The Porsche 911 R and GT3 share the same 493bhp output and fine manual gearbox. But which is best? And - ultimately - does it matter? Over to Ollie Marriage…
mike wilson the GT3 Touring is brilliant ... choose lightest weight spec PCCB’s and LWB’s add lithium battery (minus 35 lbs) and side muffler delete (minus 35 lbs) and best modern pure drivers road car !!!!
I agree the crazy premium on 911R isn’t worth it in my opinion. I’d rather take the much cheaper gt3 which revs all the way to 9 compared to the 8.5 of the 911R. I personally prefer the look of the gt3 with the wing but if you don’t like the wing get the touring which is still much cheaper than the 911R
@@RB-xv4si dont propagate lies. No F80 M3 have those very light lithium batteries stock, unless you bought it as a used car and the previous owner changed the battery. Im a previous owner of a F80 M3 and theres no option with lithium batts fr the US and Euro tick boxes.
The grin pasted on his mug while rowing the gears in the gt3 is priceless. Pure, authentic joy and pleasure. Like he said, ' what a way to wake up in the morning.'
All this talk of how nice the 911R shifts gear etc. becomes a bit academic when you know that, as a result of this model price went sky high, the majority of the 911R will just sit in some garages and collect dust...
investment tudor the GT3 Touring is brilliant ... choose lightest weight spec PCCB’s and LWB’s add lithium battery (minus 35 lbs) and side muffler delete (minus 35 lbs) and best modern pure drivers road car !!!!
Guillaume Laplanche the GT3 Touring is brilliant ... choose lightest weight spec PCCB’s and LWB’s add lithium battery (minus 35 lbs) and side muffler delete (minus 35 lbs) and best modern pure drivers road car !!!!
Yes BH. Done exactly that to my first and prob only RS and on the track with those valves open it is virtually a cup car. And I challenge anyone to be able to pick the diff in the sound at full tilt :) Oh and by the way GL, stuff the monies !
Right… hie reason… “because it’s so iconic”…. 😂😂😂 (collectible) That’s not a valid reason if comparing the joy of driving, which his face admitted the GT3 was it.
Darryl Mak the GT3 Touring is brilliant ... choose lightest weight spec PCCB’s and LWB’s add lithium battery (minus 35 lbs) and side muffler delete (minus 35 lbs) and best modern pure drivers road car !!!!
It’s such a shame that any comparisons with a 911 R are shrouded by the fact you can’t buy one, ostensibly. The real world price difference between these two is so huge that comparing one for the other is a moot point, sadly.
Timothy Casey Guillaume Laplanche the GT3 Touring is brilliant ... choose lightest weight spec PCCB’s and LWB’s add lithium battery (minus 35 lbs) and side muffler delete (minus 35 lbs) and best modern pure drivers road car !!!!
If the 911R wasn't so "iconic" & hard to get because of collectors I don't think anyone would claim is better than a GT3 (Touring), but because the R is so hard to get people want it even more. That's how we humans are. We want what we can't get. That's what's happening now to the GT3 Touring as well. Even the reviewer only reason towards the end of choosing the R over the GT3 was because the R is so "iconic" & not because it is a better car. Tells you a lot about how collectors & speculators can create a hype that can drive the price of a car ridiculously high even though it's never been worth that price in the first place
Jin Lim Guillaume Laplanche the GT3 Touring is brilliant ... choose lightest weight spec PCCB’s and LWB’s add lithium battery (minus 35 lbs) and side muffler delete (minus 35 lbs) and best modern pure drivers road car !!!!
The sound footage of the 911R is one of the greatest sounds I've ever heard. At least from the footage you captured, it sounds like the R has a smoother tone to it than the GT3, slightly less rasp.
The 911R is a great car but the GT3 is the car to own. The PDK hands down is the gear box to have. I've had both and PDK is bullet proof and just better. Is it fun to manually shift? Sure but PDK is wonderful!
If it's just a car for having the occasional blast with it on the weekends on nice flowing roads, then definitely the 911 R. If it's fun on the weekends and also occasional track fun then PDK 911 GT3 or GT3 RS. Down the line of time i think the R will be the more special car though and therefor better value.
I prefer the GT3 RS for the track and the 911 turbo s for the road. The Turbo is unbelievable fast, but is more comfortable for road trips, while the 911 GT3 RS just begs you constantly to floor it.
Ya idgaf I want a 911 R lol. The interior is beeeeeautiful and ugh it’s such a timeless car. That is my dream car!!! I have seen so many gt3/rs, gt2s, but never a 911 R. I love old Carreras and I think the R is the perfect split between old and new.
Bong Lim agree, but for 40% cost the GT3 Touring is brilliant ... choose lightest weight spec PCCB’s and LWB’s add lithium battery (minus 35 lbs) and side muffler delete (minus 35 lbs) and best modern pure drivers road car !!!!
Not sure I totally believe you’d take the R and turn down the GT3. Im willing to believe the 911R is the nicest and most compliant to drive on English roads, but when did that have anything to do with it? I own a 427 big block Cobra and it’s a complete absurdity.....which is why I love it 😀
Terry Forth the GT3 Touring is brilliant ... choose lightest weight spec PCCB’s and LWB’s add lithium battery (minus 35 lbs) and side muffler delete (minus 35 lbs) and best modern pure drivers road car !!!!
True. But can you tell the difference? I think that the mid range in the .1 sounds better and the top end in both sounds pretty much the same. My ear can't pick 200rpm. It's over so rapidly.
I don't like either because they are simply too uncomfortable. I'm simply to large of a human being to sit in those seats and not want to kill myself. Edit: I think those huge wings look like shit. Okay, I'm done complaining.
Brian Himmelman I think they feeling the pain after Paying 500k pounds or more for their Rs... Hyping the car is best they can do but word is out.. Manual gt3 touring is the dogs nads and they going to take a 400k bath on the R
Long live the manual transmission.
Save yourself a quarter of a million and take the gt3 its a no brainer!!!
mike wilson brilliant and true
mike wilson the GT3 Touring is brilliant ... choose lightest weight spec PCCB’s and LWB’s add lithium battery (minus 35 lbs) and side muffler delete (minus 35 lbs) and best modern pure drivers road car !!!!
Brian Himmelman how does the GT3 not already come with a lithium battery? Even my F80 M3 comes standard with a lithium battery.
I agree the crazy premium on 911R isn’t worth it in my opinion. I’d rather take the much cheaper gt3 which revs all the way to 9 compared to the 8.5 of the 911R. I personally prefer the look of the gt3 with the wing but if you don’t like the wing get the touring which is still much cheaper than the 911R
@@RB-xv4si dont propagate lies. No F80 M3 have those very light lithium batteries stock, unless you bought it as a used car and the previous owner changed the battery. Im a previous owner of a F80 M3 and theres no option with lithium batts fr the US and Euro tick boxes.
991.2 sounds like a magic
The grin pasted on his mug while rowing the gears in the gt3 is priceless. Pure, authentic joy and pleasure. Like he said, ' what a way to wake up in the morning.'
GT3 sounds so much better and the RS variant is my favorite :)) Beautiful morning and country side!
would take a GT3 touring over a 911R, I just think it looks much nicer
You couldn’t say any better !
It’s lovely to know that Porsche still builds cars like this 🏆👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Yeah 😍
The GT3 Touring gets my vote! Remarkable car.
All this talk of how nice the 911R shifts gear etc. becomes a bit academic when you know that, as a result of this model price went sky high, the majority of the 911R will just sit in some garages and collect dust...
investment tudor the GT3 Touring is brilliant ... choose lightest weight spec PCCB’s and LWB’s add lithium battery (minus 35 lbs) and side muffler delete (minus 35 lbs) and best modern pure drivers road car !!!!
Exactly. The R is/is not a drivers car as it will never be driven except for a few brief moments to do a comparo for U Tube :(
A camera pointed at the road would have made this 10x better of a video...
Shawn Beckman Totally agree
Right. I dont want to look at a bald middle aged guy
@@maurizioarrivabene8182 ok boomer
video's free. film it yourself next time
why would you spend >$300K for a used R when you can get a new GT3 touring for half the monies?
Guillaume Laplanche the GT3 Touring is brilliant ... choose lightest weight spec PCCB’s and LWB’s add lithium battery (minus 35 lbs) and side muffler delete (minus 35 lbs) and best modern pure drivers road car !!!!
Yes BH. Done exactly that to my first and prob only RS and on the track with those valves open it is virtually a cup car. And I challenge anyone to be able to pick the diff in the sound at full tilt :) Oh and by the way GL, stuff the monies !
@@brianhimmelman420 don't make the same response to different comments
Yas Hamdi USA
@@NineHellHeaven shut up
He said he’d take the R over the GT3, yet watching the video he clearly was having more fun in the GT3.
Right… hie reason… “because it’s so iconic”…. 😂😂😂
(collectible)
That’s not a valid reason if comparing the joy of driving, which his face admitted the GT3 was it.
I think there are reasons why you’d choose a PDK over a manual gearbox. If you’d given up on life, for example.
Can we have a comparison between the 911R and GT3 Touring?
Darryl Mak the GT3 Touring is brilliant ... choose lightest weight spec PCCB’s and LWB’s add lithium battery (minus 35 lbs) and side muffler delete (minus 35 lbs) and best modern pure drivers road car !!!!
911R for me, please. Although I think you're 100% correct, the true question is 911R or GT3 Touring?
agree@@brianhimmelman420
Exactly the same differences but slightly less power, torque and induction noise and more nervous at speed (this compared to the gt3 here).
Ugh it's just a spoiler delete
It’s such a shame that any comparisons with a 911 R are shrouded by the fact you can’t buy one, ostensibly. The real world price difference between these two is so huge that comparing one for the other is a moot point, sadly.
the answer is a GT3 touring with a manual box.
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Timothy Casey Guillaume Laplanche the GT3 Touring is brilliant ... choose lightest weight spec PCCB’s and LWB’s add lithium battery (minus 35 lbs) and side muffler delete (minus 35 lbs) and best modern pure drivers road car !!!!
If the 911R wasn't so "iconic" & hard to get because of collectors I don't think anyone would claim is better than a GT3 (Touring), but because the R is so hard to get people want it even more. That's how we humans are. We want what we can't get. That's what's happening now to the GT3 Touring as well. Even the reviewer only reason towards the end of choosing the R over the GT3 was because the R is so "iconic" & not because it is a better car. Tells you a lot about how collectors & speculators can create a hype that can drive the price of a car ridiculously high even though it's never been worth that price in the first place
Beautiful sounds. I also love seeing the headlights on the 911 R swivel when you turn the steering wheel.
Awesome! Reminds me of the days I would wake up early just to go driving.
gt3 touring period. cheaper with 500rpm redline higher at 9000rpm
History will show the Touring as rare car as most will get driven and not collected like R
Jin Lim Guillaume Laplanche the GT3 Touring is brilliant ... choose lightest weight spec PCCB’s and LWB’s add lithium battery (minus 35 lbs) and side muffler delete (minus 35 lbs) and best modern pure drivers road car !!!!
Any Porsche fan on the first minutes of the video, so this is how heaven looks like...
I tptally agree both can "KEEP " ...A SMILE ON OUR FACE...!
Film the road ahead when driving. Straight out the front windshield
The sound footage of the 911R is one of the greatest sounds I've ever heard. At least from the footage you captured, it sounds like the R has a smoother tone to it than the GT3, slightly less rasp.
"Absolutely bananas".... most british thing of all time
I would have asked for the keys to that 959!
GT3 😎👍🏻
The 911R is a great car but the GT3 is the car to own. The PDK hands down is the gear box to have. I've had both and PDK is bullet proof and just better. Is it fun to manually shift? Sure but PDK is wonderful!
Is that a GT1 Evo? Look at the state of it, where was this? I'd have been in 7th heaven.
How abt engines? He didnt compare the attributes of the 2 engines at all...
Alex Ng GT3 engine is epic
If it's just a car for having the occasional blast with it on the weekends on nice flowing roads, then definitely the 911 R.
If it's fun on the weekends and also occasional track fun then PDK 911 GT3 or GT3 RS.
Down the line of time i think the R will be the more special car though and therefor better value.
911 R is no slouch, it’s a really Good!
Suddenly my civic type r seems quite shite lol I’d be happy with either of these two
I prefer the GT3 RS for the track and the 911 turbo s for the road. The Turbo is unbelievable fast, but is more comfortable for road trips, while the 911 GT3 RS just begs you constantly to floor it.
Ya idgaf I want a 911 R lol. The interior is beeeeeautiful and ugh it’s such a timeless car. That is my dream car!!! I have seen so many gt3/rs, gt2s, but never a 911 R. I love old Carreras and I think the R is the perfect split between old and new.
I couldn't have the GT3 because of that bit of fluff stuck in the badge.
Don't worry, you will never have GT3, Honda has your name all over it........
Cheers!
Any 911 Carrera with manual, GT3 with PDK.
Does the 911r have the same length wheelbase as the 991.2 gt3?
Are the GT3 a limited addition ?
Exclusivity & character makes the 911 R shine above all 911 so far
Bong Lim agree, but for 40% cost the GT3 Touring is brilliant ... choose lightest weight spec PCCB’s and LWB’s add lithium battery (minus 35 lbs) and side muffler delete (minus 35 lbs) and best modern pure drivers road car !!!!
lovely review, I like it 👍
Not sure I totally believe you’d take the R and turn down the GT3. Im willing to believe the 911R is the nicest and most compliant to drive on English roads, but when did that have anything to do with it? I own a 427 big block Cobra and it’s a complete absurdity.....which is why I love it 😀
You preferred the R due to the kudos 💁🏿♂️
The GT3 has a way better engine though. I wonder how much the valuation affected his opinion...
Terry Forth the GT3 Touring is brilliant ... choose lightest weight spec PCCB’s and LWB’s add lithium battery (minus 35 lbs) and side muffler delete (minus 35 lbs) and best modern pure drivers road car !!!!
Well Terry your Vauxhall Astra is valued at £500 so how does that effect your opinion
Alan Wayte Do you feel better now? BTW, they don’t sell Vauxhalls where I live…
Excellent video
great review.
Every 911 deserves a [rear seat delete] option!
He isn’t stuck in traffic, of course he would take the manual!! Da!!! I prefer Mr Purple!! Until the 992 is released
Most excellent video 👍
u are not going to get the gt3 or 911r at msrp sticker. Do u still think they are a bargain for the money for 10-20% more?
That might be the case in the usa but in germany ,netherlands or poland you easily get a discount of 3-7% on a brand new gt3.
If only the 911R had had the GT3 engine.
W-James It has the 991.1 RS engine!
Which is not as good as the .2 engine.
W-James you are correct ... 991.2 upgraded
True. But can you tell the difference? I think that the mid range in the .1 sounds better and the top end in both sounds pretty much the same. My ear can't pick 200rpm. It's over so rapidly.
wrong .2 sound better all day long
Damnn you 😭😭😭I just had to press play
the R and the gt3 touring=same thing. Id be pissed if I bought an R at a premium
The 911R cost alot more then a gt3. Even without the inflated after market prices
manual transmission ❤️😍
"lime lemon are".
-subtitles
It’s a question with simple to answer. Would you rather tell people you own the special limited edition 911R or a GT3? Duh.... The 911R
I like this guy
Why would anyone ever need to chose between those two cars? No one will ever be able to buy a 911 R anyway.
Give me the bananas PDK GT3RS please.
Why you driving on left side?
LOL
Where’s Chris Harris?
Terence Neil lost in space
Terence Neil driving his black with gold wheels GT3 Touring ... he said there is no car he would rather drive today
too bad it wasn't compared to the 911 GT3 Touring 🤷♀️
991.2 GT3 Touring all day long
Automatic Transmission
Take the gt3 and change gears at 9000rpms
Great vid and overview..."Yeshua (Jesus Christ) is the way the truth and the life"
Proof?
I don't like either because they are simply too uncomfortable. I'm simply to large of a human being to sit in those seats and not want to kill myself.
Edit: I think those huge wings look like shit. Okay, I'm done complaining.
Any 911 variant with a PDK is a poser's car. Why not get a 964 or, dare I say it, a 993 with a manual.....?
You'd hardly be jealous if you had a 911R since you'd know it's worth about three times as much as a 991.2 GT3! 😏
Not anymore mate...
G Really? Check AutoTrader. There are 4 from £364 to £425k. Seems a lot to me.
No longer the case.. You'd have to be the dimmest plonker to pay that premium money for an R when the manual gt3 is the superior car
Zaheer Kader GT3 manual really has moved the goal posts ... many R owners posting fake comparisons to rationalize “investment”
Brian Himmelman I think they feeling the pain after Paying 500k pounds or more for their Rs... Hyping the car is best they can do but word is out.. Manual gt3 touring is the dogs nads and they going to take a 400k bath on the R
Great cars, bad review
Poor quality video