MLM HORROR STORIES #63 | Xyngular rep lies that weight loss is from the pills, not surgery
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The more you post about this, the more I want to do it with my husband. But, I have a feeling that he will not be up for it. I do think it would be so beneficial though and a great way to get to know him more!
*Edit: I signed up and we will see how it goes!
Trying the free trial with me and my husband .. literally did the first quiz and it felt good to get it all out .. will be doing monthly premium with your code! Thank you so much for the recommendation!
@@letstalkbabywearing I told my husband that it was important that we try it. So he agreed considering we are temporarily apart due to his job. I hope your husband agrees and y’all get to try it out. It was really helpful for us.
@@LoyalServant77 I got him to try for a little bit, but he typically just answered with jokes which didn't exactly help 🥴 but I did learn some things that were helpful!
"say hello to your fan club" was perhaps the most accurate thing I've ever seen. We all love Hannah, but we're definitely a Zeke&cooper fan club as well.
When I was divorcing my alcoholic, unemployed husband, he absolutely insisted that he get “custody” of the Amway. I was all, “oh golly gee I kinda wanted that. But if you insist.” Meanwhile, my innermost soul is shouting “Sucker!”
I am SO DISGUSTED that those daycare workers in story 2 were "working their biz" on the clock. AKA NEGLECTING THE CHILDREN. That daycare should frankly have been shut down forever.
I have a masters degree in microscopy and my guess is that they added something to the slide to make the cells move away or towards it, or that they simply put a lot more blood/saline on the slide the second time to make it move.
If you put too much solution on the slide it will move around for a while.
I was going to say the first sample was no anticoagulant vs the second sample with an anticoagulant.
@@shay9385 yeah that might do it. Just more or less salt in the saline solution would do somewhat the same trick. Anyways easy done 😅
I was also thinking: why would blood cells moving more outside of the body be a positive thing? You want your blood to clot as soon as it's out of your vessels, that means it's healthy (looking at both clotting factors and amount of healthy red blood cells).
I had a teacher with hemophilia once who said that if we had to call 112 (Dutch/European 911) after she fell we NEEDED to mention it so they could immediately send a medivac/traumahelicopter to bring her to the nearest university medical center because that was the only place she could be treated.
I'd rather have my blood clot and see it happening that this weird microscopy 'magic' (not real magic, I've studied biomed science, but you get my drift, hopefully). I would've probably been suspicious of it as a kid, or my mom would've been like: yeah, that's not good... She knew more about medical stuff at the time as she was in the process of becoming a physisian's assistant when I was around 10 years old.
@Ammalyrical I've seen this gimmic a lot before. They take a finger prick and smear it on a slide and when the cells are clumped they claim it's toxins or some other bs. I'm a lab tech and work with blood 40 hours a week, and many people don't understand that a crappy and clotted smear isn't representative of what your blood looks like inside your body.
I think it takes about 20 minutes for something you ingest to get to your blood stream, like drinking something sugary and having your blood sugar spike. It's not instantaneous unless you inject it directly into your blood stream.
As the mother of a type one diabetic I can say from years of experience that it takes at the very least a full 15 minutes for any sugar my daughter eats to change her blood sugar levels. I am extremely doubtful that any product from an MLM could show up in a blood test in just a minute or two. 😂
Absolutely!!!! And in 15 mins it's only just beginning to go up. So, agreed. Fully. That's what I thought Abt the one where the mom gave the kid candy and 8 mins later the kid peed herself and the "hun" mom blamed the candy .... I said there's NO WAY it had time to even DO ANYTHING. Omgosh. My husband is a type 1 also. So, fully aware. Sadly. Very sorry you're child has this awful disease and prayers for his or her health over his or her lifetime, and for you to have peace. Hugs.
I think someone else's deep dive on Herbalife explained it. The storefronts don't have food licenses so you can't buy drinks from them normally and that's why they can't have "café" or "bar" or any related restaurant words in the names. You're paying for a membership to the nutrition club and then you can ingest whatever they give you without inspections or licenses.
The idea of an alcohol-based MLM filled me with terror. Jesus, now that's a disaster in the waiting, what with reps consistently beign obsessed with the company's products and pushing them onto people...
Also, the fact that the "hun" was asking an 18 year old to provide alcohol to her guests. How was an 18 year old supposed to purchase that alcohol legally? The legal age in the U.S. is 21, since the 1980s
just in case anyone finds this interesting:
Flaschengeist literally translated is "bottle ghost/spirit" and means genie in a bottle. but there is also a pun. Geist can refer to hard burned(?idk how it's made haha) liquor, like Schnapps. i'd have to do research on the etymology myself but basically there is relation between the latin spiritus as both spirit/ghost and alcohol. so the genie in a bottle here is also the liquor in a bottle :D
I can help!
The alcohol-related "Geist" (spirit) refers to a specific type of alcoholic drink and the distillation process: fruits that are aromatic but low in sugar (one process for creating alcohol is fermentation but you need sugar for that) are put in a neutral alcohol base. Once the liquid has taken on the aroma of the fruits, it's distilled.
In comparison: sugary fruits can be fermented directly to create the mash ("Maische"). If you distil that, the result is called "Brand". (Ironically, if I'm not mistaken, "Brandy" might actually be a Geist, as are some forms of "Weinbrand" which is not to be confused with "Branntwein" but I'll admit upfront that I'm happily confused by it all and care only peripherally since I'm neither a fan of Geist, Brand, Branntwein, or the bureaucracy behind it all).
To add to the whole ghosty pun-i-ness: Geist can also mean "wit", so there's a lot of pun-potential in several directions regarding alcohol and "Geist". Someone can be "geistreich" (ghost-rich/spirit-rich) because they're witty, or because they're the opposite of witty after having too much "Geist" from the bottle.
It's all horrible but yeah, "Flaschengeist" is a German word and a pun.
That's really interesting!
I have a friend that sold a protein weight loss powder. I don’t remember what it was because it was probably 10 years ago. She lost tons of weight to where she looked unhealthy. I later found out that she had quit taking her thyroid medicine in order to make people think she lost all that weight from the powder! Very very dangerous! I never bought any of the powder by the way! She had to start taking her thyroid medicine again and then she just gained the weight back but at least she was healthy! It’s scary The links that people will go to to sell products!
My last drunk was at a Silpada jewelry party. I did indeed buy a necklace and earrings set. Luckily, I was too 💩faced to be a target for recruitment. The earrings broke, but I still have and wear the necklace. I sort of smh every time I put it on. 12 years sober today!
The employees at the Tupperware party should’ve said “the manager can see payroll, she knows we don’t have any money to help her”
So incredibly predatory by the manager to try to steal back their hard earned money to her business. And same with the college professor. These are the worst things and should be illegal because a manager and professor is in a power possition where people might be pressured to join against their will in fear of it affecting their salary or grades. Disgusts me so much this is okay.
Right? Like she's their boss, she's got to be making more money than they are.
That is seriously inappropriate and an abuse of her power. If she’s in any way in charge of their reviews (or pay increases, promotions, etc) or signing off on them, it puts the employees in an awkward situation, plus they’re inebriated. HR and legal would not approve.
The University story...the administration of the school really should know about this...not to mention at least doing their part in making sure their students are aware of the predatory practices that many MLM's make.
I have a feeling that with a massive company like Amway, they probably have helped fund the school in some way, so administration would turn a blind eye to any complaints. The massive MLM's have hooked themselves in very deep and high up on government ladders.
“flaschengeist” in german basically means “bottle ghost” or “spirit glass” so it makes sense that it’s a “boo”ze mlm 🤪👻
Damn, I hate how cute that is haha
It saddens me that this isn't just a Halloween themed cocktail...
A "Flaschengeist" is a genie in a bottle. Also Geist can mean a special kind of beverage with a high percentage of alkohol.
Never heard of this company, though.
@@Tindome-ib6el thanks for letting me know! german is my second language so sometimes i miss the colloquialisms/metaphorical meanings
As a former fitness professional, I’ve had my fair share of people trying to suck me into their MLMs.
Sometimes I wonder how some huns can be so shameless and not even embarrassed with some of their wild shenanigans. Like knocking on doors to create a diy blowtorch with dry shampoo, like middle school boys when they learn they can do that with their Axe body spray or mom’s hairspray and a lighter. 💀
Axe deserves to be set on fire
What happened to the childcare workplace, the way MLMs took over all of their social interactions, is exactly what happened to my moms group when I had young children. I didn't know the term MLM, but I quickly figured out that all these "parties" we started having came with a literal price. I called them "paying parties" and eventually explained that "I have a personal policy not to attend a party where there's selling." I don't think any of those women are still involved in any of those MLMS.
Lol 😁 I also followed that rule long before anti-MLM
I'm not pregnant but I DEEPLY relate to this smoothie story. If I think of a smoothie, I *desperately* need one, nothing will satisfy me.
Same! And getting a shake instead would probably make me angry.
So I'm not sure if this is because I'm from the Midwest but a shake has ice cream and a smoothie is normally a fruit and veggie blend.
Illinois here, to me a smoothie has some kind of milk mixed in.
It's not where you're from, your just right, smoothies, fruit, ice, maybe some juice, maybe some yogurt but absolutely no ice cream, that's a milk shake anyway you look at it, at least that's how I see it
@@bethewalt7385 absolutely
Canada here (lived in multiple provinces from coast to coast) and same. A shake is ice cream blended with something liquid (and if the icecream just sits on top it's a float.) A smoothie is all the other thick fruity drinks, which may or may not include yogurt, but never ice cream.
20:35 I’m a scientist and I work in a clean room. Since the suits we wear look pretty funny and our machines are kinda cool, the lab has big windows out onto the sidewalk so people can look in and watch. I always wave at them when I notice them looking!
Holy shit, I went to college in Grand Rapids too. I also had a tour of the Amway facility as part of my microbiology class. I must have repressed the memory as I didn't even think of it until now.
1 hour of work left but there is always time for mlm horror story 😂
Oof. I was heavily recruited by someone with Optavia because of my “dramatic weight loss”. Yes, I had dramatic before & after photos. But that was because I had weight loss surgery (which this opt coach was well aware of). I had NEVER even touched optavia products. But they tried to convince me I’d be really successful because of my photos. Yikes.
Oh I'm sure the photos would help you do great! But that's not a good thing 😬
Zeke’s fan club over here!! Just started watching and I am already smiling. 😻🥰😻
I always love the kitty cameos
When I was like 18 I got invited to an arbonne party and they were basically feeding us booze so I’m not really surprised by the fact there was lots of booze there. Obviously they intend for it to help you decide to buy in.
Was this in the US or elsewhere?
@@val1500 Canada, and even then I was still underage
It was interesting to hear the Amway horror story from Grand Rapids. I lived there from the mid sixties to the early 70's. Grand Rapids, Michigan is in the 5th Congressional District, of which Gerald Ford was the State Representative for many years, amd he and Richard DeVos were close, long-time friends. I was in either 11th or 12th grade in high school when we had an assembly all about this wonderful company founded in a garage by two local men. We heard the whole story of its beginning and growth, and how perfect an opportunity this would be for us to make some money for college. The speaker? Gerald Ford. A future President of the United States was pitching Amway to a bunch of kids, ages 16 - 18. Just goes to show what some folks will do for a Bro. Or campaign donations?
Story 2 really speaks to how hustle culture encourages people to monetize every aspect of their lives.
Zingular just reminds me of the old Cingular cellphone service 😂
Lol what a time
Excellent! Serious case of the Monday blues and this is the best distraction. Good luck for the next few weeks. Wishing you all health and joy.
My Monday is my blah day. I need energy. But no mlm drinks!.
Once you pointed out in a past video that Herbalife shops usually have "Nutrition" in the name, I've noticed something like five of them in my area!
Paired is absolutely the best thing me and my boyfriend could do
My husband and I love it so much!
Oh yeah me and my bf get into some really important deep conversations that we would never have naturally had I love it so much
Herbalife fronts want your info so they can "help you work toward your goals" 🙄 because they usually also have you check boxes on what your goals are, like gaining muscle/losing weight/gain weight, etc
What I got out of this video...
1. I want a smoothie and now am going to make myself after I'm done with putting away laundry. And
2. MLMs have been and always will be so damn scammy!
eta: why is Costco food so dang tasty!?
Story 3 - As a West Michigan native who attended school in the Grand Rapids suburbs - yes. Yes to all of this. We had one prom in the Amway Grand Plaza hotel and the other prom was at the Frederick Meijer Butterfly Gardens --- It's completely a normal right of passage LoL
Yes! Same! 💕
I went to gvsu and we had sooooo many events at these places!
Herbalife has a whole set of sketchy rules for these nutrition clubs. It's gross. I remember seeing deep dives from a few other anti-mlm creators on that topic. It's very interesting and eye opening
John Oliver did a great dive into it on Last Week Tonight.
Sometimes I feel bad about having some Tupperware containers, then I remember that they're older than I am and were my grandmother's. I would never support them myself, but these are here already and I don't want to replace them just because I detest the company.
I did Avon when I was young and didn't know it was an MLM. I didn't know we were suppose to "recruit" and just did it because I am an overly social person and it worked well with the job I had at the time. For me I was like I sell Avon if you are interested and if the person was I sold Avon. I never got the pitch that I could make SOOOO much money or if I had my own "team" how much money I could make, so I think I got really lucky. I loved getting samples to gift to people and to play with with some of the money I made. It was just fun. When I tried Mary Kay, I hated it because I had to have inventory and how do you even know what to have ins tock and it just cost so much money to have it running. I preferred Avon. I have been pitched many other MLM over the years without knowing what an MLM was, but they all just sounded too good to be true or too much work with too little payout so I just stayed faraway from them luckily. Love your content!
Where the hell have I been? She’s pregnant?! mashallah!!! ❤❤❤love you Hannah you’re going to be the best mom!! No Mary Kay parties for your baby. 😂😂❤
I’m an Early Childhood Educator in Canada so I work in daycare you can work in preschools and programs similar to that. We work with kids 9 months to 6yrs. MLMs are very popular in this field because we aren’t paid well at all and are treated like the help, in Canada teachers make good money unlike the USA and we are pushing for similar pay as we do true same job just with younger children Mat leave is also 12 months here so typically the youngest is 12 months but sometimes a bit younger if mom goes off early.
Commenting for the algorithm! Also because your horror story videos are the best.
Fingers crossed that your baby girl will make her arrival any day now! Good luck Hannah!
Man all that talk about smoothies in the last story has DEFINITELY made me want one too 😭😭😭
Currently fighting off a horrible flu and the idea of a fresh, icy, fruity smoothie soothing my sore throat in this Australian summer heat sounds divine hahaha
My Japanese grandmother was also part of Neways. I KNEW it was an mlm omg I knew it lol😂
I have a Neways hand towel
The need for a smoothie while pregnant is real. I remember going to tropical smoothie at least twice a week when pregnant with my daughter....and now I want one
Funnily enough, I saw that your video thumbnail referenced taking a field trip to an MLM before I clicked on the video. I thought to myself, "reminds me of when I was in middle school and they took us to Amway"... and that's exactly what was going on, lol. Grand Rapids is my hometown, too, though I haven't lived there in over a decade now. My experience happened under a business education program called Junior Achievement, they usually came to see us at school once per week, but this trip was a special occasion where we joined them away from school to see a business in action, I suppose. I think that someone's parents must have complained, because they never took us anywhere again, but I have clear memories of them handing us bright red lipsticks made on site, and pens that they taught us to assemble piece by piece. I looked into it, and they're still affiliated with MLMs like Amway to this day.
Bonus fact: Later on when I was in college, a high school acquaintance of mine attempted to get me into Amway under him, but it was never gonna happen. It was all really shady.
I had a xyngular rep hit me up and tell me I needed to loose weight. I do, but that's not for her to tell me. 😂 Anyway I told her no, I'm happy with how I look and feel.
Yea, sure, soo happy. So which is it? Are you happy or you know you need to loose weight? It can't be both. Mlms are not the solution but neither is denail and mixed masseges.
I was having a really bad day today, but then I saw your video and it really cheered me up! Thank you!
Me too.
Another memory unlocked - I did not now Neways was a MLM. I remember growing up that my Grandma always used Neway products whenever we visited. She just bought them, wasn't in it or anything, but wow I remember never seeing the brand except for her place. Mind blowing finding out now that it is an MLM.
I really love Tupperware products. My grandma gave me her old set when I moved into my new house and it works so well for me. Its seventies Orange color lol
Herbalife clubs are treated as a club. Giving your info makes you a “member” Herbalife guidelines says these clubs are technically not open to the public and “members” must be invited. But yeah it’s basically just to have your contact info to harass you and I’m sure HL (allegedly) sells customer data.
Also HL clubs are not to be operating visible to the public hence blacked out windows/closed curtains.
There’s a bunch of weird rules.
That second story- I know how OP must have felt! My own bachelorette party (which my friend arranged) ended up being a Pure Romance party. With a rep whose parties I'd been to before and recognized me, and she directly commented on something I'd commented on a previous party, as I was sitting between my mother & sister on one side and my mother in law on the other side 💀
"Flaschengeist" translates to "spirit in a bottle". Like a genie. I also immediately thought of alkohol when I heard that one.
I adore Zeke! He’s such a good kitty!
I remember going to a Tupperware internal event when I was 17 or 18. My friend's mom was a rep and hadn't been doing well and was being pressured into bringing 2 people to the meeting. My friend's last name was different from his mom's so she just had us come, told us we didn't have to buy anything and don't mention our ages or connection to her, and I got some free stuff.
I sent my bestie videos from you and others about the Herbalife shops and she stopped going.
Long story short I was riding with her and she was so excited about a nutrition shop she goes to that Id heard her talk about previously, and bc of the videos Ive seen even just sitting in car waiting for her I had suspicion it was an infamous Herbalife shop. I figured it out after questioning her on the process she went through to order it was indeed one. It took several months for her to stop going. I told her about the info I had heard about the, but what sealed the deal for her to ask for the videos was: they aren't DHEC regulated, and being former F&B people in our early years she knew how gross that meant things could be. Once the door opened for her to hear more she was out and now subtly tells others she doesn't go anymore bc it's not exactly what it claims to be. Keep up the great work and enjoy your new baby(when she gets here)!
The best way to start a Monday morning 🙌🏻
I did not realize some thing with the story about Emily that I used to live in Orlando and the Orlando arena got renamed to the Amway Center. As in it went from Orlando Arena, then to the TD Waterhouse, and then family center. I’m not sure if that’s related but I didn’t realize that until just now. I mean Amway
The Body Shop has an MLM arm??? I had no idea - only ever experienced it as a normal shop.
I know I’m not the only one who really enjoys the fact that I only get MLM ads for this channel now😂 The irony of the wasted pitch🎉
Perfectly timed for my lunch break today! I always look forward to these.
I am wishing you the best labor, delivery and postpartum. ❤️ my daughter is 11 months tomorrow and it has been such a wild ride! Cannot wait for a family update 💕
I love cooking and listening to your videos. Makes this daily task so much more pleasant!
CONGRATS on almost being through your pregnancy and welcoming your sweet little one-wishing you a safe happy and healthy delivery!❤️
The smoothie story has me cracking up.
Perfect thing to watch while drinking my coffee
Ugh I needed this 😌
At the point where the Herbalife person asked for my name and email address before she would let me buy a drink, I would have walked out. That being said, I've never been pregnant and craving a particular thing 😅
Tupperware? 😮 What in the 1983 is going on? I didn’t know Tupperware was still a thing.
Had no idea Tupperware was an MLM until I cam across your videls. Here in the PH, it became synonymous to all food storage things that resembled a Tupperware.
We just use it as a generic noun here, and no longer a specific brand.
The girl who worked in the childcare center said that some of her coworkers worked for Partylite and Pure Romance? How were they setting up booths for those for a child care end of year market? That's insane
Omg, thats why one of the moms on my son's baseball team has a 5 ft "Tupperware" slapped up and down the side of her car. I thought it was strange that she "sold" that much Tupperware. Didn't know it was MLM. Yikes.
The amway field trip one blew my mind a little. I was doing an internship near Orlando over the summer and the company I worked for built the Amway center. I didn't think much about it beyond it being one of the company's big projects and just recognized the MLM connection. I was not prepared for that info lmao
Yes!!! I just got laundry out to fold and saw this!
If you walk into any kind of food service establishment, at least in Kentucky, where I live, they are required to have the health inspection certificate prominently displayed. If the grade received is not at least a 98%, turn and RUN, do not walk out the door.
Gonna try paired, this is great!!! Thank you and can’t wait to finish the rest of the vid ❤
I'm going to sign up too!
I agree, it sucks that every Christmas I am gifted mlm nonsense from my mother in law. 😅 its my least favorite part of the holiday.
Wait, wait, wait. Is the Body Shop an MLM?!
Yep.
It does have an MLM component called ‘the body shop at home’ the stores aren’t part of the MLM but now because they started an MLM piece of their company I will never in a million years support their company ever again.
Yeah, it has an MLM branch :( The MLM part of the company is (I believe) considered separate from the retail store, but it is an MLM nonetheless.
Oh no!!! I love the Body Shop and I had no idea. God dammit, this is so disappointing.
Sure is
To me, that Amway Tour would have made so much more sense if 1. The tour in itself was done completely in Spanish, 2. You were highly encouraged to ask questions in Spanish and 3. Were told that Amway was really trying to find people that could join them to sell their products to people who speak it as their first language. Obviously Spanish is the 2nd main language in the USA, and they could have also helped spread the word on Zoom calls to mainly Spanish speaking countries. And, since you would be bilingual, could seriously help any communications issues between English and Spanish reps. They didn’t even TRY to hide the real sales pitch.
I love seeing your kitty come through the videos :)
I love your horror stories videos. I swear I’ve seen like every one at least twice
No not usually. Oral ingestion doesn’t get to the blood for any wear between 30 minutes and 3 hours.
the whole "factory tour and museum room" thing is actually pretty standard for non mlms. I have been on a few factory tour field trips to legit places (jiffy, federal reserve...) and they had those too.
just for the record, I agree on the info required to make a purchase, BUT, bath and bodyworks does that, and so does tractor supply.
Just the spelling of Zing as Xyng makes me feel like i'm about to have a heart attack.
I have a friend who works for Xyngular corporate in compliance. So he gets to coach the distributors and marketing about what they can and cannot say. Luckily he knows that being a distributor for an mlm is crap
Yes! Lunch break video!!!❤❤❤
As someone who worked for AHC, Amway’s hospitality company, story 3 was especially triggering 😂
We have an herbalife shop here and they sell food and stuff too and are super chill. It took a while to figure out it was what it was, but they have really good waffles. When i figured out what it was i stopped going
I’ve heard of the blood draw thing! It must’ve been a dif mlm channel. Maybe Savannah Marie? But in that case I think they used blood that was drawn before the presentation started. Then they did it and by the time they got to the slide bit it had aged. Then they drew new blood and it behaved like blood that wasn’t an hour old lol
Notification crew! 😎😻
Good afternoon from Sweden 🇸🇪
@@north-bound *waves from Scotland* 🏴
Hey from Ireland 😂🇮🇪
Zeke's just grooming you into a pyramid scheme
One could say that OP1 wasn’t punished so much as she was… hun-ished.
(I’ll see myself out.)
I live in the Melaleuca capital. Lol. Frank Vandersloot has done a lot for us though. He puts on our amazing 4th of July firework show
As a laboratory scientist, the blood draw is so laughable. Oral medication can't act that fast, because it has to be processed by the digestive system. Blood also doesn't have different movements under a microscope, and it can't "flow". The cells just look like they're wiggling if they move at all.
I HOPE YOU LOVE YOUR BIRTH! YOURE GONNA BE SO HAPPY AND SLEEPY!
I am so sad I use to work at Amways manufacturing plant. I use to stand still in one spot for hours just creating those “starter packs” and putting them in boxes 😢
I was just sent an invite to this xyngular thing. I researched and was liked nope!
Hey friends 😊🎉 happy mat leave Hannah ❤❤❤
Them visiting Amway head quarters made me think about the very creepy movie Halloween 3, hope these people where not blown up as an experiment.
Not moving on from that! I didn't know Costco sold smoothies! Hold the phone! I've been grocery shopping smoothie-less for too long!!!!!!!!!
25:30 #1 the reason why the blood under the microscope looked “clumpy” is because it was coagulated. So they switched the slide for the first viewing. Then when they drew his blood again and it wasn’t coagulating yet. That’s why there’s a difference.
#2 The other theory I have is they drew his blood and put it on the slide. Then had the person drink something and waited a minute then drew his blood again and compared the two slides. Blood coagulates fast.