That's not adultery, that's rape, what BS to pass it off as cheating on his wife, to downplay what he did, how infuriating, amazing courage from the victim for calling him out.
@Jessie even if it is doesn't make it right. Age of consent in my state is 16 and its absolutely disgusting that a grown adult is legally allowed to be with someone under age.
@Jessie the fact that the first response is to ask what the ask of consent is should tell you a lot :/ it shouldn't matter what the age of consent is: he groomed her, he abused his power as an authority figure over her. She was a child, regardless of what the law says. She was a child and he abused her. Full stop.
@Jessie Being the age of consent doesn’t mean it’s not r@pe. Coercion of any kind, such as forcing/manipulating her as an authority or powerful figure in the community, would still make it r@pe.
The woman who stood up and said she was only 16? That’s our BAMF of the day right there. The absolute courage that took. She went on STAGE. And took the mike from her ABUSER. And told a roomful of people, I guess for the first time ever, of her deepest, darkest pain. What a badass. What an absolute champion. I pray her community bands around her and she finally gets some of the healing she deserves.
I think her anger gave her courage, he was trying to "come clean" but leave out all the dirty details, like he raped her on his office floor. She might not have struggled, but that doesn't qualify as informed consent from an adult.. If someone is trying to downplay the worst thing that ever happened to me at their hands, for multiple years and it's the cause of all my mental anguish? I'd probably be too angry to be scared, I'm glad she found the courage.
Less courage and more blinded by emotions I'd say. Doesn't sound like she was ever quiet about the situations so her anger probably just boiled up to the point of her objecting very publicly. Good for her regardless
The pastor didn’t want to get it off his chest. He was confronted, and likely given an ultimatum to fess up, or have it exposed in a way that was outside his control.
Right. I’m not a religious person but if this man gets into ‘heaven’ after this shit then I’m glad as hell I don’t practice. I don’t want any part of a heaven that allows someone to rape a child and then go ‘oopsie!’ I’m sorry! And still be let in.
@@porkupineexe6862 Since he did it for 22 years wouldn't the timer start since he last abused her? Or would that no longer count as abuse since she was past legal age at that point?
@@cevcena6692 Not a lawyer but from what I understand. She can file for every count inside there statue of limitations. The earliest ones will probably be outside those limits. The shit bags defence is going to have a field day with "It when on for so long. She wanted it, why is she coming forward now? It was scummy but it isn't like he was raping a child (Which he totally did but that evidence isn't admissible for all these newer incidents)".
Hearing those parish voices (especially the men) yell out in righteous anger towards the pastor questioning his actions… felt good. Felt fucking good. Like, those guys sounded like they were ready to punch that pedafile in the face, for both the retribution of the assaulted victim and for his disgusting betrayal of trust. I’m a solid Christian… and I’m proud that the majority of that parish just didn’t roll over, but in spite of the long years of knowing that pastor, that that community believed the woman’s account and fucking immediately held that douchebag accountable. Those are good people and an example of true Christianity right there. They don’t stand for an iota of that shit in their church and community.
It's insane how common it is for shit like this to happen and the congregation to cover it up. I personally know women who had similar experiences when younger and even their parents wanted it kept quiet to "protect the congregation" but like who the fuck is protecting the kids man what the actual fuck
Slightly disagree on the swimming thing. People die in astronomical numbers in perfectly survivable scenarios. I don’t think it should be mandatory in university. It should be mandatory in preschool.
I think that’s what Phil’s point was - that it’s weird a university requires it, when it should be taught at least at the high school level (but I agree with you on pre school).
A lot of US universities mandate the swim test too. Off the top of my head Cornell and MIT do, and I'm sure many other peer institutions do as well Edit: Harvard also does this
greg abbott said in a news conference that the shooting in uvalde "could have been worse" and it made me so unbelievably angry. the phrase "could have been worse" absolutely devalues the lives that were already lost. yes, one, two, hundreds more people could have died. but expressing "it could have been worse" to the public, to the families of the children who have been murdered, is so disrespectful. imagine your child dying, and the GOVERNOR saying "it could have been worse." for me, if my child died, NOTHING could be worse. at least to me, it seems absolutely tasteless.
the problem is you're hanging on words he said. he was killed by a border patrol agent. meaning the situation could of been way horrible then it was. this idiot who wanted to kill people should of just did us a favor and offed themselves before hurting anyone
"It could have been worse" really pisses me off. Yeah, of course it could have been worse but it also could have been better! It could be better if anyone would do anything about this! I don't even understand how someone could look at over a dozen dead and say "it could be worse"
I want a protest of him and his, and I want it to be videos and pictures of those kids. I want videos of them laughing and crying and yelling to *haunt* him and his kind. I don't know how to do this. Does he have social media? Are the families willing to mass post those videos to his account? To every account against gun control laws? Against better mental health programs?
I attended my ten-year old son's graduation today in silent and hidden tears. I couldn't stop imagining 19 families had their children taken from them and they'll never get to see them again, let alone see them graduate from elementary school. It felt so wrong to enjoy this ceremony, it hurt so much.
well you're in for a horrifically sad nightmare when you google how thousands of innocent children the media didn't fixate on for political traction also died the day this shooting took place. Every life is precious and children's lives are the most precious of all, but 19 out of SeveralThousand shouldn't be getting 99.9% of the airtime. It is though because gun debates are perfect to rile idiots up for election day. This is the same trick they used to get Trump elected. Airtime = engagement = political donations. They know you cannot see past the outrage long enough to do the math on your own. They know the death of children in school will break your hearts and more importantly loosen up your wallets. If you really cared about your kids lives you would push for Driverless Cars and public transportation. And you would have also schooled them in a private school or at home with personal educators far away from institutionalized learning which in and of itself is more dangerous to children than all mass shootings ever combined. If you can stop crying long enough to google the numbers, you should clearly see that at any given time we have 30,000,000 kids in institutional learning facilities (schools) at any given time. And the likelihood that any of those 30,000,000 kids will be killed in school by gun violence is VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY SMALL. Yes that many very's and all in caps. Nearly all kids who die prematurely do so at home, under the direct supervision of loved ones, or in the passenger seat of a car. Think about that long and hard once you are done crying for just 19 of the thousands of children who died this day, like every other day, and all other days to come. There are regulatory measures we can take that are bipartisan and affordable to save thousands of children's lives every single day. There is and never will be a measure of gun control that will provide similar protections. Even the complete banning of all firearms would result in MORE harm to children than less. Never respond to anything in anger. Never make a decision using feelings. Humans do not possess the innate ability to judge risk, or calculate probability. You cannot and should never trust your gut reaction to events like these. The math cannot lie to you. Your gut will about 50% of the time.
@@richievalle623 that's because you're uneducated and all current media is engineered to scare uneducated people with outrageous events so they will keep watching through the commercial breaks and vote "teamWhateverYouWatch" at the polls supplying the wealth consolidators with just the illusion of Democracy they need to continue raping and pillaging the US Treasury.
The Uvalde incident is absolutely horrific... I'm curious as to how an 18 year old who lives with Grandma was able to afford $5,000 worth of firearms, Scopes, ammo, and body armor.
Working, trading, gifts from relatives, maybe selling some stuff. I knew someone in high school who inherited a little more than that from a grandparent.
@@XavierPlayR you think that was his plan since he was 16? Save up all his money just to do this and never tell a soul (except a random girl online just minutes before the attack) for 2 years? I’m not saying that’s not what Hellenes, but that’s pretty wild if that’s the case…
@@certifiedpineappletree6708 i would think yes. It is a fantasy to people like this hence the very least that needs to happen is the age of purchase needs to be raised
I'm so proud of her for getting up in front of all those people and giving her truth! NEVER let someone take away from who you are and I hope she can properly heal .
True, that must have been difficult. Though I wonder why she kept congregating in that church or if she was there only that day to unmask him because she knew he was going to resign as a pastor and play victim
If he took her for all those years, she's now too old to have a child of her own with a man she loves (unless she already did and it's not mentioned). That's not fully fixable.
@@ginandromeda1618 So the thing with establishing a relationship with a church and the people that go to that church is that it becomes a part of your life. These people become another family and it's really hard to move away from that. I've heard similar stories and stories of coming out where people were too afraid to lose that connection they have.
@@johndododoe1411 she is married now. He said it was 20 years ago. She said it started 27 years ago. So he must have been abusing this poor girl for around 7 years.
I can't imagine how hard it would be to keep going after being wrongfully imprisoned for decades. It's insane that the "justice" system can just steal people's lives like they're nothing.
Racism. So many of these horrible stories coming out of the US, and that are still happening daily in the US, are *strictly and solely* happening because of racism and the institutionalized racism inherent in the US legal system. (Note: it's sure as fuck not a justice system!)
It wouldn't surprise me if the prosecutors fight with all their might to get the man back in jail, because otherwise they are admitting that their office where all in on hiding evidence and other wrong doings.
Because it's for profit. Even government run prisons are for profit in terms of private contractors providing services, and the fact that it's still legal to use slave labor in the US as long as the person is a slave as punishment for a crime. And since bribery is legal in the US, if you make money locking people up, what do you do? Bribe politicians to lock more people up, society be damned. The US's fundamental problem is the idea that making money is the ultimate good. Everything will be better if you just make it a money making venture. You can't let the government do things, because the government isn't part of the almighty free market. The US "justice" system is working exactly as intended, it's just that the intended function isn't what's being sold to the public.
The congregation supporting that woman actually made me cry. "You did it, you need to admit to it", that tone of voice. I just don't expect people attending those kinds of churches to stand up like this. I just. Really appreciate it. Despite how it seems so often, humanity has evolved. We have come a long way to 2022.
Christians these days are so tied into the conservative ideology that they often forget their own humanity. But deep down, they're good people trying to be better
I do appreciate the fact that the congregation was standing by the woman and refusing to let the pastor make excuses. I'm so used to church-goers (not all) blindly following their pastor no matter what they confessed (or didn't confess) to doing, so it was refreshing to see them openly disgusted with their disgraced pastor.
A church near here, around 20 years back, the preacher suddenly went wild and started doing all sorts of things, cheating included. Obviously with a woman in the church. Well, one morning his wife caught her in the parking lot and beat her down. No word on whether or not he got the same.
Unfortunately this wasn’t the full video. In the full video that is shown in the article that is linked in the description, a lot of the congregation did a huddle/prayer around him at the end. Half of them did remain seated which was good. But as a victim of SA and grooming it is really upsetting to see a lot of them so forgiving at the end, since the pastor literally admitted that she was 16.
@@Weirdo_of_Oz exactly. It is honestly so messed up. And for some of the congregation (not all since some thankfully did remain seated) to be so forgiving is just disgusting. They are literally bystanders to this.
Fact that the pastor tried to hide the girl's age until the last moment suggests that he didn't go on this confession rant out of guilty conscience but rather that he knew the lies were gonna come out and wanted to preemptively minimize the damage. I see you, you snake.
My son turned 10 last week. He’s the sweetest boy. I can’t even imagine him not coming home to me. As someone with severe anxiety and panic disorder, I have began to disassociate when I here about mass shootings. I just can’t process the grief.
I don't know if this will help, but school shootings are extraordinarily rare. I know the news doesn't make it seem that way but they are. Based on my quick math, it's 0.0004% of all gun deaths, which are themselves only a small portion of total deaths (0.01%). Your son will be safe. Just worry about continuing to be a good parent, not about school shootings. 🫂 Let me know if you want links to the data or if there's anything else I can do to help.
@@piloslencure7884 No one cares about stats that get recorded after mass shootings have been done. It’s just been increasing rapidly and nothing’s being done to lessen or prevent it. Stats aren’t going to make the parents feel better after they lost their sources of pride and joy.
I'm sorry that didn't help you. I don't want you to ever know the pain of losing a child and will do my part to help affect positive change. I hope your days are filled with less worry and lots of happiness.
@@piloslencure7884 tell that to the parents of slain children of these "rare" school shootings, I'm sure that will comfort them too! I think I understand where you are coming from but seriously dude...
@@piloslencure7884 if you want quick maths, out of 20360 child or adolescent (aged 1-19) deaths in 2016. 4074 were from car crashes. Just beating firearm related child deaths at 3143, of which 1865 of those being homicide..... homicides with firearm is double how many drownings there was in 2016. We wear seatbelts and fence in pools with child safe locks, but mention gun control and fuckheads in the pocket of the NRA but a stop to that.
That poor man has been in jail my whole life. I cannot imagine. I cannot put into words how wild that is to even realize. That man looks like one of my uncles and it complete breaks my heart. Crosley Green i am hoping for the best for your case and a wonderful life of freedom. Even though I dont even know how life will be out of prison especially being elderly. Man these stories have been hitting today, this world makes you hate it more and more.
Kim Hallock projected her feelings, saying "deep down inside he knows that he is right where he's supposed to be." I think she is living in hell for this and will never be able to look at it in the face.
there is American Jury system for you.... how can few random idiots decide fates of people ffs.... just think about how dumb average person is.... christ, US is so weird
Well that's the problem. The successful overturn of 1 case means they have to go through all cases of similar incidents. Which they know will just lead to more people found as wrongly convicted. Which back then it was just get a black man in prison at all cost, so all judges and jury did it. So they have to make it absolutely difficult to deter innocent people from seeking the same thing.
The problem is that most times when they do find an attorney or prosecutor who withheld or corrupted evidence - they’re long out of the office and the office has no power to make them face repercussions at that point. Do I think that’s wrong? Absolutely. But that’s currently how the system is designed. That’s why there’s little consequence for these situations because by the time the truth comes out - if it ever does - to much time has passed to actually do anything. It’s not right but it’s how it is.
When he admitted to adultery I was willing to respect him a bit for owning up to it, but then Phil said wait there's more and I just knew it would involve a kid somehow. It's terribly depressing how predictable men like this are...I hope he rots and I very much hope she receives the help and support she deserves.
@@pollytix7271 Bit of a sussy thing to say. Adultery is fucked up but not illegal, It's immoral. Molesting and having sex with a minor is both amoral and illegal. If you don't see what the pastor did as bad, that's on you. Also, considering the victim and abuser both confirmed it happened, it's not alleged.
I felt the same way. Pretty brave to admit your mistakes, but abusing a child is not a mistake. It's a choice. I agree with Phil though, there is so much hypocrisy in religion.
"Our country is diseased and many of the people put into power are denying you medicine." Goddamn Phil, if that's not the truth in a nutshell. Please don't ever stop doing what you do. As enraging as it is and as exhausting as it must be for you and your crew, please don't stop. We NEED voices like yours in times like today. Thank you.
too bad he's mad at guns because that's the Narrative. Maybe when him and all the sheeple stop bleating their suffering screams all over each other like every opportunity to express their outrage is an invitation to a blind orgy, actual solutions to systemic problems can be addressed. But while you are all exaggerating the loss of 19 lives, thousands more innocent children died. A large majority of which are actually preventable through regulation. And if Phil truly wanted to help stop gun violence, he'd stop using these events for personal gains.
I saw that in motion when my little brother got wind of the news from his friends, he skipped sadness and went to rage, and I feel the same too, but also a kind of hopelessness thanks to the inaction and repetition of the same gruesome events
@Joshua Grahm not really trying to get into a political debate, I was trying to show support for the victims and their families. But I believe when you make a law, you’re making a law for a law abiding citizen. Criminals will not follow laws, if anything really we should be arming more good people so that we can have a faster response to these kind of situations.
Appreciate you doing something. Donating directly to the Gofundme would have probably been better though, since RUclips will be eating up 30% of this donation.
@@lucast7092 Wish that was the case, however in both the military and churches the abusers get treated much better than they should while the victims are either ignored or shamed.
@@lucast7092 tell that to the hundreds of thousands of victims in America alone abused by their churches, whos abusers have and continue to get away scot free. Let’s not act like it’s a small minority that turn their heard or straight up shame abuse victims. How often have you seen people shame their priests and pastors and not support them?
The way the pastor situation played out is super sus too. There's no way he "decided to come clean", the girl was clearly on the brink of outting this and he was just trying to get ahead of it. Such a garbage human being on so many levels. Dude probably felt the relief of a life time when he thought he was free of it before she ripped his asshole apart with that confession.
Yep. He tried to make it at sound like a typical affair between adults, and he didn’t have the balls to admit it even after the congregation confronted him.
When I was part of a church, well two, both has two pastors who cheated on their wives. Which, fucked up all in all. And I’m the grapevine it’s always the: “you need to go to and tell them what happened or we will”
you are exactly right. it turned out that other leaders of the church had been told what happened by the woman, and had confronted him, so this was their 'solution' in order for him to quit but the church not have controversy. but the woman wasn't gonna let him get away with lying and trying ot make himself or the church look better.
Yeah, that girl already had her speech ready (not trying to downplay her, just saying it's obvious she was ready to speak up and he thought he'd spin her narrative)
I actually live in Warsaw Indiana and used to attend this guy's church. It was a suprise to most of the auidence, but they layed hands on him and forgave him on the spot. Some people walked out. My grandmother was there for the whole thing and was just shocked and confused. It was a suprise, and awoke my town pretty heavily. The guy is getting run out of town however, but I hope that talking about it he never finds work in ministry ever again.
Honestly, I am loving pissed off DeFranco. These last couple episodes have been some of your best work man. Letting it out, letting the world fucking hear what needs to be heard. Thank you man! It's about fuckin time we started this here revolution.
It leads to extremely bad biased news reporting which barely can be constituted as reporting. He's choosing a side and goes on the offensive against the other side based on strawman arguments and angry emotion. Might as well apply to join CNN or ABC at this point.
Hearing his sister say how happy she was to finally have him around at holidays again absolutely broke my heart... That family deserves to make up for lost time
It breaks my heart just thinking what these parents are currently going through😔My daughter still has another week of school left until summer break, but this morning before leaving for work I woke her up, hug and kiss her and told her I loved her.
I’m not sure what the parents are going through…. Probably funeral brochures. All in all, it is tragic though. However.. it happens so much in this country it’s ridiculous.
It’s heartbreaking that saying goodbye to your child before school feels like saying goodbye to someone going off to war… this country needs to protect its children.
America's justice system is a glorified slaver racket. That's what happens when you monetise prison labour. Wrongful and unjust imprisonment is a feature, not a bug.
@@auliamate last week tonight on wrongful convictions. its insanely difficult to overturn a ruling, since you basicially suddenly have to provide evidence that the prosecutors didnt even have or withheld.
"I feel that I have been drained from the ability to be sad". OMG, can I relate to that! Thank you Phil for putting words on something I have dealt with the last 2 years!
It called burnout. Unfortunately, the only thing I've found helps is ignoring the news - compartmentalising it - and then be the best person I can for others.
@Abasisten you’re not actually going to sit here and claim you can do as much damage with a knife as you can an assault rifle. If you believe that you’re just as deranged as the kids who do these shootings.
I’m a Canadian living in Germany, and the gun thing is just so absurd. My son is in fourth grade, and it’s just heartbreaking and absurd to imagine something like that would happen to him and his classmate. It’s enraging. 😫
I've really appreciated all of the interviews and direct sources in the past few shows. I hope y'all are able to keep getting these responses to comment requests.
Phil gave a fair warning. He said today's show was gonna be a doozy, and my idiotic self thought I'd be fine. This is by no means Phil's fault, but this video has thoroughly destroyed me mentally and emotionally and I think I'm just gonna call it a day at 6:00pm.
It is crazy how much skin color affects things. I hate this, but I am so glad that I am not darker. It shouldn't be that way, but my life would be so much harder if I was, and I know that from being a POC. That guy is in prison entirely for being black, and the sentence for that crime is a lifetime of punishment, whether you are put in prison or not.
yeah, over here a politician got shot in the head, killer out after 13 years (granted, that may be too lenient), in Brazil a guy killed 71 people of which 47 while in prison, got out after 42 years. Meanwhile this man, guilty of nothing more than breathing while black is still locked up after over 30 years? And he'd be lucky to get a settlement after all this, despite money not bringing your 30+ wasted years back. God forbid they hold the prosecutor or detectives responsible.
Loving the new set… breaks things up and with so much happening, being at home feels good. Wishing comfort and peace to the families because 2022 shouldn’t be like this 🥺
I am a teacher in Texas. This is my life everyday: Wondering if it’s my school next. And politicians do NOTHING. They love their guns and money too much.
But the public carrying guns all over the place stops it. I'm sorry but I'm so sick of seeing US citizens who talk about how tired they are of it, yet half hearted protests if any and life goes on as their children die. You as US citizens don't care, if you did you would do something about it. It's like bullying in schools, teachers are sick of seeing it but they are perfectly happy to watch it continue. I can't hold it in anymore because you don't give a damn, you just don't want to see it. Corporations own your country and you know it and you like it. If you didn't you would have done something, anything by now. Not a protest, not a march, not even a half assed attempt at making a difference. It's been happening all my life nearly and i'm in my 40's. Stop saying you care because you don't, your children die and you say your tired and you go on with your life with zero done about it. If a million US citizens marched on to the lawn of the captial, sat down and said I'm not moving until you do something that has a shot at working it would have to change. No violence needed. But you as a country won't, because you don't give a damn. You just don't want to hear about it. PROVE ME WRONG. I'm over 40 and it's been happening all my life and every time people in the US go, "This time it will be different." No it won't.
The Columbine shootings happened when I was in school. We had gun drills, we had escape plans in every classroom. We weren't allowed to wear jackets or hoodies inside the building for fear of someone smuggling guns. It's insane that it's gotten worse since then and that was in the 90's.
That pastor actually fixed his mouth to say “say WE did it” as though she had a choice! As though she wasn’t a minor that he used and abused! He deserves to be in jail!
@@DaultonYoung he was in a position of power. He was a grown man twice her age at the time who used his position of authority to get what he wanted. He is a monster
I have to get out of my city and state … my moms a retired teacher and I spent the last 2 hours on Facebook about arming teachers.. I’m just so defeated.. one person said that there is a risk that comes with any job.. I just want to cry and I’m 30… I hate it here
Driving for work today I passed several flags at half staff, and I couldn't remember which national tragedy we were mourning this time. That's the saddest part for me.
Hey Phil, I am a teacher and just felt so hopeless for this and so many other reasons. But there is still joy there. There is still kindness. We had a murder on my campus this year and began using metal detectors today. But also today I got to be surrounded by joyous kids with smiles and raised voices asking for help identifying chords vs tangents and sparkles of "I got this" when they finally could solve for x. They are worth fighting for still. Please don't let them make you forget the joy and good and beautiful in the world. It is the biggest scam they can pull to convince us the fight to stop this is already over and lost.
Yes we need more of this! Life is hard and complex but it is also the easiest life humans have ever lived. Also one day we are all going to die and there is a good chance you will stop existing FOREVER! So be grateful and enjoy this world as much as possible because one day it will be taken away and you'll probably cease to exist.
I agree with you but i also agree with Phil. On Phil's plane, it's hard when you're a spokesman for many people on the shitty (and sometimes great) things going on in our world, and honestly to invigorate people, you have to be emotional... i think he has it right in that that you have to be angry or upset to change things. To persuade other people, you can't be happy and content, otherwise change cannot be made. But... that's not to say, if you were in this situation (or one you commented about), and you have to go back to everyday life, that angry is the right way to think.... in your perspective, i think you have it right - going back with a positive perspective is the right move... young kid's lives and minds depend on it.
@@Daniel-kz3df I think it needs both: the rage to fight for change and a joy to fight for. My comment was more to try to cheer Phil on. I don't deny that he carries a lot -- I already know how motivating my 100s of kids during a time when it feels so hopeless is difficult so I can't imagine what he may feel. But the anger is absolutely right. We have to have rage in order to get a change -- I guess I didn't express myself well really. Because there is joy and good still there, I feel energized to keep fighting. I wanted to share that moment because without those shining moments the world can feel so dark for me and I thought it may be the same for others. Because I know/am reminded the world is not all darkness and evil in those moments, I feel able to keep fighting.
Hearing Crosley beg to stay with his family brought a tear to my eye. I really hope he is acquitted and gets a fat settlement because he deserves to get his life back but he never will.
I honestly think this is one reason why prosecutors fight overturning such cases so hard--the state does not want to be on the hook for millions. Same thing happened in the West Memphis 3 case. After 20 years in prison the wrongfully accused ended up giving an Alford plea just to get the rest of their lives back. Shameful.
Sadly, he could create that shirt and with the next event, put the money made towards the next fund. But, I agree, shirt is a definite must at this point.
On the swimming thing; swimming used to be a mandatory skill to learn in primary school in my country. By law it was determined that all people need to know how to swim because we live in a country that could get flooded anytime if something goes wrong because we technically live below the water line. And I think that's a really good thing, we should absolutely learn survival skills.
"Technically live under the water line", You can just say the Netherlands or how you guys prefer "Holland" There is no other freaky country that dares fight the laws of nature like that. kidding, you might have guessed I am a neighbour from your southern border and couldn't pass up dunking on you guys.
@@killiansonck6278 I was hoping someone pointed out that only the Dutch say "we technically could end up under water" and it not being rlated to global warming, but plain old turning water into land sh*t :)
Here in Sweden we have to prove that we can swim at least once in during grades 1-3 (ages 7-9, the school chooses when), then at least once in grades 4-6 (ages 10-12, again the school chooses when) and lastly at least once in grades 7-9 (ages 13-15, again the school chooses which year). During grades 4-6 and 7-9 we also have to learn about "common sense", safety and how to handle an emergency when in and around water. During grades 7-9 we also have to learn CPR to complete it. We only have mandatory school up until then but to continue with life you'll have to go to a thing called "gymnasium" which is like our high school. During that time we have a course in PE and during it we have to show more extensive skills when it comes to the things we were taught in PE during grades 1-9. For example we have to learn what to do if the ice breaks and we fall into the water, have to show that we can float, tread water, swim 2km, dive and swim under water, etc. I'm glad we have all this education about how to behave around water and that you should be careful but also to handle emergencies when they occur and how to swim, during our whole time in school. This makes sure that no matter your socioeconomic status or if you're an immigrant, you will have to learn these vital skills and you'll be able to be around water and enjoy it.
@@killiansonck6278 Hahaha, I appreciate your comment. I don't think most people know that the Netherlands is below the water line though, hence my phrasing. Call us if you need to get your roads fixed neighbour ;)
You nailed it Phil. They do not give a fuck about children. They cry “save the babies” about zygotes, but when it comes to saving 7 yr olds all they have is thoughts and prayers.
Have you ever considered that people who are against abortion are that way because they have moral objections to their TAX DOLLARS being used on such morally gray practice? Regardless of the "rights" debate involving when a fetus is actually alive or the rights of some irresponsible girl to be promiscuous, is it moral to put that decision on the American tax payer in any way?
@@reidsimpson4213 So if the two of us have sex and the condom breaks I’m “irresponsible”? If someone rapes me I’m “irresponsible”? If I want to have a baby but the fertilized egg implants in my Fallopian tube instead of my uterus, and if I don’t have an abortion I will bleed out and die - I’m “irresponsible”? Access to abortions isn’t about “irresponsible girls”. It’s about healthcare and harm reduction.
@@Copperyfoxx most of the cases you're talking about already have protection under the law, especially in ectopic pregnancies, the law always prioritizes the life of the mother first. Most states recognize exceptions for rape and incest, Oklahoma is a weirdo exception to that, I'll grant you. As for the condom breaking, well, I appreciate it hon, but I'm spoken for, and that's a case of personal choice of contraceptive care. Not the fault of the tax payer nor the fetus you didn't simply use the pill instead, is it?
@@reidsimpson4213 I’m case no one ever told you, calling someone you don’t know “hun” is very condescending and makes me think that you’re not really looking for a meaningful conversation, but rather you just want to upset people. If you did not intend to be condescending, now you know! Blaming women and calling them irresponsible is sexiest and ignorant. If you start putting women in the position of “if you get raped you can have an abortion”, then you are going to have women lying about getting raped so that they have access to an abortion. It’s a lose-lose all around. If you are actually looking to have a thoughtful conversation on the topic, that’s amazing! Thank you for wanting to broaden your understanding. If you are looking to be condescending for the purposes of stirring the pot, I won’t be engaging with you further, but I wish you the best.
The giving of "Thoughts and Prayers" are for those who have no power to affect a situation; They should not be coming from people who have the ability to effect change and choose not to.
everyone has the power to affect every situation. It's just more convenient to send thoughts and prayers. This is where the entire social delusion breaks down. At some point, even if it's not your fault, YOU have choose to take responsibility. And you won't. YOU choose convenience. And why wouldn't you? Everyone else does too.
@@ZennExile ya but WE are not in the Senate and WE don't have the power to do something. The politicians are supposed to represent the people. They clearly are not.
@@calliew311 why did you ever allow yourself to be deluded enough to think someone you don't know, who didn't live your life, could ever have your best interests in mind in the first place? YOU have to be the solution. YOU have to change your delusional expectations. There is no messiah coming to save anyone. There are no heroes, and there are no villains. There are only people who choose convenience, and people who exploit those people for power.
That coaches speech demanding to know when something will be done, his voice cracking. Gave me chills. I can't even imagine what it's like to live in this bizarre world where it's not unreasonable to wonder if you will see your child again at the end of the day. Of going to school as a child, forced to go through drills practicing for the day a shooter decides to come to your school. Of working in an environment where you are aware that it's not entirely unlikely that one day someone will show up with a gun and try to shoot up the place. How does one deal with the mental toll of that, and still thrive? It's absolutely insane. The mental health numbers a few decades down the line will be full of these kids growing up in this kinds of circumstances, and developing all kinds of issues.
argumentum ad passiones is an informal fallacy characterized by the manipulation of the recipient's emotions in order to win an argument, especially in the absence of factual evidence. Does no one understand how outrage media works? Is that the problem? Yall have to know this gun debate is unwinnable. You have to know that these isolated instances of violence on children are being exaggerated in the media to inspire political divisions and the will to "vote" ahead of election cycles. Is it not clear to the rest of you? You are being manipulated by outrage media. Thousands of children, innocent children, died that day. You've been manipulated into reacting emotionally to the loss of 19 out of THOUSANDS. You've been convinced that in a country where 30,000,000 children are enrolled and attending school at any given moment that dying to gun violence is a COMMON THREAT. How many kids out of 30,000,000 need to die in a year to define that threat as "common"? Just a ballpark guess will do.
I dropped out of college due to this, no amount of control at college will prevent the lax laws on ownership in the state. If you think logically you can see every possible way someone can have the drop on the campus police and students. Doesnt take a genius. This is why I would avoid crowds and my way out of school was the area with the most cover, less corners and less students. That way I can see if someone was holding something
@@lunesterv5802 everyone should be angry that this happens, absolutely furious, and people should take that fury and weaponize it against those who are doing nothing. Turn that anger into action.
It's horrible what has happened and hopefully politicians can come together and figure out some kind of solution but we should be careful not to over manufacture trauma. Although it is important for us to recognize that 1 life gone is too many, statistically you are amongst the most unlucky people on the planet if you die in a mass shooting. Less than 2000 people have died from mass shootings since 2009 in America. It is not a widespread thing that you should be worried about day to day, it is an incredibly unlikely event. For comparison 38,000 die from car crashes A YEAR. Mass shootings, as frequent as they are becoming, remain a statistical anomaly so if you have kids they are probably going to be just fine!
As a Christian too... the Bible is pretty much clear what to do to adulterers and rapists. He should be stoned to death outside of the city by his victim and his church.
The only tiny modicum of justice with the video as future proof: the dude is straight unemployable as a professional spiritual leader. Confessing to adultery could've still gotten him the pulpit, but a church worth any weight wouldn't pay this guy even to mop their floors for a rapist who tried to pass it off as anything but.
@@kiyokochanable Sure, he'll probably start a little home church with a handful of people who bury their heads in the sand (because disgraced pastors prove to be narcissists), but his public persona is forever ruined. The woman he raped was brave enough to take the mic and tell the congregation...who were disgusted. He will never have the level of power he did a minute before he started confessing.
I saw a collage of all the victims faces on facebook without context or reading the caption and broke down because I just knew there had been another mass shooting. Hearing that these were 4th graders, from 8-10 years old and all of them are gone leaves me with a pit in my stomach. That senator yelling on the floor summed up my feelings to a T and I started weeping while still feeling unbelievably angry. All I can think about is how scared those kids must have been, and how much of a travesty it is for lawmakers to do nothing about it. In the past 2 years more than ever before I have heard, in effect, that the country is being held hostage by 50 senators and I can't express how true it feels more and more.
@@jeanettw2341 yes, but like, gun control + mental health assistance = mass shooters being caught early and set back on the right path alongside making mass shootings harder to commit since a gun won't be so easy to get alongside other things you should go look for a proper paper on i'm no criminal psychologist don't take my words for it
How can they be horrified and heartbroken and yet do nothing?? I hate to say it but if it were one of their kids action would have been taken immediately. We’d have gun laws out the ass if one of them lost a child to gun violence.
@@stephanie7142 They have proposed solutions such as better mental health treatment (yes the shooter was clearly mentally ill, aggressive, actively hurt himself, romanticized knives and guns, was malicious, dreamt about hurting others, Phil misled people here), placing veterans or guards in schools with e.g. the money that is being thrown away on Ukraine, the border or projects that don't benefit the US. Backgrounds checks are already in place in most areas, gun free zones are a thing and regulations do exist. And some of the most restrictive places for gun use (Controlled by the democratic party) have most of the gun violence. hmmm why didn't you guys or Phil mention this?
@@pollytix7271 Did you miss the part where police and a school resource officer were already at the school and failed to stop him from entering, and then stood outside for an hour before going in after him? The "good guys with guns" did absolutely *nothing,* don't even try making the argument that guards at schools would help.
@@pollytix7271 First of all, money isn't being "thrown away on Ukraine". There's a reason why it's called the world's bread basket. If that conflict isn't resolved quickly and both Russia and Ukraine restart their exports, there's going to be a massive global grain shortage. That includes feed for livestock in addition to wheat and rice as ingredients for everything else. Meanwhile, China has been hoarding a giant supply of grain. What do you think will happen to US society if the Chinese Communist Party gets to decide who eats and who starves? As far as proposed solutions go, they clearly haven't worked or been implemented in a manner where they're readily accessible or effective. Especially anything with the word "health" included. And really, how desperate do you have to be as a nation if the answer to gun violence is to add more guns, by posting armed guards or war veterans at entrances to schools or arming teachers? Soldiers shouldn't be made shoot more people on their home turf after coming home from war in other countries, and we need less guns around children! Also, a gun in the hands of *every* teacher? They have to deal with misbehaving children every day! We've seen teachers clash violently with students before! You really want to put a deadly weapon in the hands of people who spend several hours a day dealing with 30+ brats who won't sit still and be taught? Just imagine the worst case scenario -- that's what you're asking for here! As far as "gun free zones" go, those hardly matter when the supply of automatic weapons remains a possibility in the next zip code over, particularly across political borders. Of course gun violence continues to happen in a Democratic state when there's a Republican state nearby, pushing pro-gun propaganda. Who do you think Republicans are going to target for speaking out against them? The ones with "a liberal agenda" of course! The only way any one gun free zone can work is if the whole country is rid of them. Freed from them, if you will! In fact, how's about this for a concept: America is not a free country until it is free from fear. Fear of existential threats to life. Guns are explicitly designed to be an existential threat to life. You are not free while guns exist in such a readily available manner. The USA is not a free country. But it could be. And it should be. You've made changes to your constitution before, that's why they're called amendments. You've even amended amendments before! It's time to do it again, this time to the second amendment. Because every child should have a right to both an education and to life. And no parent should have to bury the body of their child because of some punk with a gun.
@@matthewshiers9038 i stopped reading after you said 'As far as "gun free zones" go, those hardly matter when the supply of automatic weapons remains a possibility in the next zip code over," because getting a automatic weapon is very difficult, time consuming, and Expensive. and doing any mods to a firearm to make it one is HIGHLY illegal. but good luck with where ever else you are wrong about
I work in a school in texas and when I heard about the shooting I was standing in a hallway full of children getting hugs and fist bumps and with baby's yelling out to me how their day went and summer plans... I can not even imagine losing any of these baby's.. can't imagine that 2 days before I lose them for the summer that they could be gone forever... my heart aches at the thought... I am not a politician or an interest group I don't use big words and change laws but I know this.... this is not the world I want thses kids to have to grow up into... something has to change because we cannot keep losing people to this kind of senseless violence... and it's insanity to think that if we keep doing what we are that things are gonna change... we need less thoughts and prayers and more policies and change..
I work in Warsaw and it is disgusting to hear my coworkers in MENTAL HEALTH question the victim. I hate that so many people here actively are defending him by blaming HER.
What they argue to defend this groomer, how a 35 year old grow up man can control himself, but the 16 year old girl is totally responsible of her actions?
it’s disgusting how some of these people that we put into power continue to do nothing while countless innocent lives are taken. what’s the point of power if the way you choose to keep it comes at the cost of those you’re supposed to protect
so what gun law would have stopped this? There are simply too many guns in the US to ban them, so what would fix it? The issue is mental health, the kid was crazy and never got help, there was warning signs. People who want to talk about gun control without talking about mental health need to stfu.
I'm glad you still at least mentioned the craziness that we shouldn't be allowed to forget what happened in Buffalo was not any less awful than what happened in texas
There were shootings in Dallas, Chicago and CA during the same timeframe. Assuming there's been many more shootings that we haven't heard about from many of the regions with the tightest gun restrictions too but we haven't heard about them because it's so common and the ability to politicize it to be about loose gun laws or white supremacy isn't there.
@@pollytix7271 And most of those are petty crimes turned bad or gang violence, stuff that can be solved by… I don’t know…. Making sure republicans never ever get into power, kicking out democrats, instating progressive candidates, and fixing the shitty economy and actually getting some people a way out of poverty and into being able to live. We could solve the vast majority of these killings, it’s hard but we can do it. But nothing you want will fix the problems, everything you want perpetuates them. Every single fucking time a crisis happens, every single time a dozen children die because of lax gun laws you monster, you inhuman beasts come out and go “But what about Chicago! What about Dallas! What about gangs!” When you know for damn sure nothing, absolutely nothing you want to be done would fix those problems. You don’t care about the gang violence in Dallas or in Chicago, you don’t care about those people dying. They’re pawns in your game so you can make gun reform look bad even though it’s beyond proven at this point thst it helps. You never cared about the kids of Uvalde, never cared about the people of Buffalo, didn’t care about Columbine or Stoneman, or any other shooting. And you still don’t. You don’t care about the victims, you play a game of pretend so you can act like your the hero when everything you want is killing people. Stop with the pleasantry, and just say you’re fine with people dying. We all know you are.
@@pollytix7271 so your argument that we shouldn’t do anything to stop the shootings is that there are too many other shootings outside those patterns too? Great fucking point dumbass, less guns would solve that shit too. The existence of rampant gun violence also doesn’t mean that much of it isn’t driven by bigots, even if it’s only a percentage of the whole. And the states that currently have stricter laws are held back by a lack of universal background checks and nearby states with little restrictions.
As a Christian it is very painful to have my faith weaponized by monsters who adopt only ruin lives, obtain power, and avoid accountability. But I am relieved to see that a majority of fellow Christians within that congregation sided with the woman when told the full story and refused to let him hide behind his lies. That gives me hope.
Christianity is the reason she felt like she was the problem and didn’t tell anyone in the first place, back when something could’ve been done to help her. They’re not weaponizing your faith, they’re following Christianity.
I left my church as a teen when our pastor, who had preached for his entire life that God delivered him from drug addiction and used that story as his testimony, was arrested for DUI, possession, and tampering with evidence, etc. He admitted that he had been using the entire time while preaching how God saved him from all that. I had been forced into counseling with this pastor as a teen, because my parents caught me smoking pot. And the entire time he was doing the same thing while counseling me. The congregation forgave him and voted for him to remain in his position as pastor. A few years later I heard they finally gave him the boot when he was caught having an affair with the church organist. *SIDE NOTE* : I am for legalization and have no problem with people smoking Marijuana or whatever they wanna do as long as it doesn't put others at risk or in danger. Its none of my business what others want to put in their body. The lies he told over and over again from behind the pulpit, as a central part of his testimony, along with him driving under the influence, was what I couldn't get past. I was completely disillusioned by the hypocrisy and lies, not the fact that he wanted to use drugs.
If he’s been in jail for over 30 years, I feel like it would be reasonable to release him even if he had committed the murder. And as it stands, it seems unlikely that he did. How did ten witnesses at a party get overruled by the single witness statement of the girlfriend who should have been one of the suspects? That doesn’t seem like ‘beyond a reasonable doubt’ at all, it seems like the girlfriend said so and they trusted her blindly.
Sadly, because the girlfriend is White, the other party participants were likely African-American, and this is America. Blind trust only goes one way here.
Isn't it unusual that Phil went as far as showing us his "heartfelt speech" but didn't go into detail why a appeals court ordered him to return to jail? Talk about brainwashing by using your emotions instead facts. Phil's come a long way in his manipulative ways and you fell for it.
@@philip9823 Don't know. Figured the most important part Phil would've shared with us, you know? Everyone is commenting he should be free but no one knows why he was returned to jail 😝 i love it when certain facts are conveniently left out
@@philip9823 Well, look at here, "Later on in the trial, prosecutors put forward three witnesses who claimed Crosley had confessed to them. One of the witnesses was his own sister, Shelia Green." Well, funny how Phil forgot to mention that part, right?
Please let Crosley go free. Leaving it up to Death Santis is just not an option. Other than Creator Clash, everything else is so heart rending. Between Sen. Murphy and Coach Kerr's response, still crying.
So there was a reason the 3 judge panel ruled 3-0 to overturn. It’s sad because it sounds like he didn’t do it but We just watched a two minute recap all of you know a federal appeals system which takes yearsAnd the three judge panel refuse the whole case as if it were you the only thing they can change is the cherries decision they can see all of the evidence that was excluding and they were reviewed all that and gone over this case for months with clerks and among some selves so I would assume that they know a lot more about the case and I do so just because it sounds one-way who knows maybe there’s more to the story I don’t know sounds like he sugar-free but I just wouldn’t wouldn’t counter out the judges as racist who want execute an innocent mann
DeSantis won't care and unfortunately if I'm right about DeSantis I don't think this particular Supreme Court will either but I hope I'm wrong 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
@@bro5jonny To be fair, the heart rending I mentioned was in regards to the pastor being another douchebag of the day and Uvalde. Hence mentioning Murphy and Kerr. I have been crying all day as a mom of an 11 year old especially in a red county that's heavily farmland with a lot of old racists.
I saw someone have the audacity to say: "We are a free society. We can have guns. So these tragedies are going to happen. It’s horrible. But it’s the trade we make. That’s just the brutal truth. It’s no good denying it." If the price of our freedom is thousands of slaughtered children, that's not a price I'm willing to pay. I don't want freedom if that's the cost
As a European, it's always funny in a sad way when I hear that whole phrase about the US being the land of the free and leaders of the free world. When you figure out basic aspects of society, come back and see us about that. Until then we'll be over here enjoying the oppression of free health care, education and lack of mass-shootings.
Many years ago, I saw someone ask the question "How many children have to die to gun violence before Republicans change their minds?" At this point, I don't think that question works anymore; for many people in this country, there isn't a number. Half of all schoolkids in the US could die in mass shootings tomorrow and they still wouldn't do anything substantial. Instead, I offer a new question: "Which child has to die to gun violence before you change your mind?"
To republicans what’s a thousand deaths compared to a million dollars? They don’t care so long as they are comfortable. They need to be made uncomfortable, their houses need to be protested at, their place of work protested at, their car blocked off from pulling out of the driveway, their livelihood made more difficult. They are killing people, a mild inconvenience like a five hour delay to work is nothing compared to the loss of a child due to something that could’ve been prevented. Cowards, vipers, the lot of them.
@Abasisten Of course not, but people driving their cars into crowds are already rare and cars themselves have had regulations in place for decades. You have a point about the culture, though; the US has an obsession with guns that other countries don't have. That being said, nobody needs an AR-15 for home defense and they certainly don't need it to hunt. As for my question, it's meant to be a test of character. If the person has an actual answer, it shows how self-centered they are. If they don't have an answer, it's worse because that means that nothing will change their mind. I can see why my question would get that kind of response, but I'll put it into perspective: I'm Canadian. Outside of a few hunting rifles owned by distant relatives, I have never seen a firearm up close. I also have a half-brother living in the US who is around the age of these kids. I get wound up by these stories because I don't want him to become another statistic.
@Abasisten Is it legal to walk around with a fully loaded rifle, handgun, and with ammo in your country with zero permit and zero license? Another question: would you hand the keys to your vehicle to someone who doesn’t have a permit and doesn’t have a license? I wouldn’t. In America cars are literally required, I work 40 miles (64km) away from where I live. That would be a hell of a bikeride if it was downhill but I live in a very hilly area. I need my car, but I also agree less people deserve them. Cars should be harder to get and the test to get them in the US is way too easy, seen by how many crashes there are in the US. Citing one case of a person using a vehicle to harm others does not compare to the thousands of gun deaths that happen every year. Making them harder to get, and having a system in which you destroy illegally owned guns or hold them for legal purchasers, would lose the amount of guns in criminals hands and lower the amount of guns in general but also allow those we deserve them (who have gone through training etc etc) to have them. This ‘media is the problem’ stuff is the same thing as saying ‘games cause violence’, there hasn’t been statistical evidence of that happening. Not even anecdotal since a lot of these shooters when they do play games play like Minecraft or American Truck Simulator.
@Abasisten I never said we needed to remove all guns or cars or whatever, I mean if I could I would I’m sure you’d also agree if you could snap your fingers and suddenly no more need for guns and no more need for cars you’d snap your fingers INSTANTLY. I do want to get to a world where the only people with guns are the best of the best, the people who truly put the effort in. But that’s a hard thing, the things I argue for will get closer to that, but gotta get beyond republicans and the NRA. I own guns, and I like them. I just think less should have them. Media doesn’t incentivize being scared of their fellow neighbor, or at least I feel that’s very very VERY oversimplified. As a trans person, I am genuinly terrified by some of my neighbors. Why? I live in Texas, and I’ve been threatened before, and part of that is supported by Republican leaders. I’m not afraid for no reason, I don’t have a gun for no reason. The media can be overzealous in how it treats various groups, but we have to look at what is and isn’t realistic. And overwhelmingly the anti-realism is more right leaning news stations. Most news is simply just trying to spin whatever story to make money, which is grim but hardly to blame for someone purchasing 2 rifles, 400 rounds of ammo, and going on a rampage. People don’t go on rampages just because the news said something. It might help, just as violent video games make violence seem less abhorrent but aren’t rhe cause so too do news stations make things less abhorrent but also aren’t the cause. To say otherwise is abject oversimplification. Like I have a reason to kinda be afraid of some republicans, especially Republican leaders. But republicans don’t have a reason to be afraid of me, a 5’4 trans person trying to just be happy and play video games in peace. I will say the claim that cops shoot unarmed black men is true, they shoot unarmed people in general way too often. We need to have better trained officers, which is what much of the protests were about. Also Darrell Brooks is nowhere I’ve seen tied to any of this?
@Abasisten As far as I know MSNBC retracted that statement, as far as I can tell as well many of their online articles have also bee edited to reflect that he was armed.
It's just so damn heartbreaking 💔 I can't begin to imagine their unimaginable pain, I cry for them and their children. These kids deserved better..Thank you Phil for donating.
As someone who lived very close to Sandy Hook when it happened and was in high school, the shooting still rocks me ten years later. I thought I would die that day (rumors flew there were 6 gunmen, not 1), and I still get shaken when these happen. Republicans downplay this shit too fucking often. Not even the Republicans in my hometown would downplay the loss of human life in such a way. It makes me feel like emigration is the only way to achieve change on a personal level. Murphy did good, but to answer his "Why are you here?" It's to enrich themselves and maintain power. That's it. They are cockroaches.
It’s a weird paradox catch-22 type thing. The people who WANT to govern are almost never the ones who are actually good at governing. I’d take Steve Kerr over the average GOP member any day of the week, and yet there aren’t many people like him in government.
You know what, I understand every single us citizen that wants to migrate outta there. Some Americans like to say that it’s the greatest country of all (American exceptionalism is kicking hard) but honestly the grass is so much greener somewhere else. Unlimited sick days. Social security and health care. Births that don’t cost an arm and a leg. No active shooter drills because they are not needed. Free universities - for heavens sake Spain even introduced sick leaves for the days one is plagued with the pain of menstruation. A life like that is possible. And that it’s not possible in the United Stated as it is hurts my soul for every single one of you. You deserve it. Everyone does. It’s such a shame that these corrupt people in power won’t do something to actually help you and do something for the country you love and call home. (Ps: I’m not saying that other countries are perfect. No country is. God knows I said a lot of colourful words about my government as well. But I got to be raised in an environment in which I didn’t have to train for the moment someone walks into my school, trying to take my life. And that’s what I wish for every kid in school)
@@cmdrlawliet3552 Most New England Republicans HATE the national party in one form or another.. but a two party system is what we have so the moderately right have to hitch their wagons to crazy.
My family went to a church where the pastor was also the head of a conservative Christian school. When I say conservative, I mean, the girls had to where long skirts, the girls couldn't cut their hair, they couldn't go to the movies (although I saw them often at the theater), and many other things. (ETA: I believe this was 2011-2012, so not that long ago.) The pastor was a creep and always made me feel icky. My parents wondered why I didn't go to church with them or why I didn't want to go to his house when they were invited. Then, we found out that he committed adultery and was fired from the school and church. But I will never be convinced that it wasn't rape. Good riddance to him. This happens way more often than we'll know. Also, I know it sounds weird to us Americans who aren't required to do any physical labor, but I actually think the swimming requirement is a good thing. We always talk about how stupid it is that schools don't teach us things that are actually useful in life. That's what they're doing in Shanghai. I wouldn't mind that here.
This story just makes me want to cry that's what it does they might have to put this guy back into jail after 32 years of being in jail for wrong prosecution?! That is just disappointing in so many ways this is exactly why I don't trust the judicial system in America.
“Exhausted rage” captures it perfectly. Today, I just cried off and on, and hugged my kids. All day, I just spontaneously hugged my kids. I am so sick of “thoughts and prayers.”
Yup I’m right there with him. I have nieces that age and I pray to whatever being is out there that I never get that call. I can’t even imagine what you parents are feeling.
Schools need better security tbh. The school I go to has overweight "security guards" and others that are elderly. The front doors that are supposed to be hard to open can be open easily by just using your own strength.
@@Bird.Lover6000 "I am so sick of 'thoughts and prayers'". You know what I was commenting on when I called it "edgy atheist" cringe, which is why you conveniently left the "edgy atheist" part out. This is poisoning the well to an extreme.
It makes me wonder how many of these “thoughts and prayers” republicans would be saying that when their grandkids are the ones laying shot dead by some evil bastard
I'm so glad that that woman went up and told him that she was 16. She didn't let him get away with it.
That takes bravery
Seriously, that took some major courage, and I respect the hell out of her for it.
F*ck that guy.
@@mariomario1462 I think what he was doing was gonna get into a heep of fire.
@@mariomario1462 I don’t think you know how age of consent works in most states.
He's the guy who carries a laminated cut out of the "Romeo and Juliet" law with him at all times.
That's not adultery, that's rape, what BS to pass it off as cheating on his wife, to downplay what he did, how infuriating, amazing courage from the victim for calling him out.
@Jessie god and the law was on his side case close fellas 👀
@Jessie even if it is doesn't make it right. Age of consent in my state is 16 and its absolutely disgusting that a grown adult is legally allowed to be with someone under age.
@Jessie the fact that the first response is to ask what the ask of consent is should tell you a lot :/ it shouldn't matter what the age of consent is: he groomed her, he abused his power as an authority figure over her. She was a child, regardless of what the law says. She was a child and he abused her. Full stop.
@@grimtheghastly8878 they probably just whiped out a spreadsheet
@Jessie Being the age of consent doesn’t mean it’s not r@pe. Coercion of any kind, such as forcing/manipulating her as an authority or powerful figure in the community, would still make it r@pe.
The woman who stood up and said she was only 16? That’s our BAMF of the day right there. The absolute courage that took. She went on STAGE. And took the mike from her ABUSER. And told a roomful of people, I guess for the first time ever, of her deepest, darkest pain. What a badass. What an absolute champion. I pray her community bands around her and she finally gets some of the healing she deserves.
Not just her abuser, but her abuser who was a powerful member of her community. I cannot even IMAGINE how much courage that took.
Amen!
I think her anger gave her courage, he was trying to "come clean" but leave out all the dirty details, like he raped her on his office floor. She might not have struggled, but that doesn't qualify as informed consent from an adult.. If someone is trying to downplay the worst thing that ever happened to me at their hands, for multiple years and it's the cause of all my mental anguish? I'd probably be too angry to be scared, I'm glad she found the courage.
Well what was she wearing? Okay it doesn't matter what she was wearing but she was of legal age. Why is everyone looking at me funny? 🤓
Less courage and more blinded by emotions I'd say.
Doesn't sound like she was ever quiet about the situations so her anger probably just boiled up to the point of her objecting very publicly.
Good for her regardless
Proud of that woman for standing up for herself, that definitely took real courage
The pastor didn’t want to get it off his chest. He was confronted, and likely given an ultimatum to fess up, or have it exposed in a way that was outside his control.
200%. The worst part is that it’s very like that the statute of limitation is likely up on her case and this is the only punishment he will face
@@paulwaltersheherfeministvl521 From the bottom of my heart please don't drink bleach mixed with vinegar.
Right. I’m not a religious person but if this man gets into ‘heaven’ after this shit then I’m glad as hell I don’t practice. I don’t want any part of a heaven that allows someone to rape a child and then go ‘oopsie!’ I’m sorry! And still be let in.
@@porkupineexe6862 Since he did it for 22 years wouldn't the timer start since he last abused her? Or would that no longer count as abuse since she was past legal age at that point?
@@cevcena6692 Not a lawyer but from what I understand.
She can file for every count inside there statue of limitations. The earliest ones will probably be outside those limits.
The shit bags defence is going to have a field day with "It when on for so long. She wanted it, why is she coming forward now? It was scummy but it isn't like he was raping a child (Which he totally did but that evidence isn't admissible for all these newer incidents)".
I’m amazed by the courage of that woman and proud of the congregation to support their values rather than their leader. That’s incredible to see.
sadly almost seems rare aswell
Hearing those parish voices (especially the men) yell out in righteous anger towards the pastor questioning his actions… felt good. Felt fucking good. Like, those guys sounded like they were ready to punch that pedafile in the face, for both the retribution of the assaulted victim and for his disgusting betrayal of trust.
I’m a solid Christian… and I’m proud that the majority of that parish just didn’t roll over, but in spite of the long years of knowing that pastor, that that community believed the woman’s account and fucking immediately held that douchebag accountable.
Those are good people and an example of true Christianity right there. They don’t stand for an iota of that shit in their church and community.
Except the group of men that went up to hug him...
@@machinegirl4878
I said majority of the church congregation. And that majority speaks volumes.
It's insane how common it is for shit like this to happen and the congregation to cover it up. I personally know women who had similar experiences when younger and even their parents wanted it kept quiet to "protect the congregation" but like who the fuck is protecting the kids man what the actual fuck
Slightly disagree on the swimming thing. People die in astronomical numbers in perfectly survivable scenarios. I don’t think it should be mandatory in university. It should be mandatory in preschool.
I think that’s what Phil’s point was - that it’s weird a university requires it, when it should be taught at least at the high school level (but I agree with you on pre school).
@Joshua Grahm Best way to survive water is to learn how to calm the f down and float. Fat helps with that.
@@RealEngineering time to get some Pizza I guess
that's not the point though. they're in lock down. relax it for a year at least, it's ridiculous otherwise.
A lot of US universities mandate the swim test too. Off the top of my head Cornell and MIT do, and I'm sure many other peer institutions do as well
Edit: Harvard also does this
lets be real, even when these 17 injuries were not life-threatening, theyre still life altering, especially if the victims are young kids...
"You didn't tell them she was 14 years old!"
"She was 16."
FBI: *WE GOTTEM*
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God i hope
It is probably the age of consent in that state.
As if the FBI actually cares about sexual abuse of minors
@@dustinwrye Found out it's the exact t age of consent in their state. Kinda makes it a bit grosser to me.
greg abbott said in a news conference that the shooting in uvalde "could have been worse" and it made me so unbelievably angry. the phrase "could have been worse" absolutely devalues the lives that were already lost. yes, one, two, hundreds more people could have died. but expressing "it could have been worse" to the public, to the families of the children who have been murdered, is so disrespectful. imagine your child dying, and the GOVERNOR saying "it could have been worse." for me, if my child died, NOTHING could be worse. at least to me, it seems absolutely tasteless.
the problem is you're hanging on words he said. he was killed by a border patrol agent. meaning the situation could of been way horrible then it was. this idiot who wanted to kill people should of just did us a favor and offed themselves before hurting anyone
"It could have been worse" really pisses me off. Yeah, of course it could have been worse but it also could have been better! It could be better if anyone would do anything about this! I don't even understand how someone could look at over a dozen dead and say "it could be worse"
At some point in the future someone will tally up Greg Abbott’s body count. It will not be 0.
I want a protest of him and his, and I want it to be videos and pictures of those kids. I want videos of them laughing and crying and yelling to *haunt* him and his kind. I don't know how to do this. Does he have social media? Are the families willing to mass post those videos to his account? To every account against gun control laws? Against better mental health programs?
Since he's been Governor of Texas the state has seen 3 out of the 10 deadliest mass shootings in US history.
I attended my ten-year old son's graduation today in silent and hidden tears. I couldn't stop imagining 19 families had their children taken from them and they'll never get to see them again, let alone see them graduate from elementary school. It felt so wrong to enjoy this ceremony, it hurt so much.
I've cried so much the last 36 hours that my face is a constant puffball. I'm so sick of this.
well you're in for a horrifically sad nightmare when you google how thousands of innocent children the media didn't fixate on for political traction also died the day this shooting took place. Every life is precious and children's lives are the most precious of all, but 19 out of SeveralThousand shouldn't be getting 99.9% of the airtime. It is though because gun debates are perfect to rile idiots up for election day.
This is the same trick they used to get Trump elected. Airtime = engagement = political donations. They know you cannot see past the outrage long enough to do the math on your own. They know the death of children in school will break your hearts and more importantly loosen up your wallets.
If you really cared about your kids lives you would push for Driverless Cars and public transportation. And you would have also schooled them in a private school or at home with personal educators far away from institutionalized learning which in and of itself is more dangerous to children than all mass shootings ever combined.
If you can stop crying long enough to google the numbers, you should clearly see that at any given time we have 30,000,000 kids in institutional learning facilities (schools) at any given time. And the likelihood that any of those 30,000,000 kids will be killed in school by gun violence is VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY SMALL. Yes that many very's and all in caps.
Nearly all kids who die prematurely do so at home, under the direct supervision of loved ones, or in the passenger seat of a car. Think about that long and hard once you are done crying for just 19 of the thousands of children who died this day, like every other day, and all other days to come. There are regulatory measures we can take that are bipartisan and affordable to save thousands of children's lives every single day. There is and never will be a measure of gun control that will provide similar protections. Even the complete banning of all firearms would result in MORE harm to children than less.
Never respond to anything in anger. Never make a decision using feelings. Humans do not possess the innate ability to judge risk, or calculate probability. You cannot and should never trust your gut reaction to events like these. The math cannot lie to you. Your gut will about 50% of the time.
You’re a good person for being so thoughtful. Stay safe!
When I went to my nephews graduation we had cops doing security just because of that incident and many were scared
@@richievalle623 that's because you're uneducated and all current media is engineered to scare uneducated people with outrageous events so they will keep watching through the commercial breaks and vote "teamWhateverYouWatch" at the polls supplying the wealth consolidators with just the illusion of Democracy they need to continue raping and pillaging the US Treasury.
The Uvalde incident is absolutely horrific... I'm curious as to how an 18 year old who lives with Grandma was able to afford $5,000 worth of firearms, Scopes, ammo, and body armor.
it isn’t hard to save up 5k is you started working at 16 like most teens do
Working, trading, gifts from relatives, maybe selling some stuff. I knew someone in high school who inherited a little more than that from a grandparent.
They said he worked at a fast food place. So between that and money from birthday/holidays it's not out of the picture.
@@XavierPlayR you think that was his plan since he was 16? Save up all his money just to do this and never tell a soul (except a random girl online just minutes before the attack) for 2 years?
I’m not saying that’s not what Hellenes, but that’s pretty wild if that’s the case…
@@certifiedpineappletree6708 i would think yes. It is a fantasy to people like this hence the very least that needs to happen is the age of purchase needs to be raised
"I feel like I've been drained of the ability to feel sad, and the only thing that can fit there now is rage." - this was perfectly articulated.
I’m so glad Phil covered the Pastor story. Too often things like that are ignored by the media and that man needs to be held accountable.
I'm so proud of her for getting up in front of all those people and giving her truth!
NEVER let someone take away from who you are and I hope she can properly heal .
True, must have been difficult considering she's having to relive that pain, but more power to her for sure.
True, that must have been difficult. Though I wonder why she kept congregating in that church or if she was there only that day to unmask him because she knew he was going to resign as a pastor and play victim
If he took her for all those years, she's now too old to have a child of her own with a man she loves (unless she already did and it's not mentioned). That's not fully fixable.
@@ginandromeda1618 So the thing with establishing a relationship with a church and the people that go to that church is that it becomes a part of your life. These people become another family and it's really hard to move away from that.
I've heard similar stories and stories of coming out where people were too afraid to lose that connection they have.
@@johndododoe1411 she is married now. He said it was 20 years ago. She said it started 27 years ago. So he must have been abusing this poor girl for around 7 years.
I can't imagine how hard it would be to keep going after being wrongfully imprisoned for decades. It's insane that the "justice" system can just steal people's lives like they're nothing.
How anyone can be wrongly put in prison for so many years and come out with such grace, just blows my mind. I hope he can be free.
Racism.
So many of these horrible stories coming out of the US, and that are still happening daily in the US, are *strictly and solely* happening because of racism and the institutionalized racism inherent in the US legal system. (Note: it's sure as fuck not a justice system!)
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It's almost like prisoners are just people too.
It wouldn't surprise me if the prosecutors fight with all their might to get the man back in jail, because otherwise they are admitting that their office where all in on hiding evidence and other wrong doings.
America in a nutshell
It irks me the "justice system" seems to have a HUGE problem owning its mistakes.
Because it's for profit. Even government run prisons are for profit in terms of private contractors providing services, and the fact that it's still legal to use slave labor in the US as long as the person is a slave as punishment for a crime. And since bribery is legal in the US, if you make money locking people up, what do you do? Bribe politicians to lock more people up, society be damned.
The US's fundamental problem is the idea that making money is the ultimate good.
Everything will be better if you just make it a money making venture. You can't let the government do things, because the government isn't part of the almighty free market.
The US "justice" system is working exactly as intended, it's just that the intended function isn't what's being sold to the public.
@@FNLNFNLN beautifully well put!
@@bettyfkrocker2705 its deeply corrupted.
I should do more than just irk you. Just imagine all those who don't get news coverage. All those in jail for non-violent crimes.
Dude, I feel so bad for Crosley… Half of his fucking life wasted… I hope he gets his freedom and every bit of compensation he deserves
Sadly no amount of compensation will make up for the decades of his life stolen from him
@@JagmeetSign yeah, unfortunately very true :(
@@JagmeetSign giving the woman who falsely accused him and the prosecutors who hid evidence the death penalty would be a reasonable compensation.
america, i'd expect no less...
@@bendover7841 She probably killed the man anyways all evidence points to it. She deserves the death penalty.
"He said, while looking at the answer key to the test" literally SENT ME into a full on wheeze.
The congregation supporting that woman actually made me cry. "You did it, you need to admit to it", that tone of voice. I just don't expect people attending those kinds of churches to stand up like this. I just. Really appreciate it. Despite how it seems so often, humanity has evolved. We have come a long way to 2022.
Christians these days are so tied into the conservative ideology that they often forget their own humanity. But deep down, they're good people trying to be better
Then you got the 20+ at the end praying with him tho. Digusting.
@@StupidBoyScouts yeah those pedo lovers can go to hell. Absolutely disgusting and disturbing. Makes you question their morality.
@@StupidBoyScouts yeah, they can follow him to their hell
I do appreciate the fact that the congregation was standing by the woman and refusing to let the pastor make excuses. I'm so used to church-goers (not all) blindly following their pastor no matter what they confessed (or didn't confess) to doing, so it was refreshing to see them openly disgusted with their disgraced pastor.
A church near here, around 20 years back, the preacher suddenly went wild and started doing all sorts of things, cheating included. Obviously with a woman in the church. Well, one morning his wife caught her in the parking lot and beat her down. No word on whether or not he got the same.
Yeah, it's so good.
There is more to the video. The woman leaves the stage and the paster returns. Then they all start praying for him and circling around hugging him.
Unfortunately this wasn’t the full video. In the full video that is shown in the article that is linked in the description, a lot of the congregation did a huddle/prayer around him at the end. Half of them did remain seated which was good. But as a victim of SA and grooming it is really upsetting to see a lot of them so forgiving at the end, since the pastor literally admitted that she was 16.
@@Weirdo_of_Oz exactly. It is honestly so messed up. And for some of the congregation (not all since some thankfully did remain seated) to be so forgiving is just disgusting. They are literally bystanders to this.
Fact that the pastor tried to hide the girl's age until the last moment suggests that he didn't go on this confession rant out of guilty conscience but rather that he knew the lies were gonna come out and wanted to preemptively minimize the damage. I see you, you snake.
Thank you for donating. That's an amazing thing to do
My son turned 10 last week. He’s the sweetest boy. I can’t even imagine him not coming home to me. As someone with severe anxiety and panic disorder, I have began to disassociate when I here about mass shootings. I just can’t process the grief.
I don't know if this will help, but school shootings are extraordinarily rare. I know the news doesn't make it seem that way but they are. Based on my quick math, it's 0.0004% of all gun deaths, which are themselves only a small portion of total deaths (0.01%). Your son will be safe. Just worry about continuing to be a good parent, not about school shootings. 🫂
Let me know if you want links to the data or if there's anything else I can do to help.
@@piloslencure7884 No one cares about stats that get recorded after mass shootings have been done. It’s just been increasing rapidly and nothing’s being done to lessen or prevent it. Stats aren’t going to make the parents feel better after they lost their sources of pride and joy.
I'm sorry that didn't help you. I don't want you to ever know the pain of losing a child and will do my part to help affect positive change. I hope your days are filled with less worry and lots of happiness.
@@piloslencure7884 tell that to the parents of slain children of these "rare" school shootings, I'm sure that will comfort them too!
I think I understand where you are coming from but seriously dude...
@@piloslencure7884 if you want quick maths, out of 20360 child or adolescent (aged 1-19) deaths in 2016. 4074 were from car crashes. Just beating firearm related child deaths at 3143, of which 1865 of those being homicide..... homicides with firearm is double how many drownings there was in 2016.
We wear seatbelts and fence in pools with child safe locks, but mention gun control and fuckheads in the pocket of the NRA but a stop to that.
That poor man has been in jail my whole life. I cannot imagine. I cannot put into words how wild that is to even realize. That man looks like one of my uncles and it complete breaks my heart. Crosley Green i am hoping for the best for your case and a wonderful life of freedom. Even though I dont even know how life will be out of prison especially being elderly. Man these stories have been hitting today, this world makes you hate it more and more.
Can't he sue the state for the enitre time he spent there?
Kim Hallock projected her feelings, saying "deep down inside he knows that he is right where he's supposed to be." I think she is living in hell for this and will never be able to look at it in the face.
there is American Jury system for you.... how can few random idiots decide fates of people ffs.... just think about how dumb average person is.... christ, US is so weird
@@sirwahthemonke If he can get out by ruling of insufficient evidence(which would prove police malpractice); then yes.
@@sirwahthemonke and that's why they want to keep him locked up.
I think that if an attorney or judge is found guilty of corruption or withholding, they should be disbarred and prosecuted. I'm so sick of this.
no they should suffer the unjust punishments they enabled. And be put to death.
@@ZennExile i agree with you except the last one, only in specific cases
Well that's the problem. The successful overturn of 1 case means they have to go through all cases of similar incidents. Which they know will just lead to more people found as wrongly convicted. Which back then it was just get a black man in prison at all cost, so all judges and jury did it. So they have to make it absolutely difficult to deter innocent people from seeking the same thing.
The problem is that most times when they do find an attorney or prosecutor who withheld or corrupted evidence - they’re long out of the office and the office has no power to make them face repercussions at that point. Do I think that’s wrong? Absolutely. But that’s currently how the system is designed. That’s why there’s little consequence for these situations because by the time the truth comes out - if it ever does - to much time has passed to actually do anything. It’s not right but it’s how it is.
The Crowley Green story brought me to tears. When will our justice system actually represent justice? We are not a free country.
You are right
When he admitted to adultery I was willing to respect him a bit for owning up to it, but then Phil said wait there's more and I just knew it would involve a kid somehow. It's terribly depressing how predictable men like this are...I hope he rots and I very much hope she receives the help and support she deserves.
The alleged abuse aside, do you think adultery should be prohibited?
@@pollytix7271 Bit of a sussy thing to say. Adultery is fucked up but not illegal, It's immoral. Molesting and having sex with a minor is both amoral and illegal. If you don't see what the pastor did as bad, that's on you. Also, considering the victim and abuser both confirmed it happened, it's not alleged.
lmao and these types of people get jury duty
I felt the same way. Pretty brave to admit your mistakes, but abusing a child is not a mistake. It's a choice. I agree with Phil though, there is so much hypocrisy in religion.
When Phil mentioned the pastor’s age, I was like “I see where this is going.”
"Our country is diseased and many of the people put into power are denying you medicine." Goddamn Phil, if that's not the truth in a nutshell. Please don't ever stop doing what you do. As enraging as it is and as exhausting as it must be for you and your crew, please don't stop. We NEED voices like yours in times like today. Thank you.
I need that quote on a shirt, banner, or something 🙌🏾
Same thing goes for the intro. I felt like it just encompassed so many of the things I feel about American issues on a daily basis
Or are actively poisoning the well.
What is the medicine? I’m asking this without motive. Just curiosity.
@@gregoryrelmore The medicine is common sense gun laws that have bipartisan support among voters but Republicans keep shooting down in Congress.
“I’ve been drained of the ability to be sad and all that can fill that hole now is rage” - Phil
Preach
too bad he's mad at guns because that's the Narrative. Maybe when him and all the sheeple stop bleating their suffering screams all over each other like every opportunity to express their outrage is an invitation to a blind orgy, actual solutions to systemic problems can be addressed. But while you are all exaggerating the loss of 19 lives, thousands more innocent children died. A large majority of which are actually preventable through regulation. And if Phil truly wanted to help stop gun violence, he'd stop using these events for personal gains.
I saw that in motion when my little brother got wind of the news from his friends, he skipped sadness and went to rage, and I feel the same too, but also a kind of hopelessness thanks to the inaction and repetition of the same gruesome events
rest in peace to those unfortunate kids and 2 adults, this is my tiny contribution
Times are tough right now. Thanks for doing what you can.
@Joshua Grahm not really trying to get into a political debate, I was trying to show support for the victims and their families. But I believe when you make a law, you’re making a law for a law abiding citizen. Criminals will not follow laws, if anything really we should be arming more good people so that we can have a faster response to these kind of situations.
Appreciate you doing something. Donating directly to the Gofundme would have probably been better though, since RUclips will be eating up 30% of this donation.
@Joshua Grahm yes, laws made for law abiding citizens. What do criminals do? They break the law. It’s not rocket science man
@@Canadagraphs that’s not true, the super thanks rev goes directly to the creator, (or at least that’s what it says)
Can I just say I LOVE that the men in the church confronted him with “did you do it? Yes or no” instead of shaming her or making her go away.
CHADS
Most of religious people, same thing with the Any other group, only mostly bad gets shown.
Oddly enough, that indicates a strong church…minus the pastor.
@@lucast7092 Wish that was the case, however in both the military and churches the abusers get treated much better than they should while the victims are either ignored or shamed.
@@lucast7092 tell that to the hundreds of thousands of victims in America alone abused by their churches, whos abusers have and continue to get away scot free. Let’s not act like it’s a small minority that turn their heard or straight up shame abuse victims. How often have you seen people shame their priests and pastors and not support them?
Why would they shame her lol
The way the pastor situation played out is super sus too. There's no way he "decided to come clean", the girl was clearly on the brink of outting this and he was just trying to get ahead of it. Such a garbage human being on so many levels. Dude probably felt the relief of a life time when he thought he was free of it before she ripped his asshole apart with that confession.
Yep. He tried to make it at sound like a typical affair between adults, and he didn’t have the balls to admit it even after the congregation confronted him.
When I was part of a church, well two, both has two pastors who cheated on their wives. Which, fucked up all in all. And I’m the grapevine it’s always the: “you need to go to and tell them what happened or we will”
you are exactly right. it turned out that other leaders of the church had been told what happened by the woman, and had confronted him, so this was their 'solution' in order for him to quit but the church not have controversy. but the woman wasn't gonna let him get away with lying and trying ot make himself or the church look better.
Yeah, that girl already had her speech ready (not trying to downplay her, just saying it's obvious she was ready to speak up and he thought he'd spin her narrative)
typical cult figure heads
Thanks!
I actually live in Warsaw Indiana and used to attend this guy's church. It was a suprise to most of the auidence, but they layed hands on him and forgave him on the spot. Some people walked out. My grandmother was there for the whole thing and was just shocked and confused. It was a suprise, and awoke my town pretty heavily. The guy is getting run out of town however, but I hope that talking about it he never finds work in ministry ever again.
Cops are already investigating
@@TheBiggestMoronYouKnow Good.
If the church is like the Catholic Church they will just move him to a different church and bury the stories of abuse and pedophilia
Honestly, I am loving pissed off DeFranco. These last couple episodes have been some of your best work man. Letting it out, letting the world fucking hear what needs to be heard. Thank you man! It's about fuckin time we started this here revolution.
Yeah but hes pissed off because recent events, not because of a persona he's trying to create.
Same, but I fear it is at the cost of his mental health. This isn't a character he's putting out.
It leads to extremely bad biased news reporting which barely can be constituted as reporting. He's choosing a side and goes on the offensive against the other side based on strawman arguments and angry emotion. Might as well apply to join CNN or ABC at this point.
@@pollytix7271 didn't realize that massacring children was such a political issue in this country, goddamn.
The topics are what’s making him pissed off… as it should for all of us!
Crosley Green's story breaks my heart so much. I hope he doesn't go back to prison but I don't have much hope in the justice system.
I completely agree. I wish I had hope that he'd stay free, but it's our justice system, so the likelihood is pretty slim, very unfortunately.
I don’t understand how he’s going back???? Sounds like he clearly didn’t do it
we don't have a justice system we have a legal system
Had me crying at work in front of everyone
Hearing his sister say how happy she was to finally have him around at holidays again absolutely broke my heart... That family deserves to make up for lost time
Thanks for taking the time to speak honestly on all of this. Keep at it, brother.
Genuinely laughed so loud at the bed swimming. Love it. Desperately needed. Everything else sucks.
The commitment really sold it.
It breaks my heart just thinking what these parents are currently going through😔My daughter still has another week of school left until summer break, but this morning before leaving for work I woke her up, hug and kiss her and told her I loved her.
This is why the gulag was created, to get sick people like the shooter to receive real torture!
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I’m not sure what the parents are going through…. Probably funeral brochures.
All in all, it is tragic though. However.. it happens so much in this country it’s ridiculous.
It’s heartbreaking that saying goodbye to your child before school feels like saying goodbye to someone going off to war… this country needs to protect its children.
@@thealaskanforever this seems like an incredibly crass response...
Here's something that'll do more than thoughts and prayers.
People's prayers to god lead god to make the charity you are giving to. Prayer works 🙏😇
@@jaserader6107 wondering why God doesn’t just make those praying people give the charity then.
long time viewer the increase in interviews adds some real depth to your reporting. keep it up!
Woman: Why didn't you tell us she's 14?
Monster: No, no, no. She wasn't. She was 16.
Woman: Oh, that's much better 🙄
that dude should be a lawyer, got some game going on
Well it is a lot better. You probably forget that 16 is legal in most states.
@@Mac-po1sr and 12 is IegaI in many countries, what is your point?
@@Mac-po1sr Yes there is legal age of consent but she is still a minor...
@@Mac-po1sr oh yes and it makes it much better.
Starting off with a Phil with no fucks left to give. What a day to be alive
Is this living?
That poor woman, the victims of the shooting and Crossley Green. My heart hurts today after this show
Deeply emotional show today… I’m blessed to watch it. Whew, a lot of emotion
Thank you for the update and news.
Unfortunately, there are many others wrongfully convicted and trapped in the system similar to how Crosley Green was.
absolutely disgusting. how this is still even an open case baffles me, there is literally NO TANGIBLE EVIDENCE!
And the hole is unimaginably deep.
America's justice system is a glorified slaver racket. That's what happens when you monetise prison labour. Wrongful and unjust imprisonment is a feature, not a bug.
@@auliamate last week tonight on wrongful convictions. its insanely difficult to overturn a ruling, since you basicially suddenly have to provide evidence that the prosecutors didnt even have or withheld.
"I feel that I have been drained from the ability to be sad". OMG, can I relate to that! Thank you Phil for putting words on something I have dealt with the last 2 years!
It called burnout. Unfortunately, the only thing I've found helps is ignoring the news - compartmentalising it - and then be the best person I can for others.
@@ranimeRAT Facts, it's clear that Phil is in a mood , let's not pretend like it's healthy. Both Phil and Denis need to work on their mental health.
@@MAKD88 Absolutely, well, for me at least!
@@ranimeRAT Me too, I have refused to watch/read any articles regarding Uvalde. I am just not equipped right now to deal with such a tragedy.
Thank you in advance for donating all the money from today's show to the victim's fund of the Texas elementary school massacre. I salute you, Phil.
@Abasisten you’re not actually going to sit here and claim you can do as much damage with a knife as you can an assault rifle. If you believe that you’re just as deranged as the kids who do these shootings.
I’m a Canadian living in Germany, and the gun thing is just so absurd. My son is in fourth grade, and it’s just heartbreaking and absurd to imagine something like that would happen to him and his classmate. It’s enraging. 😫
I've really appreciated all of the interviews and direct sources in the past few shows. I hope y'all are able to keep getting these responses to comment requests.
Phil gave a fair warning. He said today's show was gonna be a doozy, and my idiotic self thought I'd be fine. This is by no means Phil's fault, but this video has thoroughly destroyed me mentally and emotionally and I think I'm just gonna call it a day at 6:00pm.
Feeling very much the same.
12 in london- it needs to be a night for me but im here =/ terrible hearing news like this from home
toughen up. geez.
@@cautionfiamable you’re part of the problem.
Same. It’s one horrendous thing after another currently in the news. It’s just a lot. Much love to you.
30 years? Jesus let that man go home to his family. That should be time served even if he was guilty
its a cover up by the incompetent police and their arm in the government
It is crazy how much skin color affects things. I hate this, but I am so glad that I am not darker. It shouldn't be that way, but my life would be so much harder if I was, and I know that from being a POC. That guy is in prison entirely for being black, and the sentence for that crime is a lifetime of punishment, whether you are put in prison or not.
After seeing that, he really begs to go back to living a normal life
yeah, over here a politician got shot in the head, killer out after 13 years (granted, that may be too lenient), in Brazil a guy killed 71 people of which 47 while in prison, got out after 42 years. Meanwhile this man, guilty of nothing more than breathing while black is still locked up after over 30 years? And he'd be lucky to get a settlement after all this, despite money not bringing your 30+ wasted years back. God forbid they hold the prosecutor or detectives responsible.
@@bararobberbaron859 black man, or rather, guilty until proven innocent.
Loving the new set… breaks things up and with so much happening, being at home feels good. Wishing comfort and peace to the families because 2022 shouldn’t be like this 🥺
I am a teacher in Texas. This is my life everyday: Wondering if it’s my school next.
And politicians do NOTHING. They love their guns and money too much.
And they’re going to try to expect you to carry a gun. Even though the cops couldn’t even enter the building with theirs. Fucking sick
But the public carrying guns all over the place stops it. I'm sorry but I'm so sick of seeing US citizens who talk about how tired they are of it, yet half hearted protests if any and life goes on as their children die. You as US citizens don't care, if you did you would do something about it. It's like bullying in schools, teachers are sick of seeing it but they are perfectly happy to watch it continue. I can't hold it in anymore because you don't give a damn, you just don't want to see it. Corporations own your country and you know it and you like it. If you didn't you would have done something, anything by now. Not a protest, not a march, not even a half assed attempt at making a difference. It's been happening all my life nearly and i'm in my 40's. Stop saying you care because you don't, your children die and you say your tired and you go on with your life with zero done about it. If a million US citizens marched on to the lawn of the captial, sat down and said I'm not moving until you do something that has a shot at working it would have to change. No violence needed. But you as a country won't, because you don't give a damn. You just don't want to hear about it. PROVE ME WRONG. I'm over 40 and it's been happening all my life and every time people in the US go, "This time it will be different." No it won't.
I have so much respect for you and your fellow teachers. Thank you so much for teaching our kids.
The Columbine shootings happened when I was in school. We had gun drills, we had escape plans in every classroom. We weren't allowed to wear jackets or hoodies inside the building for fear of someone smuggling guns. It's insane that it's gotten worse since then and that was in the 90's.
That pastor actually fixed his mouth to say “say WE did it” as though she had a choice! As though she wasn’t a minor that he used and abused! He deserves to be in jail!
Given that it was Indiana, the age of consent is only 16. Something that probably played into it all.
@@DaultonYoung its still statutory rape i think
@@DaultonYoung he was in a position of power. He was a grown man twice her age at the time who used his position of authority to get what he wanted. He is a monster
@@DaultonYoung irrelevant
@@Nevertoleave proof? He's a shitty guy but that's a lot of baseless assumptions
I almost feel like she said "she was 14" on purpose as a tactic to get him to admit it. The classic "she said she was 12"
Nah, she sounded so dumb.
I have to get out of my city and state … my moms a retired teacher and I spent the last 2 hours on Facebook about arming teachers.. I’m just so defeated.. one person said that there is a risk that comes with any job.. I just want to cry and I’m 30… I hate it here
Driving for work today I passed several flags at half staff, and I couldn't remember which national tragedy we were mourning this time. That's the saddest part for me.
Literally had the exact same thought today. Every day something awful happens or is an anniversary of something awful happening, it seems.
Hey Phil, I am a teacher and just felt so hopeless for this and so many other reasons. But there is still joy there. There is still kindness. We had a murder on my campus this year and began using metal detectors today. But also today I got to be surrounded by joyous kids with smiles and raised voices asking for help identifying chords vs tangents and sparkles of "I got this" when they finally could solve for x. They are worth fighting for still. Please don't let them make you forget the joy and good and beautiful in the world. It is the biggest scam they can pull to convince us the fight to stop this is already over and lost.
Yes we need more of this! Life is hard and complex but it is also the easiest life humans have ever lived. Also one day we are all going to die and there is a good chance you will stop existing FOREVER! So be grateful and enjoy this world as much as possible because one day it will be taken away and you'll probably cease to exist.
I agree with you but i also agree with Phil. On Phil's plane, it's hard when you're a spokesman for many people on the shitty (and sometimes great) things going on in our world, and honestly to invigorate people, you have to be emotional... i think he has it right in that that you have to be angry or upset to change things. To persuade other people, you can't be happy and content, otherwise change cannot be made. But... that's not to say, if you were in this situation (or one you commented about), and you have to go back to everyday life, that angry is the right way to think.... in your perspective, i think you have it right - going back with a positive perspective is the right move... young kid's lives and minds depend on it.
@@Daniel-kz3df I think it needs both: the rage to fight for change and a joy to fight for. My comment was more to try to cheer Phil on. I don't deny that he carries a lot -- I already know how motivating my 100s of kids during a time when it feels so hopeless is difficult so I can't imagine what he may feel. But the anger is absolutely right. We have to have rage in order to get a change -- I guess I didn't express myself well really. Because there is joy and good still there, I feel energized to keep fighting. I wanted to share that moment because without those shining moments the world can feel so dark for me and I thought it may be the same for others. Because I know/am reminded the world is not all darkness and evil in those moments, I feel able to keep fighting.
Hearing Crosley beg to stay with his family brought a tear to my eye. I really hope he is acquitted and gets a fat settlement because he deserves to get his life back but he never will.
I honestly think this is one reason why prosecutors fight overturning such cases so hard--the state does not want to be on the hook for millions. Same thing happened in the West Memphis 3 case. After 20 years in prison the wrongfully accused ended up giving an Alford plea just to get the rest of their lives back. Shameful.
Loving all the interviews you guys have been getting lately!
Okay but hear me out, Phil. We need an "everything is bullshit and nothing matters" t-shirt with like rainbows and flowers on it
Right?!
Yessssss
Sadly, he could create that shirt and with the next event, put the money made towards the next fund. But, I agree, shirt is a definite must at this point.
PLS
Add to it a unicorn pooping out those rainbows and flowers.
On the swimming thing; swimming used to be a mandatory skill to learn in primary school in my country. By law it was determined that all people need to know how to swim because we live in a country that could get flooded anytime if something goes wrong because we technically live below the water line. And I think that's a really good thing, we should absolutely learn survival skills.
"Technically live under the water line", You can just say the Netherlands or how you guys prefer "Holland" There is no other freaky country that dares fight the laws of nature like that.
kidding, you might have guessed I am a neighbour from your southern border and couldn't pass up dunking on you guys.
@@killiansonck6278 I was hoping someone pointed out that only the Dutch say "we technically could end up under water" and it not being rlated to global warming, but plain old turning water into land sh*t :)
Swimming used to be mandatory in many countries; U.S. too…businesspeople managing school curriculum erased this mandate
Here in Sweden we have to prove that we can swim at least once in during grades 1-3 (ages 7-9, the school chooses when), then at least once in grades 4-6 (ages 10-12, again the school chooses when) and lastly at least once in grades 7-9 (ages 13-15, again the school chooses which year). During grades 4-6 and 7-9 we also have to learn about "common sense", safety and how to handle an emergency when in and around water. During grades 7-9 we also have to learn CPR to complete it.
We only have mandatory school up until then but to continue with life you'll have to go to a thing called "gymnasium" which is like our high school. During that time we have a course in PE and during it we have to show more extensive skills when it comes to the things we were taught in PE during grades 1-9. For example we have to learn what to do if the ice breaks and we fall into the water, have to show that we can float, tread water, swim 2km, dive and swim under water, etc.
I'm glad we have all this education about how to behave around water and that you should be careful but also to handle emergencies when they occur and how to swim, during our whole time in school. This makes sure that no matter your socioeconomic status or if you're an immigrant, you will have to learn these vital skills and you'll be able to be around water and enjoy it.
@@killiansonck6278
Hahaha, I appreciate your comment.
I don't think most people know that the Netherlands is below the water line though, hence my phrasing.
Call us if you need to get your roads fixed neighbour ;)
You nailed it Phil. They do not give a fuck about children. They cry “save the babies” about zygotes, but when it comes to saving 7 yr olds all they have is thoughts and prayers.
Exactly. Disgusting.
Have you ever considered that people who are against abortion are that way because they have moral objections to their TAX DOLLARS being used on such morally gray practice? Regardless of the "rights" debate involving when a fetus is actually alive or the rights of some irresponsible girl to be promiscuous, is it moral to put that decision on the American tax payer in any way?
@@reidsimpson4213 So if the two of us have sex and the condom breaks I’m “irresponsible”? If someone rapes me I’m “irresponsible”? If I want to have a baby but the fertilized egg implants in my Fallopian tube instead of my uterus, and if I don’t have an abortion I will bleed out and die - I’m “irresponsible”?
Access to abortions isn’t about “irresponsible girls”. It’s about healthcare and harm reduction.
@@Copperyfoxx most of the cases you're talking about already have protection under the law, especially in ectopic pregnancies, the law always prioritizes the life of the mother first. Most states recognize exceptions for rape and incest, Oklahoma is a weirdo exception to that, I'll grant you. As for the condom breaking, well, I appreciate it hon, but I'm spoken for, and that's a case of personal choice of contraceptive care. Not the fault of the tax payer nor the fetus you didn't simply use the pill instead, is it?
@@reidsimpson4213
I’m case no one ever told you, calling someone you don’t know “hun” is very condescending and makes me think that you’re not really looking for a meaningful conversation, but rather you just want to upset people. If you did not intend to be condescending, now you know!
Blaming women and calling them irresponsible is sexiest and ignorant.
If you start putting women in the position of “if you get raped you can have an abortion”, then you are going to have women lying about getting raped so that they have access to an abortion. It’s a lose-lose all around.
If you are actually looking to have a thoughtful conversation on the topic, that’s amazing! Thank you for wanting to broaden your understanding.
If you are looking to be condescending for the purposes of stirring the pot, I won’t be engaging with you further, but I wish you the best.
Thank you for this. My wife has trouble sleeping. I will show her this.
The giving of "Thoughts and Prayers" are for those who have no power to affect a situation; They should not be coming from people who have the ability to effect change and choose not to.
i liked his joke about thoughts and prayers in the open, that was smooth and i'm going to steal that
everyone has the power to affect every situation. It's just more convenient to send thoughts and prayers. This is where the entire social delusion breaks down. At some point, even if it's not your fault, YOU have choose to take responsibility. And you won't. YOU choose convenience. And why wouldn't you? Everyone else does too.
@@ZennExile ya but WE are not in the Senate and WE don't have the power to do something. The politicians are supposed to represent the people. They clearly are not.
@@calliew311 why did you ever allow yourself to be deluded enough to think someone you don't know, who didn't live your life, could ever have your best interests in mind in the first place? YOU have to be the solution. YOU have to change your delusional expectations.
There is no messiah coming to save anyone. There are no heroes, and there are no villains. There are only people who choose convenience, and people who exploit those people for power.
That coaches speech demanding to know when something will be done, his voice cracking. Gave me chills. I can't even imagine what it's like to live in this bizarre world where it's not unreasonable to wonder if you will see your child again at the end of the day. Of going to school as a child, forced to go through drills practicing for the day a shooter decides to come to your school. Of working in an environment where you are aware that it's not entirely unlikely that one day someone will show up with a gun and try to shoot up the place. How does one deal with the mental toll of that, and still thrive? It's absolutely insane. The mental health numbers a few decades down the line will be full of these kids growing up in this kinds of circumstances, and developing all kinds of issues.
argumentum ad passiones is an informal fallacy characterized by the manipulation of the recipient's emotions in order to win an argument, especially in the absence of factual evidence. Does no one understand how outrage media works? Is that the problem? Yall have to know this gun debate is unwinnable. You have to know that these isolated instances of violence on children are being exaggerated in the media to inspire political divisions and the will to "vote" ahead of election cycles.
Is it not clear to the rest of you? You are being manipulated by outrage media. Thousands of children, innocent children, died that day. You've been manipulated into reacting emotionally to the loss of 19 out of THOUSANDS. You've been convinced that in a country where 30,000,000 children are enrolled and attending school at any given moment that dying to gun violence is a COMMON THREAT.
How many kids out of 30,000,000 need to die in a year to define that threat as "common"? Just a ballpark guess will do.
He also lost his father in a shooting so I can only imagine the rage and anger fueling his pain.
I dropped out of college due to this, no amount of control at college will prevent the lax laws on ownership in the state. If you think logically you can see every possible way someone can have the drop on the campus police and students. Doesnt take a genius. This is why I would avoid crowds and my way out of school was the area with the most cover, less corners and less students. That way I can see if someone was holding something
@@lunesterv5802 everyone should be angry that this happens, absolutely furious, and people should take that fury and weaponize it against those who are doing nothing. Turn that anger into action.
It's horrible what has happened and hopefully politicians can come together and figure out some kind of solution but we should be careful not to over manufacture trauma. Although it is important for us to recognize that 1 life gone is too many, statistically you are amongst the most unlucky people on the planet if you die in a mass shooting. Less than 2000 people have died from mass shootings since 2009 in America. It is not a widespread thing that you should be worried about day to day, it is an incredibly unlikely event. For comparison 38,000 die from car crashes A YEAR. Mass shootings, as frequent as they are becoming, remain a statistical anomaly so if you have kids they are probably going to be just fine!
"School shooting wouldn't happen if school teachers have guns." - some people saying this unironically
Imagine a 300 pound Karen math teacher trying to fight off a berserk man lol
Two armed policemen couldn’t even stop him from entering the school. Armed teachers won’t do anything.
how far has a country gone when it is expected for an elementary school teacher to need to have a gun for a job in education...
“School shooting wouldn’t happen if we banned guns.” - some people saying this unironically
@@TheGuardian_TM then what’s your brilliant plan? Don’t shoot down ideas unless you have another to contribute.
Your show is my main news source, love u buddy!
As a Christian, the first story makes me unbelievably angry. 20 years or not.. he deserves punishment.
As a Christian too... the Bible is pretty much clear what to do to adulterers and rapists.
He should be stoned to death outside of the city by his victim and his church.
The only tiny modicum of justice with the video as future proof: the dude is straight unemployable as a professional spiritual leader. Confessing to adultery could've still gotten him the pulpit, but a church worth any weight wouldn't pay this guy even to mop their floors for a rapist who tried to pass it off as anything but.
.he won't and u know it.
@@kiyokochanable Sure, he'll probably start a little home church with a handful of people who bury their heads in the sand (because disgraced pastors prove to be narcissists), but his public persona is forever ruined. The woman he raped was brave enough to take the mic and tell the congregation...who were disgusted.
He will never have the level of power he did a minute before he started confessing.
ur brainwashed into believing that theres a magical man in the sky thats in control of everything
I saw a collage of all the victims faces on facebook without context or reading the caption and broke down because I just knew there had been another mass shooting. Hearing that these were 4th graders, from 8-10 years old and all of them are gone leaves me with a pit in my stomach. That senator yelling on the floor summed up my feelings to a T and I started weeping while still feeling unbelievably angry.
All I can think about is how scared those kids must have been, and how much of a travesty it is for lawmakers to do nothing about it.
In the past 2 years more than ever before I have heard, in effect, that the country is being held hostage by 50 senators and I can't express how true it feels more and more.
@D12 Raging I don't think theyre a bot theyve just been spamming the comment section with the same comments
@@jeanettw2341 yes, but like, gun control + mental health assistance = mass shooters being caught early and set back on the right path alongside making mass shootings harder to commit since a gun won't be so easy to get alongside other things you should go look for a proper paper on i'm no criminal psychologist don't take my words for it
They've moved from "thoughts and prayers" to "horrified and heartbroken" 😠
How can they be horrified and heartbroken and yet do nothing?? I hate to say it but if it were one of their kids action would have been taken immediately. We’d have gun laws out the ass if one of them lost a child to gun violence.
@@stephanie7142 They have proposed solutions such as better mental health treatment (yes the shooter was clearly mentally ill, aggressive, actively hurt himself, romanticized knives and guns, was malicious, dreamt about hurting others, Phil misled people here), placing veterans or guards in schools with e.g. the money that is being thrown away on Ukraine, the border or projects that don't benefit the US. Backgrounds checks are already in place in most areas, gun free zones are a thing and regulations do exist. And some of the most restrictive places for gun use (Controlled by the democratic party) have most of the gun violence. hmmm why didn't you guys or Phil mention this?
@@pollytix7271 Did you miss the part where police and a school resource officer were already at the school and failed to stop him from entering, and then stood outside for an hour before going in after him? The "good guys with guns" did absolutely *nothing,* don't even try making the argument that guards at schools would help.
@@pollytix7271 First of all, money isn't being "thrown away on Ukraine". There's a reason why it's called the world's bread basket. If that conflict isn't resolved quickly and both Russia and Ukraine restart their exports, there's going to be a massive global grain shortage. That includes feed for livestock in addition to wheat and rice as ingredients for everything else. Meanwhile, China has been hoarding a giant supply of grain. What do you think will happen to US society if the Chinese Communist Party gets to decide who eats and who starves?
As far as proposed solutions go, they clearly haven't worked or been implemented in a manner where they're readily accessible or effective. Especially anything with the word "health" included.
And really, how desperate do you have to be as a nation if the answer to gun violence is to add more guns, by posting armed guards or war veterans at entrances to schools or arming teachers? Soldiers shouldn't be made shoot more people on their home turf after coming home from war in other countries, and we need less guns around children!
Also, a gun in the hands of *every* teacher? They have to deal with misbehaving children every day! We've seen teachers clash violently with students before! You really want to put a deadly weapon in the hands of people who spend several hours a day dealing with 30+ brats who won't sit still and be taught? Just imagine the worst case scenario -- that's what you're asking for here!
As far as "gun free zones" go, those hardly matter when the supply of automatic weapons remains a possibility in the next zip code over, particularly across political borders. Of course gun violence continues to happen in a Democratic state when there's a Republican state nearby, pushing pro-gun propaganda. Who do you think Republicans are going to target for speaking out against them? The ones with "a liberal agenda" of course! The only way any one gun free zone can work is if the whole country is rid of them. Freed from them, if you will!
In fact, how's about this for a concept: America is not a free country until it is free from fear. Fear of existential threats to life. Guns are explicitly designed to be an existential threat to life. You are not free while guns exist in such a readily available manner.
The USA is not a free country. But it could be. And it should be. You've made changes to your constitution before, that's why they're called amendments. You've even amended amendments before! It's time to do it again, this time to the second amendment. Because every child should have a right to both an education and to life. And no parent should have to bury the body of their child because of some punk with a gun.
@@matthewshiers9038 i stopped reading after you said 'As far as "gun free zones" go, those hardly matter when the supply of automatic weapons remains a possibility in the next zip code over," because getting a automatic weapon is very difficult, time consuming, and Expensive. and doing any mods to a firearm to make it one is HIGHLY illegal. but good luck with where ever else you are wrong about
Thank you for all of your hard work!
I see Pastor John took a page from the Kevin Spacey confessional book.
I work in a school in texas and when I heard about the shooting I was standing in a hallway full of children getting hugs and fist bumps and with baby's yelling out to me how their day went and summer plans... I can not even imagine losing any of these baby's.. can't imagine that 2 days before I lose them for the summer that they could be gone forever... my heart aches at the thought... I am not a politician or an interest group I don't use big words and change laws but I know this.... this is not the world I want thses kids to have to grow up into... something has to change because we cannot keep losing people to this kind of senseless violence... and it's insanity to think that if we keep doing what we are that things are gonna change... we need less thoughts and prayers and more policies and change..
I work in Warsaw and it is disgusting to hear my coworkers in MENTAL HEALTH question the victim. I hate that so many people here actively are defending him by blaming HER.
Welcome to the Midwest!! 😆
That's Christianity for you. Forgive the perpetrator, blame the victim.
@@Riplee86 And especially blame the woman or child
@@staticsiege Always has been.
What they argue to defend this groomer, how a 35 year old grow up man can control himself, but the 16 year old girl is totally responsible of her actions?
I live in South Africa.... My country is ridden with crime and mured.. But mass shootings? We have no mass shootings... This is just crazy..
it’s disgusting how some of these people that we put into power continue to do nothing while countless innocent lives are taken. what’s the point of power if the way you choose to keep it comes at the cost of those you’re supposed to protect
Many of the representatives in our government are not in it to change things. They are in it for the easy money.
It's not countless, it's 637.
@@piloslencure7884 found the guy in power :)
Because they dont care about you except themselves.... simple as that really.
so what gun law would have stopped this? There are simply too many guns in the US to ban them, so what would fix it? The issue is mental health, the kid was crazy and never got help, there was warning signs. People who want to talk about gun control without talking about mental health need to stfu.
The fact that some people still SUPPORT him after he admits he KNEW she was 16!
They are brainwashed
I'm glad you still at least mentioned the craziness that we shouldn't be allowed to forget what happened in Buffalo was not any less awful than what happened in texas
There were shootings in Dallas, Chicago and CA during the same timeframe. Assuming there's been many more shootings that we haven't heard about from many of the regions with the tightest gun restrictions too but we haven't heard about them because it's so common and the ability to politicize it to be about loose gun laws or white supremacy isn't there.
@@pollytix7271 And most of those are petty crimes turned bad or gang violence, stuff that can be solved by… I don’t know…. Making sure republicans never ever get into power, kicking out democrats, instating progressive candidates, and fixing the shitty economy and actually getting some people a way out of poverty and into being able to live. We could solve the vast majority of these killings, it’s hard but we can do it. But nothing you want will fix the problems, everything you want perpetuates them.
Every single fucking time a crisis happens, every single time a dozen children die because of lax gun laws you monster, you inhuman beasts come out and go “But what about Chicago! What about Dallas! What about gangs!” When you know for damn sure nothing, absolutely nothing you want to be done would fix those problems. You don’t care about the gang violence in Dallas or in Chicago, you don’t care about those people dying. They’re pawns in your game so you can make gun reform look bad even though it’s beyond proven at this point thst it helps. You never cared about the kids of Uvalde, never cared about the people of Buffalo, didn’t care about Columbine or Stoneman, or any other shooting. And you still don’t. You don’t care about the victims, you play a game of pretend so you can act like your the hero when everything you want is killing people. Stop with the pleasantry, and just say you’re fine with people dying. We all know you are.
@@pollytix7271 so your argument that we shouldn’t do anything to stop the shootings is that there are too many other shootings outside those patterns too? Great fucking point dumbass, less guns would solve that shit too. The existence of rampant gun violence also doesn’t mean that much of it isn’t driven by bigots, even if it’s only a percentage of the whole.
And the states that currently have stricter laws are held back by a lack of universal background checks and nearby states with little restrictions.
love the long episodes GIVE ME MOREEEE
As a Christian it is very painful to have my faith weaponized by monsters who adopt only ruin lives, obtain power, and avoid accountability. But I am relieved to see that a majority of fellow Christians within that congregation sided with the woman when told the full story and refused to let him hide behind his lies. That gives me hope.
This is what Christianity is pedophiles racism hate hypocrisy period and by supporting it you are responsible for all of it
As a Christian I agree.
Your religion creates and shelters and protects predators.
@@multiyapples as a cristian you are part of the problem
Christianity is the reason she felt like she was the problem and didn’t tell anyone in the first place, back when something could’ve been done to help her. They’re not weaponizing your faith, they’re following Christianity.
I left my church as a teen when our pastor, who had preached for his entire life that God delivered him from drug addiction and used that story as his testimony, was arrested for DUI, possession, and tampering with evidence, etc. He admitted that he had been using the entire time while preaching how God saved him from all that. I had been forced into counseling with this pastor as a teen, because my parents caught me smoking pot. And the entire time he was doing the same thing while counseling me. The congregation forgave him and voted for him to remain in his position as pastor. A few years later I heard they finally gave him the boot when he was caught having an affair with the church organist. *SIDE NOTE* : I am for legalization and have no problem with people smoking Marijuana or whatever they wanna do as long as it doesn't put others at risk or in danger. Its none of my business what others want to put in their body. The lies he told over and over again from behind the pulpit, as a central part of his testimony, along with him driving under the influence, was what I couldn't get past. I was completely disillusioned by the hypocrisy and lies, not the fact that he wanted to use drugs.
The fact that Phil could hold it together through this show is wild to me.
There was probably a lot of retakes
If he’s been in jail for over 30 years, I feel like it would be reasonable to release him even if he had committed the murder. And as it stands, it seems unlikely that he did. How did ten witnesses at a party get overruled by the single witness statement of the girlfriend who should have been one of the suspects? That doesn’t seem like ‘beyond a reasonable doubt’ at all, it seems like the girlfriend said so and they trusted her blindly.
Sadly, because the girlfriend is White, the other party participants were likely African-American, and this is America. Blind trust only goes one way here.
Isn't it unusual that Phil went as far as showing us his "heartfelt speech" but didn't go into detail why a appeals court ordered him to return to jail? Talk about brainwashing by using your emotions instead facts. Phil's come a long way in his manipulative ways and you fell for it.
@@Ramza941 Got any facts about the situation that you want to share with the class?
@@philip9823 Don't know. Figured the most important part Phil would've shared with us, you know? Everyone is commenting he should be free but no one knows why he was returned to jail 😝 i love it when certain facts are conveniently left out
@@philip9823 Well, look at here, "Later on in the trial, prosecutors put forward three witnesses who claimed Crosley had confessed to them. One of the witnesses was his own sister, Shelia Green." Well, funny how Phil forgot to mention that part, right?
The only thing that makes me even remotely happy about today's PDS is seeing the rage in Phil. Because I feel it too.
Please let Crosley go free. Leaving it up to Death Santis is just not an option. Other than Creator Clash, everything else is so heart rending. Between Sen. Murphy and Coach Kerr's response, still crying.
Same bruh ;-;; I'm crying while typing this rn
Wat crazy is the amount of up vote dis comment got compared 2 the pastor n the Texas shooting is absurd
So there was a reason the 3 judge panel ruled 3-0 to overturn. It’s sad because it sounds like he didn’t do it but We just watched a two minute recap all of you know a federal appeals system which takes yearsAnd the three judge panel refuse the whole case as if it were you the only thing they can change is the cherries decision they can see all of the evidence that was excluding and they were reviewed all that and gone over this case for months with clerks and among some selves so I would assume that they know a lot more about the case and I do so just because it sounds one-way who knows maybe there’s more to the story I don’t know sounds like he sugar-free but I just wouldn’t wouldn’t counter out the judges as racist who want execute an innocent mann
DeSantis won't care and unfortunately if I'm right about DeSantis I don't think this particular Supreme Court will either but I hope I'm wrong 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
@@bro5jonny To be fair, the heart rending I mentioned was in regards to the pastor being another douchebag of the day and Uvalde. Hence mentioning Murphy and Kerr. I have been crying all day as a mom of an 11 year old especially in a red county that's heavily farmland with a lot of old racists.
I saw someone have the audacity to say:
"We are a free society. We can have guns. So these tragedies are going to happen. It’s horrible. But it’s the trade we make. That’s just the brutal truth. It’s no good denying it."
If the price of our freedom is thousands of slaughtered children, that's not a price I'm willing to pay.
I don't want freedom if that's the cost
As a European, it's always funny in a sad way when I hear that whole phrase about the US being the land of the free and leaders of the free world. When you figure out basic aspects of society, come back and see us about that. Until then we'll be over here enjoying the oppression of free health care, education and lack of mass-shootings.
I felt like you were particularly good with the words today. Thanks for the news.
Many years ago, I saw someone ask the question "How many children have to die to gun violence before Republicans change their minds?" At this point, I don't think that question works anymore; for many people in this country, there isn't a number. Half of all schoolkids in the US could die in mass shootings tomorrow and they still wouldn't do anything substantial.
Instead, I offer a new question: "Which child has to die to gun violence before you change your mind?"
To republicans what’s a thousand deaths compared to a million dollars? They don’t care so long as they are comfortable. They need to be made uncomfortable, their houses need to be protested at, their place of work protested at, their car blocked off from pulling out of the driveway, their livelihood made more difficult. They are killing people, a mild inconvenience like a five hour delay to work is nothing compared to the loss of a child due to something that could’ve been prevented. Cowards, vipers, the lot of them.
@Abasisten Of course not, but people driving their cars into crowds are already rare and cars themselves have had regulations in place for decades. You have a point about the culture, though; the US has an obsession with guns that other countries don't have.
That being said, nobody needs an AR-15 for home defense and they certainly don't need it to hunt. As for my question, it's meant to be a test of character. If the person has an actual answer, it shows how self-centered they are. If they don't have an answer, it's worse because that means that nothing will change their mind.
I can see why my question would get that kind of response, but I'll put it into perspective: I'm Canadian. Outside of a few hunting rifles owned by distant relatives, I have never seen a firearm up close. I also have a half-brother living in the US who is around the age of these kids. I get wound up by these stories because I don't want him to become another statistic.
@Abasisten Is it legal to walk around with a fully loaded rifle, handgun, and with ammo in your country with zero permit and zero license?
Another question: would you hand the keys to your vehicle to someone who doesn’t have a permit and doesn’t have a license? I wouldn’t. In America cars are literally required, I work 40 miles (64km) away from where I live. That would be a hell of a bikeride if it was downhill but I live in a very hilly area. I need my car, but I also agree less people deserve them. Cars should be harder to get and the test to get them in the US is way too easy, seen by how many crashes there are in the US. Citing one case of a person using a vehicle to harm others does not compare to the thousands of gun deaths that happen every year. Making them harder to get, and having a system in which you destroy illegally owned guns or hold them for legal purchasers, would lose the amount of guns in criminals hands and lower the amount of guns in general but also allow those we deserve them (who have gone through training etc etc) to have them.
This ‘media is the problem’ stuff is the same thing as saying ‘games cause violence’, there hasn’t been statistical evidence of that happening. Not even anecdotal since a lot of these shooters when they do play games play like Minecraft or American Truck Simulator.
@Abasisten I never said we needed to remove all guns or cars or whatever, I mean if I could I would I’m sure you’d also agree if you could snap your fingers and suddenly no more need for guns and no more need for cars you’d snap your fingers INSTANTLY. I do want to get to a world where the only people with guns are the best of the best, the people who truly put the effort in. But that’s a hard thing, the things I argue for will get closer to that, but gotta get beyond republicans and the NRA. I own guns, and I like them. I just think less should have them.
Media doesn’t incentivize being scared of their fellow neighbor, or at least I feel that’s very very VERY oversimplified. As a trans person, I am genuinly terrified by some of my neighbors. Why? I live in Texas, and I’ve been threatened before, and part of that is supported by Republican leaders. I’m not afraid for no reason, I don’t have a gun for no reason. The media can be overzealous in how it treats various groups, but we have to look at what is and isn’t realistic. And overwhelmingly the anti-realism is more right leaning news stations. Most news is simply just trying to spin whatever story to make money, which is grim but hardly to blame for someone purchasing 2 rifles, 400 rounds of ammo, and going on a rampage. People don’t go on rampages just because the news said something. It might help, just as violent video games make violence seem less abhorrent but aren’t rhe cause so too do news stations make things less abhorrent but also aren’t the cause. To say otherwise is abject oversimplification. Like I have a reason to kinda be afraid of some republicans, especially Republican leaders. But republicans don’t have a reason to be afraid of me, a 5’4 trans person trying to just be happy and play video games in peace.
I will say the claim that cops shoot unarmed black men is true, they shoot unarmed people in general way too often. We need to have better trained officers, which is what much of the protests were about.
Also Darrell Brooks is nowhere I’ve seen tied to any of this?
@Abasisten As far as I know MSNBC retracted that statement, as far as I can tell as well many of their online articles have also bee edited to reflect that he was armed.
It's just so damn heartbreaking 💔 I can't begin to imagine their unimaginable pain, I cry for them and their children. These kids deserved better..Thank you Phil for donating.
As someone who lived very close to Sandy Hook when it happened and was in high school, the shooting still rocks me ten years later. I thought I would die that day (rumors flew there were 6 gunmen, not 1), and I still get shaken when these happen. Republicans downplay this shit too fucking often. Not even the Republicans in my hometown would downplay the loss of human life in such a way. It makes me feel like emigration is the only way to achieve change on a personal level. Murphy did good, but to answer his "Why are you here?" It's to enrich themselves and maintain power. That's it. They are cockroaches.
Caca-roaches!
It’s a weird paradox catch-22 type thing. The people who WANT to govern are almost never the ones who are actually good at governing. I’d take Steve Kerr over the average GOP member any day of the week, and yet there aren’t many people like him in government.
You know what, I understand every single us citizen that wants to migrate outta there. Some Americans like to say that it’s the greatest country of all (American exceptionalism is kicking hard) but honestly the grass is so much greener somewhere else.
Unlimited sick days. Social security and health care. Births that don’t cost an arm and a leg. No active shooter drills because they are not needed. Free universities - for heavens sake Spain even introduced sick leaves for the days one is plagued with the pain of menstruation.
A life like that is possible. And that it’s not possible in the United Stated as it is hurts my soul for every single one of you. You deserve it. Everyone does.
It’s such a shame that these corrupt people in power won’t do something to actually help you and do something for the country you love and call home.
(Ps: I’m not saying that other countries are perfect. No country is. God knows I said a lot of colourful words about my government as well. But I got to be raised in an environment in which I didn’t have to train for the moment someone walks into my school, trying to take my life. And that’s what I wish for every kid in school)
@@cmdrlawliet3552 Most New England Republicans HATE the national party in one form or another.. but a two party system is what we have so the moderately right have to hitch their wagons to crazy.
To think Murphy isn’t in government to enrich himself is naive. They’re all in it for the money.
My family went to a church where the pastor was also the head of a conservative Christian school. When I say conservative, I mean, the girls had to where long skirts, the girls couldn't cut their hair, they couldn't go to the movies (although I saw them often at the theater), and many other things. (ETA: I believe this was 2011-2012, so not that long ago.) The pastor was a creep and always made me feel icky. My parents wondered why I didn't go to church with them or why I didn't want to go to his house when they were invited. Then, we found out that he committed adultery and was fired from the school and church. But I will never be convinced that it wasn't rape. Good riddance to him. This happens way more often than we'll know.
Also, I know it sounds weird to us Americans who aren't required to do any physical labor, but I actually think the swimming requirement is a good thing. We always talk about how stupid it is that schools don't teach us things that are actually useful in life. That's what they're doing in Shanghai. I wouldn't mind that here.
This story just makes me want to cry that's what it does they might have to put this guy back into jail after 32 years of being in jail for wrong prosecution?! That is just disappointing in so many ways this is exactly why I don't trust the judicial system in America.
Did you type that before finishing because if that story didn't do it the last one sure will.
“Exhausted rage” captures it perfectly. Today, I just cried off and on, and hugged my kids. All day, I just spontaneously hugged my kids. I am so sick of “thoughts and prayers.”
Yup I’m right there with him. I have nieces that age and I pray to whatever being is out there that I never get that call. I can’t even imagine what you parents are feeling.
Schools need better security tbh. The school I go to has overweight "security guards" and others that are elderly. The front doors that are supposed to be hard to open can be open easily by just using your own strength.
Your comment is edgy atheist cringe.
@@commentcringe1422 how in the actual burning hell, is a parent that loves and cares about their child, cringe? Like wtf is wrong with you?
@@Bird.Lover6000 "I am so sick of 'thoughts and prayers'". You know what I was commenting on when I called it "edgy atheist" cringe, which is why you conveniently left the "edgy atheist" part out. This is poisoning the well to an extreme.
“When it comes to people’s safety, money wins… wins out every time,” Gil Scott Heron
that woman is so incredibly brave for grabbing the pastor’s mic. i’m sending her strength.
It makes me wonder how many of these “thoughts and prayers” republicans would be saying that when their grandkids are the ones laying shot dead by some evil bastard
Considering the story of the innocent dude that spent 32 years in prison and to find out he may be going back and he's still praising god...