FAILED Roller Coasters: Harley Quinn Crazy Coaster at Six Flags Discovery Kingdom
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- Опубликовано: 20 авг 2024
- In Vallejo, California, a single-rail roller coaster debuted. However, despite the efforts of Skyline Attractions, this ride ended up being another failed attraction.
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What you dont do this for FREE?!?! j/k :D
2018...this ride is terrible
Disgusting that we live in a time where we have to even think of these factors
I actually worked at Discovery Kingdom during highschool, and I was assigned to the crew of this ride! The ride was broken more often than not, and when it was running it was hell. The noise was BONE CRUNCHINGLY loud leaving me with a headache every shift. On top of that, I never saw a guest get off the ride happy, so I only rode it once and yeah it was bad. A fun fact: during the fall and winter of 2018 there was a pretty heavy rain season and the ride vehicles rusted completely and shut down for months. ANOTHER fun fact is that the second of the two "cars" didn't work. The restraints were completely broken and once unlocked couldn't relock. The ride permanently ran at half capacity after opening day. It was the biggest mess in the park, and I got transferred to wonder woman lasso of truth not long after the rust-related closure.
Holy shit hi Chris. This is will
@@meneslayus YOOOOOO
I remember you I seen you when I was riding the the Harley quinn ride and yes it was super loud.
So you are saying noise-cancelling earmuffs would have been a must working the attraction?
@@alecday3775 I'm saying I should have gotten workers compensation lol
Thanks for the fair review and history of the Harley Quinn Crazy Coaster. Although it's sad when a project doesn't go as planned, there were a lot of important lessons that we were able to take away from this ride and apply to our future attractions and products. Because of this experience, we've been able to overhaul and improve our design processes for future rides, including the design and engineering work we do for Great Coasters International. This has allowed for incredible things like Texas Stingray at SeaWorld San Antonio, Roaring Timbers at Sun World Hon Thom Nature Park, and the exciting weld-free Titan Track (which is actually a similar design to the track on Skywarp II and P'Sghetti Bowl), just to name a few. We're excited for the future of Skyline!
im really rooting for ya'll and can't wait to ride your future rides! although its sad harley quinn didn't work out, it's still a heck of a story and the ride will live on pretty vividly in the minds of enthusiasts - I personally love obsessing on short lived rare rides ha. tidal twister is really fun too!
As are many enthusiasts. It is also great to see a company take such an active role in social media with its fans. Thank you.
I didn't ride the Harley Quinn, so I don't have a baseline for understanding how much vibration there was. What I am very interested in is how you determined the welds were significant enough to go weld-free. Thanks.
Really hopeful that Harley Quinn gets a sequel!!
Let’s go Skyline! Before too long you will become the next Intamin or RMC!
It's clear that Skyline have learnt from their mistakes. Harley Quinn Crazy Coaster is a prime example of learning from failures and building them into successes. All in all, I'm sure Skyline will soon prevail in the theme park industry.
Learning from
FAILURES🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I’ve watched too much Steven He
lol there done for major parks
You've been Gettin' Learnt with Ricky too much.
Learning from their past mistakes 😂
Learnt 🤭
Six Flags: How do we tell our guests that we’re closing an attraction?
CEO: We’ll just comment on a Facebook post.
Six Flags: Another job well done.
Lol
I feel like they had an actual press release prepared and some social media person for the company messed up
Lol
Way to funny
More like CEO: Don't let the public know that the ride is closed it is bad for our reputation.
Social media employee: *reading dozens of comments and questions about the ride per day.* "Oops I forgot I wasn't supposed to say that. 😳 Also I found work somewhere else this was my last day here. Take care and stay safe 😘. "
I have to admire their creativity! Their unique trains looking like they’re chasing each other make my eyes happy
"They saw it not as a failure, but as a learning experience". This is why I believe they will ultimately succeed. The primary difference between failures and successes is how we respond to the failures, because there will always be failures, especially at the beginning with something new and innovative.
I’m wearing the Harley Quinn: Crazy Coaster t-shirt right now. Nothing like walking around, sporting EPIC FAIL (errr, LEARNING EXPERIENCE) on your chest, for all to see!
I don’t know if I should consider that you are lucky or unlucky. 😆
Did you like the ride?
I feel like the concept is good but it has to be made by someone with experience with coasters and flat rides so it isn’t rough and painful.
The track was manufactured by rocky mountain construction
But designed by skyline attractions
@@Morris-3341 you’re right. I was just trying to say Skyline wasn’t the right choice for this.
@@Morris-3341 let’s hope they improve as they make more of these.
@@ThemeParkAvenue yea but every concept has issues
The whole dynamic of Harley Quinn was very aesthetically pleasing. Let's just save face and call it a flat coaster.
It is really amazing to me that the companies involved didn't take into account the head banging or noise factor before the full build of this coaster, and it's not surprising it's now gone.
It's so refreshing to see an enthusiast remain so positive, motivated, and engaging in the industry. The lack of negativity by Peter is a win!
I love when you talk about innovative family coasters for people like me who can't go on big, crazy coasters. I'm disabled and can't handle the crazy G-forces & being thrown around too much of big coasters, so it's nice to see ones I could try!
Honestly, same. I prefer less crazy rides but it always seems like they're thinking of making them higher, faster and upside-down or going in loops or something.
Some people call it a coaster, some call it a flat ride. But if it has track, trains, and an RCDB page, then that's good enough for me.
What about the fact that it doesn't "coast"
Some people didn’t consider it one due to the fact it was powered partially, but gravity does take over at some point so it is TECHNICALLY a coaster. Definitely more of a coaster than Larson loops that’s for sure
@@ThrillsofColdplay Is an inverted impulse coaster a coaster to you ?
Yet RCDB removed the entries for the gravity-powered variants of Pretzel dark rides, even though they rely on gravity & momentum outside the lifthill, possibly just because they share the same name with definitely-not-coaster powered dark rides by the same manufacturer
@@joshfreund6008 its a coaster
The Harley Quinn is my type of ride. Small, simple design that can fit into any park with its size and cost, great for younger audiences and anyone who wants a simple thrill that isn't too much.
I've always loved simplistic designs in rides.
Its great, just spam 9 of them in your park and it'll generate 900 extra guests.
@@greed0599 I miss playing Rollercoaster Tycoon
They could’ve given the Harley Quinn name to something so much crazier. Some huge, wacky, fast rollercoaster like what Skyline does.
Damn, I hope Skyline manage to keep going! Cheaper rollercoasters would be good for small parks everywhere, and their designs are so unique - the new seats look like a great solution (idk why you wouldn't have gone with that style from the beginning)
The fact that predominantly wooden coaster designers decided to revert to steel is pretty impressive on its own. I think it’s a shame Harley Quinn was such a failure, if it was a great success more parks would be investing in Skyline’s great looking new innovations.
Thanks for sharing. I helped build Harley Quinn Crazy Coaster. I did the maintenance on the ride and went to many ride calls when it would malfunction. I am really glad that Jeff and the crew were able to learn from this design and move on to bigger and better things.
Glad they see it as a learning experience. The "compact affordable thrill coaster" niche could use some new players, especially ones with out of the box designs. Hopefully they'll pull off a Vekoma, and perhaps bring Dustin Sloane's Poseidon's Fury to life
I’d also love better coasters for traveling fairs
So it suffered from the usual prototype problems as well as being a first attempt at a coaster for this company. Makes sense.
But their way of dealing with it is actually great. It was a learning experience and they don't seem to want to give up after a first try being a failure.
Love to see an artist/company take complaints to heart and iterate improvements, improvements, innovations, and even more improvements each time
I hope one day we'll be able to see a revised version of the Harley Quinn coaster that would actually be a bit more intense
And not broken half the time. I had a Platinum pass and went 1nce every couple days. I loved the ride. As one of my old favorites when I was a kid was daredevil. Friend worked in it and the second Train was always broken. Once the restraints unlocked. They couldn't lock.
@@Gregory.Lukashinand with a smoother track
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I say add tidal tiwster too because it is trash to
Okay
@Iamtortila.-. I went on tidal tiwster on the opening year and the ride I had was very bad and rough
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The video was amazing mate. This highlights the errors and mistakes that skyline has created with rides like Harley Quinn. Better make more videos like this mate
To learn about a ride like Harley Quinn is definitely an amazing lesson. I don't care how long rides like that lasted but learning the history of attractions is always fun and engaging. Thank you Theme Park Crazy!!
many years ago (like 27 years ago!) I worked at Great America in the carpenter shop and everyday at the crack of dawn (yes our start time was whatever time sunrise was) we had to walk the full track of the Grizzly Wooden Coaster checking every bolt and replacing them as needed. Man that was hard work!
I was one of the lucky few to get to ride Harley Quinn. It was turrible. You could hear the metal clanking (and heads banging) from the parking lot about a mile away. Great concept, poor execution.
Love your videos, keep up the great work!
I think it’s crazy, how the single rail track, known for being really good track, was able to be such a flop. I hope that the new type of track will run better.
Failure is an Opportunity to learn what to do right next time.
I really hope Skyline keeps tweaking this Coaster until they get it right.
Besides the Sound and the uncomfortable Ride Restraints, It looks like it could be a really fun Ride.
I rode Tidal twister today, it was definitely running much better, I didn't see it break down, and it was running smoother since they took the trains off and put them back on, still slaps.
Wow, props the company behind the coaster, Skyline Attractions. Everything that went wrong for them did go wrong, except what went wrong also went right. They did not attempt to circumvent safety measures or have problems that could raise some serious safety concerns. Or show other signs of weakness in their company via the coaster. So in the sense for being one of the first big coasters by the company I would say that should be a win in their books.
I find it crazy that when a new coaster model is made the first one is mostly a learning point but when that same model is made a couple more times it’s the best it can be
>too loud
>knocked your head around too much
>had constant downtime
Yep, sounds like Harley Quinn.
I used to work in Ops for Six Flags. (not Discovery Kingdom) It's may seem "ok" to a lot of you that this was a "learning experience". However, when something like this fails the park lays off staff and makes cuts to recoup the loss. What some of you call "learning" I prefer to call a Swindle. Six Flags took a risk on an inexperienced company because they over promised on what they could offer. No one at Six Flags wanted this to be an experiment. (I really enjoyed the video! I'll definitely watch more!!)
10:52 😂😂😂
Peter, I understand you’re trying to avoid demonetization, but this is too funny!!
I rode this once, as Discovery Kingdom is my local Six Flags park.
It’s as underwhelming/ boring as it looks.
Yeah it looks a bit dull. Far more fit for fairs, then a big amusement park. Probably good for younger riders looking to try out loops.
As someone who worked on that ride, I'm sorry. We all knew and we couldn't say anything.
Honestly I liked the other coaster designs but "double immelman" to me just looked like a dull "modern" take on a larson superloop, and coming in just another six flags installed a good amount of them in there parks. Also the permanent versions don't suffer the shakiness and thus headbanging Harley apparently did. To me though the TIdal Twister one is more like a shwarzkophf Bayern Curve, so if they can make better versions of it along with the nicknamed "pringle coaster" clearly also meant for a younger crowd, I'd definitely hope to see one of there machines near me soon once the kinks are mostly out.
@@bezoticallyyours83 ...Exactly, a starter coaster, kinda like training wheels.
@@kelil1750 Yup, little kids who are finally hitting the height requirements. I did the Hi-Roller and Ring of Fire as my first upside-down coasters at the fairs. Holy shit the Hi-Roller scared me. I was not expecting the entire track to flip.
If I were a amusement park manager I would be the one to give Skyline another chance. I think the new models will be much much better than the first 2!
Most people HATE riding backwards..it's best when a ride like that halfways through switches direction to give the people going backwards a chance to go forward for a bit so everyone is pleased.
This video gave me deja vu from my childhood. When I was 10 years old in 1999, a theme park close to where I grew up called Dollywood debuted their very first full sized outdoor rollercoaster called the Tennessee Tornado. I remember being so excited that year when we finally went to Dollywood, as I was a coaster fanatic as a kid.
Standing in line having visions of how epic this was going to be, I waited 2 hours until it was finally my turn. This was a metal track coaster with a seat design that strapped you in exactly like the Harley Quinn coaster in your video, with over the shoulder restraints that locked down very tightly and securely.
Unfortunately, this coasters over the shoulder restraints were made out of what I can only describe as extremely hard rubber. If you pushed on it with your finger it would compress down a tiny bit but not much at all. And when I say it was hard, I mean it was solid and dense as it could be for a rubber type material.
That wouldn't have been an issue were it not for the fact that the Tennessee Tornado suffered from the same problem as Harley Quinn. Anytime the coaster picked up speed, went through loops, or anytime the G forces would go up the cars of the coaster would vibrate and shake. Violently. Very violently. And where the hard rubber restraints were literally a few inches away from your head on either side, every time the cars shook it would cause your head to literally BOUNCE like a ping pong ball rapidly between these hard restraints. Over, and over, and over again.
I'd say half the passengers, myself included, were in tears and had migraines if not mild concussions by the time the ride was over. It made my mother puke and hurt my head so bad we ended up leaving after we rode it. Every single passenger said the same thing, their heads bounced like a ping pong ball rapidly between the restraints the whole time and it was so painful they'd never ride it again.
I never did ride it again, and to this day it was the worst experience I've ever had on a coaster and I've been stuck on a few before but that by far was the worst.
There's a saying in Hollywood: Good, fast, cheap: pick two. If it's cheap and fast it won't be good, and that's what they got here. But they've taken responsibility for it and they're learning from their mistakes and that's important.
NGL, I find it weird considering how this coaster was still under construction when you started the Failed Coasters Series and now there's a video about it only 4 years later.
I remember this coaster being first announced. And now seeing it closing only after 2 years of operation is just shocking to me.
I lived down the street from DK my whole life and I remember that coaster when it was put it up. The next time I looked it was gone. 😂😂😂 I always wondered what happened. This video is super awesome.
Came here from the ball pit video. You’re very good at citing your sources and providing evidence and explanation. Both vids are great! Going on a deep dive
That statue looked amazing 👏🏾 😍, I hope it went to a good owner and not destroyed :^( poor Harley 😢
Good move on both seaworld and skyline to open Tidal Twister around Emperors opening. It’s gonna help with crowds since these are the two newest rides at the park and they are located far a part from each other.
Skyline to me is the most open manufacture and they don't shy away after a flop
I really wish them luck.
Not Giving up after failure is a positive response learn from mistakes
God speed to them and. Can't wait to ride kne of those looks cool
So, I currently work at the park. They didn't even tell us they removed Harley Quinn until a guest pointed it out to me. From what I heard from coworkers, no one liked riding or working it. It was costing too much to maintain, and constantly having downtime
Yeah i worked there as well, and saw it was never being used .
I remember being new to coasters and being excited to go on this, then walking off and thinking about how stupid past me was.
The skywarp seemed about as exciting as a block of cheese without holes in it, excited to see how skyline improve it to create more thrills :)
Thanks for the video. Your research and writing gets better with every video and this is top notch. Also made me excited to what skyline could do next.
My only comment is if you could reconsider the amount of stock video footage. Sometimes it feels distracting. Thanks
I have a lot of faith in skyline, what they are doing is dope and it’s great that they are learning from their mistakes.
I remember seeing this coaster when it was first announced in videos and other promotional material and I thought it looks pretty unique. But I never got to see it in person since that park wasn't my home park. But had no idea though about the issues it had, but hey I learned something new! Also thanks for reading my comment :D
I drive by Discovery Kingdom almost daily and I can honestly say that I rarely saw it running. Now I know why. Six Flags should look into the now vacant fairgrounds property directly across the street. They could build overpasses to get people from 1 side of the road to the other.
Oh yeah the vacant fairgrounds
They can’t put much there sadly
Apart from the technical issues, I think a big source of the ire these rides got was the fact that they weren't added to family entertainment centers, small amusement parks, or state fairs, where you'd pay $6 to ride it and be perfectly content with what it is. They were added to major theme parks like Six Flags and SeaWorld where you pay big money just to get in the gate, and where you expect to get big-budget rides in return. These parks advertised them as big new must-see E-ticket rides worth making the $100+ trip for, so guests were understandably disappointed by what they got instead.
I remember being so hyped for this ride, had no idea it flopped and got scrapped that quickly.
I thought this would be a fun ride, but now I’m glad I never rode it.
You didn't miss nothing
Failures are a part of engineering and we never dwell on them, we review, rethink and then redesign. Coasters like Harley Quinn Crazy Coaster develop the industry as seen with Skyline Attractions. From and engineers point of view, that was a successful prototype.
That Strike Up looks cool
the ride was Loud, Rough, and gave people headaches? well at least they themed it to the character who does the same thing to people
Haha
Given that the ride is dead, I guess that’s why Harley Quinn is in the Suicide Squad.
They have some nice red covering over where it was now - mulch or gravel or something. Looks better than the mud pit.
Yes, engineering and design are hard. I'm thankful that if I make a mistake that it isn't super costly or deadly unlike failed engineering projects.
Baha I love the stick footage of the business dude surrounded by graphs throwing his papers on the desk. So over the top. Great video, what a saga!
Seems like "head banging" is a common complaint of people these days. Harley Quinn sounded like a 1980s Larsen Super Loop in a tunnel.
It feels so strange seeing a coaster fail so recently but Harley Quinn Crazy Coaster makes sense.
I’m glad they’re remaking the Skywarp! It seems like an incredibly exciting concept, and remaking it in entire in-house will allow them to solve all the problems Harley Quinn suffered from
If the Harley Quinn coaster had much better success, I could see a sister coaster called Infinity being made since the track layout can easily passed for it's symbol. Definitely an interesting design overall.
Oh man. With all the new roller coasters coming out I have no doubt in a couple years they’ll figure out how to make this work flawlessly
I've said it before and I'll say it again, this is the only credit I don't mind that I missed.
Six Flags Discovery Kingdom is my local park and I was always wondering what exactly happened to Harley Quinn. I was never able to ride despite visiting multiple times a year since it’s always closed. I went last month and saw that is was totally gone. But from the looks of it, I probably didn’t miss much after seeing what riders have said. Great video btw
i haven't been there in like a decade. Is the park better now? My family and i stopped going cause it became a terrible experience every time. The place felt rundown
I am absolutely baffled on how a coaster the size of two Larson Super Loops, built by a company that builds elite wooden coasters can make a poorly made, rough piece of crap that only lasts a year. I thought the days of short-lived coasters were behind us(-4 years)
I think it’s cute how the ride named after Harley Quinn was built right next to the ride named after the Joker!
To be fair though, Discovery Kingdom has had quite a few rides come and go. I think Six Flag uses it as a testing site. It's always under construction.
gotta hope more skyline coasters get build to see if it actually better for what they did its amazing to see "big" companies listening wich dosent always happend so its great to see some do it
Good thing Skyline learned from their mistakes and I bet their new innovation on the Skywarp could go to a small park like Valleyfair or Michigan’s Adventure in the future!
After 1 year in development, I can safely say, it was worth the wait!
They really are committed to the try try again mindset! Gotta respect the creativity. Great video!
sad the ride type named after me failed, hope their new version of the skywarp does better
the double loop for some reason reminds me of Dueling Dragons. just nowhere near as good
I'm glad the company is at least learning from their mistakes and wants to improve. Best of luck to them!
I do appreciate their ambition, but it really does suck that the coaster failed. Awesome video!
Also, as a UC student, I love the fact that the first picture of the Skyline Attractions crew together has GABP and downtown Cincinnati in the background😆
They were eating Skyline chili when they named the company ;)
Well there is a first for everything but it is nice to see Skyline not giving up. I'm ready to see what else they will come up with in the future and see if any one will purchase some attractions from them.
I wonder if kings island will get a skyline coaster, and theme it to skyline chili. Heck, they could get a p’sghetti model too, and make a whole area themed to skyline chili!!
Jeff created the centerline for Mystic Timbers, so I guess you can say Skyline's got a coaster at King's Island ;)
I wonder if, provided the Skywarp 2 irons out the creases of the Skywarp 1, we might see them pop up in a similar "cheap, reliable, relatively exciting fit-this-in-just-about-anywhere" fashion to the legendary HUSS Enterprise?
seeing as my home park almost never gets any coverage its nice to see an entire video dedicated to it
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@ThemeParkCrazy yeah it was great! i remember being disappointed it was closed the week it was supposed to open going with my friend, so we came back a month later and got in a few rides and it was pretty ok considering Discovery Kingdom rarely gets additions like the others do.
Great example of how to find the positive in something negative. Also Great ample of the quote from batman. Why do we fall? So we can learn to pick ourselves back up again.
This looks like something you would train on before you ride an actual roller coaster lol
Back when I worked there, the queue was covered with cobwebs, spiders, rust, and just a shit ton of lost items from the Batman ride next door. It was truly a weird experience when I had to climb over the ride to grab a guest’s phone. I wasn’t aware it failed so badly!! My lead just said “you don’t wanna know” 💀
I would go as far as to say that Harley Quinn Crazy Coaster it's up there with Yomiuriland's Twist Coaster Robin, Nürburgring's Ring Racer, Walibi Belgium's Vertigo, and King Island's original Bat as one up the shortest-lived roller coasters of all time.
Seems like Harley Quinn's Crazy actions has came to an end, thanks to Batman and Six Flags.
Wait til the joker hears this piece of news.
I still believe the Great American Scream Machine at Six Flags Great Adventure was a great coaster! I really miss that ride
Imagine if Six Flags purchased the skywarp 2 model and named it harley quinn and sent it to discovery kingdom XD
… six flags is the same as discovery kingdom. It’s called six flags discovery kingdom… it’s one name
@@pillowtalk1925 no not like that, I meant if the COMPANY purchased a skywarp 2 and SENT it to discovery kingdom
That last family indoor coaster, not sure the name of, that Skyline did is like a breath of fresh air. Its like this company is re-inventing the wheel but with coasters.
This was very informative! And I actually rode tidal twister a few times and it wasn’t completely closed since I actually rode it a total of 3 times last year. They just opened it in random days I guess and it was pretty comfortable to ride
I love their ideas...we will see how they shake out over time, but still like their ideas
Well, I've been the dark. I had no idea this was closed. It's cool to see this company keep trying to succeed though. I think learn from your mistakes should be more normalized.
It also failed because a bunch of people tried to film on that ride, which obviously made us wait longer... THEN when the ride stopped when the operator noticed the phone or camera, the ride started to be "delayed" because it was forced to stop it's duration. We waited for probably half an hour.
I once rode Harley quinn crazy coaster during its opening day
Gosh, It was rough. I guess skyline have learnt their mistake from that coaster. And hoping tidal twister is doing okay. Because I also rode it before and it was smoother than Harley quinn.
Another great video, Peter.