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The Legend of Korra and Its Ideological Villains
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- Опубликовано: 16 авг 2024
- In this video essay I take a deeper look at the villains of Avatar: The Legend of Korra and their ideologies and philosophies. Through examining who they are as enemies and how they drive the story forward, there are many lessons we as the viewer can learn from them. This video is an attempt at dissecting and expanding upon those teachings in the context of the world around us.
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I would add that kuvira wanted to unite ALL of of the earth kingdom lands, including the United republic, Which was considered to be unjustly stolen by the avatar and fire lord to create a settler colonial state. Both the earth queen and the kuvira held this belief.
@NoHau
True but he did that against the wishes of his subjects it doesn't change the fact that in order for the United Republic to exist the Fire Nation had to violently seize a portion of EK land and displace the indigenous culture in order for the United Republic to exist.
Zuko in the Promise even dismisses the discrimination Earth people face in the colonies.
Yes and no. The earth queen states that her father willingly gave them that land.
Legend of Korra is a great show and I always thought the villains were some of the best villains ever in a show. Great video!
@Aiden Hartley he failed to realise that bending is genetic. Even if he took away everybody's bending it would've shown up again eventually. I tend to agree with zaheer.
@@slanetroyard92 why i really like the red lotus is because that scene that mako and bolin are caught and bolin starts talking to some red lotus members and instead of ignoring him or something they actually talk to him
Same
@NoHau i do not see iroh as a villian
In my opinion Amon and Zaheer are best villains of the Legend of Korra. Both of them possess powerful charisma and ideology. Unlike Unalaq and Vaatu, these two are more of an antagonist than villain. Amon and Zaheer believes in equality and anarchy respectively. Amon believes existence of bending has caused misfortunes for the world, while Zaheer believes government and rulers prevented people from reaching freedom. They both shows redeeming sides as Amon showed concern for his followers and despite been in a conflict, he still cared deeply for his brother Torrak. Zaheer also cared for his comrades and was deeply upset when his girlfriend P'li was killed. Zaheer also helped Korra to return her connection with spirits. Kuvira was also charismatic but she confused her ambition as patriotism. Also, she showed little to no care for her subordinates as she ruled everybody with an iron fist. She was even willing to sacrifice her fiance, Baatar Jr., even though he abandoned his family for her. Unalaq's motivation for his goal was driven primarily because of his jealousy towards his brother. He framed his brother and drove him out out North Pole and when he heard his brother's daughter was an Avatar, his jealousy reached his climax to the point he would free Vaatu to become Dark Avatar.
I think the best part of LoK and it’s villains, is that nothing is one sided or black and white. Instead of giving us villains and telling us they’re bad or not, the show challenges the morals and beliefs of not only the protagonists, but the audience as well. It makes us question our own views and think about those controversial topics. While Korra being a protagonist and her being against the ideologies of the villains tells us they’re in the wrong, we can’t help but sympathize with the villains to an extent. Because in some aspects, they are right. Benders shouldn’t have an unfair advantage over nonbenders, but you can’t just alienate one side or the other and take away their rights. Zaheer makes a very valid point about corrupt governments with unjust power and control over citizens. But as Korra said, no world leaders lead to riots and uprisings just as in Ba Sing Se. The show presents both sides of the issues and makes us understand each.
Very well put, I agree Korra did an excellent job in portraying its villains as layered and multi-faceted, bringing a lot more to the table than simplistic good vs. evil. Appreciate the insightful comment! ✌️
Avatar: The Last Airbender - Best protagonist
The Legend of Korra - Best villains!
Zuko, Azula, Ozai are way better than Amon, Unalaq, Zaheer and Kuvira
@@secretperson1003 not Ozai, he's kinda just evil, granted he needed to be to challenge aang but he's nothing special.
@@an8strengthkobold360 agreed
@@secretperson1003 Zuko was a terrible villain but a great anti-hero
I wonder how those villains would react, if they were faced against Aang, instead of Korra.
First!
But also Korra's villains are all so good because they have a point and Korra grows as a person by learning from their opposing views but in a more tempered fashion. Ozai was cool and strong and all but he was just fire Hitler. Korra's villains are much more morally grey. Much like Jet from ATLA!
I completely agree with you. The layers and complexities of Korra's villains make them compelling and interesting and spur the growth of Korra as both a character with her own arc, and as the new avatar.
They definitely came in many shades of grey and added a lot to the story!
That's right.
Something I think brings an extra layer to Unaloq is that he does worry about "nature" as he put it, and takes it as far as believing in the destruction of Republic City assuming that will fix the imbalance because of the division/harm it causes. Similarly to Thanos, we know where he's coming from and we know how he might be right, but instead of caring about how that effects people, he asserts his idea of a better world with no regard of the fact that balance does not mean waaaaay in the opposite direction of what is already built up and established. Basically saying "You environmentalists are right, just don't do this.😊😊"
Ozai kinda needed to be hitler though.
Kuvira was Ozai but less evil... I mean, bro...
Agree
Yes, I'm tired of framing discourse around whether things are good or bad. There are so many other aspects of art to talk about.
I really appreciate this video. There is no unnecessary hate on Legend of Korra, it’s educational on each ideologies presented by the villains, and you connected the story with the real world. I was really fascinated by the villain’s perspectives, especially Amon and Zaheer. The two had very good points about the flaws in society. I was able to understand them but not so much on Unalaq and Kuvira. I knew Unalaq’s ideology is connected to religion but I didn’t see how his ideas connected to the real world. But you answered the question in an easy matter for me to understand: the spirit world was representing our environment. How we’re in disharmony with our own planet and polluting the world. It makes so much sense- Unalaq originally wanted to restore balance between the two worlds, but alas his faith was brought into an extremity. I also didn’t get Kuvira at first. She just seemed like a power-hungry lady to me, not someone with a morally gray area. After watching your video, I realized even though that was partly true she still represented a problem we’re facing today: social media and the power they hold. It’s certainly true that she helped bring balance into the Earth Kingdom after it was fallen to chaos. However, she had a twisted way of “reuniting” the Earth Kingdom. When people refused to swear their loyalty to Kuvira, she threatened them- not giving them food, water, the bare necessities to survive. She had good intentions of wanting to help people but she just took it too far. This complicated and divided people because people didn’t know what Kuvira did to restore balance and blindly followed her. Kuvira had good intentions but she took it too far and even she knew that. But that’s not really the point, my point was Kuvira represented people with power today and how we blindly worship them when we don’t even know what those celebrities/people with power do in the background.
Anyway, this comment turned way longer than it was supposed to. Just wanted to say thank you for helping me understand the villain’s ideologies and how it connected to the real world. I love both ATLA and LoK equally, they’re both wonderful and fascinating in their own ways. However, LoK’s story plot is way more interesting and is also parallel to society’s problems today. It’s amazing.
Thanks so much for your passionate and thoughtful reply. I'm glad I was able to help you a bit in making sense of the villains' motivations in Korra. I agree with you that both series are excellent in their own ways and each brings their own strengths to the table. Thanks again so much for watching and I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
Something I think brings an extra layer to Unaloq is that he does worry about "nature" as he put it, and takes it as far as believing in the destruction of Republic City assuming that will fix the imbalance because of the division/harm it causes. Similarly to Thanos, we know where he's coming from and we know how he might be right, but instead of caring about how that effects people, he asserts his idea of a better world with no regard of the fact that balance does not mean waaaaay in the opposite direction of what is already built up and established. Basically saying "You environmentalists are right, just don't do this.😊😊"
The video sums it up with looking at the conflict between nature and man as discrimination 8:40 . I know he was probably looking at Amon with seeing all benders as a potential threat, but using man vs nature was cool. Because instead of blaming one for all the negative things that pop up, I think us taking what we need from nature to sustain both humanity and the environment the balance that's always been there, it's just become tougher sense the industrial revolution.
I want to create educational and ideological antagonists as well.
I have ideas but don’t know what they’re truly called because I haven’t explained what they are too others yet.
I’m currently making a manga and a comic series about my own philosophies I made for my first two stories.
I hope to make RUclips videos as good as yours and stories as good as LOK and Philosophical Stories
People didn‘t know what Kuvira was doing. I found that very unrealistic. What about that enourmos army could be delusional? Why did they all behave like you couldn‘t be sure if you just needed to talk to her? With the Equalists and the Red Lotus it was set right from the start that they were evil with far less clues.
I don‘t see „Social media“ as a problem in Korra season 4. It‘s fascism. Today fascists use social media, but in Korra they don‘t.
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Korra had AMAZING villains, and honestly, what made them so great were their complexities and the fact that what they fought for were something we all can understand. Amon wanted Equality for Everyone, Unalaq wanted the spirits and humans to live peacefully together to create Balance, The Red Lotus wanted to overthrow corrupt leaders and the ideology of the Avatar uniting all when they believed they can unite themselves without the Avatar, and Kuvira wanted to Unite her people after the power vacuum left by Zaheer and the Red Lotus. Equality, Balance, Liberty and Unity. Though all their methods went through dictatorships, totalitarian rules, and anarchy, it’s hard to think that at the end of the day, they each got what they wanted in a way in the end.
Amon got the council in season one abolished to have a non-bender president because benders abused their gifts which created that equality in a way, Unalaq got the spirits to live with humans in the end after Korra chose to keep the Portals opened, Zaheer killed the Earth Queen and gave the people their freedom from a dictator, and Kuvira after her defeat eventually united the Earth Kingdom again with Wu at the helm.
Legend of Korra has some top-tier villains. Amon, Unalaq, Zaheer and Kuvira, all terrifying individuals whose actions have severe ramifications on the characters and the world. To say nothing of the underlying evil force, Vaatu.
Unpopular opinion but legend of Korra to me was better than last Airbender because of the diff end villains and their philosophies in a more modern world, the fight styles were out of this world amazing, and the sub categories of bending were really utilized
Eh, not every villain was a homerun. Unalaq eventually becomes just as evil and mustache twirling as Ozai. Hell they even have a similar backstory where they plot against their family to seize power. And is Zaheer really an anarchist? Because what kind of anarchist thinks that by simply causing chaos the world will be a better place?
@geo science And Zaheer? Do you think he was suppose to be an accurate representation of an anarchist?
@geo science And yet so many people seem to think he is a real anarchist. I think a real anarchist would probably be offended by how Zaheer is portrayed in the show, but that’s just me.
@geo science I understand that the writers wanted to make these villains feel like real people with understandable goals, but they also needed to make them villainous enough so that the heroes can be justified in taking them down. I still haven’t really made up my mind if they managed to strike that balance.
I too think tlok is better than Atla, one of the reasons is it being underrated
I am so shocked your videos do not have millions of views, i hope they will someday!!!
Thanks! You and me both! :)
I am a huge fan of Legend of Aang and Korra. Thank you for discussing this topic! I've always thought that they are really worth studying, they are incredibly intelligent and powerful, they're just different from any villain out there.
Wait... you mean the movie?
@@leo-nw5qe nope, the anime series
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Thanks for this video, really helps me for my school project about the ideologies in Korra
Glad I could help!
The reason why they demonized ammon by making him a bender was because the audience would be confused if ammon is the villain or if korra is the villain since ammon is fighting for equality so to rid of that confusion they needed to make ammon a bender
Or it's to point out that a lot of radicals that call for equality such as Marxist thinkers tend to be complete hypocrites that throw away the people's will for power. Like when Lenin, who called for equality, overthrew Russia's democratic assembly and then ignored and prosecuted voters against his agenda when the vote was not to his liking. History is filled with such figures.
He reminds me of polpot that massacres educated people during the khmer rouge, ironically he is what could be considered as educated, even studying abroad.
I think you need to see it from a more broad view.
He is defenately a Villan who comes from a psychologically relatable point.
What many peoole fail including those mentioming him in Videos is who Noatakk was by nature.
As Tarlock tells us he used to be a very good natured kid that always helped and wanted fairness.
It was their criminal ex Mafia boss violent and forced training that slowly pushed booth down a dark path.
Yakone their father was obsessed with Vengence and his sons were but tools to archieve it. Since he could no longer bend but they could.
We see him grow colder and colder given as more talented Yakone put the main preassure on him.
Keeping in mind their father was a mob boss they at first feared him enough not to tell their mother or dare lay hands on him.
And through this "Having to do this to survive" mindset the i want fairness for everyone escalated.
As a 14 year old was forced to twist and tourture local wildlife to bloodbend. Forced to do the same to his brother.
But at some point he snapped. Shocked his father by bending him and ran off. Traumatized and without guidemce he grew into this twisted sense of equality through force.
Saw out in the world how essencially some are born with guns others can never hooe to get any to defend themselves.
Its not about the rich or powerful lile Zaheer. His goal was still fairness for the opressed. It was the methods born from their fathers mental and physical abuse that caused him to become a Villan.
We see him focus on Criminals first humiliating them.on stage how they humiliated and opressed others before. Causing terror and despair to them losing their bending how they left others without money and hope.
This extended to all benders because how can non benders ever stand up to a bender if they decide to use this gift to get their way?
So in his mind given what he could to was make all the world non benders so all have the same chances. And power isnt decided by a random chance at birth.
Of course the aftermath of such a success would be like our world. Where weapons would replace bending. But at the very least all would have the same options.
So Amon isnt about Anaechy, like Zaheer, not about opression like Kurvira. He is a fallen Hero of a child that ended a Villan by having his core belive twisted to extremes. Losing sight that just taking all bending away does not erase bad people.
And like in our world organized and unorhanized crime just finds new ways.
What? Him being a bender would make no difference to the audience seeing him as a villain
Zaheer and the red lotus have many people that agree with them myself included to a degree. The white Lotus had a job to fight against evil by staying in the shadows. But after the 100 year war was over they reveal themselves and basically became the avatar private security.
The red lotus believe that people should have freedom and life will find a way. President raiko being a idiot, he could've helped stop korras uncle by sending help but didn't,nearly costing the planet. And the earth queen being a dictator by taxing the working and middle-class to the point of starvation. Forcing the the new airbenders into the military. Zaheer didn't realize actions have consequences.
You cant really compare the original white lotus a group of extremely wise elder grand masters that understood the world as a whole and stood above nations and what not with that shit the LOK writers did with it.
The whole find new Avatars conceot to train them.would at least make sense. Its when they involved them in politics where they pissed on the founders roots.
Also people should realize that Anarchy only sounds nice on paper. Humans arent able to just do what they want and succeed.
By removing figureheads new ones rise up. By removing goverment entierly chaos ensues snd criminals run rampant.
Humans need moral laws that punish bad dessisions. Leaving ppl to themselves allows big organized groups to pillage rape and murder and so on.
So the reasons for change are understandable, but the execution a mssive failure
Contrary to popular belief, I think the villain ideologies are explored in a very simplistic fashion in the show. They basically framed every ideology in the show as the villains "going too far" without actually addressing the real issues that the villains brought up. The only villain that they really gave a fair representation to was fascist Kuvira. For example Ammon's movement of equality addresses really important issues but at the end they made him out to be a liar as if to say anyone who tries to preach equality and tries to go against the status quo is somehow a liar. Also after Ammon they just completely erased the the Equalist movement as if the discovery of Ammon being a liar somehow fixed the inequality between benders and non-benders.
5:58 „ideology taken too far“
... but that just doesn‘t happen with Zahir‘s ideology. It‘s supposed to resemble anarchism, but doesn‘t resemble what anarchists would do. Zahirs actions isn‘t anarchism taken too far, but destruction and evil.
And in the end Korra doesn‘t learn anything from that. She learns to accept that violence happend to her, but nothing about questioning that there should be hirarchies and leaders.
Anarchists 100% have used terrorist tactics and tried to overthrow governments in the past, what? What world do you live in? o.O
LOK villains would have been better if they had backstory like Zuko and Azula
It had its ups and downs, but the villains were amazing. Especially zaheer, a villain not only with a unique ideology but cool powers and concept. An “evil” airbender is such a good idea. And the red lotus too, super unique group. And he wasn’t entirely wrong in some respects, like getting rid of the earth queen, which is seen later when the prince dude gets rid of the monarchy
Your video essay is so well written and edited. Thank you for this amazingly well done video. I especially loved the end, when you said we must learn to adapt, to understand the grey areas, to be part of a more complex globalized world. Continuously growing!
Thank you, I really appreciate it!
The series may have some flaws, but It’s villains are one of the best villains ever in my opinion.
Amon, Unalaq, Zaheer and Kuvira are imposing, dangerous and yet complex and well written characters.
If all the villains will fight. This is the ranking from strongest to weakest:
1. Unavatuu
2. Amon
3: Zaheer
4: Kuvira
I fucking hate Kuvira but I think she could take Zaheer on. Possibly but not sure. I legit hate her but I can’t say she’s number 4
I would rank Zaheer Above Amon. Yeah his Bloodbending is rather OP but Amon got taken out by amateur brawler-style airbending while Zaheer, who wa pratically a master on his own right gave a much more powerful Korra a run for her money.
Cool motive, still a murder is how I would sum up the villains of this show. Their goals are usually understandable, but the way they try to achieve them makes them look delusional and insane, hence why their still villains at the end of the day. Like, did Zaheer really think that no one would rise up to seize power from the leaders he would have killed? And there’s also Amon saying that he was going to equalize the entire planet. Good luck with that one mate.
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Amon and Zaheer are just the coolest, they remind me of Batman villains in the best possible ways, they're intentions are not necessarily immoral and the nuance of their character as well as they way the conduct themselves allows for us to empathize with them better.
You are very insightful.👍 Keep up the good work
TLOK may not have as great Main Character Dynamics as TLAB, but its villains are waaaay better and more interesting.
I love Amon hiz my boi!
Legend of korra should have made vaatu the final villain
Uh, thats a good idea, i think they should just swap the seasons. Like, Kuvira at 2 and vaatu at 4. Season.
Maybe Kuvira would have a redemption arc earlier than in the comics, i would like to see it!
@@leo-nw5qe I disagree. I rather enjoyed seeing Korra struggle with the consequences of her battle with Vaatu
Zaheer is the best villain hands down in TLOK 😂
Amon is
Zaheer is arguably one of the dumbest villains in LOK. How did he plan on taking out every single leader and ruler on the planet? I think it would have been smarter if he tried harder to get Korra to join him. Use her as a rallying point for his cause. Tell her in the spirit world that with her help they can stabilize things once certain figure heads are removed instead of the whole natural order is disorder thing.
@Green Sky nah I do disagree (but I do respect your opinion)
@@bosscommando4694 exactly 💯
I, for one, say that not all are great villans, as Amon and Zaheer makes Kuvira and Unalaq looks like one sided, plain bad, selfish, power seekers.
It is cool that they made Kora a teenager at the start, at the same time that they made the story looks more closely and critically at what would be a society based around power and bending prowess goes side by side.
Someday I will binge both Aang and Korra again.
thank you for helping me understand the ideologies. I think the leggend of Korra did a better job on the different villains than the legend of aang did. The villains actually have a vision of a brighter future. But I think they could have brought more depth to what their motives in changing the world. Especially Unalaq seems just pure evil without any sight of improvement. Kuvira also did not really seem to have any good intentions. Overall I think the seasons should have been more like 20 episodes so that there would be more character development and backstories.
Piece of advice: try working on your intonation. It wil make it easier to follow your story/message
Thanks for the insights.
Thanks for the well thought out comment! I completely agree Korra could have taken more time to flesh out the story and characters better, but budget constraints are a perpetual problem.
Feel free to check out my more recent content if you are interested. I absolutely think the level of quality has improved in my voice over work over time.
Thanks again for your insights as well. ✌️
Korra may have had the best villains in some ways, but avatar had better antagonists with Zuko and Azula.
@@austinjohnsen4430 for sure. But the never really explained the motive of the fire nation
@@mellevandenwildenberg2736 We know what Sozin’s motive was, share fire nation’s prosperity with the world.
@@mellevandenwildenberg2736 You mentioned the shortcomings of Unalq and Kuvira, but what about Zaheer? Don’t you think he’s kind of an idiot for thinking that killing leaders will somehow make things better? Did he not have a plan just in case other dictators would rise up?
My main problem with book 1 of LoK, is that Amon says he wants equality between benders and non-benders, yet his solution is the destruction of wealth (aka bending). The true goal should have been wealth redistribution which was and is always the goal of socialism, so basically instead of taking bending away. Amon should have been able to take some bending abilities/power of the bender, and then being able to give those power/bending to a non-bender.
What I'm saying is that Amon or his ideas should never be allegory for socialism due to Amon and his destruction of wealth and NOT the redistribution of said wealth.
If they did that they would have to reconstruct his abilities and motivation. He wanted equality, yes. But he also hated the idea ou f bending and truly believed it was the source of all evil in the world. I wouldnt have liked a plotline where he is giving out bending to people. I like that his squad were all trained and could easily combat trained and professional pro benders.
Zaheer is my favorite Korra villain
I think he had the best of intentions
Great vid!
What of avatar the last airbender analysis?????
In due time, my friend 🙂
@@TimThoughts cool I can't wait
Zheer is the Best Villain in my Opinion
Let’s be real here the only power Amon has is the power to do some kick ass makeup. He shoulda done my face for prom DAMN.
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Meme at 1:05
2 out of 3 villains have public support, non benders supported amon, earth kingdom citizen suported kuvira, it makes me question if this is happening in real life as we speak.
In atla, we have no basis on why should we fear ozai as a villain, except he burned his son's face. But in TLOK, amon mastered blood bending to the point he could permanently chi block benders, unalaq and the meanest kite that ever flew team up to fight korra and as we know from avatar wan's story , a less powerful raava, then zaheer and his flying and his OP team, then kuvira and her unbendable mech and spirit vines energy that could blow a hole in a mountain, and that is the energy of a pencil size vine.
I'm so stressed out every season in TLOK because i'm like, how will korra defeat her enemies that is considered too OP in ATLA.
I guess i'm a plot driven person that is why i prefer TLOK than ATLA, everytime korra wasted no time to face the problem, i'm always like "yeah! that is my avatar."
ATLA Is a tale wich takes its time to exolore all sides of a world at war.
LOK is more action based lets do this. It was also planned with just one season wich then led to the villan each season vibe.
What ATLA did better is focusing on realistic relations and interactions between people.
LOK failed here with its realstionship drsmas and out of the blue brownie points couple. Overall we see less of the deeper interactions like Zuko and Iroh have.
That LOK did better in my opinion was make more compact but focused plots. You had less random encounters each episode like in Aangs more mythical journey and every episode was in some way part of the main plott against the main villan.
I see each show as a reflection of the main character.
Aangs story as a Passifist monk is more about fimding yourself and growing. While slowly gliding through your journey.
While Korra is down to the meat gritty struggle to eventually grow and overcome preassure.
The times of each also reflect a more mythical feudal time compared to the indzstrial revolution that opened entierly new possebilities for villans.
Amon sounds like Starscream
How??
@@vectorenigma7098 I don’t know but he just sounded like Starscream
@@kazumintokiwa2660 They have the same voice actor. The one who voiced starscream in Transformers Prime( Steven Blum)
@@Linx_82 Holy shit! He also voiced Vilgax from Ben 10 ;)
This title shoud have added "... and Unalaq"
Thank you
Thank you as well!
I just don’t understand why would it be so hard to just have one major villain with each season building up to it? TLA was able to do it.
It’s cause of Nickelodeon originally korra was meant to be one season due to nick just being retarded, then nick gave them another which was also supposed to be the finale then they gave them another one and then another one after that
Very well done video. Keep it going.
You didn’t talk about zaheer
Everyone in Legend of Korra had motives and goals
Honestly, I just ignore how their ideologys play into the real world ones. They aren't very good at understanding them.
Anarchists don't want chaos because it's the natural state of thing. It's closer to no hierarchy.
Also bending is a horrible wealth alagory for amaon.
Yeah, I’ve always said that a real anarchist would probably be offended by how Zaheer was portrayed. If they wanted him to be a real anarchist they wouldn’t have included the whole chaos thing and just kept in the absence of hierarchies and wanting freedom.
Let's be honest all villains in korra had great plans for the planet's good but they did some things wrong
Amon is the type of villains you see a lot nowadays. A power hungry hustler that takes advantage of people who feel discriminated to achieve his own personal vindictive goals.
Thats not who Amon is thou.
@Trafalgar Water D. Law That's exactly who Amon is. Amon was definitely power-hungry and took advantage of non-benders grievances with benders to try and conquer Republic City. Amon never cared about equality. The man wanted control over all people, non-bending and bending.
@@controlman7490did you actually watch the first season, cuz it was pretty clear and obvious that Amon was never power hungry and genuinely wanted equality. His whole backstory is literally him seeing the dark side of bending as a child
@ShurouInu Did YOU watch the first season? It was very clear that Amon was power-hungry. The man literally tried to take over RC and wanted to establish a fascist government where benders would be oppressed and unable to speak out or fight back. Amon never wanted equality. He was literally preaching about taking away rights from benders and ensuring they lived in fear. Amon was creating the same problem he was fighting against, but in reverse, so instead of benders oppressing non-benders, he wanted a world where non-benders oppress benders, which is just as bad. The man was a tyrant who just wanted domination over the planet and wanted to silence a specific group of people.
@@controlman7490 did you watch the first season, your putting your perspective over what was actually shown and established. We get a man targeting benders who has a backstory of being abused by a bender with bending. Your comment is the equivalent of saying “yeah this character has an established backstory of being a victim of men, and targeting all men because their past leads them to hate them, it’s because they want power”. Hm I wonder why the bender hating man, would try and take over the city with mainly benders in positions of power. For the love of god, he is literally a representation of the corruption of equality, toph literally says all the villains issues where that they took their views to the extreme. Amon took equality to the extreme by trying to make everyone the same instead of treating everyone equally regardless. Yeah he preached about oppressing the group he hated because he viewed them as oppressors. Lol I like how your whole comment was “he just want power” and you spend the entire comment talking about how he wasn’t doing equality properly (whole point of Amon) and casually just say he wanted dominion after having provided no evidence that he only wanted power. Your logic doesn’t follow, we have a character with a past and trauma related to bending, removes the ability to bend, talks about the actual issue of inequality because of bending, and your idea is “no, he has all this lore related to hating bending and trauma from it, but no he just wants power
Why do I feel this is like North Korea?
Legend of Korra and Kung Fu Panda Villains will always be TOP TIER VILLAINS in any animated series or movies. Their back stories and ideologies are unmatched. I admit, i never appreciated this on my first watch of the LOK series but as i continuously rewatched this, i realized Korra is anyone like us, modern millennials, who have grown up watching ALOA. We subconsciously relate to her story that we hated her in her reckless and somehow ignorant and stubborn ways like we all do while growing up and figuring out life as young adults. And those villains with their principles and backstories were and will always be present in our ever changing society especially nowadays as we slowly push our own ideologies in search for acceptance and validations from a previous generation enclosed with strict cultural traditions and stigmatism. LOK is not perfect just like our society nowadays, but it perfectly mirrors our generation right now and once again subconsciously tapped into our minds like ALOA to give light to the unspoken issues ever silenced by the villains it portrays in the show. 😌
Well said! I too have a growing fondness for the show and all it does well the older I get. I find myself able to better appreciate the subtleties and intricacies of a rapidly modernizing world with bending. I think you hit the nail on the head comparing it to our modern world. Appreciate the thoughtful insights! 🙂
amon: utalitarism... communism... equalism? I somehow have a hard time categorizing him. he wants equality, but the sort of equality is not a "economic" one, thus not making him a communist I think, but of potentiality. at the same time, he himself is the sort of leader, but wants the same sort of rights and abilities for everyone, basically crippling exceptional beings for "the greater good". But it is really hard to sort that into ideologies or forms of state or power today... he claims to be all out for equality but his own ethics and how he works is very unequal actually, there are a lot of conflicting things here at play, which to me makes it hard to properly categorize or recognize him. Zaheer is easy: Anarchy essentially, which means an absence of ruling structures, without any implicit judgement. Could usher in a new, free world, or dog-eat-dog world. probably depends on your philosophy if you think mankind is inherently evil or inherently good and will manifest itself as such. unalaq was sort of spiritual equality that also mirrors the anarchism to a degree. the separation between real and spirit world was deemed as not necessary or unnatural itself, thus wanting to have balance again by releasing the "dark" forces. Almost jungian in a psychologic sense, when you repress your shadow too much, bad things will happen as well. Kuvira was authoritanism/dictatorship, maybe even fascism, but I am not sure I would go so far down that route. Cause there was no ethnic cleansing or nationstate aspect to it, although control and punishment against the own people obviously as well, which is also a staple, but can exist indifferent ideologies (i.e. KGB and SS in fascism and communism, but something like modern chian fits, the GDR as well, but even theocratic states in the middle east). I really liked Korra from its concept, but I thought from both story perspective but also how it plays out in the show, it was somehow crippled, cool ideas, not really flawlessly executed. It is not a bad show by any means and much more brainy and interesting than the original ATLA, but I still like the original ATLA as as show a lot better.
i do like legend of korra and the fact they tried to represent diffrent real world ideologies in the movie, i do think though that the creators did a somewhat poor jobb of representing said ideologies stooping to old steriotypes of how these ideologies work and opperate. Also i get the feelings that (as a politcal theory major and a teacher who teaches the social sciances) the creators of the show has a shallow understanding of these various ideologies. still love the show though it makes my popcorn taste better
Yeah. I think a real life anarchist would be offended by how Zaheer is portrayed in the show. Because what kind of anarchist thinks that simply causing chaos will magically make everything better?
@@austinjohnsen4430 exactly, Same with how Amon is portrayed (he´s basicly communist, though communists would disagree to a pretty extream degree) all four ideologies presented is kinda poorly repressented. I do also find it intressting that Kuvira is the villain that presented as the most sympathetic. There is acctually a great video series on youtube that i found after writing my comment. Made by a youtuber called kay and skittles which discuss the various ideologies of the LOK Villains. Its a very intressting take on it whatever or not you agree with the ideology or not.
@@lunsen402 The writers really wanted to have their cake and eat it too with their villains. They wanted them to feel like real people with understandable goals, but they also needed to make them villainous enough so that the heroes can be justified in taking them down. Even Unalq’s seemingly noble goal to reunite humanity with the spirits eventually becomes a means to an end to become a god. He’s no different from Ozai in that regard. He even has a similar backstory to Ozai where he plots against his own family to gain power.
@@austinjohnsen4430 Indeed. I do think the worst example of this might acctually be Amon though. It is kinda the whole "communist leaders are bad couse they are what they claim to fight" kind of thing. That whole myth i mean. It is the idea that all who are not of the status que must be grifters in it only for their wealth and success, which obviously isn´t true, talk to any communist or socialist and they´ll tell you they´re in it becouse they like people and want to make things better for everyone. (tankies excluded btw)
@@lunsen402 I think Zaheer is the worse villain. And as much as the show tells us that Amon wanted equality for everyone, you have to wonder how much of his crusade is motivated by a genuine desire to make the world a better place, and how much of it is motivated by just plain revenge against benders. I’m not gonna lie, I kinda like that there’s this ambiguity to him. Makes him a bit more complex.
If feel like for unalok they should've gone into the imperialist and colonial villain, forcing his way on to other culture without their consent, like how he forced his hand in the southern water tribe
I love how Season 3 we have anarchy as the main ideology trying to spread and when it fails the result of it is the polor opposite, fascism push back with full power as the response... Its really realistic and it shows how cyclical society actually is as its been shown in history, all these events come in phases and they always repeat after the previous phase goes too far but fails to be the answer it promises to be!
Adakah the legend of korra adalah penamat cerita avatar? Takkan Ada cerita baru?
They've announced a new movie that will continue the original story of ATLA and the gaang as adults. Also allegedly there will be a new series based on the avatar after Korra, set in a more modern world! I believe both of these projects are supposed to release in 2025.
So amon is the bolshevik revolution, zaheer is the french revolution, kuvira is the rise nazism... I don't know for unalaq
Yeah not really anyone in history who turns into a dark spirit kaiju
Just one of those who was hungry for power
I once got in trouble for watching this during school. But I just said
"this teaches me a sh*t load about governments"
Korra would be great if it was less romance and more character development.
Do I hear orochimaru?
Listen, I don't want to get into the whole explaination, but Amon is only about community, when one believes, that the wealth is a part of your identity.
The spirituality in season 2, gets it completely wrong, especially by defining good and Bad in a way like the abrahamic religions.
Zaheer, is only an anarchist, insofar anarchocapitalists are anarchists(they really aren't).
Now the part about fascism isn't wrong, but as examplified by varrick, korra still has a blindspot towards the analysis of fascism.
Definitely Ammon.
Kuvira is just like ozai, zaheer is too typical, unalaq is kinda dull.
Take inspiration from Korra on how to deal with the injustices of our own world?
Alright - so what I'm hearing is... take every political figure and celebrity I don't like - and hurl them full force out of a third-floor window.
I'm in!
I wish you luck on your endeavors! 😂
Last Airbender villains are better because they have backstory
Depends on the villain, zuko and azula are quite good and their motives are explained. Ozai is more so just a plot device.
We saw his marriage, his relationships with his father and children
@@an8strengthkobold360 Ozai may not be a very deep character, but he provides plenty of depth to the story. He is what Aang and Zuko need to overcome in order to complete their respective character arcs. Aang needs to defeat him to fulfill his destiny, and Zuko needs to break free of him in order to realize what his true destiny is because he had a false perception of what it was thanks to Ozai and his abuse. Ozai also serves as a living representation of everything wrong with the fire nation and how far it’s fallen. So in conclusion, you’re right about Ozai being mostly a plot device, but he’s a pretty damn good one for the story.
Amon has backstory
They killed off him quickly. We don't know how he removed people's bendings, how he became Amon
Korra was ass in alot of her fights and her spiritual side was terrible. These same beliefs each villian has wouldnt have worked with aang. Aang was too spiritual and wise for her villians
Aang was an ass avatar he let the world slip into unbalance for the single longest period of time in the avatar universe also he on the regular was running or getting his ass kicked or ending in stalemates
Also Aang goal wasn’t wise or deep in any definition his entire story is “fireman bad beat fireman everything good”
@@DrowsyKodi An ass Avatar who ended a war that went on for a century and created an era that was more peaceful that lasted decades. Yes. Aang did need to defeat a nation that was evil, but he also needed to do some serious growing up in order to do that. And the only reason the fire nation is bad is because their leader is bad. Not to mention as we find out in the headband they have been fed a false historical account on how the war began, and how the air nomads were wiped out.
@@DrowsyKodi True
She didnt suck in her fights, her spiritual side grew exponentially in book 2, and like CodyZooom said he spent 99% of any conflicts running, getting his ass whooped, or ending in stalemates.
And now compare this to LAB. Big bad firelord because he is... big and bad!
And yet we hear time and time again that LOK is bad and LAB is ideal. It is not like that. LOK is just more complex and developing lore. And Korra just is not a whizz kid like Ang was.
And still both shows are great.
The fire lord is bad because the once noble intentions of his ancestor have been twisted and warped. It’s actually pretty tragic. And the villains of Korra are kind of dumb if you think about it. If Amon had actually succeeded in getting rid of bending, then places like Zaofu and republic city would likely fall into some trouble since they kind of rely on bending for their way of life. And did Zaheer have a plan to account for the power vacuum he would create by killing certain leaders?
@Austin Johnsen Zaher had no plan because he was anarhist. I think your (perfectly valid) objection is more about ideology as a whole than red lotos itself.
Amon of course was blinded by his hate and was not thinking thinghs trough.
I do not claim those vilans aere justified or right. I think everyone of them had some points butthey were WAAAAAY to extreme with them.
With fire lord... i kind of ged what You are saying and allso kind of not. Like it is ki d of tragic but i kustthink we had to little of back storry of Fire Lord. If we had like an episode about him and his life i think he could have been much bether vilan
@@jdurthu4304 Anarchy is not about freedom and chaos as the show makes it out to be. Many anarchists only want the former. People I’ve spoken to (including a guy on here who claims to be a social science teacher) about this have told me that most anarchists are not as violent and insane as Zaheer is.
I would have loved to have seen one of the characters ask Amon what his plan was to make the world a better place when most people kind of need bending. What do you think his answer would have been?
The villains of this show really aren’t too different from how things went in avatar in which previously good intentions turn into something far more perverse. All Sozin wanted was to share the fire nation’s prosperity with the world.
And for the record Aang and Korra really aren’t so different from one another when their respective shows end. Neither of them really have to make a personal sacrifice for the greater good like they feared they would. Aang didn’t need to give up his commitment to the air nomad ways, and Korra doesn’t need to relinquish her role as the avatar as she knows it in a modernized world. They both get bailed out by something, wether that be a magic turtle, or another big bad villain that needs to be stopped somehow. Both shows kind of play it safe with a lot of the difficult questions they raise.
@@jdurthu4304 At least Ozai for as cartoonishly evil as he was had an achievable goal that made sense. Use the comet to burn down the earth kingdom to quell the remaining rebellions there, and then colonize the lands for the fire nation. Compare that to Amon’s goal of equalizing the rest of the world somehow, and Zaheer’s goal of killing leaders because that will somehow make everything better again. It’s stuff like this that serves to remind us that these guys are still villains of a kids fantasy show at the end of the day. It’s not too different from how things in avatar played out where previously good intentions got lost along the way.
Love your video just have 1 problem with your video you use the term racism incorrectly. The black lives matter protests are not protesting Racism they are protesting colorism. Black Americans are still Americans and as such the discrimination against Black Americans by other Americans can't be Racism. Racism would be like the discrimination against Asian Americans during the covid 19 pandemic.