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I want to mention how different people can have different takes on the same thing. I've watched a negative review of legend of Korra and it brought up a lot of the same point as you did, but had a negative view on it. P.S This was commented before your comment was commented!
The thing that gets me, in hindsight, is how making Korra a firebender would make more sense and have the black lotus successfully kill the water and earth bender avatars when they were still children. It would explain the intense security Korra grew up with. It would establish the black lotus as a threat and it would further the antibender movement. With 30 years without an Avatar immediately after the century absence would also give more weight to the feeling of not needing an avatar most people seemed to have.
It’s fascinating to me that Aang and Korra would have been the “perfect” Avatars- for each other’s times. Korra would have been so well-suited to a one-on-one confrontation with Ozai that the story would have essentially been open and shut, whereas Aang would have excelled at the complex social challenges of Republic City that needed a diplomat.
imagine if it was the case... we would've finished both series with only one or two seasons each😂😂 i liked the idea of their eras so opposite from one another❤️
interesting take. the writers were very talented to do this. they knew that in order to create a compelling show, they needed to give their avatars challenges they were not ready for. They needed to give their avatars a reason to grow and rise to meet the occasion. That created a compelling show for sure.
Imo Probending is the perfect example of how to introduce a fantasy sport to a pre established world. You never once get a run down of the rules or the aim of the game and you learn about the sport just from watching it. I picked up the rules really easy. Even in sports like Quidditch from Harry Potter they have a whole scene which explains the rules
In the defense of HP, Harry didn't know the rules either and was an 11 year old in a school being asked to join the school team. So that's kind of the perfect environment to be taught the rules for something.
And Quidditch is also just a horribly designed sport. I've been wanting to rant about this for a while, so here I go... First of all, all the names are stupid, from a story perspective. I've got no time to learn all of these dumb names. Second, only the seekers really matter. Literally in that scene you mention: the game ends when the snitch is caught and catching the snitch gives so many points that it almost always wins the match. So the six hoops total, quaffles, chasers, and keepers only matter if one side is much better than the other. If one side is just a bit better, it doesn't matter, only the seekers matter and the beaters to the point that they inhibit the seekers. Then lets move on to how it's organized: there is apparently very little to combat audience interference, neither proactive not retroactive. No spells are put in place to stop audience members from trying to magic players off their broom at Hogwarts, nor was there any penalty (that mattered) for the magic girls that make men horny (this was in a kids book!) at the international games. Anyone can do anything and the worst that'll happen is a penalty shot, during which the seekers can still look for the snitch and those are the only things that matter. IIRC Slytherin even used this tactic one year, by just targeting Harry, as they'd just win if their opponent's seeker gets injured as they can delay catching the snitch as long as they need to. Oh, yeah, that was also canon: the game continues if a player gets hospitalized in the middle of a game. Also, apparently broomstick manufacturing is a fast developing industry as each year seemed to bring a new broom that completely invalidates the one before in every aspect. This was a missed opportunity for some interesting strategizing to have brooms that are more maneuverable vs fast vs stable vs easy to use, but more importantly: Hogwarts decided not to regulate it? They just let teams play on their own, top-of-the-line broom, giving a hefty advantage to the richer team in a school game! That is just ridiculous! One more thing: there was also a spell Hermione used one day to make Harry's glasses not get wet during a bad weather game, which is apparently allowed, useful, very easy to do, yet not common practice... So, it's a ridiculous game which is also criminally under-regulated. Okay, that was my rant. Love the books, but they certainly have their issues, one of which is that they're written by a horrible human.
Personally I thought Probending was lame. With all the crazy things you can do with bending all they could think of when developing a sport around it was flinging small rocks and 2 second bursts of fire and water? They could’ve been more creative with the sport then that and the fact we waste so much time in it just make it more apparent.
@@brandonlyon730 you have to place limits in order to make the game work. You can't have earthbenders throwing boulders and firebenders doing continuous streams of fire in a game like this.
I wish fight scenes in LOK were given more credit. They are so epic and amazing and the cast of characters are all incredible fighters (even Asami, who is a badass non bender) and the villains are up to par with the heros, maybe even stronger. Haters of the show fail to realize where the two shows are different and even where Korra is better, in the case of the fight scenes. Although I love many battles in ATLA, specifically the Azula vs Zuko and Katara one, the LOK ones just get better and better as the series progresses and Korra and the other characters become stronger emotionally and physically. One of my favorite scenes, which is surprisingly not even a fight scene although I talked fight scenes up so much in that last paragraph, is the scene where Tarrlok commits suicide with his brother. The depressing intensity of the scene is what really gets me, and the way Tarrlok felt their relationship was too bruised to continue, so he just ended it. The pan away into the ocean, watching as the boat blows up is beautiful, and part of me wishes they got some closure with the other characters about their death, and the other part of me loves that is stays silent and is just a secluded moment no one else knows about.
The problem is that they are so different though, kind of ruins the avatar universe with what happens in the show. Then they make mako a fuck boy, and destroy the past avatars? Idk I think we would’ve been better off without the show. If it was a stand alone show then I would’ve liked it a lot more.
KimiDesu Amon can literally blood bend with his mind, and performed master level water bending techniques such as his water tornado to keep him far above water. Oh, did I mention the man can also take your bending away? I understand your point though, Zaheer was more trying to kill and cause chaos where Amon simply wanted to take peoples bending.
Another big difference between the series is story format. TLA is an episodic show with broad overlapping arcs (including an arc that goes from start to finish). Korra's seasons are complete story arcs, and the episodes therein are serial rather than episodic. I think people were expecting more of the former when they watched Korra, but it really is apples and oranges. They're just different shows.
This was the biggest thing for me, I loved TLA because of the overarching arc, which allowed for a lot of narrative mobility on the way to complete that arc to explore characters. I think the weaker part of Korra was the seasons being individual arcs and stories. That's why the end of TLA was so powerful when it ended, it was the result of years of one cohesive story. But this is literally all just my opinion, so take with a grain if salt lol
There's one problem though. Serialised shows need more episodes to properly develop their story. That's why most of them have 18-22 episode seasons. Korra on the other hand has twelve
I don’t think the story format is an issue. I enjoyed the 4 different stories for each season. think they could have taken out relationship drama and explore more of Raava’s story and abilities cuz she’s underdeveloped
tbh i absolutely love the scene where korra is poisoned by the red lotus... like how she fights going into the avatar state and sees her past foes.. the visuals and everything about that scene is so good
That’s what I really like about legend of korra, due to korra finding out she was the avatar at such a young age she has built her personality around that image. Unlike aang and previous avatars they have found out later so they are able to have a personality out side of it, korra didn’t go on a wold travel ( no fault of her own) to connect and find teachers she has a spiritual tie with. But that’s where her growth comes in, from a brash, quick tempered, slightly selfish and eager to fight people to a selfless, understanding, caring etc person. She realises that Yh she is the avatar but also that she is korra and she can’t keep trying to hold up to aang or the other avatars, as they all want peace but have to forge and find there own path aswell
Yup so true, and people call her a Mary Sue for not travelling the world and having teachers given to her, while I think it became a downfall because she never learned how the world is and it’s sad she didn’t find a place in it for a long time because of that. This is why she turned back on her father and Tenzin but than people call her stupid for trusting her uncle that told her the truth. Once she found out her uncle was lying she immediately went against her uncle. But I guess we can’t convince Korra haters that she wasn’t bad
Bas Kuijpers Well I mean they have decent reasons to think she was bad. Idk in my opinion, I don’t hate it but it would’ve been better as a stand alone show. It’s a sequel to the TLA tho and it completely ruined it for me. Destroying the connection with past avatars, making it really modern (basically New York but in the avatar universe), and more. We would’ve been fine without it.
Korra started as a brash person and ended up being wise and kind. She was willing to make sacrifices to protect an enemy (saving kuvira from the spirit mech blast). that was very noble of her. people focus too much on her initial overbearing attitude when she was 16-17. But she did grow and changed for the better. Thats whats important.
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Shut the hell up. Korra fans are just pushovers who want the story to go their way. Keep living on that rainbow of yours while the normal ones will be on the ground laughing at you all😂😂😂😂
I love Korra’s character arc. She starts as a cocky avatar in training but quickly gets knocked down time and time again and by season 4 rolls by, she’s a more humbled and compassionate avatar :)
The argument that Korra is "too strong" and mastered the elements too soon is annoying. Korra is 18 by the time she masters firebending, 6 years older than Aang was, despite knowing that she was the avatar from a very young age
Which is fine, we need to focus on her spiritual side. If that's the thing then we need to put her in situations that'll help her gain wisdom and insight. To help her spiritual self grow to be more stronger and smarter. Let's say Amon took Korra's bending away in Ep. 4. We can not only see how she struggles to deal with the loss of her identity but we see how she is able to bounce back. For instance, she punches the wall in anger and desperation. Korra realizes that she can prove Amon wrong. By making a fighting style that counter the chi blocker fighting style. Eventually after defeating Amon. She comes to understand that despite being knocked down. You can rise up again and again just like a Phoenix. She compares that to flames. You may put it out but it'll keep coming back one way or another. Thus she breaths in deeply before breathing out a small flame. Her firebending has become more spiritually intune then it has ever been beforehand. Therefore she can firebend once again. That helps her grow more spiritually, emotionally and psychologically without going to a different area.
@@davidloza9316 but doesn't Korra need to work on those things or not? We didn't have to leave republic city either unlike ATLA where they go everywhere. If anything we could just flush out republic city. No it's not because last time I checked. An avatar has never lost all of their bending. Aang lost his fire bending but got it back. However, he never lost all four elements at once.
@@cloud77hot40 i dunno man. i think he did master earth and fire-bending. he could have easily killed Ozai by redirecting lightning at Ozai, thus defeating him with fire-bending alone. he used his mastery of earth-bending to passively monitor Ozai's every movement, even with his back turned to him. All this was done without the avatar state. Aang definitely mastered earth and fire bending.
I once saw someone saying "Korra had 3 years and she was still broken, it was her fault that she got the ptsd and she couldn't even fix herself, she's a failure" (pretty much like this) and I was like, sorry? Trauma is not something that just disappear after few meeting with therapist, I honestly don't like this argument like seriously, imagine he said that to an actual person who has mental illness smh Anyway, I wanna say I like LoK season 2 😂
No matter what people say about LOK, you gotta admit that both of the avatar series are both so well written, it's so satisfying to see the villains and protagonists developed so well. They are both so unique that it distincts them well from any other shows.
@@LOSTLEAD8R I dont think so. I think Makorra shows how Korra changed in her emotional maturity. Her relationship with mako was toxic and half baked, and it really shows just how much she changed by the time she was ready to go with Asami
I honestly like Mako's character. It makes sense for him to be how he is considering his past. Left alone with Bolin to care for it makes sense for him to be serious, humorless and pretty much emotionally undeveloped, which arose problems in his relationships with Asami and Korra (Which, to be fair, I blame Korra and Asami more as to why the relationships didn't work out.) I feel like throughout the show Mako learns to deal better with his own feelings and grow much more patient (especially when he starts to work for Prince Wu, who really challenged his patience). Also I actually really like that Korra and Mako decide to go their own separate ways and remain friends after they see that them being together didn't work out, it made the character's relationships seem that much more realistic.
Finally, someone spoke out about the greatness of LOK, both shows are awesome in their own way, Aang and Korra faced different conflicts in different times of course the plot will be very different
Thank you for putting exactly what I feel into words. One of the biggest complaints I hear is that Korra isn't as likeable by default as Aang. She is definitely arrogant and less likable in Books 1-2. But I agree with you, her story arc is about personal development, not bending. Korra faced tougher challenges than any avatar that we know of and grew a lot because of it. The messages and lessons are potrayed so beautifully. I tear up regularly watching it as an adult male.
I dunno, I found her more likable than Aang tbh. I have new appreciation for him, but he was never my favorite character. Aang was a little comedian and bundle of fun, but he was also quite manipulative and overbearing about his spirituality from time to time. His holier-than-thou demeanor could be really annoying when it came out in force. He was funny most of the time and you felt sympathy for how badly his life went up until then. But seeing him tell someone else they were wrong to pursue vengeance, and more directly his commitment to pacifism even when it actually threatened people’s lives rather protecting them, was frustrating to watch. But that’s not necessarily bad. Clashing ideals are great to see unfold. I agree with the sequel’s portrayal of him though, I think Aang and Toph were the worst parent material of the original Team Avatar, so seeing them fail at it pretty hard actually made sense to me.
It’s obvious that instead of making a kid into an Avatar, they did an Avatar into a person, which while an interesting premise, it can be argued that it wasn’t so too interesting with how it was portrayed beyond book 4. Book 1 was so bland and cheap with barely any growth that by the end they just hand Korra all elements and the avatar state without much development at all.
XYFC All the time. Okay, not all the time, but more so early on. He leveraged his kiddy attitude to get his way with Katara. He exploited his status as the Avatar for favors and attention, and he spent most of the series using his childlike disposition and rhetorical technicalities to avoid confronting the serious aspects of his destiny, such as his obligation to fight and potentially kill evildoers.
@@xyfc6077 In "The Southern Raiders" he kind of was policing katara on how she was allowed to grieve her mother's death. Trying to apply his culture's pacifistic teachings to someone from a different culture was always obnoxious to me imo.
I really enjoyed the Legend of Korra from start to end. It had its weak moments I will admit but I still really like it. I like the original Avatar slightly better but I hold both shows in high regard. Thank you for sharing your commentary on this show loved by so many.
What I love about Lin and Suyin’s relation with Toph is how it’s a direct result of her relationship with her parents, but in the complete opposite way. Because her parents were so strict and controlling Toph wanted to avoid doing the same which is why she was upset that Lin joined the police. She didn’t want her kids to follow in her footsteps because her parents forced her to adhere to their lifestyle, but she overcorrected with raising her kids and ended up becoming emotionally distant from her family. It felt so real for me and I appreciate the subtle nuance of Toph’s character development and how it affected her family.
As someone who watched ATLA as it aired and being the same age as Aang at that time, the show does reflect the thoughts and feelings that a kid who be going through if they were in Aang’s situation. The same can be said for LOK since the series ended with her at age 21, which was my age at that time. The creators of the series did a great job in capturing the ideas and themes that many original fans could identify with as they grew older. I think a big reason why some people don’t like Legend of Korra as much is because we are afraid to have the thoughts and feelings of the characters thrown back at us when we are striving for something nostalgic from the original series. While I still ATLA, Korra strikes a different chord within me that seems to be more relevant to me as an adult.
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Zaheer had great ideas but I think when you try to empower people on your terms without involving said people in the process of their own emancipation, it often happens what we see in the show: the power vacuum gets filled by, well, fascism. Even the show acknowledges how deeply educated, intelligent and talented Zaheer was, including after his "fall", but I think it's a great cautionary tale. You can't just get rid of power and be like "your problem now guys, peace" and leave. That's why it's so hard to build a genuine and functional revolutionary movement that lasts :(
idk at some point mako felt so empty and pointless to me, like we just keep him around because we don't want to be rude and give him a chance to have a cool looking scene... bolin almost always brought something to the table though, so I can only agree, bolin>mako
I always liked Bolin better than Mako. Bolin had way more character than him and had actually character development. Bolin was also way more likeable than Mako since the get go.
I'm so glad that people are becoming more vocal with facts about The Legend Of Korra. The pure hate is unjustified on the internet. Criticism is okay when done properly but putting a series down over and over along with its fans just because you don't like it, just ain't right. Next to The Legend Of Korra, other franchises i'm a fan of have been getting in tsunamis of negativity and i'm beyond tired of it
@Ivan Chernyshev I personally love all Star Wars movies, the prequels were my generation and my first cinema Star Wars experiences since i could only watch the old trilogy on VHS. I enjoy both old and new movies of Star Wars, it is awful that people become so toxic. Most of 2019 was also horrible for the people behind Pokémon Sword & Shield and they sadly remove to move on, it is 2020, can we all please move on and stop the toxicity + the pure hatred
@@kevisbanned9181 The modern style of bending, the wacky love triangle, the on and off character traits, and Korra losing her past lives is just to name a few.
Ok but...no one actually hates something for no apparent reason, that's a strawman, no one actually is just hating just cause they've a stick up their butt. They dislike the show for their own personal reasons, the same as how others may like the show.
honestly I hate how people try to argue that LoK is objectively bad, and worst of all, try to change the opinion of people that really liked the show. But I think it's really a trend nowadays, you can't just dislike something, you have to have everyone else agree with you on the reasons you disliked it, and if you don't you're like "blind" to it, you have to say that you like the thing *despite the reason people disliked it*, you have to admit that the people that don't like it are right in one way or another, it's really annoying :/
I think the main issue is that people act like everyone should respond the same to an objectively true statement. It’s possible to like something and objectively agree that said thing is bad. It’s all about how you perceive things. I can’t stand inconsistencies and I get pulled out of a movie when it happens. So naturally, things like the giant battle Unalaq and Korra really bothers me (korra isn’t the avatar at that point so can everyone turn into giant laser chest spirits?) However, that doesn’t because it bothers me that it bothers everyone
I honestly just hate it because I can't stand when stories give excessive reign to relationship drama. When mako kept bouncing between the women while in a relationship with the other. Completely removed me from the rest of the story. Couldn't finish it.
@@ryanalex4671 The people Korra went up against were Elite benders, similar to Azula (who was only beaten after a complete meltdown). People need to remember that bending continued to evolve over 70 years and people got harder to beat. I like to think that with all the experience Korra has, the next avatar will be more powerful than all before Avatars
@Sakuraxrox1 Aang was saved by his team too(Katara saved him when he got shot by Azula IN THE AVATAR STATE, a prime example of him being saved but whatevs) that's the main reason the Avatar has a team, to fall back on when all else fails, Korra was more dependent on them but that just shows how realistic the writers made her
Ryan Alex by the end of season 1 she isn’t a master tho, and by the end of the series she’s endured very traumatic PTSD and is a lot weaker then before, her avatar state is only weaker because of her lost of past lives. and she’s still pretty powerful considering how she created another spirit portal
I agree with you, what I love the most about Korra is that she is human, she is not perfect, her emotions burst her and that is just how we humans are.
i’ve been seeing a lot of people excited to give LOK another chance/first go. it really is such an emotion-filled show. i’m so glad i’m not the only one who absolutely loved it ❤️❤️❤️
Taylor Woodall yeah, many people said that they didn’t expect s1 (or show) being that good. Because of the haters. But there are also people who don’t like lok, but they respect the opinion of people who like/loves the show
The Legend of Korra is a pretty good show by itself even though it was quite poorly executed. Every Avatar fan HAS to admit that they enjoyed watching The Legend of Korra even though it's of course not as successful as ATLA, but at the same time, it doesn't mean (and it makes no sense at all) to start giving The Legend of Korra a LOT of hate when there were obviously so many good things about it that Avatar fans can't live without. The Legend of Korra just failed to be a good sequel to ATLA, that's it! Because it's world building doesn't correlate with ATLA's world building at all. Mainly because Bryke tried too hard to make the sequel a lot more "cooler" and "epic" in order to attract more fans.
Honestly I wasn’t sure how I felt about Korra in the beginning, and it wasn’t until the third and fourth seasons that I absolutely fell in love with Korra and the story that was being told. I feel like a lot of people who criticize the story don’t understand why it has the structure it has, or what the actual objective of the series is. Tlok was not intended to simply continue Aang’s story; that was what the comics are for. Tlok is about the same world from a perspective that is completely different than the one Aang had, and that’s what it’s supposed to be. I’m coming from a perspective of never having watched the series as a kid, so I don’t quite have the same nostalgic attachment to the series as some others, but I wish more people would acknowledge Korra and learn that characters are flawed and can struggle in different ways. Korra’s rehabilitation was an especially powerful moment for me when watching tlok, and so was the revealing of Jinora’s tattoos as she was declared an airbending master. One other thing that I adore about tlok is the soundtrack!! It’s such a powerful addition to the series that makes even the duller moments interesting. ❤️
3 minutes in and I have to say, this is *exactly* why season 4 is my favorite season, although I do think season 3 is the best overall. Korra Alone is my favorite episode from the entire series. But yes, seeing Korra's journey and seeing how she grows is simply spectacular.
Another thing I'd like to bring up that perfectly sums up the difference between the two series: "Anng is a human learning to be the avatar, Korra is an avatar learning to be human"
So glad to see so much positivity with The Legend of Korra. I actually like both avatar series. Of course I like TLA more but that doesn't mean that Legend of Korra is bad. I really enjoyed LOK and could connect to it as well. Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the series and I agree with most that was mentioned!
One of my favorite moments in LoK is when Mako talks about how Korra’s selflessness inspires him in Remembrances in Book 4. It highlights all the ways that the creators built his character up in Books 3 and 4 and the portrayal of an unhealthy romantic relationship growing to a healthy platonic friendship and even admiration is really wonderful. It joins the overarching themes of recognizing imperfection and of new beginnings in the show.
Yesss, ppl always seem to prefer LOK over ATLA or ATLA over LOK, which is fine to prefer a specific series better but I just don’t know why people don’t appreciate both as much as I do. I am OBSESSED with the avatar universe and I’m perfectly fine with both series.
A lot of what people like to complain about is that Korra "can bend all the elements as a baby" when it's literally just a thirty second clip of the tiniest bit of bending to introduce her personality 😩
@@cloud77hot40 It wasn't some intense OR controlled move, and it wasn't at the same time. She just did it, which, if you read the ATLA comics, Zuko's half sister did the same thing after a couple hours of trying to melt through a metal door (and this is her firebending for the first time! She wasn't even sure if she was one, or how to do it.)
I’m totally with you! 💜 I love both shows but I relate a lot more to Korra. Favorite moment: Iroh finds Korra in the spirit world and invites her to the tea party. Also the Wan arc is beautiful
The Wan two-parter is fantastic for so many reasons. I would love for them to do double-length episodes dedicated to a previous Avatar, and the conflicts they had to go through. Though I'm not sure how they'd tackle Szeto. He was more renowned for being an accountant than an Avatar, so i doubt that balancing the Fire Nation's checkbook for 45 minutes would make for good viewing xD
Aang: I had one little outburst after I found out my entire culture was destroyed after that every thing is all good Korra: Never mentally heals from traumatic experiences but goes on a journey to better herself Fanbase: Aang is the strongest avatar and Korra is the weakest Reality: Korra had to deal with stronger villains and tougher circumstances than Aang did, yet still became a stronger bender, both mentally and physically even without the help of his past life and others (Like seriously, she learnt earth and fire bending all on her own without any help)
About the Zaheer fight at the end of book 3, not only was Korra fighting off the poison, but that she was doing so without the power/knowledge of her past lives. That scene is pure Korra and Ravaa, which shows us how strong Korra really is.
I don’t think it’s particularly close to Aang’s character, but I do think it was an interesting plot device that helped drive growth for other characters. Definitely agree on some extra undeserved criticism of Korra, partly sexism, and partly because ATLA is so well loved and probably more rounded for a variety of reasons (Nick being awful during Korra’s development really changed how some season finales ran. S1 has a stronger first half than second, S2 is a clear weak point, but after the creators were given clear direction and ordering of S3/4 the quality definitely picked up, with S3 in particular being a high point of the series.
Great insights!! Especially about Aang investing so much time in Tenzin because he was basically the ONLY chance the airbending nation had to begin again. My favorite scene in the whole show was toward the end of season 2 (which really was bad in the first half, I actually stopped watching it for a bit) when Tenzin says to Korra, "Its not what you are, but WHO you are that counts" or something like that. It was exactly what she needed to hear after losing her connection to the past avatars. I really loved this show and how it tackled such tough realities through Korra, and watching her grow through her pain and fears is incredible to watch. Thank you for creating such a thoughtful video!!
Thank you! Glad to see others defend this show. People are allowed to dislike and like what they want, but I'm just happy that not everyone hates this show
I like this show. It's not perfect and it doesn't have to be perfect. My only problems were that the team avatar this time was kinda blank and i personally despise Ginora. They created some of the best villains i have ever seen and told some really appealing stories about Tenzin, Korra, Su, Lin and Zaheer. But s2 was hot garbage, i think that the Korrasami relationship came kinda out of the blue and with no such reason as to why. Still a pretty good show
The Legend of Korra is a pretty good show by itself even though it was quite poorly executed. Every Avatar fan HAS to admit that they enjoyed watching The Legend of Korra even though it's of course not as successful as ATLA, but at the same time, it doesn't mean (and it makes no sense at all) to start giving The Legend of Korra a LOT of hate when there were obviously so many good things about it that Avatar fans can't live without. The Legend of Korra just failed to be a good sequel to ATLA, that's it! Because it's world building doesn't correlate with ATLA's world building at all. Mainly because Bryke tried too hard to make the sequel a lot more "cooler" and "epic" in order to attract more fans.
This might me the best breakdown of a series I've watched so far. The way the the narrator broke down the pros and the cons of the reality of life gives it a more natural feel. Im a big fan of both ATLA and LOK. Both franchise gives us brilliant realizations.
Mako and Bolin's story is also a lesson in the power of rehabilitation over imprisonment. They broke the law to survive growing up. Bolin was going to work for the Triple Threat Triad before being taken by Amon. The criticisms of Korra are so common with female characters. It's straight up sexism.
I don't think it's sexism, I think it's just because she was a difficult character to like. There are plenty of characters in the Avatar universe, people loved, that happened to be women. Toph, Azula, Suki are some of the favourite characters,of the cast. I think your just mislabeling criticism as sexism
I agree with the first part of your comment, but I think I'll need a bit of elaboration on the second... do you have any examples of citicism solely stemming from sexism and maybe some counters to them on hand?
Sexism? Thats wrong. Nobodys being sexist. When i was a kid, i liked warchi g male-star action. Burt i gave korra a chance, cause another avatar... what could be better than that. I watched with the utmost attention, and then i didnt like it. Nobodys being sexist, theyre just giving their criticisms
Personally, I prefer The Legend of Korra. And I prefer Korra to Aang. I don’t know why the show and Korra herself just connected more with me so seeing you come to their defense was amazing.
Salvador Garcia me too! I especially relate to s3 and 4 korra. And I relate to jinora and opal to. And what you said it connect to me to. because it touches to things what in other shows and series they don’t do. It isn’t a typical story with a “perfect life” with “issues” or people being bullied but they don’t write what it really do with people. In atla it felt like the perfect teenage group, with the perfect teenagers, who don’t act like teenagers (imo) (Only zuko, Mai and ty lee acted like teenagers imo) in lok they acted like real teenagers with real issues. And what happened with korra in s4 it happened with many people. Personly I was almost depressed. And now that I see that there is finally a show that a theme like that I’m happy. And it connects more to me. But now I’m gonna stop with writing because it is a long ass comment what you didn’t ask for. (Srry for the bad English)
Salvador Garcia me too! I especially relate to s3 and 4 korra. And I relate to jinora and opal to. And what you said it connect to me to. because it touches to things what in other shows and series they don’t do. It isn’t a typical story with a “perfect life” with “issues” or people being bullied but they don’t write what it really do with people. In atla it felt like the perfect teenage group, with the perfect teenagers, who don’t act like teenagers (imo) (Only zuko, Mai and ty lee acted like teenagers imo) in lok they acted like real teenagers with real issues. And what happened with korra in s4 it happened with many people. Personly I was almost depressed. And now that I see that there is finally a show that a theme like that I’m happy. And it connects more to me. But now I’m gonna stop with writing because it is a long ass comment what you didn’t ask for. (Srry 4 the bad English)
I personally think Korra was a more realistic Avatar, with a bunch of faults, How I see it aang's journey was more physical with the bending and all, not saying that was the only thing in his jorney but it was more significant (the bending mastery). Korra's Jorney was more about personality and attitude, as she started off a bit aggressive, hot headed and all and learned to shape herself personality wise to become a better avatar.
Love to see korra get some love XD on tumblr i wrote a whole essay about how brilliant Korra's arch is. So i'd like to add that a thing i love about her trauma (which i feel bad to say XD) is that it was born out of what she probably viewed as her greatest success. Bringing back the air benders. In book 1 and 2 she made mistakes and she carries those with her, so to have her actions lead to the absolute positive for the world return of the airbenders i think she finally saw as her doing what she was meant to do as the avatar. so to then have that blow up in her face with zaheer is devastating in a multitude of ways. But the true nail that shakes her perception of self worth to the core is during Jinora's ceremony when tenzin tells her that they'll protect the balance until she can return. He means that in the best way, but the only way she can hear it is "the world doesn't need you." Her whole life, she was devoted to being a worthy avatar. She'd tied her self worth to how well she could perform that function. Its no coincidence that each villain of the series is essentially a direct attack on the existence of the avatar, questioning if such a thing is needed or does more harm than good. to have her face that and then to have what is essentially her family reinforce the idea that the avatar isn't needed, even if they implied that by accident, devastates her, and throws her entire idea of identity into question. and then to have her overcome that in book 4, to realize that she doesn't need to be the perfect avatar because there's no such thing, that all she needs is to be her best self, was incredible. her journey was learning that being simply korra was enough.
I really do not like season 2 and I think HelloFutureMe's summary of what's wrong with Raava and Vaatu says it all better than I could. That said, everything outside of that is so strong. The Zaheer season is my favorite but the issues in season 1 are also super relevant and deep. I also love Korra as a protagonist. She is headstrong just like a real teenager/young adult and I love that she doesn't shy away from her physical strength. She has so much personality and I feel like I grew up with her. I'm also glad you touched on Tenzin's journey. It's not often that the adults in a kids show get developed like that and JK Simmons really brought some gravitas to the show.
Appa didnt use weightlessness he controled air pressures around him to fly like airplane you have that video somwhere on Avatar: The Last Airbender channel
I never get it why people dislike Korra. I'm on the point where I believe that the most hate comes really from kids who don't understand the more adult grown-up storylines of Korra. I think ATLA was easier to watch for young kids. Personally, I don't know anyone in RL who dislikes the show so that my conclusion. The show has flaws but Atla has some too but most arguments from haters are just dumb and false and never understood what this series wants to show
10:11 i ABSOLUTELY agree. A lot of shows that are made based of past sources tend to lean towards what they know people will love, such as old characters, old settings and nolstalgia. Hence creating LOK is a VERY brave step, one that took a lot of planning, effort and ambition which i high respect and love. The creators dared to try new things, welcome change, whereas a lot of people are afraid of change. LOK brought SO MUCH MORE new things to the table, not just trying to milk out of its popular series like a lot of other shows do. The creators took the idea and world and did great stuff with it, extremely commendable. Thank you so much for ATLA and LOK.
One thing I wish was different about The Legend of Korra is the way it was “Americanized”, if that makes sense. The Last Airbender sets up this massive world drawing from Inuit, East Asian and South Asian cultures and The Legend of Korra basically just adds 1920’s New York right in the middle of it with Republic City. And in the final episode, Prince Wu saying he’s going to hold elections in the Earth Kingdom “like the United Republic” seems to be a thesis of sorts for the show - democracy is the best system and better than all the other systems that the villains seemed to represent (communism/socialism for Amon, theocracy for Unalaq, anarchy for Zaheer and fascism for Kuvira). I think it takes away some of what made The Last Airbender unique in terms of American TV shows, especially in terms of its messaging.
Stormraven tbh I wouldn’t say the 1920 New York, because the buildings arn’t really American buildings but imo more kinda asian. And only republic city is that way (so far I know) for the other city’s that I saw it wasn’t like republic city.
i actually read about this and i feel like Atla never only drew from the cultures that you listed. For instance the hippie singers feel american and so do the swamp waterbenders. also if you look into the music you can see that the instruments used for the soundtrack are from all over the world. please correct me if im wrong lol. they do criticize democracy too but the way the condemned the other systems outright could strike a wrong note with people so ur right about that hahah
It's giving very much so Asians can't do anything type vibe from you. You really think Hong Kong and Tokyo didn't look very much different from the surrounding areas? You probably think all Asians just eat rice and say ching chong huh?
12:47 THIS THIS THIS!!!! A character makes at least 1 flaw and people don't like them already??? Aang is a good guy but he's also human and he's supposed to make mistakes like a normal human being!!! Thank you so much for this!!!
I was so happy to hear your thoughts on how LOK "ruined" Aang's character when he hit adulthood. You pretty much said everything i've been telling other people, but people just hit me with the "No it's bad writing" I don't think it is imo. Not saying what Aang did was right for a parent, but i can see it happening
Books 3 and 4 were much better than 1 and 2. There were great moments in 1 and 2 as well but the writing quality drastically improved for 3 and 4. Korra and Asami's relationship is so much better than the tired love triangle plot of the first 2 books with Mako. Plus the villains in 3 and 4 are more complex and interesting which makes for better storytelling.
I guess but I can count the number of times they built up the Korrasami relationship on like one hand. Just felt a bit forced and out-of-nowhere. It’s also a bit weird because Asami, like Mako, doesn’t have a lot of definable character traits.
The writing quality improved because the creators actually knew they were gonna have 2 seasons to finish up instead of being in limbo. Thats what happens when you're given a clear timeline and expectations are set correctly.
@@papapiggie6697 Agreed. Nothing in the series ever hints at the two getting together, as the big question was whether they could be friends due to the Mako love triangle. Then at the end, and out of nowhere, they kiss. It was awfully built up.
I would like to point out that Aang loved his babies, all of them, equally. But he had a lot a pressure to keep the air bending legacy alive and knew, especially with his job, he could die at an earlier age and was the only one that could truly teach Tenzin that heritage. I think the point of that area of the episode is our parents are human and make mistakes, and that we also can misinterpret their actions and intentions. Issa Rae actually had an excellent example of this in relation to something she heard her mom say that she interpreted as criticism but was actually praise. And Aang absolutely has that sense of responsibility and focus to do something he didn't realize affected his children so much. It's okay for Aang to grow up and be imperfect. Even Katara made the mistake of not speaking up more, if at all, about it.
Also, goes LoK goes to show what other kinds of Villains the universe can have. TLA really had one main villain/Villain Group, Ozai/Fire Nation. LoK has Amon, Unalaq/Vaatu, Zaheer and Red Lotus, and Kuvira... each differing from each other, mostly. Also tackled some pretty heavier themes than those from TLA (or at least more relatable. Not every day someone has to go after the person who killed their mother or got locked in stasis for a hundred years)
The biggest problem with LoK is that the writers wanted to comment on political movements they didn't understand (communism with Amon and anarchism with Zaheer) and then end their protrayal of Kuvira (and her interactions with Bolin and Varrick through book 4) ends up a bit of the fascist apologist side
I actually think they did the anarchism with Zaheer perfectly. Zaheer’s quest for freedom actually made sense. I wish I could explain it well but I’ll give you a link, because that video explains it perfectly, like political philosophy. You can check it out if you want to. ruclips.net/video/OWcetuR3Jv0/видео.html
Thank you for being so thoughtful and graceful all throughout this. A lot of the time these sorts of videos tend to just pivot to defensive attacks towards already insincere criticism of the show, which to me just results in everyone's time being wasted. I love love loved this all the way through, thank you again for it :D
Little detail that I love is that the pro bending style, that short choppy bending that looks more like boxing is used by just about every bender we see from republic city and the only time we see that old Kung Fu style is from people from other nations I just love that it doesn't just exist in the ring that's the style the modem bending world uses
I love LoK. I think it has great stories. Korra’s arc is one of my favorite parts. I also love Bolin’s story in the final season. Zaheer and Kuvera are some of my favorite tv villains.
the avatar universe, with the addition of tlok reminds me of jjba with how they were able to create new stories in the same universe with the same powers and with the consequences of the last avatar like jojo parts do
My only major problem with korra is that nick wasn’t will to write a blank check for the production. A lot of the non romance problems in korra come down to not enough time to show.
For me Legend of Korra was a show of extreme highs and lows. I have a lot of issues with the show in terms of writing, lore and consistency, season 2 in particular, which are really really offputting to me. But then again, Tenzin's character arc, Varrick's script writing, Korra's PTSD recovery, the music, animation and choreography are such high points that are so well done that even the Last Airbender could learn a thing or two from it.
The Case for Korra is a much more intelligent and objective analysis. Korra is brilliantly relatable to late bloomers and people who suffer from trauma and PTSD who have the burden of pursuing their dreams despite what they suffer. Korra is the literal embodiment of a character who knew her gifts and destiny from a young age but who’s life and price she had to pay eventually made her feel left behind and incapable of reaching it. Meanwhile her friends live on and find success in their respective places. You know? Even if she had the head start earlier in life with the elements - she was severely held back by the process and lessons she had to learn.
20:00 FINALLY someone that actually address the fact that if were not for Katara saving and reviving Aang, there would be no Korra or even a Book 3 of TLA. People get so pissed off with Korra but forgets that Aang almost completely ended the cycle, while Korra was able to restore it, but without the access to her past lives.
I didn't hate Korra when it first aired but still felt it didn't live up to the writing of ATLA. But after re-watching it this past week I fell in love with it, especially book 3 and 4. I agree with you, I wish Korra was approved for all 4 seasons from the start so there was better structure. I know season 3 of Korra is the fan favorite but I honestly love season 4 the most. Watching Korra heal from her trauma was tragic and beautiful. I'm so happy I decided to re-watch and fall in love with these characters again!
the police force in lok has great comparisons to right now. and toph realizing policing doesn’t reduce crime could be a lesson a lot could use right now
Thank you for making this video. As a huge fan of both ATLA and TLOK it gets exhausting constantly seeing people trash TLOK for everything under the sun for simply being a different show with different intentions. I don't deny that the quality of TLOK suffered tremendously at some points because of Nickelodeon's bs, but to me that doesn't change and in fact reinforces how strong the writing was to deal with that and come out with a very strong second half.
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I want to mention how different people can have different takes on the same thing. I've watched a negative review of legend of Korra and it brought up a lot of the same point as you did, but had a negative view on it.
P.S This was commented before your comment was commented!
The thing that gets me, in hindsight, is how making Korra a firebender would make more sense and have the black lotus successfully kill the water and earth bender avatars when they were still children. It would explain the intense security Korra grew up with. It would establish the black lotus as a threat and it would further the antibender movement. With 30 years without an Avatar immediately after the century absence would also give more weight to the feeling of not needing an avatar most people seemed to have.
Riley you are cabbage
It’s fascinating to me that Aang and Korra would have been the “perfect” Avatars- for each other’s times. Korra would have been so well-suited to a one-on-one confrontation with Ozai that the story would have essentially been open and shut, whereas Aang would have excelled at the complex social challenges of Republic City that needed a diplomat.
imagine if it was the case...
we would've finished both series with only one or two seasons each😂😂 i liked the idea of their eras so opposite from one another❤️
interesting take. the writers were very talented to do this. they knew that in order to create a compelling show, they needed to give their avatars challenges they were not ready for. They needed to give their avatars a reason to grow and rise to meet the occasion. That created a compelling show for sure.
Fair, korras straight bending skill would crush the fire nation and aangs calm, diplomatic personality would totally be good in korras time
Korra learning air bending would have been hard in Aang's time though.
Korra would straight up kill Ozai without even thinking about alternatives. :D
Imo Probending is the perfect example of how to introduce a fantasy sport to a pre established world. You never once get a run down of the rules or the aim of the game and you learn about the sport just from watching it. I picked up the rules really easy. Even in sports like Quidditch from Harry Potter they have a whole scene which explains the rules
In the defense of HP, Harry didn't know the rules either and was an 11 year old in a school being asked to join the school team. So that's kind of the perfect environment to be taught the rules for something.
THIS. The way they didn't spoon feed the rules of the game to us and it was still perfectly understandable was top notch
And Quidditch is also just a horribly designed sport. I've been wanting to rant about this for a while, so here I go...
First of all, all the names are stupid, from a story perspective. I've got no time to learn all of these dumb names. Second, only the seekers really matter. Literally in that scene you mention: the game ends when the snitch is caught and catching the snitch gives so many points that it almost always wins the match. So the six hoops total, quaffles, chasers, and keepers only matter if one side is much better than the other. If one side is just a bit better, it doesn't matter, only the seekers matter and the beaters to the point that they inhibit the seekers.
Then lets move on to how it's organized: there is apparently very little to combat audience interference, neither proactive not retroactive. No spells are put in place to stop audience members from trying to magic players off their broom at Hogwarts, nor was there any penalty (that mattered) for the magic girls that make men horny (this was in a kids book!) at the international games. Anyone can do anything and the worst that'll happen is a penalty shot, during which the seekers can still look for the snitch and those are the only things that matter. IIRC Slytherin even used this tactic one year, by just targeting Harry, as they'd just win if their opponent's seeker gets injured as they can delay catching the snitch as long as they need to. Oh, yeah, that was also canon: the game continues if a player gets hospitalized in the middle of a game.
Also, apparently broomstick manufacturing is a fast developing industry as each year seemed to bring a new broom that completely invalidates the one before in every aspect. This was a missed opportunity for some interesting strategizing to have brooms that are more maneuverable vs fast vs stable vs easy to use, but more importantly: Hogwarts decided not to regulate it? They just let teams play on their own, top-of-the-line broom, giving a hefty advantage to the richer team in a school game! That is just ridiculous!
One more thing: there was also a spell Hermione used one day to make Harry's glasses not get wet during a bad weather game, which is apparently allowed, useful, very easy to do, yet not common practice...
So, it's a ridiculous game which is also criminally under-regulated. Okay, that was my rant. Love the books, but they certainly have their issues, one of which is that they're written by a horrible human.
Personally I thought Probending was lame. With all the crazy things you can do with bending all they could think of when developing a sport around it was flinging small rocks and 2 second bursts of fire and water? They could’ve been more creative with the sport then that and the fact we waste so much time in it just make it more apparent.
@@brandonlyon730 you have to place limits in order to make the game work. You can't have earthbenders throwing boulders and firebenders doing continuous streams of fire in a game like this.
I wish fight scenes in LOK were given more credit. They are so epic and amazing and the cast of characters are all incredible fighters (even Asami, who is a badass non bender) and the villains are up to par with the heros, maybe even stronger. Haters of the show fail to realize where the two shows are different and even where Korra is better, in the case of the fight scenes. Although I love many battles in ATLA, specifically the Azula vs Zuko and Katara one, the LOK ones just get better and better as the series progresses and Korra and the other characters become stronger emotionally and physically.
One of my favorite scenes, which is surprisingly not even a fight scene although I talked fight scenes up so much in that last paragraph, is the scene where Tarrlok commits suicide with his brother. The depressing intensity of the scene is what really gets me, and the way Tarrlok felt their relationship was too bruised to continue, so he just ended it. The pan away into the ocean, watching as the boat blows up is beautiful, and part of me wishes they got some closure with the other characters about their death, and the other part of me loves that is stays silent and is just a secluded moment no one else knows about.
100% agree with all you said!!
The fights and art are amazing
But I do wish Nick didn't set up the writters because it could've been better
The problem is that they are so different though, kind of ruins the avatar universe with what happens in the show. Then they make mako a fuck boy, and destroy the past avatars? Idk I think we would’ve been better off without the show. If it was a stand alone show then I would’ve liked it a lot more.
I feel that Amon also knew what was coming in that moment, but he let it happen.
Season 2 could have been cool with the civil war plot, but they ruined it with the God vs Satan and who has the bigger laser beam fight scene.
Am I the only one who found Amon genuinely terrifying, the idea of the characters losing their bending was very disturbing to me.
I found Zaheer more terrifying. Amon wasn't really a powerful bender, and never had the team that Zaheer had.
KimiDesu Amon can literally blood bend with his mind, and performed master level water bending techniques such as his water tornado to keep him far above water. Oh, did I mention the man can also take your bending away? I understand your point though, Zaheer was more trying to kill and cause chaos where Amon simply wanted to take peoples bending.
Another big difference between the series is story format. TLA is an episodic show with broad overlapping arcs (including an arc that goes from start to finish). Korra's seasons are complete story arcs, and the episodes therein are serial rather than episodic.
I think people were expecting more of the former when they watched Korra, but it really is apples and oranges. They're just different shows.
Thanks for explaining that, couldn't have put it in better words
This was the biggest thing for me, I loved TLA because of the overarching arc, which allowed for a lot of narrative mobility on the way to complete that arc to explore characters. I think the weaker part of Korra was the seasons being individual arcs and stories. That's why the end of TLA was so powerful when it ended, it was the result of years of one cohesive story. But this is literally all just my opinion, so take with a grain if salt lol
There's one problem though. Serialised shows need more episodes to properly develop their story. That's why most of them have 18-22 episode seasons. Korra on the other hand has twelve
I feel like that was the problem with the show, its not as well developed as it could be
I don’t think the story format is an issue. I enjoyed the 4 different stories for each season. think they could have taken out relationship drama and explore more of Raava’s story and abilities cuz she’s underdeveloped
tbh i absolutely love the scene where korra is poisoned by the red lotus... like how she fights going into the avatar state and sees her past foes.. the visuals and everything about that scene is so good
It really is
That’s what I really like about legend of korra, due to korra finding out she was the avatar at such a young age she has built her personality around that image. Unlike aang and previous avatars they have found out later so they are able to have a personality out side of it, korra didn’t go on a wold travel ( no fault of her own) to connect and find teachers she has a spiritual tie with. But that’s where her growth comes in, from a brash, quick tempered, slightly selfish and eager to fight people to a selfless, understanding, caring etc person. She realises that Yh she is the avatar but also that she is korra and she can’t keep trying to hold up to aang or the other avatars, as they all want peace but have to forge and find there own path aswell
Yup so true, and people call her a Mary Sue for not travelling the world and having teachers given to her, while I think it became a downfall because she never learned how the world is and it’s sad she didn’t find a place in it for a long time because of that. This is why she turned back on her father and Tenzin but than people call her stupid for trusting her uncle that told her the truth. Once she found out her uncle was lying she immediately went against her uncle. But I guess we can’t convince Korra haters that she wasn’t bad
The PTSD was the best for me
Bas Kuijpers Well I mean they have decent reasons to think she was bad. Idk in my opinion, I don’t hate it but it would’ve been better as a stand alone show. It’s a sequel to the TLA tho and it completely ruined it for me. Destroying the connection with past avatars, making it really modern (basically New York but in the avatar universe), and more. We would’ve been fine without it.
Korra started as a brash person and ended up being wise and kind. She was willing to make sacrifices to protect an enemy (saving kuvira from the spirit mech blast). that was very noble of her. people focus too much on her initial overbearing attitude when she was 16-17. But she did grow and changed for the better. Thats whats important.
Korra isn't selfish but ok.
You are genuinely one of the most uplifting channels on RUclips. Even going back to your old videos that got so much undeserved hate is just you trying to project more positivity in the world.
I've had a terrible day, a long running theme with me, so seeing you gush about something you love is so calming and is just a break from my awful mind. Sorry for doing my own gushing just glad I found your channel
No need to apologize, the world would be a better place if people expressed how they feel more often. So go ahead Gush out and Be proud
Shut the hell up. Korra fans are just pushovers who want the story to go their way. Keep living on that rainbow of yours while the normal ones will be on the ground laughing at you all😂😂😂😂
Homophobia isn't projecting more positivity into the world.
@@TheLesExit you get it
I love Korra’s character arc. She starts as a cocky avatar in training but quickly gets knocked down time and time again and by season 4 rolls by, she’s a more humbled and compassionate avatar :)
yeah, depression and ptsd does that to a person
i've seen legend of korra three times from start to finish but this video is making me feel like it's time for another rewatch
You love wasting time
@@kevisbanned9181 Yeah, who doesn't? But if you're enjoying yourself, is it really time wasted, huh?
sameeee
The argument that Korra is "too strong" and mastered the elements too soon is annoying. Korra is 18 by the time she masters firebending, 6 years older than Aang was, despite knowing that she was the avatar from a very young age
The thing is Aang didn’t really master earth, or fire bending.
Which is fine, we need to focus on her spiritual side. If that's the thing then we need to put her in situations that'll help her gain wisdom and insight. To help her spiritual self grow to be more stronger and smarter.
Let's say Amon took Korra's bending away in Ep. 4.
We can not only see how she struggles to deal with the loss of her identity but we see how she is able to bounce back. For instance, she punches the wall in anger and desperation. Korra realizes that she can prove Amon wrong. By making a fighting style that counter the chi blocker fighting style. Eventually after defeating Amon. She comes to understand that despite being knocked down. You can rise up again and again just like a Phoenix. She compares that to flames. You may put it out but it'll keep coming back one way or another. Thus she breaths in deeply before breathing out a small flame. Her firebending has become more spiritually intune then it has ever been beforehand. Therefore she can firebend once again.
That helps her grow more spiritually, emotionally and psychologically without going to a different area.
@@homingice6444 wait but isn't that the avatar
@@davidloza9316 but doesn't Korra need to work on those things or not?
We didn't have to leave republic city either unlike ATLA where they go everywhere.
If anything we could just flush out republic city.
No it's not because last time I checked. An avatar has never lost all of their bending. Aang lost his fire bending but got it back. However, he never lost all four elements at once.
@@cloud77hot40 i dunno man. i think he did master earth and fire-bending. he could have easily killed Ozai by redirecting lightning at Ozai, thus defeating him with fire-bending alone. he used his mastery of earth-bending to passively monitor Ozai's every movement, even with his back turned to him. All this was done without the avatar state. Aang definitely mastered earth and fire bending.
I once saw someone saying "Korra had 3 years and she was still broken, it was her fault that she got the ptsd and she couldn't even fix herself, she's a failure" (pretty much like this) and I was like, sorry? Trauma is not something that just disappear after few meeting with therapist, I honestly don't like this argument like seriously, imagine he said that to an actual person who has mental illness smh
Anyway, I wanna say I like LoK season 2 😂
I love all season of korra
Are you serious?! How can anyone be that heartless?
@@elisa4620 ??
No matter what people say about LOK, you gotta admit that both of the avatar series are both so well written, it's so satisfying to see the villains and protagonists developed so well. They are both so unique that it distincts them well from any other shows.
The best part about Mako is that he literally sets up KorrAsami by accident
Mako can be written out of Korra and no one would notice
@@LOSTLEAD8R yh i kinda didnt like him but i liked the series as much as ATLA
@@LOSTLEAD8R true, but as a teenager, I needed the angst
i think they would have met anyway since Asamis dad was one of the villains. They could still end up together.
@@LOSTLEAD8R I dont think so. I think Makorra shows how Korra changed in her emotional maturity. Her relationship with mako was toxic and half baked, and it really shows just how much she changed by the time she was ready to go with Asami
I honestly like Mako's character. It makes sense for him to be how he is considering his past. Left alone with Bolin to care for it makes sense for him to be serious, humorless and pretty much emotionally undeveloped, which arose problems in his relationships with Asami and Korra (Which, to be fair, I blame Korra and Asami more as to why the relationships didn't work out.) I feel like throughout the show Mako learns to deal better with his own feelings and grow much more patient (especially when he starts to work for Prince Wu, who really challenged his patience). Also I actually really like that Korra and Mako decide to go their own separate ways and remain friends after they see that them being together didn't work out, it made the character's relationships seem that much more realistic.
I love the Legend of Korra because of the animation and the badass characters and Korra is my favourite character.
Finally, someone spoke out about the greatness of LOK, both shows are awesome in their own way, Aang and Korra faced different conflicts in different times of course the plot will be very different
Thank you for putting exactly what I feel into words. One of the biggest complaints I hear is that Korra isn't as likeable by default as Aang. She is definitely arrogant and less likable in Books 1-2. But I agree with you, her story arc is about personal development, not bending. Korra faced tougher challenges than any avatar that we know of and grew a lot because of it. The messages and lessons are potrayed so beautifully. I tear up regularly watching it as an adult male.
I dunno, I found her more likable than Aang tbh. I have new appreciation for him, but he was never my favorite character.
Aang was a little comedian and bundle of fun, but he was also quite manipulative and overbearing about his spirituality from time to time. His holier-than-thou demeanor could be really annoying when it came out in force. He was funny most of the time and you felt sympathy for how badly his life went up until then. But seeing him tell someone else they were wrong to pursue vengeance, and more directly his commitment to pacifism even when it actually threatened people’s lives rather protecting them, was frustrating to watch. But that’s not necessarily bad. Clashing ideals are great to see unfold.
I agree with the sequel’s portrayal of him though, I think Aang and Toph were the worst parent material of the original Team Avatar, so seeing them fail at it pretty hard actually made sense to me.
KrazyKelor was aang ever manipulative????
It’s obvious that instead of making a kid into an Avatar, they did an Avatar into a person, which while an interesting premise, it can be argued that it wasn’t so too interesting with how it was portrayed beyond book 4. Book 1 was so bland and cheap with barely any growth that by the end they just hand Korra all elements and the avatar state without much development at all.
XYFC All the time. Okay, not all the time, but more so early on.
He leveraged his kiddy attitude to get his way with Katara. He exploited his status as the Avatar for favors and attention, and he spent most of the series using his childlike disposition and rhetorical technicalities to avoid confronting the serious aspects of his destiny, such as his obligation to fight and potentially kill evildoers.
@@xyfc6077 In "The Southern Raiders" he kind of was policing katara on how she was allowed to grieve her mother's death. Trying to apply his culture's pacifistic teachings to someone from a different culture was always obnoxious to me imo.
That Korra soundtrack still gets me teary eyed
yes the sound tracks are amazing
Especially the credits music.
I cried at the end of book 4, when korra and asami sat down together loooking at the sky and going into the spirit portal holding hands
I really enjoyed the Legend of Korra from start to end. It had its weak moments I will admit but I still really like it. I like the original Avatar slightly better but I hold both shows in high regard.
Thank you for sharing your commentary on this show loved by so many.
What I love about Lin and Suyin’s relation with Toph is how it’s a direct result of her relationship with her parents, but in the complete opposite way. Because her parents were so strict and controlling Toph wanted to avoid doing the same which is why she was upset that Lin joined the police. She didn’t want her kids to follow in her footsteps because her parents forced her to adhere to their lifestyle, but she overcorrected with raising her kids and ended up becoming emotionally distant from her family. It felt so real for me and I appreciate the subtle nuance of Toph’s character development and how it affected her family.
As someone who watched ATLA as it aired and being the same age as Aang at that time, the show does reflect the thoughts and feelings that a kid who be going through if they were in Aang’s situation. The same can be said for LOK since the series ended with her at age 21, which was my age at that time. The creators of the series did a great job in capturing the ideas and themes that many original fans could identify with as they grew older. I think a big reason why some people don’t like Legend of Korra as much is because we are afraid to have the thoughts and feelings of the characters thrown back at us when we are striving for something nostalgic from the original series. While I still ATLA, Korra strikes a different chord within me that seems to be more relevant to me as an adult.
#ZaheerWasRight #JusticeForZaheer
I am somehow not surprised to see you here or your message, godspeed to you.
Zaheer had great ideas but I think when you try to empower people on your terms without involving said people in the process of their own emancipation, it often happens what we see in the show: the power vacuum gets filled by, well, fascism. Even the show acknowledges how deeply educated, intelligent and talented Zaheer was, including after his "fall", but I think it's a great cautionary tale. You can't just get rid of power and be like "your problem now guys, peace" and leave. That's why it's so hard to build a genuine and functional revolutionary movement that lasts :(
@ yeah, it's a kind of substitutionism, akin to electoralism or physical force republicanism
Kai reminds me of Aladdin. Kids forced to steal to survive and then is gifted this power that changes their life.
Also Avatar Wan
It still blows my mind that people prefer Mako over Bolin!!!! Like did you SEE his Nuktuk outfit??????? Cmon
idk at some point mako felt so empty and pointless to me, like we just keep him around because we don't want to be rude and give him a chance to have a cool looking scene...
bolin almost always brought something to the table though, so I can only agree, bolin>mako
Bolin is a poor man's Sokka.
Bolin has huge himbo energy and I love him for that
They are both bland characters. It was the old smart and sexy/dumb and ugly duo trope. They were both disposable after season 1.
I always liked Bolin better than Mako. Bolin had way more character than him and had actually character development. Bolin was also way more likeable than Mako since the get go.
I'm so glad that people are becoming more vocal with facts about The Legend Of Korra. The pure hate is unjustified on the internet. Criticism is okay when done properly but putting a series down over and over along with its fans just because you don't like it, just ain't right. Next to The Legend Of Korra, other franchises i'm a fan of have been getting in tsunamis of negativity and i'm beyond tired of it
Mind sending this over to the Last Jedi haters?
@Ivan Chernyshev I personally love all Star Wars movies, the prequels were my generation and my first cinema Star Wars experiences since i could only watch the old trilogy on VHS. I enjoy both old and new movies of Star Wars, it is awful that people become so toxic. Most of 2019 was also horrible for the people behind Pokémon Sword & Shield and they sadly remove to move on, it is 2020, can we all please move on and stop the toxicity + the pure hatred
The hate isn't unjustified people have actual reasons why they dislike the show.
@@kevisbanned9181 The modern style of bending, the wacky love triangle, the on and off character traits, and Korra losing her past lives is just to name a few.
Ok but...no one actually hates something for no apparent reason, that's a strawman, no one actually is just hating just cause they've a stick up their butt. They dislike the show for their own personal reasons, the same as how others may like the show.
honestly I hate how people try to argue that LoK is objectively bad, and worst of all, try to change the opinion of people that really liked the show. But I think it's really a trend nowadays, you can't just dislike something, you have to have everyone else agree with you on the reasons you disliked it, and if you don't you're like "blind" to it, you have to say that you like the thing *despite the reason people disliked it*, you have to admit that the people that don't like it are right in one way or another, it's really annoying :/
Correction: The haters are VERY VERY VERY annoying!!!
Ugh, so true. You get called a sheep as if you don't have an opinion of your own
I think the main issue is that people act like everyone should respond the same to an objectively true statement. It’s possible to like something and objectively agree that said thing is bad. It’s all about how you perceive things. I can’t stand inconsistencies and I get pulled out of a movie when it happens. So naturally, things like the giant battle Unalaq and Korra really bothers me (korra isn’t the avatar at that point so can everyone turn into giant laser chest spirits?)
However, that doesn’t because it bothers me that it bothers everyone
If there had been no ATLA before Korra came out, people would have loved this show a lot, a LOT more.
I honestly just hate it because I can't stand when stories give excessive reign to relationship drama. When mako kept bouncing between the women while in a relationship with the other. Completely removed me from the rest of the story. Couldn't finish it.
In some ways I actually liked Korra better than TLA. I connected with Korra more than Aang and enjoyed seeing her grow into adulthood.
Me too, I think she was a more realistic Avatar...
from the first episode, korra was always a more relatable avatar, i love aang but korras journey is very human and relatable
Amahl Grant there’s no such thing as a realistic avatar
Same
Korra is trash bucket. Only likable things were old Toph destroying korra and Zaheer flying.
Also... THE MUSIC. The composer of both series is amazing
i think korra's is better
With TLOK coming out on Netflix tomorrow, I expect to see a surge of negativity surrounding the series. Guess we'll have to brace ourselves.
Sadly, but I’ll be on the Korra defense squad as much as possible
@@animetechnoblade1009 A fan after my own heart. Last few evenings i debate about LoK and debunk critisisms and nitpicks for hours.
It started weeks ago on twitter. Its so irritating like we went thru this shit the first time. Folks don't learn *sigh
On the contrary, I expect many of the new ATLA fans to enjoy this more than the initial crowd of people who watched with shades of nostalgia.
@@animetechnoblade1009 me too
Also, people who think Korra is weak, have you watched TLA recently? Aang gets the shit kicked out of him plenty of times too.
The problem is that by the end of season 1 she has all 4 elements and the avatar state and still loses, have you seen Aang lose in the Avatar State?
@@ryanalex4671 The people Korra went up against were Elite benders, similar to Azula (who was only beaten after a complete meltdown). People need to remember that bending continued to evolve over 70 years and people got harder to beat. I like to think that with all the experience Korra has, the next avatar will be more powerful than all before Avatars
@Sakuraxrox1 Aang was saved by his team too(Katara saved him when he got shot by Azula IN THE AVATAR STATE, a prime example of him being saved but whatevs) that's the main reason the Avatar has a team, to fall back on when all else fails, Korra was more dependent on them but that just shows how realistic the writers made her
Ryan Alex by the end of season 1 she isn’t a master tho, and by the end of the series she’s endured very traumatic PTSD and is a lot weaker then before, her avatar state is only weaker because of her lost of past lives. and she’s still pretty powerful considering how she created another spirit portal
Ryan Alex Aang literally would have died in the avatar state if not for katara’s spirit water lmao
I agree with you, what I love the most about Korra is that she is human, she is not perfect, her emotions burst her and that is just how we humans are.
Hmm but---
@@menkirdennis6686 But?
i’ve been seeing a lot of people excited to give LOK another chance/first go. it really is such an emotion-filled show. i’m so glad i’m not the only one who absolutely loved it ❤️❤️❤️
Taylor Woodall yeah, many people said that they didn’t expect s1 (or show) being that good. Because of the haters. But there are also people who don’t like lok, but they respect the opinion of people who like/loves the show
The Legend of Korra is a pretty good show by itself even though it was quite poorly executed. Every Avatar fan HAS to admit that they enjoyed watching The Legend of Korra even though it's of course not as successful as ATLA, but at the same time, it doesn't mean (and it makes no sense at all) to start giving The Legend of Korra a LOT of hate when there were obviously so many good things about it that Avatar fans can't live without. The Legend of Korra just failed to be a good sequel to ATLA, that's it! Because it's world building doesn't correlate with ATLA's world building at all. Mainly because Bryke tried too hard to make the sequel a lot more "cooler" and "epic" in order to attract more fans.
Honestly I wasn’t sure how I felt about Korra in the beginning, and it wasn’t until the third and fourth seasons that I absolutely fell in love with Korra and the story that was being told. I feel like a lot of people who criticize the story don’t understand why it has the structure it has, or what the actual objective of the series is. Tlok was not intended to simply continue Aang’s story; that was what the comics are for. Tlok is about the same world from a perspective that is completely different than the one Aang had, and that’s what it’s supposed to be. I’m coming from a perspective of never having watched the series as a kid, so I don’t quite have the same nostalgic attachment to the series as some others, but I wish more people would acknowledge Korra and learn that characters are flawed and can struggle in different ways. Korra’s rehabilitation was an especially powerful moment for me when watching tlok, and so was the revealing of Jinora’s tattoos as she was declared an airbending master. One other thing that I adore about tlok is the soundtrack!! It’s such a powerful addition to the series that makes even the duller moments interesting. ❤️
I love how katara understands her lashing out
3 minutes in and I have to say, this is *exactly* why season 4 is my favorite season, although I do think season 3 is the best overall. Korra Alone is my favorite episode from the entire series. But yes, seeing Korra's journey and seeing how she grows is simply spectacular.
Mako + Wu is the best relationship in TLOK
Wu down lol
No homo tho
Who hurt you...
i love wuko but we are not about to claim it's better than korrasami lmaooo
mako is annoying. wu is annoying. it's true love
Another thing I'd like to bring up that perfectly sums up the difference between the two series: "Anng is a human learning to be the avatar, Korra is an avatar learning to be human"
So glad to see so much positivity with The Legend of Korra. I actually like both avatar series. Of course I like TLA more but that doesn't mean that Legend of Korra is bad. I really enjoyed LOK and could connect to it as well. Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the series and I agree with most that was mentioned!
Lily Orchid: Exists
Riley: IMMA END THIS WOMAN’S CAREER!!!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. This comment is underrated
One of my favorite moments in LoK is when Mako talks about how Korra’s selflessness inspires him in Remembrances in Book 4. It highlights all the ways that the creators built his character up in Books 3 and 4 and the portrayal of an unhealthy romantic relationship growing to a healthy platonic friendship and even admiration is really wonderful. It joins the overarching themes of recognizing imperfection and of new beginnings in the show.
I liked both shows equally honestly. They’re both very good
Me too
Yesss, ppl always seem to prefer LOK over ATLA or ATLA over LOK, which is fine to prefer a specific series better but I just don’t know why people don’t appreciate both as much as I do. I am OBSESSED with the avatar universe and I’m perfectly fine with both series.
lit indeed!
@@lit5465 sounds like you already got your answer in your own question...
A lot of what people like to complain about is that Korra "can bend all the elements as a baby" when it's literally just a thirty second clip of the tiniest bit of bending to introduce her personality 😩
Yea but she still could bend Earth, Water, and Fire.
@@cloud77hot40 It wasn't some intense OR controlled move, and it wasn't at the same time. She just did it, which, if you read the ATLA comics, Zuko's half sister did the same thing after a couple hours of trying to melt through a metal door (and this is her firebending for the first time! She wasn't even sure if she was one, or how to do it.)
12:47 how the fandom treats iroh in a nutshell
I really love your avatar videos. You always give such well-stated insights into the shows. Keep on being awesome!
I’m totally with you! 💜 I love both shows but I relate a lot more to Korra.
Favorite moment: Iroh finds Korra in the spirit world and invites her to the tea party. Also the Wan arc is beautiful
The Wan two-parter is fantastic for so many reasons. I would love for them to do double-length episodes dedicated to a previous Avatar, and the conflicts they had to go through. Though I'm not sure how they'd tackle Szeto. He was more renowned for being an accountant than an Avatar, so i doubt that balancing the Fire Nation's checkbook for 45 minutes would make for good viewing xD
@@kattidiot *rolling my eyes*
@@gumballwatterson5037 ...ok?
Same
Aang: I had one little outburst after I found out my entire culture was destroyed after that every thing is all good
Korra: Never mentally heals from traumatic experiences but goes on a journey to better herself
Fanbase: Aang is the strongest avatar and Korra is the weakest
Reality: Korra had to deal with stronger villains and tougher circumstances than Aang did, yet still became a stronger bender, both mentally and physically even without the help of his past life and others (Like seriously, she learnt earth and fire bending all on her own without any help)
Korra's different and her story is deeper. Both are amazing!
About the Zaheer fight at the end of book 3, not only was Korra fighting off the poison, but that she was doing so without the power/knowledge of her past lives. That scene is pure Korra and Ravaa, which shows us how strong Korra really is.
I don’t think it’s particularly close to Aang’s character, but I do think it was an interesting plot device that helped drive growth for other characters. Definitely agree on some extra undeserved criticism of Korra, partly sexism, and partly because ATLA is so well loved and probably more rounded for a variety of reasons (Nick being awful during Korra’s development really changed how some season finales ran. S1 has a stronger first half than second, S2 is a clear weak point, but after the creators were given clear direction and ordering of S3/4 the quality definitely picked up, with S3 in particular being a high point of the series.
Idk. After a recent rewatch, i don't think season 2 was bad in any way.
Man i sure love hating on katara just because im a sexist male
@@xavi1825 yeah kyoshi is the worst avatar ever
Yeah i thought toph was a good character to bad shes female because i love sexism
Great insights!! Especially about Aang investing so much time in Tenzin because he was basically the ONLY chance the airbending nation had to begin again. My favorite scene in the whole show was toward the end of season 2 (which really was bad in the first half, I actually stopped watching it for a bit) when Tenzin says to Korra, "Its not what you are, but WHO you are that counts" or something like that. It was exactly what she needed to hear after losing her connection to the past avatars. I really loved this show and how it tackled such tough realities through Korra, and watching her grow through her pain and fears is incredible to watch. Thank you for creating such a thoughtful video!!
Thank you! Glad to see others defend this show.
People are allowed to dislike and like what they want, but I'm just happy that not everyone hates this show
The Legend of Korra has many problems (more due to technicalities than lack of talent from the writers) but I still think it is beautifully written.
That's how I feel
I like this show. It's not perfect and it doesn't have to be perfect. My only problems were that the team avatar this time was kinda blank and i personally despise Ginora. They created some of the best villains i have ever seen and told some really appealing stories about Tenzin, Korra, Su, Lin and Zaheer. But s2 was hot garbage, i think that the Korrasami relationship came kinda out of the blue and with no such reason as to why. Still a pretty good show
@KaMau Mau blame nickelodeon
The Legend of Korra is a pretty good show by itself even though it was quite poorly executed. Every Avatar fan HAS to admit that they enjoyed watching The Legend of Korra even though it's of course not as successful as ATLA, but at the same time, it doesn't mean (and it makes no sense at all) to start giving The Legend of Korra a LOT of hate when there were obviously so many good things about it that Avatar fans can't live without. The Legend of Korra just failed to be a good sequel to ATLA, that's it! Because it's world building doesn't correlate with ATLA's world building at all. Mainly because Bryke tried too hard to make the sequel a lot more "cooler" and "epic" in order to attract more fans.
@KaMau Mau True, it had many problems
But it came out good, sad that they set them up tho, cause it could've been amazing
This might me the best breakdown of a series I've watched so far. The way the the narrator broke down the pros and the cons of the reality of life gives it a more natural feel. Im a big fan of both ATLA and LOK. Both franchise gives us brilliant realizations.
Mako and Bolin's story is also a lesson in the power of rehabilitation over imprisonment. They broke the law to survive growing up. Bolin was going to work for the Triple Threat Triad before being taken by Amon. The criticisms of Korra are so common with female characters. It's straight up sexism.
I also felt that way about Korra, ice always wondered if people would hate her just as much if she were male instead
I don't think it's sexism, I think it's just because she was a difficult character to like. There are plenty of characters in the Avatar universe, people loved, that happened to be women. Toph, Azula, Suki are some of the favourite characters,of the cast. I think your just mislabeling criticism as sexism
I agree with the first part of your comment, but I think I'll need a bit of elaboration on the second...
do you have any examples of citicism solely stemming from sexism and maybe some counters to them on hand?
Sexism? Thats wrong. Nobodys being sexist. When i was a kid, i liked warchi g male-star action. Burt i gave korra a chance, cause another avatar... what could be better than that. I watched with the utmost attention, and then i didnt like it. Nobodys being sexist, theyre just giving their criticisms
Excellent analysis. Love LoK maybe even more than ATLA.
Personally, I prefer The Legend of Korra. And I prefer Korra to Aang. I don’t know why the show and Korra herself just connected more with me so seeing you come to their defense was amazing.
Agreed
Same here. For me I think it was my age. I was already 20 years old when ALAB started.
LoK feels more mature to me.
Salvador Garcia me too! I especially relate to s3 and 4 korra. And I relate to jinora and opal to. And what you said it connect to me to. because it touches to things what in other shows and series they don’t do. It isn’t a typical story with a “perfect life” with “issues” or people being bullied but they don’t write what it really do with people. In atla it felt like the perfect teenage group, with the perfect teenagers, who don’t act like teenagers (imo) (Only zuko, Mai and ty lee acted like teenagers imo) in lok they acted like real teenagers with real issues. And what happened with korra in s4 it happened with many people. Personly I was almost depressed. And now that I see that there is finally a show that a theme like that I’m happy. And it connects more to me. But now I’m gonna stop with writing because it is a long ass comment what you didn’t ask for. (Srry for the bad English)
Salvador Garcia me too! I especially relate to s3 and 4 korra. And I relate to jinora and opal to. And what you said it connect to me to. because it touches to things what in other shows and series they don’t do. It isn’t a typical story with a “perfect life” with “issues” or people being bullied but they don’t write what it really do with people. In atla it felt like the perfect teenage group, with the perfect teenagers, who don’t act like teenagers (imo) (Only zuko, Mai and ty lee acted like teenagers imo) in lok they acted like real teenagers with real issues. And what happened with korra in s4 it happened with many people. Personly I was almost depressed. And now that I see that there is finally a show that a theme like that I’m happy. And it connects more to me. But now I’m gonna stop with writing because it is a long ass comment what you didn’t ask for. (Srry 4 the bad English)
I personally think Korra was a more realistic Avatar, with a bunch of faults,
How I see it aang's journey was more physical with the bending and all, not saying that was the only thing in his jorney but it was more significant (the bending mastery).
Korra's Jorney was more about personality and attitude, as she started off a bit aggressive, hot headed and all and learned to shape herself personality wise to become a better avatar.
Korra is number 5 on Netflix!
number 2 now!
@@taytertots3448 Before I even searched, Netflix shoved it in my face. Ty Netflix! 😅
Love to see korra get some love XD on tumblr i wrote a whole essay about how brilliant Korra's arch is. So i'd like to add that a thing i love about her trauma (which i feel bad to say XD) is that it was born out of what she probably viewed as her greatest success. Bringing back the air benders. In book 1 and 2 she made mistakes and she carries those with her, so to have her actions lead to the absolute positive for the world return of the airbenders i think she finally saw as her doing what she was meant to do as the avatar. so to then have that blow up in her face with zaheer is devastating in a multitude of ways. But the true nail that shakes her perception of self worth to the core is during Jinora's ceremony when tenzin tells her that they'll protect the balance until she can return. He means that in the best way, but the only way she can hear it is "the world doesn't need you."
Her whole life, she was devoted to being a worthy avatar. She'd tied her self worth to how well she could perform that function. Its no coincidence that each villain of the series is essentially a direct attack on the existence of the avatar, questioning if such a thing is needed or does more harm than good. to have her face that and then to have what is essentially her family reinforce the idea that the avatar isn't needed, even if they implied that by accident, devastates her, and throws her entire idea of identity into question.
and then to have her overcome that in book 4, to realize that she doesn't need to be the perfect avatar because there's no such thing, that all she needs is to be her best self, was incredible. her journey was learning that being simply korra was enough.
I really do not like season 2 and I think HelloFutureMe's summary of what's wrong with Raava and Vaatu says it all better than I could. That said, everything outside of that is so strong. The Zaheer season is my favorite but the issues in season 1 are also super relevant and deep. I also love Korra as a protagonist. She is headstrong just like a real teenager/young adult and I love that she doesn't shy away from her physical strength. She has so much personality and I feel like I grew up with her. I'm also glad you touched on Tenzin's journey. It's not often that the adults in a kids show get developed like that and JK Simmons really brought some gravitas to the show.
I agree.
Raava and Vaatu were fucking stupid.
Yeah the symbolism they use for both raava and vaatu didn’t work since it came off more a Zoroastrianism than of dualism of Chinese Philosophy
Honestly the writing on healing and how damage is done is just the most beautiful thing.
“unlock an air bending ability we’ve never seen before” did you meet appa?
Appa didnt use weightlessness he controled air pressures around him to fly like airplane you have that video somwhere on Avatar: The Last Airbender channel
you know that's different write, right? (if that's a joke, i'm sorry for ruining it).
Appa is not a human.
True, kinda funny how it was called the last Airbender when appa himself was also an Airbender just not human
Aang would have LOVED KORRA for bringing back the Air benders. He would have been very proud of her.
I never get it why people dislike Korra.
I'm on the point where I believe that the most hate comes really from kids who don't understand the more adult grown-up storylines of Korra. I think ATLA was easier to watch for young kids. Personally, I don't know anyone in RL who dislikes the show so that my conclusion.
The show has flaws but Atla has some too but most arguments from haters are just dumb and false and never understood what this series wants to show
10:11 i ABSOLUTELY agree. A lot of shows that are made based of past sources tend to lean towards what they know people will love, such as old characters, old settings and nolstalgia. Hence creating LOK is a VERY brave step, one that took a lot of planning, effort and ambition which i high respect and love. The creators dared to try new things, welcome change, whereas a lot of people are afraid of change. LOK brought SO MUCH MORE new things to the table, not just trying to milk out of its popular series like a lot of other shows do. The creators took the idea and world and did great stuff with it, extremely commendable. Thank you so much for ATLA and LOK.
FINALLY! The amount of people who hate Korra just because she isn't Aang is uncanny! It's good to see somebody who sees it differently :)
One thing I wish was different about The Legend of Korra is the way it was “Americanized”, if that makes sense. The Last Airbender sets up this massive world drawing from Inuit, East Asian and South Asian cultures and The Legend of Korra basically just adds 1920’s New York right in the middle of it with Republic City. And in the final episode, Prince Wu saying he’s going to hold elections in the Earth Kingdom “like the United Republic” seems to be a thesis of sorts for the show - democracy is the best system and better than all the other systems that the villains seemed to represent (communism/socialism for Amon, theocracy for Unalaq, anarchy for Zaheer and fascism for Kuvira). I think it takes away some of what made The Last Airbender unique in terms of American TV shows, especially in terms of its messaging.
Stormraven tbh I wouldn’t say the 1920 New York, because the buildings arn’t really American buildings but imo more kinda asian. And only republic city is that way (so far I know) for the other city’s that I saw it wasn’t like republic city.
hmph i agree. but you can argue it was modernized not "americanized".
Actually the comics (Turf wars, and the ruins of the empire) talks about some of the flaws of democracy too
i actually read about this and i feel like Atla never only drew from the cultures that you listed. For instance the hippie singers feel american and so do the swamp waterbenders. also if you look into the music you can see that the instruments used for the soundtrack are from all over the world. please correct me if im wrong lol. they do criticize democracy too but the way the condemned the other systems outright could strike a wrong note with people so ur right about that hahah
It's giving very much so Asians can't do anything type vibe from you. You really think Hong Kong and Tokyo didn't look very much different from the surrounding areas? You probably think all Asians just eat rice and say ching chong huh?
The contrast for aang and korra is beatiful
Aang learned to be the avatar and a person
and
Korra learned to be a person and the avatar
12:47 THIS THIS THIS!!!! A character makes at least 1 flaw and people don't like them already??? Aang is a good guy but he's also human and he's supposed to make mistakes like a normal human being!!! Thank you so much for this!!!
I was so happy to hear your thoughts on how LOK "ruined" Aang's character when he hit adulthood. You pretty much said everything i've been telling other people, but people just hit me with the "No it's bad writing" I don't think it is imo. Not saying what Aang did was right for a parent, but i can see it happening
Books 3 and 4 were much better than 1 and 2. There were great moments in 1 and 2 as well but the writing quality drastically improved for 3 and 4. Korra and Asami's relationship is so much better than the tired love triangle plot of the first 2 books with Mako. Plus the villains in 3 and 4 are more complex and interesting which makes for better storytelling.
I guess but I can count the number of times they built up the Korrasami relationship on like one hand. Just felt a bit forced and out-of-nowhere. It’s also a bit weird because Asami, like Mako, doesn’t have a lot of definable character traits.
The writing quality improved because the creators actually knew they were gonna have 2 seasons to finish up instead of being in limbo.
Thats what happens when you're given a clear timeline and expectations are set correctly.
Bryke tried too hard to make the sequel a lot more "cooler" and "epic" in order to attract more fans.
@@papapiggie6697 Agreed. Nothing in the series ever hints at the two getting together, as the big question was whether they could be friends due to the Mako love triangle. Then at the end, and out of nowhere, they kiss. It was awfully built up.
Amon is interesting though
I would like to point out that Aang loved his babies, all of them, equally. But he had a lot a pressure to keep the air bending legacy alive and knew, especially with his job, he could die at an earlier age and was the only one that could truly teach Tenzin that heritage. I think the point of that area of the episode is our parents are human and make mistakes, and that we also can misinterpret their actions and intentions. Issa Rae actually had an excellent example of this in relation to something she heard her mom say that she interpreted as criticism but was actually praise.
And Aang absolutely has that sense of responsibility and focus to do something he didn't realize affected his children so much. It's okay for Aang to grow up and be imperfect. Even Katara made the mistake of not speaking up more, if at all, about it.
Also, goes LoK goes to show what other kinds of Villains the universe can have. TLA really had one main villain/Villain Group, Ozai/Fire Nation. LoK has Amon, Unalaq/Vaatu, Zaheer and Red Lotus, and Kuvira... each differing from each other, mostly. Also tackled some pretty heavier themes than those from TLA (or at least more relatable. Not every day someone has to go after the person who killed their mother or got locked in stasis for a hundred years)
The biggest problem with LoK is that the writers wanted to comment on political movements they didn't understand (communism with Amon and anarchism with Zaheer) and then end their protrayal of Kuvira (and her interactions with Bolin and Varrick through book 4) ends up a bit of the fascist apologist side
I actually think they did the anarchism with Zaheer perfectly. Zaheer’s quest for freedom actually made sense. I wish I could explain it well but I’ll give you a link, because that video explains it perfectly, like political philosophy. You can check it out if you want to.
ruclips.net/video/OWcetuR3Jv0/видео.html
Thank you for being so thoughtful and graceful all throughout this. A lot of the time these sorts of videos tend to just pivot to defensive attacks towards already insincere criticism of the show, which to me just results in everyone's time being wasted. I love love loved this all the way through, thank you again for it :D
Yay! Love your videos! I've used them to educate my closed minded sister & her children. Stay safe, peace & love!😄
korra is amazing i want more korra!!!
Little detail that I love is that the pro bending style, that short choppy bending that looks more like boxing is used by just about every bender we see from republic city and the only time we see that old Kung Fu style is from people from other nations I just love that it doesn't just exist in the ring that's the style the modem bending world uses
I love LoK. I think it has great stories. Korra’s arc is one of my favorite parts. I also love Bolin’s story in the final season. Zaheer and Kuvera are some of my favorite tv villains.
Korra's arc was super basic.
@@adeptdamage3669 So was Aang’s
the avatar universe, with the addition of tlok reminds me of jjba with how they were able to create new stories in the same universe with the same powers and with the consequences of the last avatar like jojo parts do
I do love watching Tenzin beat up Zaheer. Any fight with him is really interesting to me.
My only major problem with korra is that nick wasn’t will to write a blank check for the production. A lot of the non romance problems in korra come down to not enough time to show.
Don't hurt me for saying this.
Please. Don't hurt me.
I like LOK more than ATLA
Preach!!!!
Same!
Currently in a debate with my bf about LOK writing. And Your video has definitely helped me to support my argument.
For me Legend of Korra was a show of extreme highs and lows. I have a lot of issues with the show in terms of writing, lore and consistency, season 2 in particular, which are really really offputting to me. But then again, Tenzin's character arc, Varrick's script writing, Korra's PTSD recovery, the music, animation and choreography are such high points that are so well done that even the Last Airbender could learn a thing or two from it.
I freaking love you so much!!! This is why I love korra and you explain it perfectly
The Case for Korra is a much more intelligent and objective analysis.
Korra is brilliantly relatable to late bloomers and people who suffer from trauma and PTSD who have the burden of pursuing their dreams despite what they suffer.
Korra is the literal embodiment of a character who knew her gifts and destiny from a young age but who’s life and price she had to pay eventually made her feel left behind and incapable of reaching it.
Meanwhile her friends live on and find success in their respective places. You know? Even if she had the head start earlier in life with the elements - she was severely held back by the process and lessons she had to learn.
I realise now how much I forgot about this series, I need to rewatch it.
I still feel hurt they left me out of the show... 💔
20:00 FINALLY someone that actually address the fact that if were not for Katara saving and reviving Aang, there would be no Korra or even a Book 3 of TLA. People get so pissed off with Korra but forgets that Aang almost completely ended the cycle, while Korra was able to restore it, but without the access to her past lives.
Huh...seeing a lot of positivity for LOK Nowadays.
I welcome it.
I didn't hate Korra when it first aired but still felt it didn't live up to the writing of ATLA. But after re-watching it this past week I fell in love with it, especially book 3 and 4. I agree with you, I wish Korra was approved for all 4 seasons from the start so there was better structure. I know season 3 of Korra is the fan favorite but I honestly love season 4 the most. Watching Korra heal from her trauma was tragic and beautiful. I'm so happy I decided to re-watch and fall in love with these characters again!
the police force in lok has great comparisons to right now. and toph realizing policing doesn’t reduce crime could be a lesson a lot could use right now
Even though it doesn’t reduce crime it keeps people safe. You can see what lack of police presence does. Look at Chicago, Minneapolis etc
This has hit on all of the points that I think about whenever people say that Legend of Korra is bad!! I'm so happy my friend showed me this
Also the visuals and fight scenes in this series are everything😍
For me it’s hard to explain why I like LOK. I just do.
Thank you for making this video. As a huge fan of both ATLA and TLOK it gets exhausting constantly seeing people trash TLOK for everything under the sun for simply being a different show with different intentions. I don't deny that the quality of TLOK suffered tremendously at some points because of Nickelodeon's bs, but to me that doesn't change and in fact reinforces how strong the writing was to deal with that and come out with a very strong second half.
It’s refreshing to hear your perspective highlighting the good parts of the show
BEST ANALYSIS EVER! Thank you.