@@davewallace9191 Yes, it could be Dave. Do you feel like you scoop or flip a bit at impact? If your right shoulder doesn't move across right in the downswing especially, a flip can result. Cheers
@@Hittingitsolid Tks Troy mostly happens with longer irons and I think its more trying to hit it too hard as I hit the shorter ones pretty well....always a perennial problem with us amateurs.
@@davewallace9191 Ah yes, definitely those long irons it is tempting to give it a bit more. Sounds like you're at least aware of the issue and can fix it with the right swing thought. Cheers
Oh the other thing I experience is that if my knees are more flexed at address i tend to move the left knee further on the backswing Does the knee flex affect the movement of the left knee or doesn't it really matter Tnx very much for your videos
Troy, an awesome video Thank you very much. Your videos are very special because you mention things other coaches ignores or forget to explain so well.
As the right shoulder goes up so to does my lead shoulder goes down. Like everyone else; since both of my shoulders have 20 degree limited range of motion; crunching of my lead side obliques must take during my backswing. This is what turns my lead shoulder to the complete 90 degrees downward turn. On my downswing a secondary trail side obliques crunch must take place as I am simply pushing my move club head down with my trail hand and then quickly up and around to left side with my lead hand.In our golf swing we all must tilt and turn getting all the parts in our body to cooperate simultaneously. At 74 and overweight I discovered It is really simpler then it sounds. Cheers
@@Hittingitsolid yes and my only swing thought is crunching and turning with my lead side obliques on my backswing and then doing a secondary crunch and turning of my obliques with my trail side as I am swinging my club with my right hand pushing up on my back swing and then pushing down on my downswing as my lead hand is pulling up on my backswing and then up at the middle of my downswing. Because my obliques connects my upper body with my lower body everything automatically is working together and cooperating at all the13 hinging points in my body. Cheers
@@Hittingitsolid thank you for reading. It is funny the deeper I get into my swing the easier and more accurate it has become. Your videos are always thought provoking and for me this is good. Have you done a video on the obliques yourself? Cheers
@@thomasfraser9072 No worries at all. I haven't specifically spoken about the obliques, but did do one of the 'core driven golf swing' which is along the same line. Not sure if you've seen that one as yet. Cheers
Excellent demo on the role of the right shoulder in the downswing Troy! I am guilty of letting the right shoulder moving out rather than down and when it happens, I know immediately what I did wrong. This is definitely a "work in progress" for me. I have been concentrating on dropping both arms down with the elbows into my sides on set up and this seems to be helping. Also, through other of your videos I am trying to lessen my upper body role and activate more my lower body on the downswing.
@@Hittingitsolid At the moment, feedback is mirror/reflection images. I won't start recording until after the Holidays when our 'little group' convenes at the local golf dome. :)
I think you need some stretch in the right side of the upperbody but sometimes the stretch continues to the right upper leg and therefor losing the angle. Therefor I need to pay attention to maintaining the angle between the right upper leg and upperbody. Pushing and pulling the upperbody can easily lead to swaying.
Hello Troy how are I notice that as the shoulders begin turning on the backswing the left knee moves back almost simultaneously this makes the backswing easier otherwise it feels restrictive Is that correct
Yes Immerman, that's correct. Although how much the knee moves is different for everyone. Mine doesn't move a lot, but that's just what feels natural to me. Do you feel your left moves too much at all? Cheers
@@immermanarnold2938 No problem at all. Practice it slowly at first and then do some short shots before building up to longer swings. Also, practice it with your wedges first. I think that will help. Let me know if you have any more questions. Cheers
Right shoulder in the downswing - down , then forward ( laterally) towards the target and through impact . Is that right ? If I point the right shoulder at the ball in the downswing, I come over the top and pull my shots straight left .
Yes Tommy, that's correct. You don't want the right shoulder going out towards the ball. That causes an over the top slice or a pull left depending on the clubface at impact. Cheers
@@Hittingitsolid Thanks Troy for your response . For so long I’ve driven the right shoulder towards the ball , stopped rotating and then flipping . I’m just starting to see the enormous benefits of using the right shoulder as you’ve explained. Definitely an“ Eureka “ moment . Just one other question . I concentrate on keeping my right forearm pointing straight out in front of me (90 degrees to the target line ) for as long as possible in the downswing , together with ulnar deviation ( wrist cock down ) through impact . Are these two methods conducive with the right shoulder movement we have been discussing ? Cheers and thanks once again for your videos .
@@tommyruff1286 Yes, exactly right Tommy. I have a similar feel with my right forearm and wrist. This is especially true when hitting my iron shots. Cheers
@@Hittingitsolid Thanks Troy . The correct right shoulder movement has definitely steered me in the right direction. I consider it one of the fundamentals in the golf swing and I wish I had instilled it into my game years ago . I listened to tips like at the top begin your downswing by dropping your arms straight down . This is so wrong because you can drop your arms without moving your right shoulder at all ,leaving it hanging back , putting you in a wrong position straight away . The arms do initially drop straight down but this must be instigated by the movement down of the right shoulder , not independently . Oh well .You live and learn and ultimately you learn from your mistakes . Cheers.
🔴 Are you missing any of these right shoulder moves? Let me know in the comments 👇
I often hit my iron shots great but they go left could this be related to this right shoulder problem
@@davewallace9191 Yes, it could be Dave. Do you feel like you scoop or flip a bit at impact? If your right shoulder doesn't move across right in the downswing especially, a flip can result. Cheers
@@Hittingitsolid Tks Troy mostly happens with longer irons and I think its more trying to hit it too hard as I hit the shorter ones pretty well....always a perennial problem with us amateurs.
@@davewallace9191 Ah yes, definitely those long irons it is tempting to give it a bit more. Sounds like you're at least aware of the issue and can fix it with the right swing thought. Cheers
Oh the other thing I experience is that if my knees are more flexed at address i tend to move the left knee further on the backswing
Does the knee flex affect the movement of the left knee or doesn't it really matter
Tnx very much for your videos
An amazing teacher of golf.
Thank you Godwin
Thanks a lot Troy. I appreciate so much your videos. You are a wonderfull teacher for us. I am from Chile.
Thank you Marcelo
Very good explanation, especially the comparison between pros and amateurs 👌
Thanks Johann, appreciate it!
Great video Troy. Keep them coming like this!
Thank you very much, let me know if you have any questions. Cheers
Troy, an awesome video Thank you very much. Your videos are very special because you mention things other coaches ignores or forget to explain so well.
Thanks Lionel, appreciate it.
Great tips
Thanks Lenard
As the right shoulder goes up so to does my lead shoulder goes down. Like everyone else; since both of my shoulders have 20 degree limited range of motion; crunching of my lead side obliques must take during my backswing. This is what turns my lead shoulder to the complete 90 degrees downward turn. On my downswing a secondary trail side obliques crunch must take place as I am simply pushing my move club head down with my trail hand and then quickly up and around to left side with my lead hand.In our golf swing we all must tilt and turn getting all the parts in our body to cooperate simultaneously. At 74 and overweight I discovered It is really simpler then it sounds. Cheers
Yes Thomas, it definitely can be a challenge. Are you able to practice in front of a video or mirror to see how the shoulder is moving? Cheers
@@Hittingitsolid yes and my only swing thought is crunching and turning with my lead side obliques on my backswing and then doing a secondary crunch and turning of my obliques with my trail side as I am swinging my club with my right hand pushing up on my back swing and then pushing down on my downswing as my lead hand is pulling up on my backswing and then up at the middle of my downswing. Because my obliques connects my upper body with my lower body everything automatically is working together and cooperating at all the13 hinging points in my body. Cheers
@@thomasfraser9072 Nice work Thomas, sounds like you're on the right track. Let me know if you have any further questions. Cheers
@@Hittingitsolid thank you for reading. It is funny the deeper I get into my swing the easier and more accurate it has become. Your videos are always thought provoking and for me this is good.
Have you done a video on the obliques yourself? Cheers
@@thomasfraser9072 No worries at all. I haven't specifically spoken about the obliques, but did do one of the 'core driven golf swing' which is along the same line. Not sure if you've seen that one as yet. Cheers
Excellent demo on the role of the right shoulder in the downswing Troy! I am guilty of letting the right shoulder moving out rather than down and when it happens, I know immediately what I did wrong. This is definitely a "work in progress" for me. I have been concentrating on dropping both arms down with the elbows into my sides on set up and this seems to be helping. Also, through other of your videos I am trying to lessen my upper body role and activate more my lower body on the downswing.
Thanks John, glad it helped you out. Cheers
Nicely done, Troy, thanks. I have a tendency to “level out” my right shoulder through impact😬 This looks like a great off-season drill to get proper.
Thanks Ken, appreciate it. Are you recording your swing or using some sort of feedback to improvement the movement? Cheers
@@Hittingitsolid At the moment, feedback is mirror/reflection images. I won't start recording until after the Holidays when our 'little group' convenes at the local golf dome. :)
@@kenkohl2181 Nice work Ken, that's always a good way to do it. Let me know if you have any further questions. Cheers
I think you need some stretch in the right side of the upperbody but sometimes the stretch continues to the right upper leg and therefor losing the angle. Therefor I need to pay attention to maintaining the angle between the right upper leg and upperbody. Pushing and pulling the upperbody can easily lead to swaying.
Yep, most definitely
Hello Troy how are
I notice that as the shoulders begin turning on the backswing the left knee moves back almost simultaneously this makes the backswing easier otherwise it feels restrictive
Is that correct
Yes Immerman, that's correct. Although how much the knee moves is different for everyone. Mine doesn't move a lot, but that's just what feels natural to me. Do you feel your left moves too much at all? Cheers
@@Hittingitsolid thanks very much for your response I also don't move it a lot so it causes a bit of tension so think helps get the downswing started
@@immermanarnold2938 No problem at all. Practice it slowly at first and then do some short shots before building up to longer swings. Also, practice it with your wedges first. I think that will help. Let me know if you have any more questions. Cheers
Right shoulder in the downswing - down , then forward ( laterally) towards the target and through impact . Is that right ? If I point the right shoulder at the ball in the downswing, I come over the top and pull my shots straight left .
Yes Tommy, that's correct. You don't want the right shoulder going out towards the ball. That causes an over the top slice or a pull left depending on the clubface at impact. Cheers
@@Hittingitsolid
Thanks Troy for your response . For so long I’ve driven the right shoulder towards the ball , stopped rotating and then flipping . I’m just starting to see the enormous benefits of using the right shoulder as you’ve explained. Definitely an“ Eureka “ moment . Just one other question . I concentrate on keeping my right forearm pointing straight out in front of me (90 degrees to the target line ) for as long as possible in the downswing , together with ulnar deviation ( wrist cock down ) through impact . Are these two methods conducive with the right shoulder movement we have been discussing ?
Cheers and thanks once again for your videos .
@@tommyruff1286 Yes, exactly right Tommy. I have a similar feel with my right forearm and wrist. This is especially true when hitting my iron shots. Cheers
@@Hittingitsolid
Thanks Troy . The correct right shoulder movement has definitely steered me in the right direction. I consider it one of the fundamentals in the golf swing and I wish I had instilled it into my game years ago . I listened to tips like at the top begin your downswing by dropping your arms straight down . This is so wrong because you can drop your arms without moving your right shoulder at all ,leaving it hanging back , putting you in a wrong position straight away . The arms do initially drop straight down but this must be instigated by the movement down of the right shoulder , not independently .
Oh well .You live and learn and ultimately you learn from your mistakes .
Cheers.
@@tommyruff1286 Thanks Tommy, yes we never stop learning in this game. Cheers
What is amazing about Adam Scott is his right butt cheek has been barely moved as his right shoulder is coming down. He really stays in posture.
So true Greg, he makes it look so easy. Not always that way for the rest of us though :) Cheers