The Pokémon Manga They Want You To Forget

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  • Опубликовано: 8 апр 2023
  • To celebrate the end of Ash Ketchum's quarter-century journey, let's look back at that time Nintendo and Game Freak let an "H" Manga artist adapt the Pokémon anime. Even if they'd rather you forget it.
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  • @mothersbasement
    @mothersbasement  Год назад +411

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    • @jplifeful
      @jplifeful Год назад +2

      Would you consider cover the Festival of Champions doujinshi? it's the best pokemon manga ever!

    • @mahiru20ten
      @mahiru20ten Год назад

      The mangaka would later do G-On Riders, which is his only work to be made into an anime.

    • @bensoncheung2801
      @bensoncheung2801 Год назад

      111 👍

    • @TacComControl
      @TacComControl Год назад

      ...You stuffed an entire Gamersupps shaker in your pubis mons? Now THERE'S a viral video waiting to happen.

    • @warlordhax5995
      @warlordhax5995 Год назад

      The amount of drink i spit out at anal justice

  • @everforward5561
    @everforward5561 Год назад +5177

    The censorship they had to do was pretty insane. I remember when the mangaka had an omake about the time he accidentally sent his adult work to Nintendo instead of the pokemon pages.

    • @RazielTheUnborn
      @RazielTheUnborn Год назад +308

      Lmao damn

    • @augustusaurelius2628
      @augustusaurelius2628 Год назад +47

      Kek

    • @JaceAce22
      @JaceAce22 Год назад +167

      That sounds like a nightmare

    • @skootz24
      @skootz24 Год назад +466

      Oh god. That's like "accidentally sending mom your lewds" levels of spooky.

    • @LA.20
      @LA.20 Год назад +63

      Explains how they are now changing the character designs, to more adult type.

  • @nirman423
    @nirman423 Год назад +6461

    The weirdest thing about Jessy and James getting together to me is that Jessy is the one preggers rather than James.

    • @paulj6805
      @paulj6805 Год назад +720

      I want to argue that point but I know exactly what you mean.

    • @Syncrotron9001
      @Syncrotron9001 Год назад +368

      Clearly one of them has been "blasting off"

    • @bearerofbadnews1375
      @bearerofbadnews1375 Год назад +163

      Hold up is this in the anime or the manga. I thought Jessy and James were gonna be RUclipsrs and podcasters at least that’s what I saw in the anime.

    • @NeedyBoBeedy
      @NeedyBoBeedy Год назад +18

      @@bearerofbadnews1375 why

    • @Future_Vantas
      @Future_Vantas Год назад +242

      @@NeedyBoBeedy I think its a reference to that one anime episode where James crossdresses with some very convincing boobs

  • @caveirainvocada9438
    @caveirainvocada9438 Год назад +1502

    Weird stuff aside, they way he drew Jesse and James as a couple is incredibly cute

    • @InoriVoid
      @InoriVoid 10 месяцев назад +5

      real

    • @ahmadmalaki8364
      @ahmadmalaki8364 10 месяцев назад +14

      And i love how Meowth is there like
      He he look at them together as a married couple
      How frickin stupid

    • @wizardski2320
      @wizardski2320 9 месяцев назад +12

      Hold on, I always assumed they were a couple in the show back in the days.

    • @ahmadmalaki8364
      @ahmadmalaki8364 9 месяцев назад +12

      @@wizardski2320 you can still think that

  • @Haysey_Draws
    @Haysey_Draws Год назад +408

    One thing you can never take away from Hentai artists, they can draw some amazing dynamic posing.

    • @Guciom
      @Guciom 8 месяцев назад +60

      You can't be succesful in drawing porn without knowing your anatomy.

    • @MatameVideos
      @MatameVideos 6 месяцев назад +10

      ​@@GuciomBut they also get super creative with the perspective

    • @AoiUsagiOtoko
      @AoiUsagiOtoko 6 месяцев назад +13

      it always confused me that the stereotype of hentai artists is that they're bad artists in a technical sense, because that's never been my experience. horny artists are usually pretty good artists, or at the very least artists that love what they do. they're having fun, and you can tell (in a sincere way lol this wasn't just a "lol horny" joke)

  • @shinyscyther
    @shinyscyther Год назад +2905

    Everyone always talk about the ecchi of this manga, but the real stuff was how amazingly the pokemon versions of ono are, incredible designs.

    • @kadosho02
      @kadosho02 Год назад +159

      Ono's monster art takes on a Shin Megami Style. The true version of the monsters. A reflection of what they could look like. Compared to how they portrayed in game / anime designs.
      Every creature had layers, and personality. Special mention of Gastly, Haunter, Gengar, Ala & Kazam & more. They take on a more menacing form, but love the person they are bonded to

    • @thomashooper2451
      @thomashooper2451 Год назад +110

      It's the horny that everyone talks about, but I wanted to see more of Ono's stab at classic Pokemon. That Gyarados is metal as fuck.

    • @kadosho02
      @kadosho02 Год назад +47

      @@thomashooper2451 i know, the evolution artwork hits even harder. From the useless original form, to the sea dragon. It was powerful, and dangerous. Plus other Pokemon fear its gaping maw, let alone how it looks.

    • @Aflay1
      @Aflay1 Год назад +15

      ​​​​I see the popular Gyarados panel online and it strikes me as absolutely menacing, positively realistic, but not lacking in character whatsoever.
      It maintained the perfect juxtapose of stylistic art and realism that it felt genuine to the world of the Manga, but also sold these as straight up monsters.
      4:02 You can tell that this creature's intentions are not instinctive, but it is still plainly vicious. You don't expect to reason with this creature, but it isn't thoughtless. Like an angry next door neighbor with a shotgun.

    • @lumilight4242
      @lumilight4242 Год назад +10

      That and some of the story being genuinely better than anything we got in the Pokemon anime (perhaps except for X and Y and Alola)

  • @gota7738
    @gota7738 Год назад +1709

    5:20 "Definitely darker than the anime"
    In the other areas probably, but the Rocket Trio has Jessie being orphaned as a child, living a life of poverty followed by a string of failed jobs leading to a life of crime, James came from a controlling family and ran away from home to escape an arranged abusive marriage, while Meowth was abandoned as a kitten to the streets, beaten up regularly for stealing food, taught himself to talk and walk to impress Meowzie who laughed at him and called him a freak.
    Even Brock had the issue with being left by his irresponsible parents to raise his siblings which is implied to be the cause of his love complex, looking for a partner who could help raise a family.
    Honestly would be super down for a Takeshi Shudo novels and visions breakdown.

    • @MrGksarathy
      @MrGksarathy Год назад +153

      Agreed. The anime has some pretty dark shit that could have gone somewhere. I mean, even Misty has to deal with her semi-abusive older sisters.

    • @Snake4985
      @Snake4985 Год назад +82

      And her mom was orphaned because she was a Team Rocket member who disappeared while searching for Mew

    • @antonioscendrategattico2302
      @antonioscendrategattico2302 Год назад +28

      Takeshi Shudo was definitely an interesting author. Definitely too free and with too much interesting shit to say for a profitable mass appeal franchise to tolerate.

    • @MrGksarathy
      @MrGksarathy Год назад +18

      @@Snake4985 The worst part is that Jessie's mom is apparently still alive and even sending reports.

    • @Snake4985
      @Snake4985 Год назад +7

      @@MrGksarathy Is she? I didn't see anything about that on Bulbapedia

  • @NotSoMax
    @NotSoMax Год назад +551

    I like to imagine an alternate universe where the main Pokémon universe was like this, a little darker, a bit more realistic designs for the Pokémon, and the characters actually getting to grow up and move on. Like imagine if every generation we got completely new cast and just saw our old characters occasionally intersect with the new characters and their adventures but as older more accomplished trainers.

    • @RadeticDaniel
      @RadeticDaniel Год назад +31

      that's the other manga he covered in the video cited in the beginning
      one character for each game and stories flip protagonists as the game cycles come and go

    • @jefinathariwirza6578
      @jefinathariwirza6578 Год назад +27

      That just the "pokemon adventure" manga

    • @eyesightc.o3016
      @eyesightc.o3016 Год назад +13

      Like JoJo

    • @ChangedMyNameFinally69
      @ChangedMyNameFinally69 10 месяцев назад

      A little darker but this manga does go into some weird places IMO, realistic designs? Nah

    • @BeingOfEvil0
      @BeingOfEvil0 8 месяцев назад +1

      Pokemon adventure lol

  • @GogglesVonAwesome
    @GogglesVonAwesome Год назад +983

    I actually had some of the early editions of the manga before they edited them for reprints and as a 11 year old kid I was like "why are her boobs like that??? why are some of these outfits so weird???" I would only learn that Ono was an H artist years later as an adult. I remember as a middle school girl thinking his art was actually quite pretty, if only he didn't draw such odd outfits and torpedo breasts.

    • @Nel_Annette
      @Nel_Annette Год назад +160

      I will never forget my dad thumbing through one of the issues (he loved comic art), and looking at me and asking "you're sure this is for kids your age?" XD

    • @LeviathanRX
      @LeviathanRX Год назад +21

      Was gonna say because I remember the horny in the english version

    • @williambarnes5023
      @williambarnes5023 Год назад +76

      "Are you sure this is for kids your age?"
      "Well, she's like ten, so it better not be for people YOUR age..."

    • @RealBullbear
      @RealBullbear 10 месяцев назад +7

      @@williambarnes5023💯

    • @KarIiah
      @KarIiah 9 месяцев назад +8

      Torpedo breasts, lmao I can't-

  • @Gooberjoovies
    @Gooberjoovies Год назад +1062

    I don't know how, but after buying the first comic at a fucking flea market, I somehow convinced my mom to get new chapters sent to me BY MAIL from Viz Media, and boy howdy I think the more dangerous piece of media to ever enter my hands wasn't the comic itself, but Viz's goddamn catalog, where an impressionable 10 year old got an eyeful of a full page splash ad of Asuka in a plugsuit advertising Evangelion...

    • @mothersbasement
      @mothersbasement  Год назад +383

      Oh man I remember those EVA manga ads. All that censorship work went to waste in an instant

    • @KrytenKoro
      @KrytenKoro Год назад +57

      I REMEMBER THAT EXACT COVER

    • @eropandasennin13
      @eropandasennin13 Год назад +98

      "Oh man, I hope this doesn't awaken something inside of me"

    • @raidnoir8691
      @raidnoir8691 Год назад +16

      @@KrytenKoro link?

    • @ladynikkie
      @ladynikkie Год назад +20

      You want to know what's crazy. I actually found these books at a dollar store. When I was a kid they came in a pack of four comic books. I actually went to my local comic book store and found a few of these books.

  • @BingBangPoe
    @BingBangPoe Год назад +897

    I loved this manga growing up. I recall wondering _"Why isn't Oak such a badass like that in the anime?"_ He was pretty much Steve Irwin in that manga. Like you said, there were so many nuances and layers to these characters. Writing the Pokémon to feel like actual wild creatures that could downright kill you was brilliant; much like, you know, real-world animals. And similarly to you, the Sabrina chapters were the ones that really stuck with me too! That Haunter was terrifying!

    • @kadosho02
      @kadosho02 Год назад +38

      Oak definitely did have those vibes. A veteran in the field, but always learning, exploring. I am honestly not sure why, he was never more involved like his anime persona. More Manga Oak please
      Sabrina's story. That went another level. It was dark, menacing, haunting, and eerie. It literally felt like a mash up of a horror title that took over. Nothing wrong with that, but it gave that part of the manga more risk. Ash and friends had to go in, facing the unknown, where others lost.
      Then things were shifting, within the Haunter's choice, power, and had a heart. It was more than a menacing presence, or monster.

    • @toddclawson3619
      @toddclawson3619 Год назад +10

      I always had the impression that Oak in the anime and game was more of a senior researcher that was getting too old for expeditions so he was instead providing a valuable safe place at his lab for pokemon trainers to leave their pokemon and do important research as well. I would be surprised if he didn't have a legion of junior researches heading out and finding new stuff for him to look at. It was cool in a different way.

  • @OmniOtaku
    @OmniOtaku Год назад +217

    I had these mangas. I loved how they portrayed how TMs are used by cracked one in half and putting both halves on each side of a Pokémon’s head while it basically downloads the move data into their brain.

    • @noranizaazmi6523
      @noranizaazmi6523 Год назад +20

      As a kid, I thought that they put those TMs into TM players and then let the pokemon watch it 😅

    • @andieallison6792
      @andieallison6792 Год назад

      TM?

    • @OmniOtaku
      @OmniOtaku Год назад

      @@andieallison6792 Technical Machine

    • @N12015
      @N12015 10 месяцев назад +4

      @@noranizaazmi6523 Which is how it works since gen 5.

  • @Roll-Penut
    @Roll-Penut Год назад +507

    Fun fact, this manga artist also did a magic the gathering manga that has NEVER been officially translated (or unofficially to my knowledge) to English

    • @peterbraunschweig2779
      @peterbraunschweig2779 Год назад +16

      Wait, there's more than one MTG manga? Because I know there's one that's been translated and seems to be semi-official.

    • @mot6376
      @mot6376 Год назад +11

      @@peterbraunschweig2779 indeed it was a one volume series titled MAGIC URZA & MISHRA and covers the first 14 chapters of the original novel

    • @twenty-fifth420
      @twenty-fifth420 Год назад +5

      ⁠​⁠@@mot6376 I actually read it, and the book its ‘based’ on.. The manga was pretty good but that was so long ago.
      Also ironically one of the best MTG material considering the gambit for books.

    • @spuhgetti
      @spuhgetti Год назад +6

      @@peterbraunschweig2779 theres a magic the gathering manga called Destroy All Humankind. They Can't Be Regenerated

    • @noobium5333
      @noobium5333 Год назад +2

      @@spuhgetti do not look at the authors other works ☠

  • @robertfaulkkner5508
    @robertfaulkkner5508 Год назад +478

    “Signing out from our Secret Base” is the cutest way you could have ended the video. That line is just so charming.

  • @U1TR4F0RCE
    @U1TR4F0RCE Год назад +685

    I will say the whole thing of the natural world of Pokemon is definitely something that was a big part of the appeal of Pokemon Snap. As well as in Adventures the whole gym leaders having sets of team based on how many badges they have.

    • @trident042
      @trident042 Год назад +15

      If anything, I feel like this is a missed opportunity for the game franchise in its major releases as well. A disappointment I have both in X/Y as well as Scarlet/Violet, is that they show you different ways trainers can live their lives, but then for X/Y they're like "no you gotta do the 'be the best like no one ever was' method" and for S/V they just go "lol no you gotta do all of em."
      I would love a main series game where there is equal importance given to taking a track where you only fill out the 'dex, or go for champion status, or fight the evil gang war, or breed and care for rare species. And each could have its own story, encouraging you to potentially offload mons from one save file (you know, if Home ever works) and start fresh!

    • @MrGksarathy
      @MrGksarathy Год назад +9

      @@trident042 I mean, Legends Arceus definitely fulfilled some of that. Cataloguing Pokémon behaviors at a time when not very much was known about them in a wild, dangerous land is the main draw of the game.

    • @ExeErdna
      @ExeErdna Год назад +3

      @@MrGksarathy They had something gold there and went RIGHT back to status quo...

    • @MrGksarathy
      @MrGksarathy Год назад +3

      @@ExeErdna Don't disagree with you, even if SV does make an honest effort at more emotional, character-based storytelling. That, and it somehow plays worse than PLA in terms of actually catching Pokémon.

  • @Aflay1
    @Aflay1 Год назад +164

    13:22 Thats insane.
    It is dark and surreal, and yet this is exactly the sort of thing that happens in the games. Not necessarily with Haunter, but Pokemon in general that possess the move "self-destruct".
    Makes ya see the game in a new light.
    I love writing like this.

  • @MidgarMerc
    @MidgarMerc Год назад +274

    12 year old me learned a lot about himself from seeing Misty in her gym swimsuit.

    • @realjoemavro
      @realjoemavro Год назад +35

      Misty had that effect on all of us.

    • @mrinfinite5772
      @mrinfinite5772 Год назад +2

      ayo fr?

    • @lordgeneralmilitantdeezy7550
      @lordgeneralmilitantdeezy7550 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@realjoemavroamen

    • @N12015
      @N12015 10 месяцев назад +13

      ​@@realjoemavro All of the ones who started on gen 1. I'm too young to have grew in gen 1 with my first game being Platinum, which... did not awoke anything in me because the regular girls were oddly modest, and while Candice is cute she was not that relevant.
      If it was any game it would ge Black/White in good part due to Ohmura's work, from the Waitress to Nursery aide to the Scientists to Nurse to Ranger to Office worker to Medium to backers to Smasher to lady Elesa to ace trainer to to Shauntal and Caitlin and SPECIALLY SKYLA. You notice girls suddenly are now... very cute due to how Ohmura tends to draw. Even YOUR MOM is kinda sexy.
      Then X/Y arrived, with polished and beautiful artwork draws that were showed up-close to the player, which I imagine it awoke a lot of things with Viola and Corrina, as well as maybe the lass, ace trainer, sightseer, lady, roller skater, furisode girls, rangers, battle girls, those tanned blonde swimmers in particular and... you get the idea. Imagine having 14 years when seeing it... Yeah, sometimes both the games and the manga play with the limits.
      I honestly cannot pretend I dislike that art direction at all, even if kinda fanservice-heavy.

    • @realjoemavro
      @realjoemavro 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@N12015
      Okay, but answer this; Bea or Melony? Your answer will let me know if you are a true man of culture.

  • @cardboardtubeknight
    @cardboardtubeknight Год назад +1854

    Never forget what they took from us.

  • @tyrosinetek
    @tyrosinetek Год назад +233

    As someone who was 4 when Star Trek: The Next Generation went off the air, I would have immediately gotten the Jean Luc Pikachu joke. My dad was a massive Star Trek fan and between his long work hours and long commute, it was one of the few things I got to do with him.

    • @halycon404
      @halycon404 Год назад +4

      I miss when Star Trek was aspirational and something that could be shown to a kid. The old stuff had morals and life lessons about how to treat people with respect and dignity. It drilled down into some pretty deep philosophical questions at times. Things people should think about.

    • @jy3n2
      @jy3n2 Год назад +2

      @@halycon404 Good news: now there's one that's explicitly written for kids, so you don't have to worry about explaining why Quark, Worf, and Jadzia are so happy to have multiple fractures.

  • @AlderDragon
    @AlderDragon Год назад +80

    The idea of Gary being more of a friendly rival is also kind of mirrored in their Japanese names. Ash being Satoshi (Tajiri) and Gary being Shigeru (Miyamoto), since Tajiri has said that he always viewed Miyamoto as a creative influence and mentor.

  • @koopdog87
    @koopdog87 Год назад +10

    My grandmother was very conservative when I was growing up. I couldn't watch The Simpsons or That 70s Show when I visited since they "weren't proper for young boys," but she knew that my brother and I liked Pokemon. She picked up the first 2 or 3 volumes of this series for us to read while we visited. I don't know if she actually looked through them before buying, but she would have had a heart attack if she knew what kind of artist made the series.

  • @ryanphoenix2460
    @ryanphoenix2460 Год назад +214

    Wow they made Prof Oak into a DILF; 10/10 series, no notes

    • @MusicoftheDamned
      @MusicoftheDamned Год назад +13

      Heh. "Made". He always was, though the way he's drawn here vaguely makes me think of Ging from _Hunter x Hunter_ and means calling him a "DILF" becomes extra funny given what a deadbeat dad Ging is.

  • @ramirezthesilvite
    @ramirezthesilvite Год назад +126

    Black Fog was part of the reason Haunter was my favorite Pokemon for years and years. I even named my Haunters "Black Fog" whenever I remembered it.

    • @SlimeBlueMS
      @SlimeBlueMS Год назад

      Whenever I remembered it
      So never

    • @ramirezthesilvite
      @ramirezthesilvite Год назад +6

      @Slime Blue what? I have like eight "Black Fogs" scattered across 20 or so games. I don't always nickname my pokemon and I did it more frequently early on. Been a while since I booted it up, but I'm pretty sure my shiny Gengar in PLA was the latest to receive that designation. Why would you assume never? What does that assumption add? What would I gain from lying about something so inconsequential?

    • @probablyjinxed
      @probablyjinxed 10 месяцев назад +3

      this made me think, a “black fog” paradox haunter would be so lit. would be the one instance of kanto shilling i wouldn’t mind

  • @damienhailey118
    @damienhailey118 Год назад +23

    This is what I loved about Ono's manga. It wasn't afraid to go deeper, go farther, reach into implications of the world the games and anime set up without going too dark.

  • @kamuyking551
    @kamuyking551 Год назад +13

    that first "hey twerp" in James's voice during the sponsor segment was actually really spot on... holy shit.

  • @alicethemad1613
    @alicethemad1613 Год назад +626

    “Wait, you guys were straight?”
    I had the exact same question. The only possible explanation is they’re each other’s beards, there is no heterosexual explanation for team rocket.

    • @Alias_Anybody
      @Alias_Anybody Год назад +95

      I mean they could just be into multiple things. Men, women, mechs, Pokémon, ...

    • @MrGksarathy
      @MrGksarathy Год назад +131

      It wasn't that gay. I mean it was pretty gay, but it was pretty straight too. Maybe we could say it was super bi?
      Also, Jessie and James were the only legit ship in any anime-related media.

    • @TysonRex37
      @TysonRex37 Год назад +107

      Oh they were obviously both Bi

    • @nibblitman
      @nibblitman Год назад +65

      You can be strait and fabulous and at least in this manga they clearly are.

    • @cj-hw3pv
      @cj-hw3pv Год назад

      They gave me, "id fuck anyone in this league vibes" super bi

  • @MrInuhanyou123
    @MrInuhanyou123 Год назад +579

    Man I remember this Pokemon manga in the 90s. Felt actually way more interesting than what Pokemon turned into 😂

    • @comyuse9103
      @comyuse9103 Год назад +17

      we got the worst possible timelime when it comes to pokemon

    • @piens51
      @piens51 Год назад +5

      What you remember likely is specal manga. It's still going.

    • @midknightshade330
      @midknightshade330 Год назад +3

      @@comyuse9103 eh I wouldn’t go that far.

    • @chaserseven2886
      @chaserseven2886 Год назад +1

      not really

    • @CM_684
      @CM_684 Год назад +1

      @@midknightshade330 fair point. One of the worst, you never know how worse the worst could be.

  • @UpFromTheDepths88
    @UpFromTheDepths88 Год назад +32

    Was a kid during the 90s Pokemon phase, and as my mom snatched up any Pokemon stuff she could for me, I never forgot the random issue of The Electric Tales of Pikachu she got me. I remember being taken aback by how dark and, ehem, adult it was in certain ways. Haunter was a soul eating demon, and artwork was really gnarly.

  • @MrGksarathy
    @MrGksarathy Год назад +19

    I always love it when Pokemon actually makes itself feel like a lived in world with real creatures both fascinating and dangerous and a real history influenced by interactions with such creatures. It's why Legends Arceus is by far my favorite Pokemon game, followed by Sun and Moon.

  • @galaxa13
    @galaxa13 Год назад +313

    OK, I have a friend who read this and all she ever told me about it was how hot Professor Oak was and how there were boobs everywhere. I thought that this manga was just a gross cash grab, but your video has convinced me it might actually have some good story even if the art may be questionable.

    • @kadosho02
      @kadosho02 Год назад +27

      The art is excellent, it takes on a different form of the games and anime. Totally worth exploring

    • @TheRoleplayer40k
      @TheRoleplayer40k Год назад

      'Questionable' American prude detected

    • @ItzaMystri
      @ItzaMystri Год назад +6

      Yeah it's actually really good, it was my favorite as a kid especially as a team rocket fan

    • @Zinyak12345
      @Zinyak12345 Год назад +9

      Upon hearing about lewd content, you assume cash grab? What's wrong with lewd stuff?

    • @SlimeBlueMS
      @SlimeBlueMS Год назад +10

      Unless boobs offend you, there's no reason to ignore this book

  • @johnbray7887
    @johnbray7887 Год назад +255

    This is a trip down memory lane. these were some of my favorite manga...
    Edit: HOLY SHIT IT WENT ON FOR HOW LONG?!?!
    looks like in going to be looking up the series... I had 3 or 4 volumes as a kid. Definitely spent too much time on the water gym fight.

    • @denjismissingnut2222
      @denjismissingnut2222 Год назад +1

      What's the name of the manga series? The art for the Pokemon looks sick

    • @Deimos_the_Autist
      @Deimos_the_Autist Год назад +1

      How many issues were there I keep only finding 1-4 at least of uncut English versions

    • @DigimonAdventure2001
      @DigimonAdventure2001 Год назад +2

      ​@@denjismissingnut2222 The Electric Tale of Pikachu

  • @pendaco
    @pendaco Год назад +29

    This manga looks like something that would be great for Studio Trigger to animate. A Kill La Kill meets Pokemon if you will!

    • @thebolas000
      @thebolas000 11 месяцев назад +5

      "Catch La Catch"

  • @TheUnluckyEverydude
    @TheUnluckyEverydude Год назад +6

    The Sabrina fight is why Haunter was my favorite Pokemon for a very long time.

  • @torch-bearer9138
    @torch-bearer9138 Год назад +51

    This was actually one of the first Manga I ever read and subsequently became the reason my grandmother banned manga from her house

  • @SecretIdentityStudio
    @SecretIdentityStudio Год назад +264

    I always liked Magical Pokémon Journey/PiPiPi Adventure, the cutesy shoujo one nobody else remembers.

    • @lowtech42
      @lowtech42 Год назад +7

      I remember that one!!! Thank you for unlocking this innocent childhood memory after seeing this video lol

    • @NoelHasFeathers
      @NoelHasFeathers Год назад +5

      same!!! the story is so low stakes and cute

    • @Tenko72
      @Tenko72 Год назад +7

      I loved that one! I'm sad the ending never released in the USA in English. Only Singapore. And no one in Singapore is selling it. I can't even find spoilers for the ending, because the fans in other countries aren't posting it. Bulbapedia doesn't have it! This series was my BL awakening, because I shipped Pikachu and Clefairy hard. I actually like how this series went all the way with its shojo logic with love triangles and then some involving everyone. Hazel's rival is a male Squirtle! It's the best most nuts thing ever! Koume/Apricot was my favorite character, which is especially sad, since the USA releases didn't get to the chapter with her. I had to rely on a scanlation.

    • @GoddoDoggo
      @GoddoDoggo Год назад +7

      No I LOVE PiPiPi adventure! That manga is the reason I started naming all of my Pokemon after food in the games!

    • @GoddoDoggo
      @GoddoDoggo Год назад +3

      @@Tenko72 If you mean the ending of the Hazel/Almond storyline, if I recall I think Hazel goes looking for Mew/Mewtwo to grant her wish for Almond to love her, but Almond follows her and ends up telling her it was pointless because he loved her the whole time. Then it just sort of ends? And there are a few bonus chapters. Honestly, it was a little anticlimactic, not the best romance plot, but I only read it for cuteness anyway. :D

  • @TheZajicekfarber
    @TheZajicekfarber Год назад +14

    I have these comics, and always loved them as a kid. I knew they were definitely weirder than regular pokemon, but never knew they had such a wild origin.

  • @Marinealver
    @Marinealver Год назад +9

    I remember a certain Pokémon Trainer Card only in Japan that had a Trainer holding a Starme and not wearing any clothes.

  • @BioshadowX
    @BioshadowX Год назад +162

    Electric Tale of Pikachu feels like the best of fanfiction and I mean that in the way when fanfiction gets better than the source. Reimagining a world *the gimmick* has had humanity grow up along side it, interesting side stories that actually stick with the protag, and the bizarrely rammed in fanservice that sometimes (rarely) leads to some very interesting dynamics and topics that source wouldn't touch

    • @taskdon769
      @taskdon769 Год назад +3

      Well, many of the old Nintendo games official manga releases are more along the line of "fanfiction (doujin)" but get an approval from developers. Most of them were one issue manga but it may get a longer story depends on popularity.

    • @SlimeBlueMS
      @SlimeBlueMS Год назад +3

      Except this isn't fanfiction, lol

  • @just_a_turtle_chad
    @just_a_turtle_chad Год назад +144

    This manga will be remembered for generations for being remembered for generations

  • @Scorpiofrfr
    @Scorpiofrfr Год назад +78

    Why would the Company want people to forget this manga? It sounds like a masterpiece. It would add a more adult demographic to their costumers.

    • @ChangedMyNameFinally69
      @ChangedMyNameFinally69 10 месяцев назад +12

      Because that's not really what Pokemon is

    • @thunderousavenger2382
      @thunderousavenger2382 10 месяцев назад +8

      ​@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 it should be tho.
      If there were more darker themed media id love this series.
      It has far too much potential but its all wasted to purely focus on the kiddo audience.
      A shame.

    • @ChangedMyNameFinally69
      @ChangedMyNameFinally69 10 месяцев назад +8

      @@thunderousavenger2382 My dude they're silly cartoon animals, one is a literal psychic duck that acts like an idiot. Named Psyduck. Can you imagine one of these killing or eating someone? There's nothing wrong with liking media made for kids dude. I'm not the hugest fan of how Care Bears saccharine the franchise can get at times when even Disney movies are darker, but the other direction often comes off as cringey and immature in its own right. See Pokemon Insurgence or Rocket Edition if you want examples of how attempts to make Pokemon needlessly dark can come off as silly. Delve into darker stuff yes, but curses, violence, political discussion and sex all look ridiculous when put in a world where they let ten year olds run into the wild to catch colorful magical animals with magic balls.

    • @thunderousavenger2382
      @thunderousavenger2382 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@ChangedMyNameFinally69 you hit the mark on the spot.
      Silly cartoon animals.
      Aimed at kids.
      Thats why i desire a more realistic depection of said cartoon animals towards a more mature audience.
      And i did play the romhacks you mentioned already.
      There is big potential but it wont happen.
      Because again. This stuff is aimed at kids. And it will stay aimed at kids.

    • @ChangedMyNameFinally69
      @ChangedMyNameFinally69 10 месяцев назад

      @@thunderousavenger2382 A desire for something to be mature just for its own sake is its own form of immaturity. And it just doesn't work with a franchise so conceptually silly like Pokemon, even Sonic or Transformers are only silly in their worldbuilding, their concepts are standard hero fantasies. But Pokemon's concept is about beating up magical creatures so you can stuff them into little balls and make them fight other creatures, and then you gotta fight eight guys so you can fight five more guys and become the nebulous title of Champion. You fight villains but mostly out of circumstance. Couple that with the silly designs and it'd feel stupid to try to pair that up with adult concepts beyond what you might find in a summer blockbuster or Shonen anime, if even because those can get pretty violent and sexual themselves. Even Adventures doesn't get that dark.
      Why do you think you're entitled to completely changing the franchise anyway? All you're doing is alienating Pokemon's mass appeal and completely locking it away for a new generation to enjoy. Contrary to what y'all think there's kids growing up with the new generations too, plenty fans I've seen that grew up with gens 4, 5 and 6. It's pretty selfish to hoard this idea and make it solely catered to your tastes because you can't move on or accept Pokemon as it is.

  • @mrkaji8913
    @mrkaji8913 10 месяцев назад +2

    6:22 now I definitely want to see that get animated

  • @torgan
    @torgan Год назад +105

    Oh God, the years of JWittz videos are flooding my mind right now. I really did forget this manga existed.

    • @SolstaceWinters
      @SolstaceWinters 11 месяцев назад

      Now there's a name I've not heard in many a year.

  • @jb0258
    @jb0258 Год назад +127

    I vividly remember being in kindergarten in 2000. All of us had to bring in a book from home, to practice reading to the teacher. I brought The Electric Tale of Pikachu and the teacher told me I was not allowed to bring it back 😅

    • @michaell8000
      @michaell8000 Год назад +6

      Haha the version with misty In the crop top?

    • @jb0258
      @jb0258 Год назад +15

      @@michaell8000 lol the very one! And funny enough, I still have it to this day

  • @the_godbodor7026
    @the_godbodor7026 Год назад +16

    I had no clue this manga is where Black Fog is from. I remember watching the Starter Squad RUclips series and seeing the Haunter take that form. It’s part of the reason Haunter is my favorite character in that series and knowing the actual story behind the creature now, the og Black Fog sounds sick as hell!

    • @yellow_9997
      @yellow_9997 8 месяцев назад

      yooo i havent hear about Starter squad in years

    • @the_godbodor7026
      @the_godbodor7026 8 месяцев назад

      @yellow_9997 Probably because of how long uploads take, they haven’t really made any more episodes in years. I still remember because me and my friends quote it constantly or play the Rock Smasher song every now and then to this day

  • @WilliamSyler
    @WilliamSyler Месяц назад +1

    The comparison you show at 16:39 solidifies for me that I had some of the originals, cause I *remember those*. Explains a lot about me now.

  • @jess_o
    @jess_o Год назад +46

    This art style is just perfection

  • @ValkyrieTiara
    @ValkyrieTiara Год назад +108

    I definitely think there would be a market for an unflipped, uncensored, retranslated two volume version of this manga. Hell you could even make them limited edition or something. I DON'T think NoA would actually go for that, but it would be cool very cool.

    • @wiiztec
      @wiiztec Год назад +4

      Someone's had to have done it in Photoshop by now right just take the original Japanese version white out all the speech bubbles and paste in the translations, oh and a little bit of actual translation work for the cut pages

    • @mon573r6
      @mon573r6 8 месяцев назад

      "a market for"
      It would be a best seller...lol

  • @jaybeans981
    @jaybeans981 Год назад +18

    It's weird learning later on that before this, the mangaka also did a manga for Barcode Fighter for Corocoro, based on a real-life game system where you scan barcodes of items to fight, and then just decided to write an excellent trans character IN 1992 which he then did doujin sequels with

    • @TJF588
      @TJF588 Год назад +4

      I could not have expect this triangulated intersection of Things I'm Aware Of, but I am now deathly curious.

    • @jaybeans981
      @jaybeans981 Год назад +1

      Amilee Doree did a whole video on it. Search for “The Wild Barcode Battling Trans Rights Mecha Shonen & Its Doujin Sequels”

    • @DrewBlue92
      @DrewBlue92 9 месяцев назад +1

      Wait what? What is it called????

    • @jaybeans981
      @jaybeans981 9 месяцев назад

      See my other reply @@DrewBlue92

    • @slime_ism
      @slime_ism 8 месяцев назад

      @@DrewBlue92 just called Barcode Fighter. If you google Barcode Fighter Corocoro manga its easy to find

  • @darienb1127
    @darienb1127 11 месяцев назад +9

    I never knew that this Manga had this interesting worldbuilding to it. I love to think about what living with Pokemon would actually be like. And I think it gets even more interesting when you bring in the Mons that are more than just a wild animal. A lot of those debates bring out the Harkness Test very quickly, but I think that still has a lot of intersting merit to it. I'm not mad that it's not explored more (Pokemon is going for something else with its world), but I think there's still so much there.

  • @FireLight_Zero
    @FireLight_Zero Год назад +83

    Imagine if we got this guy back for a Xenoblade Chronicles 2 manga..
    Edit: Place your bets now, how many chapters/issues of this rhetorical Manga would pass until it was heavily implied that Pyra and/or Mythra took Rex to the bone zone?

    • @Alias_Anybody
      @Alias_Anybody Год назад +10

      That... actually makes way too much sense.

    • @liamruiz3196
      @liamruiz3196 Год назад +3

      I need MothersBase to make a video about xenoblade 2

    • @manaphy1007
      @manaphy1007 Год назад +14

      0 because it's already cannon

    • @FireLight_Zero
      @FireLight_Zero Год назад +3

      @manaphy100 got me there! Pretty sure that photograph surprised the hell out of everyone..

    • @StevenUlyssesPerhero
      @StevenUlyssesPerhero Год назад +4

      Blade Resonance/Bond levels are a free pass to jump to it pretty much immediately.

  • @thehopeofeden597
    @thehopeofeden597 Год назад +41

    The censorship and ecchi aside, some of the actual battle art in this manga is insanely good, and the ending of the Indigo League is like 20 times more satisfying than the original. I’m glad people are talking about it!

    • @sooners2037
      @sooners2037 Год назад

      The league was handled a lot better for example both Brock and Misty battle in the league and lose in the opening round. Richie is introduced a lot earlier and beats Gary in the 4th round. Ash Vs Richie has no Team Rocket crap in it. Thought the Squirtle call is still in it Squirtle ties happy. Ash and Richie both use Charziard as their last Pokémon. The end of their battle was handled better than the Anime. Richie’s Charziard is about to be killed by Ash’s and his pokeball malfunctions so Ash calls his back and forfeits the battle (he technically was going to win but didn’t want the guilt of killing a Pokémon in the league) he leaves the stadium which is what causes the forfeit. He still wins the Orange Island match against Drake. We don’t see what happens to Richie after his match with Ash (the anime he loses in the quarterfinals in ETOP it’s unknown)

  • @VanessaVersus
    @VanessaVersus Год назад +6

    Look, Jesse and James are the original T4T couple; of course they were always going to end up together

  • @SFPP_Archival_Recordings
    @SFPP_Archival_Recordings Год назад

    I’m so excited you covered this! I have some of these manga volumes from when I was a kid. In fact I have a mini version of the first chapter from some book store special. I have fond memories of this series.

  • @Racecarlock
    @Racecarlock Год назад +11

    Nothing like going straight from gigguk's video about "My Life as Inukai-san's Dog" to this one.

  • @goldmemberpb
    @goldmemberpb Год назад +32

    I very vaguely recall owning a copy of this manga and I lent it to my friend once when he went on vacation. I never got it back. He said he accidentally left it in a hotel in Malaysia or Indonasia. I forget which volume it was but I think one of them is now ridiculously expensive.

    • @Ergeniz
      @Ergeniz Год назад

      I hope you kicked his ass.

  • @ForelliBoy
    @ForelliBoy Год назад +2

    I always thought this was where the "Electric Boogaloo" reference came from

  • @meteor22
    @meteor22 Год назад +5

    I really loved this manga. I just happened to stumble upon it as a kid and fell in love with it's art style. It was also different and a little more serious in it's story telling when compared to the anime which hooked me even more so. That Giant Haunter story arc is what I remember 1st when I think of this Pokemon manga.

  • @perciusmandate
    @perciusmandate Год назад +38

    I think the only issue of EToP I bought as a kid just happened to be the one with the disturbingly gory zombie Pokemon. So... that was an interesting introduction to the manga.

    • @stupidmonkey089
      @stupidmonkey089 10 месяцев назад +1

      You're thinking of Pokemon Adventure, the other manga that was more a fleshed out version of the game as opposed to the anime that this one was

  • @AssaulteedOne
    @AssaulteedOne Год назад +3

    Oh yeah! This was the pack-in with the first volume of the Pokémon anime on VHS! The VHS sleeve had the first chapter as a printed booklet packed in - always wondered if that ran for longer than that 1 chapter. Nice to know it actually had an ending of sorts & was pretty unique throughout.

  • @beastmanreview009
    @beastmanreview009 Год назад

    Glad to have found your channel! I remember reading these years ago!

  • @EagleVision1999
    @EagleVision1999 Год назад +56

    I always wanted to own this because of the rocketshipping but I could never find a copy. There's also a doujinshi from this very author that focussed on Team Rocket getting busy :D
    I understand annoyance with censorship but I also think there's a time and place for everything and maybe a manga for kiddos ain't it.

    • @Ergeniz
      @Ergeniz Год назад +14

      I'm opposed to censorship on principle. However, I must admit my view on it has become a bit more nuanced over the years - many times the quality of a work can improve when the creator has to work around/within certain limitations. In regards to this particular work, I actually do prefer the more modest, redrawn designs on an aesthetic level.

  • @jcam5
    @jcam5 Год назад +36

    I had all the issues with this manga in my youth. It was awesome. I'll never forget that one issue with the orange islands brother and sister.

  • @N0V4C4T
    @N0V4C4T 9 месяцев назад +1

    All's these years later I find out I had the first 3 magazines for the "weird" pokemon manga. The more you know I guess. great video, very enlightening.

  • @JabrielTimeline
    @JabrielTimeline Год назад +9

    I'm pretty upset now. The only thing I've ever heard about this manga was how ecchi it is, this and that, but never how well thought it actually is. The interpretation of the Pokémon world in a very acurate way, how interesting is the league system, how well writen the characters are, etc...
    It is really one of the "came for the hot, stayed for the plot" kind and now I want more of it.

  • @blksteve11
    @blksteve11 Год назад +18

    Geoff, I think I may pick up reading manga again thanks to this. Seriously, I pulled this up on my phone. I forgot how much I loved reading the manga versions of all the anime i used to watch as a kid and how much darker and expanded they all are. Thank you, wonderful video as always!

  • @egsauce2911
    @egsauce2911 Год назад +49

    Great video, you two! I loved that Yazzy got to put her two cents in the mix!
    I know filming & uploading schedules are a pain but I have missed her content. Love her cadence & way of explaining stuff.

    • @mothersbasement
      @mothersbasement  Год назад +22

      Yeah she’s the best! She’ll hopefully be doing some more manga reviews soon

  • @Taku7Green
    @Taku7Green Год назад +1

    dengeki pikachu is my absolute favorite piece of pokémon media, I'm so happy that is getting the attention that its deserve
    great job MB!

  • @bbrbbr-on2gd
    @bbrbbr-on2gd Год назад +3

    This is the one! This is the one I grew up on! I love this version of the Pokemon world, it feels genuinely lived in. I desperately want an open world game with this level of care and lore put into it. Where the Mon's are actually animals that live in the world and have their own habitats.
    I have a few issues of this series still. I've been wanting to buy the entire series for sometime now. Thanks for this awesome video!

  • @PrimRooks
    @PrimRooks Год назад +14

    Clicked for the curiosity factor, stayed for the surprisingly in-depth analysis of the Dengeki Pikachu manga and the sneak-peeks at the seriously cool-looking interpretations of wild Pokemon

  • @madambutterfly1997
    @madambutterfly1997 Год назад +9

    That jelly filled donuts bit is still unforgivable

  • @Daemon_Black
    @Daemon_Black Год назад

    Never finished but I loved what I saw of the manga it literally brought my love for Pokémon back and I absolutely blazed through all the manga content I could thanks for the VID

  • @PregnantOrc
    @PregnantOrc Год назад +1

    I'm surprised din't go with the frame from 13:26 when describing Onos love for Evangelion.
    That is some top level EVA homage.

  • @docterfantazmo
    @docterfantazmo Год назад +5

    My first crush was Misty, seeing her og design years back blew my tiny brain out.

  • @tespenkr9924
    @tespenkr9924 Год назад +8

    The Mangas do too good of a job making the Lavender Town Tower scary. From zombified pokemon to this godly Haunter.

  • @call_me_maple
    @call_me_maple Год назад +5

    Here's hoping this video pushes someone to continue the uncensored translations, we've got vol 1 and 2 but 3 and 4 haven't been touched, it's been long enough I think.

  • @igorgiuseppe1862
    @igorgiuseppe1862 11 месяцев назад +1

    2:18 ok that was a clever ad i admit

  • @DrawsWithCubes
    @DrawsWithCubes Год назад +7

    Dude you have been killing it with these recent vids. Keep it up 🙌

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 Год назад +5

    Love your content, your wit and humour, they really brighten my day!

  • @vampirecheetah
    @vampirecheetah Год назад +1

    I have really fond memories of going to the mall's bookstore as an early teen just to pick up new issues of this series. I really loved the style and the renditions of the pokemon, as well as the direction taken with the stories. I think this version of the pokemon world is the one I'd most want to be in and remains the most nostalgic to me. I still have all the issues I bought back then, as well as the graphic novel books. I might need to read through them again, nostalgia is calling.

  • @travislarson9794
    @travislarson9794 Год назад +1

    I have the first four issues done by Viz in America, and up until a couple of years ago had no idea it was done by an Ecchi artist. The only thing I knew was that it was my favorite take on Ash's journey, and the different interpretation of the Pokemon world I was so used to from the games/show. I was always sad I could never find the remaining volumes organically, since they were gifted to me as a child during their original run. I definitely now want to go on a hunt for them, to finish the story.
    Thanks Geoff and Yazzy!

  • @bearerofbadnews1375
    @bearerofbadnews1375 Год назад +4

    10:37 you can skip the gym badges by catching a rare Pokémon that sounds more fun than taking an “ultimate test.” And dealing with bs questions like the Jigglypuff seen from above nonsense.

  • @animesoul479
    @animesoul479 Год назад +14

    Oh man, talk about a trip of nostalgia. I remember my mom bought me a few chapters of this when they were sold at a comic shop we'd come across. Shame my childhood self wasn't the best at taking care of things.

  • @Daikon_Micucci
    @Daikon_Micucci Год назад +2

    13:41 Wow, I just realized how Ash's first League loss mirrored his infamous and recent League win.

  • @kyperactive
    @kyperactive Год назад +1

    A hen(with a)tie mangaka drawing for a kids series? This can only end well 😎

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 Год назад +7

    Thanks you for making us aware if hidden content! You rock!

  • @anactualmango
    @anactualmango Год назад +5

    I absolutely adore everything about these kinds of videos

  • @nomannic1
    @nomannic1 Год назад +1

    Oh my goodness my friend gave me some of this manga in high school, and it was wild to find out the context 🤣 cool vid!

  • @Parisella
    @Parisella Год назад +1

    My mom picked this up for me like, 23 years ago at a Costco. I'LL NEVER FORGET!

  • @Dannyshadows16
    @Dannyshadows16 Год назад +10

    Ahhhh thank you for making more Pokémon content!!

  • @MuffinHunterX
    @MuffinHunterX Год назад +7

    One of the VHS releases I got came with a mini comic version of the first chapter that hadn't been censored. I always found it a little funny later on when I bought the trade version that I got the thirsty one for free.

    • @danielkeslerjr4407
      @danielkeslerjr4407 10 месяцев назад +1

      Ty! I have vivid memories of the uncensored version, and I was really confused.

  • @quinnocent
    @quinnocent Год назад +3

    omg. As a kid, I had a friend tell me secondhand that there was a Pokemon manga out there with pervy parts, but I basically never heard about it again. Growing up, I assumed it was just some apocryphal rumory thing. But this was it.

  • @T0rche
    @T0rche Год назад +2

    I live in Québec, Canada. Most stores here hold both the French and English versions of many products in stock. I remember that the French version of these were the imported versions from France and they were completely uncensored if I remember correctly. They must have been because I remember many of the pages you show in this video.

  • @TheBigbrother1989
    @TheBigbrother1989 Год назад +11

    The best part of this video is the little angry Pikachu face censoring one of Yazzie’s figurines the entire time they were discussing censorship 😅

    • @mst3kharris
      @mst3kharris Год назад +3

      I finally noticed that and spent the rest of the video wondering about the figurine 😆

    • @RPTRxCrosshairs
      @RPTRxCrosshairs Год назад +2

      "Figurine"

  • @AlphalanceVO
    @AlphalanceVO Год назад +24

    I loved the scifi in these comics and how built out the league system felt with ranks and training. Could have enjoyed a whole series of this style though obviously they didn't need to change anything to make Pokemon successful lol

  • @Mario_Angel_Medina
    @Mario_Angel_Medina Год назад +2

    From now on, in my headcanon Ash's pikachu's full name will forever be Jean-Luc Pikachu

  • @SneakyBeaky430
    @SneakyBeaky430 Год назад

    What a wild thing I had no idea about, awesome video!

  • @williamduncan6691
    @williamduncan6691 Год назад +9

    Holy shit this is a nostalgia blast. I had one of the original uncensored versions of this with Jesse and all. That awakened something.

  • @KrystineBrown
    @KrystineBrown Год назад +7

    I remember when they released this in comic issues in the us. I was really into how the technology worked, like the tms and the transportation devices.

  • @GabrielCosta-si9nq
    @GabrielCosta-si9nq Год назад +2

    Seeing both of you taking center stage in a video is so incredibly refreshing! I love how you two bounce off of each other's presentation style. Would love to see more!

  • @AlexisRoyce
    @AlexisRoyce Год назад

    Nice to see you talking about that manga! I think that was the first time I ever tried to emulate an artist's style. There was just something so DIFFERENT and LIVELY about it... 🤔