The Behringer pedals are great for anyone who wants to explore different tonal possibilities. They actually work, I own the Tube Amp Modeller TM300, and the Ultra Metal UM300, my guitars are mid-range, and amps also. And I get awesome tones from those two pedals. The knobs are responsive, you can dial in lots of different frequencies. I recommend the Tube Amp Modeller, basically it gives you sounds of three main types of amps, three mic positions, and three gain settings, plus a great mid range control. The fact that they have plastic housing doesn't really bother me, they are very durable.
I believe it can, but I use it through an amp. But the Tube amp modeler pedal gives you a lot of tone options, a really great pedal. Basically it mimics Tweed, Marshal and Mesa amps. When you combine that with Ultra Metal, you get some really great sounds.@@Wildart2
Well, I put it last, meaning just before the actual amp. That is when I combine it with the Ultra Metal. I lower the gain setting on the Tube Amp Modeler, and then I get the most out of distorted sounds from the Ultra Metal. But I'm no expert, I just mess around, you can try different chain orders. @@ashleyhughes7422
I thought I was done with gear. Then I watched the JHS Pedals Video "What's the deal with Behringer"...I started with 1....then another....Now I have 21 of them...hahaha. They are amazing. Everytime I went to the guitar store for strings or picks, I would see another I had not tried yet for very little money brand new. I would always leave with a new pedal or 2. They sound very good, and not "just for their price." Yes they are plastic. I would not stomp on them with heavy boots, and yes the jacks are soldered to the board. So be careful. So far I have had only one give me any issues. And I got a refund.......I highly recommend the Tube Overdrive, Vintage Delay, Vibrato, Super Fuzz and Digital Reverb (Mod Reverb is awesome)....Anyone of those should convince you how good they can be.
@@MusicAndWood The copy of the TS808???...Yes, I likedmine so much and they were so cheap I bought a second one. I also bought a second Vintage Delay (Boss DM300 copy) and 3 Noise Gates because those always come in handy. Altogether I have 21 of them. I know that is crazy, but they are so damn good and so damn inexpensive I couldn't resist.
@@octtrinittolavg I don't know how Behringer pulled it off but they did...95% of them are bang on or close, some say even better!!!....Of course when it comes to build and durability BOSS wins hands down, and for live use, on the road? BOSS....BUT for the basdement/Studio guy that does not plan traveling alot with them or rowdy live use?....Why not? Amazing stuff....And even if you did break one they would be inexpensive to replace.....There is definately a place for inexpensive pedals and mini pedals right next to your Big Boy $$$ go to pedals....all this means is more collecting...hahaha....It's all Josh's fault.
I have the OD300 and the T808, and they're killer, and the plastic construction is very sturdy, when I compare it to my Boss pedals it's not like it feels super flimsy compared them. Obviously they're not as sturdy, but we're talking 75% less cost. You could buy two of each and have one as a back up if it broke at a gig, and you're still 50% less in price. I'm not saying you necessarily want every Behringer pedal and nothing else, but I'm super happy. One thing I did is bought some nuts to screw on the input/output jacks the way the Boss pedals have...cost me a dollar for a bag of them.
Yes, i agree but oddly enough i have never seen a Behringer pedal with a broken plastic case and i have seen and played on many Behringer guitar pedals, Despite being plastic, it is a very resistant material.
I have pedals of many manufacturers, Boss, Marshall, Electro Harmonics, many other brands, and 10 Behringer ones. Behringers are no second to anyone and the sound palette they provide is simply fantastic. Beside the listening test, I have tested the pedals with signal generators and oscilloscope/spectrum analyser and the result is that the signal and noise performances are well aligned with the other brands. I never had problems with plastic chassis and pots a little bit soft: I don't plan to jump on them nor forcing the knobs. In a nutshell, Behringer is a reputable manufacturer of clone pedals and they allow to test and go for different sounds instead of having to decide which one to buy and which to renounce to.
I have all BOSS pedals, but I wanted a Tube Screamer. My friend recommended the Behringer Vintage Tube overdrive TO800. Sweetwater had them in stock, so I grabbed one. Not disappointed! It’s a great pedal! And I didn’t have to spend a lot on the Ibanez one. Cool video man. Very informative.
I saw some other comments about the Super Fuzz (SF300) so I won't ramble too much; long story short, it's now become Sweetwater's most sold pedal (lol). Also great video thanks for makin it; I think you've sold me on the overdrive distortion one!
Thanks for the watch and comment! I already have so many fuzz pedals so I decided to not pick up the super fuzz. Rethinking that decision now, might pick one up soon.
@@MusicAndWood I love my SF300 pedal. FF tones, muff tones and if you slide the switch in the middle, you get both simultaneously. Gets really spitty, but also smooth.
Thank you very much for the video. I have more or less 15 behringer pedal that i bought since 20 years ago till today. In this list I would also add the tube amp modeler Tm300 and the super fuzz Sf300. Anyway, for the quality/price ratio, in my opinion 80% of Behringer pedals work really well, considering that they are made of plastic. Greetings from Italy
I recently ordered the octaver, fuzz and chorus. I have the fuzz and chorus and they sound great(also my first pedals other than my used Cry baby wah) and the octaver is on the way
Very Cool Demo/Review Thankyou. I have a Behringer Pedal Board as my Everyday Use at home Board, and love it. Have CS400,PB100,SE200,OD100,HM300,FX100 and VD400. All the Pedals have a great range of useful sounds and are alot of fun for very little money.
Good video. I was a skeptic then bought the Vintage Tube Overdrive pedal. It's very good. Like it so much I bought another Behringer pedal shortly after, the Tube Amp Modeler pedal. Both have great sound quality.
@@davelanciani-dimaensionx Next one I'm getting is the Super Fuzz. I have a well know brand fuzz pedal, bought it used mint in the og box and was 3 times the cost of the Behringer. Judging from demos it sounds dif from mine and I like the sounds of the Behringer ✌
They're good. Also, while there are some people who claim Behringers fall apart and that they aren't made well, this has not been my experience. I've had their digital reverb and vintage distortion pedals for ages and both are in perfect working order.
Yes dirt cheap pedals for low budget (basement hideout) player! I have the vintage delay and not overly thrilled but their graphic equalizer is invaluable! I’d love additional demos of other budget pedals: Danelectro FAB, and any of the cheap import clones. Thanks.
I have many cheapo clones and the only ones I have given away are the Dano FAB pedals. I know others have gotten sounds from them they liked but I just couldn’t warm up to them.
I have kept the CS400 compressor pedal which is very good. Other Behringer pedals I have had suffered from flaky controls and what you might call 'No bypass' since the controls still affect the sound even when the pedal is switched off!
@@programxxx It was the Reverb Machine, it could be a great sounding pedal but it was just very unpredictable, I didn't try another as they are hard to find now. If they remade them I might buy one again.
I started my trip down the pedal rabbit hole with a ZOOM G1 Four multi effects pedal, to get a taste for what all the effects do to my sound. It can digitally reproduce some pretty popular pedals like RAT, BOSS and Echoplex, etc. It has tonnes of Amp and Cab sims too - Now I've started buying 'real pedals' something I want to do is make a board like this one, all Behringer. My favourite pedal I own so far is my Skysurfer Reverb Mini by TC Electronics :)
I went broke but still gotta gig. Bought a bunch if berhinger stuff after seeing the GHS reviews. I am using them now until I can upgrade again. They work great. Most will fail a blind test against boss pedals. Try it. I just don't jump on them.
I'm sitting here opening up my latest 3 additions to my Behringer pedal collection that I love so much. I own around 30 of them now. I already had the CS400 compressor but I ordered the CL9 compressor because it has such an amazing sound and it's getting delivered today so I'm super excited. There are charts floating around that show what each Behringer pedal is most likely based on. The CL9 is based on an Ibanez CP9 from the 80s. The plastic cases don't bother me one bit. I'm a bedroom player and they hold up great. I own the Behringer pedalboard that holds 12 pedals but I still am waiting on an isolated power supply that has 12 9v outputs. Nobody seems to make one. There are so many great affordable pedal lines in 2023 so people can get really cool clones for cheap and some are in metal housings with cool graphics and true bypass for dirt cheap.
the results also depend a lot on who is actually playing the guitar. But there is no difference between the TO800 and an Ibanez Vintage Ts808 for example, the Superfuzz is also very very good, same goes for some others, but the 7 Band EQ clone is far more noisy than the Boss pedal, the noise gate is garbage, and so on. Some Behringers are supercool, some not.
The noise gate is indeed garbage. I am not a fan of the Super Fuzz but have warmed to the TO800. I found a second-hand OD400 much to my surprised and delight. Using it as a dirty boost and am very happy. My current board has 4 Behringers on it: CL9; OD400; TO800; UM300 and until recently also had the DR600.
I finally got a SuperFuzz today after it being out of stock for a year...my univox DIY kit didn't work correctly no matter how I troubleshot it. I've only run it with humbuckers for about a half an hour. Mode 1 is pretty bad with diMarzio PAFs, far too mids-y. Mode 2 is cool for rhythm 'In between' is some of both in a parallel mix, and should be it's own detent instead of the useless boost. It's got some mojo for a part here or there, if heavy-handed. And that's the general impression I get - it's simply too heavy-handed. The gain is set stupid high from the op-amp going into the diodes, and bias seems slammed for as much sustain as it can muster - so there's little variance in the gain range, nor touch sensitivity as in a better fuzz that has more musical applications. This one is for those seeking a quick, messy fix of fuzz madness and not much more.
As far as reliability goes in my experience Behringer products hold up just fine… I have Behringer PA and mixer, and their vintage delay pedal as well as a Bugera amp, I’m not a gigging musician but I have a little studio in my home where I play 10 to 12 hours every week.. been using this equipment for 3 years.. so about 1500 hours of playing time, and no issues.
I have a fix for theweird noise issue with the Chorus and Vibrato pedals (UC200 and UV300). I found that it went away if I just swapped their position in my chain. E.g. I have my Vibrato going into my Chorus pedal and it eliminates that noise.
I really liked the part you describe the pre-amp boost... like ... How many times do I just raise the volume somewhere else... and try to deal with the noise... havibeendoinitwrong? And Im really just waiting for the part where all the effects are turned on but I think Im dreaming LOL
I like your playing, you don’t make me gag with post eddie van halen guitar shop blues. I can’t even hear the sound of the pedal with some people over the sound of their terrible note barf
Top top review of what sound like decent budget pedals . I bought the overdrive distortion pedal due to this vid. Look great as a set too. The only thing with them is I'd consider them hand pedals as I the video. I wouldn't really want to stomp on them too much. A friend of mine has the green wink wink one, ITS copy. I prefer the overdrive distortion OD 300 for my playing its very usable..
They seem good. I have the Chorus, tuner and compressor in my home studio pedal board. The big question is how robust that are when used on the road being plastic construction.
the best behringer pedal i had was the ultra shifter harmonist. It's digitech equivalent cost was around five times for the same end product. ultra chorus was ok, accoustic modeler was ok, noise gate was ok for its price. but the ultra metal was AWFUL. at the same time i had several other cheap metal pedals (metal zone, digitech df7, dod death metal, mxr d+) and the difference was abysmal. the pedal aims to the high gain range but it doesn't deliver
I’ve had a behringer board also and I have that same kinda problem that the chorus that it makes a weird sound even when not on. But if I turn on a digital reverb after it the pulsing sound goes away. Really bummed about it. What do you think is is about the pedal order or just crappy pedal? Very nice video!
I really wanted to see a demo of all the distortion pedals and I don't think the right guitar was used. I feel like double humbuckers would have been better to show off the different distortion pedals. I'd like to try one, but I can't find a great video that compares them all at once.
Technically, shouldn't the tremolo go along with the gain pedals, before the amp? As explained it modulates volume. At the very least, it should be the first pedal in the effects loop.
Hey thanks for watch and comment! There is a kind of “best practice” for types of pedals and their ordering however, some pedals behave differently than other and you may find a sound you like using a non standard order. The general rule of thumb for pedals would be guitar -> fuzz( always first ) -> compressors -> gain pedals (overdrive then distortion) -> (you could insert the preamp here and use the effects loop for the rest of the pedals) -> modulations ( Chorus , tremolo, vibrato) -> time pedals ( delays and loopers) last is reverb
Forgot to mention the wah and volume pedal. Volume pedal is good in a couple spots, it depends on the effect you want. When you want to actually just control volume of your overall chain it should be last or after the gains at least. When you want to to change the signal going into a gain pedal it should go before the gain pedals, doing this you will get less distortion then the volume is down and more distorting when the volume is high. A wah I generally use as the first or second pedal in my chain coming from the guitar. Again it is a sound thing do you want to add wah to the whole signal chain or just your dry guitar. I generally like to use wah up from straight from dry guitar and into the gain pedals.
The Budget Pedal market is in full full swing, you can find a lot of gems out there, Iset has a Dumbler and their Flange pedal that are really good and in the $20 range, you also have Joyo which can range from $25-60 for their stuff, and Caline/Gokko Its weird how you have this extensive resurgence of decent cheap pedals and a bunch of under $100 pedals that are actually good especially for the starting player, its weird with the current market of these boutique vintage pedals like a Klon going for ridiculous amounts of money. It actually hit at a great time because of 2 years of COVID Guitars sold well and brought an influx of players, more players, but less product could have gone more disastrous for the industry as a whole. I always say to new players though, the pedals that are just legendary are legendary for a reason, you can buy budget pedals and they are fine, but read and watch reviews to see what you are getting ahead of time, its better in some instances to just buy the MXR Phaser 95 mini, Ibanez Tube Screamer Mini and others that are the pinnacle for around the $100 mark instead of just getting something that misses the mark, sure in this case $20-50 isn't much and it will get you by till later, don't even look at vintage unless you can get it for a steal or the reissues are reasonable in price. A Klon has many many good clones and even JHS has had a Clone shootout to the point its so close only a vintage owner can tell the difference of the nuance.
There are for sure a good number of budget friendly pedals out now, I might try to make some more videos comparing them. In-terms of budget vs known brand, even the later models of pedals are certainly going to sound a bit different than their vintage counterparts. Also, taking multiple samples of the same pedal from the same manufacture you will get small inconsistencies because of the discrete components tolerances.
@@MusicAndWood yes absolutely you hit the mark with that, you will always have differences regardless. I will add though I know it's not a lot of players "bag" so to speak but keep in mind there is nothing analog that cannot be reproduced digitally, so that does add another layer. Or options for those willing to wade the waters.
They sound o.k. For the price, they are pretty good. But, I don't like the way the battery has to be put in. This little pins on the side are annoying.
A Behringer vintage Time Machine. Basically a memory man clone. Pretty decent build quality metal enclosure and sounds great. I mention it because you enjoy the vintage delay.
Question as newbie: Wouldnt common sense dictate that the Noise Gate is very LAST in the chain? and wouldnt you want the signal coming OUT of the amp as clean as possible BEFORE hitting the distortion pedals (before the speaker??) Just curious. I had EVERYTHING in the effects loop before I saw this video, and then put EQ, compressor/sustainer, Synth, and Ultra Octaver BEFORE amp then everything else in the loop.
Hello! Depends on how you want to use your noise gate. There are many ways and reasons to use a NG certain ways. Here is a page that goes in detail. rolandcorp.com.au/blog/how-to-use-boss-ns-2-noise-suppressor-in-your-rig For how to use the effects loop, in general put these types of pedals in front of your preamp (guitar in) fuzzes, compressors , drives, boosts, tuners, wah , volume pedal, pitch shifters and put modulations effect (delays, chorus, vibe, tremolos, phasers, reverb) in the effect loop after the preamp. The main reason for this is so your guitar tone clean or distorted will go through the modulations. If you put modulation effects in front of drives they will change the behavior of the gain stage. This is not an unheard of way of using modulations and drives though. Many older amps did not have effect loops so lots of older records have delays in front of the pre amp. All that goes to say is these are suggestions for a starting point but, experiment and find the sound you want. If you have a fuzz or vintage style circuit fuzz it pretty much must be the very first pedal or it will not sound good. Right now I am mainly jamming with a couple drive pedals going into a chorus then delay and sending that right in to the “clean” side of a hot rod deluxe. Turning up to around 3 is plenty loud and lets most of the distortion come from the pedals with just a bit of extra distortion coloring from the pre amp gain stage.
Sometimes people bring dead Behringers to my buddy who is the local amp guru. Once they find out they could buy 4+ new ones for what he’d charge to fix one they often abandon them and he gives them to me to disembowel for parts. I haven’t got to that yet so I just have a pile of dead pedals taking up space. Have to think their QC is non-existent. The vintage tube screamer is pretty good though and I used one daily for over a year with no problems.
hey nice video dude, i have two of these pedals the vintage overdrive along with vintage delay and i tried powering individual pedals with their own 9v power adapter but there seems to be a problem only one of the pedal seems to be working and the one just don't work, as you used multiple pedals wanted to know if i'm doing something wrong, kindly help if possible.
Thanks ! I used an isolated power supply. Here is an affiliate link for the one I was using amzn.to/3Y4O6t7 though if one of your pedals is not working there might be an issue. You should try with a battery too. Get a small screwdriver and press the black hinge pins in to release the cover there is a battery compartment under there.
You put so much work into this and then ran it through a $99 Behringer nonreactive load box that makes it all sound like mud. I'd love to see you do this again and Mic it up.
Thanks for the watch and comment! The load box was actually reactive because I had a pair of Celestion vintage 30 speakers connected to the attenuator as the load. The load box will only be resistive when no speaker is used with it.
You did not record the speakers you said you used them as a monitor in the video. I have owned this Power Attenuator for years, they don't sound very good compared to the others I own. My comment had to do with all the time you put into making that awesome peddle board and then purchasing all the pedals. To me that was such a large amount of work to go to for the sound quality that was used. All I really hear in this whole video is mud which is why I made the comment, my intent was never to be rude. I watched the video in my studio and monitored the recording through a pair of Genelec 8350s. When you came to the TM300 Tube Amp Modeler it wasn't at all an accurate image of what that modeler sounds like. In fact all of the pedals sort of sounded like the same muddy tone I have been commenting on. This is why I would love to see you do this again mic'd up through one of those Vintage 30's. That would be pretty epic.
Well thanks for listening on a nice pair of speakers and the input ! Sounded pretty decent as a demo video to me but I do always like to get better tones so I may do a comparison video with the PS1 emulator vs mic’d speaker with some more pedals to test it out.
@@dinofond I agree. This video was useless to me. It all sounds like it's coming through a layer of mud. Honestly, if this vid was all I had to go by, I would never even consider buying a Behringer pedal.
@@dogslobbergardens6606 The TM300 Tube Amp Modeler is pretty cool. It reminds me or the old school working mans Tech 21 SansAmp guitar Amp Emulator without the Fender amp. I appreciate the time MusicandWood took to make the video for sure.
I've owned I think 5 different Behringer pedals and hated all of them except the Vintage Tube Monster, which had a preamp tube in it. The cheap plastic ones sounded bad to me in person.
You're missing the best one: SUPER FUZZ! I've built a smaller pedalboard with mostly Behringer pedals and quite honestly, it allows me to produce really solid guitar output. The Super Fuzz is my favourite of the lot though.
@@MusicAndWood It is truly a great pedal. Though probs not worth getting if you have the Boss that it clones. I've got the Overdrive Distortion and Vintage Tube Overdrive ones too, but honestly...between the Super Fuzz and the Vintage Tube, I rarely even use the regular purple Overdrive Distortion anymore because Super Fuzz does distortion waaay better, and Vintage Tube does Overdrive in a much punchier way. Honestly considering getting rid of the purple pedal now because of this. The Behringer range certainly gives us a lot of distortion and overdrive options to play around with. I haven't tried the Ultra Metal or Heavy Distortion pedals out myself, but maybe one of those would better suit me.
@@MusicAndWood If you want to hear how the Super Fuzz sounds, just check out the video/track on my channel called 'Ambulance'. I used it on the rhythm guitar throughout that track. Also on the track 'Roll Credits' too. I love how toasty it sounds, bordering on sounding electronic. Pretty badass IMO! Reminds me of Ty Segall or some other crazy garage punk. Ambulance is in drop D on my Strat, and Roll Credits is in D standard on my SG. Should give you a couple of different ideas of how the pedal sounds.
I’ve got only only one Behringer pedal whatsoever, and I guess I like their wah-wah, in spite of it being constructed with cheap plastic that feels like stepping on dog-shit, cause it sounds better than any of my crybabies or whatever. I kind of just want to shove the circuit in a metal housing so the pedal will feel as solid as it sounds under my foot. 😅
Dirty signal chain, dirty pedals. These are great if you just wanna experiment for the first time with an effect that you’re not very sure of or used to, but as for permanent petals on a board if you’re a serious musician that plays gigs more than three times a week I don’t recommend these types of pedals, grounding issues, bad soldering connections, and cheap components suck tone using a lot of these pedals or even just one in the wrong way gives you a similar sound of having a bad cord saps sound
I can't tell whether you look more like Jim Carrey than Keanu Reeves or more like Keanu Reeves than Jim Carrey. Anyway, I can tell that Jim Reeves's videos are as good as Keanu Carrey's ones, that's for sure
Thanks for the watch! I would suggest to start with the tone knobs all at 50% and gain 50% on both pedals. Then adjust level so they are close, now adjust gain for the max distortion you want on each. Readjust the levels to match in volume. After that you can tweak the eq on the pedals and you may need to then do a final level adjustment.
The Behringer pedals are great for anyone who wants to explore different tonal possibilities. They actually work, I own the Tube Amp Modeller TM300, and the Ultra Metal UM300, my guitars are mid-range, and amps also. And I get awesome tones from those two pedals. The knobs are responsive, you can dial in lots of different frequencies. I recommend the Tube Amp Modeller, basically it gives you sounds of three main types of amps, three mic positions, and three gain settings, plus a great mid range control. The fact that they have plastic housing doesn't really bother me, they are very durable.
I put the vintage delay through the ultra metal, sounds amazing. Plus a flanger through ultra metal is incredible.
Do you have to play it through an amp or can it go directly to the speaker cab like the new Amp modelers can?
I believe it can, but I use it through an amp. But the Tube amp modeler pedal gives you a lot of tone options, a really great pedal. Basically it mimics Tweed, Marshal and Mesa amps. When you combine that with Ultra Metal, you get some really great sounds.@@Wildart2
I have the tube amp modeller, great pedal. Where would you put it in the chain order?
Well, I put it last, meaning just before the actual amp. That is when I combine it with the Ultra Metal. I lower the gain setting on the Tube Amp Modeler, and then I get the most out of distorted sounds from the Ultra Metal. But I'm no expert, I just mess around, you can try different chain orders. @@ashleyhughes7422
I thought I was done with gear. Then I watched the JHS Pedals Video "What's the deal with Behringer"...I started with 1....then another....Now I have 21 of them...hahaha. They are amazing. Everytime I went to the guitar store for strings or picks, I would see another I had not tried yet for very little money brand new. I would always leave with a new pedal or 2. They sound very good, and not "just for their price." Yes they are plastic. I would not stomp on them with heavy boots, and yes the jacks are soldered to the board. So be careful. So far I have had only one give me any issues. And I got a refund.......I highly recommend the Tube Overdrive, Vintage Delay, Vibrato, Super Fuzz and Digital Reverb (Mod Reverb is awesome)....Anyone of those should convince you how good they can be.
I like the tube overdrive pedal for sure !
@@MusicAndWood The copy of the TS808???...Yes, I likedmine so much and they were so cheap I bought a second one. I also bought a second Vintage Delay (Boss DM300 copy) and 3 Noise Gates because those always come in handy. Altogether I have 21 of them. I know that is crazy, but they are so damn good and so damn inexpensive I couldn't resist.
For us PoFolks try strait amp n petals.Thanks Bro.
And compressor too - it's not any worse than Boss CS3, they are equal.
@@octtrinittolavg I don't know how Behringer pulled it off but they did...95% of them are bang on or close, some say even better!!!....Of course when it comes to build and durability BOSS wins hands down, and for live use, on the road? BOSS....BUT for the basdement/Studio guy that does not plan traveling alot with them or rowdy live use?....Why not? Amazing stuff....And even if you did break one they would be inexpensive to replace.....There is definately a place for inexpensive pedals and mini pedals right next to your Big Boy $$$ go to pedals....all this means is more collecting...hahaha....It's all Josh's fault.
Thank you so much, Wes Borland Jr. This video was very instructive. Much appreciated 🤘
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Fantastic video, this is exactly the kind of vid I've been looking for.
Hey, thanks for the watch and comment ! Glad it was helpful!
I have the OD300 and the T808, and they're killer, and the plastic construction is very sturdy, when I compare it to my Boss pedals it's not like it feels super flimsy compared them. Obviously they're not as sturdy, but we're talking 75% less cost. You could buy two of each and have one as a back up if it broke at a gig, and you're still 50% less in price. I'm not saying you necessarily want every Behringer pedal and nothing else, but I'm super happy. One thing I did is bought some nuts to screw on the input/output jacks the way the Boss pedals have...cost me a dollar for a bag of them.
Thanks for the watch and comment, great suggestion with the nuts on the jacks. Some of the pedals sure do sound pretty good.
Yes, i agree but oddly enough i have never seen a Behringer pedal with a broken plastic case and i have seen and played on many Behringer guitar pedals, Despite being plastic, it is a very resistant material.
I have pedals of many manufacturers, Boss, Marshall, Electro Harmonics, many other brands, and 10 Behringer ones. Behringers are no second to anyone and the sound palette they provide is simply fantastic. Beside the listening test, I have tested the pedals with signal generators and oscilloscope/spectrum analyser and the result is that the signal and noise performances are well aligned with the other brands. I never had problems with plastic chassis and pots a little bit soft: I don't plan to jump on them nor forcing the knobs. In a nutshell, Behringer is a reputable manufacturer of clone pedals and they allow to test and go for different sounds instead of having to decide which one to buy and which to renounce to.
I have all BOSS pedals, but I wanted a Tube Screamer. My friend recommended the Behringer Vintage Tube overdrive TO800. Sweetwater had them in stock, so I grabbed one. Not disappointed! It’s a great pedal! And I didn’t have to spend a lot on the Ibanez one. Cool video man. Very informative.
I saw some other comments about the Super Fuzz (SF300) so I won't ramble too much; long story short, it's now become Sweetwater's most sold pedal (lol).
Also great video thanks for makin it; I think you've sold me on the overdrive distortion one!
Thanks for the watch and comment! I already have so many fuzz pedals so I decided to not pick up the super fuzz. Rethinking that decision now, might pick one up soon.
@@MusicAndWood I love my SF300 pedal. FF tones, muff tones and if you slide the switch in the middle, you get both simultaneously. Gets really spitty, but also smooth.
They are like a good potato chip, you can't have just one, once you try a behringer pedal it's satisfying and you want another
Lol, cool way of putting it bud.
@cat and biscuit Nah you aint because you heard of marketing before
Thanks for this video man, been thinking of trying out Behringer pedals! thumbs up!
Thanks for the watch and comment! Some of them are pretty nice sounding indeed.
Thank you very much for the video. I have more or less 15 behringer pedal that i bought since 20 years ago till today. In this list I would also add the tube amp modeler Tm300 and the super fuzz Sf300. Anyway, for the quality/price ratio, in my opinion 80% of Behringer pedals work really well, considering that they are made of plastic. Greetings from Italy
I recently ordered the octaver, fuzz and chorus. I have the fuzz and chorus and they sound great(also my first pedals other than my used Cry baby wah) and the octaver is on the way
Very nice! Building out your soundscape for sure!
What an amazing demo! Very helpful and such a talented player!
Thanks a lot !
I got 3, no complaints. Also is good to point out that TC is from the same family, so in that case I got 4 more
Very Cool Demo/Review Thankyou. I have a Behringer Pedal Board as my Everyday Use at home Board, and love it. Have CS400,PB100,SE200,OD100,HM300,FX100 and VD400. All the Pedals have a great range of useful sounds and are alot of fun for very little money.
Thanks for the watch and comment! Very cool! The pedals certainly do sound pretty good! That is a nice list of pedals there too.
19:25 - Sultans of Swing style Knopfler riff.
Thanks for noticing !
Good video. I was a skeptic then bought the Vintage Tube Overdrive pedal. It's very good. Like it so much I bought another Behringer pedal shortly after, the Tube Amp Modeler pedal. Both have great sound quality.
The tube overdrive pedal is a great one indeed !
Yes, the TM300 is a surprisingly good "clone" of the Sansamp GT2.
@@davelanciani-dimaensionx Next one I'm getting is the Super Fuzz. I have a well know brand fuzz pedal, bought it used mint in the og box and was 3 times the cost of the Behringer. Judging from demos it sounds dif from mine and I like the sounds of the Behringer ✌
They're good. Also, while there are some people who claim Behringers fall apart and that they aren't made well, this has not been my experience. I've had their digital reverb and vintage distortion pedals for ages and both are in perfect working order.
Yes dirt cheap pedals for low budget (basement hideout) player! I have the vintage delay and not overly thrilled but their graphic equalizer is invaluable! I’d love additional demos of other budget pedals: Danelectro FAB, and any of the cheap import clones. Thanks.
Thanks for the comment and suggestion! I will pick more up and try them out.
I have many cheapo clones and the only ones I have given away are the Dano FAB pedals. I know others have gotten sounds from them they liked but I just couldn’t warm up to them.
I had a Behringer acoustic simulator that was really good. I like the compressor also.
I have kept the CS400 compressor pedal which is very good. Other Behringer pedals I have had suffered from flaky controls and what you might call 'No bypass' since the controls still affect the sound even when the pedal is switched off!
That’s for the Comment and watch! The CS400 does do a pretty good job.
@@programxxx It was the Reverb Machine, it could be a great sounding pedal but it was just very unpredictable, I didn't try another as they are hard to find now. If they remade them I might buy one again.
I started my trip down the pedal rabbit hole with a ZOOM G1 Four multi effects pedal, to get a taste for what all the effects do to my sound. It can digitally reproduce some pretty popular pedals like RAT, BOSS and Echoplex, etc. It has tonnes of Amp and Cab sims too - Now I've started buying 'real pedals' something I want to do is make a board like this one, all Behringer.
My favourite pedal I own so far is my Skysurfer Reverb Mini by TC Electronics :)
Great video. Thanks for sharing.
You’re welcome and thank you for the watch and comment! I really appreciate it!
I use the Vintage OD in front of a Fender Supersonic just as the amp begins breaking up and it really opens up the sound.
If anything I'm definitely sold on that Hot Rod Deluxe for sure!
The HRD is a nice amp indeed! Thanks for the watch and comment!
I have the CS400 compressor, the UC200 Chorus and the EQ700 equalizer; They're all good especially the chorus
Do you maybe know is the chorus better than Joyo's one?
@@octtrinittolavg sorry I haven't tried the Joyo one..
Thanks for the informative video!
I went broke but still gotta gig. Bought a bunch if berhinger stuff after seeing the GHS reviews. I am using them now until I can upgrade again. They work great. Most will fail a blind test against boss pedals. Try it.
I just don't jump on them.
I might make a video testing out how strong a behringer is and how much abuse it can take before giving up.
@@MusicAndWood that would be interesting. I don't think anyone else has done that.
You’re so underrated man!
Thanks!
Great stuff !!
Thanks !
I'm sitting here opening up my latest 3 additions to my Behringer pedal collection that I love so much. I own around 30 of them now. I already had the CS400 compressor but I ordered the CL9 compressor because it has such an amazing sound and it's getting delivered today so I'm super excited. There are charts floating around that show what each Behringer pedal is most likely based on. The CL9 is based on an Ibanez CP9 from the 80s. The plastic cases don't bother me one bit. I'm a bedroom player and they hold up great. I own the Behringer pedalboard that holds 12 pedals but I still am waiting on an isolated power supply that has 12 9v outputs. Nobody seems to make one. There are so many great affordable pedal lines in 2023 so people can get really cool clones for cheap and some are in metal housings with cool graphics and true bypass for dirt cheap.
the results also depend a lot on who is actually playing the guitar. But there is no difference between the TO800 and an Ibanez Vintage Ts808 for example, the Superfuzz is also very very good, same goes for some others, but the 7 Band EQ clone is far more noisy than the Boss pedal, the noise gate is garbage, and so on. Some Behringers are supercool, some not.
Agreed I did get tone suck and hiss with some of their pedals others have been great
The noise gate is indeed garbage. I am not a fan of the Super Fuzz but have warmed to the TO800. I found a second-hand OD400 much to my surprised and delight. Using it as a dirty boost and am very happy.
My current board has 4 Behringers on it: CL9; OD400; TO800; UM300 and until recently also had the DR600.
I agree
I finally got a SuperFuzz today after it being out of stock for a year...my univox DIY kit didn't work correctly no matter how I troubleshot it.
I've only run it with humbuckers for about a half an hour. Mode 1 is pretty bad with diMarzio PAFs, far too mids-y. Mode 2 is cool for rhythm 'In between' is some of both in a parallel mix, and should be it's own detent instead of the useless boost. It's got some mojo for a part here or there, if heavy-handed. And that's the general impression I get - it's simply too heavy-handed. The gain is set stupid high from the op-amp going into the diodes, and bias seems slammed for as much sustain as it can muster - so there's little variance in the gain range, nor touch sensitivity as in a better fuzz that has more musical applications. This one is for those seeking a quick, messy fix of fuzz madness and not much more.
Surprised to not see the Super Fuzz...the cream of the crop for that Behringer line.
Thanks for the watch and comment! I might need to pick one up.
As far as reliability goes in my experience Behringer products hold up just fine… I have Behringer PA and mixer, and their vintage delay pedal as well as a Bugera amp, I’m not a gigging musician but I have a little studio in my home where I play 10 to 12 hours every week.. been using this equipment for 3 years.. so about 1500 hours of playing time, and no issues.
Awesome!
I have a fix for theweird noise issue with the Chorus and Vibrato pedals (UC200 and UV300). I found that it went away if I just swapped their position in my chain. E.g. I have my Vibrato going into my Chorus pedal and it eliminates that noise.
Thanks for this
Very welcome!
AND THE ULTRA CHORUS or DIGITAL REVERB can also be used as a A/B splitter because they have A/B outs that work in bypass mode. YEAH BABY.
That is a great trick!
Love the UM300. Quick metal tone for a few bucks.
I really liked the part you describe the pre-amp boost... like ... How many times do I just raise the volume somewhere else... and try to deal with the noise... havibeendoinitwrong? And Im really just waiting for the part where all the effects are turned on but I think Im dreaming LOL
I have the Reverb Machine. Love it and is on my board.
I got a Behringer FX rack and a couple of pedals…… I love my Behringer rack
Genuinely good video, nice job.
Very comprehensive.
I like your playing, you don’t make me gag with post eddie van halen guitar shop blues. I can’t even hear the sound of the pedal with some people over the sound of their terrible note barf
Hey thanks for the watch and comment! Glad you enjoyed the video! I know what you mean. It is not about how fast you play, it is about what you play.
The andertons guys are specially guilty of this
Top top review of what sound like decent budget pedals . I bought the overdrive distortion pedal due to this vid. Look great as a set too. The only thing with them is I'd consider them hand pedals as I the video. I wouldn't really want to stomp on them too much. A friend of mine has the green wink wink one, ITS copy. I prefer the overdrive distortion OD 300 for my playing its very usable..
That is great! They should hold up pretty well to being pressed on with a foot. I just would not jump of an amp box and land on them to engage 🤣
What’s the difference between Behringer’s UM300, HM300, XD300, and HD300?
They seem good. I have the Chorus, tuner and compressor in my home studio pedal board. The big question is how robust that are when used on the road being plastic construction.
They are not incredibly fragile. I gigged out with the preamp booster for years and it never let me down.
@@MusicAndWood yeah, it’s really like hard plastic so fine.
found Dan from LTT's long lost twin! cool video. If it works, it's good
the best behringer pedal i had was the ultra shifter harmonist. It's digitech equivalent cost was around five times for the same end product. ultra chorus was ok, accoustic modeler was ok, noise gate was ok for its price. but the ultra metal was AWFUL. at the same time i had several other cheap metal pedals (metal zone, digitech df7, dod death metal, mxr d+) and the difference was abysmal. the pedal aims to the high gain range but it doesn't deliver
I’ve had a behringer board also and I have that same kinda problem that the chorus that it makes a weird sound even when not on. But if I turn on a digital reverb after it the pulsing sound goes away. Really bummed about it. What do you think is is about the pedal order or just crappy pedal?
Very nice video!
Not sure about what makes the pedal act oddly. Would take some more digging for sure.
Try to test it with a 9 volt battery . There are sometimes noises from the power .
I really wanted to see a demo of all the distortion pedals and I don't think the right guitar was used. I feel like double humbuckers would have been better to show off the different distortion pedals. I'd like to try one, but I can't find a great video that compares them all at once.
Which do you think is better? The CL9 or the CS400?
Behringer pedals, most of them anyway, sound pretty damn good to me
They do mostly sound pretty good with just a few hiccups here and there on certain pedals.
Technically, shouldn't the tremolo go along with the gain pedals, before the amp? As explained it modulates volume. At the very least, it should be the first pedal in the effects loop.
Hey thanks for watch and comment! There is a kind of “best practice” for types of pedals and their ordering however, some pedals behave differently than other and you may find a sound you like using a non standard order. The general rule of thumb for pedals would be guitar -> fuzz( always first ) -> compressors -> gain pedals (overdrive then distortion) -> (you could insert the preamp here and use the effects loop for the rest of the pedals) -> modulations ( Chorus , tremolo, vibrato) -> time pedals ( delays and loopers) last is reverb
Forgot to mention the wah and volume pedal. Volume pedal is good in a couple spots, it depends on the effect you want. When you want to actually just control volume of your overall chain it should be last or after the gains at least. When you want to to change the signal going into a gain pedal it should go before the gain pedals, doing this you will get less distortion then the volume is down and more distorting when the volume is high. A wah I generally use as the first or second pedal in my chain coming from the guitar. Again it is a sound thing do you want to add wah to the whole signal chain or just your dry guitar. I generally like to use wah up from straight from dry guitar and into the gain pedals.
The Budget Pedal market is in full full swing, you can find a lot of gems out there, Iset has a Dumbler and their Flange pedal that are really good and in the $20 range, you also have Joyo which can range from $25-60 for their stuff, and Caline/Gokko Its weird how you have this extensive resurgence of decent cheap pedals and a bunch of under $100 pedals that are actually good especially for the starting player, its weird with the current market of these boutique vintage pedals like a Klon going for ridiculous amounts of money.
It actually hit at a great time because of 2 years of COVID Guitars sold well and brought an influx of players, more players, but less product could have gone more disastrous for the industry as a whole.
I always say to new players though, the pedals that are just legendary are legendary for a reason, you can buy budget pedals and they are fine, but read and watch reviews to see what you are getting ahead of time, its better in some instances to just buy the MXR Phaser 95 mini, Ibanez Tube Screamer Mini and others that are the pinnacle for around the $100 mark instead of just getting something that misses the mark, sure in this case $20-50 isn't much and it will get you by till later, don't even look at vintage unless you can get it for a steal or the reissues are reasonable in price. A Klon has many many good clones and even JHS has had a Clone shootout to the point its so close only a vintage owner can tell the difference of the nuance.
There are for sure a good number of budget friendly pedals out now, I might try to make some more videos comparing them. In-terms of budget vs known brand, even the later models of pedals are certainly going to sound a bit different than their vintage counterparts. Also, taking multiple samples of the same pedal from the same manufacture you will get small inconsistencies because of the discrete components tolerances.
@@MusicAndWood yes absolutely you hit the mark with that, you will always have differences regardless.
I will add though I know it's not a lot of players "bag" so to speak but keep in mind there is nothing analog that cannot be reproduced digitally, so that does add another layer. Or options for those willing to wade the waters.
How's the bypass? Will it destroy my clean tone?
They sound o.k. For the price, they are pretty good. But, I don't like the way the battery has to be put in. This little pins on the side are annoying.
that trem and the eq are great for price. also superfuzz hard to pass up.
The problem I had with behringer pedals was that the volume level decreased when the pedal was engaged. OK for home recording but useless for live.
Can you please e-mail me the measurements of the wooden pedal board? Looks very cool
I own a Behringer VD400 Vintage Delay and a NR300 Noise Reducer
AND I LOVE EM
They are great indeed! Have you tried out the VM1?
@ No, what’s a VM1?
A Behringer vintage Time Machine. Basically a memory man clone. Pretty decent build quality metal enclosure and sounds great. I mention it because you enjoy the vintage delay.
Iwant to buy the right one to do 80’s heavy metal like W.A.S.P. What would i need to get the chris holmes/ randy piper tones with these pedals
Great video. Make more :)
Hey thanks for the watch and comment! I will certainly be making more !
Question as newbie: Wouldnt common sense dictate that the Noise Gate is very LAST in the chain? and wouldnt you want the signal coming OUT of the amp as clean as possible BEFORE hitting the distortion pedals (before the speaker??) Just curious. I had EVERYTHING in the effects loop before I saw this video, and then put EQ, compressor/sustainer, Synth, and Ultra Octaver BEFORE amp then everything else in the loop.
Hello! Depends on how you want to use your noise gate. There are many ways and reasons to use a NG certain ways. Here is a page that goes in detail. rolandcorp.com.au/blog/how-to-use-boss-ns-2-noise-suppressor-in-your-rig For how to use the effects loop, in general put these types of pedals in front of your preamp (guitar in) fuzzes, compressors , drives, boosts, tuners, wah , volume pedal, pitch shifters and put modulations effect (delays, chorus, vibe, tremolos, phasers, reverb) in the effect loop after the preamp. The main reason for this is so your guitar tone clean or distorted will go through the modulations. If you put modulation effects in front of drives they will change the behavior of the gain stage. This is not an unheard of way of using modulations and drives though. Many older amps did not have effect loops so lots of older records have delays in front of the pre amp. All that goes to say is these are suggestions for a starting point but, experiment and find the sound you want. If you have a fuzz or vintage style circuit fuzz it pretty much must be the very first pedal or it will not sound good. Right now I am mainly jamming with a couple drive pedals going into a chorus then delay and sending that right in to the “clean” side of a hot rod deluxe. Turning up to around 3 is plenty loud and lets most of the distortion come from the pedals with just a bit of extra distortion coloring from the pre amp gain stage.
@@MusicAndWood THANK YOU SO MUCH!
your missing the super fuzz pedal they have and it sounds so cool ive already ordered one
It is a nice pedal. I just have way too many fuzz pedals already.
@@MusicAndWood makes sense lmao
Sometimes people bring dead Behringers to my buddy who is the local amp guru. Once they find out they could buy 4+ new ones for what he’d charge to fix one they often abandon them and he gives them to me to disembowel for parts. I haven’t got to that yet so I just have a pile of dead pedals taking up space. Have to think their QC is non-existent. The vintage tube screamer is pretty good though and I used one daily for over a year with no problems.
28:10 we heard that seek and destroy thing
That SP riffs on 23:15
Yeah cherub rock
thanks very much
can you do a video on 15ips and say analog , warm , round, huge and fat alot ?
I'm surprised you didn't use the Jackson or Schecter behind you for the more "metal" pedals. That would've made much more sense.
hey nice video dude, i have two of these pedals the vintage overdrive along with vintage delay and i tried powering individual pedals with their own 9v power adapter but there seems to be a problem only one of the pedal seems to be working and the one just don't work, as you used multiple pedals wanted to know if i'm doing something wrong, kindly help if possible.
Thanks ! I used an isolated power supply. Here is an affiliate link for the one I was using amzn.to/3Y4O6t7 though if one of your pedals is not working there might be an issue. You should try with a battery too. Get a small screwdriver and press the black hinge pins in to release the cover there is a battery compartment under there.
Tremola?
Where are you from that you pronounce tremolo that way?
With all those pedals, shouldn't you have added a buffer in there somewhere?
Great thinking however, all the Boss and Behringer pedals are buffered already. Thanks for the watch and comment!
@@MusicAndWood I didn't know that. Thanks!
Can you do a review of the Bugera PS-1 I see in the background?
Thanks for the watch and comment. Sure I can do that.
good job
Why didn’t you run the noise reduction in the loop?
You put so much work into this and then ran it through a $99 Behringer nonreactive load box that makes it all sound like mud. I'd love to see you do this again and Mic it up.
Thanks for the watch and comment! The load box was actually reactive because I had a pair of Celestion vintage 30 speakers connected to the attenuator as the load. The load box will only be resistive when no speaker is used with it.
You did not record the speakers you said you used them as a monitor in the video. I have owned this Power Attenuator for years, they don't sound very good compared to the others I own. My comment had to do with all the time you put into making that awesome peddle board and then purchasing all the pedals. To me that was such a large amount of work to go to for the sound quality that was used. All I really hear in this whole video is mud which is why I made the comment, my intent was never to be rude. I watched the video in my studio and monitored the recording through a pair of Genelec 8350s. When you came to the TM300 Tube Amp Modeler it wasn't at all an accurate image of what that modeler sounds like. In fact all of the pedals sort of sounded like the same muddy tone I have been commenting on.
This is why I would love to see you do this again mic'd up through one of those Vintage 30's. That would be pretty epic.
Well thanks for listening on a nice pair of speakers and the input ! Sounded pretty decent as a demo video to me but I do always like to get better tones so I may do a comparison video with the PS1 emulator vs mic’d speaker with some more pedals to test it out.
@@dinofond I agree. This video was useless to me. It all sounds like it's coming through a layer of mud. Honestly, if this vid was all I had to go by, I would never even consider buying a Behringer pedal.
@@dogslobbergardens6606 The TM300 Tube Amp Modeler is pretty cool. It reminds me or the old school working mans Tech 21 SansAmp guitar Amp Emulator without the Fender amp. I appreciate the time MusicandWood took to make the video for sure.
Does no one use od pedals right?
You use them to push the drive channel of the amp, not as the overdrive
well explained.
Thanks a lot!
1:26 I thought bro said expensive😂
Are the pedals buffered or did you loose a lot of signal by the end of all these?
Great question! The pedals are all buffered.
35:00 “it’s preety spacey”
I've owned I think 5 different Behringer pedals and hated all of them except the Vintage Tube Monster, which had a preamp tube in it. The cheap plastic ones sounded bad to me in person.
I put the HD300 in the effects loop. Trust.
where did you get that Fred Flintstone capo. Haven't seen one of those since my guitars with 1/2" action days.
I like that capo because I can choose the perfect pressure for each of my guitar’s necks, just enough to keep the strings pressed on the frets.
All the distortion effects sounded catastrophically grim. All the modulation effects seemed viable.
You're missing the best one: SUPER FUZZ!
I've built a smaller pedalboard with mostly Behringer pedals and quite honestly, it allows me to produce really solid guitar output. The Super Fuzz is my favourite of the lot though.
I have heard a lot of good things about the super fuzz. I already have a lot of fuzz pedals so I didn’t pick it up.
@@MusicAndWood It is truly a great pedal. Though probs not worth getting if you have the Boss that it clones. I've got the Overdrive Distortion and Vintage Tube Overdrive ones too, but honestly...between the Super Fuzz and the Vintage Tube, I rarely even use the regular purple Overdrive Distortion anymore because Super Fuzz does distortion waaay better, and Vintage Tube does Overdrive in a much punchier way. Honestly considering getting rid of the purple pedal now because of this. The Behringer range certainly gives us a lot of distortion and overdrive options to play around with. I haven't tried the Ultra Metal or Heavy Distortion pedals out myself, but maybe one of those would better suit me.
@@MusicAndWood If you want to hear how the Super Fuzz sounds, just check out the video/track on my channel called 'Ambulance'. I used it on the rhythm guitar throughout that track. Also on the track 'Roll Credits' too. I love how toasty it sounds, bordering on sounding electronic. Pretty badass IMO! Reminds me of Ty Segall or some other crazy garage punk. Ambulance is in drop D on my Strat, and Roll Credits is in D standard on my SG. Should give you a couple of different ideas of how the pedal sounds.
Did you try Ultra Octaver on polyphonic? as in playing it in a chord
Hello great question! I am pretty sure I did try and it did not sound very good. I’ll try again and let you know.
The vintage phaser stays on my board
I didn't know Forest Griffin did guitar videos.
12:26 seems to boost but is it supposed to make a clicking sound?
Likely not, it should’t have. May have been 1 of a few reasons why it did click.
13:24 Right there Officer! 👮♂👮♂
I’ve got only only one Behringer pedal whatsoever, and I guess I like their wah-wah, in spite of it being constructed with cheap plastic that feels like stepping on dog-shit, cause it sounds better than any of my crybabies or whatever. I kind of just want to shove the circuit in a metal housing so the pedal will feel as solid as it sounds under my foot. 😅
am i blind or i dont see reverb? 😂
Dirty signal chain, dirty pedals. These are great if you just wanna experiment for the first time with an effect that you’re not very sure of or used to, but as for permanent petals on a board if you’re a serious musician that plays gigs more than three times a week I don’t recommend these types of pedals, grounding issues, bad soldering connections, and cheap components suck tone using a lot of these pedals or even just one in the wrong way gives you a similar sound of having a bad cord saps sound
I can't tell whether you look more like Jim Carrey than Keanu Reeves or more like Keanu Reeves than Jim Carrey. Anyway, I can tell that Jim Reeves's videos are as good as Keanu Carrey's ones, that's for sure
Haha that is great thanks!
Check out gustavo cerati on how to use a delay pedal!
Yes.
Brother, when I switch overdrive to heavy metal , the volume is going down why, what I have to do to have same level of volume.
Thanks for the watch! I would suggest to start with the tone knobs all at 50% and gain 50% on both pedals. Then adjust level so they are close, now adjust gain for the max distortion you want on each. Readjust the levels to match in volume. After that you can tweak the eq on the pedals and you may need to then do a final level adjustment.