Hey Pete. Just stumbled onto your channel. Nice stuff! I just got a 2021 GW non touring with 6 speed. Yeah like you, I prefer the manual still. Maybe down the road I’ll get a DCT model. Great channel and contents. Subbed!
Very good video! I ride a Harley now but years ago I had a Honda Goldwing Interstate. Rode it all over the USA and Canada. One particular day I spent 8 hours in a snow storm, I could tell there was 3 bikes following me, when I pulled into a motel about 1 hour later they pulled in. I was putting my bike to bed and realized it was 3 Hell's Angels. I thought this isn't going to go well: All 3 of them said " Damn I wish I'd been on your bike today, " No bike is as comfortable as a Goldwing 👍 Ride safe and enjoy your bike!
Yours was an honest and to-the-point review of the 2018 6-speed manual Goldwing Tour. It was pretty humorous, too, and I liked that. It's nice that Honda reduced the weight and size of the bike, but in doing so, I think they reduced the Goldwing to a sport tourer. I would buy the new DCT version of the Goldwing in a heartbeat if they would just restore the size and capacity of the prior generation bike. I have an '06, and it rides like a charm with me solo or fully loaded. However, I'm always in the market for new and improved technology (keyword "improved"). Thanks for the review, though.
You do a great job of evaluating the bike! Very forthright, honest and extremely credible. I have been looking for a guy who could review a motorcycle as well as you do. Well done. I'm happy to subscribe.
I’ve had both the manual and the DCT. To each his own of course. But for me after trying the DCT it makes riding so much more fun and relaxing. Especially in the city in stop and go you can’t beat it.
And the DCT is NOT an automatic transmission. It's a smart dual clutch system that the software can switch gears on for you. You can shift manually with the padals and I heard Honda is adding a heal/toe shifter. So you can still go manual if you want but the software will ALWAYS down shift if you are late to avoid stalls.
@@dionmoore879 Yes in a sense you are correct. I don't think of it the same as a cvt transmission though. It's much more like a manual transmission that is shifted by software.
I bought the 2019 DCT two days ago. Yesterday I put a couple hundred miles on it. The seat begins to get hard at about 175 miles for me. I also have a 2017 H.D. Road Glide Ultra. With the modifications I’ve done to the Harley over the last couple of years, including a Mustang seat, it’s a much more comfortable bike for long hauls. But - the Goldwing is far more fun to ride. I’m thinking that I’ll hold on to both bikes for at least the next six months. P.S. I washed the Honda today. What a pain in the ass!
You can never go wrong with a Mustang seat. I put them on every bike I owned since 1978. Did not need it on the 88 Wing. The 07 will get one. Hands down the BEST accessory item you can add to any bike is a GOOD custom seat.
Thanks for the update. My wife and I looked at the new bike too. But like you said not enough room in the back for her and not enough comfort either. I own a 78,88 and I bought a 2015 with 800 plus miles on it. The points you posted is why we decided to go with the 2015. Thanks for sharing and be safe. I know all about them hot days in Florida. Enjoy your new wing Regards.
Good review from an owner’s perspective. Thanks for taking the time. I don’t know of a motorcycle that is perfect in all categories. Just the one that inspires you to ride it and looks so good that it makes you turn back to look at it when walking away. Ride safe and ride often.
Nice review. I'm happy for you that you really like it. In the end thats all that matters. I had one for two days and a thousand miles and was thrilled to return it. Yes it has some nice features! I found it entirely less comfortable than my 07 and that one is less comfortable than the 1500 for me. I'm no giant. 5 9 200# and it feels too small. My biggest beef is I cannot do 1000 mile days like a breeze as I could with the 1500 & 07 models. The comfort is not there. Living in Wisconsin when I go on a trip it is 700 miles before I get to anywhere I want to be. Primarily mountains. So burying that first leg quickly and comfortably is not there. At 80-85 MPH the total shoulder wind pressure is exhausting. Great center torso coverage but the radical difference between body and shoulders destroys my back. Granted I have disability issues but coverage for the long haul is why I'm a devoted "Winger". I would never put my bride on it for a trip like she loves because again. The comfort isn't there. She sat on it and did 20 miles and said sorry. You'll have to go alone. I totally understand. My hope is Honda will hear enough of this complaint and build a real two up bike again with all the wonderful changes these have. My first impression was no doubt the lead designer on this model was a crotch rocket guy and sure enough the lead crotch rocket designer headed up this project. It lacks storage, wind protection and overall long haul comfort. Other than reliability, the reason I believe most people lay out the big bucks for a Gold Wing. Happy for you. Great job on the review. Many safe travels. God's Speed!
You are helpful I have a 2018 BMW GS Adventure Rallye edition.... But the new Goldwing is calling my name the 2020s will be out in January this video helped a lot thank you
The back rest I put on my gold wing blew my knee out. because of the backrest, I can’t swing a leg around over the seat to get on or off. I must hop on while putting my right leg on the seat and hop to the bike and hop off of the bike on my left leg.. I have never had trouble with my knees ever. But this one time, I was dismounting and bent my knee backwards as I was hopping off on my left leg. I have had back rests on my two Yamaha ventures, and on my BMW K 1200 LT, and it was the same story. You can’t roundhouse swing your leg over like you’re getting on a horse. another issue I have with backrests is, when I hit bumps the bike rocks front to back, that energy is transmitted into the middle of my back through the not very padded back rest.Now that I have passed 60 years old, those kidney punches add up. So needless to say, I Eliminated the back rest for the sake of my left knee and my spine... I never considered getting the gold wing because the Yamaha venture was so much easier to maintain compaired to gold wing‘s.With ventures,you can change the water pump, clutch, alternator, slave cylinder, while on the side of the road just using the tool kit. I rode Yamaha ventures for 16 years on my 1986 venture Royale, and two years on my 2004 road star venture. I thought I felt that deserved the best after 50+ years in the saddle, so I bought myself a BMW K 1200 LT. What a mistake, what an expensive mistake, what top-heavy ill handling no-feel brakes machine that is. I never dropped any of my ventures, I dropped that BMW two times in parking lots because of that anti-dive front end ,When you break with a conventional fork motorcycle which is the rest of them other than BMWs lately, that kinetic energy is absorbed by the fork springs, and the fork oil controls the spring. On the BMW when you brake at low speeds, that energy has nowhere to go but making the bike feel heavy,And if you’re in a parking lot turning the handlebars and you tap those antilock no feel electric brakes, they grab and That top heavy weight becomes a handful. I’ve complained to other BMW K 1200 LT owners, and several of them have laughed and said “get used to dropping it, every LT owner does”...No wonder no other motorcycle manufacturer has copied the BMW front end design, and it’s also no wonder that BMW has dropped the K 1200 LT. Another major complaint with BMW is the cost of parts and maintenance. I priced brake fluid change because it is partially electric controlled w/ pumps Controlled by the computer, in 2011 prices, the service department at my local BMW dealer said it’s a three month wait, and the brake fluid change is $750 plus shop materials plus disposal fee plus tax. as with everything over the past decades, I did it myself. $5 for brake fluid That was after I bought the special reservoir that attaches to the master cylinder so you won’t run dry and suck air, and a special tool to fit the bleeder then only fits BMWs..The big danger warning on the Internet was, if you suck air into the system you’ll have no brakes front or rear till you take the machine on a trailer to the dealer to reset the computer.There were a few other things about that BMW I’m not gonna complain about here. But I’m never going to buy another BMW. I took my first gold wing ride in October 2019. I saw this used GL 1800 with only 13,000 miles on it advertised locally on craigslist. So I hopped on my Pacific coast and went to take a look. during the whole test ride, I was filled with regret for not having tried a gold wing decades ago. I can’t believe the smoothness & the power. I don’t care about CD players and radios. I’ve never turned on the radio on my BMW or either of my ventures. I don’t share my rides with commercials.. as for the power. it has right now torque like my Moto Guzzi norge, probably more torque on paper.I just wish the wing was as a light and nimble and had the brakes and suspension my Guzzi has.. my Norge is a pretty good all-around Turing machine. Heated grips, electric windshield, ABS brakes they can be turned off so you will actually have brakes on wet grass and gravel..but the semi sporty riding position limits my stints to 2 hrs between breaks.. actually the most perfect motorcycle I ever owned, and I’ve had more than 50, is my Pacific coast. They are perfect. I have done 700 miles with just 10 minute breaks on that machine in one day on all backroads..(Pittsburgh 51/19 south to route 50 in West Virginia, to Davis West Virginia to watch the Blackwater 100, then the long way home up 120, to 31 ,219 to 422w to 68s.. Beautiful long ride on a hot day. A group of seven of mostly co- workers tagged along for what i told them,”a little ride”The unprepared ones on Harleys that didn’t even bring jackets, gloves, water, never rode with me again.They got so cold after sunset, that they bought garbage plastic bags and put them on to stop the wind. they were lucky it didn’t rain because there was not a rain suit among them.. so it is true, hogs and rice burners don’t mix.Maybe that’s why I never even considered test riding a hog.. sorry I got off topic, same thing happens to me when I go out for a ride, I end up on side roads that I don’t know where they go.I ride the way Marlon Brando described to the girl in the bar in the movie the wild one. When she asked where he and his friends go when they go out on their motorcycles. Johnny’s reply was “we just go “
I was in the Honda shop Saturday they still have some 19 bikes they’ve marked them down a lot I am considering buying one of them They have them go in touring bike mart 19,000 they said they would come down more white do you think
Dave , I bought a leftover 2018 out of the crate for $ 18,400 . But charged me about $ 600.00 for freight . This was April of 2020. 6 speed manual. I believe the MSRP was $ 26,700.00 . So if you don't mind a new ,old bike , it could save you money .
I've heard with the mirrors up the front brake lever will make contact with the mirror and this can put you down fast, especially in reverse. It's always something! Appreciate this review, saw one for $16,000 the other day. Getting closer to being an option if I ever give up on my shake, rattle rides.
Im hesitating between this and a 1250gsa. I need to demo both. Even the honda dealer said the newer goldwing didnt have the comfort of the old one in terms of suspensions. It does look much better and that engine looks like much more fun than the gs…
Nice job on the video. 👍 I recently test drove a new 2018 DCT on a windy day. Seems my Honda dealer has a few leftovers from 2018. I was very impressed with the low speed handling. It was so good, it felt like I was riding in a convertible car and had to remind myself to put my feet down when stopped. I noticed at 40 MPH the bike was pushed around quite a bit by crosswinds. Leaving the dealer on my HD Road King and driving the same route I did not get pushed around at all. This is not a deal breaker. With 6 gallons of gas up top, the Road King is top heavy and that may explain why it was not affected as much by the wind or perhaps there is less surface area because the RK does not have a faring. I am planning a visit to the dealer to test ride the GW with the manual transmission, as I felt disconnected from this the riding experience and prefer being in control when making sharp turns from a stop, U-Turns and when maneuvering in parking lots. Also, I did notice how much more comfortable the stock seat is on my Harley. However, I have short legs (30" inseam) and my seating position is different than someone with longer legs. Ride Safe and Ride Often. 🤘
My thinking along the lines of space is the same. I went from a 1500 to the 1800 3 yrs ago and at that point I was on the fence for a used or new 1800. The seat and space made my decision for me. I bought a very low mileage 2012 Airbag model. We are really happy and it is really great for us. I so like the looks of the new model but after about 6 hrs on the road, looks does not matter to me at that point. Thanks for sharing with us.
My 1st bike was a 1979 Gold Wing automatic. At my drivers test the instructor walked around my bike a few times and said where do you shift the bike? When I told him it was an automatic he was not happy, said the first 15 min. of the test he would have me drive around the course and shift the bike. He put a big X in that area of his test sheet. I have a 2006 model now and do like the manual shifting. I did test drive the DCT model and do like the fact that you can shift manually with a button, just not with a clutch lever. Did not have that option on my 79 model. I am disappointed that Honda still has not thought of a way to use some of the engine heat to warm the rider during those cool weather months. Can't be that difficult to have a small shroud on back side of radiator that connects to louvers on front side of fairing to shoot some heat to the rider. Heated grips and seat are nice but not enough.
The custom seat is the same as the standard seat according to Wingsoft, has a RUclips video of both seats uncovered and the custom only has the higher backrest vs the standard Honda seat. Just FYI.
Great review... I love my 18 GW except for the stock seat. My seat is a brick! I use the airhawk frequently, but overall I am satisfied with the bike and would gladly buy another. Good topic, good vid!
Yes the OEM seat is uncomfortable..Honda went for styling and not comfort with the OEM seat...but RDL fixed that...with the RDL this newest wing is amazingly comfortable on 1k mile days.
I agree with your comments. I have about 7,000 miles in. To me the suspension is great. I know some find it too soft, but I am not an aggressive rider. I miss the manual clutch in twisties, but otherwise I like the DCT. I had Wingsoft work on the seat and my wife likes it much better now, as do I. John added padding to both of the seats and the passenger backrest. My wife likes it much better, though she doesn’t have a lot to compare it to. Honda says their studies showed that most Goldwing owners only went on short trips and therefore the smaller luggage is ok. I do see someone has bigger doors now for the sidebags, and given 3d printing I think someone will make a new top for the rear trunk that adds space. I would like to see more lighting on the back. I added the extra brake light, but I wish it served as a running light. I also think there is room on either side of the license plate for more lights.
@@dougstiers6154 Harley builds pure garbage not worth my money yeah they look pretty but that's all Harley is worth is just image with no reliability I wrather stick to Honda Kawasaki Suzuki Yamaha they build not only a ridable machine but reliable and that is all that matters to me I could care less about image
Well..let's compare..my Cessna 150 to the Cessna 170...oooppps..you guys are still using training wheels and whinning about your bicycles...I'm sorry..I quit comparing motorcycles when I grew up...40 yrs ago...
Nice video. I also hate the air wings. They are ugly. Test rode a 2019 yesterday and was surprised with my thoughts. Things I disliked, seat my worn out ‘08 is more comfortable. Trunk, my medium Neo II barely fits. I believe if I add a mat that will not be the case much less if I add an organizer. As for likes, too many to list here but the best surprise for me was that I joined the new suspension more then the DCT.
Thanks for the review, great job. Personally for me I took a 2018 for a test ride and did not like the ride. The seat was just plain crappy and very uncomfortable. The storage is a very big deal for me and my wife. Saying that my better have was not comfortable at all, seat was too hard for her. The sound of the 2018 was irritating to me. I personally think my 2010 looks better, this looks like a sport touring m/c. This is just my option for myself and my wife.
Storage for 2 up riding is a definite issue, no argument there. The seat does get softer but still isn’t the best. One thing I would have liked Honda to do is put the comfort seat on the tour model, would help differentiate between the models. If my wife was going to ride more I would have gone with the previous model as well.
I wish they had given me an ignition key instead of that bulky fob. But I agree with all your observations. 11,500 miles on my white 6 speed. Previous ‘04, ‘08, ‘12, ‘16. That’s just this century.
Hey Pete, good review, have std 6 speed didn't need or want the top trunk as my wife has her own bike so storage not an issue. This my 4th bike (owned 3 metric sport touring models) and for the first time have not needed the airhawk for multiple full day rides. Guess I got lucky with the factory seat. This by far is my favorite bike for the type of riding I prefer. The apple car play makes long distance travel much more enjoyable and do not feel beat up after a full day in the saddle due to the front end being so smooth. Added the factory drivers back rest I think that really helps as well. I'm with you on the wind deflection options. It is a motorcycle, if I want complete protection I'll take the car. I average 44 mpg in mixed riding and am happy with the overall range. Don't use the ride modes much but have used the rain mode when required and it helps with throttle control as I don't have traction control. Thanks again for the review I would absolutely buy again
Great review, Pete, and greetings from East LA (East Lehigh Acres)! Just picked up a new 2018 DCT and agree with many of your salient points. This is my first Wing since an ‘84 Aspencade because wife and I decided to do some modest touring while we still can. After a twenty year hiatus of two up riding and traveling together, I have much to learn. Be fun to meet up with you for coffee sometime...
Petes1800, sorry Pete, I had my dates mixed up. The Cars and a coffee was Saturday. Our club’s regular get together is today (Sunday) at 9 am at the corner of Vanderbilt Rd and 41 in Naples, 8847 Tamiami Trail N, Naples. Kind of short notice, brother.
I'll grant you The 2018 is a great looking bike. The front suspension I am sure is a big improvement. The less luggage space, and smaller seat are a deal breaker for me, and my wife. The trunk, bag space, and seat comfort is why we went to a Goldwing. We will keep our first Generation GL1800. It does everything we want in a touring bike.
I have a 95 aspencade and I've ridden the 2018. I love the automatic but the 95 is more comfortable. Would like to have the dct though and keep my 95...b.o.b.w's
@@guudbwoy1974 the new drive train into that 1500 frame would be PERFECT!! I sincerely hope Honda hears us! Overall I think the new design will ultimately be a loser. It will initially get a good following because it is new with some cool improvements. IMHO they cast aside their biggest market. The comfort and two up market.
I have the same bike as yours but it's a blue one. I bought the DCT model at first, and had to sell it four days later and then bought a manual one. Sounds crazy I know. Just like you, I keep most of the bike stocked except adding a 12 volt socket and an extended front fender. I like the bike a lot so far, not much complaint. BTW, I like your last line about being helpful or not. :D
@@stephensmith1034 I wouldn't say the DCT version is bad but it just didn't work for me. Simply couldn't get used to it. Unlike those bike with CVT, DCT keeps shifting gears according to the speed and you can hear it all the time! Low speed maneuvering is another issue. I know a lot of folks saying you will eventually get used to it through time, but if a clutch can handle all of the problem, why bother taking time to get used to it? Again, DCT is not bad at all, it just is a whole new different machine. My advice is, if you are new to heavy bike and not very comfortable shifting gears by yourself, then DCT is a good option. But if you have been riding for a long time and shifting gears is no brainer to you, you should probably stick with manual version. To me, when I set my hands on the manual Goldwing after losing some good money, I felt like home!
Well I think they look good in black, that's all I really have to say that is any good. Especially with those two black things holding up the windshield, it's fiting with a black bike.
I'm seriously considering making the big change from a BMW R1200GSA to a DCT Goldwing. It's tempting to just have both, but it bothers me to let one sit much and, obviously, one will.
It’s a big leap. I have a 2007 R1200R that I just can’t part with. While I doesn’t get out much it’s nice to have something sporty other than the Wing. I wouldn’t mind having one more in the stable.
Great video mate.Humble and honest.Wish i lived near you would love to take a trip out with you.But i,m in England so probably won't happen. Keep the rubber side down (: And please keep the videos coming, your a star.
@@Petesmotoadventure well if you come over look me up. I live in Rochdale. Check out all the amazing places to ride all around me. North Yorkshire, Peak District, Lake District. I'm well blessed. ☺️
Many (most) folks dismiss DCT as an “automatic.” It is not. After the DCT and paddle shifters were implemented, Honda spent a couple bucks per vehicle to add computer operation of the paddles if desired. If the hand clutch and toe shifter tech came after paddle shifters, they would not have sold one!
I agree 100% on the manual transmission. I dont need a computer telling me how ride. I've made it riding 35 years without a computer driven motorcycle.
A man and his bike. Glad you enjoy your bike. What is your gas mileage. I just bought a GW 2002 love it so far. Get about 40 ish miles per gal. Around town. Getting ready for a trip will see.? Girl friend really likes the back seat. Sorry about the wife. Enjoy the ride 😎🏍🇺🇸
Really tempted to upgrade from my ST1300 to a 2018 GL1800, my dealer has a demonstrator ready to go. My wife currently has a pinched nerve so she is reluctant to ride it to try it out. But we'll see in a month or so...
I am the stereotype buyer of a Goldwing. I am 60 and the Goldwing is my choice. I want late model or new, maybe 2016 or newer. I looked at a 2016 with 4,700 miles. Should I hold out for the 2018 with the new suspension and less buttons? Thoughts?
You stated you had 2007 that is my bike now. I am debating an Indian Roadmaster or the new Gold Wing. Apples, Oranges? Two things may entice me what about the walking forward feature and the reverse. You no longer have to put it in neutral correct? Have you used those two features? Also the DCT? This should be my last bike and I want to choose the right one.
Mike Gonzales wing and the road master are apples and oranges. The Roadmaster has the cool factor and larger storage. I own the 6 speed manual Wing and yes reverse comes in handy just like on the 2007. If I was going to my last bike I would stick with the Wing and get the DCT, if Honda changes a few things in the next year or 2 I will get a DCT.
I'm looking for a GW but I will find one that is a couple years old. I want it for touring and storage is too small. That is a shame, the GW is a touring bike but not set up for enough storage imo.
Yeah it is a lot smaller than the previous model. I found on my last trip I had enough room for a week long solo trip. If my wife was with me not a chance. Of course I had a trailer when we went on long trips with the 2007.
Depth brewed rollers. I ditched all my harleys, hubby got me into a CTX 1300, now I am wanting a gold wing or F6B, always had a tour pack not sure I can give that up...really in love with the white too.
So you would buy this bike again, but I am looking as a first time wing buyer. I love everything about the new goldwing... buuuuuutttt the dang price kills me haha... I found some old stock new 2018 tours for $20,000, so my question is, do you think the new 18's are worth that an extra $5000+ when compared to a comfort/audio 2014-2016 Gold Wing? My heart is wanting the 2018 but I am pretty sure the previous generation would be just as enjoyable to a first time wing owner... What do you think?
If you rode more in the winter would you still buy this bike? I'm in NC so we dont have bad winters but I find it more fun to ride in the cold than in 95 degree heat. Also I'm 6'4", 270 lbs. Should I get the comfort seat and be done with it?
Yes. On my last trip to the dragon mornings started in the upper 40’s-low 50’s. If I did live where it is cooler I would by the larger windscreen and lower air deflectors, to reduce the wind on my legs. The heated seat and grips work great. As for the seat I would go after market and have a custom built to give you more room. I’m 6’ with 34” inseam and fit great. 6’4” you might have some issues.
I test drove one and wasn't impressed with it. the one thing I disliked the most was the rear brake pedal location and the shifter location. its difficult to locate and with a big boot I don't know if you could brake or shift. I mean it wasn't a bad bike but for me it wasn't enough to spend the money on it.
How is the wind protection compared to the old version Goldwing? I hate cold wind so it's important to me. I love the new sporty look of the new GW but I'm afraid it comes with the price of more cold air blowing on me. I heard you say a sacrifice is more air...but is that something you can remedy ?? I don't tolerate cold wind very well 🙄.
JohnnyRebKy the old wing is far far better when it comes to weather protection. My last trip I got completely soaked something that didn’t happen on my 2007. I am going to invest in the larger touring windscreen as it is taller and wider then the stock. They heated grips and seat are great addition. Let me k ow if you have an other questions I’ll be happy to help.
@@Petesmotoadventure thank you sir! That helps tremendously. I know a taller windshield would help but it's the fairing itself that looked less protective when I sat on a 2020. I hate cold air that comes up from underneath a bike the most . The old Goldwing looks to have more fairing protection in that department. As much as I like the look of the new sleeker wings I may just have to go for a 2012 or so. At 36 I'm ready to be comfortable and warm as possible on a motorcycle lol. I just have low tolerance for cold like we have early in the morning . Other guys leave at 7am or so and I won't leave until noon because of it . Of course it's not all my fault...I have a thyroid problem that makes me sensative to cold. But I'm tired if missing out on good riding because of it 😣
Definitely helpful...so here we are in 2021, and I am considering making the jump to a GW from a 2019 H-D Heritage. I found a dealer in SLC, Utah that has a brand new 2018 GW 6 speed manual without a tour pack--more like the F6B, I think. I could get a pretty good price on it, I think...&17,500. Any advice/thoughts?
That sounds like a good price. The non tour pack is the Goldwing, with the tour pack it is the Goldwing Tour fancy right. There are some differences between the 2. The non tour doesn’t have the center stand, and the traction control, and electronic suspension adjustments. A few minor other things. And you can always add the tour pack later.
@@Petesmotoadventure thank you very much for replying. I am trying to trade in my Heritage, and boy are we off. 😬😬 it has manual clutch...heated grips, cruise, etc. any problems with buying a 2018 new in 2021, you think?
Personally I like the 6 speed manual over the DCT. Now if I did a lot of commuting around town DCT is the way to go. I’ve also ridden bikes with a quick shift, only use the clutch with start and stop. I found that’s the best of both worlds.
I have a 2013 F6B, test drove one of these, I too took out the DCT version, 100% agree would never by the DCT, one thing I was severely disappointed with was the sound on the radio of this new bike, my F6B, I can hear the radio on volume 20 at 80 miles an hour, I was doing 60 miles an hour with this bike, not sure if it's due to the shorter windshield or what, but I couldn't even hear the sound at full blast of the radio. Any comment on that?
John Keller I found the stereo on my 2007 was much louder then the new bike. Speaker position on the older model was more in the face, plus the faring did keep wind noise lower. I wear a FF helmet and around 80 mph I have the sound around 15-20 depending on were the windscreen is positioned. I’m sure the short shield and narrow front on the new wing make a difference to the sound.
@@Petesmotoadventure so then do you believe putting that taller windshield on that's wider also would cut down and allow you to hear the radio better at lower speeds?
I really like the front end and a few other things on the new wing. Have you compared the engine RPM with your friends 05 on the hwy? I ride a GL1800 and love the thing, I'm big 6'1" @ 280 and it fits me, I did have the seat modified to give me more room so I could sit back a little further.
Haven’t compared the RPM, my 07 ran about 3300 at around 75mph. New topic for a video. I’m 6’ 190# I find the new bike with about the same seat position. I have 34” inseam. See if your local dealer has a demo bike, always fun to ride something new.
@@Petesmotoadventure I can't afford one anymore, I'm retired and my new bike buying days are over. I'm afraid I would like it anyway... I understand that the new engine is not as smooth as the old one, though still smooth...
Great video! One question. I have a 2018 with 8000 miles and just getting ready to put a new set a tires on. Came with the Dunlop and I am thinking about going with Bridgestone Have you had to put new tires on your bike yet with 9200 miles?
Just replaced my Bridgstones at 10,400 with a new set.. I really enjoy them with no issues at all. I have not tried the Dunlop’s as yet due to my tire shops comments about the front cupping .
Why are people buying tires at 10k? This Summers trip was 12k on new tires and are still like new?? Checked by dealer upon return and was told not even close to replacement.
Thanks for this Pete. I have been eyeing up a goldwing off and on for years. I have owned mostly BMW 1200 rts with a 1300gt a couple of 1200LTs and currently a 1600GT thrown in. So, you're a 1200r owner, how do you find the goldwing feels around traffic and car parks with gravel etc?.
It feels good around traffic. Granted it is bigger so weaving around needs a bit more space. Plenty of power to get you around. Gravel is interesting simple because of the weight. Nice thing it has a low center of gravity.
You know why you wouldn't need to buy another one???? That's an easy answer because it will last forever as long as the general maintenance is kept up on it
I would have watched the entire video, but I could hardly understand what your saying. The volume level was too low I don't have a problem hearing most videos. And IMO, 9:30 is too long a video when not riding or working on the bike. But that's me. And if you're not gonna motovlog, talk while riding, I'm not interested. But I will be watching to see what you do.
Jeff Tilghman Sounds like you need to make videos Jeff, so we can all see what that perfect video looks like. The volume seemed just fine on my IPad. Ride safe and ride often.
I had the same problem Jeff. Had to really listen as the volume was so low. The content is great and honest. Maybe a remote mic on the shirt would be better.
Hi I have been contemplating buying a 2018 wing! But here in England they are around £23000 second hand that’s a big heap of money and an even bigger Loan! How do you Justify this commitment ? Yours Piere Middle England!
Hello Piere. It is a large financial decision. One reason is I tend to keep bikes a long time. I had my 2007 Goldwing for 12 years. Over time it makes sense. If I were to trade in bikes every few years I would buy used and never new. £23000 pounds to USD wow that’s a big number. Almost 30k.
I like them well enough. The look is great but you can’t put your heel on top because they will fold in. I thought about trying the gold strike pegs. The price of the Rivco is also a drawback.
I got the 18 nontour...and yeah, fuck the seat and 2 up--its a solo machine for sure. With u on control/manual shift. Rode the DCT...I don't want an 800lb scooter. Ridiculous with all the tech and gizmos in our life.
Didn’t have them on my old wing, so I never missed them. My feet don’t get cold, I live in FL. When I do cold weather riding I wear a heavier riding boot.
I have a 2002 and I will never buy a new one, it's got 40,000 original miles and I am 55 years old. I am so happy I didn't get sucked into buying a newer bike. With all the false economy in the world, a Honda Goldwing for that money shouldn't have that many problems... ruclips.net/video/8cJDS99P2Xg/видео.html I like your video. Here's a video to help you with your seat problem... ruclips.net/video/z9BuQZfaZ1c/видео.html I use to have a XS1100 Yamaha, so that is the background I come from.
I ride a 2012 C14. Got it new and modded it for traveling including Mccruise. Good bike. I am getting tired of the top heaviness. That said I’m late 60s and could use more comfort. Test rode a dct for a couple hours and was really surprised how much I liked it. This may be my next bike.
Hi Pete, I would appreciate your honest opinion. I have a 00 Valkyrie standard. Have had her for about 15 years now. I've added hard bags from a tourer that a trike conversion was selling, but otherwise she is factory. Am I going to like a wing? What year should I be looking at? Wife does not like riding, she tolerates one bike, will actively resist two. I kinda like the old girl for sentimental reasons and want to keep her. (yes that sentence is deliberately ambiguous) How hard should I fight to keep both bikes? Will a new wing impress me so much I forget about the Valk? My daughter loves riding and we often go out together. But will only be a few years and she will have her own licence and her own bike. In New Zealand new wings start at around $40k, market value of my old Valk is less than $10k and I really have no idea how much I would get for the wife.
I’m sure you would like the a Wing. Before my 2018 I owned a 2007. Now there are many differences between them the GL1800 is an amazing motorcycle. Getting rid of the Valk would be difficult. Yes the Newer version is technologically superior, but the old Valks have class and style. I’d be torn about getting rid of it. I have a 2007 BMW R1200R and for 2 years I say I’m going to sell it and just can’t let it go. My wife tolerates my 2 bikes for now. I know in the States Honda offers Demo rides for the Goldwing, not sure about NZ. Speaking of NZ, I was there last year for a couple of weeks, and you my friend live in amazing part of the world. One of my first thoughts was I wish I had a motorcycle here. I hope to get back there soon.
@@Petesmotoadventure one of the best things about riding in NZ, we drive on the correct side of the road, so the bike leans away from traffic when you put her on the side stand! 😜
Sir, with due respect for the vicissitudes of international exchange rates in these troubled times, I believe the current rate for one wife is a camel. However, I must caution you since attractive as that can seem, camels are predominately an off-road choice and can be difficult on motorways. Further, I feel you may find the seat height to be in excess of both Valkyrie and GL1800, and that getting both feet down at traffic lights might prove troublesome for riders with less than 6ft 4” inside leg measurement. In conclusion I must advise keeping your wife, if for no other reason, camels whilst a godsend for the keen lawn carer, cannot be trusted with daffodils. My work here is done, best regards.
I sold my 2010 Goldwing. I test rode the new Goldwing. I noticed the amount of wind noise on the new bike is louder. Do you notice that too? Any ideas on how to correct this?
Yes it does have more wind noise. The wind screen is lower and narrower than the previous model. I just raise the screen up and it decreases the noise dramatically. There are also larger screens available from Honda and third parties at this point.
I think what it is... On the previous gw model you had to manually lift the front screen. There was no gap between the screen and the front body( where front head light is) it was flush together with no air gap at the bottom of the windscreen. I took a demo ride on the new gw I noticed On the new gw when you raise the wind shield there is an air gap at the bottom of the shield.. where it meet with the body. So big that You can slide your fingers through the new gap. Highway winds get into that gap and it create a wind tunnel humming effect. That new noise makes it harder to hear the radio at highway riding. I think the solution would be to close that gap like the previous Goldwing. So no air goes through the bottom of the screen. Just Up and around. This should quiet the wind noise down on highway rides. Someone should come up with a rubber or plastic adapter to close that gap when the wind shield is in the up position.
@@jrmiamivids It's basic acoustic properties. I put the new one next to my 07 and the 18 had a much better sound and perceived volume sitting still side by side. The added wind noise of the 18 added to the rear speakers having to fight the wind dead on knocks the sound volume and quality down when moving. the faster you go the worse it gets. It is the same as if I took my expensive live music speakers out of a dance hall and had them face an 80 MPH wind. They would go from great to super suck. Those rear speakers are stuck in the wind. Relying on air movement for the creation of sound they are being crushed every mph you gain the less efficient the speaker can be.
Hey Pete. Just stumbled onto your channel. Nice stuff! I just got a 2021 GW non touring with 6 speed. Yeah like you, I prefer the manual still. Maybe down the road I’ll get a DCT model. Great channel and contents. Subbed!
Thank you so much. Enjoy that new Wing.
Very good video! I ride a Harley now but years ago I had a Honda Goldwing Interstate. Rode it all over the USA and Canada. One particular day I spent 8 hours in a snow storm, I could tell there was 3 bikes following me, when I pulled into a motel about 1 hour later they pulled in. I was putting my bike to bed and realized it was 3 Hell's Angels. I thought this isn't going to go well: All 3 of them said " Damn I wish I'd been on your bike today, " No bike is as comfortable as a Goldwing 👍 Ride safe and enjoy your bike!
Yours was an honest and to-the-point review of the 2018 6-speed manual Goldwing Tour. It was pretty humorous, too, and I liked that. It's nice that Honda reduced the weight and size of the bike, but in doing so, I think they reduced the Goldwing to a sport tourer. I would buy the new DCT version of the Goldwing in a heartbeat if they would just restore the size and capacity of the prior generation bike. I have an '06, and it rides like a charm with me solo or fully loaded. However, I'm always in the market for new and improved technology (keyword "improved"). Thanks for the review, though.
I hope Honda hears us. They are losing a large segment of their devoted buyers in exchange to add an initial group of trendies.
You do a great job of evaluating the bike! Very forthright, honest and extremely credible. I have been looking for a guy who could review a motorcycle as well as you do. Well done. I'm happy to subscribe.
I’ve had both the manual and the DCT. To each his own of course. But for me after trying the DCT it makes riding so much more fun and relaxing. Especially in the city in stop and go you can’t beat it.
I agree. It is much more fun!
And the DCT is NOT an automatic transmission. It's a smart dual clutch system that the software can switch gears on for you. You can shift manually with the padals and I heard Honda is adding a heal/toe shifter. So you can still go manual if you want but the software will ALWAYS down shift if you are late to avoid stalls.
@@batdude2196 don't understand what you are saying. A DCT is most definitely an automatic transmission .
@@dionmoore879 Yes in a sense you are correct. I don't think of it the same as a cvt transmission though. It's much more like a manual transmission that is shifted by software.
It is considered a "hybrid" transmission not fully automatic. Here: www.cjponyparts.com/resources/dct-vs-automatic-transmissions
Over 2700 miles my 18 DCT gets 49.5 AVG mpg. I have gotten over 50 many times here in Colorado.
Great video I have a 2018 with 10,000 miles and I love the new bike
I bought the 2019 DCT two days ago. Yesterday I put a couple hundred miles on it. The seat begins to get hard at about 175 miles for me. I also have a 2017 H.D. Road Glide Ultra. With the modifications I’ve done to the Harley over the last couple of years, including a Mustang seat, it’s a much more comfortable bike for long hauls. But - the Goldwing is far more fun to ride. I’m thinking that I’ll hold on to both bikes for at least the next six months.
P.S. I washed the Honda today. What a pain in the ass!
@Joseph Marton Thanks for the tip. You're right! I like em both. One's for long-hauls, and one's for commuting around town.
You can never go wrong with a Mustang seat. I put them on every bike I owned since 1978. Did not need it on the 88 Wing. The 07 will get one. Hands down the BEST accessory item you can add to any bike is a GOOD custom seat.
Thanks for the update. My wife and I looked at the new bike too. But like you said not enough room in the back for her and not enough comfort either. I own a 78,88 and I bought a 2015 with 800 plus miles on it. The points you posted is why we decided to go with the 2015. Thanks for sharing and be safe. I know all about them hot days in Florida. Enjoy your new wing
Regards.
Good review from an owner’s perspective. Thanks for taking the time. I don’t know of a motorcycle that is perfect in all categories. Just the one that inspires you to ride it and looks so good that it makes you turn back to look at it when walking away. Ride safe and ride often.
Nice review. I'm happy for you that you really like it. In the end thats all that matters. I had one for two days and a thousand miles and was thrilled to return it. Yes it has some nice features! I found it entirely less comfortable than my 07 and that one is less comfortable than the 1500 for me. I'm no giant. 5 9 200# and it feels too small. My biggest beef is I cannot do 1000 mile days like a breeze as I could with the 1500 & 07 models. The comfort is not there. Living in Wisconsin when I go on a trip it is 700 miles before I get to anywhere I want to be. Primarily mountains. So burying that first leg quickly and comfortably is not there. At 80-85 MPH the total shoulder wind pressure is exhausting. Great center torso coverage but the radical difference between body and shoulders destroys my back. Granted I have disability issues but coverage for the long haul is why I'm a devoted "Winger". I would never put my bride on it for a trip like she loves because again. The comfort isn't there. She sat on it and did 20 miles and said sorry. You'll have to go alone. I totally understand. My hope is Honda will hear enough of this complaint and build a real two up bike again with all the wonderful changes these have. My first impression was no doubt the lead designer on this model was a crotch rocket guy and sure enough the lead crotch rocket designer headed up this project. It lacks storage, wind protection and overall long haul comfort. Other than reliability, the reason I believe most people lay out the big bucks for a Gold Wing. Happy for you. Great job on the review. Many safe travels. God's Speed!
You are helpful
I have a 2018 BMW GS Adventure Rallye edition.... But the new Goldwing is calling my name
the 2020s will be out in January
this video helped a lot
thank you
Same here. I have a 2012 Adventure (bought new) and am seriously looking at making the change.
The back rest I put on my gold wing blew my knee out. because of the backrest, I can’t swing a leg around over the seat to get on or off. I must hop on while putting my right leg on the seat and hop to the bike and hop off of the bike on my left leg.. I have never had trouble with my knees ever. But this one time, I was dismounting and bent my knee backwards as I was hopping off on my left leg. I have had back rests on my two Yamaha ventures, and on my BMW K 1200 LT, and it was the same story. You can’t roundhouse swing your leg over like you’re getting on a horse.
another issue I have with backrests is, when I hit bumps the bike rocks front to back, that energy is transmitted into the middle of my back through the not very padded back rest.Now that I have passed 60 years old, those kidney punches add up. So needless to say, I Eliminated the back rest for the sake of my left knee and my spine...
I never considered getting the gold wing because the Yamaha venture was so much easier to maintain compaired to gold wing‘s.With ventures,you can change the water pump, clutch, alternator, slave cylinder, while on the side of the road just using the tool kit. I rode Yamaha ventures for 16 years on my 1986 venture Royale, and two years on my 2004 road star venture. I thought I felt that deserved the best after 50+ years in the saddle, so I bought myself a BMW K 1200 LT. What a mistake, what an expensive mistake, what top-heavy ill handling no-feel brakes machine that is. I never dropped any of my ventures, I dropped that BMW two times in parking lots because of that anti-dive front end ,When you break with a conventional fork motorcycle which is the rest of them other than BMWs lately, that kinetic energy is absorbed by the fork springs, and the fork oil controls the spring. On the BMW when you brake at low speeds, that energy has nowhere to go but making the bike feel heavy,And if you’re in a parking lot turning the handlebars and you tap those antilock no feel electric brakes, they grab and That top heavy weight becomes a handful. I’ve complained to other BMW K 1200 LT owners, and several of them have laughed and said “get used to dropping it, every LT owner does”...No wonder no other motorcycle manufacturer has copied the BMW front end design, and it’s also no wonder that BMW has dropped the K 1200 LT.
Another major complaint with BMW is the cost of parts and maintenance. I priced brake fluid change because it is partially electric controlled w/ pumps Controlled by the computer, in 2011 prices, the service department at my local BMW dealer said it’s a three month wait, and the brake fluid change is $750 plus shop materials plus disposal fee plus tax.
as with everything over the past decades, I did it myself. $5 for brake fluid That was after I bought the special reservoir that attaches to the master cylinder so you won’t run dry and suck air, and a special tool to fit the bleeder then only fits BMWs..The big danger warning on the Internet was, if you suck air into the system you’ll have no brakes front or rear till you take the machine on a trailer to the dealer to reset the computer.There were a few other things about that BMW I’m not gonna complain about here. But I’m never going to buy another BMW.
I took my first gold wing ride in October 2019. I saw this used GL 1800 with only 13,000 miles on it advertised locally on craigslist. So I hopped on my Pacific coast and went to take a look. during the whole test ride, I was filled with regret for not having tried a gold wing decades ago. I can’t believe the smoothness & the power. I don’t care about CD players and radios. I’ve never turned on the radio on my BMW or either of my ventures. I don’t share my rides with commercials.. as for the power. it has right now torque like my Moto Guzzi norge, probably more torque on paper.I just wish the wing was as a light and nimble and had the brakes and suspension my Guzzi has.. my Norge is a pretty good all-around Turing machine. Heated grips, electric windshield, ABS brakes they can be turned off so you will actually have brakes on wet grass and gravel..but the semi sporty riding position limits my stints to 2 hrs between breaks.. actually the most perfect motorcycle I ever owned, and I’ve had more than 50, is my Pacific coast. They are perfect. I have done 700 miles with just 10 minute breaks on that machine in one day on all backroads..(Pittsburgh 51/19 south to route 50 in West Virginia, to Davis West Virginia to watch the Blackwater 100, then the long way home up 120, to 31 ,219 to 422w to 68s.. Beautiful long ride on a hot day. A group of seven of mostly co- workers tagged along for what i told them,”a little ride”The unprepared ones on Harleys that didn’t even bring jackets, gloves, water, never rode with me again.They got so cold after sunset, that they bought garbage plastic bags and put them on to stop the wind. they were lucky it didn’t rain because there was not a rain suit among them.. so it is true, hogs and rice burners don’t mix.Maybe that’s why I never even considered test riding a hog..
sorry I got off topic, same thing happens to me when I go out for a ride, I end up on side roads that I don’t know where they go.I ride the way Marlon Brando described to the girl in the bar in the movie the wild one. When she asked where he and his friends go when they go out on their motorcycles. Johnny’s reply was “we just go “
Nice review! I’m on a ‘19 Wing and thoroughly in love.
I was in the Honda shop Saturday they still have some 19 bikes they’ve marked them down a lot I am considering buying one of them They have them go in touring bike mart 19,000 they said they would come down more white do you think
David Smith Definitely go for it!!!
Dave , I bought a leftover 2018 out of the crate for $ 18,400 . But charged me about $ 600.00 for freight . This was April of 2020. 6 speed manual.
I believe the MSRP was $ 26,700.00 .
So if you don't mind a new ,old bike , it could save you money .
I've heard with the mirrors up the front brake lever will make contact with the mirror and this can put you down fast, especially in reverse. It's always something! Appreciate this review, saw one for $16,000 the other day. Getting closer to being an option if I ever give up on my shake, rattle rides.
Im hesitating between this and a 1250gsa. I need to demo both. Even the honda dealer said the newer goldwing didnt have the comfort of the old one in terms of suspensions. It does look much better and that engine looks like much more fun than the gs…
Two different animals. I have a R1200R as well and the power plants differ widely.
Nice job on the video. 👍 I recently test drove a new 2018 DCT on a windy day. Seems my Honda dealer has a few leftovers from 2018. I was very impressed with the low speed handling. It was so good, it felt like I was riding in a convertible car and had to remind myself to put my feet down when stopped. I noticed at 40 MPH the bike was pushed around quite a bit by crosswinds. Leaving the dealer on my HD Road King and driving the same route I did not get pushed around at all. This is not a deal breaker. With 6 gallons of gas up top, the Road King is top heavy and that may explain why it was not affected as much by the wind or perhaps there is less surface area because the RK does not have a faring. I am planning a visit to the dealer to test ride the GW with the manual transmission, as I felt disconnected from this the riding experience and prefer being in control when making sharp turns from a stop, U-Turns and when maneuvering in parking lots. Also, I did notice how much more comfortable the stock seat is on my Harley. However, I have short legs (30" inseam) and my seating position is different than someone with longer legs. Ride Safe and Ride Often. 🤘
My thinking along the lines of space is the same. I went from a 1500 to the 1800 3 yrs ago and at that point I was on the fence for a used or new 1800. The seat and space made my decision for me. I bought a very low mileage 2012 Airbag model. We are really happy and it is really great for us. I so like the looks of the new model but after about 6 hrs on the road, looks does not matter to me at that point. Thanks for sharing with us.
My 1st bike was a 1979 Gold Wing automatic. At my drivers test the instructor walked around my bike a few times and said where do you shift the bike? When I told him it was an automatic he was not happy, said the first 15 min. of the test he would have me drive around the course and shift the bike. He put a big X in that area of his test sheet. I have a 2006 model now and do like the manual shifting. I did test drive the DCT model and do like the fact that you can shift manually with a button, just not with a clutch lever. Did not have that option on my 79 model. I am disappointed that Honda still has not thought of a way to use some of the engine heat to warm the rider during those cool weather months. Can't be that difficult to have a small shroud on back side of radiator that connects to louvers on front side of fairing to shoot some heat to the rider. Heated grips and seat are nice but not enough.
The GL1800 did have the comfort model that had vents for the feet. They did away with it for some reasons.
The custom seat is the same as the standard seat according to Wingsoft, has a RUclips video of both seats uncovered and the custom only has the higher backrest vs the standard Honda seat. Just FYI.
Excellent review and honest comments. Thanks
Great review...
I love my 18 GW except for the stock seat. My seat is a brick! I use the airhawk frequently, but overall I am satisfied with the bike and would gladly buy another.
Good topic, good vid!
I don't understand why you pay all that $$ for a beautiful bike and then they "stiff you" on the seat.
Yes the OEM seat is uncomfortable..Honda went for styling and not comfort with the OEM seat...but RDL fixed that...with the RDL this newest wing is amazingly comfortable on 1k mile days.
Great video! Good to know you don’t have many regrets on the bike I am trying to decide right now
Agree with John. Harley are indeed struggling to stay afloat.
I can’t wait to get a new goldwing. I love how quiet they are. I don’t wanna hear shit when I start it up for work in the morning.
I agree with your comments. I have about 7,000 miles in. To me the suspension is great. I know some find it too soft, but I am not an aggressive rider.
I miss the manual clutch in twisties, but otherwise I like the DCT.
I had Wingsoft work on the seat and my wife likes it much better now, as do I. John added padding to both of the seats and the passenger backrest. My wife likes it much better, though she doesn’t have a lot to compare it to.
Honda says their studies showed that most Goldwing owners only went on short trips and therefore the smaller luggage is ok. I do see someone has bigger doors now for the sidebags, and given 3d printing I think someone will make a new top for the rear trunk that adds space.
I would like to see more lighting on the back. I added the extra brake light, but I wish it served as a running light. I also think there is room on either side of the license plate for more lights.
I am actually surprised Honda has not put Harley Davidson out of buisness
HD makes a beautiful bike but I'm afraid I'll lose all my fillings from the vibration.
@@dougstiers6154 Harley builds pure garbage not worth my money yeah they look pretty but that's all Harley is worth is just image with no reliability I wrather stick to Honda Kawasaki Suzuki Yamaha they build not only a ridable machine but reliable and that is all that matters to me I could care less about image
Harley are a pain in the ass,, just two meny problemos, honda is the best
Well..let's compare..my Cessna 150 to the Cessna 170...oooppps..you guys are still using training wheels and whinning about your bicycles...I'm sorry..I quit comparing motorcycles when I grew up...40 yrs ago...
@@dr.phil-federalinspector6023 You should go to a 210 or 206 for much more comfort :)
Nice video. I also hate the air wings. They are ugly. Test rode a 2019 yesterday and was surprised with my thoughts. Things I disliked, seat my worn out ‘08 is more comfortable. Trunk, my medium Neo II barely fits. I believe if I add a mat that will not be the case much less if I add an organizer. As for likes, too many to list here but the best surprise for me was that I joined the new suspension more then the DCT.
Thanks for the review, great job. Personally for me I took a 2018 for a test ride and did not like the ride. The seat was just plain crappy and very uncomfortable. The storage is a very big deal for me and my wife. Saying that my better have was not comfortable at all, seat was too hard for her. The sound of the 2018 was irritating to me. I personally think my 2010 looks better, this looks like a sport touring m/c. This is just my option for myself and my wife.
Storage for 2 up riding is a definite issue, no argument there. The seat does get softer but still isn’t the best. One thing I would have liked Honda to do is put the comfort seat on the tour model, would help differentiate between the models. If my wife was going to ride more I would have gone with the previous model as well.
Petes1800 Yup , again thanks for the very candid review. Happy and safe riding
Just bought a ‘21 manual GW .. got the regular (no trunk) .. been a blast so far .. loved my Victory but never liked the v-twin .. the GW is a rocket
Excellent
I wish they had given me an ignition key instead of that bulky fob. But I agree with all your observations. 11,500 miles on my white 6 speed. Previous ‘04, ‘08, ‘12, ‘16. That’s just this century.
I’ll stick with my 2008 GW.. but I do like the looks of the dash in the 18 model
Hey Pete, good review, have std 6 speed didn't need or want the top trunk as my wife has her own bike so storage not an issue. This my 4th bike (owned 3 metric sport touring models) and for the first time have not needed the airhawk for multiple full day rides. Guess I got lucky with the factory seat. This by far is my favorite bike for the type of riding I prefer. The apple car play makes long distance travel much more enjoyable and do not feel beat up after a full day in the saddle due to the front end being so smooth. Added the factory drivers back rest I think that really helps as well. I'm with you on the wind deflection options. It is a motorcycle, if I want complete protection I'll take the car. I average 44 mpg in mixed riding and am happy with the overall range. Don't use the ride modes much but have used the rain mode when required and it helps with throttle control as I don't have traction control. Thanks again for the review I would absolutely buy again
Honda Human Resources should send you an employment application. You’d certainly be an asset to the company. Be well.
Great review, Pete, and greetings from East LA (East Lehigh Acres)! Just picked up a new 2018 DCT and agree with many of your salient points. This is my first Wing since an ‘84 Aspencade because wife and I decided to do some modest touring while we still can. After a twenty year hiatus of two up riding and traveling together, I have much to learn. Be fun to meet up with you for coffee sometime...
Would love to meet up. That’s what’s it’s about building community.
Petes1800, several of my riding chums are meeting at the Cars and Coffee in Naples this Sunday morning. Be great if you could join us.
Let me know where it is and I may be able to make it.
Petes1800, sorry Pete, I had my dates mixed up. The Cars and a coffee was Saturday. Our club’s regular get together is today (Sunday) at 9 am at the corner of Vanderbilt Rd and 41 in Naples, 8847 Tamiami Trail N, Naples. Kind of short notice, brother.
I'll grant you The 2018 is a great looking bike. The front suspension I am sure is a big improvement. The less luggage space, and smaller seat are a deal breaker for me, and my wife. The trunk, bag space, and seat comfort is why we went to a Goldwing. We will keep our first Generation GL1800. It does everything we want in a touring bike.
I have a 95 aspencade and I've ridden the 2018. I love the automatic but the 95 is more comfortable. Would like to have the dct though and keep my 95...b.o.b.w's
@@guudbwoy1974 the new drive train into that 1500 frame would be PERFECT!! I sincerely hope Honda hears us! Overall I think the new design will ultimately be a loser. It will initially get a good following because it is new with some cool improvements. IMHO they cast aside their biggest market. The comfort and two up market.
a very good review of your thoughts on the wing
I have the same bike as yours but it's a blue one. I bought the DCT model at first, and had to sell it four days later and then bought a manual one. Sounds crazy I know. Just like you, I keep most of the bike stocked except adding a 12 volt socket and an extended front fender. I like the bike a lot so far, not much complaint. BTW, I like your last line about being helpful or not. :D
Cheng Jacob Why did you get rid of your DCT? Couldn’t get used to it?
I don't know about the new wing but those fender extensions will crack the finder. I don't know if all models of it will I just know it cracked mine
@@stephensmith1034 I wouldn't say the DCT version is bad but it just didn't work for me. Simply couldn't get used to it. Unlike those bike with CVT, DCT keeps shifting gears according to the speed and you can hear it all the time! Low speed maneuvering is another issue. I know a lot of folks saying you will eventually get used to it through time, but if a clutch can handle all of the problem, why bother taking time to get used to it? Again, DCT is not bad at all, it just is a whole new different machine. My advice is, if you are new to heavy bike and not very comfortable shifting gears by yourself, then DCT is a good option. But if you have been riding for a long time and shifting gears is no brainer to you, you should probably stick with manual version. To me, when I set my hands on the manual Goldwing after losing some good money, I felt like home!
@@Bass.Player The fender extension for new wing is really easy to install compare with old wings, and it works fine for me so far.
Cheng Jacob I agree with everything you said.
Well I think they look good in black, that's all I really have to say that is any good. Especially with those two black things holding up the windshield, it's fiting with a black bike.
Going to go see one today
Great review! This helped. Trying to make a decision on which generation to buy! Thanks! 👍😎
Definitely helpful, thanks for sharing
I'm seriously considering making the big change from a BMW R1200GSA to a DCT Goldwing. It's tempting to just have both, but it bothers me to let one sit much and, obviously, one will.
It’s a big leap. I have a 2007 R1200R that I just can’t part with. While I doesn’t get out much it’s nice to have something sporty other than the Wing. I wouldn’t mind having one more in the stable.
I’m glad you still like it I totally get way you do, epic bike!😁👌
Great video mate.Humble and honest.Wish i lived near you would love to take a trip out with you.But i,m in England so probably won't happen. Keep the rubber side down (: And please keep the videos coming, your a star.
Thanks. I’m planning on England in the future so stranger things can happen
@@Petesmotoadventure well if you come over look me up. I live in Rochdale. Check out all the amazing places to ride all around me. North Yorkshire, Peak District, Lake District. I'm well blessed. ☺️
Many (most) folks dismiss DCT as an “automatic.” It is not. After the DCT and paddle shifters were implemented, Honda spent a couple bucks per vehicle to add computer operation of the paddles if desired. If the hand clutch and toe shifter tech came after paddle shifters, they would not have sold one!
When something shifts gears for you , I think it's safe to call it an automatic .
Great video....I love my Harley, but for some reason I have been looking at these. Loved the video! 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Great video mate love the bike be safe 👍
I agree 100% on the manual transmission. I dont need a computer telling me how ride. I've made it riding 35 years without a computer driven motorcycle.
A man and his bike. Glad you enjoy your bike. What is your gas mileage. I just bought a GW 2002 love it so far. Get about 40 ish miles per gal. Around town. Getting ready for a trip will see.? Girl friend really likes the back seat. Sorry about the wife. Enjoy the ride 😎🏍🇺🇸
Thankyou Pete, nice review, did you ever ride the f6b, any different from yours?
Really tempted to upgrade from my ST1300 to a 2018 GL1800, my dealer has a demonstrator ready to go. My wife currently has a pinched nerve so she is reluctant to ride it to try it out. But we'll see in a month or so...
Nice thing is Honda got smart about allowing Demo rides. Hope your wife feels better soon to get out on the road.
That ST1300 is a wonderful machine. Bulletproof engine!!
I am the stereotype buyer of a Goldwing. I am 60 and the Goldwing is my choice. I want late model or new, maybe 2016 or newer. I looked at a 2016 with 4,700 miles. Should I hold out for the 2018 with the new suspension and less buttons? Thoughts?
You can’t go wrong with either. Low mileage 2016 is a great bike. 2018 is wonderful bike. If you do a lot of 2 up I’d go with 2016.
Nice review, Great bike, i love my SilverGold
Great video! Thank you. I just bought a 2019 goldwing. I subscribed
You stated you had 2007 that is my bike now. I am debating an Indian Roadmaster or the new Gold Wing. Apples, Oranges? Two things may entice me what about the walking forward feature and the reverse. You no longer have to put it in neutral correct? Have you used those two features? Also the DCT? This should be my last bike and I want to choose the right one.
Mike Gonzales wing and the road master are apples and oranges. The Roadmaster has the cool factor and larger storage. I own the 6 speed manual Wing and yes reverse comes in handy just like on the 2007. If I was going to my last bike I would stick with the Wing and get the DCT, if Honda changes a few things in the next year or 2 I will get a DCT.
When I was looking for another bike last year it boiled down to storage for me and the post 17's just don't have it.
The ‘17 has more room than the 18 and up.
I'm looking for a GW but I will find one that is a couple years old. I want it for touring and storage is too small. That is a shame, the GW is a touring bike but not set up for enough storage imo.
Yeah it is a lot smaller than the previous model. I found on my last trip I had enough room for a week long solo trip. If my wife was with me not a chance. Of course I had a trailer when we went on long trips with the 2007.
I’m here for the: “law of attraction” therefore I want to state: “I will own a brand new white gold wing within the next year”
Depth brewed rollers. I ditched all my harleys, hubby got me into a CTX 1300, now I am wanting a gold wing or F6B, always had a tour pack not sure I can give that up...really in love with the white too.
So you would buy this bike again, but I am looking as a first time wing buyer. I love everything about the new goldwing... buuuuuutttt the dang price kills me haha... I found some old stock new 2018 tours for $20,000, so my question is, do you think the new 18's are worth that an extra $5000+ when compared to a comfort/audio 2014-2016 Gold Wing? My heart is wanting the 2018 but I am pretty sure the previous generation would be just as enjoyable to a first time wing owner... What do you think?
If you rode more in the winter would you still buy this bike? I'm in NC so we dont have bad winters but I find it more fun to ride in the cold than in 95 degree heat. Also I'm 6'4", 270 lbs. Should I get the comfort seat and be done with it?
Yes. On my last trip to the dragon mornings started in the upper 40’s-low 50’s. If I did live where it is cooler I would by the larger windscreen and lower air deflectors, to reduce the wind on my legs. The heated seat and grips work great. As for the seat I would go after market and have a custom built to give you more room. I’m 6’ with 34” inseam and fit great. 6’4” you might have some issues.
I test drove one and wasn't impressed with it. the one thing I disliked the most was the rear brake pedal location and the shifter location. its difficult to locate and with a big boot I don't know if you could brake or shift. I mean it wasn't a bad bike but for me it wasn't enough to spend the money on it.
If you are a large person I can definitely see a room issue.
Helpful video, Thank you! Wondering about any differences between the 18 and 19 Goldwing?
Just the colors. I don’t expect any major changes for a few years.
Liked the video you seem to have the same ideas about bikes and riding that I do
very informative! I love my '16....so it should last a few years :o)
How is the wind protection compared to the old version Goldwing? I hate cold wind so it's important to me. I love the new sporty look of the new GW but I'm afraid it comes with the price of more cold air blowing on me. I heard you say a sacrifice is more air...but is that something you can remedy ?? I don't tolerate cold wind very well 🙄.
JohnnyRebKy the old wing is far far better when it comes to weather protection. My last trip I got completely soaked something that didn’t happen on my 2007. I am going to invest in the larger touring windscreen as it is taller and wider then the stock. They heated grips and seat are great addition. Let me k ow if you have an other questions I’ll be happy to help.
@@Petesmotoadventure thank you sir! That helps tremendously. I know a taller windshield would help but it's the fairing itself that looked less protective when I sat on a 2020. I hate cold air that comes up from underneath a bike the most . The old Goldwing looks to have more fairing protection in that department. As much as I like the look of the new sleeker wings I may just have to go for a 2012 or so. At 36 I'm ready to be comfortable and warm as possible on a motorcycle lol. I just have low tolerance for cold like we have early in the morning . Other guys leave at 7am or so and I won't leave until noon because of it . Of course it's not all my fault...I have a thyroid problem that makes me sensative to cold. But I'm tired if missing out on good riding because of it 😣
I'm seeing more Harley's for sale at 3 local Honda dealers than Honda's! At least the one's outside...
It was helpful...thanks
Because the Goldwing is the best bike in the world ! lol
Give me a GoldWing
Definitely helpful...so here we are in 2021, and I am considering making the jump to a GW from a 2019 H-D Heritage. I found a dealer in SLC, Utah that has a brand new 2018 GW 6 speed manual without a tour pack--more like the F6B, I think. I could get a pretty good price on it, I think...&17,500. Any advice/thoughts?
That sounds like a good price. The non tour pack is the Goldwing, with the tour pack it is the Goldwing Tour fancy right. There are some differences between the 2. The non tour doesn’t have the center stand, and the traction control, and electronic suspension adjustments. A few minor other things. And you can always add the tour pack later.
@@Petesmotoadventure thank you very much for replying. I am trying to trade in my Heritage, and boy are we off. 😬😬 it has manual clutch...heated grips, cruise, etc. any problems with buying a 2018 new in 2021, you think?
I wouldn’t hesitate to by a 2018. Goldwing’s aren’t Harley’s. That bike will be flawless and you get a good deal.
Hey Pete how do you feel about the automatic versus manual🤔?
Personally I like the 6 speed manual over the DCT. Now if I did a lot of commuting around town DCT is the way to go. I’ve also ridden bikes with a quick shift, only use the clutch with start and stop. I found that’s the best of both worlds.
10 out of 10 for no BS!
I have a 2013 F6B, test drove one of these, I too took out the DCT version, 100% agree would never by the DCT, one thing I was severely disappointed with was the sound on the radio of this new bike, my F6B, I can hear the radio on volume 20 at 80 miles an hour, I was doing 60 miles an hour with this bike, not sure if it's due to the shorter windshield or what, but I couldn't even hear the sound at full blast of the radio. Any comment on that?
John Keller I found the stereo on my 2007 was much louder then the new bike. Speaker position on the older model was more in the face, plus the faring did keep wind noise lower. I wear a FF helmet and around 80 mph I have the sound around 15-20 depending on were the windscreen is positioned. I’m sure the short shield and narrow front on the new wing make a difference to the sound.
Overall lack of wind protection.
@@Petesmotoadventure so then do you believe putting that taller windshield on that's wider also would cut down and allow you to hear the radio better at lower speeds?
I really like the front end and a few other things on the new wing. Have you compared the engine RPM with your friends 05 on the hwy?
I ride a GL1800 and love the thing, I'm big 6'1" @ 280 and it fits me, I did have the seat modified to give me more room so I could sit back a little further.
Haven’t compared the RPM, my 07 ran about 3300 at around 75mph. New topic for a video. I’m 6’ 190# I find the new bike with about the same seat position. I have 34” inseam. See if your local dealer has a demo bike, always fun to ride something new.
@@Petesmotoadventure I can't afford one anymore, I'm retired and my new bike buying days are over. I'm afraid I would like it anyway... I understand that the new engine is not as smooth as the old one, though still smooth...
Hey Pete,did u install fog lights? Honda?Was it difficult? Thanks for honesty.
I installed them myself. Here’s a how to video. ruclips.net/video/-XlwVYl0RhI/видео.html
Great video! One question. I have a 2018 with 8000 miles and just getting ready to put a new set a tires on. Came with the Dunlop and I am thinking about going with Bridgestone Have you had to put new tires on your bike yet with 9200 miles?
Just replaced my Bridgstones at 10,400 with a new set..
I really enjoy them with no issues at all. I have not tried the Dunlop’s as yet due to my tire shops comments about the front cupping .
Go with Pirellis.
Dunlops only here.
Why are people buying tires at 10k? This Summers trip was 12k on new tires and are still like new?? Checked by dealer upon return and was told not even close to replacement.
Great share!
great review...i value a OWNERS opinion....
Thanks for this Pete. I have been eyeing up a goldwing off and on for years. I have owned mostly BMW 1200 rts with a 1300gt a couple of 1200LTs and currently a 1600GT thrown in. So, you're a 1200r owner, how do you find the goldwing feels around traffic and car parks with gravel etc?.
It feels good around traffic. Granted it is bigger so weaving around needs a bit more space. Plenty of power to get you around. Gravel is interesting simple because of the weight. Nice thing it has a low center of gravity.
@@Petesmotoadventure I hear you, my K1600 is similar, not as low of a center of gravity, but with bags on, challenging :). Thanks.
Hey Pete, have you had any service done yet? Air filter etc. How much was oil change? Thanks
I do all my own service. I haven’t done the air filter yet. Oil change is very straightforward.
Hi. Thanks for your valuable insight. Have you ridden the newer k1600gt? If so, how would you compare the 2.
Take care and rise safe bud
I did ride a the K1600. Great bike.
lol love the ending of this - it's helpful
Did the backrest make a significant difference,and does it hold you too upright?
Not really. The nice thing with the utopia is you can adjust the angle. I mess with it all the time since you can adjust it while riding.
You know why you wouldn't need to buy another one???? That's an easy answer because it will last forever as long as the general maintenance is kept up on it
I would have watched the entire video, but I could hardly understand what your saying. The volume level was too low I don't have a problem hearing most videos. And IMO, 9:30 is too long a video when not riding or working on the bike. But that's me. And if you're not gonna motovlog, talk while riding, I'm not interested. But I will be watching to see what you do.
Jeff Tilghman
Sounds like you need to make videos Jeff, so we can all see what that perfect video looks like. The volume seemed just fine on my IPad. Ride safe and ride often.
I had the same problem Jeff. Had to really listen as the volume was so low. The content is great and honest. Maybe a remote mic on the shirt would be better.
Road Glide .....you hit that spot on. Nicely said👍
Hi I have been contemplating buying a 2018 wing! But here in England they are around £23000 second hand that’s a big heap of money and an even bigger Loan! How do you Justify this commitment ?
Yours Piere Middle England!
Hello Piere. It is a large financial decision. One reason is I tend to keep bikes a long time. I had my 2007 Goldwing for 12 years. Over time it makes sense. If I were to trade in bikes every few years I would buy used and never new. £23000 pounds to USD wow that’s a big number. Almost 30k.
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How do you like those rivco switchblade foot pegs?
I like them well enough. The look is great but you can’t put your heel on top because they will fold in. I thought about trying the gold strike pegs. The price of the Rivco is also a drawback.
@@Petesmotoadventure thank You so much. That makes sense they would fold in when laying heals on . That is a no go for me
Great perspective; love the white! Do the side bags hold a full face helmet?
Not a chance of fitting a FF in the side bags. Of course the older one couldn’t either. The top case can hold 2 small ones.
Petes1800 Thanks! TopCase must include then!!
I got the 18 nontour...and yeah, fuck the seat and 2 up--its a solo machine for sure. With u on control/manual shift. Rode the DCT...I don't want an 800lb scooter. Ridiculous with all the tech and gizmos in our life.
What about the lack of the foot warmer ducts? Do you get warm air on your feet anymore?
Didn’t have them on my old wing, so I never missed them. My feet don’t get cold, I live in FL. When I do cold weather riding I wear a heavier riding boot.
Nice bike would you consider trading for 2016 klr and a 2008 vette?
I have a 2002 and I will never buy a new one, it's got 40,000 original miles and I am 55 years old. I am so happy I didn't get sucked into buying a newer bike. With all the false economy in the world, a Honda Goldwing for that money shouldn't have that many problems...
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I like your video. Here's a video to help you with your seat problem...
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I use to have a XS1100 Yamaha, so that is the background I come from.
I've been debating how old I am. Am I old enough to enjoy a goldwing or am I young enough to want the sportiness of a C14/FJR/etc
I have a bussa and zx6 in the garage. I feel I deprived myself for many years by not buying a wing sooner.
You are only too young if too dumb to buy the very sporty goldwing.
I tested the FJR. Great bike but my body can’t handle the position. I couldn’t do the miles I can do on the Wing. I have a BMW r1200r for fun.
I ride a 2012 C14. Got it new and modded it for traveling including Mccruise. Good bike. I am getting tired of the top heaviness. That said I’m late 60s and could use more comfort. Test rode a dct for a couple hours and was really surprised how much I liked it. This may be my next bike.
Hi Pete, I would appreciate your honest opinion. I have a 00 Valkyrie standard. Have had her for about 15 years now. I've added hard bags from a tourer that a trike conversion was selling, but otherwise she is factory. Am I going to like a wing? What year should I be looking at? Wife does not like riding, she tolerates one bike, will actively resist two. I kinda like the old girl for sentimental reasons and want to keep her. (yes that sentence is deliberately ambiguous) How hard should I fight to keep both bikes? Will a new wing impress me so much I forget about the Valk? My daughter loves riding and we often go out together. But will only be a few years and she will have her own licence and her own bike. In New Zealand new wings start at around $40k, market value of my old Valk is less than $10k and I really have no idea how much I would get for the wife.
I’m sure you would like the a Wing. Before my 2018 I owned a 2007. Now there are many differences between them the GL1800 is an amazing motorcycle. Getting rid of the Valk would be difficult. Yes the Newer version is technologically superior, but the old Valks have class and style. I’d be torn about getting rid of it. I have a 2007 BMW R1200R and for 2 years I say I’m going to sell it and just can’t let it go. My wife tolerates my 2 bikes for now. I know in the States Honda offers Demo rides for the Goldwing, not sure about NZ.
Speaking of NZ, I was there last year for a couple of weeks, and you my friend live in amazing part of the world. One of my first thoughts was I wish I had a motorcycle here. I hope to get back there soon.
@@Petesmotoadventure one of the best things about riding in NZ, we drive on the correct side of the road, so the bike leans away from traffic when you put her on the side stand! 😜
Sir, with due respect for the vicissitudes of international exchange rates in these troubled times, I believe the current rate for one wife is a camel. However, I must caution you since attractive as that can seem, camels are predominately an off-road choice and can be difficult on motorways. Further, I feel you may find the seat height to be in excess of both Valkyrie and GL1800, and that getting both feet down at traffic lights might prove troublesome for riders with less than 6ft 4” inside leg measurement. In conclusion I must advise keeping your wife, if for no other reason, camels whilst a godsend for the keen lawn carer, cannot be trusted with daffodils. My work here is done, best regards.
Thanks for the video, just one comment you voice level is very low and hard hear
Thanks for watching. I just got a new mic to improve my audio.
Question
My 2016 roast my lower legs in warm weather. Nuclear fission heat from the radiators. How does the new wing feel in that regard?
Definitely more air on the new bike. It’s still warm, but there is more air movement.
I sold my 2010 Goldwing. I test rode the new Goldwing. I noticed the amount of wind noise on the new bike is louder. Do you notice that too? Any ideas on how to correct this?
Yes it does have more wind noise. The wind screen is lower and narrower than the previous model. I just raise the screen up and it decreases the noise dramatically. There are also larger screens available from Honda and third parties at this point.
I think what it is... On the previous gw model you had to manually lift the front screen. There was no gap between the screen and the front body( where front head light is) it was flush together with no air gap at the bottom of the windscreen. I took a demo ride on the new gw I noticed On the new gw when you raise the wind shield there is an air gap at the bottom of the shield.. where it meet with the body.
So big that You can slide your fingers through the new gap. Highway winds get into that gap and it create a wind tunnel humming effect. That new noise makes it harder to hear the radio at highway riding.
I think the solution would be to close that gap like the previous Goldwing. So no air goes through the bottom of the screen. Just Up and around.
This should quiet the wind noise down on highway rides.
Someone should come up with a rubber or plastic adapter to close that gap when the wind shield is in the up position.
@@jrmiamivids It's basic acoustic properties. I put the new one next to my 07 and the 18 had a much better sound and perceived volume sitting still side by side. The added wind noise of the 18 added to the rear speakers having to fight the wind dead on knocks the sound volume and quality down when moving. the faster you go the worse it gets. It is the same as if I took my expensive live music speakers out of a dance hall and had them face an 80 MPH wind. They would go from great to super suck. Those rear speakers are stuck in the wind. Relying on air movement for the creation of sound they are being crushed every mph you gain the less efficient the speaker can be.
Do you know of any good speaker upgrades for the 2018 Goldwing? Maybe add an audio amp to increase sound quality?
@@jrmiamivids need to know speaker size and dimensions of the cavity they go in. It's all about power to overcome or defeat wind pressure.
Dct? You compared wind protection to touring Harley models?
Mine is 6 speed manual. I’ve ridden Ultras before, I would say the 2018 is about the same maybe a bit better. My 2007 had far more wind protection.
Petes1800 Thanks...interesting about the wind protection. Do you happen to know what are good years of used Goldwings?
How is your garage so clean Pete?
Perspective, if I turn the camera it’s not so clean. Movie magic.