When I’m bored on long commutes I bust out my best Saffron Olive voice and describe the traffic and nonsense happening around me. Usually always makes me grin
I can see casting intrude on the mind on your opponents end step and splitting the piles into 5 and 0 coming up when your opponent is low on life. A 5/5 flyer with fake haste is a pretty real threat.
@@isaabd1334 The key is playing it on a deck that already wants to keep mana open. *Cough couhg * wandering emperor, counters, and removal *Cough Cough*.... Weird, I had a coughing bit on written text. What a funny thing.
The one piece thing interested me so I watched a video of a guy discussing it in more detail. Apparently, the reason it started so late is because a large group was supposed to have 2 rounds of buys, and they just didnt get them. So the organizers had to figure out who all got buys and then re-pair the whole tournament.
100% with Richard on the topic of "dying to doomblade" is not a good argument anymore. Every threat at every point in the curve is a must kill in 2024, and your opponent is inevitably going to run out of removal spells. So they need to either deploy their own threats to stay alive, or they die to the threat that sticks.
White's getting a lot of strong cards this set. I've been trying to make Narset exile/tokens work for a while now and this lightning helix is very exciting. The biggest problems were reach and the painful mana base and this offsets both abd being able to recur it will be huge in increasing its consistency.
Crim talking about winning is a punishment reminds me of the South Park episode where the kids kept trying to lose the Little League playoffs to have an actual summer. They kept winning because their opponents managed to outlose them better than they could
Unyielding Gatekeeper both pitching to and flickering solitude is also good and left unmentioned. also feels like solitude is one of the most underplayed cards in modern.
Strict Proctor stopped all permanents ETBs so it stops the one ring ETB. Doorkeeper will probably replace it unless there is a land or enchantment ETB that I am forgetting about.
Although Amulet is the thing that triggers, it triggers when lands ETB, so Strict Proctor technically has more text there. Not sure if it's worth it in that matchup because it'll probably only buy one turn, but it's technically better than the thrull. In terms of enchantments, it's probably just Leyline Binding, although that is a good one.
'My opponent had the sickest turn, and I was like "thanks god, sweet release, I can finally leave" ' Hahahahahahah, poor Crim, that tournament experience sounds awful.
Azorius may be really good in standard. The elephant is easy creature removal at instant speed so you don't even have to worry about Cavern of Souls. And of course the mana leak Plus in a full on draw go control deck, with intrude and emperor you're already leaving mana up for everything Long Goodbye is sick though
Crim is thinking about the game at my speed here... I never want to say "no" to my opponents, because I want to give them the option to misplay. Light stax and taxation is way better than pure denial, because you're constantly presenting the opponent opportunities to throw the game. Counterspell doesn't let the opponent misplay. This exact concept is why Ward is actually stronger than Hexproof.
I know it isn't the point of this content, but archdruid's charm is goated in high power and low color green commander decks. Excited to use it in selvala
Question on how disguise works. I know it doesn't use the stack, but does the stack need to be empty in order to activate disguise? Or could you play unyielding gatekeeper in disguise, then if they target the creature, the ward goes on the stack, they pay the ward, and in response you pay the disguise in order to use its turning face up ability before it dies.
For the stack to be empty, it would worded activate only as a sorcery, or only during your turn or whatever. You can slip it face up as a special action at any time. So in response to your opponent paying the ward, free game!!
My real question is why Archdruids Charms Tutor Ability is not 2 Abilities. Search for a Land as one option or for a creature as the other option with an exile an artifact or enchantment seems still super strong.
I don't think Long Goodbye is that great in standard because the removal that only hits 3cmc or less needs to be 1 mana. Your 2 mana removal spell needs to be able to answer Sheoldred or a 5-6 drop otherwise it's really awkward. This is specifically a standard issue though. It's better in pioneer and modern.
I agree with Richard about the thrull. What deck actually wants this? Tempo? By the time it’s relevant against the Domain Ramp decks, aren’t you loosing anyway? Cool you stopped my Atraxa trigger but you played a 2-mana 1/2 flyer. I’ve got a 7-mana 7/7 flyer with a bunch of other keywords. Against the other decks what are you hating out? Graveyard Trespasser? Deep-Cavern Bat? Loran? Seems kinda unimpressive to me. How about control? Does control want a 1/2 flyer? Probably not. There are better cards to be running than this thrull, even from the sideboard it seems unimpressive. In cEDH, however, I could see it being meaningful. Some Stax builds already play Hushbringer and Strict Proctor to deal with Th’Oracle and other powerful ETB’s.
"Its a 1/2 so it doesnt die to bowmasters" my man Crim, Doorkeeper Thrulls ability says it doesnt die to bowmasters the stats are irrelevant to that point
Did he say most cards are hating on control?!??!?! In this standard meta?!?!? Sorry my opponent is still removing creatures from the last game I lost. I must not have heard him correctly. Lmao
Hot take: disguise should have cost 2 mana. A 2 mana 2/2 with upside in 2024 magic is a dime a dozen. I think it's going to be difficult to play 2 mana 2/2s for 3 even with the flip up effect.
I think the MKM cards are being overrated here. In a world where standard has cards that are timeless good, this set won't even make a ripple. All the 4 drops aren't as good as the only 4 that see play (sheoldred, wandering emperor, ertai, invasion of xendicar) Disguise is too slow in a format where everything needs to be 1 or 2 mana. Even the best counter spell "no more lies" is coming into a format with cavern of souls. I'm glad players are hyped about the set but worried for the disappointment in a few weeks.
Should they just not print black cards? What do you want them to do? Also, keep in mind they cancelled rotation so the broken cards feel extra egregious IMO.
@@starmanda88 maybe just stop giving it all of the power. Give other colors a chance, I don't play green but it would be nice to see more in standard. It is basically unplayable.
Try to avoid talking over each other so much. Some runs turn into a conversational congealed train wreck of non-coherent audio. Now days many podcasts are guilty of this, it's important to recognize as you continue to grow. All the best.
Richard has his place. He's the "Straight Man" to Seth's janky fantasies and Crim's exuberant postulations, while also representing the Magic Boomer mentality. He is my least favorite member of the three, but I like the foil he presents to the conversation, even if I don't find him relatable.
Anzrag automatically turns on all the Formidable cards from Dragons of Tarkir Unfortunately all the Formidable cards are not good and only Surrak (who also costs 4 mana) interacts with it in any meaningful way (Giving it haste)
When I’m bored on long commutes I bust out my best Saffron Olive voice and describe the traffic and nonsense happening around me. Usually always makes me grin
Wow, that pickup truck must be running some kind of new lane changing tech
PUURRAWWWW--bably better known as saffron oooooooolive
You got that tism?
Heeeelllo hello hellooo
I'm sure people looking at you in your car think you're singing along to music and not... narrating to yourself...
"my dog is digging through the traaaash" was the best sentence in this podcast 😂
Crim describing my worst nightmare in the first 2 minutes is wild.
I can see casting intrude on the mind on your opponents end step and splitting the piles into 5 and 0 coming up when your opponent is low on life. A 5/5 flyer with fake haste is a pretty real threat.
For 5 mana thought...
@@isaabd1334draw go is a deck style. Not every deck tries to play on your own turn the whole game.
@@isaabd1334 The key is playing it on a deck that already wants to keep mana open. *Cough couhg * wandering emperor, counters, and removal *Cough Cough*.... Weird, I had a coughing bit on written text. What a funny thing.
“It’s the most useless body you’ve ever seen”
> 1/2 Flyer for 2
STORM CROWWW
The one piece thing interested me so I watched a video of a guy discussing it in more detail. Apparently, the reason it started so late is because a large group was supposed to have 2 rounds of buys, and they just didnt get them. So the organizers had to figure out who all got buys and then re-pair the whole tournament.
I love how "power creep" is also reprinting a card from 15 years ago. 21:42
coming straight from aspiringspikes powerpoint to this is such an interesting move. Love this content and excited to see this set come to fruition.
100% with Richard on the topic of "dying to doomblade" is not a good argument anymore. Every threat at every point in the curve is a must kill in 2024, and your opponent is inevitably going to run out of removal spells. So they need to either deploy their own threats to stay alive, or they die to the threat that sticks.
A extra bonus of long goodbye, it also hits all creature lands (in creature form) in those counter decks as well.
I hope Crim knows that there is actually a card called Universal Solvent. It's an artifact from Kaladesh block. It's not good, but it exists.
Kills Emrakul, absolutely broken.
White's getting a lot of strong cards this set. I've been trying to make Narset exile/tokens work for a while now and this lightning helix is very exciting. The biggest problems were reach and the painful mana base and this offsets both abd being able to recur it will be huge in increasing its consistency.
I want to run Pick Your Poison in Commander just for the one game where you go last and all three of your opponents play the turn one soul ring.
You must take a pic for the achievement, i need to see this go viral
I love the art on No More Lies, it looks like he's powerwashing gunk away with his azorius magic
27:26 strict Proctor effects permanents and hush bringer effects creatures only
The Long Goodbye can kill Haughty! That is literally the best part
The thrull against any orcish bowmasters or one ring is just super good.
I'm pretty sure they play Strict Proctor over Hushbringer because 1/3 blocks Ragavan. It doesn't have to be more complicated than that sometimes haha.
instead of commander clash, i want to see goldfish crew doing a modern and/or pioneer and/or standard league of sorts.
I have an esper celestial toymaker deck that plays everything that says pile and people do not know how to choose piles
Crim talking about winning is a punishment reminds me of the South Park episode where the kids kept trying to lose the Little League playoffs to have an actual summer. They kept winning because their opponents managed to outlose them better than they could
I love that richard rates cards on a scale of tarmogoyf.
Unyielding Gatekeeper both pitching to and flickering solitude is also good and left unmentioned. also feels like solitude is one of the most underplayed cards in modern.
Added to my mtg playlist to possibly relisten after set comes out.
Decklists are definitely brewing.
Doorkeeper Thrull into Phyrexian Dreadnaught seems like a fun turn 2. Not standard legal though.
Strict Proctor stopped all permanents ETBs so it stops the one ring ETB. Doorkeeper will probably replace it unless there is a land or enchantment ETB that I am forgetting about.
How does Proctor work with Urzas Saga?
@@Dunhilinathe lore counters are not etb triggers. They go onto the saga as it etbs, not when it etbs.
Although Amulet is the thing that triggers, it triggers when lands ETB, so Strict Proctor technically has more text there. Not sure if it's worth it in that matchup because it'll probably only buy one turn, but it's technically better than the thrull.
In terms of enchantments, it's probably just Leyline Binding, although that is a good one.
[[Doorkeeper Thrull]] I'm super excited to build an against the odds style torpor orb deck with this card.
Crim is so dreamy
Agreed. I find him very cute.
I remember when masticore dominated formats :(
my first thought for Break out was Death Shadow
23:30 "lightning helix is pretty much cryptic command" -crim
Intrude on the Mind also being a 5/5 flash flyer could be big for any deck that can use their graveyard!
Esper control splashing the Bant Triome to run 2 Atraxa
'My opponent had the sickest turn, and I was like "thanks god, sweet release, I can finally leave" ' Hahahahahahah, poor Crim, that tournament experience sounds awful.
Doorkeeper thrull seems interesting with evoke cards from both players.
Unyielding gatekeeper also comboes with snapcaster.
Doorkeeper Thrull could probbaly see play in the Esper Raffine decks because flash/flying is great in the deck
Azorius may be really good in standard. The elephant is easy creature removal at instant speed so you don't even have to worry about Cavern of Souls. And of course the mana leak
Plus in a full on draw go control deck, with intrude and emperor you're already leaving mana up for everything
Long Goodbye is sick though
rare seth pronouncing Eladrami's Call better than the rest of the crew moment
My sleeper pick for the set is Push//Pull in Standard
I just love this podcast man
Fwiw Id definitely listen to the One Piece podcast if Crim if ever did one lol
Man, i wanna smoke Richard in some mvc2.
I am surprised you guys didn’t mention Leyline of the Guildpact in this segment?
It is certainly a meme, to be sure
richard at 29:30 coming at every deck ever with strong sideboard cards
I cant wait to get some Slimes Against Humanity!
One piece locals went smooth this weekend lol
long goodbye is great hoser for merfolk in modern
Crim is thinking about the game at my speed here... I never want to say "no" to my opponents, because I want to give them the option to misplay. Light stax and taxation is way better than pure denial, because you're constantly presenting the opponent opportunities to throw the game. Counterspell doesn't let the opponent misplay. This exact concept is why Ward is actually stronger than Hexproof.
I know it isn't the point of this content, but archdruid's charm is goated in high power and low color green commander decks. Excited to use it in selvala
Finally a rare thrull
Question on how disguise works. I know it doesn't use the stack, but does the stack need to be empty in order to activate disguise? Or could you play unyielding gatekeeper in disguise, then if they target the creature, the ward goes on the stack, they pay the ward, and in response you pay the disguise in order to use its turning face up ability before it dies.
For the stack to be empty, it would worded activate only as a sorcery, or only during your turn or whatever. You can slip it face up as a special action at any time. So in response to your opponent paying the ward, free game!!
Collected Individual :D
Talked a lot about modern and green decks and never mention Titan, one of the best decks since forever.
My real question is why Archdruids Charms Tutor Ability is not 2 Abilities. Search for a Land as one option or for a creature as the other option with an exile an artifact or enchantment seems still super strong.
Because I want that +1/+1 counter synergy tooooooooo
I don't think Long Goodbye is that great in standard because the removal that only hits 3cmc or less needs to be 1 mana. Your 2 mana removal spell needs to be able to answer Sheoldred or a 5-6 drop otherwise it's really awkward. This is specifically a standard issue though. It's better in pioneer and modern.
Good luck beating the 7/7 vigilance lifelink in your aggro deck lmao
boys! you forgot to put recomended videos at the end screen!
I agree with Richard about the thrull. What deck actually wants this? Tempo? By the time it’s relevant against the Domain Ramp decks, aren’t you loosing anyway? Cool you stopped my Atraxa trigger but you played a 2-mana 1/2 flyer. I’ve got a 7-mana 7/7 flyer with a bunch of other keywords. Against the other decks what are you hating out? Graveyard Trespasser? Deep-Cavern Bat? Loran? Seems kinda unimpressive to me.
How about control? Does control want a 1/2 flyer? Probably not. There are better cards to be running than this thrull, even from the sideboard it seems unimpressive.
In cEDH, however, I could see it being meaningful. Some Stax builds already play Hushbringer and Strict Proctor to deal with Th’Oracle and other powerful ETB’s.
archdruid charm goes in wilderness rec
Richard: if you like Unyielding Gatekeeper, you're going to love Touch the Spirit Realm. It's 90% of the card for 60% of the cost.
Episode number 469? Nice.
56:57 Urza’s Zaza 😶🌫️🤯👹
Hey Mr full tilt into standard will you be playing the standard event at Chicago
I feel like intrude on the mind isnt gonna get that much play. Reason?....gut feeling
The problem with no more lies, if it gets popular enough... cavern of sould will completely take over.
Cavern of Souls hasn't completely taken over already? haha
Nice.
"Its a 1/2 so it doesnt die to bowmasters" my man Crim, Doorkeeper Thrulls ability says it doesnt die to bowmasters the stats are irrelevant to that point
What I didn't know crim was a Sacramento Kings fan..anyone know if he's originally from Sac?
Did he say most cards are hating on control?!??!?! In this standard meta?!?!? Sorry my opponent is still removing creatures from the last game I lost. I must not have heard him correctly. Lmao
Doorkeeper kills hammertime in modern
For the Mr Al. Gorithem
i am pretty sure sheoldred does not die to doomblade xD
Yess battle rage and thud
Richard is the owner?? always thought it was seth
Nope. Seth is the their content manager.
NICE
Hot take: disguise should have cost 2 mana. A 2 mana 2/2 with upside in 2024 magic is a dime a dozen. I think it's going to be difficult to play 2 mana 2/2s for 3 even with the flip up effect.
Bro what is Crim drinking at the beginning x_x
Seth please send Crim some mugs
Sadly these cards aren't good enough to save modern from Ring and Bowmasters.
Doorkeeper Thrull doesn't stop the One Ring, it's a cast trigger
Edit: I was wrong. Reading the card etc.
It's an etb that only trigger IF it was cast. Thrull stops the trigger
@@TankP0wnz You are right, mb
Does anybody know if the clue cards are coming to Arena?
They aren’t
There are five Clue cards coming to Arena: Wrench, Candlestick, Lead Pipe, Knife, and Rope 😂.
I think the MKM cards are being overrated here. In a world where standard has cards that are timeless good, this set won't even make a ripple. All the 4 drops aren't as good as the only 4 that see play (sheoldred, wandering emperor, ertai, invasion of xendicar)
Disguise is too slow in a format where everything needs to be 1 or 2 mana.
Even the best counter spell "no more lies" is coming into a format with cavern of souls.
I'm glad players are hyped about the set but worried for the disappointment in a few weeks.
It's Bandai, they still can't do card games.
Why does black just keep getting more and more support in standard? It does not need anything more
Should they just not print black cards? What do you want them to do? Also, keep in mind they cancelled rotation so the broken cards feel extra egregious IMO.
@@starmanda88 maybe just stop giving it all of the power. Give other colors a chance, I don't play green but it would be nice to see more in standard. It is basically unplayable.
@@garettallen4963 green does need a lot of help. That’s been going on for a long time now.
Richard doesn't know what he's talking about, news at 11
Try to avoid talking over each other so much. Some runs turn into a conversational congealed train wreck of non-coherent audio. Now days many podcasts are guilty of this, it's important to recognize as you continue to grow. All the best.
Y u tlk about the same cards... how boring
Whenever you guys put in Seth I refuse to watch the video. His voice kills me
Probably best to find a new channel friend. Seth is their content manager so you’re never escaping him.
This podcast would be so much better without Richard
Richard has his place. He's the "Straight Man" to Seth's janky fantasies and Crim's exuberant postulations, while also representing the Magic Boomer mentality. He is my least favorite member of the three, but I like the foil he presents to the conversation, even if I don't find him relatable.
Ow
I'm gonna play Intrude on the mind in Mono Blue in Pioneer. I'm gonna cast this and then Gearhulk it the next turn.
Anzrag automatically turns on all the Formidable cards from Dragons of Tarkir
Unfortunately all the Formidable cards are not good and only Surrak (who also costs 4 mana) interacts with it in any meaningful way (Giving it haste)