Mmmmmm was this video about me?!! I cant remember where I heard this before!! Hahah great video I'm so glad I spoke to you about this and took your advice. Thanks again brother
After 15 years of having Lake Malawi I switched to Lake Tanganyika because of some of the reasons you mentioned, 75 gallon with all new level of experience 🥇🙏
Because of you enthusiasm I went to Tanganyka’s. In one word? Awesome. I was sick of my Malawi’s constantly hurting and fighting. Now I changed my 190 gallon with 13 frontosa’s. 3 leleupis. 5 neolamprologus merengues is, a gold calvus. A black calvus and a wild caught beautiful white calvus. It al get along great. Relaxing swimmers. Just love my boys. Feeding them krill gold , hikari and cichlid formula. Great food. Thanks Jay. You’re the best.
This is a very honest and thoughtful video Jay, not to many aquarists do research these days and want an easy root or someone to blame when it all goes wrong..
Saw a single Tropheus in that tank at 4:00. Also you didnt mention Juli's... they are a great option for the 20 gallon+ crowd and not ultra aggressive.
G’day Mate, The words you spoke at the close of this video is great and it’s how my wife and I live our life. Sadly it’s rare to hear people speak like that. It’s how we were raise and it hasn’t changed today. Having said that love the fish advice please keep the info coming. I hope you enjoyed Christmas if you happen to celebrate it. We hope you and your family have a wonderful new year! Regards Duzzy from 🇦🇺
Interesting and informative. I set up a 125 here in Denver and went with the experts, Golden Fish in Lakewood. I was loaded down and satisfied with my collection then I noticed parasites. I went to the experts for advise and product and the next day every single fish was laying dead on the substrate. The "experts" failed to tell me to give my Africans a half a dose....I still had a colony of juvenile Tropheus and moved to the country. I brought oxygenated water and set up the tank and my juvies were literally jumping out of the water and coming down dead...I was shocked...just like that I was out of the hobby!
I'm 3 years late but this video is still very helpful. I have a 75 gal multi & leleupi tank. I was hoping to get julis too but since the multis have pretty much taken over, I scrapped that idea. I need cyps to finish off the tank but am also thinking I should just do a peacock build for about the same price. Should I finish off my tank or start a new one?
@@Jaywil07 the peacocks excite more as a show tank but I feel like I need to complete this set-up to fully appreciate it. Idk maybe I'll just get another 75 lol
I came to the comments to say the same thing. Paracyps and Cyps are great for community tanks, and Cyathopharynx or Enantiopus sp. "Kilesa" are unbeatable if you've got the space.
Great video. I always love learning about Tanganyikan set ups. Been violating the cardinal onesy rule for years with a single Frontosa and Tropheus Moori in a 100 gallon, with some dither silver dollars. Never see any infighting.....they seem to keep the balance and are content,,,,,although I know this is not the ideal set up, especially since they are supposed to have different diets. Keep the videos coming!
I read that Tanganykan cichlids need iodine for their thyroids to function properly is it found in freeze dried music shrimp and other fish foods such as veggie pellets ? is it something I should worry about and have to add epsom salt ever water change ??? I want to know your take on this
Moorii can be housed with duboisi. But definately need colonies. Small fish - most of the lamprologus species. Julidochromis as well. Julies and steatochrimis can be kept with tropheus if shells and cover for them. Have to understand their natural niches and temperaments. Just really can’t do different morphs of moorii. Don’t forget about frontosa.
Thank you for the info man! Working on a 60 tall, debating if I can keep a small group of Cyprichromis Leptosoma and a species of Shelly, either Neo. Similis or Lamp. Meleagris. I was thinking of growing some Mangroves in there too, to see how the fish would interact. Provided enough shells and rock work it should be a very active tank!
I know this doesn't happen normally but could you just keep one Tropheus on it's own with some Synodontis?...Just curious to know if it's possible or not out of interest
Currently running a 90 gallon Tanganyika/West African community tank. 5 x cyprichromis leptosomas. (Tanganyika) 2 x neolamprologus tretocephalus. (Tanganyika) 2 x neolamprologus leleupi. (Tanganyika) 1 x altolamprologus calvus. (Tanganyika) 3 x steatocranus tinanti (West African) 2 x anomalochromis thomasi (West African) Started with West Africans, then really got into Tanyganyikans. They seem to all get along great, besides the larger neolamprologus tretocephalus being pretty territorial. I keep the PH around 8.0.
Have you read the article 'The Petrochromis Myth' by Leigh Kissane? If not I'd highly recommend it. First hand experience beats all secondhand gossip in the world.
Hi there, I have a Tanganyikan community tank and would like to get some tropheus once I upgrade and add to my existing colony of fish. I've already sourced where to get Tropheus moorii moliro. The community currently consists of a single 5 bar cichlid, some leleupi, some masked julies, a colony of shell dwellers (neolamprologus brevis) and a group of synodontis Petricola. I'm going to be setting up a 6ft - 125gal tank with lots of large and small rocks. I would also like to create one of those high rock hides for the tropheus near the top of the tank. I know they need an algae based diet. I'm mostly only worried about the shellies being too small with the tropheus but they hold there own against everything else and are kind of taking over haha. I did find a few tanks on some forums that had multis but those are smaller than the shell dwellers I already have. Do you think this will work? Thanks.
Awsome vid. Just set up a 120 what stock would you recommend of the genus? Long time fish keeper of central American everything aggressive. Want to switch things up a bit.
Thanks for the info, I can see how these cichlids are going to be a joy to keep! I think Im going to add a 50 gal also to my fish room. What would you recommend stocking this size tank?
What about a goldfish? (Sorry 😏) I have a friend who went out with a guy who was into having fish, for about 6 months. He spent a ridiculous amount on a fish tank etc that took up a whole wall in her living room. She ended up loving that tank and fish. She missed them more than him when they broke up. I'm sure she'd love your channel (as long as she doesn't see I wrote about her!😳)
I have been looking for some advice on Tanganyika fish recently and just happened to come across this video! I am setting up a new tank (150cm in length, 50cm deep and 65cm in height? My preference goes out to a community type tank to enjoy all different kind of species of the lake. I love shelldwellers, leleupi's, calvus but also Petrochromis.... could you please give me some advice on what can, and can not be kept together in such a tank?
@@Jaywil07 Thanks for your quick reply Jay! What else can be mixed with Shelldwellers, leleupi and calvus that swims around more in the open? Or what do you rec. if I really want to keep petro's? Cheers mate!
Hi thank you for this video!I need help with my setup if you can give me advice it would be great.... in my aquarium I have 3 daffodils/brichardi (there were 5 of them, 2 were killed due to aggression), 4 leleupi cichlids, 1 calvus, 6 multifaciatus shell dwellers. The aggressiveness of daffodil cichlids towards other fish in the aquarium is constant, the aquarium is angular 190 liters with a lot of rocks and caves ... The fish are about 5 cm large, i got them 20days ago so i don't know so much about them. Will daffodils be always like this, should i remove them from aquarium back to the shop? Thank you
@@Jaywil07 I'd like Frontosa, but don't really know if A: The tank is big enough. and B: What can I keep with them that they're not going to eat if I keep them long enough for the to get big? I also like Leleupi, Brichardi and Compressiseps. Also shell dwellers..... in fact I love them all.
So for instance a colony of Brichardi and a colony of shell dwellers, anything I could put in to utilise the upper reaches of the aquarium? Shell dwellers probably wouldn't be left with much room if the Brichardi's took off?
Wait till u keep malawi shell dwellers, they are beutiful full of personality and they trade shells with each other. Every shell dweller personality u can find with malawi shell dwellers.
I got a 120 with 28 tropheus and 30 Blue Dolphins any doing fine but at first I got 13 of them and da wiped each other out but I didn't give up it was a little pricey though it's like 30 bucks a piece for the tropheus
It's been over a year and da r breeding n I feed them New Life Spectrum scared to feed him something else because I had some of them catch bloat once and another tank I got
I really waNt shellies Really but I am at my tank limit for now maybe in a year or so. Northfins food I have some I got with my. Guppies they seem to really like it
Cool video! Just started a colony of F1 Blue Zaire Mikula Frontosa (Giberosa). 15 2" growouts. Needed enough to get a good mix of males and females then when they get big enough to sex (in like 12yrs LOL) I'll reduce the colony to a good mix of males and females.
I think you should learn about other species than Tropheini species. There are Cyps, Featherfins and Sandsifters too other than these. I wouldn't keep Trops after Malawi mbuna, their body shape and behaviour are too similar.
If you are looking for "the best" place to buy Tangynika fish check out #southeastcichlids #davesrarefish .com .com.....✌️☮️🐟 Good vibes your way Jay!!!!
Tropheus? Really? Bleh. I'm all about the Tanganyika nano reef. As my babies grow, I'll move them into a bigger tank. Presently everybody's 1 and 1/2 to 3 in.
Mmmmmm was this video about me?!! I cant remember where I heard this before!! Hahah great video I'm so glad I spoke to you about this and took your advice. Thanks again brother
Yes it sparked the video. I don’t want anyone making a mistake that can be prevented
Learning from the best!!
After 15 years of having Lake Malawi I switched to Lake Tanganyika because of some of the reasons you mentioned, 75 gallon with all new level of experience 🥇🙏
Calvus species only here
2 pairs in seperate tanks and both have dropped fry after 3 years
Amazing fish
Because of you enthusiasm I went to Tanganyka’s. In one word? Awesome. I was sick of my Malawi’s constantly hurting and fighting. Now I changed my 190 gallon with 13 frontosa’s. 3 leleupis. 5 neolamprologus merengues is, a gold calvus. A black calvus and a wild caught beautiful white calvus. It al get along great. Relaxing swimmers. Just love my boys. Feeding them krill gold , hikari and cichlid formula. Great food. Thanks Jay. You’re the best.
Thank you, and remember you are the best! HOLLA
Subbed based on this one video, nice work man
Appreciate that.
This is a very honest and thoughtful video Jay, not to many aquarists do research these days and want an easy root or someone to blame when it all goes wrong..
Ahhhh Yeahhh braddah first one!!! Another banging video braddah love the content!! Much love and aloha 🤙🏽🐠🤙🏽CHEEHOO!!
Saw a single Tropheus in that tank at 4:00.
Also you didnt mention Juli's... they are a great option for the 20 gallon+ crowd and not ultra aggressive.
G’day Mate,
The words you spoke at the close of this video is great and it’s how my wife and I live our life. Sadly it’s rare to hear people speak like that. It’s how we were raise and it hasn’t changed today. Having said that love the fish advice please keep the info coming. I hope you enjoyed Christmas if you happen to celebrate it. We hope you and your family have a wonderful new year!
Regards Duzzy from 🇦🇺
Thanks buddy
Did you ever watch the video series called "Tales of Shells and Dust?" It is I think a five video series on fish in Lake Tanganyika.
Interesting and informative. I set up a 125 here in Denver and went with the experts, Golden Fish in Lakewood. I was loaded down and satisfied with my collection then I noticed parasites. I went to the experts for advise and product and the next day every single fish was laying dead on the substrate. The "experts" failed to tell me to give my Africans a half a dose....I still had a colony of juvenile Tropheus and moved to the country. I brought oxygenated water and set up the tank and my juvies were literally jumping out of the water and coming down dead...I was shocked...just like that I was out of the hobby!
Apologies if I missed it but whats the reason for "no onsies and twosies with Tropheus?
Thing about tropheus is that they choose a huge territory, they start owning the back of the tank and then some more and some more.
Hahahahahaha The BEST!
Had a tropheus duboisi.. died in 4 months during a filter switch and brought me to this vid... 😩😩😩
Great video. Just starting my Tropheus tank.
Good luck!
Greetings from Denmark😃 I have a 190 gallon tank with 64 Tropheus Kirshfleck and it just works great👍😉😃😃😃 They are F1’s and look amazing😃😃😃
I got a 10gal with 2 common goldfish, 2 skirt tetras, and 1 similis sheller. Community tanked it. Time to add another simi.
Great video especially for someone like me who is just about to start with a Tanganyika tank!
Glad it was helpful!
Just happened onto this video today. Appreciate the info and humour and the positive message at the end.
Thank you very much I greatly appreciate that there’s a message I pretty much every ending of videos that I do so thank you for staying that long
Unexpected and great message at the end :) agreed. Also, excellent info, thanks
Thanks for watching till the end means a lot
Have 2 5x2x2 tropheus tanks (T. moorii "Ndole Red" and "Moliro Red") and a 2.5 ft shelldweller (multies). Started each with 20+ fish. No dramas.
I'm 3 years late but this video is still very helpful. I have a 75 gal multi & leleupi tank. I was hoping to get julis too but since the multis have pretty much taken over, I scrapped that idea. I need cyps to finish off the tank but am also thinking I should just do a peacock build for about the same price. Should I finish off my tank or start a new one?
What makes you more excited.
@@Jaywil07 the peacocks excite more as a show tank but I feel like I need to complete this set-up to fully appreciate it. Idk maybe I'll just get another 75 lol
@@jinthao00 if you can get another 75 if not scrap it and go peacocks.
Currently having a 3ft x 1.5 x 1.5 ft tanganyika tank with bicardi, leleupi, julies and calvus 😆and loving it. Kept some punks in a 2ft tank too.
Surprised to not hear anything about cyathopharynx, cyprochromis, or chalinochromis.
I came to the comments to say the same thing. Paracyps and Cyps are great for community tanks, and Cyathopharynx or Enantiopus sp. "Kilesa" are unbeatable if you've got the space.
What do you say to putting in 12-14 ikola and 12-14 Kasanga (all juices) into a 90 gallon?
Great video. I always love learning about Tanganyikan set ups. Been violating the cardinal onesy rule for years with a single Frontosa and Tropheus Moori in a 100 gallon, with some dither silver dollars. Never see any infighting.....they seem to keep the balance and are content,,,,,although I know this is not the ideal set up, especially since they are supposed to have different diets. Keep the videos coming!
Thank you!
Hi thanks for that I didn't hear you mention neolamprologus or synodontis what about those ?
Kind regards
Big differense between the petro speces, trews and redz are quite easy if in a group of atleast 15, worst one ive kept is macronatus, hyperaggresive
What book was that? I could use such a specimen guide
I read that Tanganykan cichlids need iodine for their thyroids to function properly is it found in freeze dried music shrimp and other fish foods such as veggie pellets ? is it something I should worry about and have to add epsom salt ever water change ??? I want to know your take on this
Awesome Video. Very informative.
Thankyou for sharing. 👍
Moorii can be housed with duboisi. But definately need colonies.
Small fish - most of the lamprologus species. Julidochromis as well. Julies and steatochrimis can be kept with tropheus if shells and cover for them. Have to understand their natural niches and temperaments.
Just really can’t do different morphs of moorii. Don’t forget about frontosa.
I just brought 40 plus Maltese from a guy who was getting rid of tank when I got a couple Julie's in my tank as well
Thank you for the info man! Working on a 60 tall, debating if I can keep a small group of Cyprichromis Leptosoma and a species of Shelly, either Neo. Similis or Lamp. Meleagris. I was thinking of growing some Mangroves in there too, to see how the fish would interact. Provided enough shells and rock work it should be a very active tank!
I know this doesn't happen normally but could you just keep one Tropheus on it's own with some Synodontis?...Just curious to know if it's possible or not out of interest
1 single Tropheus and a bunch of cat fish from lake Tanganyika I don’t think would harm anything if you had too until you can build the colony back up
Thanks for the reply, it's much appreciated
Currently running a 90 gallon Tanganyika/West African community tank.
5 x cyprichromis leptosomas. (Tanganyika)
2 x neolamprologus tretocephalus. (Tanganyika)
2 x neolamprologus leleupi. (Tanganyika)
1 x altolamprologus calvus. (Tanganyika)
3 x steatocranus tinanti (West African)
2 x anomalochromis thomasi (West African)
Started with West Africans, then really got into Tanyganyikans. They seem to all get along great, besides the larger neolamprologus tretocephalus being pretty territorial. I keep the PH around 8.0.
Have you read the article 'The Petrochromis Myth' by Leigh Kissane? If not I'd highly recommend it. First hand experience beats all secondhand gossip in the world.
I have 2 very close friends that have kept Petros
Great vid Dude! Love the Tangs. #Tangsquad
How about a 65gallon tank for tropheus?
I always envisioned a trophy/mbuna tank due to the similarities in behavior and feeding requirements.
You are the best
Great work!!! Awesome video!!
Great information
What was your fav part
Jay Wilson all the video. What’s the name of that book? Thanks
i got a tank full of mbuna and trophies and its goin just fine .
i have just filled a 150 and would like to over stalk it with tang. cichlids what would you recommend for a community tank
Is a 120 gal 48x24x24 a good size aquarium for tropheus if so how many can I keep.
It’s not bad. Depends on the size. I would start with 25ish young and just let them figure it out. But that’s it no more adding
How are you getting air bubbles to disperse from your outflows? Trying to add a little more aeration/circulation in my 300 gallon...
Alan Wilson dropping the water slightly and half of the nozzle is in water and the other half is out
@@Jaywil07 Cool, I'll try it out...thank you!
Can you do brichardi in 15 gallon or 20 long?
I wouldn't recommend it in a 15 gallon. I tried it in a 16 gallon and it didn't work out very well.
How many shell dwellers can I put in a 20 gallon long?
What are your thoughts about a 55’ gal long tank with 11 Tropheus duboisi? Tank to small and need more fish? Or should be ok?
How big are the Tropheus?
They are .75 - 1” long.
It’s their 3rd day on the new tank and 1 just died that leaves 10 left. Is the number good for a colony if everyone makes it to maturity?
lynoj777 you need like 20-25
What's your opinion in keeping a tropheus colony with some mbuna?
Diet, ph, temperature and aggression is pretty much the same.
No
2 different lakes I’m not a fan
@@Jaywil07 Yeah, neither am I.
Thanks have always been curious about Tropheus ever since I saw them on the Aquarium coop channel a while back.
Excellent job ! Good video.
Hey Jay
How many clavus can I put in a 125 gallon 6 foot tank, at what ratio?
I just got 16 ilangi and 11 mupulungu fry in the mail today. I just fell in love with goby's as well. I hear you can become attached to them.
They are fantastic
@@Jaywil07 I hope to find some here in Chicago. Wish me luck
Great info!!
Thanks Corey!
Hi there, I have a Tanganyikan community tank and would like to get some tropheus once I upgrade and add to my existing colony of fish. I've already sourced where to get Tropheus moorii moliro.
The community currently consists of a single 5 bar cichlid, some leleupi, some masked julies, a colony of shell dwellers (neolamprologus brevis) and a group of synodontis Petricola.
I'm going to be setting up a 6ft - 125gal tank with lots of large and small rocks. I would also like to create one of those high rock hides for the tropheus near the top of the tank. I know they need an algae based diet.
I'm mostly only worried about the shellies being too small with the tropheus but they hold there own against everything else and are kind of taking over haha. I did find a few tanks on some forums that had multis but those are smaller than the shell dwellers I already have.
Do you think this will work?
Thanks.
I think your going to have a problem with troph unless you get quite a few of them in the tank.
They are straight jerks lol
@@Jaywil07 I plan on getting around 15-20 to start off. How does that sound?
Thanks for getting back to me so soon!
Got to get as many as you plan to have for the best possible outcome
Malawi and mbuna will always be my favorite.
i have a tall 60 gal tank (4'x2'x13") with 24 tropheus 1/2 are bemba n red miliro - do you think i could added more tropheus ?
Tim Keleher I think you are good
Awsome vid. Just set up a 120 what stock would you recommend of the genus? Long time fish keeper of central American everything aggressive. Want to switch things up a bit.
Look at featherins or do a Tropheus and watch them grow. If not a Calvin group is sweet. And frontosa aren’t to shabby
Thanks for the info, I can see how these cichlids are going to be a joy to keep! I think Im going to add a 50 gal also to my fish room. What would you recommend stocking this size tank?
What about a goldfish? (Sorry 😏) I have a friend who went out with a guy who was into having fish, for about 6 months. He spent a ridiculous amount on a fish tank etc that took up a whole wall in her living room. She ended up loving that tank and fish. She missed them more than him when they broke up. I'm sure she'd love your channel (as long as she doesn't see I wrote about her!😳)
Dam good vid. What do you think about compressiceps with shell dwellers
Love them!
@@Jaywil07 so they are compatible
I have been looking for some advice on Tanganyika fish recently and just happened to come across this video! I am setting up a new tank (150cm in length, 50cm deep and 65cm in height? My preference goes out to a community type tank to enjoy all different kind of species of the lake. I love shelldwellers, leleupi's, calvus but also Petrochromis.... could you please give me some advice on what can, and can not be kept together in such a tank?
Rick you should not mix Petros with that style of tank.
The rest is great. Nice rock work and bam
@@Jaywil07 Thanks for your quick reply Jay! What else can be mixed with Shelldwellers, leleupi and calvus that swims around more in the open? Or what do you rec. if I really want to keep petro's?
Cheers mate!
Maybe dardenni but they get big.
Hi thank you for this video!I need help with my setup if you can give me advice it would be great.... in my aquarium I have 3 daffodils/brichardi (there were 5 of them, 2 were killed due to aggression), 4 leleupi cichlids, 1 calvus, 6 multifaciatus shell dwellers. The aggressiveness of daffodil cichlids towards other fish in the aquarium is constant, the aquarium is angular 190 liters with a lot of rocks and caves ... The fish are about 5 cm large, i got them 20days ago so i don't know so much about them. Will daffodils be always like this, should i remove them from aquarium back to the shop? Thank you
I have a tanganyika aquarium cor over 20 years now and compete in the Dutch championships
Oooooor you may have a 4 meter tank, you could have emperor and frontosa community tank just like my friend....
I made the switch to saltwater but maybe someday Jay I will try these out.
What would you put in a 612 liter (158,503 gallon) tank? 170 x 60 x 60cm. Colourfull would be good.
What is it you are looking for?
@@Jaywil07 I'd like Frontosa, but don't really know if A: The tank is big enough. and B: What can I keep with them that they're not going to eat if I keep them long enough for the to get big? I also like Leleupi, Brichardi and Compressiseps. Also shell dwellers..... in fact I love them all.
John Aspinall lets maybe think community of rock dwelling and shell dwelling and forget the frontosa
@@Jaywil07 I was afraid you'd say that ;)
So for instance a colony of Brichardi and a colony of shell dwellers, anything I could put in to utilise the upper reaches of the aquarium? Shell dwellers probably wouldn't be left with much room if the Brichardi's took off?
Great video jay
Can I put tropheus in a 3-foot 65 gallon tank and if so how many
You can it may be a little tight but about 15
right on Jay
Awesome person. My new favorite
Thank you so much
Wait till u keep malawi shell dwellers, they are beutiful full of personality and they trade shells with each other. Every shell dweller personality u can find with malawi shell dwellers.
I gotta learn my fish
Hello and greatings from Germany ! In what kind of Workshop are you Walking ? Is it an Tank Building shop ? Great Video and correct Information.
It is a artificial rock building factory as well as an aquarium building shop
I got a 120 with 28 tropheus and 30 Blue Dolphins any doing fine but at first I got 13 of them and da wiped each other out but I didn't give up it was a little pricey though it's like 30 bucks a piece for the tropheus
2 different lakes and food needs. I would be very careful.
It's been over a year and da r breeding n I feed them New Life Spectrum scared to feed him something else because I had some of them catch bloat once and another tank I got
Beautifully made video
Holla😂😂😂
HOLLA!
@@Jaywil07 nothing but ❤️❤️❤️
I really waNt shellies
Really but I am at my tank limit for now maybe in a year or so.
Northfins food
I have some I got with my. Guppies they seem to really like it
Cool video! Just started a colony of F1 Blue Zaire Mikula Frontosa (Giberosa). 15 2" growouts. Needed enough to get a good mix of males and females then when they get big enough to sex (in like 12yrs LOL) I'll reduce the colony to a good mix of males and females.
I think you should learn about other species than Tropheini species. There are Cyps, Featherfins and Sandsifters too other than these. I wouldn't keep Trops after Malawi mbuna, their body shape and behaviour are too similar.
Kyoga are my favorite!
Mbuna
Nice
If you had a fish look alike you would be tropheus
This guy
I'm all about Team Tang.
Shellies only for my space
If you are looking for "the best" place to buy Tangynika fish check out #southeastcichlids #davesrarefish .com .com.....✌️☮️🐟 Good vibes your way Jay!!!!
Tropheus? Really? Bleh. I'm all about the Tanganyika nano reef. As my babies grow, I'll move them into a bigger tank. Presently everybody's 1 and 1/2 to 3 in.
You have schooled us again.
Shell dwellers all the way for me.
👎👎👎👎 blablabla
I need more moliro red!