The BEST Inexpensive Trainer Jet - FMS Viper 70mm V2

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  • Опубликовано: 4 авг 2024
  • FMS re-engineered the Viper 70mm to fly better and have full suspension gear, all while maintaining a $299 price point - very inexpensive for what you get! This is a fantastic learning platform for new pilots and offers a ton of fun and solid flight performance to experienced pilots too. Like what you see?
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    0:00 Viper 70mm Intro & Overview
    1:52 Flap Settings
    2:42 AS3X Settings & Takeoff w/ SMC 3600 LiHV
    3:47 Landing Tutorial for Beginner & Intermediate Pilots
    5:58 Acro Flying
    7:00 Touch & Goes, Landing
    9:07 Accelerated Stall Talk
    10:11 Takeoff & Accelerated Stall Demos
    10:57 Landing Pattern Stalls
    11:46 Bank Angle & Airspeed, Landing Advice & Demos
    14:28 Landing
    15:08 Agility Demos
    17:50 Canyon Flying
    19:50 Landing
    20:40 TwoBros Review
    22:10 TwoBros Score
    24:01 Viper Flight Characteristics
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  • @roberthill2315
    @roberthill2315 10 месяцев назад +4

    Thanks! I've watched every video you made for the planes I own, and they have helped tremendously. I recently purchased an FMS Viper 70mm V2, because I believe it will help me tune my skills for the Freewing F15, and Freewing F16 Thundebird edition. When I maidened by Viper, I had watched enough to set everything up correctly, however, in light winds, I didn't sufficiently anticipate the plane stalling on a turn. I thought I had enough thrust to get through the turn but did not. I anticipated other factors as the cause (a hot wifi signal interrupting reception, problems with the used receiver I had in the model). Basically it hit the ground and the nose broke off. I've since repaired it, changed and reoriented the receiver, and this time I watched you video that discusses stalling this plane. I was ready in maiden #2 to try again in light wind (

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  10 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks so much Robert! We really appreciate the super thanks donation.
      Your experience is precisely why we showed how aircraft stall and how to recover from stalls. The thrust to weight ratio on the Viper 70 (FMS variant) is so high that it's relatively easy to power out of a stall and get airflow over the wings again. It's super common for people to unfortunately stall this jet out and wreck it - and if these videos can help even a small handful of people save money and have more fun flying, then it's worth it for us to continue producing them.

  • @lelzie
    @lelzie Год назад +1

    Great work on explaining what you are doing on the sticks and giving information to newcomers to the hobby. Looking forward to taking these tips to the field to improve my skills.

  • @jayaustin3096
    @jayaustin3096 Год назад +4

    Thanks for the tips and telling us your stick positions when you fly. All that helps. Great looking jet. Excellent filming, she never lost her.

  • @bowenbrown
    @bowenbrown Год назад +8

    Ah so this is the super secret saturday upload.

  • @ficosk8
    @ficosk8 Месяц назад +1

    The stall talk is really useful!! :D

  • @richhollenbeck5619
    @richhollenbeck5619 Год назад

    I just love watching touch and goes, especially when they are smooth as butter!

  • @ficosk8
    @ficosk8 3 месяца назад +2

    Wow that part with Stalls resumed very good what I have been experiencing, watching and reading! Thanks!

  • @CaseyCRC
    @CaseyCRC Год назад +1

    This is a great plane! I’m not a beginner but bought this using your link because I wanted a less expensive jet to challenge and improve my skill. Just maiden her in 25-30 mph gusty conditions and it was great! 126mph (tail wind) using the 4400 SMC HV pack. Thanks for all your vids… inspiring me to expand and test my pilot skills!

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад

      Thanks for supporting us, Casey! Hopefully we can give back a little more with tomorrow's vid - "How to be a successful RUclips RC Influencer" - which will go through all of our tips and techniques to build a YT channel with a large following.

  • @Chrismarquez7
    @Chrismarquez7 Год назад +1

    Just ordered mine yesterday. Can’t wait!!

  • @BrianTurner-ub2tu
    @BrianTurner-ub2tu Год назад +3

    Thank you for the amazing detailed landing training!! This video is a must watch for new edf pilots!! I so want this jet! Its fantastic looking and small! Thanks John for another amazing video and great pilot skills!

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад

      Happy to help!

    • @jeffarab4947
      @jeffarab4947 Год назад

      Get a viper u won't regret it's worth the money it isn't too small either perfect size

  • @danflom1271
    @danflom1271 Год назад

    Great information and demonstration Jon. 10/10

  • @Tallguysrc
    @Tallguysrc Год назад

    Another great video, and sharing the stall info was perfect

  • @mattcook5302
    @mattcook5302 Год назад +1

    Nice little bird. Viper 90 was my first EDF. The viper jets are the best .

  • @lancelink88
    @lancelink88 Год назад +4

    Very important information on stalls and landings. ❤ Everyone must have stalled on final turn...it can be heartbreaking...

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад +1

      Yep! Which is why we want to see everyone succeed - some other reviewers will just show you that the plane can fly. What we want to do is show you that it can fly *and* show you that you can fly it without wrecking it too. Because knowledge should be shared, and flight / aerodynamics is hard enough already.

  • @robgoffroad
    @robgoffroad Год назад

    Wow what a great plane! And great flying too. I'd love to have it but since I rarely have a smooth surface to operate off of, I'll be sticking to big-wheeled bush planes for now.

  • @michaelgeorgallis9350
    @michaelgeorgallis9350 Год назад

    Great video. Very tempted to get one to practice new moves

  • @jeffarab4947
    @jeffarab4947 Год назад

    Amazing edf one of my favs and scale aircraft the real mk2 viper is also so cool. This is a great jet I own same one and hsd too nice finally impressed with the gears that's what it needed the whole time haha fms makes awesome inrunner setups tho really efficient and keeps amps not too high. One of thr best jets great smooth east flyer and has awesome flight times

  • @avimizrachi1012
    @avimizrachi1012 Год назад

    Thank you for sharing your knowledge you're the best

  • @andysmith4394
    @andysmith4394 Год назад

    Just taught my lad how to fly jets definitively going to get him this one 🤙🏻

  • @salisburysm
    @salisburysm Год назад

    Thanks for this video and the discounts. I just ordered two planes from the money saved from clicking your link and using the discount code. You just got another subscriber! 😁

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад +1

      Thanks so much, Steve! Happy to have you on board with us.

  • @MasAUS
    @MasAUS Год назад

    Amazing , thank you 👍👍

  • @LoveRC
    @LoveRC Год назад +1

    Thanks for the coupon!! Just ordered her!!

  • @SuperMagnum2011
    @SuperMagnum2011 5 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you.🇬🇧

  • @adrsprints
    @adrsprints 6 месяцев назад

    I've been trying to replicate a stall in my rc plane simulator to know what it looks like but never got to see it. Finally, a video with an explanation! I'm saving this. Thanks alot!

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  6 месяцев назад

      Stalls aren't really modeled well in simulators. They're best experienced IRL.

    • @adrsprints
      @adrsprints 6 месяцев назад

      @TwoBrosRC Thanks for that Info. With regard to your tip, not to bank hard (left for landing in the vid) so as to not to lose airflow, would rudder input help (sort of a semi knife edge)? I'm not sure if I worded that properly, but I hope my question made sense.

  • @andysmith4394
    @andysmith4394 Год назад

    Great honest review ❤ 🛩🇬🇧

  • @nirlachman007
    @nirlachman007 Год назад +3

    Another amazing review! I really liked the new addition in before the flight, where you showed your mixes and AS3X configurations! Really helpful 🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @pstarxxx78
    @pstarxxx78 Год назад

    This stall info is extremely educational.

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад +1

      It's much needed info for sure. We want to see fewer people suffering from totally preventable crashes.

  • @ladyhawk7408
    @ladyhawk7408 Год назад

    If I didn't already have the eflight viper 70mm and the older fms viper...and the viper 90mm... I am digging the paint job on this though... aaarg!!! Why do you tempt mee!!!. Seriously though this is the best price you can get a viper70mm for. If I didn't already own 3 I would jump on this.

  • @applepiegaming6277
    @applepiegaming6277 Год назад

    Nice!

  • @LuisMunoz-il8nh
    @LuisMunoz-il8nh Год назад

    Beautiful 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

  • @Joe_Zajac
    @Joe_Zajac Год назад

    Very helpful! Thanks, Jon. I need all the help I can get landing 70mm+ EDFs in the “tree bowl” at Suggs Farm. The stall bit me there with my viper when landing. Minor repairs. I ordered some machined spring loaded gear as well as the 5280 A.B. and need to get those installed and get it back in the air soon.

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад

      If you'd like, we can probably meet up soon and do some mentoring. Our IX20 is in the shop for repairs.

  • @Hughejazshole
    @Hughejazshole Год назад

    Love it

  • @ronnymiller7395
    @ronnymiller7395 Год назад

    This was actually a really helpful video. Basic stuff but I honestly wasn’t that familiar with how a lot of this works because everything I fly is so overpowered. I kinda want the rafale but I think this is a better starting point since my habu probably didn’t teach me much useful stuff… also I think this is the good motor for 8s if I want a little more power.

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад

      Surprisingly, it's actually not basic info at all - you'd think so, but a lot of people don't know this. That's why we chose to provide the info on a beginner's jet - so people would know how to avoid these issues to begin with. Thanks for checking it out!

  • @KalibasauRC_64
    @KalibasauRC_64 Год назад

    The great plane

  • @royalemusicofficial95
    @royalemusicofficial95 Год назад +1

    Finally someone who explains landing EDF’s. Been flying these since 2012 and never really understood what needed to happen for a proper landing. Excellent work

  • @lazytrevor4628
    @lazytrevor4628 Год назад

    Thanks for your time brother!!
    Really helpful your advices, I also follow you on insta, love your videos.
    Please keep on!!
    Regards

  • @crosswindjones
    @crosswindjones Год назад +1

    This is an excellent, high-quality review! I appreciate your organization and the extra landing discussion. The only additional bullet I would like to see in EVERY review is how it handles on grass ops. Getting that insight in a review is hit or miss with mostly misses. Keep up the quality work!

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад

      We don't fly from a location that has grass that's suitable for flying, and Vipers are already well-known for handling grass well. This one should do even better with the shock absorbing landing gear, which should make it a good model for anyone regardless of where they fly.

  • @Airguardian
    @Airguardian Год назад +1

    Not a fan of the livery but Vipers are always good performers! ^^

  • @jayaustin3096
    @jayaustin3096 Год назад +1

    Another comment, could you do a video on how to condition your planes to fly. You mentioned the foam hinges. I've heard people using foam tac with a cue tip. That would be a great educational video. Thanks.

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад

      There was no conditioning here - we simply unboxed it and assembled it.

  • @itzjoeylo4501
    @itzjoeylo4501 11 месяцев назад

    RC Flight ✈️ School Love It….

  • @garydelrosario7213
    @garydelrosario7213 Год назад

    Great video, very helpful for transitioning to edf. How do you reinforce foam hinges? And prevent them from failing. Thanks.

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад

      Reinforcing can be done with tape, but a jet like this usually requires removing the control surfaces and reattaching them with nylon steel-pinned hinges.

  • @speedteamhpi
    @speedteamhpi Год назад

    Awesome cant wait for E-flite's V2 version..

  • @Ahkeys82
    @Ahkeys82 Год назад +1

    How is the turning radius on the new version? The old one and the Horizon Hobby Viper, was bad. It would only turn normally one way. The other way was very minimal. Thanks. Good video!

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад +1

      It's pretty tight with a lot of throttle. No issues with turning that we noticed.

  • @maskog
    @maskog Год назад

    Hello Jon, I truly appreciate all your efforts in bringing a very detailed teaching on how to fly this jets. Getting paid or not, you do a fantastic job with this instructional videos. I do need your help though. Can you share info on what receiver you used in this viper and some setup info please 🙏🏾. Thanks buddy

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад +1

      All the relevant setup info you'll want to follow is in the Viper's manual. We use 150% rates with 50% expo on all surfaces. The receiver is a Spektrum AR637T: bit.ly/3dCjiuO

    • @maskog
      @maskog Год назад

      @@TwoBrosRC Thanks 🙏🏾 Jon. Have you reviewed Freewing F35 V2? If so, can you share the link. Thanks again

  • @JohnDoe50047
    @JohnDoe50047 10 месяцев назад

    Hi, can you translate your flap settings into EdgeTX's servo travel scale? Rather than using percentages like Spektrum, -100 is full deflection in one direction, 0 is centered, and +100 is full deflection in the other direction. If -100 is flaps up and +100 is flaps down, where would your settings be? Or alternatively, what are your settings in millimeters of travel? Thanks!

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  10 месяцев назад

      We use -150 and +150 units of travel.

  • @jthatcher36
    @jthatcher36 11 месяцев назад

    Are the points on your throttle / AS3X gain curve the same as the curve you used in your F-22 setup video? I set my Viper up last night with your recommended gain settings with the gear up and gear down curve from the raptor tutorial.

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  11 месяцев назад +1

      Yep, they're basically identical.

  • @danielfulop3470
    @danielfulop3470 Год назад

    Hello. the Led-afterburner light is a part of the PNP package ("Viper V2 15th") directly from FMS, or was it mounted additionally? thanks for the response, many more similar videos.. daniel, slovakia

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад +1

      We mentioned it in the vid, specifically the beginning. It's also in the description. Look for the 5280RC section.

  • @jared6072
    @jared6072 Год назад

    Nice footage and advice. Ive wanted to get a good all around 70mm jet that will zoom zoom and be aerobatic enough to do tumbles if im getting an itch to get a little crazy. Ive been stuck between getting another fms viper 70 or trying out either the yak130 or the little avanti. Im leaning towards the viper now with the little upgrades and possible tweaks to the airframe that make it handle better. What would you recommened?

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад +1

      Viper 70 all the way. The Yak is great too but it's not as capable as the Viper.

    • @jared6072
      @jared6072 Год назад

      @@TwoBrosRC thanks man. Thats what i was hoping to hear😄

  • @longyang-funvideo
    @longyang-funvideo Год назад +2

    Hi, thank you for providing the detailed explanation on flying this new Viper from FMS.
    I have a question regarding to this Viper though. How different is it from the HortizonHobby 70mm Viper? Comparing their physical specs, they look identical. Same length, same wingspan, same lines almost everywhere. The HorizonHobby 70mm Viper, as we know, isn't an real easy model to fly, very easy to bounce and pretty fast speed when landing.
    Thank you for your answer in advance. Please keep your excellent work which is very helpful!

    • @ladyhawk7408
      @ladyhawk7408 Год назад +1

      This is essentially the same jet. This in my opinion is the better viper 70s. This one is closer to the price the jet should be and those aquishy wheels. I don't have the v2. But I have the eflite and the v1.... they are the same jet. Or might as well be. This is the better deal. Imo

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад +1

      As Lady Hawk put it, they're very similar. The HH variant comes with a receiver and has a moderately less powerful motor.

  • @dalegregory3019
    @dalegregory3019 Год назад

    Can you tell me what video you were referring to in setting up the AS3X gain to throttle curve for fast and slow flights? Nice flying and landings!

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад

      Our F-22 setup guide should cover it.

  • @stainjah
    @stainjah Год назад

    Is it best to put in a spektrum reciever or v
    Will the reflex gyro v2 work just as well with my NX10?

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад +1

      It doesn't come with a Reflex gyro, but Spektrum receivers will work with one if you'd prefer to use it.

  • @koko-wt1ub
    @koko-wt1ub Год назад

    Jon, do you feel it’s worth upgrading the chicken wire gear on my eflite viper 70 for this upgraded gear set? I’m currently flying off grass….thx

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад +1

      Absolutely it's worth doing.

  • @asafm32
    @asafm32 Год назад

    Hey john! thank you so much for the video. I'm planning on buying this jet as my second one after the freewing banshee :)
    unfortunately with each plane i own i have to buy new set of batteries which makes it even more expensive :(
    could you please tell me, 1st fms recommend to use 6s 3300mh battery but you are using 3600, please advise me what is the best battery size for me to pick for this jet. unfortunately i cannot buy from smc because it is too pricy for me and i am living too far away for them to ship it. (planning on getting at least 3 batteries) and second question what is the connector that i need for the battery is xt60? i hope so.
    thanks in advance

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад

      3600 HV packs weigh about as much as 3300 LiPo packs. 3300 should work fine. The ESC uses XT90/EC5.

  • @ImCxlt
    @ImCxlt Год назад

    I am looking at getting this model however I have a Budget. would an AR620 be a decent/good receiver for this plane?

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад

      We'd recommend saving up for an AR631 at minimum - you'll want to put an antenna away from the wiring and battery. It might work but we would not recommend that setup.

  • @kianwong4625
    @kianwong4625 6 месяцев назад

    Hi john love this jet. Can you strengthen and hence give longevity to the foam hinges by adding clear tape across them? Cheers kian

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  6 месяцев назад

      Yes, you absolutely could do that.

    • @kianwong4625
      @kianwong4625 6 месяцев назад

      Great thanks john. I wish i could fly like you -time will tell-i have crashed a few times with my umx pitts -but i know through your videos that i was tip stalling.. @@TwoBrosRC

  • @MayBayRCWorld
    @MayBayRCWorld 9 месяцев назад

    Seem you dont need to turn on flap when landing ? did it make easier for landing ?

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  9 месяцев назад

      We're using flaps.

  • @thomaseperjesy9171
    @thomaseperjesy9171 Год назад

    Are there any (major) differences between the FMS 70 and the eflite 70 or are they quite the same?

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад

      The FMS variant uses a stronger motor and ESC combination, but doesn't come with a receiver.

  • @toddflyer
    @toddflyer Год назад

    I really value your opinion. With EDF jets, what are the best jets for medium grass ops. From your experience can you list the best down to the worst EDF jets that can perform on grass. I currently have the Eflite f 15 hand toss no problem. I also have E flite 70mm Thunderbird. It won't budge on grass. Thanks.

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад +1

      We'd highly recommend finding pavement or smooth dirt to fly from. Grass is terrible for many reasons, most of which relate to the amount of stress that the uneven surface causes to aircraft gear and the mounts that hold them in place. There is no perfect grass jet - the only thing that's come close for us to being usable on grass is the Viper 70mm and Viper 90mm.

    • @toddflyer
      @toddflyer Год назад

      @@TwoBrosRC Ok. I thank you for the advice. I agree. Grass is terrible for many EDF jets.

  • @andidevgann7014
    @andidevgann7014 Год назад

    What type of transmitter and receiver are you using, may I know

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад

      Spektrum IX20SE on an AR637T receiver.

  • @JMTerry1984
    @JMTerry1984 11 месяцев назад

    I’ve just killed my Habu SS, looking to replace with a model that has flaps, landing gear etc. rather than replace like for like. Would you recommend this over an Avanti or Futura ?

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  11 месяцев назад +1

      Absolutely would given its price point and ease of flight, plus the bonus of training you to fly bigger jets.

    • @JMTerry1984
      @JMTerry1984 11 месяцев назад

      @@TwoBrosRC thanks - really appreciate your expert view. Absolutely love the channel. Keep up the great work.

  • @kianwong4625
    @kianwong4625 5 месяцев назад

    Hi John -is it’s easier/better to run tyhis off a reflex gyro or a programmable spektrum ar630 as3x reciever combo? The reflex gyro needs an 8 channel reciever.? But with the ar630 i can forward program the gyro on virtual channel > is this correct. ? Cheers - i dream of flying like you !±

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  5 месяцев назад

      We'd recommend an AR631 since it has a lot of wiring and you'll want to position the antenna away from it. This jet doesn't come with Reflex, if memory serves.

    • @kianwong4625
      @kianwong4625 5 месяцев назад

      Hi John -wow you are so quick to reply. So if the AR631 has 6 channels( and all the controls are used up ), how is the gyro connected to reciever and hence the transmitter? Does it appear on the TX under forward programming as an aux channel? Thanks so much for your help.@@TwoBrosRC

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  5 месяцев назад

      @kianwong4625 the gyro is programmed from Forward Programming in the radio. You can give it nonphysical servo channels.

    • @kianwong4625
      @kianwong4625 5 месяцев назад

      Thanks john ..i thought so -you are very kind @@TwoBrosRC

  • @EngineNoise305
    @EngineNoise305 8 месяцев назад

    how does this compare to the 80mm Futura ? are they pretty much the same since their both sport jets?

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  8 месяцев назад +1

      They're not even remotely the same. Join us on Discord via bit.ly/TBRCDiscord and we can go over it with you.

    • @EngineNoise305
      @EngineNoise305 8 месяцев назад

      @@TwoBrosRC ok thanks

  • @flanker-zy18
    @flanker-zy18 Год назад

    Very detailed explanations! In your opinion, is the 70mm f16 more forgiving to fly for a beginner?

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад +1

      It definitely is, but it won't teach you how to avoid stalls. This is why it's not our go-to recommendation if someone is interested in building necessary skills in the hobby.

    • @flanker-zy18
      @flanker-zy18 Год назад

      @Two Brothers Radio Control ok 😊!

  • @AbbyRCToys
    @AbbyRCToys 6 месяцев назад

    Can I use this to start as my first ever RC plane with no experience at all as beginner
    I would like to start from RC jets

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  6 месяцев назад

      This would make a good second jet. Join us on Discord and look for the #recommended-aircraft channel - there's links to the E-flite Habu for beginners in it.

  • @williamhammond3998
    @williamhammond3998 Год назад

    Where can I find your AS3X settings for the 70mm hornet?

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад

      In the comments for the 70mm Hornet vid.

  • @lw216316
    @lw216316 Месяц назад

    Will the fms 70mm viper fly safely on a 4s battery?
    Yes, I know the 6s is recommended and yes I know the performance will be less,
    but will it fly safely on a 4s? I don't want to experiment to find out and then have it crash
    because it does not have enough power to stay in the air.

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Месяц назад

      Definitely wouldn't recommend it. No idea if it's safe or not, but you'd be missing out on a ton of thrust. Get 6 cell packs if you're planning to fly a 6 cell jet - flying it on underpowered thrust is far more likely to cause a crash.

    • @lw216316
      @lw216316 Месяц назад

      @@TwoBrosRC I hear ya bro but the plane is not for me. I'm an rc instructor. The plane was given to me as a donation for a 15 year old student I am training. He has some 4 cell batteries already but honestly can not afford 6 cell batteries. So I was hoping maybe the plane could run ok on 4 cell for his benefit. Since it is his first jet he would not miss the extra performance of the 6 cell. I had a Motion Rc Rebel 2 70mm that ran on 4 cell. This Viper weighs almost twice as much so I guess a 4 cell would not work. I'll probably give the kid one of my 6 cells.

  • @BoudreauxBoysRc
    @BoudreauxBoysRc 5 месяцев назад

    Hey brother what camera do you guys use trying to get some better videos then a gopro on my helmet

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  5 месяцев назад

      This is our camera: amzn.to/3OTWSoF

    • @BoudreauxBoysRc
      @BoudreauxBoysRc 5 месяцев назад

      Thanks Jon I just bought the panasonic version of this essentially not as expensive tho .I really wanted to get the Sony but it's so pricey hoping the panasonic does well for me if not I might return it and add the extra cash your videos come out pretty good figured it was a sony ax53 but figured I'd ask just incase

  • @Rombo-86
    @Rombo-86 5 дней назад

    I hope you can do a review on the fms viper 90mm sometime. I’m really curious about that plane. Btw I didn’t know you was half Swedish? I’m from Sweden 😊

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  4 дня назад

      The FMS Viper is basically identical to the E-flite Viper - the only difference is that it would cost nearly $800 to get it here in the US, hence why it's very unlikely that we'll ever show it.
      Jon's family is Swedish, or at least his father's side is. That's where the 194cm height comes from!

    • @Rombo-86
      @Rombo-86 4 дня назад +1

      @@TwoBrosRC ok i understand. 😮 I can order from Ali for like $650 here to Sweden.
      Nice! You know one funny thing? I’m 194cm too 😂🙈 and I have relatives in USA. 🤔 do you have a crocked little finger? 🙈

  • @ArthurRC
    @ArthurRC Год назад

    Nice tuto bro 🎉😊 there isn’t any reverse on that new FMS jet ? 😩

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад +1

      No thrust reverse unfortunately.

    • @ArthurRC
      @ArthurRC Год назад

      @@TwoBrosRC 😢

  • @ToyManFlyer1100
    @ToyManFlyer1100 Год назад +1

    Have a old DX-9 radio...Gonna send it in to get looked at by Horizon Services...But, will my DX-9 fly this jet, or will need a new Transmitter???...

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад +1

      This jet only requires 6 channels. Your 9ch will run it fine!

    • @ToyManFlyer1100
      @ToyManFlyer1100 Год назад +1

      @@TwoBrosRC ...Great..and Thanks for the reply..😊😊😊

  • @davidgerlach1132
    @davidgerlach1132 Год назад

    As good or "different" than its E-flight counterpart w/Avanti 70mm gear set upgrade?

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад +1

      The E-flite version uses a less powerful motor, but it's still a solid jet with good performance. The Avanti gear upgrade is similar but requires something like $80 minimum plus shipping - this is a better deal at the moment. If HH releases another version of the Viper, we wouldn't be surprised if it's similarly priced to this Viper.

    • @davidgerlach1132
      @davidgerlach1132 Год назад

      @@TwoBrosRC Very good. And as always, thank you very much for the educational and detailed RC plane videos. I think after all's said and done, I'm going to get the mighty E-flight Viper 90mm and call it a day in my search for "my" ultimate sport jet.

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад

      @@davidgerlach1132 Sounds good! If you'd like to support us, you can pick up the Viper 90 via bit.ly/3JGRS30 at no additional charge!

    • @davidgerlach1132
      @davidgerlach1132 Год назад

      @@TwoBrosRC Nice! And I'm a Spectrum guy so I like the AR637TA as it's a big step up from the AR631, it's on the list. I'm throwing this out in left field. As for a "prop jet" I'm also very intrigued with the crazy fast E-flight V-1200 1.2m for the pure adrenaline rush. 🙂

  • @bgblindt
    @bgblindt Год назад

    Great review, what is the best EDF for newer pilot?

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад +1

      This one is always our pick for a new pilot wanting to learn jets.

    • @bgblindt
      @bgblindt Год назад

      What receiver do you use my radio is ix14? Want most out of this if I get it!

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад +1

      @RC/Lego Guy We're using an AR637T via bit.ly/3dCjiuO - which is a solid choice for this model. You could use an AR8360T but the only advantage to it would be running a trimmable nose wheel. There's no special configuration for this model that we're aware of that's worth the effort.

    • @bgblindt
      @bgblindt Год назад

      Oh one last thing would you recommend this plane over the Elite viper 70mm?

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад +1

      @@bgblindt Currently yes, because it's in stock and has some nice upgrades. If HH comes out with a new version of it, we'd suggest going for that if you prefer the E-flite trim scheme and BnF setup. If you want this one in the interim, the purchase link to support us is bit.ly/Viper70V2 - regardless of what way you go, this model is fun and we hope you'll enjoy it!

  • @gabcwabc2491
    @gabcwabc2491 Год назад

    I like videos which are NOT the maiden flight; after one knows the plane.

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад +1

      Yeah, we're with you on that. We do include some maiden footage in the end, usually, like the bouncing aspect of the model that comes with too much flap scheduling. Otherwise, we show how it flies rather than what it would be like if we'd never flown it before.

  • @dalekelley3003
    @dalekelley3003 Год назад +1

    You flew the 70mm Blue Angels FMS Viper a few months ago, How would you compare the two. Thanks Jon. I would say you talk too much nit, it's all PACKED with solid information. Keep up the great reviews. Wish someone woul6co.e out with a good Twin Boom Bobcat again, would love to see you fly and review it. ✌️

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад +1

      They're very similar and use the same power system. The V1 stalls easier, though, and is definitely more difficult to fly and land.

    • @FlightLogProductions
      @FlightLogProductions Год назад +1

      The “Blue Angels” esq Viper 70mm is v2 also.. the only difference between the “Standard” V2 Viper 70mm and this 15 year anniversary edition is the paint scheme, Landing gear (this is the huge deal) and the front landing gear cover (moulded differently to allow the new gear).
      The “standard” Blue Angel esq colored version should not be confused with the “original” Viper 70mm.

  • @DNowlan1
    @DNowlan1 8 месяцев назад

    To the two brothers and all the other guys tuning here. If you are getting started in jets and edf, is the FMS Viper 70mm v2 the weapon of choice? I look forward to everyone's input.

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  8 месяцев назад +2

      It depends on what you're trying to do. If you want a jet that teaches you to fly bigger and better jets, like a true trainer, the Viper is one of the best choices.

    • @DNowlan1
      @DNowlan1 8 месяцев назад

      @@TwoBrosRC Thank you sir - appreciated

  • @stainjah
    @stainjah Год назад

    Only thing holding me a bit back now from buing one is I wonder how the spare part avalability on this specific anniversary model will be.

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад

      FMS usually does decently well keeping spare parts stocked. Though you'll be hard pressed to really need them, this plane isn't hard to fly at all. It even handled the severe winds we were flying in with ease, surprisingly.

    • @stainjah
      @stainjah Год назад

      @@TwoBrosRC i dont have too much experience. Only the turbo timber evo and habu sts on 4s. So i hope i can handle it. The upgraded gear is nice since i will be flying off gras

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад

      You'll be OK - just don't be afraid to toss it into SAFE if you have a Spektrum setup, and follow the tips we mentioned regarding stalls and landing. It's easy to repair, so don't beat yourself up if something goes wrong. Mistakes are part of the process and how we learn. Feel free to ask for help too! We'll do what we can to help out.

    • @stainjah
      @stainjah Год назад

      @@TwoBrosRC i do have spektrum so yeah i think ill be fine.
      Thanks!

  • @user-vh7tn8bv8g
    @user-vh7tn8bv8g Год назад

    Love to pick one up but they stay sold out😢

  • @ToyManFlyer1100
    @ToyManFlyer1100 Год назад +1

    😂😂😂😂....Barrel Roll on take off....Show-off..!!!😂😂😂

  • @jeffarab4947
    @jeffarab4947 Год назад

    Vipers dont need any gyros really it's a simple jet but great man

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад

      We didn't say it needed one. We said we're using one.

  • @guilhermegarcia4338
    @guilhermegarcia4338 7 месяцев назад

    How much mm has the wingspan ??

  • @user-yg4jr5zx3x
    @user-yg4jr5zx3x Год назад

    Say, what’s the difference between the E-flight Viper 70mm and the FMS Viper 70mm v2? Other than the landing gear of course! :)

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад

      The landing gear changed from chicken wire to suspension struts, and it received a new paint job. We're also pretty confident that it has reduced stall susceptibility too - not by much, but just enough to be noticeable for us since we've flown four different Viper 70s by this point.

  • @DownNDirtyRc
    @DownNDirtyRc Год назад

    I need to come up there...do you do lessons?😂 Im down in wilmy

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад

      That's a bit of a trip, innit? But we could definitely help you out if you're in the area at some point.

    • @DownNDirtyRc
      @DownNDirtyRc Год назад

      It's only like 2 hours lol I go up to tower 19. That's where my ultimate came from

    • @DownNDirtyRc
      @DownNDirtyRc Год назад

      I mean hangar 18 lol

  • @stainjah
    @stainjah Год назад

    I want this sooo bad. But fms dont ship to Norway :/ is there a way to get it for me?

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад

      That's a good question - you'd probably have to try ordering from FairRC.

    • @stainjah
      @stainjah Год назад

      ​@@TwoBrosRC nope checked there also.

    • @helmuthuneke1775
      @helmuthuneke1775 4 месяца назад

      AliExpress from China

  • @ILAYARAJAraja
    @ILAYARAJAraja 10 месяцев назад

    Share the Buying link...

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  10 месяцев назад +1

      It's in the description.

  • @velocistafpv
    @velocistafpv Год назад

    I need more space in my house. 😅

  • @JohnVHRC
    @JohnVHRC Год назад

    What was the battery levels after the flights??

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад

      Storage voltage. 3.8ish.

  • @altselgreen9115
    @altselgreen9115 Год назад

    Angle of attack is what it’s all about

  • @Papa_Shorty
    @Papa_Shorty Год назад

    Seems a little more advanced than I’d want to start with. Probably should start with something simpler.

  • @2whl4re
    @2whl4re Год назад

    Your comments on accelerated stalls are useful, but not entirely correct.
    An airplane can stall at any airspeed, any attitude. Stall is a function of angle of attack, not airspeed. The wing load factor has a huge impact on stall speed, which is why a stall in a turn or with abrupt control movements (higher load factor) is more likely. At 60 degrees of bank, the load factor increases by 40 percent (and along with it, stall speed). A stall at greater than 1g load is an accelerated stall.
    Great channel, just found it and enjoying your reviews!

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад

      Thanks! We're pretty sure that we covered most of this info in the vid though.

  • @f900ex5
    @f900ex5 Год назад

    Great video, but the background music is not needed.

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад

      While we appreciate the compliment, please don't tell us how to run our channel. The music we use is a stylistic choice that our viewers have come to expect over the years. We're sorry that you don't enjoy it, but it's deliberately chosen for the style of video we shoot and we have no plans to change it.

  • @richarddorsch7275
    @richarddorsch7275 Год назад

    Very nice plane and instructional video but I see you even you as a skilled pilot have some stable flying and landing issues so I don't see this plane as a beginner jet.

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад

      It's a pretty windy day. Watch our recent landing tutorial and you'll see easy it is.

  • @tx-zeh4108
    @tx-zeh4108 8 месяцев назад

    I belive beginner planes should be cheaper. If you are a beginner, no way you spend 500 dollars on a plane

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  8 месяцев назад

      This jet isn't $500.

  • @madsimoninsky
    @madsimoninsky Год назад

    nearly any jet with a gyro is a learner jet

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад

      Be sure to tell that to modern fighter pilots.

    • @madsimoninsky
      @madsimoninsky Год назад +1

      @@TwoBrosRC i love the channel but i do believe .if your using a gyro your not truly in control ,and the best way to advance is to fly gyroless , slope soaring teaches the best to read aircraft control. this only refers to rc planes not real one that fly into trees at air shows and crash

  • @maybejoshh1907
    @maybejoshh1907 Год назад

    there is clearly a vague understanding of the word "inexpensive" here

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад

      $299 for a 70mm jet is inexpensive. There may be a vague understanding on your part of what RC aviation costs.

  • @tomg6284
    @tomg6284 9 месяцев назад

    To fast.

  • @yellowcolorado25
    @yellowcolorado25 Год назад

    You're too intense man. Calm down and enjoy the flight.

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад

      This is the weirdest critique we've ever gotten. Thanks?

  • @stfuliberal
    @stfuliberal 4 месяца назад

    Would the Habu be in the same class for learning my first jet? Thanks man.

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  4 месяца назад

      The Habu is more of a training wheels jet. Much easier to fly, but doesn't really teach how jets truly operate. For more, join us on Discord and we can explain more clearly bit.ly/TBRCDiscord