The Pokémon Manga They Want You To Forget

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  • Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
  • To celebrate the end of Ash Ketchum's quarter-century journey, let's look back at that time Nintendo and Game Freak let an "H" Manga artist adapt the Pokémon anime. Even if they'd rather you forget it.
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  • @mothersbasement
    @mothersbasement  Год назад +448

    Give YOUR Mons a winning edge with Gamersupps (also you could drink it I guess): gamersupps.gg/basement
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    • @Joao-Skug
      @Joao-Skug Год назад +2

      Would you consider cover the Festival of Champions doujinshi? it's the best pokemon manga ever!

    • @mahiru20ten
      @mahiru20ten Год назад

      The mangaka would later do G-On Riders, which is his only work to be made into an anime.

    • @bensoncheung2801
      @bensoncheung2801 Год назад

      111 👍

    • @TacComControl
      @TacComControl Год назад

      ...You stuffed an entire Gamersupps shaker in your pubis mons? Now THERE'S a viral video waiting to happen.

    • @warlordhax5995
      @warlordhax5995 Год назад

      The amount of drink i spit out at anal justice

  • @gota7738
    @gota7738 Год назад +1849

    5:20 "Definitely darker than the anime"
    In the other areas probably, but the Rocket Trio has Jessie being orphaned as a child, living a life of poverty followed by a string of failed jobs leading to a life of crime, James came from a controlling family and ran away from home to escape an arranged abusive marriage, while Meowth was abandoned as a kitten to the streets, beaten up regularly for stealing food, taught himself to talk and walk to impress Meowzie who laughed at him and called him a freak.
    Even Brock had the issue with being left by his irresponsible parents to raise his siblings which is implied to be the cause of his love complex, looking for a partner who could help raise a family.
    Honestly would be super down for a Takeshi Shudo novels and visions breakdown.

    • @MrGksarathy
      @MrGksarathy Год назад +163

      Agreed. The anime has some pretty dark shit that could have gone somewhere. I mean, even Misty has to deal with her semi-abusive older sisters.

    • @Snake4985
      @Snake4985 Год назад +87

      And her mom was orphaned because she was a Team Rocket member who disappeared while searching for Mew

    • @antonioscendrategattico2302
      @antonioscendrategattico2302 Год назад +32

      Takeshi Shudo was definitely an interesting author. Definitely too free and with too much interesting shit to say for a profitable mass appeal franchise to tolerate.

    • @MrGksarathy
      @MrGksarathy Год назад +18

      @@Snake4985 The worst part is that Jessie's mom is apparently still alive and even sending reports.

    • @Snake4985
      @Snake4985 Год назад +7

      @@MrGksarathy Is she? I didn't see anything about that on Bulbapedia

  • @caveirainvocada9438
    @caveirainvocada9438 Год назад +1799

    Weird stuff aside, they way he drew Jesse and James as a couple is incredibly cute

    • @InoriVoid
      @InoriVoid Год назад +7

      real

    • @ahmadmalaki8364
      @ahmadmalaki8364 Год назад +26

      And i love how Meowth is there like
      He he look at them together as a married couple
      How frickin stupid

    • @wizardski2320
      @wizardski2320 Год назад +15

      Hold on, I always assumed they were a couple in the show back in the days.

    • @ahmadmalaki8364
      @ahmadmalaki8364 Год назад +16

      @@wizardski2320 you can still think that

  • @everforward5561
    @everforward5561 Год назад +5604

    The censorship they had to do was pretty insane. I remember when the mangaka had an omake about the time he accidentally sent his adult work to Nintendo instead of the pokemon pages.

    • @RazielTheUnborn
      @RazielTheUnborn Год назад +324

      Lmao damn

    • @Ordoabchao-x9k
      @Ordoabchao-x9k Год назад +48

      Kek

    • @JaceAce22
      @JaceAce22 Год назад +180

      That sounds like a nightmare

    • @skootz24
      @skootz24 Год назад +488

      Oh god. That's like "accidentally sending mom your lewds" levels of spooky.

    • @LA.20
      @LA.20 Год назад +66

      Explains how they are now changing the character designs, to more adult type.

  • @NotSoMax
    @NotSoMax Год назад +679

    I like to imagine an alternate universe where the main Pokémon universe was like this, a little darker, a bit more realistic designs for the Pokémon, and the characters actually getting to grow up and move on. Like imagine if every generation we got completely new cast and just saw our old characters occasionally intersect with the new characters and their adventures but as older more accomplished trainers.

    • @RadeticDaniel
      @RadeticDaniel Год назад +36

      that's the other manga he covered in the video cited in the beginning
      one character for each game and stories flip protagonists as the game cycles come and go

    • @jefinathariwirza6578
      @jefinathariwirza6578 Год назад +33

      That just the "pokemon adventure" manga

    • @eyesightc.o3016
      @eyesightc.o3016 Год назад +13

      Like JoJo

    • @ChangedMyNameFinally69
      @ChangedMyNameFinally69 Год назад

      A little darker but this manga does go into some weird places IMO, realistic designs? Nah

    • @BeingOfEvil0
      @BeingOfEvil0 Год назад +1

      Pokemon adventure lol

  • @nirman423
    @nirman423 Год назад +7066

    The weirdest thing about Jessy and James getting together to me is that Jessy is the one preggers rather than James.

    • @paulj6805
      @paulj6805 Год назад +796

      I want to argue that point but I know exactly what you mean.

    • @Syncrotron9001
      @Syncrotron9001 Год назад +425

      Clearly one of them has been "blasting off"

    • @bearerofbadnews1375
      @bearerofbadnews1375 Год назад +180

      Hold up is this in the anime or the manga. I thought Jessy and James were gonna be RUclipsrs and podcasters at least that’s what I saw in the anime.

    • @NeedyBoBeedy
      @NeedyBoBeedy Год назад +20

      @@bearerofbadnews1375 why

    • @Future_Vantas
      @Future_Vantas Год назад +264

      @@NeedyBoBeedy I think its a reference to that one anime episode where James crossdresses with some very convincing boobs

  • @OmniOtaku
    @OmniOtaku Год назад +276

    I had these mangas. I loved how they portrayed how TMs are used by cracked one in half and putting both halves on each side of a Pokémon’s head while it basically downloads the move data into their brain.

    • @noranizaazmi6523
      @noranizaazmi6523 Год назад +26

      As a kid, I thought that they put those TMs into TM players and then let the pokemon watch it 😅

    • @andieallison6792
      @andieallison6792 Год назад

      TM?

    • @OmniOtaku
      @OmniOtaku Год назад +2

      @@andieallison6792 Technical Machine

    • @N12015
      @N12015 Год назад +5

      @@noranizaazmi6523 Which is how it works since gen 5.

    • @jobah619
      @jobah619 2 дня назад

      Whitesnake:

  • @Gooberjoovies
    @Gooberjoovies Год назад +1190

    I don't know how, but after buying the first comic at a fucking flea market, I somehow convinced my mom to get new chapters sent to me BY MAIL from Viz Media, and boy howdy I think the more dangerous piece of media to ever enter my hands wasn't the comic itself, but Viz's goddamn catalog, where an impressionable 10 year old got an eyeful of a full page splash ad of Asuka in a plugsuit advertising Evangelion...

    • @mothersbasement
      @mothersbasement  Год назад +415

      Oh man I remember those EVA manga ads. All that censorship work went to waste in an instant

    • @KrytenKoro
      @KrytenKoro Год назад +66

      I REMEMBER THAT EXACT COVER

    • @eropandasennin13
      @eropandasennin13 Год назад +110

      "Oh man, I hope this doesn't awaken something inside of me"

    • @raidnoir8691
      @raidnoir8691 Год назад +17

      @@KrytenKoro link?

    • @ladynikkie
      @ladynikkie Год назад +27

      You want to know what's crazy. I actually found these books at a dollar store. When I was a kid they came in a pack of four comic books. I actually went to my local comic book store and found a few of these books.

  • @Haysey_Draws
    @Haysey_Draws Год назад +712

    One thing you can never take away from Hentai artists, they can draw some amazing dynamic posing.

    • @Guciom
      @Guciom Год назад +109

      You can't be succesful in drawing porn without knowing your anatomy.

    • @MatameVideos
      @MatameVideos 10 месяцев назад +29

      ​@@GuciomBut they also get super creative with the perspective

    • @AoiUsagiOtoko
      @AoiUsagiOtoko 10 месяцев назад +44

      it always confused me that the stereotype of hentai artists is that they're bad artists in a technical sense, because that's never been my experience. horny artists are usually pretty good artists, or at the very least artists that love what they do. they're having fun, and you can tell (in a sincere way lol this wasn't just a "lol horny" joke)

    • @_aWiseMan
      @_aWiseMan 2 дня назад +4

      ​@@AoiUsagiOtokothere's also the fact many skilled artists end up going down the rabbit hole of being forced to do NSFW commissions until it becomes their brand

  • @cardboardtubeknight
    @cardboardtubeknight Год назад +1919

    Never forget what they took from us.

  • @Roll-Penut
    @Roll-Penut Год назад +562

    Fun fact, this manga artist also did a magic the gathering manga that has NEVER been officially translated (or unofficially to my knowledge) to English

    • @peterbraunschweig2779
      @peterbraunschweig2779 Год назад +19

      Wait, there's more than one MTG manga? Because I know there's one that's been translated and seems to be semi-official.

    • @mot6376
      @mot6376 Год назад +11

      @@peterbraunschweig2779 indeed it was a one volume series titled MAGIC URZA & MISHRA and covers the first 14 chapters of the original novel

    • @twenty-fifth420
      @twenty-fifth420 Год назад +5

      ⁠​⁠@@mot6376 I actually read it, and the book its ‘based’ on.. The manga was pretty good but that was so long ago.
      Also ironically one of the best MTG material considering the gambit for books.

    • @spuhgetti
      @spuhgetti Год назад +6

      @@peterbraunschweig2779 theres a magic the gathering manga called Destroy All Humankind. They Can't Be Regenerated

    • @noobium5333
      @noobium5333 Год назад +2

      @@spuhgetti do not look at the authors other works ☠

  • @U1TR4F0RCE
    @U1TR4F0RCE Год назад +710

    I will say the whole thing of the natural world of Pokemon is definitely something that was a big part of the appeal of Pokemon Snap. As well as in Adventures the whole gym leaders having sets of team based on how many badges they have.

    • @trident042
      @trident042 Год назад +16

      If anything, I feel like this is a missed opportunity for the game franchise in its major releases as well. A disappointment I have both in X/Y as well as Scarlet/Violet, is that they show you different ways trainers can live their lives, but then for X/Y they're like "no you gotta do the 'be the best like no one ever was' method" and for S/V they just go "lol no you gotta do all of em."
      I would love a main series game where there is equal importance given to taking a track where you only fill out the 'dex, or go for champion status, or fight the evil gang war, or breed and care for rare species. And each could have its own story, encouraging you to potentially offload mons from one save file (you know, if Home ever works) and start fresh!

    • @MrGksarathy
      @MrGksarathy Год назад +11

      @@trident042 I mean, Legends Arceus definitely fulfilled some of that. Cataloguing Pokémon behaviors at a time when not very much was known about them in a wild, dangerous land is the main draw of the game.

    • @ExeErdna
      @ExeErdna Год назад +4

      @@MrGksarathy They had something gold there and went RIGHT back to status quo...

    • @MrGksarathy
      @MrGksarathy Год назад +3

      @@ExeErdna Don't disagree with you, even if SV does make an honest effort at more emotional, character-based storytelling. That, and it somehow plays worse than PLA in terms of actually catching Pokémon.

  • @GogglesVonAwesome
    @GogglesVonAwesome Год назад +1067

    I actually had some of the early editions of the manga before they edited them for reprints and as a 11 year old kid I was like "why are her boobs like that??? why are some of these outfits so weird???" I would only learn that Ono was an H artist years later as an adult. I remember as a middle school girl thinking his art was actually quite pretty, if only he didn't draw such odd outfits and torpedo breasts.

    • @Nel_Annette
      @Nel_Annette Год назад +179

      I will never forget my dad thumbing through one of the issues (he loved comic art), and looking at me and asking "you're sure this is for kids your age?" XD

    • @LeviathanRX
      @LeviathanRX Год назад +25

      Was gonna say because I remember the horny in the english version

    • @williambarnes5023
      @williambarnes5023 Год назад +88

      "Are you sure this is for kids your age?"
      "Well, she's like ten, so it better not be for people YOUR age..."

    • @RealBullbear
      @RealBullbear Год назад +10

      @@williambarnes5023💯

    • @KarIiah
      @KarIiah Год назад +13

      Torpedo breasts, lmao I can't-

  • @kamuyking551
    @kamuyking551 Год назад +22

    that first "hey twerp" in James's voice during the sponsor segment was actually really spot on... holy shit.

  • @tyrosinetek
    @tyrosinetek Год назад +248

    As someone who was 4 when Star Trek: The Next Generation went off the air, I would have immediately gotten the Jean Luc Pikachu joke. My dad was a massive Star Trek fan and between his long work hours and long commute, it was one of the few things I got to do with him.

    • @halycon404
      @halycon404 Год назад +5

      I miss when Star Trek was aspirational and something that could be shown to a kid. The old stuff had morals and life lessons about how to treat people with respect and dignity. It drilled down into some pretty deep philosophical questions at times. Things people should think about.

    • @jy3n2
      @jy3n2 Год назад +2

      @@halycon404 Good news: now there's one that's explicitly written for kids, so you don't have to worry about explaining why Quark, Worf, and Jadzia are so happy to have multiple fractures.

  • @damienhailey118
    @damienhailey118 Год назад +31

    This is what I loved about Ono's manga. It wasn't afraid to go deeper, go farther, reach into implications of the world the games and anime set up without going too dark.

  • @torch-bearer9129
    @torch-bearer9129 Год назад +57

    This was actually one of the first Manga I ever read and subsequently became the reason my grandmother banned manga from her house

  • @MidgarMerc
    @MidgarMerc Год назад +307

    12 year old me learned a lot about himself from seeing Misty in her gym swimsuit.

    • @realjoemavro
      @realjoemavro Год назад +41

      Misty had that effect on all of us.

    • @mrinfinite5772
      @mrinfinite5772 Год назад +2

      ayo fr?

    • @lordgeneralmilitantdeezy7550
      @lordgeneralmilitantdeezy7550 Год назад +1

      @@realjoemavroamen

    • @N12015
      @N12015 Год назад +15

      ​@@realjoemavro All of the ones who started on gen 1. I'm too young to have grew in gen 1 with my first game being Platinum, which... did not awoke anything in me because the regular girls were oddly modest, and while Candice is cute she was not that relevant.
      If it was any game it would ge Black/White in good part due to Ohmura's work, from the Waitress to Nursery aide to the Scientists to Nurse to Ranger to Office worker to Medium to backers to Smasher to lady Elesa to ace trainer to to Shauntal and Caitlin and SPECIALLY SKYLA. You notice girls suddenly are now... very cute due to how Ohmura tends to draw. Even YOUR MOM is kinda sexy.
      Then X/Y arrived, with polished and beautiful artwork draws that were showed up-close to the player, which I imagine it awoke a lot of things with Viola and Corrina, as well as maybe the lass, ace trainer, sightseer, lady, roller skater, furisode girls, rangers, battle girls, those tanned blonde swimmers in particular and... you get the idea. Imagine having 14 years when seeing it... Yeah, sometimes both the games and the manga play with the limits.
      I honestly cannot pretend I dislike that art direction at all, even if kinda fanservice-heavy.

    • @realjoemavro
      @realjoemavro Год назад +3

      @@N12015
      Okay, but answer this; Bea or Melony? Your answer will let me know if you are a true man of culture.

  • @alicethemad1613
    @alicethemad1613 Год назад +640

    “Wait, you guys were straight?”
    I had the exact same question. The only possible explanation is they’re each other’s beards, there is no heterosexual explanation for team rocket.

    • @Alias_Anybody
      @Alias_Anybody Год назад +95

      I mean they could just be into multiple things. Men, women, mechs, Pokémon, ...

    • @MrGksarathy
      @MrGksarathy Год назад +133

      It wasn't that gay. I mean it was pretty gay, but it was pretty straight too. Maybe we could say it was super bi?
      Also, Jessie and James were the only legit ship in any anime-related media.

    • @TysonRex37
      @TysonRex37 Год назад +108

      Oh they were obviously both Bi

    • @nibblitman
      @nibblitman Год назад +68

      You can be strait and fabulous and at least in this manga they clearly are.

    • @cj-hw3pv
      @cj-hw3pv Год назад

      They gave me, "id fuck anyone in this league vibes" super bi

  • @_Hero_Link_
    @_Hero_Link_ 6 дней назад +4

    That Misty in the thumbnail is Never 10 Years Old💀

  • @VanessaVersus
    @VanessaVersus Год назад +9

    Look, Jesse and James are the original T4T couple; of course they were always going to end up together

  • @MrInuhanyou123
    @MrInuhanyou123 Год назад +590

    Man I remember this Pokemon manga in the 90s. Felt actually way more interesting than what Pokemon turned into 😂

    • @comyuse9103
      @comyuse9103 Год назад +17

      we got the worst possible timelime when it comes to pokemon

    • @piens51
      @piens51 Год назад +5

      What you remember likely is specal manga. It's still going.

    • @midknightshade330
      @midknightshade330 Год назад +3

      @@comyuse9103 eh I wouldn’t go that far.

    • @chaserseven2886
      @chaserseven2886 Год назад +1

      not really

    • @CM_684
      @CM_684 Год назад +1

      @@midknightshade330 fair point. One of the worst, you never know how worse the worst could be.

  • @the_godbodor7026
    @the_godbodor7026 Год назад +21

    I had no clue this manga is where Black Fog is from. I remember watching the Starter Squad RUclips series and seeing the Haunter take that form. It’s part of the reason Haunter is my favorite character in that series and knowing the actual story behind the creature now, the og Black Fog sounds sick as hell!

    • @yellow_9997
      @yellow_9997 Год назад

      yooo i havent hear about Starter squad in years

    • @the_godbodor7026
      @the_godbodor7026 Год назад

      @yellow_9997 Probably because of how long uploads take, they haven’t really made any more episodes in years. I still remember because me and my friends quote it constantly or play the Rock Smasher song every now and then to this day

  • @SecretIdentityStudio
    @SecretIdentityStudio Год назад +271

    I always liked Magical Pokémon Journey/PiPiPi Adventure, the cutesy shoujo one nobody else remembers.

    • @lowtech42
      @lowtech42 Год назад +7

      I remember that one!!! Thank you for unlocking this innocent childhood memory after seeing this video lol

    • @NoelHasFeathers
      @NoelHasFeathers Год назад +5

      same!!! the story is so low stakes and cute

    • @Tenko72
      @Tenko72 Год назад +7

      I loved that one! I'm sad the ending never released in the USA in English. Only Singapore. And no one in Singapore is selling it. I can't even find spoilers for the ending, because the fans in other countries aren't posting it. Bulbapedia doesn't have it! This series was my BL awakening, because I shipped Pikachu and Clefairy hard. I actually like how this series went all the way with its shojo logic with love triangles and then some involving everyone. Hazel's rival is a male Squirtle! It's the best most nuts thing ever! Koume/Apricot was my favorite character, which is especially sad, since the USA releases didn't get to the chapter with her. I had to rely on a scanlation.

    • @GoddoDoggo
      @GoddoDoggo Год назад +7

      No I LOVE PiPiPi adventure! That manga is the reason I started naming all of my Pokemon after food in the games!

    • @GoddoDoggo
      @GoddoDoggo Год назад +3

      @@Tenko72 If you mean the ending of the Hazel/Almond storyline, if I recall I think Hazel goes looking for Mew/Mewtwo to grant her wish for Almond to love her, but Almond follows her and ends up telling her it was pointless because he loved her the whole time. Then it just sort of ends? And there are a few bonus chapters. Honestly, it was a little anticlimactic, not the best romance plot, but I only read it for cuteness anyway. :D

  • @galaxa13
    @galaxa13 Год назад +324

    OK, I have a friend who read this and all she ever told me about it was how hot Professor Oak was and how there were boobs everywhere. I thought that this manga was just a gross cash grab, but your video has convinced me it might actually have some good story even if the art may be questionable.

    • @kadosho02
      @kadosho02 Год назад +26

      The art is excellent, it takes on a different form of the games and anime. Totally worth exploring

    • @TheRoleplayer40k
      @TheRoleplayer40k Год назад

      'Questionable' American prude detected

    • @ItzaMystri
      @ItzaMystri Год назад +6

      Yeah it's actually really good, it was my favorite as a kid especially as a team rocket fan

    • @Zinyak12345
      @Zinyak12345 Год назад +8

      Upon hearing about lewd content, you assume cash grab? What's wrong with lewd stuff?

    • @SlimeBlueMS
      @SlimeBlueMS Год назад +9

      Unless boobs offend you, there's no reason to ignore this book

  • @JohnnyBsKillz115
    @JohnnyBsKillz115 Год назад +261

    This is a trip down memory lane. these were some of my favorite manga...
    Edit: HOLY SHIT IT WENT ON FOR HOW LONG?!?!
    looks like in going to be looking up the series... I had 3 or 4 volumes as a kid. Definitely spent too much time on the water gym fight.

    • @denjismissingnut2222
      @denjismissingnut2222 Год назад +1

      What's the name of the manga series? The art for the Pokemon looks sick

    • @Deimos_the_Autist
      @Deimos_the_Autist Год назад +1

      How many issues were there I keep only finding 1-4 at least of uncut English versions

    • @DigimonAdventure2001
      @DigimonAdventure2001 Год назад +2

      ​@@denjismissingnut2222 The Electric Tale of Pikachu

  • @Scorpiofrfr
    @Scorpiofrfr Год назад +86

    Why would the Company want people to forget this manga? It sounds like a masterpiece. It would add a more adult demographic to their costumers.

    • @ChangedMyNameFinally69
      @ChangedMyNameFinally69 Год назад +14

      Because that's not really what Pokemon is

    • @thunderousavenger2382
      @thunderousavenger2382 Год назад +8

      ​@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 it should be tho.
      If there were more darker themed media id love this series.
      It has far too much potential but its all wasted to purely focus on the kiddo audience.
      A shame.

    • @ChangedMyNameFinally69
      @ChangedMyNameFinally69 Год назад +11

      @@thunderousavenger2382 My dude they're silly cartoon animals, one is a literal psychic duck that acts like an idiot. Named Psyduck. Can you imagine one of these killing or eating someone? There's nothing wrong with liking media made for kids dude. I'm not the hugest fan of how Care Bears saccharine the franchise can get at times when even Disney movies are darker, but the other direction often comes off as cringey and immature in its own right. See Pokemon Insurgence or Rocket Edition if you want examples of how attempts to make Pokemon needlessly dark can come off as silly. Delve into darker stuff yes, but curses, violence, political discussion and sex all look ridiculous when put in a world where they let ten year olds run into the wild to catch colorful magical animals with magic balls.

    • @thunderousavenger2382
      @thunderousavenger2382 Год назад +1

      @@ChangedMyNameFinally69 you hit the mark on the spot.
      Silly cartoon animals.
      Aimed at kids.
      Thats why i desire a more realistic depection of said cartoon animals towards a more mature audience.
      And i did play the romhacks you mentioned already.
      There is big potential but it wont happen.
      Because again. This stuff is aimed at kids. And it will stay aimed at kids.

    • @ChangedMyNameFinally69
      @ChangedMyNameFinally69 Год назад

      @@thunderousavenger2382 A desire for something to be mature just for its own sake is its own form of immaturity. And it just doesn't work with a franchise so conceptually silly like Pokemon, even Sonic or Transformers are only silly in their worldbuilding, their concepts are standard hero fantasies. But Pokemon's concept is about beating up magical creatures so you can stuff them into little balls and make them fight other creatures, and then you gotta fight eight guys so you can fight five more guys and become the nebulous title of Champion. You fight villains but mostly out of circumstance. Couple that with the silly designs and it'd feel stupid to try to pair that up with adult concepts beyond what you might find in a summer blockbuster or Shonen anime, if even because those can get pretty violent and sexual themselves. Even Adventures doesn't get that dark.
      Why do you think you're entitled to completely changing the franchise anyway? All you're doing is alienating Pokemon's mass appeal and completely locking it away for a new generation to enjoy. Contrary to what y'all think there's kids growing up with the new generations too, plenty fans I've seen that grew up with gens 4, 5 and 6. It's pretty selfish to hoard this idea and make it solely catered to your tastes because you can't move on or accept Pokemon as it is.

  • @darienb1127
    @darienb1127 Год назад +10

    I never knew that this Manga had this interesting worldbuilding to it. I love to think about what living with Pokemon would actually be like. And I think it gets even more interesting when you bring in the Mons that are more than just a wild animal. A lot of those debates bring out the Harkness Test very quickly, but I think that still has a lot of intersting merit to it. I'm not mad that it's not explored more (Pokemon is going for something else with its world), but I think there's still so much there.

  • @TurtleChad1
    @TurtleChad1 Год назад +146

    This manga will be remembered for generations for being remembered for generations

  • @Marinealver
    @Marinealver Год назад +10

    I remember a certain Pokémon Trainer Card only in Japan that had a Trainer holding a Starme and not wearing any clothes.

  • @torgan
    @torgan Год назад +107

    Oh God, the years of JWittz videos are flooding my mind right now. I really did forget this manga existed.

    • @SolstaceWinters
      @SolstaceWinters Год назад

      Now there's a name I've not heard in many a year.

  • @Daikon_Micucci
    @Daikon_Micucci Год назад +3

    13:41 Wow, I just realized how Ash's first League loss mirrored his infamous and recent League win.

  • @thehopeofeden597
    @thehopeofeden597 Год назад +42

    The censorship and ecchi aside, some of the actual battle art in this manga is insanely good, and the ending of the Indigo League is like 20 times more satisfying than the original. I’m glad people are talking about it!

    • @sooners2037
      @sooners2037 Год назад

      The league was handled a lot better for example both Brock and Misty battle in the league and lose in the opening round. Richie is introduced a lot earlier and beats Gary in the 4th round. Ash Vs Richie has no Team Rocket crap in it. Thought the Squirtle call is still in it Squirtle ties happy. Ash and Richie both use Charziard as their last Pokémon. The end of their battle was handled better than the Anime. Richie’s Charziard is about to be killed by Ash’s and his pokeball malfunctions so Ash calls his back and forfeits the battle (he technically was going to win but didn’t want the guilt of killing a Pokémon in the league) he leaves the stadium which is what causes the forfeit. He still wins the Orange Island match against Drake. We don’t see what happens to Richie after his match with Ash (the anime he loses in the quarterfinals in ETOP it’s unknown)

  • @meteor22
    @meteor22 Год назад +6

    I really loved this manga. I just happened to stumble upon it as a kid and fell in love with it's art style. It was also different and a little more serious in it's story telling when compared to the anime which hooked me even more so. That Giant Haunter story arc is what I remember 1st when I think of this Pokemon manga.

  • @ValkyrieTiara
    @ValkyrieTiara Год назад +110

    I definitely think there would be a market for an unflipped, uncensored, retranslated two volume version of this manga. Hell you could even make them limited edition or something. I DON'T think NoA would actually go for that, but it would be cool very cool.

    • @wiiztec
      @wiiztec Год назад +4

      Someone's had to have done it in Photoshop by now right just take the original Japanese version white out all the speech bubbles and paste in the translations, oh and a little bit of actual translation work for the cut pages

    • @mon573r6
      @mon573r6 Год назад

      "a market for"
      It would be a best seller...lol

  • @FireLight_Zero
    @FireLight_Zero Год назад +85

    Imagine if we got this guy back for a Xenoblade Chronicles 2 manga..
    Edit: Place your bets now, how many chapters/issues of this rhetorical Manga would pass until it was heavily implied that Pyra and/or Mythra took Rex to the bone zone?

    • @Alias_Anybody
      @Alias_Anybody Год назад +10

      That... actually makes way too much sense.

    • @liamruiz3196
      @liamruiz3196 Год назад +3

      I need MothersBase to make a video about xenoblade 2

    • @manaphy1007
      @manaphy1007 Год назад +14

      0 because it's already cannon

    • @FireLight_Zero
      @FireLight_Zero Год назад +3

      @manaphy100 got me there! Pretty sure that photograph surprised the hell out of everyone..

    • @StevenUlyssesPerhero
      @StevenUlyssesPerhero Год назад +4

      Blade Resonance/Bond levels are a free pass to jump to it pretty much immediately.

  • @call_me_maple
    @call_me_maple Год назад +5

    Here's hoping this video pushes someone to continue the uncensored translations, we've got vol 1 and 2 but 3 and 4 haven't been touched, it's been long enough I think.

  • @Racecarlock
    @Racecarlock Год назад +11

    Nothing like going straight from gigguk's video about "My Life as Inukai-san's Dog" to this one.

  • @dylanahern7039
    @dylanahern7039 7 месяцев назад +2

    Original Yu-Gi-Oh manga: Look what they need to mimic a fraction of our power.

  • @blksteve11
    @blksteve11 Год назад +19

    Geoff, I think I may pick up reading manga again thanks to this. Seriously, I pulled this up on my phone. I forgot how much I loved reading the manga versions of all the anime i used to watch as a kid and how much darker and expanded they all are. Thank you, wonderful video as always!

  • @AnonEcho98
    @AnonEcho98 Год назад +1

    Anyone else having problems where the video just suddenly stops at random intervals, forcing me to jump over a couple of seconds?

  • @jcam5
    @jcam5 Год назад +36

    I had all the issues with this manga in my youth. It was awesome. I'll never forget that one issue with the orange islands brother and sister.

  • @charleshardesty1828
    @charleshardesty1828 Год назад +4

    17:32 This is such a confusing statement. While I agree with the censorship sentiment, I don't think that having huge unrealistic boobs is a requirement for being "hot"

  • @TheBigbrother1989
    @TheBigbrother1989 Год назад +12

    The best part of this video is the little angry Pikachu face censoring one of Yazzie’s figurines the entire time they were discussing censorship 😅

    • @mst3kharris
      @mst3kharris Год назад +3

      I finally noticed that and spent the rest of the video wondering about the figurine 😆

    • @RPTRxCrosshairs
      @RPTRxCrosshairs Год назад +2

      "Figurine"

  • @bbrbbr-on2gd
    @bbrbbr-on2gd Год назад +3

    This is the one! This is the one I grew up on! I love this version of the Pokemon world, it feels genuinely lived in. I desperately want an open world game with this level of care and lore put into it. Where the Mon's are actually animals that live in the world and have their own habitats.
    I have a few issues of this series still. I've been wanting to buy the entire series for sometime now. Thanks for this awesome video!

  • @jaybeans981
    @jaybeans981 Год назад +20

    It's weird learning later on that before this, the mangaka also did a manga for Barcode Fighter for Corocoro, based on a real-life game system where you scan barcodes of items to fight, and then just decided to write an excellent trans character IN 1992 which he then did doujin sequels with

    • @TJF588
      @TJF588 Год назад +4

      I could not have expect this triangulated intersection of Things I'm Aware Of, but I am now deathly curious.

    • @jaybeans981
      @jaybeans981 Год назад +1

      Amilee Doree did a whole video on it. Search for “The Wild Barcode Battling Trans Rights Mecha Shonen & Its Doujin Sequels”

    • @DrewBlue32
      @DrewBlue32 Год назад +1

      Wait what? What is it called????

    • @jaybeans981
      @jaybeans981 Год назад

      See my other reply @@DrewBlue32

    • @slime_ism
      @slime_ism Год назад

      @@DrewBlue32 just called Barcode Fighter. If you google Barcode Fighter Corocoro manga its easy to find

  • @yukaiyami
    @yukaiyami Год назад +3

    My father once left for two weeks on a work trip (this was back when phones weren’t that common and internet was kinda bad) and since it was a longer than normal trip,he brought back this very Pokemon manga for me as an apology. The censored version, of course. I thought I invented this thing because I couldn’t find it for decades later. Only browsing the internet did I learn it was meant to be super ecchi and no, I didn’t imagine it in a sugar high or something… It was cute enough and it’s officially the very first manga of anything I ever owned. I still known “Pikapi” translated directly to “Ash/Satoshi” thanks to it. I still don’t know what happened to it… Maybe it got lost in a move…

  • @AssaulteedOne
    @AssaulteedOne Год назад +3

    Oh yeah! This was the pack-in with the first volume of the Pokémon anime on VHS! The VHS sleeve had the first chapter as a printed booklet packed in - always wondered if that ran for longer than that 1 chapter. Nice to know it actually had an ending of sorts & was pretty unique throughout.

  • @herofire97
    @herofire97 Год назад +3

    at 10:50 when the clefairy ritual came on screen my brother said they're a cult and we nearly died of laughter

  • @madambutterfly1997
    @madambutterfly1997 Год назад +10

    That jelly filled donuts bit is still unforgivable

  • @Taku7Green
    @Taku7Green Год назад +1

    dengeki pikachu is my absolute favorite piece of pokémon media, I'm so happy that is getting the attention that its deserve
    great job MB!

  • @shan6872
    @shan6872 Год назад +10

    7:45 AYO WTF

  • @WilliamSyler
    @WilliamSyler 5 месяцев назад +1

    The comparison you show at 16:39 solidifies for me that I had some of the originals, cause I *remember those*. Explains a lot about me now.

  • @egsauce2911
    @egsauce2911 Год назад +51

    Great video, you two! I loved that Yazzy got to put her two cents in the mix!
    I know filming & uploading schedules are a pain but I have missed her content. Love her cadence & way of explaining stuff.

    • @mothersbasement
      @mothersbasement  Год назад +22

      Yeah she’s the best! She’ll hopefully be doing some more manga reviews soon

  • @tespenkr9924
    @tespenkr9924 Год назад +9

    The Mangas do too good of a job making the Lavender Town Tower scary. From zombified pokemon to this godly Haunter.

  • @animesoul479
    @animesoul479 Год назад +14

    Oh man, talk about a trip of nostalgia. I remember my mom bought me a few chapters of this when they were sold at a comic shop we'd come across. Shame my childhood self wasn't the best at taking care of things.

  • @JabrielTimeline
    @JabrielTimeline Год назад +10

    I'm pretty upset now. The only thing I've ever heard about this manga was how ecchi it is, this and that, but never how well thought it actually is. The interpretation of the Pokémon world in a very acurate way, how interesting is the league system, how well writen the characters are, etc...
    It is really one of the "came for the hot, stayed for the plot" kind and now I want more of it.

  • @N0V4C4T
    @N0V4C4T Год назад +1

    All's these years later I find out I had the first 3 magazines for the "weird" pokemon manga. The more you know I guess. great video, very enlightening.

  • @AlphalanceVO
    @AlphalanceVO Год назад +25

    I loved the scifi in these comics and how built out the league system felt with ranks and training. Could have enjoyed a whole series of this style though obviously they didn't need to change anything to make Pokemon successful lol

  • @isitleeyourelookingfor6352
    @isitleeyourelookingfor6352 Год назад +2

    "Wait, you guys were straight???"
    SCREAMING
    True though

  • @7StringBlazer
    @7StringBlazer Год назад +10

    Oh man the memories. I loved this manga and Pokemon Adventures and the liberties they took with the characters and world building. I think in the long run when I got older and was looking for something deeper, the mainline squeaky clean Pokemon made me resent it. Seeing Ritchie and Gary traveling with the gang and not being one dimensional was also so hype and made me imagine my own adventures after it ended. The road not traveled 🤷🏿

  • @jordanjackson6151
    @jordanjackson6151 Год назад +2

    Whoa! I actually bought a few of these oblivious to its risqué measures. Never saw the naughty issues though.

  • @DrawsWithCubes
    @DrawsWithCubes Год назад +7

    Dude you have been killing it with these recent vids. Keep it up 🙌

  • @tabletopnephilim4633
    @tabletopnephilim4633 Год назад +2

    Didn't the artist specialize in shota yaoi? I remember hearing about that in another video on this manga, I think it was Lost Pause.

  • @Mario_Angel_Medina
    @Mario_Angel_Medina Год назад +2

    From now on, in my headcanon Ash's pikachu's full name will forever be Jean-Luc Pikachu

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 Год назад +7

    Thanks you for making us aware if hidden content! You rock!

  • @Taydar
    @Taydar Год назад +1

    The fact the anime went on for so many tears afterwards continuing to be successful is the proof against and complete destruction of your argument in that video.

  • @vintorezsnayperskaya7582
    @vintorezsnayperskaya7582 Год назад +1

    ...so the old Pokemon manga that I had was this one.

  • @TikkyNoSurname
    @TikkyNoSurname Год назад +7

    That very much reminds me of the original Yu-Gi-Oh Manga and Anime. You know, back when it was darker and not all about that one game, but all kinds of games.

  • @travislarson9794
    @travislarson9794 Год назад +1

    I have the first four issues done by Viz in America, and up until a couple of years ago had no idea it was done by an Ecchi artist. The only thing I knew was that it was my favorite take on Ash's journey, and the different interpretation of the Pokemon world I was so used to from the games/show. I was always sad I could never find the remaining volumes organically, since they were gifted to me as a child during their original run. I definitely now want to go on a hunt for them, to finish the story.
    Thanks Geoff and Yazzy!

  • @Ksintai1
    @Ksintai1 Год назад +6

    Man I loved this manga. The local library had the first 3 volumes when I was a kid, never got to read the rest for years.

  • @cobalt2672
    @cobalt2672 Год назад

    I love how there's "something" in the background of Yazy's room that's so RUclips-unfriendly that it requires her whole section to be censored

  • @xelldincht4251
    @xelldincht4251 Год назад +5

    Something like this would certainly make the stories in the video games more interesting...

  • @kulbrez4884
    @kulbrez4884 Год назад +1

    I wish the Pokémon games were about the nature and study of these Pokémon. The series has really become “animals in the grass that you catch”.
    The closest experience I’ve had to this is in Pokémon Sun and Moon, where you prove yourself by beating Island Trials.
    Pokémon isn’t mysterious anymore. How cool would it be to experience events like the anime? Like seeing a new type of Pokémon evolve for the first time, or stop a crazy one from wrecking a town.

  • @jayjaysink1828
    @jayjaysink1828 Год назад +35

    "You guys are straight" fool boy, when two bisexuals get married it's still gay.

  • @Virtrial
    @Virtrial 3 месяца назад +3

    Nah that Jean Luc Pikachu joke is funny as shit

  • @lonelychameleon3595
    @lonelychameleon3595 Год назад +4

    I remembering inheriting the first four issues from my brother (sold them) and being 9 seeing Misty drawn that way changed me man

  • @Axecon1
    @Axecon1 Год назад +4

    Pokemon Adventures was definitely my favorite series but EToP was a fun read too! Confused the heck out of me as a young child since I thought they were the same series for the longest time and I would read both series out of order because just finding random copies of the books at my library or local bookstore was a treat. I did eventually go back and read Adventures properly when the series got a second edition re-release all the way up to Gen 4. Hope you guys cover Magical Pokemon Journey too, it felt like such a weird mashup of Pokemon and Sailor Moon but was a really fun take on the franchise! Also a manga from that early Pokemon Gen 1/2 era that seems to be lost to time.

  • @mst3kharris
    @mst3kharris Год назад +1

    I would watch so many episodes of Yazzy cheerfully explaining ecchi to a bewildered Geoff.

  • @savagebear4374
    @savagebear4374 Год назад +5

    No I haven't forgotten that one.
    How can I forget something horrible like that.
    What level can I access the uncensored version?

  • @josephberumen6054
    @josephberumen6054 Год назад +2

    I loved this manga. I enjoyed it much more than the anime. Though I must have the first printing of the issues because a lot of the censored redraws aren’t in mine.

  • @GalvatronRodimus
    @GalvatronRodimus Год назад +1

    I literally read this as a kid. Was surprised to find out about the censorship a couple years later.

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 Год назад +5

    Love your content, your wit and humour, they really brighten my day!

  • @Gatorboy5678
    @Gatorboy5678 5 дней назад

    I think that was the first sponsor I’ve seen where I’m entertained throughout 😂

  • @neziak1444
    @neziak1444 Год назад +4

    What is it called? For homework.

    • @Staarzz
      @Staarzz 3 месяца назад +1

      No way I have the same… homework… assignment!

  • @Derrick-si2vu
    @Derrick-si2vu Месяц назад +2

    I've been watching Pokemon and been looking at the manga for a very long time I really hate to see Ash end his journey but just like Yugi from Yu-Gi-Oh had to pass on the torch to Jaden to yusei to Yuma yuya in many other characters from Yu-Gi-Oh but Ash I won't forget about all the adventures he had in the Pokemon world in this manga I actually kind of liked it looking at the electrical tales of Pikachu I'll probably look at it again maybe later some other time put the one thing I wish that I can go back and watch Pokemon in Yu-Gi-Oh all over again including Pokemon and so much more things in the world of anime I actually grown up and even played the video games I just wish I could have went to the Pokemon championship I hate to see my favorite character of Pokemon go but I guess just the way out the story ends isn't it but it was truly an honor to see such a great character go out with one wonderful ending and that's exactly why I love it ❤️🙏😌🙏❤️

  • @GabrielCosta-si9nq
    @GabrielCosta-si9nq Год назад +3

    Seeing both of you taking center stage in a video is so incredibly refreshing! I love how you two bounce off of each other's presentation style. Would love to see more!

  • @Parisella
    @Parisella Год назад +1

    My mom picked this up for me like, 23 years ago at a Costco. I'LL NEVER FORGET!

  • @J_L3687
    @J_L3687 5 месяцев назад +3

    Bro was a man of culture 💀( 7:18 )

  • @themollymachine
    @themollymachine 10 месяцев назад +1

    I got those pokémon comic books first day at my local comic book store in 98.

  • @kyperactive
    @kyperactive Год назад +1

    A hen(with a)tie mangaka drawing for a kids series? This can only end well 😎

  • @LordEpos
    @LordEpos Год назад +5

    I feel like the real Pokemon Manga they really want you to forget is that first one that never got any kind of official English release at all with all of the actual real official art of Red's cock in it.

    • @RaisonLychi
      @RaisonLychi Год назад +3

      Yet Kid Goku got a pass on being naked.

    • @nawab256
      @nawab256 Год назад

      @@RaisonLychi
      Right but kid Goku was being a kid while naked red was trying to fuck. Also, one was drawn by Akira Toriyama, and the other was drawn by a hentai artist. Both artist specialized in different categories, which made one OK and the other one not.

  • @nomannic1
    @nomannic1 Год назад +1

    Oh my goodness my friend gave me some of this manga in high school, and it was wild to find out the context 🤣 cool vid!

  • @alexpatton9786
    @alexpatton9786 Год назад +1

    Bro what?! The plot of only some trainers get no make careers out of training and team rocket used to be “bright eyed trainers” is literally my head canon for my Pokémon day dreams

  • @YourOnlyHero
    @YourOnlyHero Год назад +6

    Video starts at 2:25

  • @bigtiredpotato
    @bigtiredpotato Год назад +1

    God I remember reading this when I was a kid. There were definitely copies that were not censored in Barnes and Nobles lol

  • @wingedmirage4226
    @wingedmirage4226 Год назад +2

    The scene that scarred me as kid was when both Professor Oak and Bill were found “dead”. As in, lying on the ground, eyes open, with blood pooled around their heads.
    Of course they were actually fine (I think Team Rocket had attacked them or something?), but that one particular panel was scary enough to me as a kid that I literally tore out that whole page from my comic.
    Didn’t stop me from enjoying and collecting the rest of the series though lol

  • @Dungeon00X
    @Dungeon00X Год назад +1

    I've actually read a Manga of this! Also, you mentioned this sold a ton of comic books during the crash; which leads me to believe what It'sAGundam said: "Reject Comic Books, Embrace Japanese Manga." I'd suggest his video, but It's kind of self-explanatory.

  • @CHIVALRYALIVE34
    @CHIVALRYALIVE34 Год назад +1

    Dude, I TOTALLY did click on the video to see Misty... but you know what... I was a die hard fan 20ish years ago, (so I was about 7-8) and I remember a panel seeing how TMs were used; by cracking them open and electrically charging each side of a Pokemon's skull to learn a new move... I was too young and too die-hard original show only, that I missed out on something awesome... I'm VERY GLAD THAT I WATCHED THIS EPISODE OF YOU 2 THIS IS MY 1ST ONE..
    THANKS GUYS!!!

  • @paulblart5358
    @paulblart5358 Год назад +1

    Great video. I owned some of the uncensored mangas that came out with the VHS episodes, but my mom got rid of them a long time ago. They would have been worth something today.