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- Опубликовано: 12 ноя 2022
- 2023 VW Golf R MK8 DCT, living with the new MK8 Golf R for a week brought out some things I like and things I do not like.
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Of course this video was filmed awhile back. Now I got an M3 🎉
You definitely picked the right car.
FYI..it's not faster than a Stinger GT .
@@onionknight5142 what isn’t?
Way better decision bro lol. Bimmer is on a different level.
The M3 is only marginally better/quicker, and retail price and running costs are much much higher. Bottom line, the Golf R is a better deal overall
People always say:" Who's gonna buy a $54000 CAD golf." Well, I did, picked up my 2024 R DCT for my daily, just loving it so much, insane power, fun modes to play, it handles lika dream. For people don't know about golf r, they will never understand how fun it is, this car is worth the price for sure, why? Cuz people buying the R, they are looking for the long term ownership, such a sleeper ride, just loving it. You see all kinds of compact turbo cars on the road, but you don't see golf R that often which makes the R unique. My insurance is super cheap as well, great gas consumption as I drive sport and race all day long, no problem at all. NO regrets, true car guy ride.
damn bruh stop hyping me up i might just get it... how's the awd handle in icy conditions ?
The front brakes are two pistons.
My 2023 USA spec R has dual front calipers, the front is very different from GTI (compare them side by side), putting it in any of the race modes opens up the exhaust, it has launch control and can drive and park itself. Pretty good for a $48,000.00 car!! PLUS, when I compare it to my E46 M3 with a manual 6SP, I am very happy to have chosen the DSG transmission since the R is my daily driver. All the complaints about the touch screen and haptic controls are from people who have no spent much time behind the seat. VW did change the steering wheel for recent deliveries (still haptic, just improved) and there are short cuts to navigating the infotainment system you learn with use. For one thing the heated or cooled seats come on and off automatically as does the heated steering wheel. You can program when and at what level (L, M, H) so really no need to mess with the controls once you have your preferred temps dialed in. Then turning any of them off is just one touch. The owners manual is huge and detailed (unfortunately not country specific) I'm about 3/4 through it and learning more and more of this amazing cars ability each day. She is rocket that tracks as if on rails!!
The golf r does 0-60 in 3.9-4.1s with the dsg. It has awd and rides well. For 44k nothing comes close
None anywhere are going for 45-47k$ only if you get luck from a dealership that’s not making up
I got a call from my dealership for a brand new golf r at MSRP, DCT in blue , and even so I'm not sure to take it, MSRP now is near 54k cad
@@viktoriya260589over 60k with taxes
Brakes are amazing for the car's weight. 357mm is massive for a hatchback AND it is dual piston. It's also not like you will track the car either. Even the gti's brakes barely fade on track. Also find it amusing you almost never talk about the way cars handle. It's always about the power and engine. For me, the way a car handles is just as important.
I’ve had my MK8 GTI for a few months now and the brakes are phenomenal
This channel isn’t for true car enthusiasts
This is why I have a hard time watching his channel, yet here I am still
Agree these brakes is perfect, 2 PISTON! ;). And i have done a lot of trackdays with ZERO isues :)
@@swype.media-9309 lol me too, I want to like it because they have some decent cars on here and sometimes they get some good runs in, but for the most part it isn’t it. Though I do wish the best for Sam, he’s still enthusiastic about it and enjoying himself. Glad he’s gotten this far, I remember when he was just starting off
Probably one of the best reviews I have seen. I agree with everything you said and I had it for about 10 months. Use it in harsh Iowa winters as a daily with kids and works fantastic
Thank you!
@@SamCarLegion No problem. Little tip if you tap the cold and hot controls at the same time the heated seats come ON
I used to own a 2019 Golf R. I just rolled down the driver-side window when I drove it. Sounded great.
it crazy to think this mk8 is still being compared to the 2016 focus Rs. I daily’d the focus RS for 4+ extremely fun years, im curious how this will match up.
Just checked VW Canada, front brakes are 2-piston for 2023. They add like 2k to MSRP for the '23 and I was always wondering what changed from '22. Not sure about the '22 but maybe thats what.
@Sam
If I may, I wanna correct you on a few things in your dislike section. This goes for anyone else who may be watching this.
The car is arguably even more distinguishable from a GTI from the front than the rear. The little sections that “wrap” in the bottom corners aren’t on the GTI at all and the grille is honeycomb patterned on the GTI. The entire “mouth” is different.
The car does have front 2 piston brakes. Not only that, but they’re actually really good. I don’t know if the one you drove is abused or faulty or what but I and many others have tracked these things already. There’s almost no fade and they perform very well. They even only ever so slightly lost the brake test to cars like the CTR which weigh much less and are more track focused.
The heated seats actually can be activated by just tapping the hot and cold sections, under the infotainment, simultaneously. No need to interact with the screen really at all. Just a double press and bam, they’re on. There’s many short cuts in the car.
I don’t know if you said this, I rewinded it like 5 times but, it sounded like you said the car didn’t have heated REAR seats. Which is false, it does. The controls for it are right under the vent in the rear.
Agreed, this RUclipsr makes a living doing car videos, and it is obvious he is talking out of his two butt cheeks.
He also mentioned the brakes were terrible, when Savagegeese stated they are better than Type R or GR.
About the similarities, have you ever compared different trim Mustangs or Chargers, Hellcats etc.?
I've got a 2023 Golf R.. It's not perfect, but I do think it comes awfully close to the perfect car for me and my budget. That's why I bought one and waited many, many, months to buy one. I wanted something quick, practical, fun to drive, non-FWD, daily-able, and most importantly to me manual.
I'm not quite sure what Sam is complaining about here..
1) The front end has the blue bar, R badge AND the Golf GTI has that honeycomb grill pattern! Look at a picture of the two side by side the grills are pretty different! Those are plenty different enough for me (esp since we're just talking about the front!). I'm not sure how much more different it needs to be.. what more could you want? scoops? and fake grills? bleh.
2) The brakes are good! Like everyone else has pointed out they are 2 piston in the front. I think the one Sam drove might have needed a brake service. It looks like it might be a press car (manufacturer plates) so I assume it's been tracked and run really hard and now probably needs a brake fliud flush.
3) Infotainment. If you use one every day you get used to it. I personally think complaining about something **IF** it breaks is highly speculative. I also personally speculate that part of the reason for VW went haptic in part for the reliability, no moving parts means less to fail but only time will tell.
4) The exhaust is good. In comfort and sport, it is very quiet and tame and in all versions of race it makes enough noise (esp. the pops and bangs) that I don't drive in residential areas with it in Race because I don't want to be THAT guy. I prefer subtlety but if it were any louder I would personally hate it on the highway and probably be looking to make it quieter. I've seen other reviewers complain about the same thing and it's BS, they are complaining because they've got nothing else to complain about. For a stock exhaust on a car that is still expected to be a daily driver, I think it would be dumb to have a louder exhaust. If you want louder go aftermarket. It's A LOT harder to find a quieter aftermarket exhaust.
5) I don't understand, he complains about the price and then finishes by saying it's not a bad deal. I've got a Lapiz Blue and I love the colour! To me maybe the only colour I could see people wanting that isn't available would be a red (but with the mandatory R blue accents, I think, it would clash with red). Besides if you want another colour, get it wrapped, it'd probably cost less than what they probably would've charged for premium paint choices. The back seat does have heated seats and their own climate control zone! Power handbrake? Is he talking about a proper manual handbrake with a handle? I'm not sure which cars still get one of those in 2022, but there can't be many these days. Don't get brake hold? The car does have hill assist, actually some manual owners have been complaining about it because it's caused them to stall. You can get it for MSRP here in Canada you just have to wait, the current "used" prices are flippers hoping to find somone willing to pay 10K more to not have to wait. I can only assume he's talking to our unfortunate neighbours to the south. it sucks but you can't choose capitalism and then complain when it doesn't work for you.
Careful bro, this guy gets offended when you criticize his errors lol. But thank you for posting this. Only real owners know this car.
I ordered one a bit ago on the east coast and the expected arrival is next year in Dec. Wait time is wild but for MSRP I do believe its one of the best bang for your bucks car right now.
Just picked up my 20th anniversary edition, and I love it!!!
How much you paid?
@@tommest9934 MSRP, I'd been waiting for 22 months.
@@tommest9934 MSRP had a GTI to trade and made money on that trade.
This or the S3?
Some great video effects! I never really noticed the lower front end until you mentioned it. It does look kind of funky and too blacked out. The rear looks great! I really like this in white with the blue accent!. I think it sounds pretty good. It's nice to remain more stealth for some people. I also wonder if these are becoming more available now?
Thanks for the video. How do do you compare The Golf R vs The Stinger/Genesis 3.3 T in terms of performance. Thank you
I did a drag race
Thanks for the reply. I mean in a normal driving situation which one do you personally prefer? Thank you
Is the version with the Akrapovic exhaust not available there?
No, no Akrapovic exhaust option in North America.. but other than that we get a pretty much fully optioned Golf R only options are colour (blue\black\white), transmission(MANUAL\DSG), and sunroof (yes
o).
My wife complained about the gear knob. She’s quite happy it’s gone in our Pilot.
BUY my 2003 GTI VR6! Original owner 'babied' and garaged, only 124K miles and 20 years old, Reflex Silver, 6-speed, upscale black leather interior (very Audi-like), and 'Monsoon' stereo with, get this... a real CD player! Now, I know many of you older folks invested a LOT of moolah on your CD collection, so you'd be able to get more miles out of it! Just kidding! I'll never sell this car!
Beautiful ride but not sure I want to pay for that or new type R. Both right up my price range.
The North American Golf R absolutely does have a 2-piston caliper setup on the front. As per VW Spec on the North American model:
Front: Power assisted, dual circuit, 14.05 in. x 1.34 in. (357 mm x 34 mm) vented front disc with *2-piston floating calipers*
Once they crack the ecu and get the stage one tunes out this thing is gonna be a monster I bet apr stage 1 will be at least 50hp 70 torque
Especially being an awd
The ecu has been cracked these make close to 400whp with a stage 1 tune.
Stage one is giving them 400 to the wheel stage two is planned to give it 450 to the wheel and stage 3 will be over 550
Yep, a year and half maybe more delivery time. Ordered mine in Jan 2022. Been told Q2 or Q3 2023. I'm in the UK.
I love these things and would trade my Veloster n but near me 53 k used isnt 2 bad Can’t find them new. I think I rather pick the 2023 s3.
Should I get this Mk8 R or a used RS3? they're both at 50K
Unless you know who owned the RS3, I do not recommend it. Definitely 99% of them were tuned and u will end up paying thru the nose. Stick to a stock MK8 R
Sam wasn’t the stinger gt faster on all the rolls from previous video ? You mean the golf r has a better dig launch ?
Yes!
Can’t wait for VW to update the infotainment system. Wish VW would also offer a performance brake package…folks will look towards the aftermarket anyway, so why not?🤪🤪
A lots of dealerships in Canada jack up the price to$62000. Sell it as used!
58k+ in the US and dealers are pretty smug about it.
stop buying it... you can get a slightly used s5 for around same price 💀 this car should not be more than 45k
I have a 2023 and hardly use it 🙁
Love itt!!
It is not 47k in Canada it is 56k before tax and fees
here in the US they are adding almost 10k markup!
The fact that it's less aggressive looking is it's biggest appeal. A grown up can drive it without getting gawked at.
The Volkswagen Golf R Is A Must Track Car!!
Best video ever!
I'm gonna be getting out of my 18 GT Sport soon and looking into some options, including this or the Stinger GT2. Biggest issue I have with this, is that the cargo area is still pretty small. Stinger has more, but it's a Sportback and not really able to fit taller items. Neither of them have the full panoramic sunroof like my current car unfortunately, which is a huuuuge bummer to me. But really what I think it comes down to is availability. Stinger GT2s are readily available at msrp or just slightly marked up. The GolfR in my area is like a 10% chance of being in stock once a month and when it is they're marked up to almost $60k USD, it's insane. Idk but either way it'll be either one of these, just not sure which one yet 🤔
Prices will come down
@Sam CarLegion which one would you go for man? I have a 9 year old and him, my girl, and myself + all our shit fit pretty well in the GT Sport, and it has essentially all the same features as these do already, just less power. I'm personally leaning more towards the Stinger but tbh not sure I wanna deal with another KDM cause here in the US the dealers suck. Before I had my GTS I had a 19 Mk7 GLi but the quality on that thing was atrocious tbh
Stinger is done in April of 23.
@weru urme yup. I'll be getting into something else around the beginning of the year so shouldn't be an issue. That, and I don't mind buying KDM CPO at least. When you do that you get the full warranty for 10 years from original purchase date. Thought I was gonna be keeping my GT Sport that long as well, but their dealer network here in Ohio is full of useless dealers. I had a way better service experience with VW tbf.
@@_dmfd go the stinger dude, you won't regret it
47K is a good deal if you compare it to an Integra which costs 45K. I'm really torn on whether I should replace my 2016 S3 with this car, or going with another S3.
New s3 is really good I would do that
The R is mechanically superior to the S3.
Well the integra isn’t a good deal to begin with, but I agree. This will hold its value, I would go for the R if you can. The S3 is great and all, but at that point I’d see if I could get an RS3
@@layne4376 And the R has the hatchback as well. You have to decide if looks are more important than those other things, and of course looks are subjective. I'm not terribly impressed with the S3 interior and for the price of an S3 you should also be looking at the M240i or M340i.
@@brucesuitt993 i agree. Although an M240i is a 2 door, it has just as much space in the rear. An S4 or M340i should be looked at.
Great review !
Agreed with the dislikes but compromised some of them, VW did a good job with the infotainment and allowed multiple ways of getting the same goal: ex; double tapping the temp with two fingers turns on the heated seats
Or press and hold on the screen displayed temperature and it lets you adjust it quicker.
Just a bit of knowledge nuggets you don’t get until you own it lol.
We in US have heated seats in the back btw, I thought Canada did too
nice video nice car 👏
Thanks! 👍shqipe
Every 3 years VW/Audi "finally fixes the handling" of the Golf R / RS3 and every following generation everyone admits it never worked and was still a front heavy, FWD-biased car that lacked personality.
I've never heard anyone ever complain about any of the MK7 model's brakes. I would imagine the MK8 models are the same or better.
Would you get the FL5 Type R over this?
nop
Awd>fwd
The Type R is a little more hardcore but overall the Golf R is the better car.
@@layne4376 lol
The Civic is slower, it has no traction, it looks like grandma's Accord, it sounds worse than any 4 cylinder in any sporty car and it has that tin can feel. If that's superior...
2 different cars for different purposes. You can ask the question, but it doesn’t make sense. Why are you buying either of these cars?
The Type R is more hardcore, the Golf is more like a GT car in comparison.
Front is Dual piston dude!
2023 Golf R is $51,000 CDN, don't know where you get $47,000 that's USD my friend, please do your research.
No ventilated seats in RS3. WTF?
☹️☹️
Brakes are dual piston and they come from RS3
I want i want!
MIne if for sale in Mlt :p Lapiz Blue!
In Ohio they are around 60k
Exhaust sound is regulated by the government.
I wish Audi made an S3 fast back... or HATCH!
Awesome review Sam !
I agree with you on everything!
Thanks a ton!
Considering that less than 10 yrs ago, the Porsche Cayman came with a base 2.7 flat six which produced 240 hp and a scant 201ft lbs of torque .... This Golf R is truly a baby Porsche. The poor man's 718. However you want to describe it despite it's questionable reliability and typical German electronic issues, this R is a Monster.
Dsg not dct trans
The dsg is a type of DCT. DSG is a term used by Volkswagen group of cars like VW Polo or Skoda Octavia DSG etc. VW owned Audi has its DCT termed as S-Tronic, Porsche calls it PDK etc.
Only person I’ve heard saying the brakes aren’t good.
You’re wrong, the brakes are absolutely immense. This thing stops so well it really does. Also it’s a DSG not a DCT.
You are wrong
@@SamCarLegionno I’m not I’m right.
alright you lost me at the type R sounding better lol. That thing sounds like a ricer and its not even freaking close. the n line cars sounds pretty good but id def say the golf R out of the already bad sounding 4cyc engines is the best.
May as well get a forte gt, more legroom much larger vehicle overall. Its more like gti performance so its a lot cheaper but you definitely wont be waiting more than a few months to get it.
Good one
@@SamCarLegion i have the hatch version and only seen 2 on the road ever. So at least theres the novelty of it being rare.
I work for KIA but this must be a joke right??
@@emiliodaloisio3312 i cant tell what you think im joking about? The almost gti performance? The massive amount of features? I dont care you work at a kia dealership. Ive seen only 4 gt hatches in the past 2 years of driving on toronto roads, so yes its rare.
Not when it costs 70k
I like the new BMW X1. Chip it with Stage 1 and BMS with sport exhaust, 20 inch aftermarket wheels with wide tires, optioned with the M package with the sport diff and adjustable sport dampers and you have more room, more tech, a super cool 😎 interior and an amazing handling sport SUV that's very similar to a hot hatch. And at a very similar price to a chipped VW R. Don't get me wrong, I love GTIs but the R isn't cheap. Great review though. The reason for my pick is because BMW will have a hybrid version with more combined power and the cool interior and infotainment system.
Sorry, but an X1 is just not even close to the same league as a Golf R, but enjoy your SUV.
The biggest problem is and always will be the fact that it is 4 cylinder. A 4 cylinder ecobox with numb driving feel going for over 60 grand. Ewwwww
The elantra N is fwd less HP , 10k$ cheaper and it's faster on the track. go figure🤔. (Watch throttle house) . The one that you tested goes for 52k before tax and markup. I would love to see how many km you can get from that over boost 2.0 engine before it will start breaking down like a typical VW. I'll stay with my 3.3T V6 engine.
The Elantra N’s are especially faster when it comes to blowing motors👌
i know it is not a VW but i own a 2017 gla45 with almost 100k kilomètres on it. it have inline4 2.0L that produce 375 hp stock and i have no issues at ALL.
@@jdavidblais good to know. But don't compare an AMG engine to a VW.
Golf R is made in Germany not Mexico
@@imranscarvideos i saw that they have a recall on the DCT. Just like when the DSG came out for the first time and thousand of them broke down all over the world in vw, skoda, seat.
Eh, came back to this review while I am waiting for my R, and I don't care for your review as much compared to many others out there. Your dislikes and some of the stated facts are either wrong, or stupid. They are your opinions, I get that, but still.
You don’t care about my review because you don’t like the truth 😂😂😂. The way you wrote the comment shows how stubborn you are and ignorant
The New Type R is much better
Interesting
As long as you pack your kidney belt.
For the cost of this car a 1 piston front caliper is BS. TOTAL BS. It's like Hyundai not having AWD in the Kona N. Cheapskate !!!! This car is $9,000 overpriced, that is in MSRP form in the USA. Just like if there was a Kona N AWD .......Just add the $1,600 AWD option. As is GTI add the $1,700 AWD option. Stop the over charge and sell more.
Agreed
It’s not 1 piston, maybe Sam should do some research
@@B58_bgood it is 1 piston. Where do you see 2 piston??
Anyone that’s going to track this is changing the brakes anyway
@@cavaseno For that price who wants "iffy" brakes. Who wants that even on a street car, not me.
But it’s boring
Honestly it looks like a cheap Korean car now not a German hot hatch
Ew , overpriced over hyped.
Best car and beast for daily dsg
Mk8 golf r dsg vs honda type r 2023
The music is way to loud compared to the rest of the video. Unsubbed.