🔴 Thanks for watching. What do you like best about this left shoulder move and is there anything about it you don't understand? Let me know in the comments below 👇
This is the first time I have ever heard anyone talk about moving the left shoulder away from the chin in the downswing. I have always wondered why I felt so awkward and now I see the reason why. So far I have only rehearsed that move indoors since watching the video yesterday and it feels much more comfortable. I will work on that at the range today. Your instruction is so easy to listen to and follow as it all comes across in such a calm manner. Excellent in my opinion. Thank you.
The amateur swing you demonstrated illustrated to me all the reasons why I am having trouble getting through the ball and ending up hitting thin and inconsistent shots. Thanks so much.
Troy, just got back from the range. My swing thought - left shoulder down (backswing), pause, left shoulder down, and forward on downswing. I was compressing irons like never before - crushed! I strengthened my left hand a little on the grip which helped the flight and distance - FSL. My fairway woods suffered a bit which is usually a strength, but nothing disastrous. Your explanation helped me realize I was getting stuck, left shoulder up, and losing lag which led to a high ball flight, striking it low on the clubface. Thank you for a great lesson.
Thanks Jerry, yes it's certainly an eye-opener for many of us. Was there a particular left shoulder move you feel you can gain the most improvement from? Cheers
@@Hittingitsolid ln my pomp I thought I was half decent playing off 2 but age catches up with you, 58 now and playing off 4, I'm on the slippery slope! I've never had lessons and have only just recently started watching golf instructional videos and I find them really useful, yours I particularly look forward to. I'm currently working on reducing my shallow shoulder plane which you touch on in this video. I've put a lot of work in at the driving range on various aspects of my game with encouraging results there, however it's a slow process taking it to the course. Looking forward to next season, thanks.
The "left shoulder move" that I have been making is pushing the left shoulder down and arm back in the takeaway and at the same time, pulling the right shoulder back and around as far as possible and then rebounding off of this move into the downswing. It seems to be working because I am making solid contact and getting more distance. I like your recommendation of the lead shoulder coming to your lead leg which appears to get your lower body to move forward and not hand back for a solid iron shot. Great job as usual Troy!
Not the first time I've heard this, but it's good re- inforcement to hear another take on it. Thanks. I think I need to incorporate this move more, and will keep working on it for sure.
Probably your best visual presentation here I definitely learned something especially the shoulder away from chin in downswing. Thank you for sharing your game
Troy. As always, this is great information. The way you defined the principle of "stacking" will benefit me greatly moving forward. I now understand that ball compression is mostly about proper anatomical alignment. No more "hanging back." Thanks.
Best video, ever, Troy! Thanks! Left shoulder down in backswing, then down and around behind you in the downswing, Correct? I've started the left shoulder down in backswing, but "up" in the downswing! Results in poor contact, early extension, standing up, shanks, etc.!!! Thank you!
Thank you, i was having this problem with just an arm swing and not finishing my turn due to my shoulder coming up causing bad shots. After working on this, there has been a great improvemet, thanks again.
Well done, it's only recently I've come to realize that my whole golf game is rubbish and I now have to get used to moving my weight forward, when I do it correctly the ball flies effortlessly. Thank you for the lesson.
By using this technique, yesterday at the range I was hitting shots so well I got really bored and wanted to leave before I was finished with the bucket. No joke.
Thank you for this information! I’ve realized my left should is causing a a lot of issues in my swing. My left shoulder shoots up in the downswing like you said. It also get really rounded and tucked into my body. Any tips on how to correct that portion of it?
Sorry Tim I forgot to answer your question. It's called the Lag Shot training aid. A great tool to improve many areas in your golf swing. If you're interested let me know and I can get you a 15% discount. Cheers
Thanks, Troy. A move that has been a tremendous help is just prior to impact I pull my left shoulder blade back. As opposed to focusing in driving my right shoulder down and forward. I can pull my left shoulder back and still not open my chest to target. But by focusing on the shoulder blade my whole body including hips opens. Do you have any thoughts on this ?
My shoulder moves down too much and my head dips. I found this video looking for fixes for this problem but it does not seem too common because I find plenty of videos where the left shoulder comes up.
On the pro golfer video, at impact, his trail shoulder is lower the the front shoulder, but I believe his front shoulder is lifting but is it starting to roll back?
@@keithlithander9648 Hi Keith, excellent. Use this link spornia.com/?ref=hittingitsolid and use the words: hittingitsolid in the coupon code area. Let me know if you have any questions or issues. Cheers
@@Hittingitsolid - Yes indeed Troy. The lowering of the left shoulder on the transition is a weird concept but absolutely essential to get right. Difficult for us amateurs to get right of the bat. Lot of practice required. Muscle memory.
Hello, this move happens for a split second at the start of the downswing as the shoulders and hips are rotating open. It's only a very short move, but an important one. Cheers
You also need to look at your natural posture, if you have a nice straight upper back with flat scapula and shoulders away from your cheast muscles and low connected to the torso it makes it a lot easier. If you have a more hunched forward posture where the scapula are pushed up causing your shoulders to be in a more forward and up position then your shoulders tend to be disconnected from the torso. I really need to correct my posture first to allow my shoulders work correctly. If shoulders are not connected properly to the torso then there is no chance. When your shoulders are in correct position to start with then they have the ability to move around you ribcage, meaning the scapula can move away from the spine and towards the spine. That is fine as long as scapula don't move up because that will disconnect the shoulder from the torso. I like the image you give about the left shoulder moving towards the left foot and away the chin because it is easy to move the upper torso away from the ball in the backswing and to the target in the downswing, let's say the more upper body sway.
The problem is that what you're really describing isn't the left shoulder, which is to say the joint itself, moving but rather that the left shoulder has travelled in space in such a way as a result of a proper coil of the torso and lower body.
Physically as our left shoulder goes down our trail shoulder must go up equally on our backswing. So as I see you pushing down more with your left shoulder for your downswing I see your trail shoulder going down as it should. Sorry; but I really do not see both shoulders going down on the downswing with professional golfers. Cheers
Hi Thomas, thanks for your comment. Both shoulders do go down in the downswing. It's difficult to see unless you slow the swing in super slow motion and see each frame. Pro golfers get a distinct drop (the Tiger squat) as they start their downswing. It helps them use the ground for power as they spring off. It's more obvious in iron shots. The left shoulder down is only small, but it happens. If you do the opposite and pull the left shoulder up as you start the downswing you'll find it's easy to bottom out behind the golf ball and hit a lot of fat shots. It's a good one to practice to find that happy medium on how much it drops. Hope that makes sense. Cheers
@@Hittingitsolid I see. I am not focusing on pulling my left shoulder up at all. My preference for my downswing is the simultaneous crunching and turning of my trail side obliques as I maintain my golf posture. My body never stands up on my backswing so I don’t feel the need to do the Tiger squat at all on my downswing because of the simultaneous lowering of my trail shoulder down while my lead shoulder is raising and turning up 20 degrees left. Both my shoulders level off together at the completion of my downswing. I don’t have a dropped club behind the ball as I am swinging because I am tilting ( crunching ) and turning at the exact same time both first on my lead side for backswing and then on my trail side on my downswing until the end of my swing when I naturally stand up.Cheers
@@Hittingitsolid every professional golfer does what I coined: The Trail Side Obliques Crunch & Turn Golf Swing At Impact. No one has ever bottle the golf swing to be that simple; but it is, once the basics are learned. It took me over 40 years to discover the beauty and simplicity of a golf swing for my self and I only wish I could share it with everyone before I leave this earth. Cheers
🔴 Thanks for watching. What do you like best about this left shoulder move and is there anything about it you don't understand? Let me know in the comments below 👇
This is the first time I have ever heard anyone talk about moving the left shoulder away from the chin in the downswing. I have always wondered why I felt so awkward and now I see the reason why. So far I have only rehearsed that move indoors since watching the video yesterday and it feels much more comfortable. I will work on that at the range today. Your instruction is so easy to listen to and follow as it all comes across in such a calm manner. Excellent in my opinion. Thank you.
Thanks Rich, glad you enjoy it. Appreciate it.
The amateur swing you demonstrated illustrated to me all the reasons why I am having trouble getting through the ball and ending up hitting thin and inconsistent shots. Thanks so much.
Thanks Jack, glad it helped you out. Cheers
What a fantastic explanation 👏
I am so upset with previous teachers that neglected this incredible move! Thank you so much! Bill
Milton Ontario Canada
Thanks Bill, appreciate it.
Troy, just got back from the range. My swing thought - left shoulder down (backswing), pause, left shoulder down, and forward on downswing. I was compressing irons like never before - crushed!
I strengthened my left hand a little on the grip which helped the flight and distance - FSL.
My fairway woods suffered a bit which is usually a strength, but nothing disastrous.
Your explanation helped me realize I was getting stuck, left shoulder up, and losing lag which led to a high ball flight, striking it low on the clubface.
Thank you for a great lesson.
Nice work Adam, sounds like you go it. Keep it up and let me know if you have any further questions. Cheers
The comparisons between pros and ams is the best way to show where we're going wrong. Good video.
Thanks Jerry, yes it's certainly an eye-opener for many of us. Was there a particular left shoulder move you feel you can gain the most improvement from? Cheers
@@Hittingitsolid ln my pomp I thought I was half decent playing off 2 but age catches up with you, 58 now and playing off 4, I'm on the slippery slope! I've never had lessons and have only just recently started watching golf instructional videos and I find them really useful, yours I particularly look forward to. I'm currently working on reducing my shallow shoulder plane which you touch on in this video. I've put a lot of work in at the driving range on various aspects of my game with encouraging results there, however it's a slow process taking it to the course. Looking forward to next season, thanks.
@@jerryhilditch5991 Thanks Jerry, sounds like you're on the right track. Keep up the great golf. Appreciate your support. Cheers
The "left shoulder move" that I have been making is pushing the left shoulder down and arm back in the takeaway and at the same time, pulling the right shoulder back and around as far as possible and then rebounding off of this move into the downswing. It seems to be working because I am making solid contact and getting more distance. I like your recommendation of the lead shoulder coming to your lead leg which appears to get your lower body to move forward and not hand back for a solid iron shot. Great job as usual Troy!
Thanks John, glad it helped
Not the first time I've heard this, but it's good re- inforcement to hear another take on it. Thanks. I think I need to incorporate this move more, and will keep working on it for sure.
Thanks Steven, appreciate it.
Probably your best visual presentation here I definitely learned something especially the shoulder away from chin in downswing. Thank you for sharing your game
Thanks Paul, appreciate it.
Troy. As always, this is great information. The way you defined the principle of "stacking" will benefit me greatly moving forward. I now understand that ball compression is mostly about proper anatomical alignment. No more "hanging back." Thanks.
Thanks Joel, appreciate it
Great insight and explanation. Took it to the course and wow what a difference. Thanks for showing me the way.
Thanks, glad it helped
Outstanding explanation. I am new here from Florida. Your explanations are very detailed and easier to understand by going step by step
Thank you, glad it helped you out. Cheers
Another great video. I'll give some feedback on this. This is the first-ever tip I heard about the left shoulder even though I saw the pros do it.
Thank you, yes the left shoulder plays a very key role.
Best video, ever, Troy! Thanks! Left shoulder down in backswing, then down and around behind you in the downswing, Correct? I've started the left shoulder down in backswing, but "up" in the downswing! Results in poor contact, early extension, standing up, shanks, etc.!!! Thank you!
Thanks Greg, yes, you’ve got it
Thank you, i was having this problem with just an arm swing and not finishing my turn due to my shoulder coming up causing bad shots. After working on this, there has been a great improvemet, thanks again.
Excellent, nice work!
Well done, it's only recently I've come to realize that my whole golf game is rubbish and I now have to get used to moving my weight forward, when I do it correctly the ball flies effortlessly. Thank you for the lesson.
Thanks Eric, appreciate it.
Ken Mac ,I found this shoulder move really helpful chipping
That's great to hear Ken. Cheers
More birdies in this video then ill get in my life, great video as always 🤙
Thanks Raz, let me know if you have any questions about the video. Cheers
@@Hittingitsolid love you and your calm voice
@@razmataz2823 thank you, appreciate it
Wow! Those birds are so loud! Is there a wildlife sanctuary on the other side of that fence? Great golf tip btw!
Thanks David, appreciate it
No wonder I stand up in my back swing, great video, thank you.
Thank you, appreciate it.
Very good explanation, thanks Troy.
Thanks Eric, appreciate it
Truly great explanation, Troy, of how to maintain relationship to the ball for a great strike. If only it was that easy to do:-)
Thanks Adam, let me know if you have any questions. Cheers
By using this technique, yesterday at the range I was hitting shots so well I got really bored and wanted to leave before I was finished with the bucket. No joke.
That’s great to hear Ethan
That tip,is fantastic. Thank you.
Nice,u got a new subscriber. Will be on the lookout for hitting ball first
Thanks Gregg, appreciate it
i know this is gonna help, thnx. a good swing thought and move.
Thanks Steve
Thank you for this information! I’ve realized my left should is causing a a lot of issues in my swing. My left shoulder shoots up in the downswing like you said. It also get really rounded and tucked into my body. Any tips on how to correct that portion of it?
Thank you, if it’s getting rounded it sounds like you need a bit more rotation as you’re moving through the ball
@@Hittingitsolid thank you so much! I have noticed that I need to get my hips through and not sway so much. Keep up the great work!
Well done Troy! Great clear presentation. Explanations were well paced and practical. What's the blue shafted club I have seen in your videos Cheers
Thanks Tim, appreciate it.
Sorry Tim I forgot to answer your question. It's called the Lag Shot training aid. A great tool to improve many areas in your golf swing. If you're interested let me know and I can get you a 15% discount. Cheers
Is this the case for woods as well? Move the left shoulder down first?
Good swing thoughts relative to the left shoulder. Is it the recentering motion that pulls the shoulder away from the chin during the downswing?
Yes John, it contributes to that. Cheers
Thanks, Troy. A move that has been a tremendous help is just prior to impact I pull my left shoulder blade back. As opposed to focusing in driving my right shoulder down and forward. I can pull my left shoulder back and still not open my chest to target. But by focusing on the shoulder blade my whole body including hips opens. Do you have any thoughts on this ?
Thanks Tom, the body and hips need to open in the downswing as this create space for the arms.
My shoulder moves down too much and my head dips. I found this video looking for fixes for this problem but it does not seem too common because I find plenty of videos where the left shoulder comes up.
Yes Larry, the left shoulder has to come up in the downswing, but, most for golfers it comes up too quickly causing an early release and other issues.
This is good and clear.
Thanks Than, did it all make sense? Cheers
I will try this!!
Excellent, good luck with it. Cheers
Love the birds ❤️
Thanks :)
On the pro golfer video, at impact, his trail shoulder is lower the the front shoulder, but I believe his front shoulder is lifting but is it starting to roll back?
Yes, maybe just a bit
Thank you, I really like the ball flight and direction. Not comfortable with it enough, to increase swing speed/release.
Where would you recommend I get that golf mat and back drop. I like the one you have.
Hi Keith, yes I can help you. Which country are you from so I can send you the right link? Do you want me to send it here or a different email? Thanks
USA
US
@@keithlithander9648 Hi Keith, excellent. Use this link spornia.com/?ref=hittingitsolid and use the words: hittingitsolid in the coupon code area. Let me know if you have any questions or issues. Cheers
@@keithlithander9648 I've sent you the info. Cheers
Great thanks!
Thanks Roger, did the video all make sense? Cheers
@@Hittingitsolid - Yes indeed Troy. The lowering of the left shoulder on the transition is a weird concept but absolutely essential to get right. Difficult for us amateurs to get right of the bat. Lot of practice required. Muscle memory.
@@rogernewton7831 Thanks Roger, yes, takes a bit of practice. Cheers
Great video
Thanks Lenard!
So how does this relate to impact where your hips and shoulders are open to the target line.?
Hello, this move happens for a split second at the start of the downswing as the shoulders and hips are rotating open. It's only a very short move, but an important one. Cheers
Yes i can relate
Thank you
Just found this teacher 👍
Thanks Derry, appreciate it
Nice
Thank you very much, let me know if you have any questions. Cheers
You also need to look at your natural posture, if you have a nice straight upper back with flat scapula and shoulders away from your cheast muscles and low connected to the torso it makes it a lot easier. If you have a more hunched forward posture where the scapula are pushed up causing your shoulders to be in a more forward and up position then your shoulders tend to be disconnected from the torso. I really need to correct my posture first to allow my shoulders work correctly. If shoulders are not connected properly to the torso then there is no chance.
When your shoulders are in correct position to start with then they have the ability to move around you ribcage, meaning the scapula can move away from the spine and towards the spine. That is fine as long as scapula don't move up because that will disconnect the shoulder from the torso.
I like the image you give about the left shoulder moving towards the left foot and away the chin because it is easy to move the upper torso away from the ball in the backswing and to the target in the downswing, let's say the more upper body sway.
Thank you, appreciate it
very wise
Thanks
The problem is that what you're really describing isn't the left shoulder, which is to say the joint itself, moving but rather that the left shoulder has travelled in space in such a way as a result of a proper coil of the torso and lower body.
It’s a different feel for some, but as long as it gets you the result
Physically as our left shoulder goes down our trail shoulder must go up equally on our backswing. So as I see you pushing down more with your left shoulder for your downswing I see your trail shoulder going down as it should.
Sorry; but I really do not see both shoulders going down on the downswing with professional golfers. Cheers
Hi Thomas, thanks for your comment. Both shoulders do go down in the downswing. It's difficult to see unless you slow the swing in super slow motion and see each frame. Pro golfers get a distinct drop (the Tiger squat) as they start their downswing. It helps them use the ground for power as they spring off. It's more obvious in iron shots. The left shoulder down is only small, but it happens. If you do the opposite and pull the left shoulder up as you start the downswing you'll find it's easy to bottom out behind the golf ball and hit a lot of fat shots. It's a good one to practice to find that happy medium on how much it drops. Hope that makes sense. Cheers
@@Hittingitsolid I see. I am not focusing on pulling my left shoulder up at all. My preference for my downswing is the simultaneous crunching and turning of my trail side obliques as I maintain my golf posture. My body never stands up on my backswing so I don’t feel the need to do the Tiger squat at all on my downswing because of the simultaneous lowering of my trail shoulder down while my lead shoulder is raising and turning up 20 degrees left. Both my shoulders level off together at the completion of my downswing.
I don’t have a dropped club behind the ball as I am swinging because I am tilting ( crunching ) and turning at the exact same time both first on my lead side for backswing and then on my trail side on my downswing until the end of my swing when I naturally stand up.Cheers
@@thomasfraser9072 Yep, no worries. That's a good feel to have. Sounds like it's working well. Cheers
@@Hittingitsolid every professional golfer does what I coined: The Trail Side Obliques Crunch & Turn Golf Swing At Impact. No one has ever bottle the golf swing to be that simple; but it is, once the basics are learned.
It took me over 40 years to discover the beauty and simplicity of a golf swing for my self and I only wish I could share it with everyone before I leave this earth. Cheers
@@thomasfraser9072 Yes Thomas, definitely a good feel to have. Cheers
i did it wrong
Ok
You can't do this if your hips don't move out of the way.