Jordan Peterson - Do You Want To Have A Life? Or Be Exceptional At One Thing?
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Psychology Professor Dr. Jordan B. Peterson on how and why to balance career and personal life, unless you really want to sacrifice everything for a unidimensional career.
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1) If one takes a mediocre job and has a life he'll live his life wondering what it would've been like if he had worked hard and progressed in his career.
2) If one goes after his career and doesn't have a life he'll start wondering what it would've been like if he had a life.
It's called being human, we can never achieve complete satisfaction.
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He was unhappy in this particular video. He just said that one shouldn't go for being good at one thing, but one should have kids, as it was a way to take for grant happiness.
When I have my billion dollars, perfect health, and loving family in a safe first world country, then I will consider it a complete satisfaction.
actually you can, it's called being in the moment or living with the flow, or simply dao or nirvana, it's true happiness and liberation from suffering of the mind
Take what you want and deal with it, it’s a lot better than taking what you don’t want and dealing with it.
I'm a uni-dimensional man. I have no life. I'm exceptional at watching videos.
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aoeu256 lmaooooo
Me too man
Last First damn that hit home haha
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4:37 - I love - LOVE when Peterson starts to say something, stops for a moment, and then re-corrects with different wording. He understands the importance of selecting exactly the right words to represent what he means, and isn't afraid to halt the sentence (effectively admitting he's saying it wrong) in order to avoid miscommunication. It's really an indicator of enormous integrity.
One of the twelve rules for Life ! “Be precise with your word”
I like how he asked god for the correct words there lol
Beautifully put :)
“You’re not your job” - fight club
Well said dad
LAHWFextra "how about you quote yourself"- Anonymous
LAHWFextra Ot4y Ot4y!
LAHWFextra The fuck i just came here from your video 😂
Whops
Every time I hear Peterson speak, I feel I get grounded again to my goals. Not many people can do this for me.
Golden Wizard Traditionalism isn't the worship of the ashes, Its the preservation of fire.
Mind explaining?
now preach the gospel out there
Alan Caro same here:)
Sure. He reminds me of the consequences of not doing certain things. He also gives examples of what you need to do to excel in a field and the sacrifices that come from that. Like he has said before, you put hell behind you and heaven in front to optimize motivation. Listening to Peterson reminds me and clarifies what heaven and hell is for me.
they need to teach this to kids. It took me 12 years to figure this shit out
Alekk Wolf you should "probably" read some biology...
dodecachordon What's your story?
I'm a kid. Congrats internet.
Sanjay Khosh save?
@dodecachordon I second you and I praise you 'cause you figured it out 3 years sooner than I
It's so funny so many people think themselves as one-dimensional overachievers but still have time to watch random youtube videos AND comment on them, with lengthy paragraphs.
Manos it’s educational. Nothing wrong with this
Tbh I'm probably one of those people, but its probably due to my age that means I'm still developing and figuring out who I am. I'd say a lot of these people who see themselves as one-dimensional probably do this because they feel uninteresting or unappealing to others.
Tldr: The people that see themselves like that probs just feel lonely
There is no contradiction here if your one dimension is watching random videos and commenting them)
Manos
Watching a 5 minute video and commenting on it probably doesn’t take more than 15-20 minutes (if it’s very lengthy). I’m sure even someone with a _very_ busy schedule can manage it if it’s a subject he/she is interested about.
PD: This comment didn’t take more than 3 minutes to write.
well, its not like its exclusive. also do people?
“Strive not to be a success, but rather to be of value.” - Albert Einstein
"Albert Eintein." - Albert Einstein
successful people are of value
@@bahayesilyurt1510 "the cause of all dumpness is Baha Yesilyurt" ~ Albert Einstein
Trade school is where it’s at, you work on your time to make decent money because not all money is good money if you can’t have a life
I'm exceptional at taking advice and never using it.
Same
Take notes brotha
That's great advice. I'm not using it.
Physics for Lisa - Come on now have respect, you certainly were lurking at his picture.....
Haha bruhcmon
"You can have anything you want, just not everything."
Thing is... exceptional people LOVE what they do. No one can tell you how to live your life. Some people enjoy working hard, studying hard, even if it means to sacrifice social life, if they ever had any.
But some people, just like me, or many other people, actually love being ordinary. I figured this out when I was a kid, I always knew that I didn't want to be special or a future billionaire. My parents wanted me to be gifted and exceptional, but what's wrong in being ordinary? Living a simple life, trying to grasp all of the goods of this life that matters to YOU.
At the end of the day I am gonna die, and it doesn't matter whether people will remember me or not, cause I won't be there. But at least, on my deathbed, I'll know I had a good life, the life I wanted.
Even if I'll ever become richer, I don't want billions, nor millions. And if I had those, I would donate the money, or invest in public facilities, public healthcare, museums, researches.
if i had a billion dollars first thing i would do is fix TFL lol, second thing is buy a small farmhouse with a metal workshop
Without the uni-dimensional folks of the world, the ordinary couldn't live their ordinary lives and provide for their families, period. Those that strive for greatness in one aspect of life find enjoyment in what they accomplish and can rest easy knowing how many families' their tireless pursuit supports. The world needs both to prosper.
Exactly. Thank god for people like them I can now get a nap.
@@amateruss LOL
Indeed
So true. We need CEO’s BUT realize the downside of it. I work in a fortune 500 company and the execs (one level up from me) work non stop. Both men and woman. Peterson nailed it. It’s a life choice. Like becoming a Buddhist monk. All in and after having been in corporate life for 30 years I don’t believe in you can have it all. Again Peterson nailed it.
Not necessarily. Instead of one person working for 70 h/week, you could have 2 persons working for 40 h/week and it may even be more beneficial to the task, because you have two brains cooperating and bringing in different perspectives on the issue. On the other hand, if you talk about personal gains, probably the one working 70 h/week will have a higher position, earn more and have more status, plus might be more satisfied by what he does is really it that is his only purpose in life and wants nothing else but that.
This is my grandfather spot on. He was born in the great depression, in the dustbowl, forged his SS card lying about his age and ran away to the marines at age 14. they put him through college and He became a theoretical particle physicist and was instrumental in creating the supercollider. He worked for berkely, nasa, texas a&m, fermilab and cern. the man slept 4 hours a night. he would wake up at 3 or 4 am. clean his entire house, run 6 miles with his dogs all before 6 or 7 am then he would get in his little private plane. ( he lives in a pilot community so all house have hangars and runways in the back, then he would fly off to where ever he was working for the day. He lived all over europe and the united states, NY, Chicago, England, Germany, Italy. Truly one of the most accomplished men i have ever known. But he sacrificed his happiness, He sacrificed the love of his family. He never had any leisure time and he was highly tyranical. I remember he would inspect your room after you clean it with a surgical glove and if he found dust , up on a door ledge or anywhere,he would beat you with the belt until you bled. In fact he beat my stepdad and uncle so bad he sent them to the ICU on several occasions. However he then used his incredible ties to the government to have all charges dropped every time. He was so highly tyranical in fact every male he attempted to rear went the exact opposite of him and his boys all turned out criminals. Moral of the story, he was a one in a billion man who did great things but he also paid great great prices to do so.
Deep story bro.. hope you didn´t get some of that beating!
Cheryl Lynne i second Cheryl lynn's question
Here's my guess: Whenever those sorts of questions cropped up the invariable response was something along the lines of IT NEVER DID ME ANY HARM!!!!! as loud as they possibly can, internally if it seems impolite to do so externally. And if he realised anything, it's that he helped create the supercollider and if the kids factored in at all all he probably felt was an intense disgust, contempt or resentment that they deviated from his standards. They were never real people to him. And the worst thing is that there'd be no point in even putting the guy in intensive care with a belt, he'd never feel the pain he inflicted, just wronged. There's not any revenge to be had against people like that. Or forgiveness. The best option there is, is forgetting the and what they imparted. And how could you feel anything other than being robbed and horrifically wronged by such an option.
dunno, don't feel any pleasure in doing it cold blooded.
Nicolis Clark I
on the flipside I had a bro who really wanted kids and did the fertility thing for 6 years, he finally had a perfectly healthy and bright baby boy @ the age of 35. I've never seen someone more happy in my life. It was very touching :)
I *love* that he stops himself, he talks to himself, and corrects himself when he realizes that those words may not convey what he's *really* trying to say. Talk about conscientiousness. bloody brilliant.
@music.sing.live: Yes, very interesting that you notice this . . . and admire it. Because I find that to be one of the best things about listening to Peterson: you get not only content (knowledge) but process (understanding). It's not repetition/recall/regurgitation of ready made sound bytes -- but actual applied THINKING . . .
@@QED_ precisely! it's not merely a man piggy backing off the work of brilliant philosophers and wisdom literature, but he's really trying to *teach*, have people apply the knowledge, to focus on what you're really trying to say and be, and to make sure you're living a life of purpose, not merely just existence.
Me: Elon musk what did it cost you
Elon: everything [else]
But he did it for us ❤.
He'll save humans.
I think it will be worth it if you are curing cancer or something
This is funny, but Elon doesn’t fit this archetype. He still has a family, kids, plenty of friends with a few ex-wives and some movie stars on the side, not to mention billions of dollars worth of assets. Just manage your time, and you’ll be alright.
@BeAn BeAn says who? what is the proper amount of time to spend with your family and friends? There are 168hrs in a week, even if you worked 70-80hrs a week and got a full nights sleep, you'd still have over 30hrs of free time to fuck around with. Elon's only complained when he was pushing 100-120hrs and sleeping in the factory. But to each his own I guess.
@@fatboyRAY24 he said it. Back then. Though he says he tries to show his work to his kids and they find it boring
It's refreshing to see a professor daring enough to explain that men and women tend to think and operate differently, an idea that modern feminism shuns.
I'm super feminazi and I know women and men are wired completely differently. We are not equal by any means or on any scale.
@Touran Wolf I would disagree with that. Woman are allowed to go to many many different paths. They can spend time in their field of study, especially considering how society glorifies women who spend time in their field of study, they can become a housewife or they can do whatever else they like. Men, on the other hand, can not. They have to either make money, or they are considered losers or failures.
I seriously don't know many feminists who would argue the fact that women and men are in general very different. Of course we're different. Doesn't mean that we should get paid less or have a higher risk of ending up poor, though. And Peterson was also very clear that he doesn't speak about "all men" and "all women".
I would say men and women are wired VERY differently; and those differences should be celebrated, not minimized or trivialized. I love Peterson's analysis on this. It clearly illustrates that women are not better or worse than men, or vice versa, but they are very different creatures.
Feminist are like mad dogs they don't think about what they are protecting or if it is worth they Just atack Who dares to say a thing or share opinion about how it should be
This's 1000% true. Me and my friends are young physicists (1-3 years after PhD), so I spoke from my and their experience. It's possible to be exceptional and maybe have one thing outside of academia e.g. climbing. However to: be a good parent, travel a lot, have a rich social life, hiking, climbing, taking care for your look (for girls) is simply impossible. Or maybe if you are very very well disciplined, and every 10 minutes of your life is well planed...
I have worked with plenty of women whose marriages didn’t work out later in life and DEEPLY regret not pursuing more school or work related experience before starting a family. Struggling to pay bills as a retail clerk sucks. At least work hard & study before you start a family, so that you have something to fall back on when life throws you a curve ball.
He never says that women should drop everything to become housewives,he's saying that most people,man and women included,would be better of trying to live a more balanced life than to pursue just one thing,if you think about it those women you knew would be better of following his advice,most of them probably disregarded other aspects of their lives and focused only on their marriage.
If its a bad idea to focus everything into a job then its probably a bad idea to focus everything you have into your marriage,because if it collapses you have nothing left. You can focus on your career without working 80 hours a week,you can have friends and hobbies without spending all your time on them,you can have a good marriage without it being the only thing in your life.
Spread out,dont put all your eggs in one basket is what he's saying i think. Just watch the video again and change "career" for "marriage" and you'll see it applies too.
The most inspiring man I have ever watched - completely changed my life.
I bought his book 1 year ago and even made a video about my transformation if someone is interested.
Have a nice day. Life is suffering, but take the world on your shoulders and bear your responsibility in order to have a meaningful life.
Which book you bought
I feel mentally healthier when I listen to the good doctor. Peterson is like vitamins for the mind.
I love how he always has a regular drink on his desk i.e. diet cola or a shake etc. He doesn't pretend to be healthy person posing with a green juice or water. He's just genuinely human.
I don’t think water or green juice means he is posing though. It just depends on the person.
Holy shit. I wish you could have spoken to me 20 years ago. This entire video clip is packed with knowledge that clears up so much bullshit and throws it out of your brain. Listen attentively to every word he says.
Gnome Party calm down
I can relate so much to this so much. I’m a scientist and a year ago I used to spend long hours in the lab and hardly gave myself time to recuperate during weekends and never took holidays all so i could make progress in my career. I reached a point where it all became too much and I sunk into depression and anxiety. I managed to pull myself out of that hole and realized there’s more to life than just my career. Now I manage my time better and take time out to do activities that make me feel whole like painting or boxing or reading. Always put your mental health first
I am 31 this year, and I feel I'm at the crossroad of whether to continue with my boring but highly paid career or find a new life. It's now or never.
feralbear3615 find a new life man, do what you love, apply your success making tactics to it and feel the vigour of being alive once again!!!
feralbear3615 use your job to finance new goals. I’ve been in a crappy job and felt stuck the past 3-4 years. Should have taken the classes I’m in now the moment I felt the urge to do what I dreamed of.
5 months later, what’s going on?
What's your job?
When I studied chiropractics, the oldest one of our classmates was 50. It is NEVER too late, to be happy.
You know what they say, after 31 it's too late... #totallyjustmadethisup
Growing up, I always heard people say that being in a top level position was the dream, but to me it always sounded like a living hell. This is largely due to my own laziness, but I could just never fathom why people would want to be like this. My uncle was like this, he's VP of his company and is very wealthy, which is nice for his wife and child, but it's not like he gets many opportunities to leisurely spend his own wealth or see his family due to his intense work schedule. Really, what's the point in being a successful person if you can't even enjoy the fruits of it?
I agree. Some people just want to be in a socially high position just for the sake of it. It's actually sad.
Raw Gameplay for me bills is what stresses me out, I put myself in a position where I live so simply I all I worry about is my insurance bill. So life is good lol. There are people that want that busy life but as long as it makes them happy, maybe we aren't meant to understand why they like it like that. It may look depressing from your perspective but people are different.
Don Ventura this is me. On my exams, I shoot for 100. If I get a 96, Im walking away thinking "what the fuck did I get wrong"? I think we need to look at something here: there is ENJOYMENT IN THE FEELING of achievement. Maybe the attainment of those fruits is just as enjoyable as the utilization of them. Different personalities react differently to things.
It's worth it if your job is your calling and passion.
I know there are people who feel this way, but that's just something that's simply incomprehensible to me.
I am always torn by this question. I am a 25 years old aerospace engineer, I speak fluently 4 languages and I am training for a triathlon. I would like to achieve something exceptional in my career, but I want to learn at the same time so many things in so many fields, live some adventures and have a family. I am obviously living a balanced life, but I can't accept the fact that if I continue living this way, I won't become exceptional in one field. I feel that both choices are dead end. How can I be really happy if I am not exceptional ? But how can I be exceptional in a field if I don't let aside some things that make me happy ?
I am 21 and i feel the exact same way, i want a family but I genuinely believe it might become an obstacle, the tricky thing is, i am a woman, if i want to have a family i will have to settle down at least when i reach 30, i’ll be a dentist in two years and i am currently studying maths, bc im planning on studying physics when I graduate, i am also learning chinese and spanish atm, and I’m planing to learn st least 2 more languages right after, along with piano, flute, programming and miscellaneous other stuff, it’s never enough. I wonder if i’ll ever be content with myself
@@celinek.1094 I have written this comment 4 years ago, so I changed a bit my perception since then. I still do not have kids, I still pursue many hobbies and I am still not exceptional in one thing. However, I really enjoy my life and I am stressed free. I know that I will need to sacrifice some things when I decide to have kids and right now I am not ready for it. Even if you are a woman, you still have plenty of time to pursue your career/hobbies. You can start a family at 35 if you want. Don't feel pressured. You can be content with yourself, but you'll need to accept that you have to let down some stuff.
@@jammingboss thanks a lot Xavier :)) i tend to stress out like mad whenever i think about my future, reading your comment genuinely helped me unwind
I hope you have a flourishing, meaningful life
Thanks for putting me out i feel exactly same! Ps: I'm a girl and I'm 19.
You can be happy without being exceptional dude
Every time I am feeling confused in my life, I naturally start watching Peterson's videos and slowly things start to make sense.
Tbh it took me 21 years to realize that. How do you seek wholeness in a society who expect you to be perfect
seek from within
Redache it might be just that u r the only in the society to expect u to be perfect.
He talks about being unidimensional in a very narrow sense. I believe almost all the great inventions of the world have come from people who led unidimensional lives. A lot of passion and sacrifices are involved. We got to respect that.
But at the same time, being unidimensional in a corporate set up for money or helping achieving someone else's goals is a bad decision.
A balanced life is an ordinary life. And ordinary is always a blessing. Sad thing is most people who have it, don't realise that.
"being unidimensional in a corporate set up for money or helping achieving someone else's goals is a bad decision." - This case is that this is not the case. The "boss" worked harder and presented more risk by starting from nothing than the employee did. Both people pay, different prices at and over different time periods.
ordinary isnt interesting enough. Thats the logic that peopel think of
I love your point, he himself is quite unidimensional. Having a wife and kids doesnt make you "multidimentional"
@@nineseven62 "The Boss" in most instances is a trust fund baby that inherited his father's (because mostly men) fortune.
@@justingt3rs Exactly, he himself has said he has a very high IQ, is 99%ile in conscientiousness, works 80+ hours a week and is hyper efficient in his work. Textbook unidimensionality.
I find this fascinating, from personal experience being a “70 hour work week” kinda person... I think deep down (at least for me) my drive is rooted in my desire for a balanced life, contradictory I know, but I’ll explain...
From where I’m standing I don’t really think I have another option. Maybe it’s our current climate, or the circumstances I was born into, but from a pragmatic standpoint, the things I want (like an eventual family, comfortable living space, experiences, travel opportunities and interesting hobbies) all revolve around me and my work. All these things require in some way my career success. For example, a family only happens if you can afford it, so better have a good paying job. Travel is a part of my job if I am of a successful level. A comfortable living space requires money. My hobbies cost me money. All these things hover around financial or social success, and so my drive is more about wanting balance than it is wanting one thing to be great.
Now I will say, I may be unique in this category, I’m not sure? One thing is sure however, I don’t plan on 70 hour weeks for the rest of my life, absolutely not. I would like to hope I can put that work in now (being relatively young) so I can take my foot off the gas later.
What do you guys think? Anyone want to share their experiences?
This Man made me from a loser good for nothing to a book loving knowledge hunter and which made me balance my life. May Allah bless this guy. He changed so many lives. God bless him.
Jordan really hits home with these videos...... I mean really. No bullshit, just straight truth. This is quite an uncommon reality nowadays, people are often given advise that they want to hear, sugar coated if you will. Mr peterson earns my respect for his purity of advise.
Misconception-discipline equals lack of freedom
You want something? You need discipline, period. Relationships, jobs, life, everything is achieved by discipline. Some people may not get this from the video since he talks about focus and dedication in science like it restricts it. But thats because its only one form of discipline.
The point he's trying to make is that discipline is relative. The person who is disciplined but balanced will not achieve the same thing as the person who is pathologically obsessed and has absolutely no other aspects to their lives and personality. The first can be reasonably successful if not awesomely remarkable. The second can't help but be awesomely remarkable when it is all that they do and think about. A person who is a reasonably good chess player will always lose to someone whose purpose in life is nothing but chess (unless of course that chessmaster was having a very very bad day; but we know we can't count on that). The moral of the story is that you pay a price for being the best at what you do. This is why super geniuses tend to be somewhat "off", "odd", or "creepy". And this is why folks who are the " absolute best at what they do" often have little else to talk about other than what they do.
I like the way he says something - "The most unhappy people you'll ever see....No, no...one of the most common routes to unhappiness". He's sensitive to the truth, precision and exaggeration.
The Good Doctor could not be more right on all counts. I am a creative/entrepreneur and am pioneering an industry.
I describe myself as a JetFighter and Firefighter: I'm constantly be scrambled to put out fires. I have ZERO life and even less friends, but I also couldn't be happier!
The unfortunate part I've learned after taking Dr.Peterson's personality assessment is I'm super-high in agreeableness - which, as the Doc has eluded to, explains a yearning for an intimate relationship (not just a Tinderlude).
I was quite pleased to hear the Doc suggest once I've reached the top of many hierarchies - which I will, I will be somewhat more appealing to great gal with a kind heart and a joyful mind. Till then, back to work.
I thank God every chance I get for all my blessings and for bringing the Good Doctor into my life - however virtual.
Know thyself, and the world will know you.
Tell the truth.
And for Chrissakes clean your damn room!
Not everything Peterson says is true. Don't ever idolize anyone.
Doran Martell I agree
I think that your comment won't do much. The people who idolize have already idolized and nothing can stop them. For someone to worship, it takes some sacrifice of their individuality in order to do so. And if they already worship, then they've already made that sacrifice. That part of them that's been sacrificed is not easy to reclaim/alter; it'd take some time for them to see the other side.
People are not aware enough to understand when they've worshipped something. But it would appear to me that everyone needs to worship something in order to continue living. Although to worship is no bad thing.
Like Peterson has said, he doesn't believe that the world is made out of matter. He believes that it's made out of what matters. And I would agree. We take a leap of faith when we decide to live for reason. For meaning. To live without meaning, we're as good as dead, no?
I don't mention faith because I'm a theist; as I'm an atheist.
Jordan Peterson would say that the passion we develop to live our lives would be like a religious awe.
Everyday, when I wake up in the morning, I have faith that it's another day for me to better myself. It wouldn't be so wrong to say that I worship the concept of self-development. It's my reason for being alive.
Perhaps it would seem like I am twisting what the word "worship" to mean. But when I observe more, I see the faith of my life to be similar to anyone else's, whether they're god worshippers, money worshippers, or whatever else. I guess you could say that I worship my life. It's just hope, really. And everyone has hope. If you're still alive... you still have hope in something. And when you're suicidal, it's because you're running out of hope.
I sincerely apologize for this comment of mine, because I just allowed my mind to go wherever it wanted to. I apologize if it doesn't make sense.
Edit: It makes sense... at least to me: worship essentially is, to have faith in something that is greater than yourself. And that greater thing, is a mentally invented idea/concept/construct.
I have no guarantees for how my life will turn out. But everyday I have faith in that concept within my mind... that concept that I will be an even greater and more vibrant existence than I am now. I have that to look forward to. I'm willing to sacrifice myself for that. But the things is... is that that abstract concept of mine is absolutely uncertain. Nothing is guaranteed. But that's what faith is. That's exactly what faith is. And whether you see yourself as an atheist or a theist... You have faith in _something._
A healthy skeptism is the way to go through life.
T'was an old username and I'll change it soon. The problem seems to erupt there doesn't it? Its the same way that people like Bob Dylan and John Lennon become historically untouchable. They have entertained a desire, and we put them above ourselves as people. I used to idolize many myself. It is very comforting too, but it destroys what little individuality we can pretend for ourselves.
Jordan Peterson is simply a mouthpiece for a number of unorganized philosophies. Those which make no attempts to remain feasible when compared. He is wrong about most things, the whole reason I am here is because my friend told me to. He helped me to realize that these series of videos could be attributed to anyone. Yet the views come from "Jordan Peterson". He is then untouchable by a great majority (especially if he is being used for one's own political agenda).
Philosophy as a whole suffers from this notion. After all, different parts of life, demand different thought processes, and different interpretations. I guess its like this--
How can you live your own life, by the way someone writes about their own?
What is he wrong about? He is just expressing what he knows. And these things don't attribute to just anyone. Philosophy is a bunch of questions and ideas. You can take the ideas and you can contemplate the questions if you want to or not. If you end up analyzing them, you may construct yourself sensible principles/ideas if you're intelligible enough to do so.
Although, some people may take all of his words to be truths, which I assume some do. It's silly to do so, however. I personally don't, because I highly value my individuality; I won't throw that away to follow the ideas of Jordan Peterson. I take in what is sensible and discard what I feel is less applicable.
I am not sure what you mean by untouchable. Correct me if I'm wrong, but do you mean that he and his ideas can be referenced, but there is not much that one can do to confront & criticize him and his ideas?
*"Philosophy as a whole suffers from this notion."*
- What does it suffer from?
You can live your life through how someone else has written their own, because the wise men have lived through what we're gonna live through. It is unwise to reject what they've come to make sense about the world. It is no different than me learning from you or you learning from me. I can give you things to ponder upon. You can reject them all you want, but the ideas are there. They exist, whether you choose to look at them or not.
I totally agree with him. I work 60 hours a week or more and I have friends who work less and make less but live their lives to the fullest. So what's more important? Hard work or living life? They say hard work pays off, but that's in the long run. Who wants to go jet skiing at 65 or 70 when you can do it at a young age?
depends on each one priorities is his life
Who said 65 or 70 is a time to go jet skiing?.. but take vacations wherever you want and bless your family with your wealth is a good life at that age. Those who don’t set themselves up for that type of success and turn out will struggle at the ages of 65 or 70
Great respect for this rare man. I wish I had a teacher like him.
“I’m available 24/7 to help solve issues. Call me at 3 AM on a Sunday morning, I don’t care”
- Elon Musk
Legit quote?
@@SizemicKick177 It is legit but that's what they all say. Actually call him at 3 AM on a Sunday morning and we'll see what kind of "help" you'll get lmao
@@sebastianelytron8450 Maybe he's not talking to everyone? Maybe is explicit in the quote a obvious "if you are important and the issue is interesting".
I wouldn't doubt it. Elon Musk is one of those hyper focused men
My most inspirational person in life!
I wonder if he's happy
I was thinking about the same thing.lol
He is, you can see it near his eyes, the wrinkles. No one with that amount of passion is unhappy.
I may be all wrong as i just watched this vid, idk him..
I follow other mentors.
hes super wealthy, he has tenure, and he continues to work super hard and to do it publicly.
Yash Jerkoo don’t get High on your own supply
A fox that chases two rabbits catches neither one of them.
@Ligeia D.Aurevilly do you realise that you said ' one at a time ' in your comment which is exactly what the guy said in his comment. 👀
Multipotentiality. If the fox is smart enough it can catch both
@@dalirkosimov4623 The reason zebras have stripes is so a predator cannot focus on them in a herd.
Last thing American government wants is a class ran by teachers who express constant wisdom.
Ryan Ardakan dude he’s Canadian
@@ianbellman5741 I don't know how widespread this knowledge is, but Canada is actually quite close to America.
Wrong. It's just that teachers like Jordan are exceptional
@@Me-by8qi wow :")
Ian Bellman well ye but he teaches at harvard
Life is a series of trade offs.
Marc Rankin life summed up in little words bravo
@Marc Rankin I like to call it compromise instead.
It’s why one should strive for balance
What a fabulous way to put it mate....
i want to master 2 careers
1. becoming an exceptional artist
2. world class ass eater
My friend ass eating is itself an art
Well just focus in ass eating and get 150% of it
DimensionZombie lmfao you again
Well you have to eat ass at 150%, 80% ass eating won't cut it
S A M E M Y D U D E
now I want a smoothie
Barbora Barusová I’ve got a protein smoothie
Personally, I found a lot of happiness in picking up some new hobbies and not obsessing about how they define me as a person, but putting in work and seeing myself get better at them. Sometimes cool things that happen in life are unexpected and not always part of some Tony Robins life mapping checklist.
It's not the only way! Indeed those who live a balanced full life can excel at their career in an exceptional way...as a whole person realises the interconnectedness of different areas of life
Mr. Pete is outstanding. Thank you for your videos professor.
My wife at 28 just quit her job of 10 years to obtain this wholeness. She couldn’t stand retail anymore, even though it paid quite well. This video definitely hits home as I’m still working 7 days a week at my job trying to be the best.
Sure, but married women have that option, married men do not. I would argue that you’re working 7 days a week gives your wife that flexibility. Quite frankly, it is unfair.
You aren't ever going to be the best at anything with a job. You will be the best at filling your boss's pockets and getting kicked in the ass for your hard work. No, entrepreneurs and scientists are people who reap the rewards of hard work. Working some petty job until your hands become nubs will just get you nub hands with the same ole' paycheck.
10 years in retail? I feel as though I'd have to have been committed to an asylum by now if I put up with that! But, 7 days a week... if you're doing this solely for success, then I can't help but feel there's a more efficient approach. Good luck, but don't burn yourself out.
If the wife is at home focusing on raising the children I don't think you can call that leeching. You're too quick to judge the OP as a beta male with a wife like that.
Wow, you really are judgmental. You know I've read that people who like to call others degrading labels have insecurity issues themselves just like bullies. You just call other guys male beta cucks just like that based on their online username (which by the way does not always reflect what kind of person is behind the username)?
Comments here are funny for two reasons.
1. Dr. Peterson has been teaching and counseling for longer than most of the people here have been alive.
2. The critics totally missed the mark with his lecture. The critics are talking about how working 80 work weeks can lead to happiness while Dr. Peterson made no mention of whether or not it that creates happiness.
He's obviously biased towards living a balanced life, but he's simply posing the question for you to ask yourself what you would find more fulfilling. If you noticed in his talks, Dr. Peterson rarely talks about "happiness".
What's comical is that he's wise enough to see the value in a balanced life & recommend it to others but he's that 1% hyperconscientious type that works 80-100 hours/week.
I'd say the trick is finding the work that is right for you, this sort of stuff will bother you if you are doing something you don't believe in or enjoy doing. I myself found something that I love and it gives me a kind of energy I've never had, it's like the world has absolutely nothing it can do to you that can stop you. It's ridiculous, it builds you and there's so little that phases you or makes you scared, I use to be afraid of women, people, rejection and I was in doubt about a lot of things but now not so much. Started off with post traumatic stress disorder, a psychotic mother and growing up in a state school full of drug dealers and abusive teachers, but since I found my career I've woken up every day to be glad I am exactly who I am. I'm a better person every day, smarter, more charismatic than before and always one step closer to the next thing.
All my joy comes from my work, which was surprising to me because when I was growing up I was doing jobs I hated, studying for stuff that made me want to brain myself on the way to university. It's easy to think that all work is terrible and that all jobs are pointless, but if you find that thing you are good at, the thing you were meant to do - that contributes even in the tiniest way to our species, it's honestly fucking amazing. Crack cocaine amazing, except instead of withdrawal symptoms you're just a better person.
Jordan is right about a lot of things, but I don't think he's right about your work making you depressed. I was depressed before my job and now I have reason in my life, I have friends I can depend on and a future that can't really get darker - sure I hit brick walls but they don't bring me down, because I know I'll deal with it and then get back to my work. I'm even excited about one day setting down my tools as an old man, because it will mean that artists are moving forward and becoming better generation to generation, evolving and learning so that my knowledge would simply become common and not special at all.
If you're wondering what it is you're meant for, just look at your childhood, your hobbies - the way you think and view the world, it might not seem special until you really think about it. As with knowledge, the difference between knowing and not knowing is checking, so check.
This is one of my favorite lectures from Jordan Peterson, so much info in so little time, amazing.
I think the problem I have with this - and it's the first time in months i'm actually able to form a counter point to JP - is that the top of the dominance hierarchy isn't the one and only thing which defines people's goals. How many times have you heard high level, professional athletes talk about the biggest competition being themselves? Or what of the late bloomers in many fields, who also become successful? They don't reference competition either. The dominance hierarchy is part of that picture, yes, but it doesn't define it. In a world as global as ours, there's so many people and places that there almost is no global dominance hierarchy peak worth aiming at, only local ones. But what are the local ones worth if they're subject to radical change? With the amount of freedom we have to pursue our own goals and dreams, it makes far more sense to compete against yourself, and throw down with the local dominance hierarchy, than to make that local competition the be all and end all.
I could care less if you work 70 hours a week and are smarter than me in that particular field. You'll mean next to nothing in other dominance hierarchies where this one dimensional take is sure to lead you to, and you'll be eaten there because the one dimensional part to your personality will be your downfall.
I understand that JP is distilling these concepts down to their essential parts, so it makes sense that when I broaden the scope just a tiny bit it changes the picture. That said, your own personal psychology is key here. If you're not competing against yourself and improving based on that, your victories against the dominance hierarchy are hollow. You won't actually be better.
FullCircleStories Preach it. Thanks for this.
But what you aren't highlighting here is even when you are competing against yourself you still are competing with everyone else who is doing the same. That's his point. There are X# of available spots and X+N# of people for the spot. Those who out compete win the spot. If it wasn't to show dominance then what is it for? I actually think your point on athletes is interesting though. If athletes do not strive for dominance and instead just better themselves and focus on self progression alone you will see a decay in talent. Sports are less and less about dominance now than they were and more about show. It's making for bad tv and fans are getting tired of it.
Cameraman i agree.
I agree. The only way to stop constant internal comparison and competing and trying to find your identity in the gestalt dynamic of you and the people around you is to know the uniqueness of where you want to go. For example, I am studying to be an Architect but I know the styles I want to specialize in, the specific places I want to work in, and the spaces I dream of building which honestly, I probably do not share with 99% of other archi majors. If some architect successful in a certain company with a certain project and earning so much, I really could care less - we all have places we want to go and as long as we see the uniqueness in our destination there's no competition.
I think the problem is that we waste too much time on things that don't help us achieve either. We can be successful and have a happy life but we need to get rid of distractions in our life.
I agree with this 100%, you have 16 hours of awake time per day…. If you want to be exceptional that’s 10 hours of work per day (70 hrs/week)… 2 hours for driving and eating and getting ready…. And you have 4 more hours for hobbies and friends so yes you can have a balanced life
yes.
I find a soft spot in the dirt and I never stop digging.
Thats the attitude
I sacrificed a lot to be exceptional and do amazing work, now looking back through remiss. I recommend to bailout and spend time with you loved ones.
This man speaks so logical it scares me
It's just common sense, not revolutionary.
Nadja K Common sense is revolutionary.
Boo.
“I want one thing in my life to be 150%, or five things in my life to be 80%.”
This is why Peterson isn't a mathematician.
Billy Bob Thornton I think he meant something like 100% is average
@@snitttyyy I was trying to be funny, but it didn't work (as per usual).
@@billybobthornton8122 oh, so you mean I just got wooshed... my bad
@@snitttyyy lol :-)
I will not chose between my passions. None of them can be sacrificed. Instead I will eliminate everything in my life that wastes time, effort, and money, and focus solely on the things that matter to me. Maybe I can't get to 150%, but I'll be damned if I sacrifice something I care about.
same here brother, same here..
"Men seek perfection while Women seek wholeness"
I'm 35, I've got two kids, one boy and one girl. I'm a good gamer, good skateboarder, good mechanic, good racer, good homeowner. I've got the friends, I've got the family, I've got the five things at 80% that Jordan is talking about. And because of that, yes, yes I do... I feel happy.
This is my dad and I in a nutshell. He is the unidimensional expectional and I've always hedged my bet against competing in one thing lest it collapses. I feel unexpectional but really really happy but I often wonder what could have been.
Jordan peterson brain to be preserved for his wealthy knowledge... he is bringing some new dimension for hopeless people... I have hatsoff respect...love from india
4:39 THANK YOU for revising your statement. You were originally gonna say people who don't have kids are unhappy. I'm glad you realize that WANTING them and not having them is what makes people unhappy.
TheEgg185 I think he corrected himself because he realized there are clinically depressed people and others who are more unhappy than them, so they are the most unhappy
Thats actually not why he revised that statement. He was going to say "people who dont have kinds but want them" regardless. What he changed was the part before that. "The most unhappy".
Do the work you love, feed the passion and the work will be part of life. Thus, you will find that life and work meet at a point. And then you'll have interesting stories to tell; a life worth reading about.
Passion is BS stuff for the masses
Why is there an open seat in Jordan Peterson’s class. I’ll take it.
What did it cost?
Everything
I have had a good amount of success in business, but it made me a workaholic. I am 34 now and I have learned the most valuable commodity isn’t money... it is time. You can’t buy it back and you don’t know how much you have left. I am slowing my life down.
Did you study what you want?
There is nothing wrong with working hard and progressing in a career. You always need down time though or you will burn out. The hardest thing in life that I see everyone struggle with is finding the perfect balance for them -- what that means to you is different than what it means to someone else.
I am a 17 year old girl from Greece and strive to be exceptional at my career as a psychologist. This year I am studying to get enrolled into one of the five public universities here with a field in psychology. I can tell you it’s very hard, especially for a person on the Asperger’s syndrome. Psychology is a very popular option of the youth here, therefore I must do really well at the exams. The educational system is awful and no one seems to care enough to update it. I have to learn an excessive amount of knowledge which is not going to be useful to me in any way and has nothing to do with my object of interest. I could set lower goals for myself but I know I’m “destined” for his job. I’ve already developed some theories regarding the said field and I’m planning on using my future degree and knowledge to conduct a research. I know I’ve got a lot to offer this world. I’ve been through much suffering to make me resilient. I’m willing to make sacrifices in order to achieve my goal: Take my field of science one remarkable step further. This goal is my purpose here, the one I have defined for myself. And I am going to fulfill it. I want my life to have a meaning and the work I leave here with my passing to be a tool that will help future generations to better understand this world. I want to be remembered and admired. Mr. Peterson, you are a big inspiration to me.
Please always remember your Orthodox heritage, the truth, keep in contact with nuns, your spiritual father and the saints ☦️
@@seronymus thanks, but I believe in nietzsche
@@phaedra4570 Hallelujah.
I agree with him. A sort of high-middle class life where you got your shit outside of work sorted out seems like the ideal for me
I chose having a life over full-time bilingualism, but then I realized you CAN achieve both, you've just got to be focused on making small progress. I write two pages of Chinese characters each day (roughly 220 characters). I learn about 5 new words each day on average. This only takes me 45 minutes a day. After one year, I'll know about 1700 new words, after ten years, I'll know 17,000 words, and most Chinese characters. Basically, in just 10 years I'll be better at Chinese than most Chinese people. Worth it.
"A Jack of all trades is a master of none." -Pretty old saying
"A Jack of all Trades may be a Master of Integration, as such an individual knows enough from many learned trades and skills to be able to bring the individual's disciplines together in a practical manner."
Yeah, if you’re the greatest boxer of all time you can still get choked out by a mixed martial artist who couldn’t compete with you in a Queensbury rules match. A master losing his life to a jack of all trades there.
"Knowing a thing or two about everything gives life more colour "
After 15 years working for Fortune 100 companies, Jordan is spot-on. He is, however, missing a key component. While hard work and sole focus will take you far in the business world, your ability to advance is often the result of subjective perception. You can be the best at what you do for a given company, but if the timing isn’t just right or if someone in power doesn’t like you for some political reason, your progress can be seriously stunted despite your skills and efforts. Then, especially as you get older, you look at all that you’ve given up in your life in vain.
In my experience most women I've met are looking for the perfect life, and most men don't know what the heck to do.
andeace23 lol true
What is this perfect life
@andeace23: I had to think about your comment for a minute to clear up the apparent contradictions -- thanks. Two parts to it. First, Women are LOOKING for the perfect life . . . rather than WORKING to create it themselves. That's the difference you're maybe missing. Second, "most Men" don't count -- it's only the BEST of men that one considers as representative for this discussion . . .
"I would rather be second best at many things than the best at one thing." - Will Swift
Will smith and taylor swift?🤔
My biggest nightmare is that I am second in something I am putting lots of energy.
Im not sure about those words you quoted
Watching this while playing RuneScape speaks volumes.
One of my favorites..... a truth I found out as a freshman and a choice I made.... have a life.
I really like the comprehensive view Jordan has on Life. Like really. There are so many areas of my life I haven't even considered, considering I'm recovering from post traumatic stress.
Science is a bad example because people aren't competing to be the best scientist, it's a team effort to expand our understanding of the world. It's not the kind of thing where you selfishly pursue greatness to be better than other people
It's not true. All major Inventions were driven by a single person and their vision.
@@Scuz24 Quite the sweeping statement you've made there. Even if it were 100% true, it wouldn't in any way detract from my point however. Someone can have a vision and pursue it but they don't have to be motivated by competition like Peterson suggests. Someone else putting in lots of time and energy doesn't mean you're going to be "left in the dust" or anything like that in terms of scientific research. That just doesn't make sense. I might also add that most great inventors were not motivated by getting ahead in the industry or thinking about how to get rich. Most likely they just had a lot of free time, a brilliant mind, and a drive to put it to good use (and a great education of course)
This is how the scientific activity should be according to theoretical methodology, not how it is. Scientists compete today more than ever before due to the "publish or perish".
@insiderunner I suggest reading "the perfect theory" to learn more about the surprisingly competitive history of scientific research. yes there's lots of teamwork but with the way you talk about it, I think you'd be surprised at how much more often there have been instances, even recently, where it's a clear race to be the best or first
@@gabrielmaisonet7485 you make a fair point, and I don't doubt you. I am being idealistic about it to a degree. However I think the fact that it's "surprising" as you put it still points to the notion that it's not the best example of an industry to demonstrate the point that JP is trying to make.
Low key feel like this is validation for my interests in other things aside from stellar grades
I listen to a bit number of Jordan Peterson , and this here resonate with me so much. I'm currently at that path in life where I have to chose between putting 100% into my career and ahead and be somebody while sacrificing having a life meaning more time for work and less time for social life OR spreading out my time between social life and career and not improve as much as I can as Peterson said in this video. I used to be introverted and was fine with no having a social life but I knew a part of me always FEAR that when I'm in my old age I realized that my social life barely exist, and I don't even have kids yet even though I build a great career for myself. I would love to have a successful career and have a social life, I don't need to have thousands of friends or always invited to parties but it's be nice to have an adequate number of those things too.
It is possible. 16 hours a day. 10 for work (70hrs/week), 2 for driving and getting ready and eating, 4 for hobbies and friends and socializing. Balanced and can still be exceptional
If I had this professor it would have been like never actually going to class. I could listen to his advice and information all day.
If you want to be at the top....you must work hard at entrepreneurship. Working hard and long at a 'job/career' (some one elses company/dream) will eventually get you ill.
Damm. I didn’t even notice him taking a seat.
I realized now that peterson doesn't talk "advices" he speaks laws.
This is something I realized after chasing a dream for years I was good at what I did but literally got sick of spending all my time and energy in it and when I wasn’t doing my thing I was thinking about it. In other words I had no life but the career I created I came to the conclusion I had no balance and their so many other cool and interesting things about life that if I dedicate all my time to one activity I’m missing out on so much more life has to offer. So know I live with a mediocre approach I’d rather be good or decent at 6 or 7 things and become more well rounded then be the top dog at one field cause to be the best usually means you become a obsessive monster blocking out everything else to achieve like if your the best boxer in the world like cool if you the best but if you look back at that athletes life all he did was box 90 percent of the time for 20 years.
Jordan’s wrong, it’s easy to work 80 hours and have fun, it’s called cocaine
Bobthedj Lol hehe
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it´s imposible, so many hours, really we can work 35/40
@@Blend1991 you'll cowards don't even smoke crack
Matthew Frazier, I think it’s not wise to put simple math over schedule because you really can’t sustain it regularly. Productivity is not something measured solely in numbers of hours spent on some task. Spending little time on your relationships with other people as if you’re a robot with limited use time also can potentially lead to egocentric lifestyle. But indeed it has to deal more with oneself’s life values
How about finding yourself first before one get's lost in dreams. I believe everyone has a natural god given talent. Some need to learn where some are born intuitively knowing already. That way, once you figure out that concept which is your root of all creation, you can then make a life around it. You don't necessarily need to have no life, just for a little while. Everything with balance.
I do what makes the most sense right now.
Tomorrow, I'll do what makes the most sense then.
After that, I just proclaim "Thy will be done".
This strategy keeps me fairly stable emotionally.
Success and accomplishment are achievable within the frameworks of a well balanced life and an overall healthy well-being.
Starting to feel like I'm on the route to this. I like work. Im 20 and I don't like much of anything else.
And then there's a third way, to have so much possibilities, that you overwhelmed by it, do nothing instead and neither be successful or really happy
I’m a fifth year, female pre-medical student (bio major chem minor). I’ve been thinking about Dr. Peterson’s advice for women in high demanding jobs. I’m starting to consider switching from pre-med to pre-dental. I always thought that I’d be the best doctor there is, I knew I would smash my interview and personal statement because I’m in it for the right reason, but I think Dr. JP has a very good point and I’m not shy about wanting to have a ‘multi-demential’ life where I get to have a family and be a good partner; even if that means sacrificing a childhood dream. Going to shadow a dentist for the first time next week. Wish me luck xoxo
Shaikul ! Thank you! I started shadowing my own dentist. I’m still unsure if dentistry will be fun to do everyday but it’ll take time for me to figure it out. What year in school are you? + lmk if you need help with anything:)
Shaikul ! Good luck!! I don’t know a lot about pre-law, but you’re definitely welcome to ask me any pre-med or pre-dental questions. I officially decided to switch out to dentistry:)
This is one of my favorite Jordan Peterson lectures.
I know a very nice guy named "Steve" who graduated from high school in 1966 and immediately signed on with the school board to be a school maintenance guy. Steve isn't at all dumb, but I don't think he has the IQ to be a lawyer or a doctor, so he went for something steady that pays pretty well and lets you have a life. He retired at age 55 and is living in his 2.5 million dollar home on his handsome school board pension. They travel a lot now and just bought a Lexus...
I know that sounds (and probably is) pretty boring, but Steve got to live his entire life free of money problems and free to be with his wife and children and friends and to never have to take his work home with him or worry about anything. Considering how risky so many of the more "interesting" careers are, I think Steve probably made a good decision for himself. Trying to be the world's greatest flame-eater or sword swallower or something is going to be a great deal more risky than that and you'll probably just end up burning the shit out of your mouth and cutting yourself on a sword. "Follow your bliss" at your own (great) risk...
He set up his life such that he had plenty of time and resources to follow his bliss after his career was over. Very wise.
Chris Jones how could he afford a $2.5M home on his salary?
+Imran Hussain
Easy. Just buy an ordinary house on the west side of Vancouver in 1967, wait until the year 2017, and presto, you're living in a 2 million dollar home. No kidding!
And the government will never run out of $?
ChrisC no, he set up his life so his job wasn't his life so he could have a hobby and a wife etc.
The people that this video is about are working their lives away and one day they can retire and follow their dreams and live their lives then but they could die tomorrow or get cancer and die a year after retiring or lose a limb or any number of things. So why the hell would you wait? If painting was my passion, I'd rather be a homeless painter than a rich dentist, cause I'd be happy and the rest could melt away. Or I'd rather get to travel than get a bonus. Memento mori
I need to grieve for the loss of my fantasy of excellence
I checked out your channel. Looks like you're the kind of young woman that so many men really want to build a life with. Guys are really turned off by promiscuous women with kooky hairstyles, tattoos and piercings. Also get rid of your cellphone if you crack the screen. Guys see that as a red flag that your damaged goods. Good luck!
you must not want it badly enough
@@lesterdiamond6190 Wow, you are one fucked up individual.
That's a mood.
Indian man here, whose parents have been over bearing on me and pressurizing me to excel since childhood (which I have, but they never seem to be satisfied with my accomplishments). But the price I've paid was too damn high.Never had any close friends, never had good time with my cousins or even Grand Parents for that matter and all that left me bitter and cynical about life.
That blue door is so dope it gives off an "accidental Wes Anderson" vibe. Very satisfying colors.