious and are mostly helpful when you talk about south of italy and rural italy. 😊 If you look for a place in bigger cities like Milan or Turin, it is really difficult to find irregularities because there is really much more control.
The loft house, it has to be the loft house.... I can't wait to learn more about the mystery house. You both seem to love it, I hope it works out for you. They say that variety is the spice of life, well you guys live a very spicy life ! I can't wait to see what you two young ones are up to next. You are a breath of fresh air folks. Stay safe and keep smiling.
🌶️😊 Thanks Ronan! There's a lot to like about the loft house! If everything else goes wrong, we might go back for another look. But we also have to be smart and buy something that is potentially desirable to a future buyer (or even as holiday rental)
It sounds very exciting. Personally I would go for something which doesn’t require as much work as ‘65’. It all seems very romantic until 1 or 2 yrs in and little progress has been made. You don’t want to end up hating the whole thing and selling (which is something I’ve often seen). At least if something is liveable then you can still travel from time to time. BTW Andre, do you also speak Italian?
Agreed. We've come to the same conclusion. We're just not ready for a massive project. Right now, we need a place which is ready to use - even if there's room for a few improvements at a later stage. My (Andre) spoken Italian is very basic but I do understand a reasonable amount. That will have to change pretty fast 😋
I wonder if you have seen The Travel Beans who are RUclipsrs. They are a British couple who travel and recently bought an old Sicilian town property. Because there was no planning for internal changes made by the previous owners, all this had to be removed, so much more work than first thought.
Love your videos!! You were advertising Saily I know they are one of your sponsors, and it sounds like a good deal, but I have found that my US Tmobile android phone works both in Europe and Asia as well as Mexican and I have unlimited texting.
US TMobile is brilliant for travel! While in Italy we're flush with data and even around most of the EU it's not a huge challenge to roam for shorter periods. It's really for the shorter trips where the e-sim is super handy.
Keep driving lads, the grass is not always greener ! if you have that kind of money put it into a new van and keep the journey alive, you have too much energy to stand still and get tied to a money pit.
😋 We're not 'settling down' by a long shot. Just adding another variable. We're quite happy to accept that phases are an inevitable part of life and we're also happy to accept that nothing has to be permanent.
I understand the life on wheels can reach the point of oversaturation (technical term for: got bored, tired of, sick of, exhausted etc...), but so can be static life in one place. Especially if it happens in that order - life on wheels and then static one in one place. Once you get the traveling bug it never dies off. The difference is when you get bored of living on wheels, it is always easier to switch to static life. But when you decide to go back on the road again, you cannot just sell the property and move in the motorhome again. By then you invested so much into the home and it is not only money. It is much harder to part away to justify getting back on road. So while it all looks exiting now, when you look at the things you desire now and when those desires change it will be too late and too hard to just change your mind. Your intention is to get the home, keep it and then get back on the road when you feel like. Leaving the home behind. In my opinion if you do this, the best thing is to get something cheap and something less demanding for renovations. Something you will have no problems just turning the key in the lock, jump on the wheels and head for a new adventure. This means you have to sacrifice. You have to sacrifice your ideal place of the home you will buy, the layout and size of the rooms and the location (proximity to the beach etc). I am not saying you have to get some shed in the middle of nowhere, but unless you are really settling down, dont spend too much on it. Don't look at the positive sides of the properties according to what you desire now. Try to spend less money and time on renovations. Once more, it is not only the money you have to pay for it but you will invest yourself into it. And rule of thumb is no matter how much will be the total cost on the paper including the renovations it will always be much more at the end. This is only my opinion, I may be wrong but if not, dont let your current excitement cost you too much later. There are too many variables as they are now but the unforeseen variables are those which will bite you back later. Anyways, I wish you a good luck and happy new home whichever you decide to get.
As always you make some good points, thanks for that 😊 We're quite happy to accept that phases are an inevitable part of life and we're also happy to accept that nothing has to be permanent. We did not get to this phase of our life by sheer coincidence and luck. Making decisions with the best information currently available is something we take very seriously. But, as you say, emotion has a sneaky way of tricking you into make some 'less calculated' choices. 😋 In essence we agree that we should not invest too much time and effort (no project house) and secondly make sure we buy a sellable property.
@@WeWillNomad I am confident you will make a good decision at the end. You dont leave impression you are one of those people who make impulsive decisions (except when you decide where next when you are on the wheels), and if you make any mistake at the end, it will not be a catastrophic one. I found this young British couple on RUclips who just bought their first cheap house in Sicily. OK they have different goals as they plan to permanently settle down but the process of getting new house in Sicily is similar. If you have time you can have a look what problems they faced before, during and after they bought the property and moved in. I think it is interesting. I never followed other videos they have on their site but I just looked at those about buying a new home there. www.youtube.com/@TravelBeans Also they talked to someone more experienced about buying a €1 home and what kind of traps are waiting for those buyers. Interesting. ruclips.net/video/3nJjN53ejjM/видео.htmlsi=WMW8jRqPwHmDx1cF
We've been following the Beans for a while already. What they experienced with irregularities is a typical problem in many areas. It's even more pronounced with property on agricultural land.
Really good vid. 👍 Apart from power & water l think the main problem is tradesmen, not many will be fighting over remote jobs....but by now l'd be surprised if there were not English speaking companies for this very market? I'm looking in Spain, away from the cities for cost but near enough to a beach to cycle there.
Thanks! There might very well be English speaking companies, but they probably operate in a very niche market segment. From what we've learned a lot of trade is still very 'local' as it depends on the region and the municipal requirements. Generally, water and electricity are not a big challenge - it just takes time. Same goes for plan approvals and building permits. But we've realised we're not ready for a massive project.
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Greetings from Tokyo! Thanks for that video. V interesting. Thanks too for the Saily advice. When we recommence our travelling we will definitely look into that. In the meantime - as always - we look forward to the next instalment. P&A
Hello friends! Tokyo! 😁 Must be our first views ever from Japan 🤣 Have a great time! 🤗
Your excitement is so tangible! We got excited for you too!! Lots of really interesting considerations. Good luck again! 🥰 RnR xx
Thank you so much!! ❤️
All the best. Fingers crossed for you 🙏
Hey A&L, We have also entertained the idea of buying or renting in Italy or France. Financially renting wins out while owning offers other freedoms. For comparison how is the long term lease situation in the area you are looking? Have you looked at any rental properties?
Excited to hear about your next travel destination (drop a clue) and happy house hunting!
In some ways a long term house sit is better than rental but it doesn't solve all the problems. In this region the rental market along the coast is very seasonal and longer term rental options are mostly town based. Financially it's probably cheaper in the short term to rent, but you'll still be stuck with monthly bills and might have to furnish it yourself. Of course to buy has many other challenges but we think it we're smart enough about it, we won't end up with a money pit . Hopefully increase the value or create a summer rental property out of it. Especially having the van, we do need a bit more space around us than what most rental properties offer.
@@WeWillNomad for me, a major pro is having the option of space to lock up belongings that may not be required for every trip
Best of luck to you guys with all you exciting plans and adventures!
Thank you!
Thanks for the video! Just to clear a little, all the advices you gave are precious and are mostly helpful when you talk about south of italy and rural italy. 😊 If you look for a place in bigger cities like Milan or Turin, it is really difficult to find irregularities because there is really much more control.
Thanks for that. There's probably also more problems with these rural type properties.
wish you luck guys! so happy for you
Thanks! ❤️
Good luck Wihte the house bying
😊😊😊
Thank you!
The loft house, it has to be the loft house.... I can't wait to learn more about the mystery house. You both seem to love it, I hope it works out for you. They say that variety is the spice of life, well you guys live a very spicy life ! I can't wait to see what you two young ones are up to next. You are a breath of fresh air folks. Stay safe and keep smiling.
🌶️😊 Thanks Ronan! There's a lot to like about the loft house! If everything else goes wrong, we might go back for another look. But we also have to be smart and buy something that is potentially desirable to a future buyer (or even as holiday rental)
It sounds very exciting. Personally I would go for something which doesn’t require as much work as ‘65’. It all seems very romantic until 1 or 2 yrs in and little progress has been made. You don’t want to end up hating the whole thing and selling (which is something I’ve often seen). At least if something is liveable then you can still travel from time to time.
BTW Andre, do you also speak Italian?
Agreed. We've come to the same conclusion. We're just not ready for a massive project. Right now, we need a place which is ready to use - even if there's room for a few improvements at a later stage. My (Andre) spoken Italian is very basic but I do understand a reasonable amount. That will have to change pretty fast 😋
@@WeWillNomadnext question, do you speak French? Or German? Or Dutch?
@@susie9893 None of those. But we understand Dutch. Not much use in Italy 😁
@@WeWillNomad true, but I've often wondered who does the bulk of the translating when you're not in Italy or Spain?
Thank youuu! 🎉
😜
I wonder if you have seen The Travel Beans who are RUclipsrs. They are a British couple who travel and recently bought an old Sicilian town property. Because there was no planning for internal changes made by the previous owners, all this had to be removed, so much more work than first thought.
Yes! We follow the Beans!
Happy Base Hunting 😊
Remember "The Day you Buy ..
Is the Day you Sell "
Stay Free and Safe Travels 😀 🙏 ✨
Wise words that. It's shouldn't just be driven by emotion. We're painfully aware of the realities. 😋
Yes that is very true...one has to be careful 👍🤣
Love your videos!! You were advertising Saily I know they are one of your sponsors, and it sounds like a good deal, but I have found that my US Tmobile android phone works both in Europe and Asia as well as Mexican and I have unlimited texting.
US TMobile is brilliant for travel! While in Italy we're flush with data and even around most of the EU it's not a huge challenge to roam for shorter periods. It's really for the shorter trips where the e-sim is super handy.
Keep driving lads, the grass is not always greener ! if you have that kind of money put it into a new van and keep the journey alive, you have too much energy to stand still and get tied to a money pit.
😋 We're not 'settling down' by a long shot. Just adding another variable. We're quite happy to accept that phases are an inevitable part of life and we're also happy to accept that nothing has to be permanent.
Guys, come on, why not show us the 3rd property? your teasing us😂. It's great to see you both so excited. 👍🐸
They're afraid one of us will buy it before they do! 🤣
@adriannavanderpoll4745 you are probably right, Adrianna 👍🐸
Perhaps we'll show a little bit... But we don't want to jinx it 🤣
This is a public space - they share too much they lose bargaining power
@susie9893 OK, Susie, consider myself told 👍🐸
Looks a nice lot 🎉
I understand the life on wheels can reach the point of oversaturation (technical term for: got bored, tired of, sick of, exhausted etc...), but so can be static life in one place. Especially if it happens in that order - life on wheels and then static one in one place. Once you get the traveling bug it never dies off. The difference is when you get bored of living on wheels, it is always easier to switch to static life. But when you decide to go back on the road again, you cannot just sell the property and move in the motorhome again. By then you invested so much into the home and it is not only money. It is much harder to part away to justify getting back on road. So while it all looks exiting now, when you look at the things you desire now and when those desires change it will be too late and too hard to just change your mind. Your intention is to get the home, keep it and then get back on the road when you feel like. Leaving the home behind. In my opinion if you do this, the best thing is to get something cheap and something less demanding for renovations. Something you will have no problems just turning the key in the lock, jump on the wheels and head for a new adventure. This means you have to sacrifice. You have to sacrifice your ideal place of the home you will buy, the layout and size of the rooms and the location (proximity to the beach etc). I am not saying you have to get some shed in the middle of nowhere, but unless you are really settling down, dont spend too much on it. Don't look at the positive sides of the properties according to what you desire now. Try to spend less money and time on renovations. Once more, it is not only the money you have to pay for it but you will invest yourself into it. And rule of thumb is no matter how much will be the total cost on the paper including the renovations it will always be much more at the end.
This is only my opinion, I may be wrong but if not, dont let your current excitement cost you too much later. There are too many variables as they are now but the unforeseen variables are those which will bite you back later.
Anyways, I wish you a good luck and happy new home whichever you decide to get.
Happy Base Hunting 😊
Remember the "Day you Buy .. Is the Day you Sell" 🎉🎉
Stay Free and Safe Travels 😀 🙏 😊
As always you make some good points, thanks for that 😊 We're quite happy to accept that phases are an inevitable part of life and we're also happy to accept that nothing has to be permanent. We did not get to this phase of our life by sheer coincidence and luck. Making decisions with the best information currently available is something we take very seriously. But, as you say, emotion has a sneaky way of tricking you into make some 'less calculated' choices. 😋 In essence we agree that we should not invest too much time and effort (no project house) and secondly make sure we buy a sellable property.
@@WeWillNomad I am confident you will make a good decision at the end. You dont leave impression you are one of those people who make impulsive decisions (except when you decide where next when you are on the wheels), and if you make any mistake at the end, it will not be a catastrophic one. I found this young British couple on RUclips who just bought their first cheap house in Sicily. OK they have different goals as they plan to permanently settle down but the process of getting new house in Sicily is similar. If you have time you can have a look what problems they faced before, during and after they bought the property and moved in. I think it is interesting. I never followed other videos they have on their site but I just looked at those about buying a new home there.
www.youtube.com/@TravelBeans
Also they talked to someone more experienced about buying a €1 home and what kind of traps are waiting for those buyers. Interesting.
ruclips.net/video/3nJjN53ejjM/видео.htmlsi=WMW8jRqPwHmDx1cF
We've been following the Beans for a while already. What they experienced with irregularities is a typical problem in many areas. It's even more pronounced with property on agricultural land.
what languages do you speak in total?
Really good vid. 👍 Apart from power & water l think the main problem is tradesmen, not many will be fighting over remote jobs....but by now l'd be surprised if there were not English speaking companies for this very market? I'm looking in Spain, away from the cities for cost but near enough to a beach to cycle there.
Thanks! There might very well be English speaking companies, but they probably operate in a very niche market segment. From what we've learned a lot of trade is still very 'local' as it depends on the region and the municipal requirements. Generally, water and electricity are not a big challenge - it just takes time. Same goes for plan approvals and building permits. But we've realised we're not ready for a massive project.
Hey, you forgot to talk about your next trip!
Oops 😁
@WeWillNomad 😆
Next video??
Definitely! 😊
🤗
property hunt in Denmark is much easier........
Funny story, we actually looked at some places in Denmark. Then we thought about the weather.. 😋
@@WeWillNomad well, the weather is an issue...... :oD
never completely trust a real estate agent........😜😜.
Wise words 🤣 Cheers Fabio!
:)
WhatsApp....Google translate!
Given my experience with Google translate there's no way I'd trust it with something that complicated and important
Ok ... didn't mean to use it solely but to have it at hand to make sure one is on the same page 😂
@@annettemccabe3669 but I could tell you hilarious stories (blunders) using Google translate
Please tell me 😂
@@annettemccabe3669 they're largely healthcare related so range from confidential to just plain gross (but in hilarious ways!)
:)