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Thanks for sharing your experience in a beautiful video. As an ultralight pilot I have experienced many stalls on our P92: it usually stalls around 80km/h. In a turn around 20/25 degrees the stall occurred at 115km/h. The only way to avoid the stall in a turn is to have a lot of speed - a lot of engine - and make a coordinated turn with the rudder (to avoid adverse yaw.) I configure the landing of the Viper 80: reduction of speed in downwind, half flaps, landing gear down and on final with the throttle stick at 40%, then before touching the throttle stick at around 30%, obviously the elevator must be pulled back progressively. Greetings from Italy.
Ill say this, the whole dont land without throttle thing was made by people who never flew a Habu lol. That sucker floats so long that if im about 2 mistakes high i can cut my throttle entirely and glide in from about halfway through the pattern. Some planes like it more than others, but its more the pilot than the airframe. Thank you for making these videos i’ve learned quite a bit from them since i started flying again.
Love your channel, I am one of the guys that bought an edf as a first plane lol. I learned pretty quick, luckily the airframe has held up… now am ripping rolls and loops. Thanks for your hand launching advice
We recently upgraded our sound library to an actual music library which gives us a massive amount of content to work with that fits the atmosphere better. The old stuff we used was cool, too, but this is a bit more tailored to our style. Thanks!
Great instructional video Jon. No one should ever stop trying learn, because there's always something you may not know. Haha, the trick would be to never forget it. AirHammer out!!
I don't like landing on SAFE mode, but, it has saved me from bad stalls before. Except for that one time I didn't react to hit the switch and corkscrewed the Viper 70 into a lake 😅
My landing tips. Control direction the plane's with rudder, keep wings level with ailerons, proper pitch and airspeed with elevator and decent with throttle. It's a lot to manage at first but with practice it's doable ... most of the time. When I was first starting out I would make approaches and change only one of those variables at a time for a mock landing attempt and see how a plane would react.
I like these segments, even though I have been flying for years I always appreciate hearing from other RC Pilots about all aspects of RC Flying. I always pick up good tips from you, Model AV8R, and Tailheavy, hell I even enjoy watching Bryan Philips (spelling) long set-up videos. Thanks again 🤙🏼
@@TwoBrosRC You are very welcome, all of y'all have helped my Daughter, Girlfriend and myself become better at flying and I appreciate each and everyone of y'all.
Thank you for all of your tips, setups and tricks. Flying jets is a love/hate relationship for me. Just when I think I finally get the hang of landing them, I’ll either stall or bounce the viper 90/70. Very frustrating. I also have the F-16 80mm and I only flew it around 7 times because I’m terrified of it. Haha. I’m going to get an 8 channel receiver so I can do your setup and get the most out of it. Thanks again for all your videos. Cheers.
All of my Viper 90 crashes have been caused by a bounce. The plane tends to bounce even if I landed smoothly, sometimes due the battery being too far forward, others from bumps in the runway. Are you saying a lower air speed helps with the bounce?
I have practiced and practiced landing jets on RealFlight. That said, all my 64mm jets bounce a little, but my 6S 70mm Yak-130 has shocks, so it just greases the runway.
i watched an earlier video you did with using cro for landing. doesnt this make it exponentially easier to land? i noticed you did not mention anything about that in this video but it seems thats the primary way you were landing in this video.
You flying this with a gyro makes it fly like this not you. I use gyro's myself but you go the road of know it all while letting the electronic really fix it.
Good advice but as all advice application is the evidence of learning what is taught. No matter how good the pilot is we are all subject to wind/ turbulence. Look forward to your next landing lesson on heavy jets.
Amazing video. Precise, detailed, educational, and full of personal experience that only comes from someone who has done this a lot and has learned from their own mistakes. Thank you!
Every plane, every landing is different as every condition is ever changing. Hit all your marks in pattern and you are good. I would t recommend power off landings, it really doesn’t transfer to turbine A/C. Heavier, etc. how many times does a scale plane or airliner do a power off approach.
This is the Best instructional video on how not to turn an EDF foamy into a pile of trash I've ever watched- big fan of twobros but this takes the cake - been rc flying for 30 years and still have a lot to learn.TY!
Happy to help, Jeff! We're trying to improve our video quality by focusing on shorter vids with voiceover instead of the "talk into a camera, live" approach that used to dominate the RC videos on YT.
Hey thank your for this . I also wanted to thank you for your advice on on the Gain settings for an eflite rare bear . It actually worked better (less oscillation ) than than the default setup . Much appreciated for sharing these settings . 😃👍
This video covers crow (butterfly) landings and normal flap landings: ruclips.net/video/G-8FXntqv84/видео.html We personally recommend the crow setup for turbulent landings, but not all aircraft make it easy to set up, nor do all modelers have the budget for a radio/receiver combination to do it.
@TwoBrosRC During landing you often get sudden gusts of wind that can catch you out sending a wing into the ground. Safe has faster reactions than you have and could save a crash
It'll crash if you're not keeping your airspeed up in SAFE, too. Fly it that way if you'd prefer, but it opens up significant potential of stalling that we'd rather avoid.
@@TwoBrosRC The thing that worries me more is that sudden gust of wind at the last minute before touch down that can catch you out. The wing goes up then hits the ground.
Something I've noticed at my field is that a lot of people are scared to get too low and end up diving into their landings. While technically this can work (and I have landed planes from a vertical dive) it tends to leave them struggling to bleed off the extra speed and prevent their plane from ballooning back up into the air. My preferred approach is to get as low as I can with the goal of crossing the front edge of the runway a foot or less above the ground so I can cut the throttle and let the plane drop back onto its mains in about ten to twenty feet. I practiced this approach with an overweight Freewing F-8 more times than I can count and it's really helped my landings. Optimal speed for this depends a lot on the plane's stall speed unless you can harrier the plane for long distances.
It all depends on the jet and how you want to approach with it. Dive approaches can work if you've set the plane up for maximum drag. Your approach works if you're looking for precision and scale appearance while landing.
@@1212354a Do you have the stock 3S fan in yours still? I've found that my 3S F-8 is very floaty, but the 4S upgrade makes it fly like a rock. I always needed a substantial amount of power in order to land my 4S F-8 smoothly.
@@TwoBrosRC I think the biggest benefit for me of landing low and long has been the amount of power I can carry through the turn to final. I can keep plenty of airspeed through the turn by keeping the fan at 25-50% power and by the time I reach the runway my flaps have bled off enough energy that the plane just settles onto the ground as soon as I turn the fan off. I really make use of the entire length of my airfield though because the extra energy takes a while to bleed off fully.
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Thanks for sharing your experience in a beautiful video. As an ultralight pilot I have experienced many stalls on our P92: it usually stalls around 80km/h. In a turn around 20/25 degrees the stall occurred at 115km/h. The only way to avoid the stall in a turn is to have a lot of speed - a lot of engine - and make a coordinated turn with the rudder (to avoid adverse yaw.) I configure the landing of the Viper 80: reduction of speed in downwind, half flaps, landing gear down and on final with the throttle stick at 40%, then before touching the throttle stick at around 30%, obviously the elevator must be pulled back progressively. Greetings from Italy.
Thanks great learning video!!
Ill say this, the whole dont land without throttle thing was made by people who never flew a Habu lol. That sucker floats so long that if im about 2 mistakes high i can cut my throttle entirely and glide in from about halfway through the pattern. Some planes like it more than others, but its more the pilot than the airframe. Thank you for making these videos i’ve learned quite a bit from them since i started flying again.
Love your channel, I am one of the guys that bought an edf as a first plane lol. I learned pretty quick, luckily the airframe has held up…
now am ripping rolls and loops. Thanks for your hand launching advice
Happy to help!
I'm diggin' the music in this one. The feeling of a smooth sexy landing will always keep me trying to improve!
We recently upgraded our sound library to an actual music library which gives us a massive amount of content to work with that fits the atmosphere better. The old stuff we used was cool, too, but this is a bit more tailored to our style. Thanks!
Great instructional video Jon. No one should ever stop trying learn, because there's always something you may not know. Haha, the trick would be to never forget it. AirHammer out!!
I don't like landing on SAFE mode, but, it has saved me from bad stalls before. Except for that one time I didn't react to hit the switch and corkscrewed the Viper 70 into a lake 😅
My landing tips. Control direction the plane's with rudder, keep wings level with ailerons, proper pitch and airspeed with elevator and decent with throttle. It's a lot to manage at first but with practice it's doable ... most of the time. When I was first starting out I would make approaches and change only one of those variables at a time for a mock landing attempt and see how a plane would react.
Love these series!!! Can't wait!
😂 hey Jon, thanks for sharing my Bad landing.
Hope it didn't come off as a dig on ya! We made sure to credit you and offer some helpful advice. :)
@@TwoBrosRC not at all. All fun in the name of r.c 🫡
Why did I watch this video! Now I want to go fly my viper, and I can’t because of the weather! 😢 😂😂
I like these segments, even though I have been flying for years I always appreciate hearing from other RC Pilots about all aspects of RC Flying. I always pick up good tips from you, Model AV8R, and Tailheavy, hell I even enjoy watching Bryan Philips (spelling) long set-up videos.
Thanks again 🤙🏼
Happy to help, and honored to be listed among the greats!
@@TwoBrosRC You are very welcome, all of y'all have helped my Daughter, Girlfriend and myself become better at flying and I appreciate each and everyone of y'all.
Thank you for all of your tips, setups and tricks. Flying jets is a love/hate relationship for me. Just when I think I finally get the hang of landing them, I’ll either stall or bounce the viper 90/70. Very frustrating. I also have the F-16 80mm and I only flew it around 7 times because I’m terrified of it. Haha. I’m going to get an 8 channel receiver so I can do your setup and get the most out of it. Thanks again for all your videos. Cheers.
Happy to help!
All of my Viper 90 crashes have been caused by a bounce. The plane tends to bounce even if I landed smoothly, sometimes due the battery being too far forward, others from bumps in the runway.
Are you saying a lower air speed helps with the bounce?
Lower touchdown speed reduces the chances of bouncing. Bouncing usually happens because the aircraft is still flying while the wheels are rolling.
I have practiced and practiced landing jets on RealFlight. That said, all my 64mm jets bounce a little, but my 6S 70mm Yak-130 has shocks, so it just greases the runway.
i watched an earlier video you did with using cro for landing. doesnt this make it exponentially easier to land? i noticed you did not mention anything about that in this video but it seems thats the primary way you were landing in this video.
That only tends to work with larger jets or ones with bigger control surfaces than the Viper 70, unfortunately.
You flying this with a gyro makes it fly like this not you. I use gyro's myself but you go the road of know it all while letting the electronic really fix it.
ruclips.net/video/1NJWIj5zQNs/видео.html
What flap settings do you use for the FMS Viper?
Just minimal settings, as little as possible to be frank. The more flap used on that jet, the more it bounces on landing.
Lets kick things off in the comments. Landing flaps on downwind or nah 😅
Landing flaps whenever. Upwind, downwind, crosswind, all wind.
Good video!
Good video!
Thanks for another great and informative tutorial 🙏🏻
Skill issue
Great landing lesson. Thanks!
Glad you liked it!
Thanks, great tutorial!
5:50 absolutely LOVE that quote 😎
Good advice but as all advice application is the evidence of learning what is taught. No matter how good the pilot is we are all subject to wind/ turbulence. Look forward to your next landing lesson on heavy jets.
Hence the short guide on wind and turbulence toward the end. :)
Amazing video. Precise, detailed, educational, and full of personal experience that only comes from someone who has done this a lot and has learned from their own mistakes. Thank you!
Happy to help!
Every plane, every landing is different as every condition is ever changing. Hit all your marks in pattern and you are good. I would t recommend power off landings, it really doesn’t transfer to turbine A/C. Heavier, etc. how many times does a scale plane or airliner do a power off approach.
Turbines are another story entirely - we're definitely not covering those here.
This is the Best instructional video on how not to turn an EDF foamy into a pile of trash I've ever watched- big fan of twobros but this takes the cake - been rc flying for 30 years and still have a lot to learn.TY!
Happy to help, Jeff! We're trying to improve our video quality by focusing on shorter vids with voiceover instead of the "talk into a camera, live" approach that used to dominate the RC videos on YT.
Hey thank your for this . I also wanted to thank you for your advice on on the Gain settings for an eflite rare bear . It actually worked better (less oscillation ) than than the default setup . Much appreciated for sharing these settings . 😃👍
Glad it helped!
Very well explained. I’ve heard some of these things mentioned but never well explained on how to implement them.
Glad it was helpful!
What a great video does this technique good for tail draggers war bird type planes?
Taildraggers require a more specialized landing and takeoff approach which we've covered before: ruclips.net/video/G2ydOzYck-A/видео.html
outstanding
Great video. Would love your comment on using negative ailerons in butterfly configuration for landing.
This video covers crow (butterfly) landings and normal flap landings: ruclips.net/video/G-8FXntqv84/видео.html
We personally recommend the crow setup for turbulent landings, but not all aircraft make it easy to set up, nor do all modelers have the budget for a radio/receiver combination to do it.
@@TwoBrosRC Great! Thank you. Made me realize I had watched that video already when you posted it, but it was wonderful to go and watch it again.
Land in SAFE mode should help.
Not really. It will exacerbate any stalls due to automatically holding elevator input.
@TwoBrosRC During landing you often get sudden gusts of wind that can catch you out sending a wing into the ground.
Safe has faster reactions than you have and could save a crash
It'll crash if you're not keeping your airspeed up in SAFE, too. Fly it that way if you'd prefer, but it opens up significant potential of stalling that we'd rather avoid.
@@TwoBrosRC The thing that worries me more is that sudden gust of wind at the last minute before touch down that can catch you out. The wing goes up then hits the ground.
Something I've noticed at my field is that a lot of people are scared to get too low and end up diving into their landings. While technically this can work (and I have landed planes from a vertical dive) it tends to leave them struggling to bleed off the extra speed and prevent their plane from ballooning back up into the air.
My preferred approach is to get as low as I can with the goal of crossing the front edge of the runway a foot or less above the ground so I can cut the throttle and let the plane drop back onto its mains in about ten to twenty feet. I practiced this approach with an overweight Freewing F-8 more times than I can count and it's really helped my landings. Optimal speed for this depends a lot on the plane's stall speed unless you can harrier the plane for long distances.
It all depends on the jet and how you want to approach with it. Dive approaches can work if you've set the plane up for maximum drag. Your approach works if you're looking for precision and scale appearance while landing.
I like to get my F-8 low and just kill the throttle. It glides right onto the mains.
@@1212354a Do you have the stock 3S fan in yours still? I've found that my 3S F-8 is very floaty, but the 4S upgrade makes it fly like a rock. I always needed a substantial amount of power in order to land my 4S F-8 smoothly.
@@TwoBrosRC I think the biggest benefit for me of landing low and long has been the amount of power I can carry through the turn to final. I can keep plenty of airspeed through the turn by keeping the fan at 25-50% power and by the time I reach the runway my flaps have bled off enough energy that the plane just settles onto the ground as soon as I turn the fan off. I really make use of the entire length of my airfield though because the extra energy takes a while to bleed off fully.
Bah, 77 minutes wait time!? I wanna watch nowwww 😅
More like 12 hours! Sorry about the mixup.
@@TwoBrosRC no problem, thanks for the awesome content!
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