Can It Really Be That Good? Seiko Cocktail Time Review [ SRPB41J1 ]
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- Опубликовано: 6 июл 2024
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Vario Harris Tweed: • Strangely Appealing : ...
Blue Perlon:
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That's a lot of cameo Watches in this one. Nevertheless, today is all about Cocktail Time. Can the Seiko Cocktail Time line of Watches really be that good. To answer that we take a closer look at the blue SRPB41J1. 40.5mm wide, and powered by a Seiko 4R35 movement.
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#relative-time #Seiko #CocktailTime
TOC
00:00 Intro
01:16 Specs
04:26 Case
06:09 Dial
10:30 Movement
11:00 Bracelet
12:22 Wraping Up 
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if i were you i'd apply to be a reader for audiobooks
Yes, for meditation and relaxation. 🙂
I put his playlist on at bedtime and I sleep like a baby...wake up in the morning and it’s still going ! Calm and restful.
But then we wouldn’t see him hold a watch all cringe like next to his face...🤷🏼♂️
He has the voice for that job
Top voice dude
I have this watch with the blue dial. It's gorgeous. Sometimes I don't want to know the time but I still look at it because I need to. It's beautiful
Your strap collection is still second to none. Great video..
Thanks! This one pairs well with a lot of them.
@@RelativeTime could you please help me finding straps? Have the same watch and I want to put on something other than the bracelet.
@@rohanjangam511 what are you looking for?
@@RelativeTime the blue (pearlon?) and the gray one!
Also, is the brown leather strap an ostrich leather strap?
@@rohanjangam511 there should be links in the description on the straps I used. But if missed one let me know.
Love your photos here! You brought the best out of this watch. Good stuff!
Nice review! I own the green one myself, very happy with it. I love the details of the dial, the way the light reflects on all the elements and the fact that the second hand is gold coloured while the hour and minute hand are silver. A great watch that I wear a lot and enjoy very much. Wishing you a lot of enjoyment with your blue one, it looks very nice!
Oh , Finally I've purchased this watch and came back to see this review , it's amazing.
Great review, as usual. I love the idea of the "business casual of the watch world."
I've always felt similarly, I usually buy most of my watches with objective measures and value in mind. My blue moon cocktail time didn't quite fulfill those measures, but who cares, it is stunningly beautiful. It is the exception.
Great review Shane. Love this piece. I have the SRBP43J1 Ice Blue Skydiving reference. It’s a terrific dress option during the work week.
Wow! Perfect timing for this video. I just bought this watch on Black Friday weekend. I had to buy a couple things from the Apple Store @ the mall & had to go through JC Pennys to get to my car. Walked by the watch counter so had to see the displays. Nothing really peaked my interest. Finished up @ the clearance counter & there I saw it. Holy 💩 they have a Seiko Blue Moon on clearance. Instant purchase. Walked out there paying $100 for it. Felt like I robbed the place. Apparently it was overstock from not carrying Seiko anymore & switching to Citizen.
This was the first mechanical watch i bought for myself. I got into watches a few years ago and always liked Seiko, and at first i wanted to go for the cheaper SRPA25K1 but the moment i saw this i knew i had to have one. Since then (just under a year ago) i bought 4 more Seikos (two are hand-wound vintage dress models so i don't wear them that much, and some sport model), and although i now wear my 'grail' watch (a 1964 Seikomatic Weekdater 6206-8040 with a beautiful patina dial) almost every day since i got it, i still take this one out of the box and wear it (or just look at it) at least once a week. I almost feel guilty if i don't! That dial is just so pretty, it's hypnotizing!
That Seiko dial is nothing short of amazing.
Each "flute" on the dial appears to have a series of micro-flutes within. Very nice detail at this price.
That fibre textured grey stap gave the dial of the watch a steep competition. That is just a dope combo.
Yes they really are that good. I own the ice blue dial version and it's one of the few watches I never grow tired of wearing.
I do love the Cocktail Time range. I purchased the red Negroni in a sale last year and it’s absolutely superb. This is the other one I have my eye on. I saw it in the flesh a few months ago and was wowed. A superb design but it’s took a 25% off Black Friday offer to bring it down to price I was happy to checkout. It looks stunning on that Tweed strap.
Great review as usual, and great shots as usual (you really captured this spectacular dial). I've never noticed the half polished/half brushed hands on these before. I agree with you, that's pretty brilliant. And as much as I love to look at that dial (like you said), I have to figure if I'd pull that blue one off (or the silver one) wearing it. Maybe a grey dial would suit me best, not sure. But they do look bloody amazing, that's for sure.
I don't mind a 40mm dress watch at all. Nice to see this one slimmed down to 12mm. And dang that dial looks great under macro, I've always liked it, but don't think I've really appreciated how cool it really is.
The 40mm size makes the watch wear more casually than a 38mm or smaller watch would. Since I'm not a dressy fellow in general, the size is fine with me.
The vast majority of people are not wearing the correct dress to be worried about calling something a dress watch.
Most watches are every day watches and it does not matter what you actually wear them with. A dress watch is typically something in the 30 to 35mm range but it tends to be a luxury watch and not so much Seiko watches.
The cocktail is an everyday casual watch.
I hope future versions will slim down to 11mm, within my preferred range of 8-11mm
@@bighands69 I don't dress up to begin with haha
I bought this one last Sunday. It looks great and got many compliments on it.
Great review, thanks. New dials now and wow: Sunburst (here), guilloche, hemp, basket weave, herringbone. All are amazing! Need sapphire glass tho!
Great review as always! I've owned the sarb065 and the pressage cocktail time in the past and i regret selling both of them. I do like the version you have but the light blue sunburst dial is captivating and though i had little occasion to wear them out, I found myself wearing them at home zoning out on the gorgeous dials. Great value and style for the money imo.
I lusted after one of these for a couple of years. Finally bought one when I bought my wife her SRP839 for her 40th. Don't regret it one bit and it gets a few days of wrist time every week.
Great video... I'll need to take a second look at this piece, very stunning.
Great review. I love this watch so much that if it didn't fit my personal style, I'd change my style to make it work. :-)
To answer for the dauphine hands, Jaeger LeCoultre does the dual finish in the Master Control Ultra thin, so it is a great approach to legibility. Great video!
Great video, love my cocktail time. Don't wear it as much as I used to as I no longer wear a suit daily.
found your channel because of this watch. subbed because im mesmerized by your narrative
Thanks, and welcome! These videos take time to put together, but I enjoy doing it. Always glad to hear when someone enjoyed it.
The blue helps this watch dress down a bit, it's a fun looking dial. Can easily rock it with a polo, flannel, plaid, etc. Cool watch, wore it at my wedding, nice review
This is the exact purpose I'm considering this watch for. Although I am wearing a similarly blue suit. Hopefully it doesn't clash.
I hope your day went well 🙂
Like yourself, I rarely dress up. I wear a uniform (as many security guards do), or am relaxing... but this is indeed a nice looking watch. Beautiful dial, great review!
I went with the SRPB46J1, but the blue looks very tasty too, especially on some of those straps. I agree with your points regarding the legibility - it does a great job of informing you of the time despite your attention being mostly focused on the play of light across that dial.
I've been torn between that one and the blue for the longest time ever now. Still don't know which one to get. That brown dial looks so unique.
I have this. Simply the most beautiful watch I own. It dresses up or down. Wore it yesterday and I couldn’t stop stating at it
Gorgeous
It's one of those watches, where the more you look at it the more you appreciate it.
This must be the best review for these Seiko Cocktails that I've ever come across in youtube !
Great review
Very nice review I was actually going to buy the blue ice cocktail time, but you sold me on the deep blue one it really is enchanting. Where did you find that nice blue NATO for it? thank you, keep up the good work!
Wow your voice is very soothing... great review...
Thanks for your genuine review 👍
Thanks and thanks for watching!
Very in-depth review and valid points about if it fits your style. I too was about to pull the trigger when it was on sale but didnt end buying; I would really only wear it in more formal events or business casual.
thanks for the great review~!
If you wear it on a rubber strap it becamew an excelent everyday watch
The Orient Star Classic the same with the hands. Nice watch an good review 👍
Very good reviews.. thanks
Just had to buy this watch today.great video pal
Glad you enjoyed it!
I Love Seiko Presage Cocktail Time Range so much that it was very difficult for me to decide between the Blue and Green, so I decided to acquire both. Now I have got both, the Blue Moon on Steel Bracelet whereas Mockingbird on a Brown Ostrich Leather Strap and I Love both of them.
Very nice review! Can anyone explain how matte/polished hands help to see under any lighting conditions? I didn't got it. Is it because in low light the one will reflect back the other not so that contrast help us "spot" the hands?
I recently bought the Orient Star shown in the video. What a great watch! Waiting for you to review it!
Nice! How do you like it so far?
Hoping to have it done beginning of next month, but so far very impressed. Love the brushed finish on it, with the polished edge that runs along the side.
@@RelativeTime oh, yeah! I also noticed that polished edge. It reminds me to the SARB033. In fact, in my opinion this watch is the perfect alternative to the discontinued Seiko. I also love the hands of this beauty, notice that they are both polished and brushed. The indices are also remarkable, they are prominent and catch all the light. You see… I love this watch. I got it at Chrono24 for about 425 euros. Looking forward for your review! And thank's for your answer 🙂
@@joanramirez4523 I agree with you. Mine is with the white dial, extremely happy with it. Best regards.
The crown is cupcake shaped haha beautiful watch and I plan on getting one soon!
I've owned this watch for about a year and a half now, and in my opinion it perfectly represents the current state of Seiko's market plan. Hardlex crystal, poor quality bracelet, a 4R36 movement that I needed to send back in for a warranty repair...Seiko knows we hate all of those things, and they don't care. They know they've got us hypnotized with that gorgeous blue dial. Seiko will keep moving their watch lines down in spec and up in price as long as we keep handing over our money. I, for one, won't stand for it any longer! Well, after I buy that new "Negroni" red dial, anyway...
Oh man, I need that red one too.
It's not for me anyway. Too dressy for an everyday watch. It wud never get worn. I prefer wearing something like my black dial, black bezel omega planet ocean for my daily. And if I'm going more dressy I'd reach for my gold cartier or longines conquest heritage. If I'm going smart casual I'd be more inclined to wear my Raymond weil maestro (beatles Abbey Road) which is similar in style to this cocktail time but a little toned compared to the seiko on the dressy front.
Mine had someone's Eye Lash stuck to the Crystal...gave it to my younger son
I love that heather strap, may I ask where you got it?
One of the two seikos i fell for of recent years ,the cocktail time & the other being the gen 2 monster,totally stand out watches from the brand imho. & a well presented review too my friend.
Thanks! Love the monsters as well, I need to check out anohter.
Purchased the SSA385J1 a while back. Decent watch, limited 7000 item run.
I'd be interested in a review/ your opinion on it.
Many thanks
I love this watch, I actually ran across the "women's" 34mm fuyugeshiki cocktail time by chance and immediately picked it up. I've been itching for a dress watch and I was immediately satisfied with it. The details are great, the hands and indices look almost black polish and the facets together with the dial really make you get lost in it everytime you look to check the time. Unfortunately, I realized too late that it had a qc issue: The hour hand was misaligned. I ended up having to bring it to a local watch maker who did a sloppy job. I got it back with tiny scratches on the hands and a small scratch on the dial, both of which are only obvious when you try to look for them. Still sucks though, don't know when I can get over it lol. But I do like it enough that I'm considering to buy a second one for a different strap option.
Excellent review and excellent conclusion (perhaps because the question you raised does apply to me ^_^ )
I have the limited edition Presage Star Bar. It’s awesome. I had to just check the hands on it, they’re polished only.
Very good review of a very beautiful watch. Thank you. Somewhat like you I do not particularly adhere to a cocktail milieu.
Seiko is the king of dials.
I have several more expensive watches but this one might just be my favorite. it's in the everyday wear rotation.
Also i think the choice for Hardlex came from the fact it's boxed (hard/expensive to make sapphire in this shape) and that it sticks out so much. Sapphire is indeed harder and less prone to scratches than Hardlex, but is also more brittle and will shatter or crack easier.
I believe you are right. Marc's sapphire box cut replacement is $100 by itself.
Your voice sound really gooood 😂😂😂😂😂 and yes, this watch is my watch list to buy also
A very thorough review. Definitely remove the bracelet but I think that this piece still represents excellent value for money. It's worth the price for the dial alone. Alternative? Dufrane Waterloo perhaps. A left field but worthy possibility.
I wanted one of these years ago too, till I discovered the SSA347J1, basically the same watch with a power reserve indicator. I finally got that watch last year, and while I do really enjoy it, I must say the dial is much less striking in the flesh than in photos or your review. It really needs to be in strong natural light to bring out its best. It would be strange if the J models had a less spectacular dial than the non J.
I have this and wish there was a bit of lume on the hands
I have way too many divers (it’s not a bad problem to have lol) when I bought the presage (my first dressy ish kinda watch) and I do love it! This same color and the stock bracelet is fantastic. This will be my new special occasion watch
I have the sieko prassage SRPE17J1 dark grey. Which leather strap works. I really like blue leather. Any brands in mind?
Great review, Shane. You are consistently the best source of information regarding affordable watches. I am not a dress watch guy....but if I was, the lack of Sapphire and low end bracelet would probably steer me elsewhere...even at a higher price.
That's one thing the Zelos Nova has one it. That, and I think the brown one I reviewed has a little bit more casual feel to it. Which I think makes it a better everyday watch. At least for me.
@@RelativeTime Oh yes, the Expresso.....
I went for black and it’s beautiful
Do you know if there's a watch like this but with gold hour markers instead of silver? I looked at the seiko srpe13j1 but the outside of the dial was kinda bulky
I have almost bought this watch (and the green dial) many times. I never pulled the trigg though. Your review has me looking again lol
Do it.just got one today alough it is yet to arrive. Sure it wont be my last one.
A perfect option of you want a great dress watch without spending too much.
Great Presage in dark blue, I would buy it too if it wasn't for my ice blue version. But who knows.. ....😄
liked and subscribed. i think this model knocks it out of the park.
That is an amazing review, Though I loved the watch , I was disappointed of no sapphire case.
Nice video, nice watch... thanks
Thanks for watching!
Very good camerawork
Thanks!
I saw the pink color way of this watch in a shop window and the dial was stunning. Not my color but still a beautiful looking watch none the less. As I only wear jeans and t-shirt, ( I don't even own a pair of shorts) I think I could wear one of these. I feel they lean more towards "smart casual dress" (dinner date) as apposed to actual dress (suit and tie). Just my thoughts. That said I can't stop looking at the new red (Negroni) or the green (Majito). Great review and awesome macros as usual. Thanks your all your hard work making these vids for us all.
ps. Hope you and your family have a merry christmas.
Thanks! That's probably a good way to think about them. I've been checking out the new ones as well. Might try and get a Mojito early next year. If I can find a good price on one.
Great video
Does the bracelet fit onto the SNKK27?
The black cocktail time was the second automatic watch I've ever bought and I used all the time before the pandemic. I liked it so much because it could be easily dressed up or down (it's not your typical dress watch after all) and as long as you like the dial and don't live/work in strct formal environments you can pull it off in pretty much all occasions (as long as it stays away from water). I've seen bought the maroon dial one, the STAR BAR honeycomb-pattern one and the Fuyugeshiki. The last 2 have very interesting and different dials if you want to take a look at them. While 4 Cokctail Times are certainly overkill and a lot could be improved, it's still a watch I can't get enough of.
Man i bought it 3 months before the pandemic didnt get to wear it much haha
Hello good man.
Love your reviews!
Does your Minute Hand looks like it Slightly Bent Down / Curved Down a few millimeters towards the Tip ???
Or I got an imperfect one?
Minute hand or second hand. The second hand.. maybe. Min hand, I don't think so. Although it's pretty hard to tell with this one with the distortion from the crytal.
Hallo friend super video, please tell me from where can i buy this textile wrap in 13:55 ?
I very much like the ostrich strap.
I can't keep track of all the Cocktail Times and other fancy dialed Presages, one more beautiful than the next. I especially like the look of the power reserve models with the pointer date complication, but they are a little too thick for me to consider them truly great designs. The honeycomb dial and the scalloped dial are standouts, too...
Very soothing voice. Akin to Christian Bale as Patrick Bateman in American Psycho.
That's a bit harsh, I like to think of Shane as a watch Bob Ross myself 😄
@@johnanth I meant it as a compliment!
@@johnanth I meant it as a compliment!
@@johnanth 😆😂
@@johnanth Bob Ross is my spirit animal. 😎
good day my friend!
I’m good with everything on the watch I am surprised they didn’t do drilled lugs
Great video, Shane!I have the SRPB43J1 - the ice blue cocktail time. I love it! At 1:51, is it the Orient star contemporary standard black? Will you be reviewing that as well?
It's actually a different one. Not sure if this one has a proper name, or is readily available in the USA. Might be a JDM. The reference is RE-AU0004B00B. Plan to review it soon. Tus watches gave me a discount on it, just like with the Diver. So I was hoping to have it done before the end of the year, but might be the beginning of January.
So far I'm very impressed with it. Tus said that a lot of people compare it to the SARB033, and they thought it had a little bit better finishing on it. The finishing is one thing I really love and wasn't initially expecting. It has a great brushed finish on the sides and top. Yet a nice and rather wide mirror-polished chamfered edge that goes along the side of the case and the front of the lugs. Which then meets the polished bezel.
I think some Grand Seikos have a similar look, but I'm sure their finishing is even better.
@@RelativeTimeWhat caught my attention was those faceted indices on the dial. Will be waiting for your review. Thanks, Shane.
It was a nice video. Thanks for it!
May I ask you which one do you choose? Tissot prx powermatic 80 or Seiko SRPB41?
Between those two I'd probably go with the Tissot. Although I also like the srpe45 mojito
I'm wearing my SARB065 as I watch this. I love it - so special for the price.
Now that I've seen this one, I'd be curious to see some of the others. Do you ever think the 065 is too tall?
@@RelativeTime No I really don't. I have worn it in dressy situations, and it'll go under a shirt cuff without too much problem. I think it's only 1.2mm taller than the Presage variants and for me that's a very small price to pay.
Personally I prefer it due to the smaller crown which just looks more harmonious to the overall design, as well as the upgraded movement and font on the dial. I love the various cocktail time colourways, but I'll never give up the SARB. :)
I've owned "The Blue Lagoon" for a year now. It wasn't until your excellent macro shots that I learned the dauphine hands were half polished and half matte. As you noted its a brilliant design element. This watch is a keeper in my collection (I received it as a service gift and tied to some company pride) but I don't wear it as often as it deserves. I blame the times we're in and the lack of opportunities to dress up - or even go into the office. Maybe I'm afraid to damage it.
I agree with you on another point: There is something off about the bracelet. It lets the watch down. I've placed this on a very nice black leather strap and it's better but not quite right, so it's back on the stock bracelet. Strap Code makes a bracelet for the Cocktail Time with the power reserve, that might fit on this and solve the 'something missing' from this watch. Regardless, when I do wear it, I don't look past the sunray dial - it's mesmerizing. Great review.
Me too
Great review my man 👍. I wish I had gotten the blue and not the white. And I never noticed the finishing on the hands before. Excuse me while I go check mine.🙃
That's exactly what I did. As soon as they mentioned it I broke out the macro lens to check.
Are you going to review the orient star at minute 1:55 ? Or have you already done so? I've been looking into it and i hope you will make a video about it.
He's going to review it in start of January
I was also tempted by this. Mainly because of dial and secondly because it came with stock steel bracelet (I don't like anything else). Buuuuut... The hardlex and the presence of the date window (which badly ruins the dial symmetry) were an absolute deal breakers. Also from Pressage line I'm expecting something better than the 4R35 movement... (see the SARB, for instance)
Beautiful watch! I'll admit, I don't really have a lot of use for dress watches, either. As a chef I work a fair amount and even before the pandemic I was kind of a hermit.😂 Still it's another great entry from Seiko.
I have this exact watch and I appreciate your review. I have owned the watch now for about 18 months and it has found a place in my rotation, even with COVID restrictions limiting somewhat occasions for me to where it.
I put mine on a Strapcode Angus Jubilee bracelet, but your review makes me want to try a blue perlon strap next spring or summer.
I agree with you the strength of this watch is the dial, which is nicer than watches I own costing a lot more money. Because this is a bit of a dressy watch, I don't really mind the lack of sapphire crystal. As to the movement, so far it is very accurate and reliable. Whether that remains true in 5 or 10 years IDK.
So, who is this watch for? For a Seiko collector who wants something a bit dressy but in a contemporary size. For the watch guy who wants something on the dressy side of things, but still sporty enough to wear with casual attire, especially on the Strapcode bracelet. Or it could be a "nice watch" for a non watch guy. Maybe a watch a woman might buy for her non watch guy husband, boyfriend or fiance.
Your review was very helpful in my decision making thanks a lot really appreciated the who is this watch for section.
Long Island Watch does have (or at least advertises) the sapphire crystal, but they don't have an installation service, which sucks. They say it has to be glued in and you'll need your own watchmaker to do it.
Not in the same category of dress watch but check out the Armand Nicolet line
I love Cocktail Times, I’ve got three of the newer ones and the original. I have to say that whilst the crown on the original was smaller, it’s also not as practical as the newer versions - it can be a nightmare pulling the crown out if you’ve just cut your nails, and it makes hacking a real pain at times. The crowns on the newer Cocktail Times are much more practical in that respect.
2:00 where can I find this strap
Good review, as always; Shane. I think, these days; I'm just about done with Seiko. Almost any watch you pick up at the same price point, will give you more for your money. They finally give you a signed crown, then; forget to put a sapphire crystal on it? Folded links on a $350 watch? Keep dreamin' Seiko! I can think of MANY watches at this price point that I had MUCH rather have. Many!
Awesome video🙂👍
Thank you 👍
A watch is the sum of all of its parts. This is great dial, with a sub-par sloppily-regulated movement.
Right, the stunning dial is the USP of this Seiko Cocktail Time. It's biggest downside is the Hardlex crystal on a watch at this price point imo. It's all the worse as it is so exposed due to its domed shape. It's the main reason why I prefer Microbrand alternatives being just as beautiful like the Zelos Nova or the Empire Vario all day long. But a brilliant and enjoyable review as always, Cheers! 👍
Where do you get these bands? They look amazing on this watch.
Check the descripton, I usually list them there. Or if there is one that isn't let me know.
I want this watch but I want the crown to be like 2/3 1/2 the size that it is. Bit obnoxious having a crown that large